John Kerry & Xi Jinping. U.S. Department of State from United States, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

New China US Climate Pact: A US Technology Giveaway

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A few days ago, China’s CCP Backed Global Times jeered at President Biden’s COP26 powerlessness, predicting more “kneeling” in the future. But today China is all smiles, after John Kerry has agreed to “share” US technology knowhow, to fight the “existential crisis” of climate change.

‘Existential crisis’: United States and China stun COP26 with joint climate change pact

By Nick O’Malley and Bevan Shields

Updated November 11, 2021 — 6.03am

Glasgow: China and the United States have made a shock joint statement at the Glasgow climate talks, declaring climate change to be an existential crisis demanding co-operation between the superpowers.

Addressing a press conference at the COP26 summit, Chinese climate envoy Xie Zhenhua unveiled a joint declaration designed to “enhance climate action in the 2020s” and said the two nations were determined to tackle global warming with “concrete and pragmatic” co-operation.

“Co-operation is the only choice for both China and the United States,” Xie told reporters via a translator.

“By working together, our two countries can achieve many important things that are beneficial not only to our two countries, but to the world as a whole. As two major powers in the world, China and the US shoulders special international responsibilities and obligations.

“We need to think big and feel responsible. We need to work … hard to promote world peace and development. We need to actively address climate change through co-operation, bringing benefits to both our two peoples and peoples around the world.”

Xie said Beijing and Washington would work together on emissions reductions, and share technology and expertise on clean energy, decarbonisation and electrification to achieve the goals of the Paris Agreement.

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/existential-crisis-united-states-and-china-stun-cop26-with-joint-climate-change-pact-20211111-p597wq.html

In 2020, according to The Guardian, the FBI identified Chinese technology theft as the biggest law enforcement threat to the USA.

Now, thanks to John Kerry, China no longer needs to steal anything, because Kerry has offered to give the technology away.

All Chinese agents need to do, if they see a piece of US exceptionalism they want to grab, is get on the phone to Kerry, and demand Kerry include whatever technology or knowhow China wants in the new climate technology sharing agreement.

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Ted
November 10, 2021 2:03 pm

Between this and the Iran deal, is their really any question that Kerry intentionally gives aid and comfort to countries that oppose the U.S.?

Scissor
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 3:12 pm

No and what is that called again?

H.R.
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2021 6:13 pm

Be sure to hit Anthony’s tip jar, then.

And be sure to save some of that money for a run for office. Politics is where the real money is. Maybe someday, you too can get your “10% for the big guy”.

(It’s my new calling. Career counselor to spam bots.)

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  H.R.
November 10, 2021 10:40 pm

Politics is where the real money is.

Hubbard said that the real money was in inventing your own religion. He proved it too.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2021 7:17 pm

It starts with “T” and rhymes with Reason

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Bryan A
November 10, 2021 8:58 pm

Lurch isn’t the only one in the current admin. The bucks stop with Brandon.

Duker
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
November 10, 2021 10:48 pm

Trump’s deal with North Korea had echoes of Munich
“There’s no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea” was his tweet (not a scrap of paper this time)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 6:24 am

Delusional.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 8:15 am

“There’s no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea”.
And as long as Trump, or someone like him, was POTUS, that was true. But with Brandon, not so much. 🙁

Duker
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 11, 2021 11:41 am

No. he met with Kim and had an agreement.!
Trump also had a red line which Kim immediately crossed

niceguy
Reply to  Duker
November 14, 2021 7:53 pm

Before Trump, we saw regular firing of rockets over Japan.
After, not so much.

Also Kim agree to dismantle a nuclear testing site (which was probably already unusable, I know) and a rocket test site.

Say what you want, but that wasn’t insignificant.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2021 7:18 pm

SPAM ALERT

H.R.
Reply to  Bryan A
November 11, 2021 3:30 am

Not exactly, Bryan.

Out of the kindness of their hearts, the mods here are leaving it up in case griff, Loydo, Simon, et al, are considering a career change.
😜

Bryan A
Reply to  H.R.
November 11, 2021 6:32 am

How very kind of the MODS to consider their (Griff Loydo Simon) betterment
😉

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  H.R.
November 11, 2021 7:19 am

Then again, whose to say that “Rio” is not just another pen name that griff, Loydo, Simon, or any other in the “et al”, has adopted.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2021 11:15 pm

I am guessing that it is a single word that starts with “T”

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Scissor
November 11, 2021 7:15 am

Rio,

Just maybe, with all your claimed easy earnings, you can buy yourself a book on grammar that enables you to see how sophomoric it is to post “more than $90 to $100 per hour” instead of just “more than $90 per hour” or just “more than $100 per hour”.

Now, let’s talk about this bridge I need to offload . . .

n.n
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 4:19 pm

This, the Iran deal, premature evacuation, people… persons left behind, and billions of dollars in state-of-the-art military “housewarming gifts”. A steady march forward with catastrophic effect.

Duker
Reply to  n.n
November 10, 2021 10:52 pm

Premature evacuation ? What planet are you on. It was well after the deadline set by Trump ,who ripped into him for the delays. Trump even fired his defense secretary as he was dragging the chain.
One Trump’s surrender was signed in Doha the Teleban were allies not enemies, and only action was taken against Isis-k and Al queda, with TB help

Graemethecat
Reply to  Duker
November 10, 2021 11:01 pm

Trump would never have allowed Bagram Airbase to be abandoned as it was by Biden.

Duker
Reply to  Graemethecat
November 10, 2021 11:19 pm

yes it was . His agreement was total withdrawal from all bases including bases held by US allies like Germany and UK.
Like I said Esper was fired by Trump for dragging the chain on getting out ,and before election Trump was talking troops home by Xmas. Thats not a stay program
The Taleban were no longer ‘the enemy’

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  Duker
November 10, 2021 11:31 pm

Learn to spell, dimwit ESL troll.

Duker
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
November 11, 2021 11:42 am

Its in the Trump agreement, all bases by the deadline

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 6:27 am

Trump’s plan required that the Taliban meet certain conditions before Trump would pull out of Afghanistan.

The Taliban never met those conditions, so if Trump were in office, we would still be in Afghanistan until the Taliban met the requirements.

Joe Biden’s Afghanistan plan was to pull out unconditionally, and damn the consequences.

Duker
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 11:45 am

You havent read it. US wasnt bound to stay at all
It was the Kabul government who didnt negotiate further but the withdrawal wasnt dependent on them either.

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 7:49 am

Trump called for a gradual withdrawal. It was Biden who turned that into an overnight evacuation.

Duker
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 11:43 am

Trumps end date was back in May . It was gradual withdrawal from Feb last year and they were down from 12K troops to 3K by inauguration day

bonbon
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 4:43 am

Exactly, and the withdrawal took 20 years, hardly rushed…

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 7:48 am

The delusion is strong with this one.
It was months before the deadline set by Trump. The Trump deal also had milestones that the Afghan government had to meet before troop levels were drawn down. All of those were abandoned by your hero Biden.

Duker
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 11:47 am

Trumps deadline was May , it passed and Trump even publically called out Biden for going past it

No milestones for Kabul government to meet. They didnt negotiate with Taleban at all in the year they had since agreement signed before Trump left office.

Richard Page
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 4:28 pm

I’m not sure about the kneeling, but there looks to be a certain amount of bending over being done on the USA’s behalf by Kerry.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
November 11, 2021 6:31 am

Kerry is eager to please the enemies of the United States.

He thinks that’s the way to deal with dictators. That’s the way Joe Biden looks at things, too.

