And in an unbelievable gaffe, he’s told a whole group of people exactly where they can go:
It is probably the most ugly statement I’ve ever seen from a politician regarding a group of people with ideas that disagree with the politician’s own view. If it were a race or class issue, he’d be vilified. He apparently has lost touch with what it means to be an American.
From The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room:
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
And I thought we were past things like this.
AP, Boston Globe, and WBZ-TV confirm this story. Here’s the story on the calving I broke before any MSM where I said “watch the media” I should have said “watch the politicians”.
Markey, who chairs the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, co-authored the House version of the climate change bill that’s currently stalled in the Senate.
h/t to Luboš Motl
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I think we, as Americans, with rights to free speech, should all remind Congressman Markey of what that actually means, especially those in Massachusetts who voted this man into office. His email contact form is here.
Below is the contact info from his web page:
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GM says:
August 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm
“So yes, the people are ignorant and illiterate.”
Kuz that’s why I like the Smart Grid and the
Smart Meters… kuz I’m smart too.
We must increase the energy tax so we can give
it to GE immediately, if not sooner.
Act now, before the rainbows Attack!
The “greatest civilization on Earth”? A country of morbidly obese dimwits half of who think the Earth is 6000 years old and a third of which think the Sun rotates around the Earth and who spent their time sitting behind desks, eating junk food and watching TV?
Whereas the highly educated sophisticates of Western Europe appear to believe that a 5% tax hike results in 5% greater revenues.
I’m not sure which point of view is more dimwitted.
But I am fairly certain that the latter view is, from a purely practical standpoint, equally false and immensely more destructive to human lives (and freedoms).
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
That’s nice congressman. But since you’re the icehugger isn’t the climate on the iceberg more to your liking?
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Don’t Be a Sucker – Don’t Be Suckered. THINK! We are all members of many minorities. Think and protect your natural born rights to freedom! Protect yourself from ANY politician regardless of party affiliation who wants to split people apart like Markey does.
GM thinks anyone who believes in chiropractic or Christianity is unfit for public office, but that Wikipedia, where anybody can post anything or alter any article (unless one is taking a skeptical position concerning AGW), is a reliable source of historical information on who invented what.
This comment is revealing:
“The ‘greatest civilization on Earth’? A country of morbidly obese dimwits half of who think the Earth is 6000 years old and a third of which think the Sun rotates around the Earth and who spent their time sitting behind desks, eating junk food and watching TV? I think the ‘lazy fricken ass’ description fits you very well, because you seem to not have bothered yourself with actually looking around you and understanding what’s going on. ”
Then there is this:
“The majority of people in this country are creationists, and this is not because the scientists haven’t done their part in educating the public, it is because they are running against people’s religion.”
So GM is an American who hates the USA, is ungrammatical, uses Canadian punctuation, and flat out lies. A majority of people in this country are not morbidly obese dimwits, are not creationists, and do not believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. GM manufactures statistics out of thin air–standard operating procedure for AGW believers–and then uses them to trash an entire nation and its people, backing up his superior self-view by citing Wikipedia entries. (Note I am using “he” and “his” in the generic since, as I do not know GM’s gender.) Does he qualify as a troll or just as an egomaniacal bonehead?
BTW, I am not a Christian or chiropractor, am not obese, and do not spend my time watching television while eating junk food. I also do not know a single person who fits GM’s description of the typical American. If he really hates America and Americans so much, why does he live here? Isn’t this indicative of some kind of masochistic neurosis?
[SNIP. Baseless name-calling.]
If global warming skeptics were an ethnic or religious group, Markey’s suggestion would definitely qualify as hate speech. And my sarcastic response would be: Ethnic cleansing, anyone?
Nevertheless Markey’s gaffe is quite revealing. There are a number of political movements uniting under the Climate Alarmist banner. One thing that most of them have in common is a lack of tolerance for free speech. Edward Markey, thanks for reminding us of that fact.
“GM says:
August 8, 2010 at 9:41 pm”
GM, you are way way way behind the curve. Ipcc CAGW Climate Science is not using the Scientific Method. Familiarize yourself with the contents of this blog. You will be seriously awakened. It’s worth it.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
When I see garbage like Markey, and the venom he spews, I’m reminded of a Thomas Jefferson quote.
