Essay by Eric Worrall
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s green campaign to shut down all private sector New Zealand export industries appears to be succeeding.
Jacinda Ardern is losing support in NZ, but can the PM’s international star power save her?
By Emily Clark in Auckland
Posted Yesterday at 5:05am, updated 23h agoJacinda Ardern is polling at her lowest level since becoming Prime Minister as cost-of-living pressures squeeze New Zealand households and the shine of her COVID-19 response wears off.
Key points:
- NZ’s Opposition says Kiwis are facing a cost-of-living crisis, and analysts say it is impacting support for the PM
- Ms Ardern’s government now has less support than the National Party, according to recent polling
- Analysts say the key issues at next year’s election will be the economy and inequality
New Zealand’s last election was at the end of 2020 when Ms Ardern and the Labour Party won a clear majority — something that had not happened since the country changed its voting system.
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In the most recent 1News/Kantar poll, support for New Zealand’s Labour government had dropped to 33 per cent, which is behind the opposition National Party, which is sitting on 37 per cent.
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“I would definitely say there’s a discrepancy between brand Ardern on the international stage and what New Zealanders think,” she said.
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When Labour retained office with a sweeping victory in 2020, analysts noted Ms Ardern had picked up National voters who were in favour of the “fortress New Zealand” COVID strategy and who were “rallying around the flag”.
In that election, New Zealanders who had never before voted for Labour swung to support Ms Ardern.
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The ‘business guy’ Opposition Leader
Until recently, the opposition in New Zealand appeared ineffective and plagued by infighting, but with Christopher Luxon at the helm, the National Party has been enjoying a period of relative stability and increasing support.
“National has gone through a bit of a renewal,” Dr Greaves said.
“National has framed inflation as the ‘cost-of-living crisis’ …so they’ve managed to frame it not as an issue that’s about inequality, but an issue about economic management.
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I’m not kidding about Ardern’s government attempting to shut down all income generating industry.
Jacinda Ardern shutting down agriculture – in June this year she introduced a methane meat tax, and acquiescing to green demands to limit the size of livestock herds.
Jacinda Ardern shutting down manufacturing, promising “the government will not hold back” with their ambitious emissions reduction target.
Jacinda Ardern shutting down mining, like her bill to shut down offshore Vanadium mining. Vanadium is a key green mineral, one of the few possible theoretical routes to building affordable city scale battery backup systems is Vanadium flow batteries. But a lot more Vanadium will be required to ever make this a possibility.
Jacinda Ardern shutting down tourism – do I need to provide a reference? We all know about Jacinda Ardern’s fortress New Zealand Covid lockdowns, even stricter than Australia. She did apparently make an exception for the super rich – über rich elites in 2020 flocked to their underground New Zealand survivalist bunkers, to escape the Covid outbreak in their home countries. If you think that the slopes of one of the world’s largest super volcano complexes is an interesting choice for an apocalypse bunker, you are not alone.
Did I miss anything? If I did, I’m sure Ardern and her green allies have a plan to shut it down. Except for the public sector, which is rapidly increasing its head count of bureaucrats who earn at least six figures. And the owners of those apocalypse bunkers seem happy with their choice.
But Ardern is very popular on the world stage, where she keeps telling her globalist fans about all the New Zealand export industries she is shutting down.
Now, big surprise, Ardern supporters are discovering their money doesn’t buy much anymore. I mean, who could have seen that coming?
There are reports that she is in transit to the UN in New York you are welcome to her
She is on the first non stop Auckland to NY flight. Hope she’s told the truth by the passengers.
Perhaps she will be flying on an electric plane that must stop and recharge every 200 miles
Please, let it be a one-way ticket.
Don’t dump your problems on us.
If you keep this us we’ll have to send you Al Gore.
He’s too old. Since she is so young, we’ll give them Hunter.
great a drug addled wanna be pedo for a horsed faced cow both lying scum, why not breed them and send the offspring to be PM of Canada, come to think of it shes already hooked up with a druggy they are prefect for each other
would be praying her plane breaks down and she gets stranded somewhere they really dont appreciate her
“Jacinda Ardern shutting down mining, like her bill to shut down offshore Vanadium mining.”
She has made no such proposal. What you have linked is a screed by the chief promoter of the proposal objecting to a private member’s bill put by Debbie Ngarewa-Packer of the Maori party. That bill does not have enough support to be debated by the Parliament.
But there are other seabed mining projects being sunk.
Ultimately you can not make things with renewable energy and you can’t make renewable plant without coal or more generally FF.
The blind are beginning to understand this, and in Germany, they have a speed learning program before them.
“But there are other seabed mining projects being sunk.”
So to speak. But by whom?