We see what that kind of delusional thinking has gotten us in the past: The debacle in South Vietnam, the debacle in Iraq and the debacle in Afghanistan. And Joe Biden and John Kerry were involved in all of them and that’s one reason for how they turned out so badly.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 7:51 am

Progressives actually believe that the only reason why the bad people of the planet misbehave, is because the US isn’t giving them enough free stuff.
They believe the same thing about our local thugs and criminals.

Dave
Reply to  Richard Page
November 11, 2021 2:18 pm

BOHICA…thanks, Joe and Bob. Really appreciate the job you’re doing.

Derg
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 6:32 pm

Agree. He is a Horse face.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Derg
November 10, 2021 9:12 pm

G’Day Derg,

Horse face?

Wrong end of the horse.

(I did a ‘stand-alone’ comment earlier – it’s way down the line.)

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BobM
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 8:01 pm

You forgot North Vietnam.

Duker
Reply to  BobM
November 10, 2021 11:22 pm

That was Nixon who did the deal with the North to withdraw. and it was his replacement Ford who was around for the fall of Saigon

bonbon
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 4:44 am

Maybe Nixon was deep sixed for ending an endless war? Echoes of Trump, JFK?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 7:01 am

Nixon was deep-sixed because he broke the law and got caught doing it.

Of course, what Nixon did pales in comparison to the attacks on Democracy perpetrated by the radical Democrats in later years.

All Nixon did was try to put a bug in the Democrat headquarters, and then got caught lying about the failed attempt. That wouldn’t even warrant a slap on the wrist if Nixon were a Democrat.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 7:53 am

What Nixon did pales in comparison to what Kennedy and Johnson had done. But of course, they were Democrats so the media had no interest in those stories.

Duker
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 11:48 am

Clinton got impeached remember , for lying about an affair

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 6:51 am

Nixon did the Paris Peace Agreement.

The Paris Peace Agreement was meant to keep South Vietnam free.

You imply this was a bad thing on Nixon’s part.

The Paris Peace Agreement, signed by both South and North Vietnam and the United States had a provision in it requiring the United States to come to the defense of South Vietnam if North Vietnam broke the Paris Peace Agreement.

Btw, Kerry tried to undermine the U.S. in Paris by meeting with the North Vietnamese even though he had no official position in the U.S. govenrment, he was just a Vietnam veteran against the war. A traitor to his nation, in other words.

With the implementation of the Paris Peace Agreement, the U.S. withdrew all its combat forces from South Vietnam in October of 1973. The only Americans left in South Vietnam were a handful of advisors, and the Marine guards at the U.S. embassy.

In 1975, the North Vietnamese again invaded South Vietnam. Unfortunately for South Vietnam, Joe Biden and other leftwing anti-war politicians in Congress told South Vietnam to go to hell, that the U.S. was not going to come help them. This, of course, caused the South Vietnamese military to lose heart, and instead of fighting, they ran way just like what happened in Afghanistan.

The appeaser Joe Biden, starting with South Vietnam, has literally ruined the lives of millions of people because of his appeaser outlook on the world. Biden has no empathy for these millions of people he has harmed with his delusional thinking.

And Duker wants to pretend that President Ford was in charge of this debacle, but all you have to do is look at how this took place to see who had the real power in Washington DC during this period. Previous to the North Vietnamese invading, the U.S. Congress, dominated by anti-war Democrats, cut $700 million from the South Vietnamese defense budget. A devastating cut.

President Ford vetoed this legislation, but the U.S. House and Senate overrode his veto because the Democrats had full control of both Houses.

So who had the power, Ford or the Leftwing Appeaser Congress? The answer is obvious.

Joe Biden and the Leftwing appeasers in Congress sold South Vietnam down the river.

And now Biden has done the same thing in Afghanistan. For the same reason: He is a dangerous, delusional person who has no business running anything concerning the United States.

Duker
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 11:54 am

It was $800 mill approved and $300 mill extra requested

MarkW
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 7:52 am

As usual, you neglect to include the actions of your Democrats who refused to supply the support to S. Vietnam that the peace accords called for.
Ford had no choice but to standby as congress had tied his hands.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 8:36 am

Meanwhile, as the US cut all aid to the South, the Russians supplied massive military aid to the North. The North came in with Russian tanks, while the South didn’t even have enough ammunition to fire back.
And John Kerry was a major factor in our abandoning the South, between his encouraging the North to keep fighting, while telling the US public that the US military was engaged in massive war crimes:

“They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do. They told the stories of times that they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in the fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.”

All lies, mostly told by traitors who had never even been in the US military. Read Kerry’s whole abominable statement at:

John Kerry – Statement 1971 before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Vietnam (transcript and audio) (americanrhetoric.com)

Duker
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 11, 2021 11:56 am

All aid to south wasnt cut.
‘Based on Pentagon‐supplied figures, Representative Les Aspin, Democrat of Wisconsin, has. estimated that Washington has provided South Vietnam with $3.7‐billion in all forms of aid since the cease‐fire of January, 1973
That was said in Jan 75.

Duker
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 10:45 pm

Heard of the Taleban…. A terrorist entity that was actually fighting against US forces.
Trump and Pompeo negotiated the Doha surrender for them

Then there was the deals with Kim jong-un and Xi you have forgotten about

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Duker
November 10, 2021 11:27 pm

You sound a bit desperate in your attempts to stretch what happened to fit your narrative. The problem with Afghanistan was of a practical nature. It occurred when Biden implemented the withdrawal (read “ran away”). The deal with Xi? Huh, Trump was engaging in a trade war that was hurting China. As for Kim Jong-Un, Trump made progress towards an end to hostilities between the Koreas and a denuclearisation of the peninsula. Unfortunately, his presidency ended and he was not able to continue towards the sorts of peace settlements between Israel and more than one Arab state that his government was able to finalise in the four year term.

bonbon
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
November 11, 2021 4:47 am

The problem of Afghanistan was practically of a $3 trillion nature. Nothing to show except of course arms sales….

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 7:55 am

In your mind, if I can use the term that loosely. Anyone who opposes the US or Britain is a good guy and can’t do any wrong.

Duker
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
November 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Trumps withdrawal plan was 80% complete when he left office – down from 12k troops to 3K.
His plan was total withdrawal by May 2021. Total.

Trump had a agreement with Kim that was as worthless a scrap of paper as Munich and he said it his tweet

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 7:05 am

“Trump and Pompeo negotiated the Doha surrender for them”

Completely false.

“Then there was the deals with Kim jong-un and Xi you have forgotten about”

You don’t know what you are talking about.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 7:56 am

Duker is still convinced that questioning the validity of a stolen election is proof of treason.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 8:38 am

The propaganda is strong with this one…..

Duker
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 11, 2021 12:02 pm

It was questioned all the way to supreme court.
It was questioned with recounts
All said the same thing Biden won

Even the crazy privately run recent recount in Arizona’s biggest county found that Biden won.

Those that stormed the capitol , and are convicted, are doing some serious time for their ‘questioning’ , because it was to otherthrow the government.

Duker
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 7:02 pm

Pictures of ‘Mullah’ Mike and his Taleban signatories at Doha

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MarkW
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 7:54 am

It really is amazing how Duker actually believes he can rewrite history.

Patrick healy
Reply to  Ted
November 10, 2021 11:10 pm

Yes all the while China imports millions of barrels of Iranian oil – at a discount.
Mind you there is the small matter of 10% for the “big guy”

bonbon
Reply to  Patrick healy
November 11, 2021 4:48 am

A $400 billion trade deal of oil for industry. US on the loosing side yet again….

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ted
November 11, 2021 6:21 am

“is their really any question”

Not in my mind.

