Biden taps John Kerry as Presidential climate envoy – Expect merging of COVID & Climate – Kerry: ‘You could just as easily replace the words climate change with COVID-19’

Reposted from Climate Depot

Marc Morano: “Former Sec. of State John Kerry is poised to merge ‘climate change’ with COVID-19. Climate and COVID are intertwined in Kerry’s worldview and he will be eager to hitch up the climate ‘solutions’ to the COVID remedies. Expect COVID lockdowns to morph into climate lockdowns.”

See:

The ‘Great Reset’: Rule by Unelected ‘Experts’ – COVID-Climate Technocracy has arrived – ‘The danger of letting lab coats run the world’ – Special Report&

‘Fantastic’ for the climate: Activists See Coronavirus Lockdowns As Dress Rehearsal for ‘Climate Emergency’ – Special Report

John Kerry on coronavirus & climate change: ‘The parallels are screaming at us’ – ‘Cost of climate inaction will match — if not exceed — our current expenditures’– 

“It’s a tragically teachable moment. I don’t say this in a partisan way. But the parallels [between COVID-19 and climate change] are screaming at us, both positive and negative.” –  “You could just as easily replace the words climate change with COVID-19; it is truly the tale of two pandemics deferred, denied, and distorted, one with catastrophic consequences, the other with even greater risk if we don’t reverse course…The long-term parallels between this pandemic and tomorrow’s gathering storm of climate crisis are more clear.” – “If the economic devastation of the coronavirus pandemic is costly today, the cost of climate inaction will match — if not exceed — our current expenditures, which is why the next administration must act with urgency on day one.” – John Kerry, former Sec. of State

Former Sec. of State John Kerry on ‘the parallels between the coronavirus and the climate crisis’: “Climate change is a threat multiplier for pandemic diseases, and zoonotic diseases — 70 percent of all human infections — are impacted by climate change and its effect on animal migration and habitats.”

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Flashback 2015: Then Sec. of State John Kerry explains climate futility: If U.S. zeroed out CO2 emissions, it ‘still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world’

Flashback 2012: Sen. John Kerry as Sec. Of State?! Be Afraid, Kerry’s Poor Understanding of Climate Science Poses Threat to U.S. National Security

By: Marc Morano – Climate Depot November 23, 2020 1:02 PM 


Via MarketWatch: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/biden-taps-john-kerry-as-presidential-envoy-for-climate-2020-11-23

President-elect Joe Biden has tapped former Secretary of State John Kerry as a special presidential envoy for climate, the Biden-Harris transition said Monday. Kerry will sit on the National Security Council, marking the first time the NSC will include an official dedicated to the issue, the transition said. Kerry’s was one of several names released by Biden’s team on Monday, along with secretary of state nominee Antony Blinken and nominee for United Nations ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield.

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Ben Dhyani
November 23, 2020 10:26 pm

Dear God, please help us?

alacran
Reply to  Ben Dhyani
November 24, 2020 1:08 am

Oh Lord and all saints! Save us! We’ll be governed by morons!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  alacran
November 24, 2020 2:43 am

That is already the case.

Greg
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 2:21 pm

Kerry is perfectly correct. The COVID manufactured “crisis” is just an extension of the AGW “crisis”. Neither have anything to do with science an are all about destruction of society and life as we know it.

The destruction of our basic freedoms is the logical next step from non-existent “existential crisis”.

boffin77
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 2:45 pm

“You could just as easily replace the words climate change with COVID-19” Huh? Because they both start with the letter “C” ??

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  boffin77
November 24, 2020 3:31 pm

You could just as easily replace the words “eliminate fossil fuels” with “toss virgins into bonfires to appease the Sky Dragon.” It’s apt to have similar effects.

Left out of these panicky proposals:

1. There’s no proof that reducing CO2 will have any measurable effect on climate. Climate change is much more complex than that. Alarmists’ implicit assumption is that CO2 is the control knob for climate, but the chance that’s true is slim to none.