“So to speak”
Try:
The Project Overview – Chatham Rock Phosphatehttp://www.rockphosphate.co.nz
Our green influenced government of idiots is actively going to stop offshore high quailty and low radioactivity, low cadmium phosphate mining proposals at a time when the world is crying out for fertiliser. The UN is welcome to her! The sooner she goes the better.
I have a sample of this ore on my desk and it’s high quality stuff.
That application was refused by the EPA on the grounds of its damaging environmental effect. They seem to have good reasons – the decision is set out here.
In any case, that happened in 2015. The National Party was in power, not Labour, and of course Jacinda Ardern was not PM, or even party leader.
And just what are the “good reasons”.
The NZ Labour party has been actively anti-mining for almost half a century with commodities ranging from gold, silver, iron and titanium, and coal being on the hit list. Adern is just the latest in long line of environmental zealots (ryhmes with idiots).
However, they are happy to allow the import by diesel ships of Indonesian coal to fuel electricity generation as they are surprisingly just realising that their ban on offshore gas will mean we haven’t got that much left! This to fuel a power station sitting on a wealth of undeveloped excellent quality coal.
Nz has imported coal from the world’s largest coal exporter ,Indonesia, during the time of the previous National government too.
They export their own higher grade metallurgical grade coal as well. Just the open cast thermal mines don’t supply enough for the diary factories why dry milk into milk powder and the last remaining thermal coal power station.
The previous National PM told the Paris climate conference that the country was committed to 30% less by 2030….again even before Ardern was leader.
They followed that up by voting unanimously for the laws in 2020 to implement 30% less by 2030 and indeed the next step , nett zero by 2050 . Did I mention unanimously supported by the conservative national party .
daft bint will be supporting fonterras new idea to brew fake milk as well I bet
another way to screw the dairy farms into oblivion
The devil will welcome you with open arms when your time comes.
@ Nick Stokes
I prefer Hades
There are nice naughty ladies
And the pubs aren’t all shut by eleven.
Yes, Hades sounds appealing.
However, the drinks glasses have no bottoms.
The same as the naughty ladies.
Valhalla seems like a better place.
The fact that Stokes said it means that it is not true. I now am completely convinced that Ardern is trying to shut down offshore vanadium mining.
Happened before Ardern was PM. The application to mine offshore was refused by an independent body , a decision I don’t agree with.
The gold mining extension was refused by a Green party minister ,as part of their power to decline, but later over ridden by two more senior labour ministers
https://www.1news.co.nz/2019/10/08/labours-reversal-on-eugenie-sages-waihi-mine-decision-shows-green-partys-lack-of-ministerial-power-greenpeace/
It’s okay she can play the Julia Gillard female card and blame everything on old white males.
And now pouring megadollars into a regenerative pastoral farming experiment. The process has already destroyed Sri Lanka’s economy. More of her virtue signalling and ignoring the advice of a wide range of New Zealand’s most prominent agricultural soil scientists.
The sooner the peasants starve to death, the happier she’ll be.
That’s the plan.
shes a WEF young leader so to be expected
To use the phrase Neil Oliver says is being used by green elitists – “Useless eaters”.
Ardern and her government also epitomise the authoritarian excesses of the woke left, with the recent banning of an Australian journalist coming in to cover protests through the misuse of police and Interpol resources making many Kiwis very uncomfortable. Further, there has been a massive transferal of wealth (and power) to the government (and minority Maori), under the Three Waters legislation, an erosion of democratic input into the health system, and a total failure to perform on some of the big ticket items promised in the last two elections.
Kiwi MP Winston Peters appeared on Sky News Australia a few days ago and warned us to look with extreme caution at what NZ Labour, PM Ardern, is doing dividing the nation with Maori focused legislation that once in place would be almost impossible to repeal.
Mr Peters is a New Zealand Maori politician and he and his party formed an alliance government with Ardern Labour to put her in power.
He said that the NZ media have not been handling this in a professional manner and as a result many citizens are not aware or are only vaguely aware of the objectives.
Winston Peters is the grubby politician who put his own interests ahead of NZ’s when he did a deal with Ardern to put Labor into power after losing his own seat. He used the quota NZ First got from the MMP to stay in Parliament. He lost big time last election when NZ First did not get enough votes for a quota for even a single member so the grub could not hold on to his role as Foreign Minister. He put Ardern in power and my Kiwi family members have kept her there. As far as I am concerned, they deserve what they get. The upside is that the Kiwis prepared to actually work for a living will come to Australia. Hopefully they will become citizens as our family has and, learning from the NZ experience, don’t vote Labor or Green. Probably too late though for us all.
