More buckets of icy cold energy reality

Democrats, Green New Dealers and UN gabfest attendees need to get ‘woke’ on eco-energy

Paul Driessen

The full-court press is on for climate chaos disaster and renewable energy salvation. CNN recently hosted a seven-hour climate event for Democrat presidential aspirants. Every day brings more gloom-and-doom stories about absurd, often taxpayer-funded pseudo-scientific reports on yet another natural event or supposed calamity that alarmists insist is due to fossil fuels that provide 80% of US and global energy.

MSNBC just hosted another two-day Democrat presidential candidates climate forum at Georgetown University – where I spoke at a contrarian program. Meanwhile, a big Climate March took place in New York City, while protesters tried to block Washington, DC streets. They were all kicking off the UN’s “Global Climate Week” in NYC, featuring a Youth Climate Summit and UN General Assembly event where world leaders will demand “global action” to supposedly stop the supposed climate crisis.

Their standard solution is biofuel, solar, wind and battery power. My recent article dumped buckets of icy cold reality on several of those claims. They obviously need to be doused with a few more icy buckets.

To reiterate: Wind and sunshine are free, renewable, sustainable and eco-friendly. However, the lands and raw materials required for technologies to harness this widely dispersed, intermittent, weather-dependent energy to benefit humanity absolutely are not. In fact, their environmental impacts are monumental.

The Democrat candidates and their supporters want to replace coal and gas backup power plants with batteries, to ensure we have (much more expensive) electricity even when intermittent, weather-dependent wind and sunshine refuse to cooperate with our need for 24/7/365 power for our electricity-based homes, schools, hospitals, factories, businesses, computers, social media and civilization.

So let’s suppose we blanket the United States with enough industrial-scale wind and solar facilities to replace the 3.9 billion megawatt-hours Americans used in 2018 – and we manufacture and install enough king-sized batteries to store sufficient electricity for seven straight windless or sunless days.

We would need something on the order of one billion 100-kilowatt-hour, 1,000-pound lithium and cobalt-based battery packs – similar to what Tesla uses in its electric vehicles. (This does not include the extra battery storage required to charge up the cars, trucks and buses we are supposed to replace with EVs.)

All these batteries would support the millions and millions of Green New Deal solar panels and wind turbines we would have to build and install. They would require prodigious amounts of iron, copper, rare earth metals, concrete and other raw materials. And every one of these batteries, turbines and panels would have to be replaced far more often than coal, gas, nuclear or hydroelectric power plants.

Indeed, what are we going do with all those worn-out and broken-down turbines, panels and batteries? The International Renewable Energy Agency has said disposing of just the worn out solar panels that the UN wants erected around the world by 2050, under the Paris Climate Treaty’s solar energy goals, could result in two times the tonnage of the United States’ total plastic waste in 2017!

So another icy cold reality is this: All this “free, renewable, sustainable, eco-friendly, ethical” energy would require the biggest expansion in mining the world has ever seen. But when was the last time any environmentalist or Democrat supported opening a single US mine? They detest mining.

Which brings us to the dirtiest pseudo-renewable, pseudo-sustainable energy secret of all – the one these folks absolutely do not want to talk about: slave and child labor.

Because of rabid environmentalist opposition, the United States and Europe no longer permit much mining within their borders. They just import minerals – many of them from China and Russia. And the same groups that extol the virtues of wind, solar and battery power are equally opposed to Western mining companies extracting rare earth, lithium, cadmium, cobalt and other minerals almost anywhere on Planet Earth – even under rigorous Western labor, safety, environmental and reclamation rules.

That means those materials are mined and processed in places like Baotou, Inner Mongolia, and the Democratic Republic of Congo, mostly under Chinese control. They are dug out and processed by fathers, mothers and children – under horrific, unsafe, inhuman conditions that few of us can even imagine … under almost nonexistent labor, wage, health, safety and pollution standards.

Those renewable energy, high-tech slaves get a few pennies or dollars a day – while risking cave-ins and being exposed constantly to filthy, toxic, radioactive mud, dust, water and air. The mining and industrial areas become vast toxic wastelands, where nothing grows, and no people or wildlife can live.

For cobalt alone – say UNICEF and Amnesty International – over 40,000 Congolese children, as young as four years old, slave away in mines, from sunrise to sundown, six or even seven days a week. That’s today. Imagine how many will be needed to serve the “ethical green energy utopia.”

