And in an unbelievable gaffe, he’s told a whole group of people exactly where they can go:
It is probably the most ugly statement I’ve ever seen from a politician regarding a group of people with ideas that disagree with the politician’s own view. If it were a race or class issue, he’d be vilified. He apparently has lost touch with what it means to be an American.
From The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room:
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
And I thought we were past things like this.
AP, Boston Globe, and WBZ-TV confirm this story. Here’s the story on the calving I broke before any MSM where I said “watch the media” I should have said “watch the politicians”.
Markey, who chairs the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, co-authored the House version of the climate change bill that’s currently stalled in the Senate.
h/t to Luboš Motl
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I think we, as Americans, with rights to free speech, should all remind Congressman Markey of what that actually means, especially those in Massachusetts who voted this man into office. His email contact form is here.
Below is the contact info from his web page:
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“Deniersberg”!
LOL!!!!!
GM: August 9, 2010 at 9:05 pm
…it is not entirely surprising that you haven’t had the primitive distrust of intellectuals educated out of you.
Primitive people have pretty good instincts. It’s how they *survive* in the real world, rather than the artificial one in which everything is provided by the efforts of others.
That’s why it is always important to make the distinction between engineers and scientists when the argument from authority is used.
So, does your guru, Raj Pachauri, know you’re dissing him like this?
I agree completely with Arn Riewe said in the 4th comment (August 8, 2010 at 2:59 pm).
The beauty of AGW is that it’s soooooooooo hard to disprove. How do you prove to Chicken Little that the Sky ISN’T Falling?
We might as well save our breath! Besides, the AGW psyentists will only blame us for making everything worse by talking and typing so much.
Hmmmm. Just Googled “global ecological overshoot” and found
Area demand can exceed area supply. For example, a forest harvested at twice its regeneration rate appears in our accounts at twice its area. This phenomenon is called “ecological overshoot” (14, 15).
Thus, the ecological impact of humanity is measured as the area of biologically productive land and water required to produce the resources consumed and to assimilate the wastes generated by humanity, under the predominant management and production practices in any given year. Not only human demand on nature, but also nature’s supply changes over time because of innovations in technology and resource management, changes in land use, and cumulative damage of past impacts.
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/14/9266.full
That explains the elitist attitude and failure to provide references for his statements — GM’s a Malthusian.
GM, re: “global ecological overshoot”:
Yet, people still refuse to accept it. As they refuse to accept the much less contentious issue of global ecological overshoot, which, as I will not stop pointing out, is just as true without AGW as it is with, and which is pretty much irrefutable, backed by rock solid data and plenty of historical examples of the growth-overshoot-collapse cycle on local scale.
So, as a result of the local creation of excess wealth compared to an alleged unsustainability of same, local ecological overshoot results, which when generalized necessarily produces “global ecological overshoot”? Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, given these deeply held presuppositions, which also place an immediate limit upon the possibility of further true wealth creation, I hereby present Western society’s Academia as exampled by, say, GM and the “armchair” ipcc Climate Science as cases in point: the effete ecological niche we of the “overdeveloped nations” have artificially created to sustain such activity, which in itself even tends to be a counterproductive force to boot, will “collapse” locally and perforce contribute to “global ecological overshoot and collapse”, unless we do something to abort this local niche immediately!
But, fortuneately, “we” don’t have to do much of anything in this case because we seem to have some very dedicated and willing volunteers to effect what their “irrefutable” ethical and factual beliefs demand of them = suicide, a win-win solution for everyone!
Careful, there, JPeden — you’re cruising into knuckle-dragging, IQ-of-60, primitively superstitious suspicion of progressively-enlightened highly-trained intellectuals, morbidly-obese creationist territory!
‘Nother words, “Rat own, Bro…”
I’ll supply the feathers and hot tar; anyone else want to supply a little muscle power to escort Markey out of our country?
And GM, as an MIT alum redneck engineer PhD, I find your cultural and racial bias, bigotry, and insensitivity as only oh too typical of your “intellectual ilk”. But there were plenty of obnoxious east coast “intellectuals” at the ‘tute, so no surprise.
Hope you don’t mind if I borrowed your ‘new country name’. See: “The iceberg treatment: The congressman, the iceberg, and a PBS freeze-out” http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/the_iceberg_treatment.html
Excerpt: “Skeptic blogger Anthony Watts has already named the iceberg “Deniersberg.” We could simply laugh at this, if only the far greater problem Markey personifies weren’t so serious: anyone who questions the idea of man-caused global warming needs to go someplace where they can’t be heard. That would include ordinary citizens just like me.”
Warming deniers should start their own country? They already have started one . . . China! (cue snare drum rim shot)
Bill Tuttle says:
August 10, 2010 at 2:49 pm:
Careful, there, JPeden — you’re cruising into knuckle-dragging, IQ-of-60, primitively superstitious suspicion of progressively-enlightened highly-trained intellectuals, morbidly-obese creationist territory!
ah clings to muh trusty Jon Carray 10 gage just in case theyall don’t onry that there bargan of theirs…it ain’t nothin personal, rules is rules, thats all…
You forgot “bitterly” — we cling “bitterly”…
ah’m too dumb to be bitterly..
we can tell him where to shove the iceberg at.
Spain’s plan to have 2,000 electric cars on the road by the end of 2010 have been dealt a blow as figures showed just 16 have been sold.
That is not a typo. 16 cars have been sold since the electric cars went on sale in 2009. The government’s REVE electric car and wind power project had announced a rather bold investment in the vehicles:
In April, the government said it would invest …$775 million In the production of electric cars. It aims to have 250,00 electric and hybrid cars in circulation by 2014.” (ibid BBC)
This is what gubment energy intervention looks like in Eutopia.