China Suggests Greta Thunberg is an Ignorant Political Puppet

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Observa; In response to Greta attacking China’s colossal CO2 emissions, China has responded by suggesting Greta is “short of sufficient academic knowledge study, and lack of sound self-judgment capability”.

The Greta tweet which upset China;

China’s response;

Thunberg may lack enough knowledge to correctly understand climate change

By Lu Xue 
Published: May 09, 2021 11:08 PM

China’s annual greenhouse gas emissions in 2019 exceeded those of all developed countries combined, for the first time since national emissions have been measured, according to a new report from the US-based Rhodium Group. When retweeting the news on Twitter on Friday, Swedish teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg commented, “Yes, China is still categorized as a developing nation by WTO, they manufacture a lot of our products and so on. But that’s of course no excuse for ruining future and present living conditions. We can’t solve the climate crisis unless China drastically changes course.” It’s noticeable that Thunberg has not publicly voiced her opinion over Japan’s decision on dumping contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant into the sea.

The report by the Rhodium Group, which emphasizes that China’s annual emissions exceeded those of all developed countries combined, is prejudiced. Its aim is to impose more responsibility on China. Plus the report seems to have ignored a simple fact that the combined population of the US and the EU, which are mostly developed countries, is still less than that of China. 

Thunberg, who at age 15 started skipping school on Fridays for her climate protests, is merely 18 years old this year. She is short of sufficient academic knowledge study, and lack of sound self-judgment capability. Girl like her is prone to be affected or even manipulated by some political forces.

Li said, in a bid to achieve their political intents, some Western political forces manipulate teenagers, treating Thunberg as a political puppet. This practice is unethical and despicable.

Read more: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1223004.shtml

I’m shocked at Greta’s attack on China. I thought Xi Jinping’s China is now one of the good guys, thanks to China’s recent commitment to achieve net zero long after all their competitors suffer total economic collapse.

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EWSTX
May 11, 2021 2:05 pm

But the puppet they installed in OUR White House is soooo very intelligent… Yeah…

Bryan A
Reply to  EWSTX
May 11, 2021 2:29 pm

The difference being
Greta = Sock Puppet (for the Woke Crowd)
Biden = Marionette (with China pulling the strings)

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Bryan A
May 11, 2021 4:01 pm

Punch and Judy?

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
May 12, 2021 6:12 am

Yes, but Punch wants to sniff Judy’s hair.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Bryan A
May 11, 2021 7:13 pm

I would accept China’s opinion on this as accurate. After all, they are the leading experts on puppets and manipulation.

Redge
Reply to  Bryan A
May 11, 2021 11:34 pm

I’ve got no strings
To hold me down
To make me fret
Or make me frown
I had strings
But now I’m free
There are no strings on me

…..

Down where the Volga flows
There’s a Russian rendez-vous
Where me and Ivan go
But I’d rather go with you, hey

There are no strings on me

TonyG
Reply to  Redge
May 12, 2021 10:41 am

Speaking of strings:

Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude and scoffing at the wise

George Daddis
Reply to  EWSTX
May 11, 2021 3:32 pm

How bo

Pauleta
May 11, 2021 2:06 pm

I will dare to going beyond China: I will affirm, not merely suggest that she is a puppet.

Curious George
Reply to  Pauleta
May 11, 2021 2:15 pm

China has more common sense than the whole United Nations.

Reply to  Curious George
May 11, 2021 2:44 pm

China is actually employing common sense, while we debate wokeism. Very sad … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/kf3DIEm

michael hart
Reply to  John Shewchuk
May 11, 2021 3:26 pm

Nice link, John. Someone needs to tell Hollywood et al that they are barking up the wrong tree.

Reply to  michael hart
May 11, 2021 3:37 pm

Thanks. It seems that voting is not enough, so now I make videos. YouTube’s “Ministry of Truth” is now shadow-banning my videos, which is why I primarily post on NewTube … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB

Steve
Reply to  John Shewchuk
May 11, 2021 4:55 pm

Thanks John for the headsup about NewTube. I’ve just joined up. I teach Public Speaking at a Thai University and YouTube banned one of my teaching videos about Hitler.

Reply to  Steve
May 11, 2021 5:35 pm

Not only does YouTube shadow-ban me, but they also delete all comments that I make on other’s content. It’s like being in a Communist country! At least freedom is legal on NewTube. Let me know if/when you post to NewTube and I’ll subscribe so we can help defeat the “cancel” culture. Never give up.

Abolition Man
Reply to  John Shewchuk
May 12, 2021 5:49 am

John,
Recent subscriber; your work is excellent! That railway line makes me ashamed for my country and the fools we are allowing to ruin it!

