And in an unbelievable gaffe, he’s told a whole group of people exactly where they can go:
It is probably the most ugly statement I’ve ever seen from a politician regarding a group of people with ideas that disagree with the politician’s own view. If it were a race or class issue, he’d be vilified. He apparently has lost touch with what it means to be an American.
From The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room:
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
And I thought we were past things like this.
AP, Boston Globe, and WBZ-TV confirm this story. Here’s the story on the calving I broke before any MSM where I said “watch the media” I should have said “watch the politicians”.
Markey, who chairs the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, co-authored the House version of the climate change bill that’s currently stalled in the Senate.
h/t to Luboš Motl
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I think we, as Americans, with rights to free speech, should all remind Congressman Markey of what that actually means, especially those in Massachusetts who voted this man into office. His email contact form is here.
Below is the contact info from his web page:
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I presume those who appointed him to chair his committee will now dismiss him without delay due to his inability to at least give an intellectual assessment to both sides of the argument. And surely the people of Massachussets cannot really elect him again – if they do they themselves will be ridiculed for appointing a clown and buffoon. to represent them.
“When government doesn’t agree with the people,
it’s time to change the people”
Bertolt Brecht
I just think it so funny that in America and in the UK the political parties most enamoured of AGW are the strongest parties in the cold northern parts of the country. In both countries, with many local exceptions, southern = conservative and northern = left wing. In both countries the believers will and have been disproportionately affected by cold weather. Those who already have warmer weather seem less bothered than those who spend a part of the year in the freezer.
Have you lost your marbles? Probably the most ugly statement you have ever seen? Comparable to World War II atrocities?
Cringeworthy and embarassing. The man made a joke, a joke in bad state, but geez.
It’s completely innocent compared to the vitriol of the likes of Rush Limbaugh or Pat Robinson. Didn’t Limbaugh call American anti-war protesters who protested the Iraq-war anti-America protesters and tell them to move to France?
You have embarassed yourself big time with this.
[SNIP. Creationism is not the issue. At all. Please, everyone, stick to the facts. ~dbs, mod.]
[SNIP. Stop the creationists discussion. That goes for everyone. That is not the issue here. ~dbs, mod.]
In a week here, I already saw several posts that had huge holes in them that I with my non-climatology background could spot and posts that were obviously politically motivated. So I think I already have a pretty good idea what the level is.
[SNIP. Please stop referring to a tiny subset you refer to as “creationists.” Respond factually, or this is strike two. ~dbs, mod.]
being rather coy, aren’t we, GM?
specifics, dear boy, specifics!
so we can literally assess YOUR literacy………
George Lawson: August 9, 2010 at 2:42 am
I presume those who appointed him to chair his committee will now dismiss him without delay due to his inability to at least give an intellectual assessment to both sides of the argument. And surely the people of Massachussets cannot really elect him again – if they do they themselves will be ridiculed for appointing a clown and buffoon. to represent them.
Markey is spouting the party line — which may even be the reason he was appointed to his chair on the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, which is a creature of the Obama Administration. Massachusetts placed Teddy Kennedy in the Senate for life, and John Kerry is a self-propelled gaffe generator — the Townies will overlook a Hibernian’s goofs unless he becomes actively treasonous…
So we count one for two, right? I wrote and submitted that post before you had butchered the first two, so there was no way for me to know that I shouldn’t be talking about creationism. Not that I care too much, I am perfectly aware that the chances of me not getting banned from here (and in the not so distant future too) are quite slim. But if you are going to do it, at least do it with some integrity
[Reply: Creationism is off-topic. ~dbs, mod.]
Hi Anthony,
Hope you had a great time in Australia while you were here.
I follow your work, and thank you for all the infomation that you provide, it is greatly appreaciated here, I would reply more often but, i get so involved in A.B. blog that i dont have the time to contribute as much as i would like.
Know that i support you in every way, and wish you all success.
Cheers, Scott
Well then……..does the break show signs of melting or is it sharp edged a la the antarctic “Rhode Island” sized floater a few months ago? Are we really talking about an unstable over extension of ice?
Congressman Markey needs to open his books………..was he unable to divest himself of carbon credits in time?
One thing that constantly amazes me, is how liberals, who constantly talk about the need for tolerance, have absolutely no tolerance towards anyone who dares to disagree with them. The more power they have, the less tolerance they show.
GM:
GM wrote:
“Let’s step back for a second from the global warming issue and look at the way our society works in general. Say we have the following situation:
– there is a real and very serious crisis that requires taking action well in advance before its effect become apparent;
– it is of such nature that once those effect are there to see by all, it is too late to do anything to prevent it; the only way to prevent is significant sacrifices by the general population, which makes preventive action highly unpopular;
– not only that, the majority of people so not understand why we should be worried about it, because they are too scientifically (and generally) illiterate, and it is only a small group of scientists who understand it well
– those scientists are seen by the masses as belonging to the self-appointed intellectually arrogant “elites”
…snip…
So can someone explain to me what mechanism is currently present in our society that will make sure that action is taken on time in such a situation?”GM wrote:
“Let’s step back for a second from the global warming issue and look at the way our society works in general. Say we have the following situation:
– there is a real and very serious crisis that requires taking action well in advance before its effect become apparent;
– it is of such nature that once those effect are there to see by all, it is too late to do anything to prevent it; the only way to prevent is significant sacrifices by the general population, which makes preventive action highly unpopular;
– not only that, the majority of people so not understand why we should be worried about it, because they are too scientifically (and generally) illiterate, and it is only a small group of scientists who understand it well
– those scientists are seen by the masses as belonging to the self-appointed intellectually arrogant “elites”
…snip…
So can someone explain to me what mechanism is currently present in our society that will make sure that action is taken on time in such a situation?”
