Guest essay by Eric Worrall
“This could well be my latest campaign…”: Nigel Farage, Britain’s most determined politician, who gave over 20 years of his life to liberating Britain from the European Union, has a new goal.
I have been, since I sat here in this chair back in July, I’ve been saying that the rush to net zero, that the way in which its being done, is going to be ruinous. It will lead to yet more huge transfers of money from the poor to the rich, and given that China isn’t going to play the game anyway, by the looks of it nor is Russia either, what’s it going to achieve?
And I’ve been skeptical. I’m not questioning the fact that seven and a half billion of us on this planet must make some difference to the environment in which we live, and there are many things we could do better to have a greener world. I’m questioning the method by which we are going about this, and in the case of the Prime Minister now, what seems to be almost revolutionary zeal.
He’s pushing for Net Zero, but its supported by all the other parties in Westminster, massive, over 90% of MPs are strongly in favour of Net Zero, and yet, just like the European question, my sense of its been and a growing sense of its been, that out there in the shires, people are asking, hang on, who’s paying for all this? Are you serious?
I’ve got an old Edwardian semi-[detached house], its going to cost £20-30,000 to actually get it equipped, for a heat pump with all the insulation and other things we’ve got to do.
So the other day, in the Daily Telegraph, Alastair Heath the commentator, he proposed, well what about having a referendum on Net Zero? And extraordinarily, overnight the Telegraph have conducted a poll, and 42% of adults said they supported a vote on the plan, 30% opposed it, 28% said they didn’t have a view.
Well if you take out the undecideds, that’s 58% say they would like a ballot on the issue.
And that is very, very interesting, and we’re beginning to see on the back benches now, one or two people in the Conservative Party particularly, questioning what Boris is doing.
Now this proposal for a referendum, this idea that is being backed by voters, is likely to be something of an embarrassment to Boris Johnson, given that COP26 is just around the corner. But clearly a lot of you out there feel, this shouldn’t be done without you being asked, and this isn’t really what you voted for in 2019.
But is a referendum on a specific issue like this really feasible, or should referendums be saved for major constitutional issues?
Source: GBNews video (see above)
One thing I learned about Britons while living in Britain, is how determined they are. We’re talking about a little island nation perched off the coast of Europe, which once decided they wanted an empire, and didn’t stop until they had conquered half the world. Once they set their heart on something, they will endure almost any hardship, to try to achieve their goal.
But this national trait of utter determination can also be a curse. Enough Britons have set their heart on Net Zero for the programme to move forward, but Net Zero with renewable energy is impossible, for a nation which barely sees the sun 6 months of the year, and has wind droughts which last for a week or more.
I fear on this occasion the determination of Britons will lead them to a horrible place. Even when they realise it is hopeless, they will continue, ruining themselves, destroying their country, because a determined people like the Britons just don’t know how to stop, once they have set their heart on a goal – even if the goal is impossible.
Nigel Farage is perhaps Britain’s last hope of averting the net zero madness, before Britain utterly commits to wrecking their own economy. If determination is Britain’s national trait, Nigel Farage is a true son of that proud British heritage. But Farage is a lot older than the young man who set out to liberate Britain from the European Union. Even the determination of someone like Farage cannot continue forever.
There is section on Climate Change in this fictional speech by Donald J. Trump:
Trump Fiction – by C. M. Compton – Optima Sperando (substack.com)
I’m smelling a lot of discontent over Boris net zero. Farage, has form in the tail wagging the dog and winning.
If we have a ref on NZC we must not allow 16-year-olds the vote: they are the children of the BBC and its propaganda. We would be lost to the NZC-Youth.
That said, after the oldies have shuffled off the only people left to pay for the NZC crap in the log term will be the (then, not so) young people who voted for it years before. I wonder what the Chinese is for ‘poetic justice’ (真是理想的因果报应)
Don’t confuse the public with politicians. Mark my words; there’s no appetite for net-zero amongst us plebs. We know how much it’s going to cost us.
Most people don’t actually have a clue. If they really understood, they’d already be rioting.
Britain has an interesting history. The original Britons are the Welsh. The Britain of today is shaped by three major influxes of people. 1. Saxons. 2. Normans. Normans were more Viking than French. Normandy was founded by Rollo the Viking, ancestor of William the Conqueror. 3. Post-WWII migration.