Jay
Reply to  Ted
November 12, 2021 11:45 am

Kerry has never been known to be the brightest bulb in the drawer. What he doesn’t understand is he’s being played. China is building coal fired power plants to get their people to a basic level of energy survival all the while smiling at Kerry and faking interest in his climate BS. By faking negotiations China puts off to tomorrow doing anything Kerry wants them to do today. Watch what happens. China will stall and stall and stall some more all the while using climate change mitigation as leverage and still building coal power plants. Does this look like the Iran situation only with a different bargaining chip? China’s goal is to get its people hooked up to a real energy source, not wind mills and solar panels. You eco-freaks need to get this into your heads…China does not care about green energy, what the IPCC thinks, COP26 or how many Polar Bears there are. They will operate in their own best interest and that will be to build anything that supplies them with RELIABLE energy. You eco-freaks need to wake up. The West can’t even agree on how to cut back CO2 emissions and that’s what makes feel good climate parties like COP26 and John Kerry’s hot air a waste of time.

markl
November 10, 2021 2:07 pm

Like what kind of “knowhow” could the US possibly share? I know, how about China sending back all the manufacturing jobs and products it took from the US already in the name of Globalization? That should help China reduce its’ reliance on fossil fuels.

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  markl
November 10, 2021 2:40 pm

A stroke of a genius. Let’s share with China the best ways to ruin all industries.

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Ozonebust
Reply to  markl
November 10, 2021 2:56 pm

markl

“how about China sending back all the manufacturing jobs and products it took from the US already”

China did not take any jobs away from the USA.

Profit focused US companies pursued lower labor cost manufactured goods from China to enhance profits. They passed on manufacturing skills and production volumes that made China Great Again.

Now the Government doing it with Kerry’s latest stroke of genius.

Posa
Reply to  Ozonebust
November 10, 2021 4:52 pm

Don’t waste your breath on MAGA losers who blame everything wrong with the US economy on someone else except Wall Street capitalists and multi-national corporate predators.

Derg
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 6:33 pm

No kidding that Pfizer is predator.

Duker
Reply to  Derg
November 10, 2021 10:53 pm

They don’t sell Pfizer at Walmart
Every thing else in the store is globalised to China

Philip Rose
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 4:01 am

And don’t worry about your politicians selling your country down the river for personal profit and self-aggrandisement. Yup?

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Philip Rose
November 11, 2021 8:44 am

Along with big profits for crony capitalists (sic), under the table payments to US Universities and Congress critters, and yes, 10% for the Big Guy.

Dennis
Reply to  Ozonebust
November 10, 2021 5:42 pm

Research the United Nations Lima Protocol/Agreement of 1975 signed by many member nations agreeing to the gradual transfer of manufacturing industry to developing nations such as China.

Check UN Agenda 21 (now Agenda 30 – 2030) Sustainability and all of the many impositions effectively stopping member nations from exploiting natural advantages like building new dams, logging, mining and more by creation of UN registered National Parks (most were State forests and lands in Australia) where any commercial activities are banned. But Agenda 21 extends to many other areas of economic activity.

The Inevitability of Gradualness is a socialist Fabian Society saying and the UN globalists are doing exactly that.

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  Ozonebust
November 11, 2021 2:25 am

And let’s note that management in the West were able to avoid arguments with unions and spend more quality time on the golf course.

The new Xi – Kerry deal is like that, to the Nth degree.

Xi gets to scrape the barrel of what remains of Western technological expertise, Xi gets to send back cheap Chinese crap to stuff the shelves in Walmart, burn as much coal as he likes for as long as he likes and provide all the bugs and virions he can produce.

And then there’s that 10%…

Posa
Reply to  markl
November 10, 2021 4:50 pm

how about China sending back all the manufacturing jobs and products it took from the US already in the name of Globalization

You’ll have to ask the capitalists on Wall Street who made trillions in wage arbitrage by shipping off US industry overseas for the past 40 years.

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Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 5:28 pm

You might also want to have a discussion with the Big Government and Big Union apparatchiks that imposed ruinous regulations and wages on manufacturing in the United States. While socking a fair chunk of those trillions into their own offshore accounts.

Dennis
Reply to  writing observer
November 10, 2021 5:43 pm

Also in Australia, and other countries.

Posa
Reply to  writing observer
November 10, 2021 10:01 pm

Yeah. Just what we need: Cockroach Capitalism. Bring back child labor. Indentured servants. Tainted pharma medicines, pustulous meat and adulterated food products along with defective vehicles that burst into flames.

Bryan A
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 10:59 pm

While you’re at it, don’t forget to Rape the Fields and Pillage the Women

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bryan A
November 11, 2021 11:36 am

Its “Rape the Cows and Kill the Women.”

MarkW
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 7:59 am

Yet another unthinking socialist who actually believes the propaganda that has been force fed him.
It was capitalism that got rid of child labor. Children had been working since the dawn of time. It was the prosperity created by capitalism that made families wealthy enough that children no longer had to work.
Ditto indentured servants, which was never the evil that most socialists want to believe.
As to the rest of your wish list, those were either the result of government mandates and for the most part were eliminated as a result of improvements brought about by capitalism.

Posa
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 9:15 am

No. It was agitation by labor unions that eliminated child labor.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 8:46 am

What does Tesla have to do with it?

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 12, 2021 10:19 am

a response to Posa “defective vehicles that burst into flames”

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  writing observer
November 11, 2021 2:40 am

“ruinous regulations and wages on manufacturing”

Don’t forget the educational/industrial complex where salaries and benefits are far above what they’d be without powerful unions.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 11, 2021 11:48 am

Unions barely exist outside government, including education. In government, the aims of politicians, bureaucrats (management) and labor are perfectly aligned. They all want government to grow at the taxpayers expense: More political power (10% to the Big Guy), larger bureaucracy to manage (power and money) and lifetime employment with ever-increasing pay and benefits. Government “collective bargaining” is a joke!

MarkW
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 7:33 pm

the people you need to focus your anger on are the consumers who demand affordable products. How evil of them.

Posa
Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2021 10:03 pm

No Einstein. Products were not off-shored for the sake of consumers… they were off-shored so multi-nationals could pocket the difference in wages between the US labor force and Third World serfs.

MarkW
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 8:01 am

I know you are actually stupid enough to believe that, but it isn’t true.
Just look at the profit margins of the companies involved.

Posa
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 9:16 am

You mean Apple?

bonbon
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 4:53 am

People demand well paid demanding JOBS – and I don’t mean burger flipping…
Production, productivity do not figure in Hayek’s fantasy consumer world.

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 8:01 am

People can demand whatever they want, but if their labor isn’t worth what they demand, then they will be unemployed, and deservedly so.

J Mac
November 10, 2021 2:07 pm

We are already ‘sharing’ technology with the communist Chinese. It’s called technology theft and the Chinese are masters of it. China will benefit exclusively from any further open ‘technology sharing’, as it gives them access to technology they haven’t stolen yet.

Only John Kerry and Joe Biden are stupid enough to agree to this!

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Posa
Reply to  J Mac
November 10, 2021 4:54 pm

Typical American Loser whiners. China is leading the way on cutting edge industries such as 5G hardware and heavy-duty apps, mag-lev transport, quantum communications, hyper-sonic weapons etc where the US isn’t even in the game.

Derg
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 6:35 pm

Wait until they have to “fight” global warming…I mean climate change…oops climate extinction.

Posa
Reply to  Derg
November 10, 2021 10:06 pm

The Chinese just announced a few days ago they’re building 150 nuclear plants. Since China has large uranium reserves they can have energy independence without fossil fuels. That’s a smart move that lots of people in the US endorse… not because of Climate Change hysteria, but because nuclear is cleaner than coal all around.

Philip Rose
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 4:24 am

Ask the folks in Chernobyl and Fukashime; (3mile Island?). A PRC with so many reactors is truly frightening, with their safety records elsewhere. Their accident rates are truly terrifying, not to mention now 2 cases of deadly virus releases; sars 1 & 2.