“The tree of liberty, from time to time, must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”
I am so tired of people like Markey who make a mockery of the sacrifices of our forefathers. I’m tired of people like him who spit in the face of our heritage. How long will we have to endure such maniacs? When will the people of Massachusetts remember their roots? Why do they insist on inflicting the worst of their worst upon the rest of us? Are they in a competition with California? What’s wrong with these people?
GM:
[Post Normal Science, “begging the question”, ~Precautionary Principle, blah blah blah….]
– those scientists are seen by the masses as belonging to the self-appointed intellectually arrogant “elites”
The above description fits very well global warming, peak oil, and our global ecological overshoot in general, but I am not talking about those right now, I am talking in general, there can be plenty of other such scenarios.
So can someone explain to me what mechanism is currently present in our society that will make sure that action is taken on time in such a situation?
Well, GM, I can actually think of an infinite number of such scenarios, and “support” them, simply by using Post Normal Science’s own [anti-Scientific Method] method, which therefore brought us the totally unscientifically concocted CAGW controllist propaganda senario which you have apparently fallen prey to: simply use, as did the ipcc Climate Scientists, “Whatever is at all conceiveable as a possible imminent threat, is therefore an actual threat and even a burgeoning epidemic; and we must immediately do something really stupid – especially such as giving ultimate power over us to those who have concocted the senario, committing suicide, or returning to the Stone Age, etc. – or else we’re all gonna die.”
GM, the question is not what to do about the infinite number of scientifically untethered, psychopathologically disasterizing senarios made equally available by nearly anyone’s own imagination – and now concocted and backed by $billions in propaganda operations by would be Controllists such as the current Communists/”Progressives” and Post Normal Scientists themselves, in order to achieve their real ends, self-aggrandizement and control – and, of course, alleged meaning in life.
Because absolutely nothing should be done about those kind of senarios, except to first compare and expose them to the Scientific Method – again which in the case of CAGW has not been done by the ipcc Climate Scientists themselves, but instead finally by the “skeptics”.
So the real question, GM, is when are you going to recognize unscientific Propaganda for what it is, and face that very real threat?
Do politicians have a list of desired traits that enable them to do what they do? And if so, when did “cretin” become de rigueur?
Don’t get too wound up! The best thing to do in this situation is to laugh and let the evidence speak for itself. American politicians have a grand tradition of moronic utterances. Who can fail to be entertained by Sarah Palins nonsensical utterances and that past master of the foot in mouth gag Dan Quail, we miss him on this side of the Atlantic. Keep your science and politics apart, and don’t go over the top by comparing crummy jokes with racial persecution.
GM says:
August 8, 2010 at 11:11 pm
“[…]GM says:
August 8, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Using blanket dismissal of your opponents position without actually providing any arguments against is often a sign of mere inability to provide them. You don’t win any points for that post ”
Just repeats his stupid point… Stubborn… Very good leadership quality there; combined with the refusal to accept the fact that the Alarmist Congressmen are, unfortunately, mentally challenged…
So, GM-bot, are you programmed to answer this question: What is it about democracy that you don’t understand?
“Congressman Malarkey”… I love it! I’ve been calling him that since he first came to my attention back in the 70s.
The Congressman has, for decades, been on the side of increased use of fossil fuels, and increased release of CO2 into the atmosphere. That is, he has been a consistent, absolutist opponent of nuclear power. (That’s the options: Carbon, or fission. At this point, there’s nothing else standing between us and a fast-track return to the 16th century.)
A high school friend of mine, after he got out of the Navy as a reactor operator on the Nimitz, said he considered working for Markey — that Markey desperately needed someone standing beside him to nudge him and whisper in his ear “Congressman, you’re saying something stupid again.” (If he applied, I’m sure he didn’t get the job.)
stevengoddard says: at 3:44 pm
“…This looks like one of those “collapsing ice shelf” stories which can be recycled by the press every couple of years.”
Yes, and it’s a British media favourite. They’ve even used the same pictures five years in a row because they think we are all too stupid to notice. They also forget to mention that the two reasons these lumps break off is because the glaciers are growing and forcing themselves into water, and it’s the weight of ice that snaps off the end section because no melting has occurred.