2. Left out of these drastic action/existential threat jeremiads is the fact that China passed the U.S. in CO2 emissions 20 years ago. China also produces & consumes about half the steel and concrete in the entire world. Both materials have high “carbon footprints” and are essential to modern life. All the hand-wringing over “infrastructure” is meaningless without steel and concrete. China knows that. Americans apparently do not — another grave failure of U.S. education.

3. Even if the U.S. does reduce CO2, China, India and Africa will not. That’s about 4 billion people who aren’t alarmed vs. 330 million who are alarmed, or pretend to be.

4. In short, the Kerry/Gore shtick about climate is ludicrous and counterproductive. Lefties are always worried about “what the neighbors will think” — AKA ‘How other countries regard the United States.” Aren’t they worried that the rest of the world will notice how stupid we are, and what blockheads we choose for leaders?

John Galt III
Reply to  alacran
November 24, 2020 5:04 pm

Went to school with him

Same jerk back in 1958 when my cousin and I were at the same school with him in Massachusetts. Nothing has changed whatsoever. He’s an utter lightweight and a pompous ass.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Ben Dhyani
November 24, 2020 4:14 am

Didn’t you know? CO2 is The God Molecule….

cedarhill
Reply to  Ben Dhyani
November 24, 2020 6:01 am

The issue is whether there will be sufficient backlash to mitigate these folks in 2020 and to remove them in 2024?

The 2020 election may be a grim marker since it shows how extensive their networks and community organizing and propaganda and mandates have been implemented. Oh, and remember, they’re taking names.

Joel Snider
Reply to  cedarhill
November 24, 2020 7:39 am

They’ve hijacked enough of the legal process that it’s probably not possible to block them this way

The only thing that works against fascists is to knuckle-up. That’s what they did.

Reply to  cedarhill
November 24, 2020 1:17 pm

Worst case scenario: The US morphs into a Yugoslavia………..

DonM
Reply to  cedarhill
November 25, 2020 12:08 pm

2022 also comes into play.
See it from their perspective.

They need to keep biden appearing as centered (and lucid) as possible through 2022 to try to hold as many House and Senate seats as possible. If biden is gone, or tries to give too much credence to the squats, or he is drooling too much, then during the 2022 cycle (when they can’t send harris out to stump for the dems because in most cases she is a liability) they will know they are screwed.

They will lie, cheat, steal, and do anything they can to hold or win. But they won’t be able to coordinate as well as during the 2022 cycle.

In 2023, when biden is limited to the soft food diet, they will need to determine who will be their candidate. harris …? She will want it, but others will know she can’t win it. The only way they can win will be the continuance of the cheat and steal.

Fleming C Hobbs
Reply to  Ben Dhyani
November 24, 2020 10:43 am

It’s time to begin an all out assault on Global Warming and Climate Change. What is needed is to provide technical and scientific information to members of the Congressional members so they can attempt to do their best to attack the basics behind the MYTHS. Of course this will be difficult as they will often state that ‘97% of scientist believe in CO2 as a contributor to global warming’. In fact, as pointed out in the book (Inconvenient Truths) this is not true. Members of this site have all of the facts, however, the facts stored on a web site don’t contribute to stopping foolish actions by Congress.

John F Hultquist
November 23, 2020 10:28 pm

John Kerry should be on the USA’s wall of shame.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  John F Hultquist
November 23, 2020 11:34 pm

The Mullahs of Iran are grateful for John Kerry and his work on Iran’s behalf.
Those are the same Mullahs who regularly participate in “Death to America” demonstrations.
Not a coincidence.

P.S. Look for the Persian Gulf to go up in flames in the coming years of Biden-Harris mal-Admin.

