Essay by Eric Worrall
Because when you’re a socialist, all that is needed to fix a problem is a government target, right?
Chris Bowen outlines government’s Climate Change Bill, vows to legislate emissions reduction target in the first week of parliament
The Albanese Government will seek to legislate its 2030 and 2050 emissions reduction targets, as part of its Climate Change Bill, to be introduced in the first week of parliamentary sittings.
Miriah DavisDigital Reporter
June 29, 2022 – 2:40PM…
Mr Bowen outlined four key elements of the bill, which he said would help provide policy stability and certainty to the energy sector.
“Firstly, we will seek to enshrine in law our nationally determined contribution of 43 per cent emissions reduction by 2030 and net zero by 2050,” he said.
“Secondly we will explicitly task in law the Climate Change Authority to assess and publish progress against these targets and advise government on future targets including the 2035 target.
“Thirdly we will legislate a requirement for the minister for climate change to report annually to Parliament on progress in meeting our targets
“Finally as part of the consequential legislation we’ll insert the nation’s targets in the objectives and functions of a range of government agencies including ARENA, CFC infrastructure Australia and the NAIF.”
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Read more: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/chris-bowen-outlines-governments-climate-change-bill-vows-to-legislate-emissions-reduction-target-in-the-first-week-of-parliament/news-story/aadf7973bd0cf4767e60e766f26b9bf2
Hands up, who plans to invest in building a new factory or energy intensive business in Australia?
I’m not holding my breath waiting for the announcement of an actual plan of how to achieve these emissions targets, at least a plan which does not cause intolerable privation for ordinary Australians. Britain’s flirtation with energy rationing is evidence of what happens when a clueless green government pushes renewable energy policies.
Australia has already seen “voluntary” energy rationing, thanks to the sad state of our dispatchable energy systems. This is only set to get worse, under climate fanatics like Climate Minister Chris Bowen and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who have vowed a 43% emissions cut by 2030.
Federal Climate and Energy Minister Chris Bowen demonstrated his weak understanding of the issues, when he suggested we can cure renewable energy intermittency by storing electricity like water.
The only silver lining to this charade, will be the entertainment value of watching them continue to beg coal companies to produce more electricity, at least until the magic solar panels are ready.
The greens are immune to reality. Building a stable electrical grid with weather dependent sources is close to a definition of “impossible”.
it appears that the Australian electorate is immune to reality; they elected the greens.
Its a little more complex, the green slime has covered Labor and now the Coalition is going to have a bun fight over climate and energy. Here is David Littleproud selling the idea of nuclear power, the Nats just lost my vote.
‘Perhaps nuclear isn’t a dirty word after all?
‘I still haven’t got a reply from the PM about a National Energy Summit to discuss future energy sources.
‘We need leadership to start the conversation & @The_Nationals
are prepared to lead the way.’
when all this started to ramp up i said the ONLY way theyd get co2 free was to go nuke and aus will never do that.
amuses me they still think after billions wasted the renewables scam isnt obvious and it will work at any time.
The UK and many other democracies have first past the post voting, the candidate who receives the most votes wins, primary votes and no other choice given,
Australians have preferential voting, and in some States that is optional meaning voters can choose to vote for [1] candidate or also vote for other choices [2], [3], etc.
At the recent Federal Election only preferential voting was permitted, Labor formed government by a very narrow margin of primary and preferential votes allocated as the system provides. Effectively two thirds of voters did not vote for a Labor Government.
and we are rightly Pi**ed off already
I am all for first past the post but with one qualification: that person should get 50% + 1 of the vote. If not then none of the candidates should be allowed to stand because the low vote is a vote of no confidence. A new selections of candidates should be put forward. The voters would then be forced to find better candidates.
The UK’s First Past The Post has given us minority governments since WW2, Consevatives highest share of the vote was 49.7% in 1955. Labour’s was 48.8% in 1951, The only 20th century result with over 50% was in 1931 when The National Government got 67% of the votes.
In my opinion this is not a good system for various reasons. But the two main parties like it because they can remain in power for a decade or more
Nearly 7 out of 10 voted against this Government. A preferential voting system is not a democracy.
The supporters claim that preferences are fair and reasonable because that system of voting gives minor parties and independent candidates a better chance of winning a seat.