Under MMP electoral system every government (except2020) has had the smaller parties put them in power. It what happens when the number of mps matches the actual votes the receive. There is no distribution of preferences
Unlike Australia where labour or liberal get a majority with underb40% or the vote. Or people become senators with under 1000 primary votes.
“Did I miss anything?”
Yes, you did.
The biggest shock of all was to ban new offshore hydrocarbon prospecting. Even if a future government reverses this madness her ban has forever damaged NZ’s overseas reputation as a safe place to invest.
There was done overnight with no consultation with the companies, citizens or residents who might benefit from this investment. Never a hint of this in her election manifesto. She has learnt well from her socialist idols.
that was a pure publicity stunt with close to zero impact in reality. There are no potential reserves big enough that companies would be interested in spending money. Thus Labour got to look like they cared about the enviornment without actually doing anything to save it.
Well, I guess you can say with 100% certainty that if you don’t allow companies to look they will then certainly find nothing. But, hey, let’s give them a chance…they’re the experts and won’t spend their shareholers money if there’s no prospect of a find.
Government zealots…keep your fingers out of other people’s business; especially one that you know absolutely zero about!
Of course, you’re right.
But we live in an era where elementary logic is ignored.
The existing explorers had given up their licenses well before Ardern became PM
That was because the big drop in oil prices from 2014 or so.
NZ was essentially a low success drilling area , only done when profits were ultra high. I have photo of family members and ‘dry well’ around 1890 , not very deep of course but some flow and not a commercial quanity
NZ fields tend to be gas rich rather than oil rich. With the current geopolitical situation I would think that exploration would be likely…but not under this government and probably never again as our reputation has been wrecked.
Not many possible places that havent been test drilled already . Over 1000 for the country and offshore
You are a clown Izaak Walton,
Yes it was a publicity stunt but these decisions should be made by Parliament not by the Prime minister off the cuff
We still live in a democracy but this socialist government thinks that they know what is best for us .
There is plenty of deep water oil and gas off our shores ,it just has to be found .
Ardern banned all new exploration .
The sooner she goes to the useless UN the better off New Zealand will be .
Jacinda Ardern was the President of the Young Socialists Union when she was elected PM of New Zealand .There is a recording of her speech to them with her using the word COMRADES 15 times .
Not necessary for decision to be made by parliament. Its an ‘executive decision’ by cabinet
Your knowledge of local exploration history is very marginal, like the chances of finding oil/gas
Not sure if you are NZ based, but you are so wrong. One it meant any new exploration was instantly banned and it meant a lot of companies looking to NZ are not even bothering to do DD.
Incorrect. Those existing permit holders could still drill. None did and indeed many gave up their permits after the 2014 oil price slump long before Ardern was MP
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99313380/us-oil-giant-anadarko-set-to-leave-new-zealand
Reminds me of another small Island nation. I wonder if the inevitable rioters will attack her abode.
Revival of the head hunters?
Might be the reason why she’s trying so hard to buy the support of the Māori tribes. She’s not afraid to get white people angry. But Māori people…
The next election is due by January 2024- nearly a year and a quarter. The Kiwis were stupid enough to vote for her-or did they really? They use Dominion software-dial a winner.
Kiwi patriots need to wake up a lot of people-deliver propaganda vaccines.
They do not use Dominion software. All votes are counted by hand.
Even the postal votes….
Supports a country viewed as going politically insane…Going postal
Very very tiny number postal . It’s essentially all votes in person,” postal” are those who vote out of their electorate at a polling booth and election staff post them to their electorate for hand counting.
Local council’s are postal voting but done in different year to government
Add the Winston Peters party alliance agreement with Ardern Labour.
According to his recent interview on Sky News Australia he regrets that decision.
I know Winston Peters from when he was a National MP in the 1980s .
He got offside with National and formed his own Party New Zealand First .
Many people voted for New Zealand First in the 2017 general election thinking that he would go with National who had more votes than Labour .
He should have but he formed a government with Labour and the Greens .
At the 2020 general election he and his party were annihilated not winning a seat .
Most sensible New Zealanders regret his decision as this socialist government is damaging our countries economy .
Show me any country in the world that has restricted t their exports and flourished .
No damage to economy. Unemployment lowest ever, gdp rebound after Covid lockdowns very strong.
Have you asked why the opposition national party when in government told Paris climate conference that nz was going for 30% reduction in CO2 by 2030, and when in opposition also voted for Nett Zero. Mr Key loved the world stage
As much as I disdain this Government, I see no evidence at all that elections here are anything but honest. The absolute majority handed to Labour at the last election was more a product of (hopefully) temporary insanity on a large part of the electorate – due largely to the panic inspired by all the fearmongering and political spin over Covid. Prior to that, they were well on the way to being ousted, according to pre-Covid polling. What is now becoming abundantly apparent, is that they are incapable of delivering anything of any value, but are very capable of causing chaos restructuring existing systems based solely on ideological prejudices. Not to mention igniting a race based class war.