Ron Long
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 2:12 am

I think your P.S. is likely correct, Joel, however neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia are inclined to sit around when the threat from Iran is so clear. The recent reports of meetings between leaders of the two countries lends some credence to the idea that, at the minimum, Israel and Saudi Arabia may follow the idea that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. We need to wait to see where the flames are exactly located. Stay safe.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 8:18 am

A Biden administration will do whatever it can to undermine all Trump accomplishments, including his mid east peace efforts, otherwise, they must give Trump credit for a job well done and that would undermine their strategy of hate and loathing. Trump should leave Biden a house warming gift of coordinating with those in the peace deal and taking out Iran’s nuclear facilities. That would definitely get in the way of Kerry getting cozy with the Mullahs.

MarkW
Reply to  co2isnotevil
November 24, 2020 9:35 am

Any other president would have been given a Nobel Peace Prize for this work in promoting Middle East peace.

Joel Snider
Reply to  co2isnotevil
November 24, 2020 11:06 am

That’s the thing – people just can’t internalize how genuinely low-down, shameless, and detestable these modern progressives really are.

They’re like Tanya Harding taking a victory lap and offended when you show them the bloody crowbar.

Except Tanya didn’t actually WIN.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 9:13 am

I worry as much that a Biden Administration may drag the Palestinians back onto center stage, and make them partners for peace again.

Mr.
November 23, 2020 10:30 pm

Australia is a nation that has labored for some 60 decades under the epithet – “poor fella my country”

I think this baton has just been passed to Uncle Sam.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Mr.
November 23, 2020 11:20 pm

The US Democrats frequently have over-reached as then their undoing.
They will likely too this time as well.

Spetzer86
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 6:13 am

That’d be fine if this time we all wouldn’t end up six feet under right with them.

Rune
November 23, 2020 10:31 pm

I welcome this line of thinking, as the virus struggles in warmer and more humid climates. It is obvious we need to do something to accelerate the natural transition to a warmer climate.

Patrick MJD
November 23, 2020 10:42 pm

COVID-19 related. This is the first story I have read about an airline needing a “vaccine” passport to travel with;

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/qantas-looks-at-smartphone-app-for-covid-19-vaccine-passport-20201124-p56hjc.html

So you cannot travel, on Qantas at least, without a smartphone app to show you have had your “shots”. Biometric passports not enough now? I wonder how many other “infectious” diseases will require similar vaccine passports?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 23, 2020 11:28 pm

Is that a problem? In many countries you can’t attend school without evidence of having been vaccinated. What is the difference?

Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 12:41 am

The flu vaccine didn’t work for the Fauci 🤔

And that guy knows everything including that masks don’t work.

Hotscot
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 1:54 am

Izaak Walton

The civilised West is not (yet) a Third World environment.

The people in Developing nations are working hard so they don’t have to be tested to go to school.

You people are working hard to have the world tagged, micro-chipped and corralled.

This is not freedom, this is tyranny.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Hotscot
November 24, 2020 7:31 am

The Chicoms want us to join them in establishing the global tracking of individuals, I read the other day. Yeah, I’ll bet they do.

griff
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 12:33 am

I remind you that in Australia they are back to normal life, thanks to their quarantine in part. why doesn’t this public health measure on a temporary basis make sense?

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 12:59 am

The miracle cure ingredient appears to the approach of summer as much as anything else. Let us see what happens when the Southern Hemisphere winter returns. One thing is for sure, we have flattened the covid curve by flattening our economy. The borrowing in my state is largely to finance government jobs and public infrastructure that may end up like olympic games stadiums. But…lots of people are cheering, the ones who already don’t pay any tax or who have jobs are in government. You should hear them – gee they are right into economics, they know all about public debt and taking advantage of low interest rates and how Keynes = digging and filling in holes in the ground = growth in GDP. They got it all worked out, like pigs in….

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
November 24, 2020 8:10 am

KGotCoA posted: “One thing is for sure, we have flattened the covid curve by flattening our economy.”

The last month of spiking COVID-19 infections and attributed deaths in USA and in most first-world countries in the Northern Hemisphere prove beyond doubt that the COVID “curve” has NOT been flattened despite many economies in those same countries being flattened by government-imposed lockdowns.