However, obviously, there are so many voters in any given electorate and all of the candidates campaign for their votes. The candidate that attracts the most votes should be the winner?
This is precisely the reasoning in Ireland. The Greens are a small party and with the majority party not governing they have helped to form a government. They have been given the plum post of “Minister for the Environment, Climate, Communications and Transport.” This dude is the tail wagging the government here and he is guided by ideology not reality. If he gets his way he will take Ireland back to the times of famine.
Sri Lanka comes to mind.
Pushing the renewable energy target out to 43% means there’s an extended source of energy certificates funding to parasite off coal power as it is obliged to purchase these certificates until the limit is met. What underwrites the subsidies after coal’s demise?
shades of Atlas shrugged isnt it?
like 1984 was meant to warn not be a manual
so was Rands Atlas shrugged
“Rube Goldberg-esque”
Impossible? With gods nothing is impossible.
This is the guy who believes that Australia is so big that the sun is always shining somewhere in Aust and just having more solar will solve our problem with renewables.
The Finkel report that underpins Australia’s embrace of W&S had the sun shining 12 hours a day every day of summer and 8 hours every day for winter.
Where on earth does Labor & the greens find these arrogant idiots?
The big lumps just float to the top.
I have told my sons to plant trees.
Remember all those tax dodges in Australia in the 1980s to buy managed forest plots. Just 40 years ahead of its time.
Wood combustion is currently the lowest cost source of energy in Australia right now.
My grandpa used to tell me about fuel rationing in WW2, he ended up converting his ute to run on charcoal, like the North Koreans are currently using.
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/charcoal-powered-vehicles-make-a-comeback-in-north-korea-12092016160533.html
Going to be a bit trickier these days with almost all cars fuel injected, and running at much higher performance tolerances. Still should be possible with petrol engines, with significant modifications, I wonder if anyone has tried to get a reasonably modern car (<15 years old) to run on syngas? That might be a skill that would be worth having in the next few years. Would need to be able to do it without access to any advanced technology too, so no buying third party ECUs or specialized computer chips, you’d need to work on the assumption that basically all global trade has collapsed.
Perhaps a more modest goal to start with. Converting a smallish generator to run on syngas, something in the 3-5kW range. With that, you could power other useful tools like welders and various machine tools. Welding supplies might quickly become scarce though. Probably an old arc welder would be best (mental note to self: buy a couple of packets of welding rods), as the gasses and consumables for TIG/MIG might be harder to get. It’s a daunting thought, our world is so delicately balanced on a supply chain of advanced and high quality products that most people don’t even give a second thought to. If it comes crashing down, it will likely be much less enjoyable than anyone could imagine, including myself.
Everything we know about everything: Is Wrong.
The Radio Free Asia article is garbage in that the vehicle is not burning Charcoal, it is producing charcoal (as a waste product)
In both stories, wood (and not charcoal) is being Pyrolised
The cars are Pyrolysing wood and thus running on an unknown and variable mixture of gases including:
You could do exactly the same with coal.
And prior to Natural Gas, that is exactly what happened. Houses, towns, cities and industry operated off ‘Town gas’ = pyrolysed coal.
Possibly even quite good for ‘Climate’ as the waste product (charcoal or coke) would keep the Greenies happy as it = ‘Captured Carbon‘ after all.
But it would *really* help climate in that the charcoal waste off this process is = Biochar. Something of immense value in trying to reverse Soil Erosion by capturing/retaing water and giving safe haven to soil bacteria, which actually are what soil organic material is.
Don’t laugh – all diesel engines do Pyrolisis – it is the Black Smoke they typically produce. Of course Greenies hate smoke not least as they might have to be called something different to to Greenies.
haha
Engines can also make blue smoke, Sadly it’s when they are burning their own engine oil, = same process but indicating the engine is ‘close to life‘
Speaking of ‘Close to life’, the black smoke that comes off electric cars also contains biochar but rather indicative of ‘End of life‘ for an EV. A rather expensive way of doing anything – hence why Socialists are all in favour of such brain-deadery.
i downloaded a pile of plans for these for the 2 tractors and the car if SHTF well n truly
How many will soon be leaving last one turn out the lights
Yes but to where? I seriously considered Switzerland until they caught the green bug.
