Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Mann, whenever we point out the private jet traffic jams at climate conferences, or Clown Prince Harry’s latest green PR disaster, its all part of a sinister big oil conspiracy to discredit climate activists, by making them all look like useless hypocrites.
As denying climate change becomes impossible, fossil-fuel interests pivot to ‘carbon shaming’
Aylin Woodward
Aug. 28, 2021, 11:06 AM
- Fossil-fuel interests no longer bother denying that climate change is real.
- So they’ve pivoted to new tactics, including painting climate advocates as hypocrites.
- Drawing attention to advocates’ non-eco-friendly habits undermines their credibility and distracts from policy changes.
After Prince Harry told Oprah Winfrey that climate change and mental health are two of the “most important issues facing the world today,” the New York Post threw the words back at him. In a story earlier this week, the Post reported that the “double-talking dilettante” had taken a private plane from Colorado to California.
Sky News and The Times too, have lambasted Harry’s carbon-intensive jetsetting. All three publications are tied to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, which previously denied the science of climate change. Murdoch is on the advisory board of Genie Energy, an energy company that invests in oil and gas projects.
London mayor Sadiq Khan, an anti-pollution advocate, got similar treatment from The Sun, another Murdoch-owned publication, for flying 32,000 miles (51,499km) between 2016 and 2019 and purchasing 4.3 million paper towels in a year.
According to Michael Mann, an atmospheric science professor at Pennsylvania State University, these types of stories are part of a larger strategy: Groups that support the continued use of fossil fuels have increasingly begun to point out climate advocates’ seemingly hypocritical behavior, rather than denying that climate change is real. It’s one of many new strategies the fossil-fuel industry has adopted, according to Mann’s latest book “The New Climate War.”
Mann told Insider that in his view, “2009-2010 was the last hurrah for good old fashioned climate-change denialism.” By 2019, 62% of Americans agreed that climate change was affecting their day-to-day lives.
“It’s beyond not being able to deny the science,” he said. “It’s now a matter of having to deny reality.”
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Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fossil-fuel-interests-target-climate-advocates-personally-2021-8
Anyone else noticed climate activists don’t seem to have a sense of humour? Perhaps that is why some people find it difficult to understand that when we point out the latest carbon outrage perpetrated by our hypocrisy challenged climate heroes, it is not part of some grand conspiracy to make them look silly. We just think its funny.
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Bob Hope tried to warn us about zombie science … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUbRu4FX8A
Everytime I see his photo I think of Curly from the Three Stooges. I wish I could recall who introduced that thought to me so I could give her of him credit.
Regards,
Bob
At least Curly was harmless and funny…don’t insult him.
And Curly could take a punch. Insult Mann and he crumples into a fetal position.You point out an error in Mann’s work and he sues you.
I noticed the Michael Mann article was posted next to the article “Walrus Facts and Myths”. Somehow it seemed appropriate… but perhaps I’m being unfair to walruses.
I think what Mikey is showing by the distance between his thumb and the end of his index finger is the size of his dick.
Well he seems to be a dick head but being a snake oil salesman its probably a measure of how fat his pay check is in $100 notes every week from his various deliverances .
Everytime I see Mann I think of Toy Story and the weasly toy dealer who gets hold of Woody and gives him a new paint job. Not only does he look like Mann but he is also into covering things up.
Progressives eat their own. While shills try to deflect and redirect, the left needs somebody to ostracize, censure and cancel. If they can’t find an opponent, they turn on themselves. The ideologically impure and imperfect can’t get a free ride forever.
“I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against the stranger.”
This is demonstrably true, in a weird way. Case in point is how William “Wikipropaganda” Connelley has decided that Naomi Oreskes’ subordinate Geoffrey Supran is impure, and said so on no uncertain terms a few days ago regarding the Friend of the Court brief that Oreskes, Supran et al. filed in Minnesota for the MN v API lawsuit: http://mustelid.blogspot.com/2021/08/yet-more-bollox-from-supran.html
That is exactly what one can expect from someone like MM. Some people think government shall solve problems by force and they are fine with double standards and hypocrisy. A typical view of the Marxist mind. Obviously they do not believe in individual freedom and responsibility. Some of them even think that a society like that in 1984 is what they would like to have, for everyone else, except themselves. They think they will not suffer because they see themselves as servants of the oppressive regime and count on being rewarded for that.