SAMURAI
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:05 am

COVID19 cases are low in far-east Asia and Oceania because Asians have a natural T-cell immunity to Coronaviruses due to long exposures to them over the centuries, and also because the strains of COVID19 are weaker than in Europe/Americas…

Mask wearing/economic lockdowns had almost nothing to do with it…

Scissor
Reply to  SAMURAI
November 24, 2020 6:29 am

Yes, this seems to be the major factor which determines a population’s susceptibility.

Other immunity factors come into play, as well, including sunshine which boosts vitamin D, etc. and temperature/humidity roles in physical transmission via aerosols.

Behaviors are important, and isolation can protect individuals, but society needs to function.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:20 am

“griff November 24, 2020 at 12:33 am

I remind you that in Australia they are back to normal life…”

Do you live in Australia? No, I didn’t think so. I remind you that you haven’t a clue what you are talking about RE: Australia. Puhlease shutup!

DaveS
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 5:26 am

Griff not having a clue what he’s talking about? I’m shocked and stunned…

John Endicott
Reply to  DaveS
November 24, 2020 6:37 am

Captain Renault: I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! Griff doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

philincalifornia
Reply to  DaveS
November 24, 2020 10:32 am

We’re his only friends. No one talks to him in real life.

MarkW
Reply to  DaveS
November 24, 2020 8:00 pm

Does he even exist in real life?

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 7:37 am

So – why didn’t the quarantine work everywhere else?

Funny how trolls always seem to leave out perinate facts. Regardless of subject.

John F Hultquist
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 7:42 am

define “temporary”
define “bankrupt”
define “mortgage”
define “jobless”
define “learning”
define “closed”

Make sure your definitions make “sense.”

old construction worker
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 2:06 am

Qantas is not a government organization. They set their own rules that customers must follow. I just hope the governments doesn’t bail them out because of lost revenue.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  old construction worker
November 24, 2020 2:49 am

While this is true, if all carriers adopt the policy, where do I go? QANTAS is bound by federal laws however. So while QUNTAS can refuse someone that has no way to prove a vaccine has been administered, this is not likely to happen. The Irish gimp at the head is thinking people will fall for his tripe and buy his flights. He’s on a losing wicket.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 3:51 am

its bullshit.
I already let the passport expire after 2001 due to the invasive nature of travel regs now
and damned if Id use my phone for any apps or those daft code scan things
calls n text n everything else is turned off
might be a good thing if a lot of people stopped global jaunts anyway
a war with chinas also in the offing
seeing as ohbummer didnt raise a finger to halt the island reclamations and mil installations
guess this lot will now further his good works…
deity help the usa indeed

November 23, 2020 11:15 pm

We cannot let this go on. This election is not over & these kooks cannot get back in power!
Is everybody here aware of Joe Oltmann, who has all the goods on Dominion Voting and Smartware software?

He, We, Whoever must find this guy Eric Coomer who has his fingerprints all over all the swing states and said as much that he had control of the voting to make sure Trump doesn’t win.

We all have to let everyone know and don’t give up, otherwise these Global Warming Kooks are going to take over, and there won’t be much we can do about it !

I’m serious/cereal ! –

– JPP

Izaak Walton
Reply to  JON P PETERSON
November 23, 2020 11:31 pm

Jon,
I hate to break it to you but the election is over and Trump lost by over 6 million votes. Furthermore there is no evidence of fraud or tampering of the votes whether by Dominion or anyone else.

Ben Dhyani
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 12:06 am

The legal challenges are ongoing, fraud may yet be proven Sir.

MarkW
Reply to  Ben Dhyani
November 24, 2020 9:38 am

Fraud has already been proven. However the left doesn’t care, so long as they benefit from it.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 1:01 am

You obviously haven’t heard the many interviews of Joe Oltmann.
And you know nothing about Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting systems.