The more she can kill off of NZ´s population the happier she get´s!
Impressive apostrophe abuse
No worse than your period abuse!
Her party was on 48% only 18 months ago.
That’s very high. A tribute to the excellent way they managed Covid.
What you are seeing is that well-tested political principle of “Regression to the Mean”.
A year ago the Chinese were said to have managed Covid excellently. Look at them now.
Mrs Arden’s policies have left NZ with a population with low Covid resistance. It will come back to haunt them.
What really would have been an excellent way of managing Civid can be understood from this:
https://joannenova.com.au/2022/09/ivermectin-reduces-deaths-by-92-for-10-cents-a-week/
Wow, a treatment the works as opposed to a treatment, the pseudo vaccines, that were/are much more expensive and work less well.
When I caught the China Virus this Jan. I, being a diabetic and 65 years of age, took Hydroxychloroquine. I knew my son had the Chinavirus and was coming to visit, so started 2 days before I was exposed.
Run and hide from the virus, not me. My wife and I have traveled 8000 miles across the US and back the last 2 years during the “pandemic”, never having seen a sick person.
We tried to only go to places that did not enforce any mask mandate, we did find some small family type places in most states. We would call first to see their policy, first the official, then if they would hassle us if we didn’t were the crap.
The main result I see form the scam is that the level of customer service almost everywhere we went is way worse than we have ever experienced in our lives. It is like businesses have been given permission to be jerks, so they are.
Also, McD’s for example learned they could make MORE money keepingtheir inside dining closed, no need to clean the interior and restrooms, so less employees, so some kept the inside closed far past the state mandates. In Nevada some allowed people inside to buy food, but still blocked off the dining areas, not allowing you to sit down to eat.
It already did.
New Zealand COVID-19 Death Rate 1500% Of The Global Average | Real Climate Science
What utter hogwash. NZ’s deaths per million 556. The world average 834.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Seems your graph is only for one week. How very selective of you….
Good catch . They are so dumb these misinformation spreaders
“On 30 January 2008, at 27, Ardern was elected president of the International Union of Socialist Youth (IUSY) at their world congress in the Dominican Republic for a two-year term until 2010. The role saw her spend time in several countries, including Hungary, Jordan, Israel, Algeria and China. It was mid-way through her presidency term that Ardern became a list MP for the Labour Party. She then continued to manage both roles for the next 15 months.”
Following the link I expected to see one of these, being reminded of a scene from the TV series Breaking Bad where Jesse Pinkman and his girlfriend excitedly discuss how they can escape with the money to New Zealand where they made Lord of the Rings and where they ‘have all those castles and sh1t’.
Now, big surprise, Ardern supporters are discovering their money doesn’t buy much anymore. I mean, who could have seen that coming?
Climate changers just print some more when they’ve really stuffed it up-
Sweden, Finland step in to avert Lehman-like situation for power companies (msn.com)
It’s called sustainability. Theirs!
Step 1: create a problem.
Step 2: activate a “solution” that makes more problems.
The democracies of the developed world are, by their own choice, circling the drain. 🕳
You forgot the most important step, 3. Throw huge sums of money for the solution that does not work making sure it gets distributed to the major doners.
I remember New Zealand lamb….
Do you still send her flowers?
A lot of American troops being transported in Royal Navy ships did not like the mutton they got for dinner day after day.
Fancy that. UK was under submarine blockade during WW2 and still had to import a lot of food. Also agriculture back then was manpower intensive , and men were needed for the military so women was semi drafted to work on farms (as well as factory’s) US had nothing like the manpower and food shortage esthe UK went through
Must be mutton by now.
Her polling here in NZ is half what international pollsters are finding for one V. Putin in his home country. Taking into account all her international glad-handing, it appears that – “I am Jacinda Ardern, what is your hobby?” is her attitude. Also, remember that, in her earlier life, she was the world president of the International Union of Socialist Youth, and remains a rabid centraliser of power as well as firm believer in the forthcoming climate disaster. Alongside her new Australian mate, we down under are in for a rough ride.
National party voted 100% for Arderns Zero Carbon Bill. They haven’t walked back on that either. It’s like the UK where it’s that major parties all following the same path
Aside from a few atypical cultural issues, two countries I once could say, I know you. Australia and New Zealand. Then came 2020, and still today I don’t recognize the countries, they’ve gone so authoritarian.
Canada’s Justin Trudeau probably grinds his teeth in his sleep wishing he could have gotten away with what Australia did with covid camps. When all he could manage was enacting the old war measures act to bully Canada’s truckers protesting their covid restrictions at the near end of the lock-down game.