Posa
Reply to  Philip Rose
November 11, 2021 9:20 am

Nuclear power is extremely safe but unforgiving of cut corners and arse hattery. Chernobyl wasn’t a commercial reactor ; the meltdown occurred in the midst of an unauthorized jackass experiment. Fukushima occurred because the owners didn’t want to invest in required safety measures in an aging plant. No other modern reactors on the coast were at all affected by the tsunami that affected Fukushima.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 8:59 am

The CCP propaganda is strong with this one….

Posa
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 11, 2021 9:20 am

Too bad you can’t refute a word that was posted. Lame.

Derg
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 2:59 pm

I believe NOTHING in the news about CCP

Bryan A
Reply to  Posa
November 12, 2021 6:58 am

Nuclear is also RELIABLE 24/7/365 and high density energy.
2,200 MW on 12 acres for Nuclear vs 2200 MW on 76 square kilometers for solar that has a capacity factor slightly better than 30% in the summer and <20% in the winter (depending on latitude)
For Topaz Solar Farm the difference is about 60,000MWh in December vs about 130,000MWh in June, July, Aug
And ZERO production from 5pm to 8am. Solar is a joke.

Bryan A
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 7:22 pm

Typical Communist Pig
See Posa, it’s really easy to call names and interject nothing useful into a conversation, you seem to be a master at it

Last edited 6 months ago by Bryan A
Posa
Reply to  Bryan A
November 10, 2021 10:08 pm

You’re a little thick Bryan.

China is leading the way on cutting edge industries such as 5G hardware and heavy-duty apps, mag-lev transport, quantum communications, hyper-sonic weapons etc where the US isn’t even in the game.

That’s a pretty strong interjection. What’s your response?

Bryan A
Reply to  Posa
November 10, 2021 11:06 pm

China is leading the way on Stolen Technologies and cheap knockoff products that last 1/10 as long and function 25% of the time and don’t live up to promises
Like this

Or this

Posa
Reply to  Bryan A
November 11, 2021 9:23 am

Hey Einstein: How can China steal technologies mentioned above where the US makes no such products? (IE mag-lev; 5G hardware; hypersonics etc)… Talk about brain dead.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 11:52 am

Technology is different from manufacturing.

Bryan A
Reply to  Posa
November 12, 2021 12:06 pm

Well Goober, let me inform you that the world contains 205 more nations than just the U.S. and China. AND both China and Iran want U.S. tech, FREE, to adhere to the Paris Agreement
Not Australia Tech
Not U.K. Tech
Not German Tech
Not Japanese Tech
U.S.Tech

MarkW
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 8:02 am

So they are quick at deploying stolen technology.
How wonderful for them.

Oriel Kolnai
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 2:53 am

That’s right! Losers! And China is tackling climate change too! With massive coal production and a transcontinental railway line to deliver it! Goody!

China Tackles Climate Change:  
http://newtube.app/user/RAOB/kf3DIEm&nbsp;

Posa
Reply to  Oriel Kolnai
November 11, 2021 9:25 am

Yup. China is building 400 more coal plants. They’ll be finished by 2026. Meanwhile they’re building 150 nuclear plants… which are green (not that I care about CO2 emissions).

So technically they’re living up to the Kerry Agreement. They’re smart; the US/ West is dumb.

Philip Rose
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 4:15 am

Typical CCP apologist!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Posa
November 11, 2021 7:15 am

I read just yesterday where the U.S. is developing a hypersonic missile killer.

I think the U.S. may be getting ready to assign a few of their older missile defense cruisers to Guam to provide additional air defenses in the region.

The Chicoms are good thieves, I’ll give you that.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 8:06 am

I’ve been reading a mangas from various Asian countries.
One thing I’ve noticed is that Chinese mangas are unique in that every single one of them assumes that government is corrupt and that the strong are a law unto themselves and can do whatever they want, up to and including openly murdering those who displease them.

Such assumptions are occasionally seen in mangas from other countries, but in Chinese mangas it is a universal theme. Something like this does not become this universal, unless it is something that the vast majority of Chinese experience as part of their daily lives.

Posa
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 9:29 am

Yeah. Just like Americans who also think their government is owned and run by mega-crooks and mass murderers

Posa
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 9:28 am

The US is “developing” anti-hypersonics the way the “developed” the F-35… an bottomless MIC pork barrel. What suckers Americans are.

Tom Halla
November 10, 2021 2:11 pm

I do not know whether Gore or Kerry would have been worse as President, but Lurch is making a good case for himself as worst.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 11, 2021 7:18 am

Either one would have been very bad for the United States. Although, I’m not sure either one would be as bad as Joe Biden has turned out to be.

November 10, 2021 2:24 pm

Come into my parlour said the spider to the fly.

Bob
November 10, 2021 2:25 pm

You notice Xie didn’t say anything about China reducing their carbon footprint. He spoke of cooperation and sharing and working together. I think what Xie was saying is that China could use more American coal.

Scissor
Reply to  Bob
November 10, 2021 3:16 pm

He said, xie xie.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bob
November 11, 2021 7:20 am

I think what Xie was saying was for the United States to continue to destroy its economy trying to regulate the Earth’s temperature, and the Chicoms will assist us in that, in any way they can.

ResourceGuy
November 10, 2021 2:26 pm

You mean they have identified something that they did not already take, like the data breach at NASA. That in itself is news. Or is this the official handover of things already stolen?

ResourceGuy
November 10, 2021 2:29 pm

Give them the plans for Solyndra and Ivanpah and Crescent Dunes. Then follow that up with the tech to lose large amounts of money for biofuels from trees. Obama and DoE have mastered those money losing technologies.

M Courtney
Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 10, 2021 3:08 pm

We will still have a lead in the social sciences.
China hasn’t stolen those.
Can’t think why.

Chaswarnertoo
November 10, 2021 2:29 pm

Lurch is a moron.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
November 11, 2021 7:24 am

Lurch is a traitor to his country. Consistently.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 9:07 am

Moron would be bad enough, sadly he isn’t a moron. He is a long term, time after time, traitor. Vietnam, Iran, and now China are only some of the highlights of his traitorist career.

Pflashgordon
November 10, 2021 2:29 pm

In a little over a year, China just killed more Americans than died in all of WWII. So apparently Brandon and his leftist crew believe that China should be awarded for their U.S. population control efforts.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Pflashgordon
November 11, 2021 7:26 am

That’s the way appeasers deal with the Bad Guys.

Appeasers are afraid of the Bad Guys, and the last thing they want is confrontation with people who might actually physically harm them, so to solve their problem, they pretent the Bad Guys are not Bad Guys, but just like regular folks. Then they don’t have to confront them.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 9:08 am

Ah, but it’s so much sweeter when you are being bribed to do it.

Mr.
November 10, 2021 2:30 pm

Can anyone (except John Kerry) ever imagine someone like, say Elon Musk ever agreeing to just hand over his technology to the CCP?

The CCP must have chortled long and hard when they learned that Kerry was to be the “deal-maker” on all things climate for the USA.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mr.
November 11, 2021 7:28 am

I imagine the CCP is jumping for joy at the stupidity of American Democrats.

Like taking candy from a baby, the Chicoms say.

ResourceGuy
November 10, 2021 2:36 pm

You mean like autonomous trucks for coal mines? Or maybe the technology of regulations for slowing pipeline and industrial plant permits.

MarkW
November 10, 2021 2:39 pm

I wonder how much Biden was paid for this deal?

Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2021 5:30 pm

10% for the Big Guy. Maybe more from Kerry’s cut – he isn’t family like Hunter, after all.