You should check him out, as Joe Oltmann will likely be a key witness for the flipping of Trump votes to Biden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTw8qwaVAM&t=3494s

– JPP

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 4:36 am

Izaak, the popular vote has nothing to do with electing the President. It is just a meaningless statistic.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom in Florida
November 24, 2020 9:39 am

You know how the left thinks. Whatever statistic that benefits me, is the only one that matters.
Anyone who disagrees is anti-science.

John Endicott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 5:28 am

Izaak, I hate to break it to you but “by over 6 million votes” is a meaningless number because it’s not popular votes that elect presidents in the US, it’s the electoral college, and the EC result hasn’t been certified yet. While it looks likely Biden will prevail (God help us all) it’s not a done deal until the election results have been certified (Will be happening over the course of the next couple of weeks, barring any legal delays that might or might come out of the lawsuits) and the EC electors have cast their votes (happens in Dec) and those votes counted up in the House (Occurs in Jan).

As to “evidence of fraud” there’s plenty of that to be found, if you don’t cover your eyes and plug your ears. The dead vote has been know about for so long it’s become a cliché, Lots of “glitches” that all magically go the same direction. Election rules changed not by the legislatures (the only body allowed to make such changes), Safeguards that were lowered (and in some cases dropped altogether) in the name of the pandemic, make fraud easier to accomplish and harder to detect, it won’t be easy to separate the fraudulent votes from the legal ones.

Whether there’s sufficient amount of it that can be proven and that would affect the outcome of the election is for the courts to decide. Ultimately, it’ll be up to the Trump team to make their case in a court of law. Until they have their day in court, you don’t know what evidence they will present and pretending otherwise just shows us all that you are as stupid as you appear in most of your posts. The odds are certainly stacked against President Trump but we let Gore & Bush have their day in court in 2000 (remember that one? Gore didn’t conceded – or rather he did but than quickly withdrew it – and the lawsuits continued until mid-Dec. when the Supreme Court final ruled on the issue), no reason not to let Trump have his in 2020, what are you afraid of? that the courts will find that there really was fraud going on?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  John Endicott
November 24, 2020 9:45 am

John,
While Trump is entitled to make his case in court so far his team has filed 36 lawsuits the majority of which have been dismissed and the rest even if successful would not change the result of the election. And his team of lawyers appear comically inept, hiring then firing people like Sidney Powell.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 1:25 pm

Powell was never on the official Trump team. She is conducting her own investigation in parallel with Guiliani’s, albeit with a different focus.

MarkW
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 8:03 pm

A bunch of Democrat appointed judges are tossing Trump’s suits.
Big surprise there.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  John Endicott
November 25, 2020 12:40 pm

“God help us all”

When is that going to happen, exactly?

mkelly
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 6:15 am

Izaak more people voted in some Michigan counties than there were registered voters. So there was fraud at some level we just seem unwilling to look under the hood to find out how much. Dead people voted, election laws set by judges/SoStates instead of state legislatures, etc.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  mkelly
November 24, 2020 9:50 am

Again that is nonsense and due to Trump’s lawyers confusing Michigan and Minnesota and using population numbers from the later. Trump really needs some better advisers if he wants to avoid being laughed out of court.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 1:15 pm

The discrepancies were district by district not state by state.
This comes directly from official records.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 6:18 am

More nonsense Izaak. Fraudulent votes! The key is whether there are enough HONEST judges around.

Tired Old Nurse
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 6:49 am

The election is over and Biden will be the next President. However, widespread fraud is manifest. I truly believe that we have seen the last honest election in the US.

MarkW
Reply to  Tired Old Nurse
November 24, 2020 9:41 am

“I truly believe that we have seen the last honest election in the US.”

And it was in 2016.