Covid authoritarianism brought on the GND authoritarianism with a rush. So much so, that a large portion of the population haven’t even noticed. Today’s authoritarianism being much the same as yesterdays, never mind the agenda.
When in the future are we going to have a government that isn’t authoritarian, now that authoritarianism has achieve western acceptance?
The next lockdown will be harder, faster and more totalitarian. Practice makes perfect.
I pray that by then that the electorate will have revolted from the knee jerk Party faithful club mentality towards actually seeking pragmatic policy measures to our issues from our politicians who say they want to represent us, and that rights and freedoms are held utmost in the minds of future bureaucrats. Not sociopolitical agenda’s. 🤞🤞🤞
This happens when you have an election system that does not restrict candidates to those who are competent, experienced and have gained some wisdom from working in the real world.
The primary qualification tends to be the greener they are the better – and wet behind the ears. No candidate should be allowed to run before they have proved themselves for a number of years in real jobs (not government jobs or NGOs). This would disqualify most Western politicians but we could actually not do worse than the present political muppets.
There is a kind of irony in Ireland. The popularity of the Green Party has fallen to 2% but because of the election system and being part of the governing coalition they are still the tail that wags the dog. If this was Paris 1792 their leader would be having a tryst with Madame Guillotine.
That would be ideal.
But just as a starter, I’d be happy to see candidates running a whelk stall for 6 months without poisoning their customers or going broke.
Few of the current UK team would even know what a whelk stall is.
Down here in the Land of Oz, our notoriously far left Australian Broadcasting Commission (ABC) has recently run an article stating that “Experts have said” that August in NZ was the hottest since records commenced in 1906.
Can one of you knowledgeable Kiwis please let me know if this is true?
The reasons for my skepticism are:
I saw that artical and it is bunkum .
Here in the North Island we have had more frosts thn we have had for the last 20 years .
They were not severe but still frosts .
This morning Christchurch has a light dusting of snow and it is now early spring .
Roads are closed with snow in the North and South Islands .
We have had La Nina weather patterns for the last 2 years with no tropical cyclones reaching New Zealand which is a regular occurrence in summer and autumn .
A lot of rain from the tropics has wreaked havoc mainly in the South Island in the last three months ,
We have not had much southerly weather so that is why they are saying it has been warmer .
They have adjusted down the temperatures. From before 1970;or so
It’s a common theme around the world , makes the small increase which has happened. Since then. Look Much bigger
I live in NZ. I saw snow on the ground this morning where I live (in the North Island) and my place is about 150m above sea level. That is not unprecedented but does not happen often. I could say its the coldest September day in x amount of years. Its freezing. Snow to low levels on the hills too. Looks like global warming to me.
Don’t you just hate having to go out and shovel all that Global Warming™ off the driveway?
Image is everything! Jacinda Arden is a pretty woman. Nothing more.
Do you spend time around race tracks, stables by any chance?
Ha Ha LoL!!
It;s either that or DHR has shares in a teeth whitening franchise.
A horse is a horse, of course of course…
“Image is everything! Jacinda Arden is a pretty woman. Nothing more.”
What an idiotic sexist comment. If you can’t see how politically clever she is then you are blind. You don’t have to agree with her policies to see she is a sharp politician. For the record I thought Key was pretty clever too.
I sort of agree with you – for once – except, sooner or later, even the most adroit politician has to deliver something of value. Crickets there. But also take a look around her. Between the “Maori Caucus”, and the largely incompetent bunch of supercilious losers in support roles, the bloating up of the bureaucracy, and the ideologically driven Globalist agenda, the current Government is out of touch with the Electorate. The only good thing is, that they are completely incapable of delivering on any of it in any case. But they are capable of creating chaos and destruction, and boy are they delivering on that! maybe that was the plan all along!
Simon is excited that Jacinda Ardern is “politically clever “….. Not honest or intelligent …just ‘clever ” . In the Machiavellian sense ?…….. Ardern actually worked in the Blair Labor Home Office and the bureaus ‘review into policing about the time British Labor governments – and the widely reviled British police – were ignoring and covering up industrial scale Islamic rape gangs in northern United Kingdom towns and cities .until the lid was lifted off in 2013 .. It is established fact the Home Office was aware of the Rotheram abuses as early as 2003 and did nothing ..Has anyone ever questioned the woke radical feminist Ardern on what she knew and when ?……. She has never to my knowledge spoken out in support of the Iranian “My Stealthy Freedom ” hijab discarders but she has donned the garment for public appearances …..If Ardern is not preoccupied with image and stagecraft why did she enshroud herself in a garment Muslim women in theocratic regimes are forced to wear ?..Who is the idiotic sexist and how blind are you Simon ?