Research what you are planting for a wood lot. I have a number of species of gum trees, planted over 30 years ago most of which would not supply a nights fuel in a slow combustion stove.
yup bluegums crap as fireplace fuel burns too fast and gives low heat, i got caught with a cheap load..except burning 2x faster for less output it ended up NOT cheap at all
yeah I was asked why i didnt go to rev cycle air and gas
well rev cycle might be subsidised the units for us poorer ones BUT the install isnt
and its warm while its on then the rooms back to icycold
as for gas yeah..at 145 a cylinder already up 15$ and the same install costs factored(i happen to have 2 gas unbits stashed in the shed) its STILL not going to heat as well as slow combustion wood does @ 150 a 6x4load or free if you go find n cut your own roadsides out bush
I think some punctuation would be really helpful.
And it is only a matter of time before lunar panels are developed.
They should develop back radiation panels. They will work 24/7, summer or winter and rain or shine.
They’re here already.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/australian-researchers-show-solar-power-can-be-generated-at-nigh/101070388
Not the same thing. They are claiming 2.26 milliwatts /sq metre by utilising thermal energy leaving the surface.
Everyone knows you can get about 3-4 watts per square meter with back radiation. Which is downwelling.
I’m playing the part of a politician who knows shit about anything.
So CO2 emissions are creating a free energy source from the sky!
Great way to make an environmentalist’s head explode!
Interesting.
“The amount of energy produced was only extremely small — roughly equivalent to 1/100,000th of a solar powered cell …. and I have to be honest, we need to find some new materials to achieve [widespread use] (Associate Professor Ned Ekins-Daukes).
One new material could be unobtainium that Eric is so excited by its potential.
I thought CO2 was bad because it traps the heat leaving the Earth which causes CAGW. Isn’t this accomplishing the same end?
Lunatic panels
Aren’t they called committees?
pun intented
Then we will all be run by lunatics, wait isn’t it happening now!
I wonder how much hot air we could evacuate from the atmosphere by removing politicians.
I wonder how much energy we could create by sticking a pipe up their bums and utilising the resource!
“The only silver lining to this charade, will be the entertainment value of watching them continue to beg coal companies to produce more electricity, at least until the magic solar panels are ready.”
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And where will Australia get all of those solar panels from? Do you Aussies have a domestic solar panel manufacturing industry? My guess is you will need to get them from China.
If the U.S. (as the #1 economy in the world) is still planning on phasing out our fossil fuel power plants in the years ahead, we are going to have to buy a lot of panels from China too, won’t we? Does China (and the world for that matter) have the manufacturing capacity to supply everybody?
And how will Australia and the U.S. dispose of all of those panels at the end of their lives? Has anyone in the developed world looked at a solar feasibility study for their economies?
Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread.
I’m not selling my ASX (Australian Stock Exchange) coal shares yet. My rationale is that if coal production is ended or even badly reduced then the whole economy collapses so I’ll be in good company, but if sanity returns I’ll be in the money. NB. I don’t equate Chris Bowen with sanity, but he doesn’t run everything.
Yes but any minute they could slap a massive tax on coal production – QLD has already just increased the coal resource tax. There is no rule which says government policies have to make economic sense, or be economically viable, or not cause the ruin of otherwise profitable companies.
Yes I’m aware of the QLD royalty grab. Basically, the rise in the price of coal since then has already covered it. ie, QLD coal companies are already all square. NSW are now well ahead of course, and the Lib NSW state govt has said they won’t do a royalty grab. I’m inclined to accept their word in this case.
Silver lining to that – if the government gets used to the coal royalties then they have an incentive to leave them alone.
You’re a teenager in Mackay in tropical North Queensland. You have mines to west and reef to the east. You are getting career advice in your high school on where your undoubted talent could be applied – you cannot stand blood and prefer outdoors. Will your school career adviser direct you toward marine biology and the reef, which is getting scullions in woke funds for all miner of playful things or to a mining engineer in one of the many dying mines! Dying or not, this is the message and Bowen might
The problem with dying industries, whether by market economics or government mandate, is that they are unattractive to young people so it becomes difficult to renew the dying workforce.
Although Glencore has done very well out of its Hail Creek purchase.