Green New Dealers demand sustainable, ethical, human rights-based coffee, sneakers, T-shirts, handbags and diamonds. Absolutely no child labor, sweat shop, or toxic, polluted workplace conditions allowed. But they have little or nothing to say about the Chinese, Russian and other companies that run the horrid operations that provide their wind turbines, solar panels, smart grids – and batteries for their cell phones, Teslas, laptops and backup electrical power.

I’ve never seen them make ethical wind turbines, solar panels and batteries an issue. They’ve never protested outside a Chinese, Russian or Congolese embassy, or corporate headquarters in Beijing, Moscow or Kinshasa. They probably don’t want to get shot or sent to gulags.

And just a few weeks ago, California legislators voted down Assembly Bill 735. The bill simply said California would certify that “zero emission” electric vehicles sold in the state must be free of any materials or components that involve child labor. The issue is complicated, the legislators said. It would be too hard to enforce. It would imperil state climate goals. And besides, lots of other industries also use child labor … they “explained.”

As Milton Friedman said, there is no free lunch. Wind, solar, biofuel and battery power are not free, clean, green, renewable or sustainable. America must not let delusion, dishonesty and ideology drive public policies that will determine our future jobs, prosperity, living standards, freedoms and civilization.

What Green New Dealers are talking about has nothing to do with stopping dangerous manmade climate change – or with real sustainability, resource conservation or environmental protection. It has everything to do with increasingly socialist, largely taxpayer-financed activists, politicians, regulators and crony capitalists controlling people’s lives; dictating our energy use, economic growth, job opportunities and living standards; and getting richer, more powerful and more privileged in the process.

Meanwhile poor, minority and working class families – pay the price. And destitute families in hungry, impoverished, electricity-deprived nations pay the highest price. China, India, Indonesia and Africa are not about to give up their determined efforts to take their rightful, God-given places among Earth’s healthy and prosperous people. They are not going to stop using fossil fuels to reach their goals.

They are not going to let anyone – including the UN, EU, US Democrats and other eco-imperialists – tell them they can never enjoy those blessings. Or they will be “allowed” to improve their health and living standards only at the margins, only to levels achievable with wind, solar and cow dung power.

That’s why, even as the United States reduced its carbon dioxide emissions by 12% between 2000 and 2017 – India’s plant-fertilizing CO2 emissions soared by 140% and China’s skyrocketed 194% – further greening Planet Earth. In 2019 alone, China alone will add more coal-fired generating capacity than what all existing US coal-fired power plants generate.

While all these countries continue using more and more fossil fuels to improve their economies, health and living standards – why in heaven’s name would the United States want to join Green New Dealers and other crazies in an environment-destroying ban-fossil-fuels economic suicide pact?

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of books and articles on energy, climate, environmental and human rights issues.

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76 thoughts on “More buckets of icy cold energy reality

  1. “… install enough king-sized batteries to store sufficient electricity for seven straight windless or sunless days.”

    And on the eighth day thou and thy family shall freeze to death

    • Batteries made, transported, mined or designed with fossil fuels can NOT be used.
      Strip naked and go into the forest or desert with no man made tools.
      Then and only then will you be fossil fuel free.
      Because when renewable energy components are made, transported, mined or designed with fossil fuels-they are a fraud.

    • If you’re really into energy conservation, you can build a house that requires next to no heating. Of course, you have to be careful not to suffocate.

    • This is a really great post by Paul.
      Really shows the hypocrasy and stupidity of the so called “Green” movement.
      Thanks.

  2. Nothing is ever good enough for the left. You would think Canada is a racist pig sty if you listen to the CBC.

    Right now, Canada’s Prime Minister ‘He who dances with unicorns’ is being pilloried because he had the audacity to wear an Aladdin costume with skin paint to make himself look authentically brown. Somehow this is an affront to all black people everywhere.

    I can remember when it was OK for the actor playing Othello to appear in black face.

    Following the trajectory of the left, a white male novelist will only be able to write about white males. Any other kind of character would be cultural appropriation.

    When I was a pup, the idea was to make skin color irrelevant, ie. society would be color blind. We’re closer than anyone has ever been in the history of the world to achieving that. My family is pretty darn ethnically diverse. But that’s nowhere near good enough for the social justice warriors.

    Al Capp had it right when he referred to the SWINE.