I have seen her close up, in an airport lounge. She is not pretty. Very haggard looking and her skin is very crepe looking. Ugly best describes her.
“Ugly best describes her….. and your mind.
Look for the air brushing. everything around JA is spin, no substance
There is nothing wrong with Jacinda’s policies, so long as you are a self identified Maori transgender lesbian vegan, with the hots for Karl Marx.
For the rest of us things are becoming increasingly frustrating.
New Zealand leading the way! Imagine that. She may think she is playing on the world stage but that may be collapsing under the weight of reality.
Jacinda Ardern admits Highly Vaccinated New Zealand is losing the COVID battle because the Jabs don’t work – The Expose (expose-news.com)
If you are going to post a fake statement (she did not admit any such thing)at least post a link that backs it up.
Many have become followers of the “Green Dream” because it felt good.
Now that they are beginning to actually feel it, they’re waking up.
“Surprise! Climate Warrior NZ PM Jacinda Ardern’s Popularity is Collapsing”You are such an alarmist Eric. Her popularity is hardly collapsing….
I note you didn’t mention her personal popularity numbers compared to Luxons? Shall I? She is at 30% and Luxon at 22%. And Luxon has a long way to go before he earns his stripes. He’s made a couple of basic errors lately that only a greenhorn would. Don’t get me wrong he may well be the next prime minister, but he is by no means a shoe in.
And I don’t think there is any surprise the shine is coming off the Labour party. They have been through some pretty tough times (global gas prices and inflation)and they have been the government for the last two election cycles. Democracy has a way of ensuring that, even with all things being equal, the people look for change after a while.
It’s an unquestionable fact that her party’s approval rating is extremely low and the opposition is well ahead. There is about a year until the next election and the question has got to be whether she can turn it round in that short time.
It’s also an unquestionable fact her popularity is well ahead of the other guy.
Everything I’ve seen refutes what you say. What information is available to you that is unavailable to everyone else? Can you back up what you say?
OMG google NZ leadership poles. Then read.
That may be question but there is no doubt she could eat an apple through a chain link fence.
Ha! She isolated and oppressed the citizens during COVID and then when they finally opened up what was bound to happen did and New Zealand sky rocketed right near the top of the list in morbidity and mortality from COVID.
New Zealand COVID-19 Death Rate 1500% Of The Global Average | Real Climate Science
Then there is the plan to tax but burps and farts of ruminants.
New Zealand’s Plan To End Bad Weather | Real Climate Science
BTW in case you didn’t know, White Castle Hamburger patties come from New Zealand. This trucker picked up a full refer trailer load of those frozen patties at the docks in Philly and transported them to White Castle processing facility in Vandalia, OH.
Yawn …. do you guys just sit round and send fake data to each other?
NZ is well below the world average. Here you can check for yourself…
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
To put that in perspective, NZ has had 2779 deaths total. It has slightly greater population than Alabama, which has had 20203 deaths. It’s not surprising that NZ liked Jacinda’s management.
New Zealand with 5 million is an ISOLATED ocean-based nation while Alabama is surrounded by several states with over 42 million people and the reported death rate has been shown too many times to be misleading to be sure how many actually died by the virus itself as the CDC are on record saying that just 6% of all claimed COVID-19 deaths are directly caused by the virus.
Your claim is a classic misleading narrative.
“New Zealand with 5 million is an ISOLATED ocean-based nation while Alabama is surrounded by several states with over 42 million people” and had a president who actively did nothing to stop the spread in the early days and lied to his people about the threat, from fear of it affecting his re-election chances (Well that didn’t work)…..
Unlike the NZ leader, who listened to the science and acted swiftly. And, now we can all see the end result. Trump led his people to the slaughter and Adern probably saved 10’s of thousands. No contest.
“who listened to the science”
T. V. Inglesby, et al. (2006) Disease Mitigation Measures in the Control of Pandemic Influenza
Read the paper, Simon. The hard-won wisdom from past viral epidemics and pandemics shows that the official response to Covid was exactly inverted from best practice.
Ardern didn’t listen to the science. She assaulted the science.
She could not have responded more badly if she had tried. And I believe she tried, these WEF babies.
Don’t be silly. Quarantine comes from the iltalian language in Venetian times , 40 days they put ships from the East in isolation.
Your paper is junk science
Your comment is junk nonsense, Duker; exceeding the standing of ordinary nonsense.
“Isolated” doesn’t matter in the jet age . Some Pacific islands like Tahiti have far higher death rates per capital than nz.
Actually it was Australia which led the way in closing borders and NZ just followed.