Perhaps you missed your stop, GM.
WUWT is not about assuming a hypothetical, and then providing a solution to said hypothetical. That is a purely Warmist proposition.
(sorry for the duplication….)
GM,
As a stout defender of Congressman Markey’s position, to where, specifically, do you propose that the citizens disagreeing with him should be relocated? To Siberia? Or perhaps to the presumably fast sinking Kiribati atoll, where globaloney warming will quickly drown Markey’s hated opponents?
You sound exactly like one of those perfumed tenured drones of academia, drinking your Kool Aid along with your other layabouts in the ivory tower while suckling at the public teat, rather than working at an actual productive job.
But I could be wrong. If so, what business do you work in? Simple question. What is your answer?
Who said that I am a supporter of Markey? If anything, I think that Markey is a coward and what he whoever else had something to do with the bill did with it, is utterly despicable, because the bill was essentially promoting BAU while masquerading as doing as something about climate change. And not only did they do this, they never had the guts to come out and say “Look, we know the bill is weak and totally useless, but it is out of our control to actually do what’s needed”. No, they presented it as taking action…
Yes, I’m in academia, doing research. I guess this doesn’t qualify as “actual productive job” for you. I am interested to know what does. Moving imaginary money from one computer screen to another?
I am sorry to say that the western world has become a “blame world”. Before the thought process begins to figure out how to solve a problem, the finger and big mouth is already looking for someone/something to blame. It’s sad, but our society is very quickly being transformed into a bunch of whining wimps. I recently watched a program on an American salvage crew, whose head honcho was one tough no nonsense hombre, who got the job done – no BS. I remember thinking I’m seeing a dying breed. Tragically people like this congressman represent the leadership of the “free” world?? – What a joke, no wonder every tin pot dictator gives us the finger. Can we imagine how utterly pathetic we must seem to the Chinese??
Knew it! There is something askew about tenured academics who buy into CAGW globaloney. Maybe it’s your attitude expressed in statements like: “So yes, the people are ignorant and illiterate.” FYI, those ‘ignorant and illiterate’ folks pay your way through life.
So tell us about your ‘research.’ Physics? Engineering? Mathematics?
Or maybe… English Lit, or Sociology. Enquiring minds are curious.
And while you’re at it, maybe you could explain why tenure is not simply gaming the system at the expense of everyone else paying the freight.
neill,
So can someone explain to me what mechanism is currently present in our society that will make sure that action is taken on time in such a situation?”
None, the problem is the solution is too painful – not that the risk is catastrophic. If the answer to stopping the great plagues was a wholesale dislocation of society and economy – rather then a simple shot and killing some pests – people would still be dying. If AGW is real, and the results are truly horrible, then we need a better solution then artificial limits on energy use for the rich nations.
For Congresspersons to do what their constituants want, it usually takes a riot within the district one or more times in the same day. For Congresspersons to do what some special interest people want, it usually takes something in unmarked envelopes and the promise of more to come. Now, if Markey’s district didn’t “DEMAND” this action on his part, how do you think he got the idea? And the courage? And the time?
We don’t need term limits for Congress. We need voters in Massachusetts’ Seventh Congressional District who know a little something about human nature and don’t believe in the tooth fairy anymore. Oh! And it wouldn’t hurt for the rest of us to grow up too.
PS: You NEVER, EVER, NO WAY JOSE’ give either Party control of the White House and “”BOTH”” Houses of Congress with a Super Majority in the Senate!!!!!
That there is a correlation between level of education and support of climate change should tell you something. If, however, the conclusion you draw from that is something like “Those academics buy it, so it must be false”, then this is simply anti-intellectualism 101, and you are hardly to be taken seriously
For the record, I am not a tenured academic.
Genomics
Tenure is necessary so that you can’t have politicians and influential people with money shutting professors’ mouths. They are trying to do it now anyway, imagine what it would be like without tenure. The Soviet Union didn’t have tenure, for example, and it lost countless brilliant minds because of that.
Nearly 20 years ago I was experiencing recurring tingling sensations from my left shoulder to my left hand. There was a spot between my shoulder and neck I could press that would immediately cause the tingling. I went to a doctor and he referred me to a neurologist where they poked dozens of needles in me at various places from my shoulder to my wrist and sent jolts of electricity through the needles measuring how fast the current went from one needle to another. Not finding any problem between shoulder and wrist they concluded there must be a problem where the nerve enters the spinal column. The next thing they wanted to do was exploratory surgery at the vertebra. Total cost was about $2,500 and 8 hours of my time for no relief and no diagnosis.
A colleague at the office (laptop research & development) told me he knew of a good chiropractor I should see before committing to spinal surgery. Since it was just a tingling sensation that was not painful or incapacitating, just annoying, I was already averse to going under the knife over it. So I went to the chiropractor. The chiropractor spent 15 minutes examining me and said “Dave, you have a pinched nerve near the interior edge of your shoulderblade. The cause is a misalingment of your spine typical of people who are hunched over a computer keyboard all day long. The spinal misalignment causes all the surrounding bones and ligaments to be out of place. I’m going to shift everything back where it should be.”
So he did his realignment thing. Total cost $50 and one hour of my time. I was a bit stiff and sore for a day or two afterward then felt fine. So fine in fact I never went to back to the chiropractor again because he fixed the problem. Twenty years have passed and that problem never recurred.
I’m an engineer, GM. Theory is fine but results are what matter. I find your out of hand dismissal of chiropractic a bigotted remark from an ignorant person. You’re a legend in your own mind and a buffoon in everyone elses.
Most posts have said what needs to be said. Mr Markey doesn’t look as if he is exactly from the top drawer, but that is no excuse for such appallingly ignorant form, scientifically and socially.