    • Peter Pan always played by a female. Hamilton played by an all black cast.
      It’s only objectionable if a white male plays a non-white male role.

      • In addition to a female ‘principal boy’, English pantomime has always had a comic ‘dame’ – always played by a man. Ooooh no! A hundred and fifty years of English traditional humour is no longer acceptable! (But then Leftist have NEVER had any ‘sensa yumor’).

    • I have to support commieB on this one. The CBC has lost its moral compass. Being an actor and getting into character is becoming immoral, they say. Suppose I tell a joke about a priest, a minister and a Rabbi. I put on an English accent for the minister, a Yiddish accent for the Rabbi and an Irish accent for the priest.

      Is this racist? No, it is “cultural appropriation”, the new offence no one has heard of. I am not allowed to pretend to be the character I speak the line for? What the heck? Comedy is dead.

      We had a domestic servant in Africa who came to work in white face. Really. I didn’t realise I should have screamed and danced about the “racism” she so obviously displayed, reminding me about the historical hatred her people displayed when they captured shipwrecked Europeans, killed the men and sold the women into forced marriages. I’d forgotten.

      Good job I didn’t protest. Everyone would have laughed me out of town. Why? Because only Whites can be racists! Ha ha! No kidding that’s what people say, even now. How do you lampoon that? How do you deal with such a racist statement that “only some races are able to be racist”?

      Good grief. My family has as members representation from 8 ethnic groups and 5 races speaking 10 languages between us (at least). I’d say we were very “racy”, eh?

      We are going to generate a new race with a new cultural foundation and a far saner world without the blatant hypocrisy and selective memory.

  3. Does greta the co2 seeing child and other green people know about this— Why is this no shown on national news channels? The people who speak the truth about the weather, need a bigger platform, they can’t stay on blogs and websites any more!!!!

    For cobalt alone – say UNICEF and Amnesty International – over 40,000 Congolese children, as young as four years old, slave away in mines, from sunrise to sundown, six or even seven days a week. That’s today. Imagine how many will be needed to serve the “ethical green energy utopia.”

    • I’ve seen CO2! It was this block siting on a table, and mysteriously over time it shrank and then disappeared.

      CO2 is magic that way.

          • Installing interference fit fasteners on the C-17 aircraft required liquid nitrogen soak of the bolts before driving them (quickly!) through bored holes in the structural ‘stack up’. It’s was a tag team effort, with one guy dipping the bolts out of the liquid nitrogen (after the boiling stops) and the other guy driving them through the drilled hole with a pneumatic driver before they can expand and seize up!

    • Alarmist rationalization 101:
      The needs of the many socialists exceed the needs, even the survival of a few slaves and children. The ends justify the means….. in this (sick) post normal science world where “facts are uncertain, values in dispute, stakes high and decisions urgent”.

  4. This is the one issue – raw material acquisition – that people like griff don’t want to talk about. They have no idea where all the resources necessary to build all those millions of solar panels and windmills are going to come from, and they don’t want to think about it. Then again, engineering and math are not their strong point.

    • What about EOL? All of the solar panels ever produced are destined to become toxic waste at the end of their productive life. The ‘greenest’ energy is apparently China manufacturing the toxic waste of our future which we naively buy in massive quantities.

      • Another thing they don’t mention is that you need to double the amount of solar panels so that you have enough excess electricity to charge the batteries, while still having enough electricity to supply the needs of the population.

  5. Paul needs to add what it would take in battery storage, not at an average 7 day period, but at a peak in summer or winter, when there is a real threat of dying from heat or cold. Also, it seems to me you would need peak capacity in the south in summer and north in winter, increasing the overall quantity of battery storage, and resulting in unused capacity for much of the year.

  6. Not to worry about the children. Long before raw material mining could be an issue, our and most other countries economy will be destroyed. We will be reduced to eating each other which is the goal of the leaders of climate alarmist. The utopia they envision can then rise from the ashes. By the time the useful idiots realize they have made a mistake it will be too late (see Volstok sailors).

  7. To me the worst aspect of all this hysteria is the similarity with the history of the rise of fascism in Germany in the 30s with the Hitler Youth movement and the “Little Red Book” of Chairman Mao in China with teachers being hauled up in front of their student Committees for discipline. This book was the consensus; best not challenge or ignore it.