Actually, you are the one lying because Trump and his administration placed restriction of traveling from China early on while the democrats early on were attacking him for it and other measures in the early date, Biden said Trump was being xenophobic and Pelosi keeps stating to go visit stores and more without any concern for Corona virus even as late as APRIL three months after Trumps administration declared a public health emergency.
From NPR:
Trump Declares Coronavirus A Public Health Emergency And Restricts Travel From China
January 31, 2020
LINK
Yep he did one good thing. But all the time he was telling the people it would all be gone soon….. but it wasn’t and his advisors were telling him there was a major problem. But Trump doesn’t listen to those who know better than him.
And let’s face it, stopping the travel from China was a political stunt to appease the racists who support him. When you are in shite, find an enemy to hate. Classic Trump strategy.
Depends on how Covid deaths are counted. In the US, the CDC circular in April 2020 revised the way comorbidities enter cause-of-death records such that every death with a Covid association was registered as a Covid death.
The CDC later admitted, and a published paper showed, that about 95% of officially registered Covid deaths were associated with serious life-threatening comorbidities such as morbid obesity, severe hypertension, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and others.
In past days, the cause of death would have been recorded as due to the morbidity, with Covid as instrumental (perhaps) but not causal. But with the revised CDC advisory on cause-of-death, Covid death rates were inflated by about 20-fold in the US.
Adjusting Alabama’s Covid death total by the 95% who actually died of a serious co-morbidity leaves us with 1010 deaths from Covid alone in Alabama; 36% of the stated rate in NZ.
“The CDC later admitted, and a published paper showed…”
The link is dead. The claim is debunked here.
What the CDC actually said was that in 6% of death certificates, Covid was the sole condition mentioned. But in many other cases, the extra conditions were consequences of the Covid infection, eg pneumonia.
“36% of the stated rate in NZ”
That makes the false assumption that you can discount 95% of the deaths in Alabama because something other than simple Covid was mentioned on the death certificate. But it also assumes that no such discounting would apply to the NZ numbers.
Yes, I agree…let’s compare apples with apples.
Kompaniyets, et al, 2021 Underlying Medical Conditions and Severe Illness Among 540,667 Adults Hospitalized With COVID-19, March 2020-March 2021
What the CDC actually says, is “For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. (my bold)”
Your Reuters pseudo-bunking is a hand-waving dismissal of prior standard practice. Previously when people with, e.g., COPD died with flu, COPD was listed as cause of death. Now, when people with COPD die with Covid, Covid is listed as cause of death.
Standard practice has been inverted, falsely inflating the Covid death rate relative to past respiratory viruses.
“because something other” No. It means you can discount 95% of the deaths in Alabama because 95% of the deaths were caused by the complications of an average of four critically serious life-threatening pre-existing illnesses.
NZ presently does not list comorbidities in reporting Covid deaths. But a December 2020 report revealed that 14 of 25 NZ Covid deaths involved serious comorbidities. Writ large, 44% of NZ Covid deaths are due to Covid alone.
That reduces your 2779 NZ Covid deaths to 1223 which is still 21% greater than the Covid-alone death rate in Alabama.
” you can discount 95% of the deaths in Alabama because 95% of the deaths were caused by the complications of an average of four critically serious life-threatening pre-existing illnesses.”
So what are you going to list as cause of death for that 95%? Sounds like nothing at all.
Stroke kills lots of people. Or does it? If you look at the death certificate, you’ll find that lots of stroke victims also had high blood pressure, or obesity or diabetes. Does that mean they didn’t die of stroke? You could eliminate a lot of the scourges of mankind that way.
Beyond the instances of severe Covid induced cytokine storm syndrome, covid has not been the primary cause of death.
Covid exacerbated residing comorbidity, disease and system failure on the brink of collapse of which treatment and medication was prescribed.
Medical tradition is to name the ongoing condition as cause of death. Not succumbing to a cold or influenza.
Example; the WHO states (2017) “according to new estimates, up to 650 000 deaths annually are associated with respiratory diseases from seasonal influenza…”
“covid has not been the primary cause of death”
Here, from here, is a plot of total deaths in Alabama, including what is marked as excess deaths. The orange curve is what is usual; brown is the upper end of the usual range. The brown crosses are what was observed. The blue lines are the covid deaths. They line up very well with the observed excess (above average) deaths. People died in the covid waves who would not otherwise have died at that time.
You keep shifting your goal posts. No one has said COVID didn’t speed along those with severe comorbidity(S). Yet that is not the same as saying that they died of COVID. COVID was the last straw, so to speak. Not the primary cause. That was the comorbidity(s).
Blue, predicted number of deaths from all causes, including COVID.
Well, I guess life is a comorbidity. The fact is that Covid comes along and all those people die.