Reply to  Abolition Man
May 12, 2021 7:38 am

Thanks so much Abolition. The CCP is not my friend, but when it comes to actually following the science and common sense, China nails it. The CCP doesn’t need to mislead and fool their population with green energy promises, because they already achieved Communism. Our comical rush into green energy paradise makes us the laughing stock of modern science. Once I made my first video, I realized the Left provides unlimited material of climate insanity needing exposure … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/3fEZDK4

kim
Reply to  michael hart
May 11, 2021 7:25 pm

Heh, woking up the wrong try!
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M Courtney
Reply to  Curious George
May 11, 2021 2:56 pm

China is going to win this war against pseudoscience for us.
But don’t think that makes China the good guy.
The Red Army crushed the Nazis. But that didn’t make Stalinist CCCP the good guys.

n.n
Reply to  Curious George
May 11, 2021 3:00 pm

For better and worse, the Chinese communists and their patrons subscribe to a pragmatic philosophy.

John Dueker
Reply to  n.n
May 11, 2021 5:12 pm

Yes but. Try showing an image mainland China that doesn’t include Taiwan and they will come unglued.

PCman999
Reply to  n.n
May 11, 2021 6:07 pm

Again, yes BUT. They were content to work hard and allow some free enterprise while they were building up their country, but once things start to level off (like their population) they are going to start eating their own, to maintain control and fight over the juicy portions. Dictatorships aren’t stable, leads to civil wars and coups.

PCman999
Reply to  Curious George
May 11, 2021 6:02 pm

I hate to say it, but I agree, at least about economics and planning for industry and infrastructure for a prosperous future. They’ll kill you if you step out line, but if you’re a sheep you’ll live long, fat and with a shiny car.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Pauleta
May 11, 2021 3:18 pm

The puppets have puppets that have puppets that have etc.
This one turned on one higher up the “chain”.

kim
Reply to  Gunga Din
May 11, 2021 7:29 pm

The Thousand and one puppets of Bartholomew Alarmist.

Alternatively, it’s puppets all the way down.
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Robert A. Taylor
May 11, 2021 2:06 pm

Unlike almost all other climate alarmists, at least she’s consistant.

Tom Halla
May 11, 2021 2:08 pm

I think it was child abuse to use a teenager with Asperger’s as a sock puppet.

Don
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Except in support of a “noble” cause, then it’s perfectly okay.

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a happy little debunker
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 11, 2021 2:20 pm

Sock puppet?

greta.jpg
Michael
Reply to  a happy little debunker
May 11, 2021 2:53 pm

How DARE you?!?!

a happy little debunker
May 11, 2021 2:17 pm

I expect that China will now declare they are ‘missile ready’ to respond to Greta’s interference in their glorious ‘People’s Republic’.

Climate believer
May 11, 2021 2:17 pm

“China Suggests Greta Thunberg is an Ignorant Political Puppet”
How dare you….

Gunga Din
Reply to  Climate believer
May 11, 2021 3:14 pm

Who knew?
(Besides us.)

Rasa
May 11, 2021 2:20 pm

Looks like we finally may have some common ground with Communist China?

Bryan A
Reply to  Rasa
May 11, 2021 2:33 pm

Naw just choosing 1 evil over the other

jtom
Reply to  Rasa
May 11, 2021 5:02 pm

Remember, the Allies joined with Stalin to defeat the H-man. Sometimes you’ve got to do the unthinkable.

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  jtom
May 11, 2021 6:02 pm

What the Germans call “realpolitik”.

BobM
Reply to  jtom
May 11, 2021 7:29 pm

Your enemy’s enemy. Temporary non-friends with benefits.

Richard Page
Reply to  BobM
May 12, 2021 2:40 pm

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. No more, no less.”

bluecat57
May 11, 2021 2:26 pm

Racists

Coeur de Lion
May 11, 2021 2:30 pm

I knew she was racist. And against black Africans getting electricity too.

David Kamakaris
May 11, 2021 2:34 pm

“China Suggests Greta Thunberg is an Ignorant Political Puppet”

No more than any other woke moron that ignorantly prattles on and on about climate change because of the resultant warm fuzzy feeling.

Neo
Reply to  David Kamakaris
May 14, 2021 7:28 am

Funny how they didn’t say anything until Greta turned in their direction

Thomas Waeghe
May 11, 2021 2:36 pm

I am shocked that they would put down such a nice little girl like Greta. A murdering, oppressive like China being so critical of a brilliant young woman-to-be. Unbelievable.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Thomas Waeghe
May 11, 2021 10:09 pm

While I appreciate the dripping sarcasm, many others don’t get it.

May 11, 2021 2:36 pm

Greta linked to a tweet from Naomi Klein without deleting the linked tweet and is now under attack to spread accusations against Israel.
She answerd later on twitter:
To be crystal clear: I am not “against” Israel or Palestine. Needless to say I’m against any form of violence or oppression from anyone or any part. And again – it is devastating to follow the developments in Israel and Palestine.