    These Climate debates or forums have little to do with climate. They are merely thrashing out the draft copy of what will be “The Big Red Book”

  8. Replacing a fossil fuel electricity generation plant with solar panels or wind turbines is like replacing a Mack truck with a Prius. I don’t think that’s gonna work.

    NPR today played audio of Greta’s speech to the U.N., where she repeatedly said, “Shame on you” to the delegates. But the NPR reporters made no effort to correct any of the outlandish claims she made about people dying and the planet disintegrating. Therein lies part of the problem. Greta is no expert, but she sure is angry.

    • This new tactic of hers, of crying and screaming at us while lying shamelessly, is a huge escalation.
      It is incredibly offensive.

      • Of all the adults in the room (politicians, diplomats, journalists, etc.), was there not one who had dealt or was in the process of dealing with a girl in her mid-teens? Do they allow their own children to display such gormless and disrespectful hysteria in front of them and other members of their family, let alone other adults within the room? What a spineless excuse for leadership.

    • I think you actually meant “like replacing a Mack truck with a tricycle – with an occasional rider.”

  9. For some 2000 years the religious faiths, Hebrew, Christianity and now its
    Islam. All three are in the business of controlling people. The politicians
    as well as the various Priests or Mullahs went along with this, Henry the 8th
    took over the job of the Pope, and in the process grabbed their vast wealth
    in England.

    But as society has become better educated and some have stated to question
    the faiths, the politicians have had to invent something else to frighten us with
    so as usual they can then offer to save us, just as long as we vote for them.

    Try to read the Old Testament and the Koran, both have a lot of dire or scary
    stories which were and possibly still do, to frighten us with. The end of the
    World as per Climate Change is just another such means to scare us with.

    The name of the game has always been , and always will be about Power.

    MJE VK5ELL

  10. She’s losing it !

    “Teenager Thunberg angrily tells U.N. climate summit ‘you have stolen my dreams'”
    https://edmontonjournal.com/pmn/business-pmn/teenager-thunberg-angrily-tells-u-n-climate-summit-you-have-stolen-my-dreams/wcm/8acc541e-329e-4f68-9618-2965426d10df?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3PggD27LBVZUTNIl106j-Z5fc5i23

    ““This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be up here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean yet you all come to us young people for hope. How dare you?” said Thunberg, 16, her voice quavering with emotion.

    “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words,” she said.

    Now she blames “Denyers” for her choice to drop out of school ?…….D’OH !

    • Little Greta SHOULD be back in school, learning about photosynthesis and how plants use CO2, water, and sunshine to make food for all animals and people, and plants grow faster as more CO2 is added to the air. It’s the climate scaremongers who stole her dreams and her childhood for an apocalyptic fairy tale of mass extinction. She could be peacefully dreaming of a greener Sweden in the future.

  11. “Only A Monster Would Afflict Children With ‘Eco-Anxiety’”

    https://principia-scientific.org/only-a-monster-would-afflict-children-with-eco-anxiety/?fbclid=IwAR1x79iCAhMrmxtsHK7WUtE-9GsM_ecZNX1bVI6BXbTkMHd77CgSmS6r5L8

    “Sadly, once you realize Climate Change is a hoax wrapped in a left-wing political movement, this deliberate act of terrorizing children with lies, a lie every bit as audacious as saying a meteor will hit the earth in 12 years, is revealed as something truly insidious.”

    + 10,000 likes

  12. Low-level indoctrination crowds besides, no one can be fool to the point of opting for a 100% wind, solar or so feasible energy solution.

    It’s about money. Trainloads of it must change hand before reality takes it’s toll. Namely from taxpayers & captive consumers to volatile and mobile upper links of the foodchain.

    Therefore the urgency, rush and panic. All has to happen before facts become too prominent to conceal. All freedom and protest must be voided for this purpose.

    Grab as much while it lasts.

  13. The intellect behind renewable energy has all the depth of a balloon. Scratch the surface and see what happens.

    One of the more intellectually shallow ideas you hear is that “corporations” are standing in the way — like they wouldn’t benefit from trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending directed by government geniuses.