Hypertension, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and obesity were the most common comorbidity in patients death due to COVID-19.
-CDC-NCHS
Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reported that 75% of vaccinated adults who died of COVID-19, as recorded in a newly released study, had at least four comorbidities.
“were the most common comorbidity in patients death”
They are common comorbidities in life, too. They weren’t the reason that all those people died at that particular time.
Except that they were the reasons because we know that active people of good health don’t top the list of those who’ve died of COVID.
Seems your graph is only for one week. How very selective of you….
I always know when I am over the target by how much flak I get.
I noticed that despicable little elf Fuci, after getting COVID came out an announced that we are going to have a particularly bad flu season. This after 2 1/2 years of morbidity and mortality from influenza almost disappearing according to the CDC numbers.
Fauci Gives Update On Looming Flu Season: ‘We Better Pay Attention’ (ibtimes.com)
Where did the flu go and why is it coming back strong Dr. Fauci? And how do you know that it is going to be an especially bad season?
I suspect the only people that don’t know the answers to these questions are those you see wearing masks still.
I also noticed that you and Nick failed to note that spike in morbidity and mortality came despite the people of New Zealand being among the most “vaccinated” on earth.
I think it is well documented you can still catch covid and die if you are vaccinated. It’s just your chances are less than the unvaccinated.
Then how come mortality spiked in a population where 90 % of the population
12+ y/o had received two shots?
Yeah, but most of those who die are the idiots who think taking animal de-wormer is better than vaccination, despite the overwhelming evidence it is useless.
Wow! You went there! Hello MSNBC.
More likely her flagging popularity is due to her abandoning New Zealand’s zero Covid policy. Infections and deaths are way up.
Once the vaccination rate exceeded 90% it was no longer necessary. Now winter has passed infections and deaths falling fast, like infectious respiratory diseases do after every winter
That Jacinda Ardern is insane has been obvious for 2 years. And it’s news now that her popularity is dropping?
She should have been chased from office — literally and physically — 18 months ago.
It’s murder by policy and everyone acts as though life is normal.
Honestly, it seems apparent the Kiwis are insane, too. And the Aussies. And most of the Canucks. And the Californians, too.
Mattias Desmet is correct. We’re watching masses of people normalizing their own destruction.
“It’s murder by policy and everyone acts as though life is normal.”
What murder, what policy? I think you meant to write the name Trump in there instead. NZ’s performance through covid has been outstanding, more so when you compare it to the US.
How about the active suppression of effective early-treatment protocols, Simon. Their use would have prevented about 80% of Covid deaths, including those involving co-morbidities.
Suppression of life-saving drug-treatments should meet the definition of murder-by-policy even in your benighted world.
I’ll still to the tried and tested thanks. There is enough quality research out there to show those (HCQ and the like) drugs don’t work. You just have to read it without a bias. Clearly you can’t cure crazy.
” There is enough quality research out there to show those [ HCQ and the like ] drugs don’t work …..Clearly you cant cure crazy “…. The Journal of Virology published peer reviewed research [ 2005 ?] confirming chloroquine is an effective SARS – Covid prophylactic and morbidity ameliorative medication …….The journals editors and the papers authors were ‘crazy’ were they ? ….Why dont you try reading that publication devoid of bias ? ….
“ On 15 June 2020, the FDA revoked its emergency use authorization, stating that it was “no longer reasonable to believe” that the drug was effective against COVID-19 or that its benefits outweighed “known and potential risks”.[65][66][67] In fall of 2020, the National Institutes of Health issued treatment guidelines recommending against the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 except as part of a clinical trial.[50]“
Actually, Pat, if you knew a little more about Jacinda, you would realize that whatever else, she is rational. She is a protege of Helen Clark – who overtly stated herself to be a Fabian Socialist, all in on the Globalist agenda. Not to mention Jacindas time as an acolyte of Tony Blair. Agenda 2030 may well be insanity writ large, but its shock troops are well organised, and wide spread, and have had decades in the shadows to conduct the Long March through our institutions. I fear that it will take a calamity to pull us back from their malign influence – and there are signs that we may be about to get just that. I hope we come through
Pretty much agree, David. Insane doesn’t mean stupid.
The polls during Covid found 80% support for the lockdowns and border closures and they worked as the Covid was eliminated for long periods – until much more infectious variants arrived.
Eradication was never possible but long periods of elimination was achived.
Medical intervention by poll. Great thinking Duker.
That was taken after the events happened.- think about it the people polled couldnt support it before it happned
Its naive to think modern elected governments and their opposition parties dont do their own polling on decisions and policies. Also particular approaches to problems are focus grouped first before being announced
Why was she ever popular in the first place?