The reason why the left prefers mail in voting is because it’s even easier to cheat.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 7:21 am

Black Lives Matter was counting the “votes” in Detroit:

https://youtu.be/psGpIuNh_dU

Patrick Byrne discussed this technique with Christopher McDonald, “The used the ‘drop and roll’ technique. .. I think the Democrats have a long history of using black people in very pernicious ways… They’re using the black people as they have done for so many years… At a certain point in the election counting they essentially freeze and see how many ballots they need to get up over the guy who is actually winning and from then on they just set, whatever new batch that comes in is pre-figured. There are some states where they found 53 data points in a row. This will all be revealed in charts that will be coming public tomorrow.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/happening-former-overstock-ceo-patrick-byrne-election-rigged-deeply-used-drop-roll-technique-video/

Graemethecat
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 8:46 am

There are hundreds of affidavits of irregularities at the very least, some coming from registered Democrats. Affidavits are evidence.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 10:47 am

Uh, Isaak – that’s deliberate lying shit, just like every self-serving piece of garbage uttered by a progressive in the last four years.

‘No evidence’ in your world, apparently means the most obvious screw-job in history.

But in fine Goebbels tradition, progressive gutter-slime like yourself will keep repeating it – AFTER several months of almost total censorship.

I hate to break it to you, but we KNOW what happened. Lie about all you want. The democrats wre the rats last time, and they’re the rats again this time.

See, there actually WAS no evidence for Russian collusion, but you pond-scum kept pushing THAT didn’t you?

MarkW
Reply to  Joel Snider
November 24, 2020 8:14 pm

The BBC has declared the election to have been fair and free of fraud, and that settles it for Izaak and the other trolls.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  MarkW
November 25, 2020 9:52 am

So did CISA the official US government agency charged without overseeing election security. If you can’t believe your own government who are you going to believe? Fox News has similarly stated that there is no evidence of fraud on the scale needed to change the result.

DonM
Reply to  MarkW
November 25, 2020 12:31 pm

“If you can’t believe your own government who are you going to believe?”

Now that is one hell of a statement.

Better question: Hypocrite troll, or deluded useful idiot … or both?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 11:21 am

Funny that the Dominion guys split town rather than testify, isn’t Izaak?

Two possibilities – you have not the critical thought capabilities to put two and two together.

Second – you’re a self-serving hack.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 1:19 pm

This article which of course izzy will dismiss with a handwave, does reinforce the fact that the Demonrats have stolen this election. The problem is that while it should be obvious that there was massive fraud, we have no effective recourse. We are officially a banana republic, and kraken-less.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 25, 2020 12:50 am

Rich,
For something that is so obvious such as massive fraud one has to ask is where are the arrests? Barr apparently told the FBI to look into voting irregularities and yet nothing has happened. If there is evidence of fraud then Trump’s lawyers need to produce it in court and that they have failed to do and when questioned claim they don’t have evidence of it.

And the article you mention just says that 2020 was an unusual year. Which should not come as a surprise to anyone and doesn’t demonstrate fraud in any way.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 9:12 am

It would be nice if you left-wingers could make an attempt to acknowledge inconvenient facts and stop clinging to your narratives. For my part, I have tried to do that. I acknowledged that mail-in ballots might have enabled the Dems to perfectly harvest their potential voters without fraud. But if so, why is this concentrated in just a few large cities, conveniently in swing states? If you were an honest person, you’d acknowledge that something is wrong there.

The reason that there are no arrests is because the evidence was destroyed during the crime. Are there video recordings of the counting process? No. Is there proper chain of custody evidence for ballots? No. Is there any way to associate the voter registration data with the ballots that have been separated from their outer envelopes? No.

While we can’t expect arrests for crimes where the evidence has been successfully destroyed, it is still very feasible to demonstrate that the results are so far out of the norm that the probability of it being legitimate is miniscule. We can “know” without being able to “prove”.

The only remedy for these crimes is to invalidate the vote in the jurisdictions where the fraud occurred. That is almost certainly not going to happen, because overwhelming statistical evidence is not proof. So it looks like your boys have gotten away with it.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 9:49 am

Rich,
knowing without being able to prove is never going to stand up in court. It is perhaps the definition of religion rather than science. It is worth noting that the results of the election matched the polls in 48 out of 50 states and the surprise of the election was that Trump did so well in Florida compared to the polls. So perhaps you should be looking at potential fraud in Florida for Trump rather than the other way around.