Friday For Future is said to link to antisemitic contents
In German news is told, the international branch of FFF calls for an Israel boykott. Also is told, FFF deleted the post but screenshots exist.

Worth reading article about:
In the final stages of infiltration

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Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2021 3:29 pm

The article I linked as last writes about a movement called BDS
Thats what Wiki writes about, didn’t know it either before.

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Editor
Reply to  Krishna Gans
May 11, 2021 4:44 pm

You have to be really careful who you link to nowadays. The article you like might be on a site that once put out a report that upset someone, or it might have a murky past.

The woke left may well put a ban on the UK’s BBC, for example, if they find out that its head honcho once admired Adolf Hitler:
“BBC’s first director-general had ‘worrying admiration for Hitler’”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1419581/bbc-news-tim-davie-bias-director-general-john-reith-world-war-2-adolf-hitler-spt

RobH
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 12, 2021 5:25 am

I thought the “trains run on time” thing was Mussolini, but if it was Hitler Germany could do with him back to day, on that particular issue of no other!

RobH
Reply to  RobH
May 12, 2021 5:26 am

Apologies for autocorrects. Can’t edit.

Richard Page
Reply to  RobH
May 12, 2021 2:44 pm

It was certainly attributed to Mussolini but as neither of them actually managed to do it, it’s fairly academic, don’t ya think?

Redge
Reply to  Mike Jonas
May 11, 2021 11:42 pm

The woke left may well put a ban on the UK’s BBC, for example, if they find out that its head honcho once admired Adolf Hitler:

Or that Attenborough is the patron saint of a think tank that wants to cull 75% of the population.

I say cull because no matter how you look at it, people will not volunteer.

bonbon
Reply to  Mike Jonas
May 12, 2021 1:27 am

Curiously, the woke should start at the top – with the abdicated King for example.
The very woke Markle did say something about that well documented Royal problem.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
May 12, 2021 3:22 am

“Die Welt” or “Welt online” is a nationwide German newspaper foundet by the Allied after WW2 in 1946 in Hamburg. 1953 it was transferred to Axel Springer.

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May 11, 2021 2:47 pm

Duh!

Rud Istvan
May 11, 2021 2:56 pm

Don’t usually comment on this sort of thing. Making an exception here.
I think Greta Thunberg will shortly prove to be a BIG warmunist liability. Three separate but equally valid reasons.

  1. She is a teen who almost literally knows nothing of real substance.
  2. She apparently has Asperger’s, which means she does not relate well.
  3. She is petulant rather than persuasive.

All in all, not good climate optics up against the likes of, say, Steve Koonin.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 11, 2021 3:25 pm

She’s also rapidly approaching the age where it will become difficult to pull off the little girl shtick so beloved of Euro Totalitarians.

However, Al Gore is an old guy who also 1) knows nothing of real substance, 2) does not relate well and 3) is petulant rather than persuasive, and he’s still active, so who knows?

Redge
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
May 11, 2021 11:45 pm

And made a lot of $$$$$$ pedaling his doom and gloom

Hmmm, Greta’s parents are also making $$$$ pedaling Greta

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 11, 2021 10:12 pm

Elon Musk claims to Asperger’s. Musk is his onwn made man. A genuine idiot savant like his Tesla car namesake.
But I doubt Ms Thunberg will ever rise to anything but someone else’s sock puppet. A sock puppet for their own enrichment while she just gets the scraps from the table tossed to her as long as she performs on cue.

bonbon
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
May 12, 2021 1:33 am

Musk inherited a fortune, right?
¨Asperger¨ means today a spectrum of problems the white coats do not understand – so they dole out medication. People make far more noise about vaccinations than this deadly drug trade. Result – patients are in danger. I hope Musk, and Greta, know this.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  bonbon
May 12, 2021 9:23 am

You are a massive fool. Yes, there are incompetent social workers and psychiatrists that just want to medicate people on the autism spectrum, but there are a lot of good people working in the field as well that really help people suffering from this condition. I have personal experience in this area and your contemptuous dismissal is an affront to everyone that has been impacted by this very difficult problem.

And as to Elon, no, he did not inherit a fortune. He earned it the hard way: by expending great effort, maximizing his talents, and making sacrifices. Go crawl back under the rock you were hiding under, nobody wants to hear your vile bleating.

Joe
Reply to  Paul Penrose
May 13, 2021 5:56 am

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-elon-musk-defends-subsidies-20150601-htmlstory.html

I think you are correct. Elon did not inherit a fortune.
The above link proves it.

Neo
Reply to  Joe
May 14, 2021 7:48 am

Wikipedia makes a reference to Musk using $100 million from an inheritance to start SpaceX

TonyG
Reply to  Neo
May 14, 2021 10:38 am

No, it does not. “With $100 million of his early fortune, Musk founded Space Exploration Technologies Corp., traded as SpaceX, in May 2002″

Follow the link to the reference and it says “ASK Elon Musk what he wants to do with his life — after having amassed a $300 million fortune from the Internet — and the answer is surprising”, and “Mr. Musk wants more, and he has put $100 million of his fortune on the line to try to get it.”