  14. Policies have been put into place that guarantee 3rd world countries will increase their emissions…
    …the argument is “it’s the only fair thing to do”

    Admitting the can’t grow their economies without fossil fuels…

    …there’s your answer

    and at the same time admitting increasing CO2 emissions is not dangerous

  15. Democrats have started showing their vile evil hypocritical nature in public debate recently. In their lust for gaining political power they are making it obvious to anyone actually listening to them that they could not care less about collateral environmental damage, killing endangered species, child slave labor, killing millions of working class jobs, or destroying the integrity and veracity of our institutions of Science, Media, Academia, Education, Commerce, Law, and even Religion.

    They don’t really even care about the Climate…their plans do next to nothing about the climate. They will not consider any technical fixes like nuclear energy. No, only plans that transfer wealth and power can be considered.

    I’m starting to hear more resistance and actual hate and disgust from working class individuals about the changes they’ve seen in the Democrat Party.

    • Well, why has America not replaced both the Republicans and the Democrats with new parties that serve the people?

      You know: democracy.

      America can have no complaints when you meekly vote for one of two branding options for the same product.

      Where is the Party saying:

      ‘cut military spending 50%, withdraw troops from Afghanistan and Iraq, stand down 50% of overseas military bases. Divert 50% of the money saved into domestic infrastructure projects to replace aging, creaking, damaged inventory.

      Introduce tax breaks for the bottom 30%, allowing tax deductibility of essential spending on food, clothing and accommodation up to specific caps. Remove all tax write offs for businesses that do not pay $9/hr to their lowest paid employees. Criminalise charitable organisations set up as fronts for familial tax avoidance.

      Provide tax incentives for new finance investment organisations to raise funds locally and invest funds locally, limiting geographies eligible to those >250 miles away from Wall Street.’

      Etc etc.

      I am not saying this is my manifesto, I am saying why is there not a choice open to Americans to vote for alternative parties with a manifesto like that?

      • Like most leftists, Rhys simply can’t understand why the vast majority of people aren’t as delusional as himself and his friends.

      • PS: The bottom 30% don’t pay anything in income taxes and haven’t for years.

        It would be a lot simpler to just raise the minimum wage to $9/hr. Why do leftists always try to invent convoluted schemes in order to get their idiocy passed? BTW, you are aware that the only people who benefit from a higher minimum wage are teenagers and college kids working part time jobs, and that everytime the minimum wage is raised, these low wage jobs disappear.

        Tax avoidance is already illegal, it’s just like most leftists, Rhys can’t tolerate it that rich people are allowed to keep the money that they earn.

        • I see that you are making a mistake. There is a difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Tax avoidance is when you refuse to participate in a taxable activity, for example alcohol distillation for beverage purposes. Tax evasion is what a Moon Shiner commits when alcohol is distilled and sold commercially, and the excise tax is not paid. You might see this as a small matter of language use, but is important. Avoidance is always legal, but evasion is not!

      • The top 5% pay 60% of the Fedreal taxes already. even with substantial tax expenditures, the top one percent of American taxpayers still pay an effective tax rate of 30 percent, on average, while the bottom 20 percent of the population pays an average of 3 percent.Apr 12, 2019
        Budget Basics: Who Pays Taxes?

  16. You’re only considering the supply side of the equation. Energy use remains hugely inefficient and can be greatly improved through insulation, technology choice, and generating power closer to source.
    Current means of energy production are also polluting and involve third world exploitation.

    • “Simon September 23, 2019 at 6:38 pm

      You’re only considering the supply side of the equation. Energy use remains hugely inefficient and can be greatly improved through insulation, technology choice, and generating power closer to source.”

      You mean like burning coal that DRAX sits on rather than importing wood chips form the the USA and burning that instead?

      “Current means of energy production are also polluting and involve third world exploitation.”

      Like rare earths for renewables being mined by slave child labour in Africa?

    • Simon, here’s my faved method of disrupting local energy discussion jam sessions.

      Sun, wind, renewables are clean, infinite and dirt cheap ? Hear the crowds extatically chant.
      We have to insulate, buy energy efficient things, spend money to save energy ? More ecstatic chants.

      So why should we spend hard earned cash on something that is clean, green, dirt cheap and infinite?

      And suddenly all goes silent.

    • People do what makes sense economically.
      Like most socialists, Simon wants everyone else to sacrifice so that he can feel better about himself.

    • Yeah, it all sounds so easy to you Simon. Just mix some technology-this with local-that, and POOF, you’ve solved all our energy problems. It’s just a matter of a bit of simple engineering, right? But then you don’t know anything about engineering, so of course you don’t understand why it won’t work. So it must be a conspiracy, or racism, or something that is preventing it from happening. It never occurs to you that your ignorance is the problem.