History shows that the useful idiots are always the first to be purged. The useful idiots are always so surprised when it happens… because they are idiots.
The Powers That Be determine there are too many clowns and not enough circuses, so the clowns must go.
Another part is that the new powers that be, already know that the useful idiots are willing to betray their country on behalf of an ideology.
What’s to prevent them from doing it again. Safer to just get rid of them.
Bingo, you get it.
Rudi,
Just watched a Project Veritas video about the self-confessed Communist school teacher in Sacramento who gives his students extra credit for attending Antifa rallies! Not only does he have an Antifa flag on display in his classroom, he also has an Ingsoc tattoo on his left (duh) arm!!
He has to be the poster child for those who see 1984 as a training manual, not a cautionary tale! How can someone be accredited as a school teacher and still believe that Communism is anything other than scientismatic slavery!?
The test for getting a teaching certificate is not that challenging, although there are some who can’t pass it.
The best part of that video is when he says that people were shot in the street “who probably shouldn’t have been” in Mao’s era. This is an educator, with a picture of Mao on his wall, admitting that he’s okay with street executions.
Everyone believes they are going to live in the Cities, not the districts.
I find Hunger Games to be a more appropriate analogy these days than 1984. Many proclaim to have read 1984 (and/or Animal Farm) but they “read” it in the sense of the average high school student’s approach to reading – they found just enough information to regurgitate what the teacher wants to hear, not to understand it. Hunger Games has a pretty actress and action in it with none of those pesky words to read.
Climates are always changing as part of natural evolution.
Man(n)’s propensity for perfidy –
not so much 🤑
Funny, Mikee Manni is payed 100% with tax dollars, that means Big Oil in PA is paying his salary.
On the AMO thread, a troll by the name of nyolci has proclaimed that this blog is funded by big oil. When asked for proof his reply was essentially that it’s something everybody knows and anyone who doubts is an idiot.
He also proclaims that Mann has proven that the AMO doesn’t exist, since Mann wrote a paper in which he described using a climate model. According to Mann, when he removed aerosols from the model, the AMO disappeared. Oh yea, anyone who doubts that Mann has proven there is no AMO is also a science denier.
A generation of peeps brought up on Star Trek with the belief that the “computer” has all the answers, in the full knowledge that computers are & have to be programmed by…………………..Human Beings!!! Human Beings are flawed, sometimes deeply!!!! Perhaps it’s something the peeps at Tesla should have thought about, with some of their customers relying on an onboard computer to do their driving for them. As an engineer, I always some kind of manual override button!!! In sailing parlance, the part of navigation that was always essential training, was “dead-reckoning”!!! In structural engineering, (& I know in many other branches of engineering), the development of getting a “feel” for whether something was right or not was essential!!! Never rely on puters to be 100% right 100% of the time, your life might depend on it one day!!! The dufus who programmed the damned thing might have been a total nut-job!!!
No matter how good the programmer, it’s the unexpected conditions that will get you in the end.
nyolci got bounced from here, did it not?
We live in a time of very benign and favorable climate…when has it been better? The arctic ice…Greenland ice…and Antarctic ice are all normal….there are no unusual storm patterns….the sea level is not alarming…Tony Heller has recently shown a graph of daily temps above 95 F in the USA – these temps have been declining for decades – remarkable. Fight on…but don’t forget to enjoy the climate.
I would say the Minoan Climate Optimum combined with modern agriculture is whatvwe should hoping for.
I don’t consider Ice Ages to be benign or favorable for life on Earth.
Paranoid, delusional conspiracy theorist. Why is Mann being given a platform to spout this inane drivel?
Freedom of speech. First amendment. The corollary is freedom to be perceived as unknowledgeable.
Then why are we,the side who doesn’t believe in all his mumbo jumbo fearmongering lies and delusions being censored?