Nothing about inheritance.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 12, 2021 1:47 am

Greta is already a gigantic liability for climate alarmism. Who enjoys being lectured by somebody who knows much less than they do?

Herbert
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 12, 2021 7:30 pm

Rud,
I have just watched the BBC special,“Greta Thunberg:A Year to Change the World”.
It was sad to see a young girl so misinformed as she is.
If she only read the science she continually tells us to follow.
She should go to SPM1 in WG1 of AR5 (2013) to see the divergence between what the scientists actually say and what she hears from the media and activist zealots.

Richard Page
Reply to  Herbert
May 13, 2021 6:13 am

You watched it all? You obviously have a stronger stomach than I do.

michael hart
May 11, 2021 2:56 pm

With a clear conscience, I can say that Greta Thunberg and the Chinese Communist Party deserve each other.

It’s a marriage made in heaven, if there is such a place.

Richard Page
Reply to  michael hart
May 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Give it 18 months or so and it can be a marriage made in ‘Heavenly Palace’!

Mr. Lee
May 11, 2021 2:57 pm

It’s noticeable that Thunberg has not publicly voiced her opinion over Japan’s decision on dumping contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant into the sea.

I like how China doesn’t pass on the opportunity to throw a jab at Japan. LOL.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Mr. Lee
May 11, 2021 3:14 pm

I’ll never understand why people think diluting radioactive material is a bad thing. Why on earth would anyone want it in concentrated form where it can be dangerous?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
May 11, 2021 8:43 pm

I think it’s true to say that the vast majority of people view radioactivity as a mysterious magic property that us humans don’t understand … that we wouldn’t even exist without continuous low levels of it bombarding us.

Kalsel3294
May 11, 2021 2:58 pm

Isn’t her real target the WTO?

May 11, 2021 3:01 pm
dk_
May 11, 2021 3:14 pm

Like two divas wrestling in a hog wallow, whichever wins, it will still smell bad.

dk_
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 11, 2021 3:58 pm

In 2024, a woke Oilympic event! Merkel as the East German judge.

jtom
Reply to  dk_
May 11, 2021 5:06 pm

I figured she would be representing Germany in the event.

MarkW
Reply to  jtom
May 11, 2021 6:55 pm

She’ll compete and be a judge in the same event.
The ultimate in German efficiency.

observa
May 11, 2021 3:14 pm

‘Greta is “short of sufficient academic knowledge study, and lack of sound self-judgment capability”’

Well there you have it watermelons. The Chief Lefty and Fearless Leader has spoken.

George Daddis
May 11, 2021 3:30 pm

A fun competition would be a basic science test (say 12th grade) between Greta and AOC.
My money would be on Greta.

dk_
Reply to  George Daddis
May 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Second grade. Tantrum throwing required at that level.

Steve
Reply to  George Daddis
May 11, 2021 5:02 pm

AOC recently came under fire for naming her new dog Rolex. “It’s a watch dog idiot,” was her response.

paul courtney
Reply to  Steve
May 13, 2021 7:41 am

Steve: Thanks for that story. It shows she’s a lousy leftist (also a typical leftist). As a warrior for the poor and working class, when AOC thinks “watch”, she thinks of the wildly over-priced luxury item that would look good on her as she leads the poor to a better world. A good leftist would have gotten the optics, and named the dog “Timex.”

UNGN
May 11, 2021 3:31 pm

Thanks, Chinese Captain Obvious!

This is the Popcorn requiring fight that had to happen sometime, but three months straight of cool weather in the Northern Hemisphere appears to have her flailing. When summer comes she can remind us all how horrible we all are for making summer hot.

Stephen Skinner
May 11, 2021 3:54 pm

I’m repeating myself but if Greta can then so can I.
Here are the number of Coal fired power stations in various countries with the numbers in bold signifying planned and population size in brackets:
……4 ……..0….UK…………………..(66,600,000)
….19 …..60….Philippines …(108,100,000)
….56 …..93….Turkey ………….(82,000,000)
….58 …..26….South Korea …(51,710,000)
….79 …..24….South Africa ..(58,560,000)
….90 …..45….Japan ………..(126,300,000)
…241 ……4….US ………………(328,200,000)
…468 ….27….EU ……………..(446,000,000)
…589 ..446…India ……….(1,366,000,000)
2,363 1171…China …….(1,398,000,000)

The two countries that get special attention for ‘destroying the planet’ and demands for reparations for ‘climate crimes’ are the UK and US. While China wins hands down for twice as many coal fired power stations than the rest of the planet. Also, China with over 700,000,000 middle class and over 100,000,000 wealthy is redefining what ‘developing’ nation means.
To Greta: Now your education starts.