  17. “Which brings us to the dirtiest pseudo-renewable, pseudo-sustainable energy secret of all – the one these folks absolutely do not want to talk about: slave and child labor.”

    Democrats, and leftists in general, really don’t object much to slave labor and have a long history in that regard. We all know about the founders of the Democratic party being slave owners. One reason the Democrats started the Civil War was because they didn’t want to give up slaves. Some Democrats conspired to assassinate President Lincoln for the same reason and the later formed the KKK.

    Now it’s said that they are holding blacks in the inner cities as voter slaves and the same could be said of illegal immigrants. I think that Candace Owens explains this quite well, particularly in the following video. Start at about 1:30 or watch the whole thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cUQqPxw3hc

  18. So let’s suppose we blanket the United States with enough industrial-scale wind and solar facilities — well, dad burnit! There go all the bats and migratory birds that have ever lived on this continent! Prepare to be inundated with disease-carrying insects that you can’t get rid of, because they can mutate into insecticide-resistant varieties in one generation!

    Maybe we could just lock these geniuses who come up with this twaddle in the buildings they occupy and withhold the keys from them. Maybe weld the doors shut, so they can’t get out. Cut off their communications, and eventually, electricity, water, ventilation – wait, that’s just too much, isn’t it? Okay, just cut off their electricity and water. See how long they last.

  19. “MSNBC just hosted another two-day Democrat presidential candidates climate forum at Georgetown University”

    Climate forum? Or “how to spend gobs of other people’s money for no good reason” forum.

  20. We’re gonna need a lot of new steel mills and cement plants to make all those huge towers and foundations for millions of wind turbines. Oh, and more fossil fuels to power new electric plants and do the smelting and roasting. And of course new iron ore mines and limestone quarries. We’ve only got 12 years (or 18 months or whatever) to get this done and it takes years after capital is committed and permits obtained to bring a new steel mill, cement plant or large mine on line. Some one has to immediately make 100s of billions $$ available and remove all permitting procedures that delay construction of these facilities. We simply can’t have law suits or things like extensive environmental impact studies get in the way of building the facilities necessary to make a rapid transition to a fossil fuel free future.

    And don’t tell me we can just buy all this stuff from China. We have to use this opportunity to create the millions of high paying green jobs right here in the good ole USA. Miners, steelworkers and cement industry unionized works are the green jobs the GND will create.

  21. Are there really ever 7 straight sunless and windless days across the WHOLE of the USA?

    In reality you have to deal with this on a regional basis…

    And of course there will still be some hydro power and there are numerous other solutions apart from battery packs… pumped storage (including coal mine shafts and old mine ponds), gravity based storage, etc, etc

    this whole thing (and the preceding article) is just one huge straw man.

    • Idiot. If we divert power from other regions of the country to provide power in the cloudy region, then we create shortages in the sunny regions. Unless we mandate that each region has surplus capacity, which just compounds all the other problems with resource acquisition and manufacturing capacity (to name a few). Then the question becomes, how much surplus capacity do you need, 50%, 100%, more. Keep in mind that you need to have some surplus to recharge your storage systems as well. Creating a dependable energy delivery system based on intermittent sources that you can’t accurately predict output from is nearly impossible. If you are willing to put up with an unreliable energy delivery system, then you also have to face the consequences of that: additional human suffering and death.

      So which will it be, take the chance that maybe the earth will warm a few additional degrees C and maybe that will cause some additional human suffering and death, or mass implementation of “renewable” power to (possibly) avert the warming and guarantee additional human suffering and death? Personally I bet that human innovation will find a way to cope with a little warming (if it happens). We’ve overcome multiple “insurmountable” problems in the past, and we will again, if needed.

    • So we pump water downhill into mineshafts and when we need power it flows uphill into the generators? You really think these things through, don’t you?

  22. I have tried to post this on Bishop Hill, our UK home site, but for some reason I am unable to post because the spam filter is not working for me. I am concerned that the BBC is shredding its reputation as a worldwide news organisation that can be trusted.
    Yesterday morning I complained to the BBC about an article by Matt McGrath which was published on 22 September headlined ‘Climate change: Impacts “accelerating” as leaders gather for UN talks’. The article as published originally may be found by inserting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49773869 in the Wayback Machine and viewing one of the snapshots on 22 September. This is how the article starts: “The signs and impacts of global heating are speeding up, the latest science on climate change, published ahead of key UN talks in New York, says.”