If there was fraud on the scale you suggested then there would be lots of evidence from the sheer size of it. Somebody would have had to get 100 000 ballots, illegally mark them distribute them to various polling centres, make sure that the voting register did not show the same person voted twice etc etc. Any conspiracy that big would have had leakers and somebody would have tipped off the FBI. Plus somehow they would have to have manipulated every poll since February which showed that Trump was losing.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 10:46 am

What rubbish! Science is the advancement of hypotheses that can never be proven, only disproven. A hypothesis that predicts an outcome and is not disproven, advances to a theory which after many attempts at disproving may be referred to as a Law. But in science, (unlike in your climastrology religion), nothing can ever be proven. Knowing (provisionally) without proving is the definition of science. Believing without objective evidence is the definition of religion. Proof is for the realm of logic and math.

I’m not sure why I imagined that you would engage honestly. You misrepresent the article from the link I posted, which explains why a massive conspiracy is not required to achieve the fix. It requires a few criminals in four cities to create fraudulent voter registrations and then submit fraudulent ballots for them. They don’t need to know that a fake person didn’t already vote.

There is evidence in the form of eyewitness affidavits and statistical anomalies. I agree that the evidence is not likely to be sufficient to prevail in a court of law. Not because it is not evidence, but because it is not sufficient evidence to “prove beyond a reasonable doubt” (a legal term of art), or because it is not considered admissible evidence for one reason or another. Just as polygraph tests are not admissible evidence in a court case, even though government agencies routinely rely on them to make decisions about people’s veracity, it is most likely not admissible evidence to point to statistical anomalies as a form of evidence in a court case. That doesn’t mean that it is not scientific evidence that should persuade a reasonable person that there was foul play.

But we would be talking about reasonable people.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 1:06 pm

Rich,
Currently Biden won the popular vote by over 6 million which is about 4 percent of the votes cast. Given that result why are you surprised that he won the battleground states by a narrow margin? The chances of someone losing the popular vote and winning the electoral college is about 4 percent based on historical averages so given that Biden won the popular vote by a large margin you should expect him to have won in the electoral college as well. There is no statistical anomalies in Biden’s vote. Most media outlets were warning before the election that Trump was likely to get most of votes on election day but that Biden would get significantly more of the postal votes and thus would only emerge as the winner several days after the election which is in fact what happened.

Fraudulent voter registrations are easy to check. All you have to do is knock on the door and ask who lives there. Or check with other governments departments about valid addresses. There would be a clear paper trail of thousands of people who are registered but who don’t exist. In many states and countries anyone can walk up and inspect the voter rolls. So where is the evidence of false registrations?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 3:17 pm

Another link to a better interview more recent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqnpghizpWY

-JPP

Tony Anderson
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 24, 2020 5:38 pm

Izaak Walton, if you are a US citizen, which I’m not, then you don’t understand the method by which a US President is elected. At this time, 25 November, no result has been announced, and will not be announced until the Electoral Colleges meet and declare the winner by democratic votes on December 14, 2020. Only then, will Trump be required to vacate the White House and until then he has the democratic right to challenge the legality of all disputed voted. And well he may lose!

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Tony Anderson
November 24, 2020 7:22 pm

Tony,
Trump has every right to challenge the legality of the election results. However so far his legal team are failing and appear comically inept, from having a press conference next to a sex shop to having dye run down one’s face. And their cases keep getting thrown out of court. Trump is also apparently using the legal challenges as a means to pay off his election debts since the fine print of the emails sent round asking for money states that over 50% will go towards paying off campaign debts. In Milwaukee a Trump lawyer is trying to disqualify a number of ballots including his own claiming they were cast illegally.

And finally even if the remaining lawsuits are decided in Trump’s favour it still will not change the result. So Trump needs to find some competent lawyers if he wants to get anywhere with his legal challenges. His current ones are failing him and making him look ridiculous.