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jtom
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
May 11, 2021 5:15 pm

Might be more impactful if you showed how many coal coal plants per 10,000,000 population for each country.

PCman999
Reply to  jtom
May 11, 2021 6:16 pm

Yah, it’s crazy. China has more than double the amount of plants per million pop. than the US – must be a lot of sh!tty small inefficient smog machines. Good thing they are building new modern ones!

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  jtom
May 11, 2021 10:15 pm

Are you math challenged? Population sizes are known.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
May 12, 2021 7:04 am

Here are the same numbers but ordered by population size. There are a number of ways of looking at this but it is the same whichever. The west, particularly UK and US are being screwed.
….58 …..26….South Korea …(51,710,000)
….79 …..24….South Africa ..(58,560,000)
……4 ……..0….UK…………….…..(66,600,000)
….56 …..93….Turkey ………….(82,000,000)
….19 …..60….Philippines ..(108,100,000)
….90 …..45….Japan ………..(126,300,000)
…241 ……4….US …………….…(328,200,000)
…468 ….27….EU ………….…..(446,000,000)
…589 ..446…India ………..(1,366,000,000)
2,363 1171…China ………(1,398,000,000)

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RickWill
May 11, 2021 3:55 pm

I think it sad that a Chinese reporter actually felt inclined to respond to her dimwitted remarks. They must be short of real news.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  RickWill
May 11, 2021 5:43 pm

Yes do not give them a platform….use their strategy against them.

John Endicott
Reply to  RickWill
May 12, 2021 7:40 am

I don’t think the Chinese reporter had much choice in the matter. The ruling elite in China take umbrage at any perceived or imagined slight to China. Responding isn’t optional, it’s required.

Alan
May 11, 2021 3:58 pm

That’s one thing I can agree with China.

B Clarke
May 11, 2021 4:13 pm

A quote from greta’s tweet above.

“But that’s of course no excuse for ruining future and present living conditions ”

Present living conditions are being eroded by you greta and your green blob , its not China making new climate and environmental laws ,its Western governments who you fly the flag for, who appear to be endorsing every thing you say, infact there pulling your strings gret your a muppit being manipulated.

George Ellis
May 11, 2021 4:15 pm

My thoughts immediately went to, “even a broken clock is right twice a day.”

Gordon A. Dressler
May 11, 2021 4:51 pm

May I be the first to say it . . . How dare they!

markl
May 11, 2021 5:02 pm

The “China is a developing country” misrepresentation needs to stop. By what criteria are they allowed to be called that? They’re the only country putting up a space station on their own if proof is needed.

Doonman
Reply to  markl
May 11, 2021 5:49 pm

Don’t worry, they’ve been developing for 6000 years. As we all know, there is no time limit placed on developing countries. Besides, chinese peasants still do their laundry in lakes and streams and don’t have sewers. So it wouldn’t be fair to say that, until they all live like Europeans and Americans, you know, the developed countries.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Doonman
May 12, 2021 6:06 am

The way things are going many peasants in Europe and the US will soon be doing their laundry in lakes and streams; at least during the regularly scheduled blackouts!

CO2isLife
May 11, 2021 5:32 pm

Here are the Monthly Charts for the South Pole. You will see that if you identify locations that are shielded from the Urban Heat Island Effect and Water Vapor, you get no warming even though CO2 has increased from 336.84 ppm in 1979 to 414.24 ppm today, a 23% increase.

Here are the charts and undeniable evidence CO2 doesn’t cause warming.

https://imgur.com/a/mHIjixS

WUWT, you should do a report on why Antarctica isn’t warming with higher CO2. The evidence is undeniable.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  CO2isLife
May 11, 2021 6:06 pm

I think I saw where NOAA is saying CO2 is up to 421ppm now.

CO2 is UP, Temperatures are Down.

Doonman
May 11, 2021 5:32 pm

News flash! Even communists tell the truth sometimes, but only when it benefits them.

Remember, in Sept 2016 at a joint meeting in Hangzhou, China Obama and Xi Jinping formally committed each country to the Paris Accord.

So the question is now, What’s Greta got against the Paris accord?

Andy Espersen
May 11, 2021 5:52 pm

There can be no discussion about that : China is dead right.

Gary Pearse
May 11, 2021 5:59 pm

Lu Xue is of course correct in the assessment of Thunberg’s lack of real knowledge of climate and the manipulation of this unfortunate girl by family, activists and politicians.

However, the angry grade school level of response of China’s spokesperson -all ad hominem and zero rebuttal – to her claims is very telling. What Greta said is the real elephant in the room. Even sceptics seem to think that arguing the science is the right course to kill this thing off – a sort of Marquis of Queensbury agreement on rules of engagement.