    Some time yesterday after I had complained to the BBC the text on the website was changed. “Heating” was replaced with “Warming” and the first sentence became: “The signs and impacts of global warming are speeding up, the latest science on climate change, published ahead of key UN talks in New York, says.” There is no explanation why the word has been changed from heating to warming.

    This was the text of my complaint which has not been acknowledged by the BBC.

    “Mr McGrath has misreported the WMO press release to which he refers in his report. The WMO makes no mention of “global heating” as McGrath asserts but refers to further “global warming”. Why has the BBC started using an overtly alarmist political word such as “heating” when the WMO did not? McGrath is clearly following the lead of the Guardian which on 17 May 2019 published an update to its style guide:

    “The Guardian has updated its style guide to introduce terms that more accurately describe the environmental crises facing the world.
    Instead of “climate change” the preferred terms are “climate emergency, crisis or breakdown” and “global heating” is favoured over “global warming”, although the original terms are not banned.”

    Worrying times for people who trust the BBC as a reliable, unbiased worldwide news organisation. As a matter of interest, George Orwell worked for the BBC in WW2.

    • You should have given up trusting the BBC on 9/11.

      The BBC now overtly discriminates against white men. It is partisan about the EU, climate change. It is on message where habitual lying about the Middle East is concerned.

      And as for sport, it is a gravy train for overseas jollies, vastly overpaying and overmanning major event reportage teams so that the in crowd can run up huge expenses at the taxpeyers expense.

  23. Excellent article, Mr. Driessen. I’m not sure why it had the impact it did, but starting with the left’s hatred of mining generally and then moving on to exactly how that mining is occurring in poorer countries was effective. It might even convince a, say, second-grade teacher who has been unwittingly pushing climate change nonsense on her charges to reconsider what she’s advocating. In other words, your article could provoke thought in some key constituencies. It should be shared widely.

    Also, Al Gore and his ilk manage to use just a few, sometimes even faked, pictures to influence millions about global warming. The stranded polar bear being just one example. And yet, today there are pictures of real examples of the tortures of child labor discussed in your article. Might they have an equally strong influence on the argument, especially given that they are real and illustrate humans, and children at that, enduring the suffering. You should consider including them.

  24. This reminds me of the old Steve Martin bit, “You can be a millionaire and not pay any taxes. First, get yourself a million dollars.”

    The Green Nude Eelers chant would be, “You can be a green, sustainable planet. First, get yourself a few million windmills and solar panels.”

    There is no silver bullet. Life is a tradeoff.

  25. The whole problem with greenhouse gas emissions from energy production will be solved when (and only when) there is an energy source made available that is both cheaper than coal and just as reliable. When that occurs you won’t need global convocations of self righteous politicians. Solar and wind will never meet this criteria because as they become a larger portion of our energy, the storage costs skyrocket. The more likely outcome will be more use of natural gas. Of course, nuclear power would meet the “cheaper than coal and just as reliable” criterion. During the 1970’s carbon emissions decline as nuclear was rolled out. In fact, this whole crisis (real or not) would have been avoided except for the totally paranoid, phobic opposition to nuclear power. Nuclear is so expensive in the US because each new plant has to meet ever tightening safety regulations in spite of a near perfect safety record.

  26. OK, you convinced me that the lefties are not friends to the miners. But are the right wingers any better? Is there any politician who actually stands up for the men who go underground to dig ore? Being pals with a rich mine owner is not the same as being friends with a miner.

  27. “Well, why has America not replaced both the Republicans and the Democrats with new parties that serve the people?

    You know: democracy.”

    It is not ‘well’. The word ‘democracy’ does not appear anywhere in our founding documents. Our founding fathers regarded democracy as abhorrent and the tyranny of the majority. The minority could become ruled by tyrants and they had just defeated tyranny.

    We are a Republic (thank God). We will always be a republic. Progressives want to eliminate personal freedom. There is a growing list of words that are politically correct and ideas that are disapproved. Meanwhile, there are superstitions abounding that are accepted and promoted by progressives who want to shut down 80% of the energy production in America. 80% of the energy in our country comes from fossil fuels. It cannot be replaced with solar and wind.