Dennis
Reply to  writing observer
November 10, 2021 5:45 pm

Biden
Laptop
Matters

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Dennis
November 10, 2021 5:58 pm

Lets Go Brandon!!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
November 11, 2021 8:27 am

I think the Republicans are getting ready to hold a rally in Brandon, Connecticut in the near future. I imagine that chant will be front and center. 🙂

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis
November 11, 2021 7:41 am

I think there will be a book published in the near future that will go into detail about what was in Hunter Biden’s laptop.

Here it is:

Laptop from Hell: Hunter Biden, Big Tech, and the Dirty Secrets the President Tried to Hide by Miranda Devine.

It will be available November 30.

Miranda Devine had access to the contents of the whole laptop.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  writing observer
November 11, 2021 7:32 am

Kerry had a relative that was involved with Hunter Biden in a couple fo financial deals, but he appears to be a little smarter than Hunter and got out while the getting was good.

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Streetcred
November 10, 2021 2:50 pm

Money ain’t for nothing, and the techs for free !

I’d be laughing too.

Bryan A
Reply to  Streetcred
November 12, 2021 11:18 pm

That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Money for nothing and Tech for free

Neville
November 10, 2021 2:54 pm

Perhaps the Kerry donkey could also tell the Chinese about the problems of replacing all their fossil fuels with his TOXIC GREEN ENERGY.
Here Mark Mills lists all of the problems replacing fossil fuels with so called GREEN ENERGY. So called Green Energy like TOXIC S&W that has to be buried in LANDFILL every 20 years FOREVER.
A list INCONVENIENT REALITIES from 1 to 41. What a joke.
https://economics21.org/inconvenient-realities-new-energy-economy
“Realities About the Scale of Energy Demand”
“1. Hydrocarbons supply over 80% of world energy: If all that were in the form of oil, the barrels would line up from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles, and that entire line would grow by the height of the Washington Monument every week.
2. The small two percentage-point decline in the hydrocarbon share of world energy use entailed over $2 trillion in cumulative global spending on alternatives over that period; solar and wind today supply less than 2% of the global energy.
3. When the world’s four billion poor people increase energy use to just one-third of Europe’s per capita level, global demand rises by an amount equal to twice America’s total consumption.
4. A 100x growth in the number of electric vehicles to 400 million on the roads by 2040 would displace 5% of global oil demand.
5. Renewable energy would have to expand 90-fold to replace global hydrocarbons in two decades. It took a half-century for global petroleum production to expand “only” 10-fold.
6. Replacing U.S. hydrocarbon-based electric generation over the next 30 years would require a construction program building out the grid at a rate 14-fold greater than any time in history.
7. Eliminating hydrocarbons to make U.S. electricity (impossible soon, infeasible for decades) would leave untouched 70% of U.S. hydrocarbons use—America uses 16% of world energy.
8. Efficiency increases energy demand by making products & services cheaper: since 1990, global energy efficiency improved 33%, the economy grew 80% and global energy use is up 40%.
9. Efficiency increases energy demand: Since 1995, aviation fuel use/passenger-mile is down 70%, air traffic rose more than 10-fold, and global aviation fuel use rose over 50%.
10. Efficiency increases energy demand: since 1995, energy used per byte is down about 10,000-fold, but global data traffic rose about a million-fold; global electricity used for computing soared.
11. Since 1995, total world energy use rose by 50%, an amount equal to adding two entire United States’ worth of demand.
12. For security and reliability, an average of two months of national demand for hydrocarbons are in storage at any time. Today, barely two hours of national electricity demand can be stored in all utility-scale batteries plus all batteries in one million electric cars in America.
13. Batteries produced annually by the Tesla Gigafactory (world’s biggest battery factory) can store three minutes worth of annual U.S. electric demand.
14. To make enough batteries to store two-day’s worth of U.S. electricity demand would require 1,000 years of production by the Gigafactory (world’s biggest battery factory).
15. Every $1 billion in aircraft produced leads to some $5 billion in aviation fuel consumed over two decades to operate them. Global spending on new jets is more than $50 billion a year—and rising.
16. Every $1 billion spent on datacenters leads to $7 billion in electricity consumed over two decades. Global spending on datacenters is more than $100 billion a year—and rising.
Realities About Energy Economics
17. Over a 30-year period, $1 million worth of utility-scale solar or wind produces 40 million and 55 million kWh respectively: $1 million worth of shale well produces enough natural gas to generate 300 million kWh over 30 years.
18. It costs about the same to build one shale well or two wind turbines: the latter, combined, produces 0.7 barrels of oil (equivalent energy) per hourthe shale rig averages 10 barrels of oil per hour.
19. It costs less than $0.50 to store a barrel of oil, or its equivalent in natural gas, but it costs $200 to store the equivalent energy of a barrel of oil in batteries.
20. Cost models for wind and solar assume, respectively, 41% and 29% capacity factors (i.e., how often they produce electricity). Real-world data reveal as much as 10 percentage points less for both. That translates into $3 million less energy produced than assumed over a 20-year life of a 2-MW $3 million wind turbine.
21. In order to compensate for episodic wind/solar output, U.S. utilities are using oil- and gas-burning reciprocating engines (big cruise-ship-like diesels); three times as many have been added to the grid since 2000 as in the 50 years prior to that.
22. Wind-farm capacity factors have improving at about 0.7% per year; this small gain comes mainly from reducing the number of turbines per acre leading to 50% increase in average land used to produce a wind-kilowatt-hour.
23. Over 90% of America’s electricity, and 99% of the power used in transportation, comes from sources that can easily supply energy to the economy any time the market demands it.
24. Wind and solar machines produce energy an average of 25%–30% of the time, and only when nature permits. Conventional power plants can operate nearly continuously and are available when needed.
25. The shale revolution collapsed the prices of natural gas & coal, the two fuels that produce 70% of U.S. electricity. But electric rates haven’t gone down, rising instead 20% since 2008. Direct and indirect subsidies for solar and wind consumed those savings.
Energy Physics… Inconvenient Realities
26. Politicians and pundits like to invoke “moonshot” language. But transforming the energy economy is not like putting a few people on the moon a few times. It is like putting all of humanity on the moon—permanently.
27. The common cliché: an energy tech disruption will echo the digital tech disruption. But information-producing machines and energy-producing machines involve profoundly different physics; the cliché is sillier than comparing apples to bowling balls.
28. If solar power scaled like computer-tech, a single postage-stamp-size solar array would power the Empire State Building. That only happens in comic books.
29. If batteries scaled like digital tech, a battery the size of a book, costing three cents, could power a jetliner to Asia. That only happens in comic books.
30. If combustion engines scaled like computers, a car engine would shrink to the size of an ant and produce a thousand-fold more horsepower; actual ant-sized engines produce 100,000 times less power.
31. No digital-like 10x gains exist for solar tech. Physics limit for solar cells (the Shockley-Queisser limit) is a max conversion of about 33% of photons into electrons; commercial cells today are at 26%.
32. No digital-like 10x gains exist for wind tech. Physics limit for wind turbines (the Betz limit) is a max capture of 60% of energy in moving air; commercial turbines achieve 45%.
33. No digital-like 10x gains exist for batteries: maximum theoretical energy in a pound of oil is 1,500% greater than max theoretical energy in the best pound of battery chemicals.
34. About 60 pounds of batteries are needed to store the energy equivalent of one pound of hydrocarbons.
35. At least 100 pounds of materials are mined, moved and processed for every pound of battery fabricated.
36. Storing the energy equivalent of one barrel of oil, which weighs 300 pounds, requires 20,000 pounds of Tesla batteries ($200,000 worth).
37. Carrying the energy equivalent of the aviation fuel used by an aircraft flying to Asia would require $60 million worth of Tesla-type batteries weighing five times more than that aircraft.
38. It takes the energy-equivalent of 100 barrels of oil to fabricate a quantity of batteries that can store the energy equivalent of a single barrel of oil.
39. A battery-centric grid and car world means mining gigatons more of the earth to access lithium, copper, nickel, graphite, rare earths, cobalt, etc.—and using millions of tons of oil and coal both in mining and to fabricate metals and concrete.
40. China dominates global battery production with its grid 70% coal-fueled: EVs using Chinese batteries will create more carbon-dioxide than saved by replacing oil-burning engines.
41. One would no more use helicopters for regular trans-Atlantic travel—doable with elaborately expensive logistics—than employ a nuclear reactor to power a train or photovoltaic systems to power a nation.”
Mark P. Mills is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a McCormick School of Engineering Faculty Fellow at Northwestern University, and author of Work in the Age of Robots, published by Encounter Books.