Greta may not have a clue about any scientific aspect of global warming theory (she’s an activist and in many respects not less knowledgeable than many of the climate wroughters who call what they do science). On the subject of China’s galloping rate of CO2 emissions, she has hit the nail on the head. That emissions from China and others in Asia and Africa will overwhelm the puny West reductions is a certainty. The Paris Accord is dead.

Recently, John Kerry and Joe Biden, and now Greta have recognized the elephant that has already made the Accord a dead issue. If this odd intersection of minds knows this, who doesn’t know?

Joel O'Bryan
May 11, 2021 5:59 pm

Everyone is playing their role in this kabuki theater.

  • If we didn’t have Communist China boogeyman as the World’s biggest polluter and emitter of CO2, then we’d have to invent one.
  • If we didn’t have a petulant ignorant teenager lecturing the world’s leaders on complex energy policies and priorities, we’d have to invent a Greta puppet.
  • If we didn’t have stupid US President, we’d have to invent one, like the Left did with Trump and now tries to hide about Dementia Joe.

It is just that as the world’s population has grown, the relationships have become more interdependent on international trade and capital, the stakes in this theater dance are higher than they’ve ever been at any time in human history… bcasue we are all so interconnected.
And all it takes is one ill-placed lit match to burn it all down.

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John Endicott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
May 12, 2021 7:43 am

If we didn’t have a petulant ignorant teenager lecturing the world’s leaders on complex energy policies and priorities, we’d have to invent a Greta puppet.

No need for us to invent one as someone already did.

Shoki Kaneda
May 11, 2021 6:00 pm

I seldom agree with CCP, but this is one instance when I do.

Tom Abbott
May 11, 2021 6:12 pm

None of these other Western Alarmists seem to want to take on the Chicoms over their emissions. Greta is fighting this battle all by herself.

You’re right, Greta. If CO2 is a problem, then the Chicoms are contributing the most to that problem.

I would criticize the Chicoms right along with you, except I don’t think CO2 is a problem, so criticism is not warranted in this case, imo.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
May 11, 2021 6:23 pm

Wow! A banner day indeed! I can agree with both Greta and China!:

First up, Greta:

But that’s of course no excuse for ruining future and present living conditions. We can’t solve the climate crisis unless China drastically changes course.

And the riposte:

Li said, in a bid to achieve their political intents, some Western political forces manipulate teenagers, treating Thunberg as a political puppet. This practice is unethical and despicable.

Oooh, that’s gotta hurt. Especially as the “despicable practice” of manipulating teenagers is unknown in China.

I’m waiting to see how the Carbon Cult is going to spin this so it’s OK for China to emit more CO2 than the US and EU combined, as long as their per-capita emissions are lower. By that logic we could fight climate change by adding another 100 million to the US population and thus lower our per-capita emissions. With Biden immigration policies, that might actually happen.

John Endicott
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
May 12, 2021 7:47 am

Indeed. Both make good points.

For Greta: if you believe in a climate crisis caused by Man’s emission of CO2, then you can’t avoid the elephant in the room that is China and it’s emissions

For China: why should anybody take seriously what an ignorant, high school drop-out has to say on the matter?

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Art
May 11, 2021 7:24 pm

“China Suggests Greta Thunberg is an Ignorant Political Puppet.”
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Gee, ya think?

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Skeptic
May 11, 2021 7:27 pm

She’s a MINDA

Pat from kerbob
May 11, 2021 7:30 pm

Personally I feel sorry for Greta. Her family and helpers have abused her and when the gig is up she’ll be a laughing stock.

One day she is going to wake up and finally understand who actually stole her childhood and she is going to be pissed.

I suggest her parents should hide all the sharps.

Joel Snider
May 11, 2021 7:55 pm

Well. She is. Among others.

ResourceGuy
May 11, 2021 8:00 pm

China wins again with the truth this time.

Ian Coleman
May 11, 2021 9:31 pm

Greta was probably just a fad. An outraged and perfectly sincere child is lot more appealing than an outraged, perfectly sincere teenager. I’m sorry I’m too old to see it happen, but thirty years from now, she will be 48, and the world will not have become uninhabitable because of the burning of fossil fuels, and she will have long since realized that she had been had. I wonder how she’ll feel about it.

griff
Reply to  Ian Coleman
May 12, 2021 12:24 am

no, it won’t be uninhabitable, because of the people who listened to her and acted and resolved the problem…

John Endicott
Reply to  griff
May 12, 2021 7:56 am

No, it won’t be uninhabitable because the “problem” wasn’t a real problem to begin with. What it will be, however, is a very miserable place due to energy poverty (think poverty stricken areas of Africa on a global scale).

Ian Coleman
Reply to  griff
May 12, 2021 10:25 am

Actually, Griff, the solution to the problem is to find reliable, affordable alternatives to fossil fuels. Those don’t exist. What are the main contenders? Wind turbines and solar cells? The cannot possibly work.