Because the people who demand free speech for themselves, don’t believe anyone else has a right to it.
They see morality as a tool to manipulate their opponents.
This is why the victims of unjust libel suits should consider suing the accusers back. I’m looking not only at Mann but also at the #ExxonKnew plaintiffs.
Is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. Mikey to a “T.”
“It’s now a matter of having to deny reality.”
He lives in an alternative reality.
Decades ago people in the U. S. left said, “Freedom is the right to be wrong.” Freedom of speech should not be suppressed. Those who do are the enemies of humanity in general. I wish those type of leftists to return.
That is simply because the peeps who are giving him those platforms are of the same & or delusional opinions, they want the World to change to what they believe it should be, AGW is merely the latest device & weapon in their arsenal to achieve it!!!
How. Is. It. Possible? – to be so dumb & lacking in self-awareness while so full of self-importance
The Very Fact that he ‘needs‘ to come out with this sort of verbiage completely undermines his ‘science’
<shakes head & wanders away muttering the words”This one’s due a very big fall“>
Don’t worry, he’ll have his humpty dumpty moment at some point.
We should bang the hypocrisy drum much louder, IMO. Really embarrass them…endlessly, until they shut up.
We should bang the hypocrisy drum much louder, IMO. Really embarrass them…endlessly, until they shut up.
Not in my experience. They simply don’t care. Or they make excuses (mainly saying how it’s different when they do it)
Sorry, but I don’t find the hypocrisy in the least bit funny.
It’s disgusting.
One of the first principles of leadership is that one leads from the front. The sleazy bastards like Michael “Piltdown” Mann, “Fat” Albert Gore, Barack Obama, David Attenborough and Leo DiCaprio are the antithesis of that principle.
Laughter is a powerful means to oppose bombastic extremists IMO. Worked for Charlie Chaplin.
We don’t need to make them all look like useless hypocrites – they are useless hypocrites
As someone else said, “How can anyone believe in CAGW, when those who push it the hardest, don’t act as if they believe in it.”
But climate change is denied by the actions of the hypocrites.
If they believed what they were saying they would not do it.
That’s denial. It’s quite possible.
MM’s “carbon shaming” rant is the equivalent of Greta Thunberg walking past some rubbish on the beach and saying “someone should pick that up!”.
I guess MM has some flights planned with this elite crew and he needs to do some damage control ahead of time.
now you’re pulling the curtain aside
I don’t think they are hypocrites, but elitists. Just as people favoring a Marxist-Leninist political system always envision themselves as part of the Party cadre, and never as a prole.
I’d vote for “C. All of the above.”
“pivoted” ?
Pretty sure we’ve always laughed at their hypocrisy.
I’m not sure we laugh at their hypocrisy so much as we make fun of THEM by pointing it out.
I wonder if Mikey Mann ever heard the old adage “don’t start a war throwing rocks if you live in a glass house”? Looks like Aylin Woodward is calling out David M.? Disclaimer: I once worked for CONOCO, and was the recipient of Big Oil Money, thank you very much.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58396975
“we have more water vapor in the atmosphere, which is exacerbating . . . hurricanes, floods . . .”
Next paragraph –
“droughts are the biggest threats ”
WTF are they sniffing over there at the BBC?
Cheap green spray paint ?
😉
It’s usually Colombian marching powder being sniffed at the bBC. Explains a lot of their output.
I’m more concerned about their inputs (into children), and the extreme behaviour of hiding all of said inputs from public scrutiny. Criminals of the worst kind, the lot of them.