Are today’s Britons really as determined as in the past? I think Brexit tells you that they are. A major campaign for a net-zero referendum could get very interesting. Go for it!! Actually, every country heading for an imposed net-zero should have one. Polls repeatedly show “climate change” at the bottom of people’s list of concerns, and that they are not prepared to pay any “carbon” price. If the political parties won’t offer any alternatives, a referendum appears to be the only non-violent solution. Boris has let his country down very badly – he was elected so that these stupidities wouldn’t happen, and now he’s the cheerleader for them.
Britain has a far more interesting history than that – the original inhabitants were reduced in number, probably by disease and an influx of a different people during the bronze age, that would become the brythonic Celts of the iron age, moved in. Interestingly enough, ‘Welsh’ is a Saxon word meaning ‘foreigner’, which is how the Saxons viewed the romano-britons that remained in Strathclyde, Cornwall and Wales which refers to the place where the Welsh live.
Kindly leave us Welsh out of it.
We had enough with Kinnock, the labour party and the English without getting blamed for yet more stuff from the other side of the Offa’s dike and the “sais”invading to invent yet another costa geriatrica.
Luckily it rains a lot in Wales so it puts lots of other invaders off.
Speaking as one of Irish descent, we always raided Wales from the other side anyway.
do you know what Brexit has done for Britain?
no one to drive lorries – empty shelves in supermarkets all filled with sovereignty!
No one to pick farm produce – left to rot
No one to operate slaughter houses – pig killed and burned.
shortage of chemicals for waste treatment = sh1t discharged into rivers
Queues at passport controls for UK being non EU citizens.
Free EU travel and work removed
Dover cannot handle all import customs checks so none are being done.
delays at ports mean fresh produce rotting at ports.
building of vast lorry parks for lorries trying to cross channel
Universities missing out on funding
fishing wars between uk and France
financial institutions moving to EU.
RNLI life boat personnel rescuing immigrants in channel run risk of imprisonment
need medical insurance to travel to EU – costs – was free
and of course the FU in northern Ireland
The really sad thing is that you actually seem to believe that Brexit is the cause of all those things.
Pretty much every country on the planet is having trouble finding workers and having problems getting on time deliveries.
The only thing in that list that could even remotely be caused by Brexit is the loss of free travel to the EU, and that’s no loss.
Sadly you don’t run an import / export business.
If you had anything to do with that, you would realise you are talking bollox…
In the EU we have no problem at all “finding workers and having problems getting on time deliveries.”, it’s just they are being done by Ukrainians, Lithuanians and Polish, as you will note by seeing the vast fleets of Polish vans running all over France & Germany.
I have my Schengen situation perfectly under control, so I & my family can work unlimited wherever we choose….so “the loss of free travel to (in) the EU,” would otherwise make it impossible for expats to earn a living if I hadn’t sorted that out….(THANKS MATE!)
Brexit has moored my previously successful import business in space all this year.
All of us expats are talking about the nightmare it is to deal with the UK.
I am still waiting for delivery of a vital pallet of goods for 6 months.
It’s destroyed my entire production and earnings for this summer, so I went off for 3 months to do sweet F.A, hoping to come back with something changed.
Came back, still sweet F.A possible. (great!)
A customer of next week doesn’t know when he will get his spare parts (sent DHL express).
They are stuck in customs since yesterday (ACTUALLY IN GERMANY) should be delivered tuesday,- I am supposed to be using them for a job on that day and fly there on a flight I can’t book ‘cos we don’t know F.A, –
but on the basis of the track record, could be delivered anything up to 10 days later, throwing my entire production schedule out of joint in the run up to christmas, and making sure I & many of us like me will do anything ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to avoid buying anything in the UK….
Ie. if you don’t have a clue what you are on about stop talking utter cr.,p
yep it’s all going well in the EU – https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/controlled-demolition-eu
I can’t be bothered to go thru the list but let’s do the top 2 –
Europe’s trucker shortage becoming ‘extremely dangerous …
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.ft.com.icohttps://www.ft.com › content › e8ca2a08-308c-4324-8ed2-d788b074aa6c
The shortage of heavy goods vehicle drivers is widespread across Europe, reaching 80,000 in Germany and 400,000 across the whole EU, according to industry associations. They warn the situation is …
Europe’s new jobless urged to pick fruit amid huge farm …https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.eco-business.com.icohttps://www.eco-business.com › news › europes-new-jobless-urged-to-pick-fruit-amid-huge-farm-labour-shortage
Europe’s new jobless urged to pick fruit amid huge farm labour shortage … Germany is the world’s fourth biggest asparagus producer, growing about 130,000 tonnes a year. The “Spargelfest” (asparagus party) is an annual highlight in many places when communities gather to savour the slender white vegetable, sometimes referred to as “edible ivory”. After closing its borders on March 25 …
Hey it’s the person who told people to drink bleach…shame on you Ghalfrunt
derg DH
Are you drinking bleach?