I live in Western Canada, where we have a town called Rimbey. Population 2500, powered by a coal-fired generator plant. It would be impossible to replace the plant with wind turbines. Think of the cost of the land, the cost of manufacturing and erecting the towers, and the necessary back-up of a fossil fuel power source to smooth out the inherent inconsistency of the wind turbines as a power source. The cost would be something like a hundred million dollars. For a town of 2500 souls.

“Sustainable” energy sources (which are unsustainable if you actually use the correct definition of the word sustainable) are a fantasy. That’s just a fact.

But no, the world will not become uninhabitable, because the problem is imaginary. How gullible do you have to be to believe that the Earth’s temperature is contingent on the concentration of a trace gas in the atmosphere, and that there are computer algorithms that can predict the climate of the future by extrapolating from that concentration? The story on its face is preposterous.

Redge
May 11, 2021 11:31 pm

China Suggests Greta Thunberg is an Ignorant Political Puppet

And they would be correct.

griff
Reply to  Redge
May 12, 2021 12:23 am

but they are suggesting that because what she says is inconvenient to China… which probably means she is right…

Redge
Reply to  griff
May 12, 2021 10:53 am

Griff, mate.

Evidence for a 15-year old (as was), controlled by her left-wing parents and minder, has sufficient knowledge of a complex world.

No answer = you have none.

Patrick MJD
May 11, 2021 11:59 pm

There are a surprising number of people who listen to and value her words even though she was out of school at the time and has no scientific training. There are several examples where “adults” listen to kids and it does not end well.

Richard Page
Reply to  Patrick MJD
May 12, 2021 2:58 pm

I believe there is a track record of kids raising false alarm for giggles before getting their cruel but righteous comeuppance.

David Guy-Johnson
May 12, 2021 12:07 am

Well, you can’t argue with that

Josie
May 12, 2021 12:20 am

Happen to agree with mr Lu Xue on this one. Next thing you know I’ll be on Tiktok for some fun hmmm.

Ed Zuiderwijk
May 12, 2021 1:18 am

A win-win that. The Chinese are of course spot on, but hey, anything annoying them can’t be bad either.

spock
May 12, 2021 1:24 am

Let see her say that on Chinese soil, lets see how brave she is.

BSC
May 12, 2021 3:30 am

I don’t understand what this is all about. After all, wasn’t the whole idea of climate catastrophism that it was to be used as a political weapon against Western society, while giving everyone else a free pass?

Bruce Cobb
May 12, 2021 3:50 am

Within the framework of the Big Lie about CO2, Thunberg is correct about China. And China’s response is incredibly hypocritical. Imagine, a red-fascist state who LIES about everything accusing someone of being a puppet, and her attack on them being politically motivated. China pretends to be going along with the Alarmist scam. Thunberg merely outed them on that.

mikebartnz
May 12, 2021 4:05 am

What I would be intrigued about and it happened in Hawaii not so long ago but is happening in Iceland now where you have rivers of lava probably well over 1,000c. It is still retaining that heat even though flowing through snow and ice. It has got to be doing more than humans can ever do even fifty lane highways in China which would do more than Co2.
I really think that the inmates are now running the asylum.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  mikebartnz
May 12, 2021 4:39 am

Lava is a red herring. It doesn’t contribute much of anything in terms of the overall energy budget of Earth. Neither do cars for that matter, or cities. Man’s CO2 might contribute some small amount of warming, but it is too small to measure or differentiate among the climate “noise”, and certainly too small to affect climate in any significant way.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 12, 2021 5:02 am

They wouldn’t have a clue as to what is happening under the oceans. Recently they discovered I think it was 90 under the West Antarctic shelf.
Without any data don’t tell me it is a red herring. As for cities we wouldn’t have the UHE effect without them.
You can’t tell me that with China building such massive highways where water can’t enter the ground and the surface absorbs so much heat as against a forest that it is not way worse than Co2 would ever be.
You are just running off the mouth saying lava is a red herring.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  mikebartnz
May 12, 2021 6:53 am

You are the one running off the mouth. You don’t have a clue.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 12, 2021 11:13 pm

Well you have totally failed to enlighten me on anything.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 12, 2021 8:00 am

Man’s CO2 might contribute some small amount of warming

Man’s CO2 doesn’t contribute any warming, as it’s not an actual source of energy. At best it contributes to the slowing of cooling. but as you rightly point out:

it is too small to measure or differentiate among the climate “noise”, and certainly too small to affect climate in any significant way.

ozspeaksup
May 12, 2021 5:21 am

well one thing china HAS got right;-)))

Jeffery P
May 12, 2021 5:41 am

Gotta say this about the Chinese — They’re no fools.

Steve Z
May 12, 2021 8:21 am

Lu Xue is correct that Greta Thunberg is an easily-manipulated, ignorant puppet.