The BBC used to fund great progs including comedies, but they have slipped quite away back these days, sadly. I have signed two online petitions to demand the BBC be privatised, unless they revert to their original public broadcasting brief for the benefit of the public, who pay their wages!!!!!!! Great shows like “Tomorrows World” aren’t shown or made anymore, simply because they were educating the peeps, nowadays that’s a definite No-No!!!! The peeps MUST be kept ignorant at all costs, & I truly believe that they are partly behind the calls for the internet to be “CONTROLLED”, i.e., be edited & approved by those in power!!! George Orwell predicted it all perfectly, we are living in Oceana, at least in the alleged free democratic Western democracies!!! Good old AGENDA 21, dumb down on education, manipulate & control!!! Oh how Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov must be celebrating deep down in the bowels of the Earth, his dream is coming to the fore!!!!! I say deep down in the bowels of the Earth because that is where his soul truly is, despite his carcass being laid in “state”, & what a state it is in!!! Carl Marx was also a flaming hypocrite, he moved over to the UK from his beloved Germany, was a wealthy middle-class man, who indulged in Sunday afternoon picnics in Hyde Park, quaffing champagne with his other half!!!! He truly knew how to be a man of the people!!!! Hey Mickey Mann baby, do you indulge likewise on all that dosh you’ve made at public expense???
Anything exotic, after all they can all afford it, they’re paid by the UK taxpayers, no expense spared for these intellectual ruling elitists, privately educated, university educated some with actual real degrees, but most in Philosophy, Politics, & Economics, very few in actual science!!! I did ask Griffy-baby a while back about who funds these Climate Activists to be able to afford to fly all over the world to demonstrate at these Climate gin/whisky/vodka/champagne/brandy/wine fed occasions, apart from the taxpayers of course!!!
Can climate change be the cause on absolutely no hurricanes hitting Florida from 2005 to 2017!
The last hurricane to strike New England was Bob in 1991, 30 years ago. As a result, at present, despite modest warming New England is currently experiencing the second longest period in recorded history without a hurricane making landfall in the region.
Alinski #4 is a bitch.
Is it any surprise that the guy who wrote an algorithm to create hockey sticks out of nothing (even random noise) to demonstrate something that isn’t happening (tree rings supposedly showing 20th century warming) sees dark conspiracies where there are none? He lives in a frightening fantasy world of his own making. It must be hell.
I thought they showed a decline, and that had to be hidden?
He is a perfect fit for Penn State though.
State pen?
After the Sandusky “investigation”, it’s seems like Penn State will do anything to protect it’s revenue streams.
There’s an old joke about big-time football schools having academic departments that the team can be proud of. I know most Penn State alums are fiercely loyal to their university, but given Mann’s chipping away at the concept of scientific integrity, they should consider removing the ubiquitous PSU license plate holders and bumper stickers from their vehicles.
Not to mention the other things they were hiding. Like a Jimmy Savile/BBC relationship. Ugh.
There was absolutely no way somebody at the BBC didn’t know about him, but he was a big personality who did lots of charity work publicly recognised & promoted, largely by the ………………………BBC!!!!!!!
Hypocritical of Michael Mann to state in his book, as quoted in this excellent article, that 2009 & 2010 were the peak years of denying man-made-global-warming, and now 62% of people believe in it. I seem to remember that in November 2009, an unknown whistleblower at the East Anglia University working for Mann and the other top global warming “scientists”, got SO FED UP with their fudging and lying about the numbers, that he released 10,000 emails of theirs……proving that they LIED about the warming numbers, in MANY ways.
But that was Russian hackers! Colluding with Trump!
Where’s his data? Oh no, the nitwit is so careless that he lost another set of homework? The dog ate it AGAIN ?
I skimmed and then searched the article for:
Chevron – no matches
BP – no matches
Shell – 1 match, the compulsive liar calling it a shell game
Then I gave up
He’s too busy “hiding the decline” again !! And he’s probably inventing a new “nature trick” to fudge the numbers. This guy Michael Mann should NOT be paid by Penn State. What’s wrong with the top Admin fools there ?
Actually, no phil. Like a lot of these prominent climate wroughters, Mann basically is a one (“Nature’s”) trick pony. He has, since is long worn out and busted hockeystick, only written climate fiction and ad hominem op eds in the NYT funny papers. For one schtick he ends up making a cool few million, including 20yrs of pension payments.
I don’t doubt that he’s made money out of being a liar 24/7, but you only get one life. I suppose the die is cast and it’s too late for any introspection. Sadly, but he deserves it, the die was probably cast the moment he decided he would be a hero if he could fake the temperature record. What a sad thought
Its all the Federal grant money he brings in catering to politicians.