RickWill
Reply to  Neville
November 10, 2021 3:56 pm

If burning fossil fuels actually caused climate change, this would be a very depressing list.

Given that CO2 does not alter Earth’s energy balance, the list provides insight into the challenges of eventually weaning off fossil fuels.

A CO2 demoniser reading this list could only come to one conclusion that involved a choice – between rapid genocide or gradual depopulation by controlling the birth rate.

David Sulik
November 10, 2021 2:54 pm

Made In China (cardboard) Aircraft Carrier Intimidates Geriatric Politicians

HotScot
November 10, 2021 2:55 pm

Not much of a ‘deal’ if Kerry didn’t get anything in exchange.

Welcome to the Peoples Republic of America.

DJT must be spitting feathers.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2021 9:21 am

Kerry didn’t get anything in exchange? You really think Kerry does all he does to benefit the US? You haven’t been paying attention. Kerry got lots in exchange, it’s just that what he got is terrible for the US.

Bryan A
Reply to  HotScot
November 12, 2021 5:03 pm

That would be Biden’s United Socialist States of America…USSA

M Courtney
November 10, 2021 3:06 pm

China has the rare earth metals that are required for batteries and other green technologies.
The USA has consumers who are willing to pay China for making the things they want.

It’s a win/win.

The problem isn’t the deal.
The problem is that the west has focussed on services at the expense of manufacturing and so has lost the practical know-how that develops new technology.

The USA has lost the advantage they had. So they may as well seek a comfortable servant position.

Brexit was, in many ways, the UK seeking a complete change of course because the West has gone the wrong away.

Peter Qualey
Reply to  M Courtney
November 10, 2021 3:30 pm

Nice touch about Brexit

RickWill
Reply to  M Courtney
November 10, 2021 4:35 pm

China will not continue to accept USD for stuff they produce for the USA forever. They will want something tangible in return.

A significant proportion of the resources being expended on manufacturing, transporting and installing random electricity generators is wasted. The devices can never recover the energy expended in their manufacture – essentially junk. China now accepts USD as something useful in return for the junk it supplies in the pursuit “renewable energy”. Buying “renewable energy” junk from China using USD is devaluing the USD. China is already rapidly increasing the use of CYN in its global trade. USD is still the global money but its time is coming to an end.

Debasing the USD means that USA will need to start living within its means. USA already owes the rest of the world almost a whole year of GDP. That debt will be eroded by inflation but those holding US debt will really start to question its long-term value.

It costs USA nothing to create more USD but the money only has global value if other countries view it as a store of wealth.

Derg
Reply to  RickWill
November 10, 2021 6:39 pm

The joy of having the world’s default reserve currency.

bonbon
Reply to  Derg
November 11, 2021 5:15 am

Fleeting?

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 8:10 am

Until someone else comes up with a better alternative. So far there are none.

Dave Fair
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 12:16 pm

Mark, there are always alternatives; some not visible. And “things continue until they don’t.” The devaluation of the USD is not a good long-term strategy for maintaining its status as default reserve currency.

David Stone CEng
Reply to  RickWill
November 11, 2021 3:51 am

China is using all the dollars to buy up Britain and the USA. They OWN a lot of us, our infrastructure etc. It is a war without bombs.

MarkW
Reply to  David Stone CEng
November 11, 2021 8:10 am

Japan was doing the same thing 40 years ago.

Dave Fair
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 12:34 pm

And at that time a professor in one of my economics minor courses explained why it was a good thing to trade dirty old dollars for shiny new stuff. Eventually, the dirty old dollars have to be used in investing in the U.S. economy. The value of those investments accrue to the location of the related assets, no matter the physical location of the ass that gets the return. To get rid of the asset, the owner has to sell it to someone else; the asset remains.

In relation to the factories built in China, the factories are worthless unless we continue to ship dirty old dollars to China. Since other countries are shipping dirty old dollars (reserve currency) to China, we had better be very careful with screwing with its value. But politicians have never been known for being careful. Assume the worst and prepare for inflation.

Dave Fair
Reply to  David Stone CEng
November 11, 2021 12:21 pm

Explain the practical difference between a white capitalist “owning” an asset and a yellow capitalist. The location of the asset remains the same. It is the use of the asset that determines its value.

Philip Rose
Reply to  RickWill
November 11, 2021 5:01 am

Why? Because PRC wants America – beautiful land in their language and dollars for junk will buy it for them. Biden et al are selling it to them.

MarkW
Reply to  M Courtney
November 10, 2021 7:38 pm

Between regulations and over priced union labor, those jobs were chased out of the country.

M Courtney
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 12:16 am

There were strategic reasons to keep those jobs without needing to pay slave wages.

MarkW
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 8:11 am

So anything less than union wages are slave wages?
Why do you hate consumers so much?
BTW, there’s a reason why Britain was once considered the sick man of Europe, and it was because of the labor unions.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 8:39 am

That requires smart people who see the big picture, being in charge.

Greed seems to have taken the Big Picture out of a lot of people’s minds.

The Chicoms see the Big Picture. Their Big Picture, anyway. They have a plan. The U.S. currently does not. A failure of leadership.

bonbon
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 5:24 am

The first thing that was banned in 1934 by the ¨Workers Party¨ was unions. Then came slave labor at Dachau for example with precisely limited calorie rationing to guarantee early death on the job.
Efficiency, anyone?

Duker
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 6:57 pm

Nazis werent a workers party.

TonyS
Reply to  Duker
November 12, 2021 1:45 am

The party was the National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler WAS a socialist.

bonbon
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 5:26 am

BoJo broke Brexit – it caught gangrene at FLOP26.

M Courtney
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 6:25 am

He did.
But May also had no idea. She sought a means to push her anti-foreigner ideology with consideration of British Jobs for British people.
Told you all that we needed Corbyn.

MarkW
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 8:15 am

On one hand, British Jobs for British people is a bad idea.
On the other hand, preventing union jobs from being shipped overseas is a good idea.

M Courtney
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 2:47 pm

I missed a word.
I meant to write with NO consideration of British Jobs for British people.
A big muck up by me.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 8:34 am

“The USA has lost the advantage they had. So they may as well seek a comfortable servant position.”

I don’t think so. We’ll see the direction the U.S. is going over the next couple of elections. I don’t think the “servant position” is a winner for voters or for Republicans and I have a feeling the Republicans are going to be running the show again, soon.

So stay tuned. We’ll see if the U.S. is done or not.

Duker
Reply to  M Courtney
November 11, 2021 6:59 pm

The largest rae earth mine is in US. Other mines are in Australia
All that China does is ‘process’ it for other countrys
No need to worry about sources of rare earths at all

Charlie
November 10, 2021 3:22 pm

There, you see, China really is on board with the project. Plebs are expected to forget the vast amounts of coal China intends to burn.