But when will China honestly tell us the true origin of the Wuhan Flu, and whether it was deliberately created as a biological weapon? I’m not holding my breath!

Richard Page
Reply to  Steve Z
May 12, 2021 3:05 pm

If it was created as a biological weapon then it’s a pi$$ poor one.
My guess is it was studied in a lab after being harvested from the horseshoe bats, and their shoddy lab protocols let it get out. If you’re going to study stuff like that then step one is to seal the labs damned securely.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Richard Page
May 12, 2021 11:49 pm

But it is very hard to know what something in a lab will do when released to the wild. How many guinea pigs did they have and how long did they have. They may have been under a time limit for release. I myself aren’t convinced by coincidences.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Steve Z
May 12, 2021 11:43 pm

Well we are pretty sure it didn’t come from the wet market but can we be sure the Chinese didn’t release it on purpose as they stopped all internal flights from Wuhan but still allowed international flights to the likes of Italy. They play the game like it is chess so think several moves ahead.

Richard Page
Reply to  mikebartnz
May 13, 2021 6:20 am

Somebody inside the lab may have released it on purpose rather than accidentally (12 monkeys scenario) but if the Chinese wanted to release a weaponised virus then Hong Kong might have suited them better. Just don’t quite buy that scenario in that location.

mikebartnz
Reply to  Richard Page
May 14, 2021 2:06 am

Hong Kong might have been too obvious. As I said they play life like a chess game. I don’t think there was anything accidental about it. The timing was too good.

Paul Penrose
May 12, 2021 9:12 am

Never thought I’d say it, but in this case I agree with China on this one.

TonyG
May 12, 2021 9:36 am

Funny thing is, in this case they are BOTH right.

ResourceGuy
May 12, 2021 10:34 am

Is there a women’s “vo-tech” unit in western China?

ResourceGuy
May 12, 2021 10:37 am

I guess this means the Angry Bird idea was scrapped in favor of a live action robot.

graham dunton
May 12, 2021 1:31 pm

And they would be right of course?

Craig from Oz
May 12, 2021 6:17 pm

China has Broken Clocked this one.

A person with average, or even below average, intelligence but 20 years of experience is much more useful within their field than a highly intelligent noob.

Yes the intelligent one can work out a solution from first principles (aka – reinvent the wheel), but the experienced one can much more quickly just say “It’s a wheel. Here’s the link to our supplier”.

Being a child genius doesn’t automatically mean you are better than an adult. It means you are able to better process and manipulate information relative to people of that age. If you haven’t been exposed to the information in the first place (aka EXPERIENCE) then you may not be useful.

Greta however has shown very little evidence that she is smarter than other children of her generation and has made a career out of openly avoiding learning.

I would trust her on opinions on what it is like to be a guest on a multi million dollar racing yacht sailing across the Atlantic and on how best to get other people to manage your Twit account, but very little else.

Herbert
May 12, 2021 7:17 pm

Will someone tell Greta Thunberg that the Key UN Principle is “Common but Differentiated Responsibilities and Respective Capabilities”?
And the history of this dates from at least the Villach Conference in Austria in 1985.
In short,it was agreed there that when there is a conflict between economic development and environmental responsibilities the former prevail for developing countries.
As Greta recognises,China,India and the 165 developing countries,as Annex11 nations,control the future of carbon dioxide emissions worldwide,(with some 65% of human induced emissions)and as a result there is no intention on their part to prioritise CO2 reductions no matter how many aspirational INDCs they list.
RIP Paris Accord.

Quilter52
May 12, 2021 8:00 pm

I never thought I would agree with anything said by the Chinese government. But they have sure Summarised Greta accurately. If only our governments had been saying that as they should have been a long time ago.

RMT
May 12, 2021 9:30 pm

Greta has crossed the line. She will have to be reeled in and instructed that it is only Western nations, and especially the US, that is the target of her outrage, not China.
She’s young. She will be taught, much like those in Hong Kong have been taught to love mother China.

RMT
May 12, 2021 9:32 pm

So what if China’s share of CO2 output is increasing and now is greater than all developed countries combined.
California is going to cut back on emissions and fight climate change and will make a huge difference in this battle, no matter how much more CO2 and pollutants China emits. California’s less than 1% of CO2 output in the world and the changes demanded by the Democrats will certainly offset any of China’s gains

Phil O'Sophical
May 13, 2021 7:34 am

That China is correct about St Greta’s ignorance and unfitness to comment, is a given. But her written output is almost certainly ghost written by her handlers. And you notice that like any self-respecting Leftie, China’s response does not address ‘her’ actual claims; it just says: well, others do bad things too and some, if lumped together, are worse, so how dare you (to coin a phrase.)

ResourceGuy
May 14, 2021 11:43 am

As with other countries, all China has to do is suddenly start finding defects in imports from Sweden. That will take care of the matter quickly.

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