The maintenance in Australia’s coal fired power stations is suffering because who wants to start a career in a dead end job. And who wants to throw capital into a plant set for the scrap dealers?
There is a lot of money invested in fads. Nextera share price has doubled in 5 years – a major subsidy harvester. Tesla is losing its gloss but its share price went way beyond reasonable P/E.
Talking about dying industries .A labour government was elected in New Zealand back in 1984 in a snap election .
I can still remember Lange the new prime minister telling us farmers at a conference in Wellington that farming was a sunset industry .
2021 agricultural exports over 70% of export returns .The sun sets every day but people still have to eat every day.
We also have MMP voting which allocates votes for small parties from all over the country with candidates being elected from a list to parliament .
It sounds good but it works awfully as the greens and other parties have members elected and they tend to hold far to much power for the number of votes that they get .
This is because they often hold the balance of power with 5% of the over all vote they negotiate to get their policies enforced as a prerequisite of getting the government into power .
The rural areas of New Zealand are fed up with our government but in the cities large populations tend to control the voting .
When will electorates all over the world wake up .
There is no climate crisis .There will not be a climate crisis .
I hope I live long enough to see this nonesense stopped and that countries start electing leaders to look after their people instead of wasting billions on imaginary threats .
Well said Graham, sooner rather than later the shit will hit the fan and all the climate crazies will run into hiding or get their just deserts from the rest of us normal people who are fed up to the back teeth with the climate BS in OZ and NZ.
mates old panels came down a week or so back , asked the installers what they did with em? dumped
suggested Id consider then for making fence panels from
they werent enthusiastic and i didnt feel up to pushing it anyway
“Firstly, we will seek to enshrine in law our nationally determined contribution of 43 per cent emissions reduction by 2030 and net zero by 2050,” he said.
They have to get it through parliament first, Dutton is relishing a fight.
“the rain doesn’t always fall either, but we manage to store the water”
https://joannenova.com.au/2022/06/more-bad-luck-snowy-hydro-cant-run-much-because-it-has-too-much-water/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-bad-luck-snowy-hydro-cant-run-much-because-it-has-too-much-water
I didn’t know there were any socialists in the Australian Labor Party.
LOL 🙂
Bowen is either too spineless to write his own press releases, or an objective idiot.
Look at his third point: – We will make a committee and have regular reports.
Yes. Cause committees and reports are always what gets things done.
‘Next item. The Minister for Pointless Statements will give his report on emission reduction’
‘Thank you Chair. Basically nothing much since last time’
And the fourth? Authorising government departments to do more ‘public service’ bollocks? Sure, they will love that. New pictures for the work lock screens. An awareness morning tea. Little badges to pin on their cardies. Power point presentations on switching your computer off at night.
As for his moronic comparison between water and power? When it rains do you need to drink all the water at that exact moment? Can a human go 8 hours or so without drinking? Can your work computer go 8 hours or so without power?
He is not so much as trying to force an Apples to Oranges as Pizza to Ionosphere monitoring.
What next? I talk in parliament, therefore I can be an opera singer?
A comment on Sky News after his National Press Club address: “not the sharpest tool in the shed”.
I watched his speech on the “Press Club”. He mentioned “Climate Change” in every second sentence. He looked like a deer in the spotlight. He knows that he has an impossible job to do and was covering it with plenty of snake oil.
Aussie Climate Minister Chris Bowen outlines the government’s plan to bring misery, poverty, and early death to Australians.
There’s no silver lining, Eric.
The irony is, he thinks he is saving us from a worse long term fate, poor deluded bastard.
The problem is its the poor who will suffer the most before they realize their errors, these climate zealots will have blood on their hands, because we scientists have told them repeatedly that their climate cause is a crock of shit, but they want to be virtuous and save the planet from humanity.
It’s time for a Royal Commission on climate science practice in Australia to sort out the real facts from the alarmist crap we get endlessly from the CSIRO, BoM and Climate Commission of fools led by Flannery, Karoly and the Melbourne woke establishment.
This dangerous psychopath outlines nothing else than a depopulation plan as in most of the “occidental countries”.
Just what we need. More laws that do nothing to change behavior.