DMacKenzie
November 10, 2021 3:38 pm

There will be a great sharing of the industrial capabilities, methods, and processes of both countries which will help China prepare to reduce their carbon footprint someday after they’ve increased their military footprint.

David Stone CEng
Reply to  DMacKenzie
November 11, 2021 3:53 am

Why would they do that? Waste of time. The Antarctic is colder now than for many many years!

Robert Hanson
Reply to  DMacKenzie
November 11, 2021 9:26 am

They’re not interested in the former footprint, only the latter one….

DHR
November 10, 2021 3:43 pm

As one of John Kerry’s Commanding Officers in Vietnam Nam told me some time ago, John Kerry is supremely unreliable. He does not respect authority. He does not respect the United States nor did he respect the Navy while on duty. He remains the same man today.

Mr.
Reply to  DHR
November 10, 2021 7:18 pm

His history reveals that he has only ever pursued his own wellbeing above all other considerations.

bonbon
Reply to  DHR
November 11, 2021 5:00 am

Sounds just like Colin Powell, who lied the US into another war, and about Mai Lai.

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 8:16 am

So anything you disagree with is a lie.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 8:51 am

Colin Powell did not lie about Saddam Insane having an active WMD program. Powell thought he did have one, as did everyone else who knew anything about it. They had this impression because Saddam Insane actively promoted this narrative in hopes of scaring off his foreign and domestic enemies. Saddam’s own generals thought he had an active WMD program, when questioned after the war was over.

Powell was telling the truth to the best of his knowledge. He was extremely upset when it was found that Saddam no longer had an active WMD program, which allowed people like you to accuse him of lying.

Saddam shouldn’t have lied about it, is all I can say. See what those WMD lies get you, Saddam? They scare people and cause them to overreact.

You brought this on yourself, Saddam. When we caught you, we should have slowly dipped your body into acid and watch you dissolve slowly from the feet to the head, the way you did to some of your enemies. It was said that you sat in a chair smoking a cigar and laughing, while you watched your enemies dissolve. That’s what you deserve. Maybe God is taking care of that for us now.

As far as Powell lying about Mai Lai in Vietnam, I don’t know what you are talking about. Please provide an example of Powell lying about Mai Lai.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  DHR
November 11, 2021 8:41 am

I don’t recall any of the people who served with Kerry in Vietnam having a good word to say about him. Some of them questioned how he obtained some of the medals he got.

Doonman
November 10, 2021 3:45 pm

What position does John Kerry hold in the Biden administration’s executive dept and when was his confirmation hearing before the US Senate?

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Doonman
November 11, 2021 9:31 am

“special envoy for climate” is not an official cabinet position, and thus doesn’t involve a confirmation hearing.

Doonman
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 11, 2021 10:11 am

So that makes John Kerry a private citizen who happens to be employed by the Federal government. He is not an ambassador which requires Senate confirmation.

When a private citizen negotiates with a foreign government as John Kerry has, that’s a violation of the Logan act.

And we all know that Joe Biden is well aware of the Logan act as he was the person who brought it up under the Mike Flynn investigation.

Strange that no one brings it up when democrats do it.

Duker
Reply to  Doonman
November 11, 2021 6:55 pm

“On January 20, 2021, John F. Kerry was sworn in as our nation’s first Special Presidential Envoy for Climate and the first-ever Principal to sit on the National Security Council entirely dedicated to climate change.’

So hes not a private citizen, but an envoy of the President and a member of the NSC – not all of whom are confirmed by Senate.

So your claim is dead wrong

Doonman
Reply to  Duker
November 11, 2021 8:18 pm

What does the National Security Council do?

The National Security Council is the President’s principal forum for national security and foreign policy decision making with his or her senior national security advisors and cabinet officials, and the President’s principal arm for coordinating these policies across federal agencies.

Strange, but nowhere in the definition of what the National Security Council is does the clause “negotiates secret deals with foreign countries” appear.

William Haas
November 10, 2021 3:50 pm

Ad far as curbing CO2 emissions China has agreed to do nothing. I think that China knows the truth, that CO2 has no effect on climate, but John Kerry believes the AGW propaganda. I am sure that China wants to gain every advantage they can over us. They want to make a profit selling us products and then use the profit for buying up parts of our country. Red China is not really our friend and never has been..

Tom Abbott
Reply to  William Haas
November 11, 2021 8:56 am

That’s a pretty good description of the situation.

November 10, 2021 4:42 pm

if what has been agreed is as vague and fluffy as the draft COP agreement:

https://unfccc.int/sites/default/files/resource/Overarching_decision_1-CMA-3.pdf

then I think we have nothing to worry about. I like how the only concrete things in the whole 6 pages relate to 1) money being supplied and 2) more meetings and committees (most likely about how to spend said money).

You really cannot make this quality of drivel up.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ecoGuy
November 11, 2021 8:58 am

It’s all about appearances. On both sides.

We have some really mentally handicapped people running the U.S. government right now. They live on another planet, and don’t realize it.

The Insane think they are the sane ones.

Dave Fair
Reply to  ecoGuy
November 11, 2021 1:19 pm

And their draft “agreement” says:

Common but differentiated responsibilities. [The West does all the reductions and pays the Third World.]

Current national NDA’s would result in a 13.7% increase in GHG emissions from 2010 to 2030. [But, in the aggregate, NDA’s are not being met.]

Punts any action to 11/22 and 2023.

Requests more money from the Developed Countries. [But no definite commitments by anybody.]

Lies about increased current weather-related damage.

Punts on transparency. [Countries can lie and obfuscate at will.]

Usual sustainable development (Five-Year Plan) nonsense.

Usual Social Justice Warrior nonsense.

Thomas Gasloli
November 10, 2021 5:18 pm

Just more hot air that allows Xi to look like a statesman while Kerry once again proves he is a clown. 🤡

billtoo
November 10, 2021 5:22 pm

bought politicians nice enough to stay bought

Carlo, Monte
November 10, 2021 5:56 pm

GO LURCH!!

MarkW
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
November 11, 2021 8:16 am

Yes go, and don’t stop until you are far, far away.

Dennis G Sandberg
November 10, 2021 5:56 pm

If that includes nuclear that may be ok. My understanding is Clinton “gave” China whatever we had decades ago. In the meantime China has probably developed at least as much new technology as the US. Bill Gates has been working with China for years on nuclear, and other than that NuScale seems to be the only other American player. Wind and solar “development” is junk technology so that has no value for either Party.

Geoffrey Williams
November 10, 2021 7:08 pm

A joint climate change pact between US snd China sounds nothing more than a political stunt !
Why else wouldn’t this agreement be shared across all nations ? What’s is so secret, so special ?
After all the requirements of climate change are pretty simple ; stop burning fossil fuels !
But both nations need to burn fossil fuels for a long time yet. Yes a political stunt for sure.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
November 11, 2021 9:01 am

It *is* a political stunt. It was done to make it appear that things are getting done. It’s Happy Talk with Murderous Dictators.

Spock
November 10, 2021 7:18 pm

This is all pointless as Uncle Sam wants yet another war with China and will nuke them into oblivian. All to make the world safe for democracy.

MarkW
Reply to  Spock
November 10, 2021 7:39 pm

Paranoia can be treated, but first you have to admit that you have a problem.

bonbon
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2021 5:03 am

Mainland reacts strongly to US lawmakers’ Taiwan visit; Provocative moves may speed up reunification process: expert
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1238683.shtml
Boomerang anyone, just after a boomer hit a hill?

MarkW
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 8:17 am

Protecting Taiwan from invasion is a provocative move.
Your hatred of all things US and British runs deep.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 9:13 am

The Taiwan crisis exists only in Xi’s head. He’s the one turning this into a crisis with his bullying and bombast.