All these stories are doing terrible damage in the UK, and they will in the US, too, if the gang of climate change liars can get away with it. For example, a new law is being enacted to charge developers a £15,000 “green tax” on every new home they build. Part of this tax includes contributions to a “buy-out fund” to pay for the construction of wind farms, solar panels or geothermal technologies in the local area, which would supply the new development with “green” power.
The housing minister, Grant Shapps, said: “We are committed to being the greenest government ever, and an essential part of that is to ensure that all homes in the future will be built without emitting any carbon. This announcement is an important and very significant step in that direction because for the first time we have described in detail how developers might be expected to achieve zero carbon, by connecting developments to local energy schemes.”
The previous government, the most incompetent and corrupt in our history, which we’ve just kicked out, set the 2016 “zero-carbon” target in 2006 but did little to explain how it would be met, or even what the definition meant. Supporters of the tax complain that the coalition has reneged on a promise to set out a definition for a zero-carbon home “within weeks” of taking office.
If you don’t live in Britain, consider yourself lucky you don’t have to put up with eco-loonies like these.
Come on it’s an amusing comment – first sign I’ve seen that global warmers have one!
Having been awarded a ‘gate for their climate post-science science, the warmists are eager to return us a favour by awarding us skeptics with a big chunk of ice, proving that there’s a lot of it up there, not to mention the record sea ice cover down at the South Pole. They’re drowning in their own s…t and a drowning man will clutch at straws and icebergs too, but drown he will eventually.
I get the impression that many politicians are really failed professionals, having failed to make it out in the competitive world, then constrianed to join a politcal party for the gravy.
I m not american, but european and I thought this was an EU malady, but I m wrong, its international.
GM says:
August 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm
“And it is much worse if we define scientific literacy the way it should be defined, i.e. as a working understanding of the methodology of science, rather than just the ability to recite a laundry list of facts learned in school.
The Climategate leak shows that the ‘scientists’ working at the UEA CRU, purported to be one of the worlds top climate research facilities, do not understand the scientific method, or if they do, choose to ignore it. Any hypothesis must have tests for falsifiability built into it, but CAGW is nothing more than cargo cult science, as these tests for falsification are ignored.
The most interesting revelation came during a BBC interview with Dr. Jones who was head of the CRU before being suspended. During the interview he confessed that there had been no statistically significant warming for the past 15y. This falsifies the CAGW hypothesis – CO2 levels rose quickly over this period meaning that is a minor player in climate change.
Perhaps no surprise that fewer and fewer people believe in the CAGW myth!
Perhaps Markey should be the one to go since he is in the minority with his alarmist group.
GM,
You’ve chosen a very curious forum from which to pontificate about ‘scientific illiteracy’. Sounds like you’re not too familiar with WUWT, and the issues typically hashed out around here. Stick around, love to hear your ‘literate’ input moving forward.
Max Hugoson says:
August 8, 2010 at 3:42 pm
The head of the ANS, with an absolute “poker face”, when asked a question by Ted Kopple, responded by saying, “Before I answer those questions Ted, I’d like to address some of the points brought up by Congressman Malarky..”
Thanks, that is very funny Max.
Malarky Island, Malarkyberg, or Malarkyville would be a better name for the berg.
Maybe we should plant a flag on it so the press can properly refer to it with threat status reports for the next several years.
Oh and GM, for a hilariously literate distillation of the climate *science* debate, check out:
http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/06/mosher-on-gavins-frustration/
I’m happy living in England since the glaciers retreated after the last iceage because it warmed. I don’t fancy Greenland with the glaciers expanding as they’d push me into the sea. It’s also a bit cold up there like the soviet siberian gulags were. Lost the plot or what?
GM wrote: The “greatest civilization on Earth”? A country of morbidly obese dimwits half of who think the Earth is 6000 years old and a third of which think the Sun rotates around the Earth and who spent their time sitting behind desks, eating junk food and watching TV?
I don’t think it’s true that half think the earth is 6,000 years old. I think it’s that something like half believe that the human race is less than 6,000 or 10,000 years old. But never mind that. If your point is valid, it’s valid also with the latter claim. Trouble is, it’s not valid, because some great majority of the people who believe the “right stuff” are scientifically illiterate; their beliefs are about as stupid as the beliefs you’re talking about. For example, some of them believe in Lamarckian evolution (without knowing that’s what they believe), and most that believe in Darwinism think the explanation from mutation and natural selection is “obviously” correct, or unproblematical.