Wind Farms and the Big Battery have recently been fined Millions in Aussie courts for not delivering on their promised outputs in times of need.
”...at least until the magic solar panels are ready.”
It’s time to start talking seriously about the future of nuclear in Australia Eric.
Bowen makes a fencepost look smart.
hes a post turtle!
no use and no idea how the thing got there
This article brings an image to my mind of a row of politicians standing at a cliff edge saying that we have to do something dramatic to save everybody from global warming. They then announce we will take take a giant step forward into the future.
If only! That would solve the problem instantly!
The problem, of course being climate POLICY, not “climate change.”
In the UK we are beginning to uncover the damage done by SARS-CoV-2 (in its many and growing forms) policy NOT the virus itself. The whole theory behind public health measures to be taken in case of an epidemic once clearly followed best public health practice but now it follows poor advocacy by poor scientists, poor experts, and career liars (aka politicians). All of these have got to where they are by not telling the truth because their integrity was lost long ago on that first occasion they realised there is an easier route to the top [sic] than working hard and being honest with yourself. That is the real crime that took place in the UK when faced with a novel, but not unusual, virus.
The same has held true in UK climate science for three whole decades, and the crooked science, espertise and politic is now fully matured. Its pace and speed may now be unstoppable unless and until something truly tragic happens on such a scale that even the most gullible people will realise they have been taken for fools multiple times over. As with the virus the unnecessary excess deaths and damages will be truly tragic and recovery will take decades of really hard work, honesty and integrity to repair.
Future generations will remember this era as one of the worse self harming periods ever witnessed and written about on a very large scale.
this cretinous smug buffoon reckons we need 9x the solar and ?more wind and wires etc
well who the hells paying?
already the usual Labor screwups appear with some free fridges deal being rorted people having multiple fridges dropped in and then said fridges running at 14C when its colder OUTside, nearly 3yrs of this will drive us to ruin
Yes, but note that the AEMO add with firming.
So why retire coal fired power stations before time and replace them with gas generators, where is the cost-benefit analysis, or is the objective global politics and taxpayer’s monies and/or cost of living is being ignored?
The Albanese government is making a classic political mistake that’s very popular in Canada: “The proles didn’t vote you IN – they voted your predecessors OUT.”
“Oh, they voted us in by a LANDSLIDE – they must LOVE our policies!” – no, they so thoroughly hated the government before you that the overwhelming priority in the election was to teach them a very sharp and humiliating lesson. After the way Australians were bullied over COVID and treated like convicts and indentured servants in their own homes, the election result was written-in-the-stars – it MUST have been, because even I predicted it correctly.
So now Australians are going to take it in both ends for a term, until Albanese can be tossed-out. And will his successor government learn from this? – probably not.
Maybe he could lead the way by not exhaling?
Central planning and fiat government — the hallmarks of historical ignorance.
Fascinating. The Climate Minister has described a simple paper pushing exercise as a solution to an entirely imaginary problem. Maybe he is smarter than we think, but probably not. Any real efforts to achieve net zero are just the first step in a chain of events leading to the dissolution of society and eventual extinction of most human life when human CO2 emissions will disappear.
This is an utter joke when the population of Oz averages out at about 3.5 people per square kilometre!!
Go ahead. We’ll watch from the U.S., China, and India.
Couldn’t someone give him Ronald Reagan’s patent advice, “Don’t just do something, stand there!”?
The milk doesn’t always come from the cows but I can store some in my fridge. Pushing a failed agenda and not caring about his own people, what a smuck and a toadhead. Hey Bowen drill me some water wells please as I ran out of stored rain water , Oh thats right it doesn’t come from inside the Earth only the sky.
If successful, all plan life will expire since they are dependent on CO2
Having ‘Targets’ for things is fine. The damage occurs when the Socialists take their obsessions seriously and enact laws that force people to act in irrational ways that damage them and the environment..
Well, this is kinda expected.
Bowen has ALWAYS been an dribbling idiot.
Would be hilarious if the sign language interpreter started making hand motions, y’know, like a circle jerk, since that’s all this is.
The climate and energy minister, said in his speech, “that we got through last week without the need to shed load”. However I know of one large mining company in NSW that was asked to reduce their load between 5 and 8 pm. Both crushers (sag mills) were shut down for that period.