    Back in the 1940s when I was in school, our day began with the Pledge of Allegiance and a prayer. Today, we have public schools establishing prayer rooms so Mustafah can pray with hos Koran. Billy is no supposed to have a Bible in school. We had a rifle range under the stage in school. We sent our targets toother schools and they sent theirtargets to us. We scored each other’s targets. These were not pellet rifles. They were Winchester Model 52 rifles and they were very accurate. We rode to school on bicycles and put our shotguns in the shop teachers’s locker during the day. Then we hunted our way home after school.

    We will get those rights back after the adjustment. You do realize that we have an adjustment coming, right?

  28. I believe renewable energy will be great just as soon as they can figure out how to make a nonpolluting version. Example:

    [quote]

    A Wyoming landfill is burying massive fiberglass wind turbine blades in a huge unlined pit because they’re not recyclable, and there’s no other good use for them.

    At least three wind farms in the state are scraping more than 900 old environmentally unfriendly blades that will be sawed into pieces and hauled to the Casper Regional Landfill over the next year.

    Casper Solid Waste Manager Cynthia Langston told KGWN the facility is the only one in the state big enough to handle the massive blades, which are expected to take hundreds of years to degrade.

    [full story at link]

  29. “We would need something on the order of one billion 100-kilowatt-hour, 1,000-pound lithium and cobalt-based battery packs – similar to what Tesla uses in its electric vehicles. (This does not include the extra battery storage required to charge up the cars, trucks and buses we are supposed to replace with EVs.)

    All these batteries would support the millions and millions of Green New Deal solar panels and wind turbines we would have to build and install. They would require prodigious amounts of iron, copper, rare earth metals, concrete and other raw materials. And every one of these batteries, turbines and panels would have to be replaced far more often than coal, gas, nuclear or hydroelectric power plants.

    Indeed, what are we going do with all those worn-out and broken-down turbines, panels and batteries? The International Renewable Energy Agency has said disposing of just the worn out solar panels that the UN wants erected around the world by 2050, under the Paris Climate Treaty’s solar energy goals, could result in two times the tonnage of the United States’ total plastic waste in 2017!”

    _____________________________________________

    It’s worse than in said

    “disposing of just the worn out solar panels that the UN wants erected around the world by 2050, under the Paris Climate Treaty’s solar energy goals, could result in two times the tonnage of the United States’ total plastic waste in 2017!”

    ::

    https://www.google.com/search?q=problems+recycling+Windelecs+blades&oq=problems+recycling+Windelecs+blades+&aqs=chrome.

  30. commieBob September 23, 2019 at 4:26 pm

    If you’re really into energy conservation, you can build a house that requires next to no heating. Of course, you have to be careful not to suffocate.,
    ________________________________________

    South African narratives – replace

    “noxious carbon dioxide, which is heavier than pure air and sinks to the bottom.”

    with

    “noxious carbon MONOXIDE, which is heavier than pure air and sinks to the bottom.”

    https://www.google.com/search?q=carbon+monoxide&oq=carbon+mono&aqs=chrome.

    and you get

    – South Africa’s real problems; and too

    – why, in small cabins next open fires, we always should sleep in beds

    ::

    “The advent of the phantom Tokoloshe came about through indigenous South African[disambiguation needed] folklore to explain why people inexplicably died while sleeping in the their rondavels at night.
    Traditionally, these Africans slept on the floor on grass mats encircling a wood fire that kept them warm during sub-freezing cold winter nights on the highveld in the rarified air. They never realized the fire was depleting the oxygen levels, leaving noxious carbon dioxide, which is heavier than pure air and sinks to the bottom.

    Eventually it was realized that anyone who happened to be sleeping in an elevated position escaped the deadly curse of Tokoloshe, which was described as a short man about hip high who randomly stole one’s life in the night unless they were lifted to the height of their bed.

    “Some Zulu people (and other southern African tribes) are still superstitious when it comes to things like the supposedly fictional tokoloshe—a hairy creature created by a witch doctor to harm his enemies (also … known to rape women and bite off sleeping people’s toes).”[1]

    According to legend, the only way to keep the Tokoloshe away at night is to put a brick beneath each leg of one’s bed.

    However, this will not protect anything but the person whose bed it is along with the bed itself, as it may instead cause havoc not involving said people. They get their power from a hot poker thrust into the crown of the body during creation.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikoloshe

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