History may not treat him kindly if his ambitions get half the Chinese population killed.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 1:24 pm

The law of unintended consequences operates on all timescales. Chamberlain’s misapprehension of Germany’s pre-war intentions led to negative unintended consequences.

Dave Fair
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 1:05 pm

The Global Times is a ChiCom mouthpiece.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Spock
November 11, 2021 9:07 am

I can’t think of anyone in the U.S. that desires to go to war with Chicoms. I imagine there are some insane people who would like that, but I don’t think any of them are in a position to start anything. Joe Biden is insane, but he is also an appeaser at heart and he’s not going to start a war with the Chicoms.

What the U.S. was doing, at least before Biden got in office, is to build up defenses in the region and at home to the point that the Chicoms will realize that if they attack the U.S., or its allies, they are signing their own death warrants.

If the Chicoms don’t go attacking anyone, then they can continue to live their lives normally. It’s all up to them. They are the ones pushing the envelope, not the United States. If war comes, it will be because the Chicoms went too far.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 1:27 pm

Or in response to the West’s signaling of weakness. History is replete with examples, all involving severely negative consequences.

Tombstone Gabby
November 10, 2021 9:08 pm

So China lies, then the US dies.

Kerry? “Horse face”? No, the other end.

RoHa
November 10, 2021 9:44 pm

That cuts out the middleman. Previously the US gave the technology to Israel and then Israel sold it to the Chinese.

MarkW
Reply to  RoHa
November 11, 2021 8:18 am

Do you have any evidence of that? Or do you believe it just because it fits your ideology?

Robert Hanson
Reply to  RoHa
November 11, 2021 9:35 am

strange it took so long for one of the trolls on this thread to play the Antisemitism card..

michael hart
November 11, 2021 12:06 am

But there currently isn’t important technology to steal in this area, so it’s an easy agreement to make.

However, if it is true that China is developing a properly commercial Thorium reactor then the USA might want to try stealing that, before China corners the market in modular nuclear reactors based on Thorium.

Lars2021
November 11, 2021 12:49 am

There is no reason to give the technology to China… They already hacked our computers and stole it years ago

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Lars2021
November 11, 2021 9:17 am

The Chicoms have hundreds of thousands of potential Chinese spies living and working in the United States today. There were something like 300,000 Chinese students enrolled in U.S. schools before the pandemic hit. Many more work in every industry we have.

That’s not to convict every Chinese person living in the U.S., but some of them really are spies, and we should be aware of that.

This is war by other means.

Ed Zuiderwijk
November 11, 2021 1:59 am

Kelly is selling out the US strategic assets. He is a traitor. Totally blinded by his irrational belief in man-made climate whatever. He ought to be removed from a position of power asap. And court marshalled.

Duker
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 11, 2021 6:50 pm

Name one strategic asset being sold out

observa
November 11, 2021 3:48 am

Hey woke US media and useful idiots! See how much more pleasant and cooperative Xi can be with malleable Biden and Co rather than that problematic Trump fellow?

Charlie
November 11, 2021 3:51 am

Oh…

Parts of China’s northeast region are facing the worst snowfall in 116 years as a result of unseasonably early winter storms, resulting in significant disruption to daily life.

Oh..

Chinese experts have put the early cold snap down to the La Nina climate phenomenon, which has led to forecasts of bitter winters this year across the northern hemisphere. Zhao Huiqiang, an official at the China Meteorological Administration (CMA), was quoted by state media as saying the country should expect frequent cold waves throughout the season.

Get with it, China. Global warming must be responsible for this.

Chaotic scenes as northeast China hit by record snowfall (msn.com)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Charlie
November 11, 2021 9:21 am

Well, if La Nina caused the jet stream to dip down into northeast China, then the guy may be right. Of course, there’s no way I know of to connect the two. The dip is just a random event that takes place numerous times a year, La Nina, or no La Nina.

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bonbon
November 11, 2021 5:08 am

China-US Glasgow declaration ‘key step in the right direction’ on global climate actions, prevents decoupling worst scenario
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1238712.shtml

What would decoupling look like?

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bonbon
November 11, 2021 5:13 am

Kerry is not new to international diplomacy :

Spuds probably do not work with China.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
November 11, 2021 9:27 am

Kerry protested the Vietnam war one time out in front of the White House and made a big deal of throwing his military medals over the White House fence, along with others who were doing the same.

It turns out Kerry’s medals were safely stashed away at his home, and the medals he threw away were not his. That ought to tell you a lot about his lack of character.

Kerry is a danger to the United States, and has been all his life, with no end in sight.

I actually did throw my military medals away. The day Saigon fell.

My father rescued them from the trash, he told me, but I have never laid eyes on them again. I suppose my father has them somewhere.

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Duker
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 11, 2021 6:49 pm

And George W Bushes medals, of Dick Cheneys medals , Trumps medals
What happened to them

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Duker
November 13, 2021 6:38 pm

Clinton? Obama?

Andy Pattullo
November 11, 2021 6:48 am

Do American voters realize they elected a government that is bent on surrendering all of what many generations of citizens have built with their own ingenuity and sweat? Do they realize it is all being done in the cause of imaginary threats and the failed socialist religion? How long before they stand up for their own wellbeing and for the principles of fairness and common sense? The train is heading for a cliff. There isn’t much time left to apply the brakes before everything is lost.

MarkW
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
November 11, 2021 8:20 am

Probably not. All most Americans knew was that Orange Man bad, and they knew that because all of the major news organizations had been screaming it for years.

Gordon A. Dressler
November 11, 2021 7:05 am

Exactly!

China is currently complaining that without US materials and manufacturing technology related to dissipating heat off the leading edges of hypersonic glide weapons to keep them from melting due to aerodynamic friction, it will be impossible for their country to achieve further reductions in CO2 emissions.

/sarc off

Until the appearance of John “Climate-Czar” Kerry, we had not seen another of the character of Neville Chamberlain.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 11, 2021 9:52 am

You are not being fair to Neville Chamberlain. A naive fool, yes. But he was actually trying to do something good for his country. Unlike Traitor Kerry……

Paul Johnson
November 11, 2021 8:25 am

There has been a great deal of talk about needing U.S. leadership to benefit from the world market for low-carbon technologies. That’s all gone now. We develop new technologies and GIVE it to the Chinese who then TAKE our jobs and SELL the technology back to us. Brilliant.

Buzz
November 11, 2021 9:21 am
The absolute dumbest most brain dead inept incompetent least self aware incapable and totally clueless person on the entire planet is now president, what a country.
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Dave Fair
Reply to  Buzz
November 11, 2021 1:34 pm

Fascinating! The U.S. has unarmed military parades after victory in war. Socialist countries have armed military parades leading up to war.

November 11, 2021 9:38 am
Pat from Kerbob
November 11, 2021 9:54 am

China is making nice sounds right now because they don’t want to increase the world pressure to abandon the upcoming olympics, a huge matter of face for them.

So they tell the useful idiots what they want to hear to ensure nothing derails the show

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
November 11, 2021 10:14 am

Well, yes, but they don’t really need a good reason to lie. Lying is a major part of their Standard Operating Procedure.

Peter K
November 11, 2021 1:21 pm

So the pact is, China will give the US a 5% discount for solar panels and wind turbines, orders over $500mil?

Somethings-not-right-here
November 11, 2021 5:07 pm

Next announcement:

Biden & Kerry to sign an agreement with China for America to hand over the nuclear codes for the sake of “tackling climate change”.

I know it’s not really the field of interest for this website, but gonna be honest since the climate change alarmist position seems intent on crippling the Western world economically while giving China a free pass, and the Biden administration seems worringly friendly with that ugly regime in Beijing, I have me a concern.

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