I’m not sure I could have put this point any better:
“And I’ve been skeptical. I’m not questioning the fact that seven and a half billion of us on this planet must make some difference to the environment in which we live, and there are many things we could do better to have a greener world. I’m questioning the method by which we are going about this, and in the case of the Prime Minister now, what seems to be almost revolutionary zeal.”
The bolded text is the real consensus. Of course, we have! Of course, we can!
“Hear, hear!” and three-cheers, Nigel.
Have a look at a wasted opportunity for the Prime Minister at COP26. Here’s what he should have said.
https://
JFwww.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-sensible-speech-on-climate-the-pm-will-never-make/
I don’t believe that very many people are aware of the cost and the dislocation caused by net zero. A campaign outlining that with the no side telling lies to the same extent that the greens do will wake ’em up.(I mean it has to be conducted fairly, and as the greens have had 25 years to learn to lie the doubter’s will have to pick up their game.)
New fund-raising idea for the no-to-zero case: take your children on a holiday to Mexico. Throw them across the US border and run away. Joe Biden will then give you $450,000 USD for being “forcefully” separated from them.
But he’s only proposing to make those payments to those who crossed the border illegally during Trump’s term. The families that were separated prior to Trump and after Trump, get bumpkis.
Of course, prior to Trump is Obama, he who can do no wrong, and after Trump, well, they’re not being separated anymore, they are just being let in…
They are still being separated.
Go Nigel!
I liked the post a few weeks ago about the German parents letting their daughter actually experience ‘going green’. I know most of our loony left leaders (of all parties) wouldn’t do it but it would be great to let the younger generation experience it by taking away their phones, smart watches, laptops, nice warm houses, cars and buses and any other tech that will give them an idea of what it is they’re wishing for.
I lived through what was called “The Winter of Discontent” in the 1970’s when our local hardware shop was rationing candles, paraffin and bottled gas and we would spent our time wearing almost every piece of clothing we had to keep warm.
I hope God gives Nigel the time strength and will to take this on we the Brits have a huge debt we owe to this mans determination.
James Bull
This is an attempt to force you to remortgage your home.
The massive cost of all modifications amounts to a significant proportion of the value of a property. Virtually no one can afford that. That means more bank loans, more credit.
Once again, this has NET ZERO to do with ecology and “saving the planet” and is all about “saving the banks”.
If you think you’ve paid for you home and you own it, think again. The bank is about to take possession again for another 20y of payments. Are you ready ?
you just made that up: no evidence for it. No requirement for it!
Nobody said there was a direct requirement.
However it doesn’t take a financial genius to figure out that if you require every homeowner to take out massive amounts of money to make required changes to their homes, that most of them will have to take out mortgages to cover the costs.
Not quite right. Who are these determined Britons of whom you speak? They appear to be non existent, and like the mythical fairies, only exist by rumour. Most ordinary Britons are not XR or the Glue-yourself-to-the-road association. They are normal, hard working people trying to make a living for themselves and their families. They will not take kindly to acts of destruction on their lives, like taking away their cars, their warmth and making energy so expensive that all the old pleasures like holidays have to be curtailed.
Well, none of that alarmist stuff is going to happen, is it?
We already got to 42% renewables, only 2% coal electricity and 48.8% reduction on 1990 CO2 and it had no effect on the UK populace whatever.
Blah, blah, blah as usual.
There is no lie so discredited, that griff won’t repeat it over and over and over again. So long as the funding holds out.
Doing 42% for 5 minutes, once a year, is not the same as doing 42% all year long.
I do hope the UK commits suicide with the idiotic “net zero”, it will show the world the folly of such a fantasy. So I am cheering on Boris “I need a comb” Johnson.
I remember a Monty python skit where people were jumping off a cliff in order to open up jobs to younger people. One cheap and easy way to achieve “net zero” is to enourage the climate cluckers to jump off the nearest cliff.
As a Brit I totally agree, & the sooner the better to get it over with.
Hoping for a long hard winter, blackouts, deaths from cold & food + fuel shortages.
Sad, but that’s the only way people will see whats coming & fight back, because people won’t learn from history.
Great. I’ve been hoping he’d get involved in the climate change issue for years.
And what should the question on the referendum be? When we had the Brexit Referendum we had 5 years of Remainers challenging that “Brexit” wasn’t defined. Did it mean leaving the Single Market, the Customs Union, the European Court of Justice? Or all of the above? Hence phrases like Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit ete etc.
“Should the UK abandon ‘The Zero Carbon Target by 2050’, would be inadequate….as it’s open to someone coming along and targetting 2051 or 1% carbon emissions ete etc.
A question could be “Should the UK Government leave UK energy supply to competitive Market forces, while mitigating any abnormal weather related consequences?”
The road at the moment is to introduce sub-optimal, expensive intermittent solutions like wind and solar without appropriate backup.
I’m not holding my breath.
At least a major power outage in mid-winter leading to deaths from cold is a possible game changer much as that would be a disgraceful failure of the governments role to protect the population of the country.
“And what should the question on the referendum be?”
I think it should be: Does CO2 need regulation or not?
From the article: “But is a referendum on a specific issue like this really feasible, or should referendums be saved for major constitutional issues?”
On this particular climate change issue, I think it is just as important as a constitutional issue, because Net Zero as currently planned, will destroy the UK. What’s more important than that?
We need national referendums in the United States. I would like to vote against some of Biden’s insane ideas.
And btw, have you noticed, in the last week Republicans have picked up several U.S. House of Representative seats in the special elections that took place, and now the Democrats only have a majority of three votes in the U.S. House. A few more of these special elections and the Republicans may have the majority in the House. And that would be before the 2022 elections come around. Wouldn’t that be interesting.
The idea of a referendum on a countries plans for ‘net zero’ is a good idea, though there may be a more propitious time.
I know folk on here get all het up about the adjustments to the temperature records, forcing the trend ever higher. It doesn’t bother me though because that will just get us to that ‘dreaded’ milestone 1.5C even quicker.
The alarmists, foolishly, brought down the tipping point from 2.0C when the big ‘pause’ was in operation. They should have left it there because we are going to be reaching the revised disaster point pretty soon, especially with a few more of the ‘adjustments’ they no doubt have in their tank.
Then, when we hit the +1.5C disaster point, what are the public going to see, what are they going to experience? Will food production collapse, land disappear beneath the seas, living conditions become unbearably hot where they live? What?
Of course, they will experience no difference, life will be going on as before, human numbers will continue to rise, food production will continue to set records, depending where they live they will be putting extra clothes on and turning the heating up for big proportions of the year (UK).
So the big scare number will have arrived and it will be like the people who walk around with the “end is nigh” signs, once it doesn’t happen they get ignored and laughed at.
Why would anyone take a blind bit of notice of people who warned of the disasters people would experience at +1.5C when nothing happened. Oh for sure the alarmists will just revert to a new number, “well we really meant disaster will be 2.0C or 2.5C actually”.
However, fewer an fewer people will be listening to their BS. You get one chance at an irreversible disaster forecast, fail that and you are on the path to total irrelevance.
As I wrote to my MP confirming that I had signed the petition and asking for his support:-
[…] I am notifying you that I have signed a petion for a Referendum on Net Zero proposals and hope that you can give this support.
I freely acknowledge that it is almost certain that a referendum would NOT be agreed, let alone succeed if it was, because it would be highly inconvenient for HMG and every other political party represented in the UK. Not to mention all those who, in the last 30 years, have either enriched themselves with useless “Renewable” energy or a multitude of other pseudo-scientific scams, or who have been subjected to the behemoth ‘Project Fear’ that has been successfully mounted by successive administrations to endorse and promote their chosen and annointed “The Settled Science”.
But I suggest that any referendum might prove useful to more easily identify those who have promoted or actively supported the actual existential threat of the Net Zero religious campaign and, when both the impossible project and the economy go over the cliff, can then be held to account.
A reinvigoration of the old Treason Act would also be most welcome.
I would be delighted to discuss this with
you in person, should you so wish.
At least I have tried.
Yet again.
I’ve signed. it’s a must; but much depends on the question being asked.
The public must be made well aware that one Trillion equates to 1000 Billion or 1000,000 million thus every Trillion bandied about by the U.K. Politicians equates to a cost of £16,130 to EVERY person in the U.K. (U.k. population taken as 62 million here).
There are some weird economists about these days such as Mark Garney recorded as saying that the money is there. It NOT. This money must be eventually given VALUE by the sweat of wealth creation by the population over the ensuing years.
The U.K. – USA Lease Loan (is that the name?) during WW2 is an example of this. It took some 70 years for this to be paid back; done recently I believe. Few if any knew that this cost every year was included in their tax returns.
To me it would be unethical to pass this burden on to the next generations.