Tony Anderson
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 3:07 am

Izaak, old pal, you miss the point of my argument and desperately play the man to gain conviction. Like most other voters in the US presidential election will still have to wait, both Trump and Biden supporters alike until the date I specified above. Only then, regardless of Giulianni’s hair dye streaking or whether the results are announced outside the local bordello, that date stands and the will of the people prevails.

Reply to  JON P PETERSON
November 24, 2020 1:03 am

“Trump-hating actor Robert De Niro: President’s supporters ‘should be afraid of what’s gonna happen’ when he’s out of office!”
NO ROBERT! You & your other Mob Friends better be afraid of what’s to come with incensed Americans like me which will be 10 time greater than the Tea Party!

– JPP

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  JON P PETERSON
November 24, 2020 5:37 am

You mean the high school dropout DeNiro who plays a hard guy but probably couldn’t beat up my grandmother?

Joel O'Bryan
November 23, 2020 11:15 pm

We can vote our way into Socialism.
We will have to shoot our way out.
Prepare for that.

griff
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 12:34 am

a ridiculous notion.

Look, the USA under Biden has a centre right govt… It is nowhere near socialism.

George Tetley
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:21 am

GRIFf
I often wonder if you are communicating when the hospital orderlies let you out of your jacket.

leitmotif
Reply to  George Tetley
November 24, 2020 2:56 am

Griff IS one of the hospital orderlies. They’ve taken over.

MarkW
Reply to  leitmotif
November 24, 2020 8:16 pm

He’s not an orderly, but he does play one in his mom’s basement.

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:19 am

The TOTALLY DELUSIONAL griffool strikes again

with utter and complete BALDERDASH !!

Gregory Woods
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 4:23 am

Griffy: Do you make such intentionally ridiculous statements just in order to make the sane amongst us angry?

Awaiting your comment…

mkelly
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 6:21 am

Who is center right in Biden admin? And please spell center correctly. That goes for honor, color, theater, etc.

John in Oz
Reply to  mkelly
November 24, 2020 1:51 pm

Be careful with your biases.

Centre, honour, colour and theatre are ‘correct’ spellings in Australia and many other countries. You should also realise that we also have a lot of ‘s’s rather than ‘z’s in our dictionaries.

Griff, however, will still be wrong, no matter which way he spells.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 7:22 am

Kommie Harris is “centre right”?

What color is the sky where you live?

MarkW
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
November 24, 2020 9:45 am

By her voting record, she’s to the left of even Bernie Sanders.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 1:46 pm

I put her together with Jeremy Corbyn, between Trotsky and Lenin. Where would you peg her griff?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Based on his other comments, I’m sure griff would call her a right winger.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 7:56 am

“Look, the USA under Biden has a centre right govt”

If Biden eventually wins, the USA will have a Criminal Enterprise government. All the same Obama administration criminals that trashed the U.S. Constituion in an effort to steal the 2016 presidential election for the Democrats will have been put back in charge of governing the USA.

As we see from 2016, these Criminal Democrats will do anything legal or illegal, to keep their political power, so what do you think they are going to do in the future? Answer: Anything legal or illegal it takes to retain their political power. They will rig elections and prevent any investigations of such things, and they will keep themselves in power in perpetuity. It’s the way Xi operates in China.

We better get down on our knees are pray that the Kraken comes out swiinging and/or that Republicans win the senate races in Georgia, otherwise, we are at the mercy of Democrats who have no mercy. Get in their way and they will crush you. And everyone sees they can do it. They have control of the means of forming public opinion in the lying Leftwing Media and they have control of the power of the federal government and are not deterred from using it to their advantage. They have it all, and if they have no scruples, and they don’t, then they will destroy their political opposition using all means possible. This election was just the first salvo in the Demcrats war on our personal freedoms.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 9:44 am

1) Biden isn’t president yet, so the USA isn’t “under” him.
2) The programs that Biden has promised and that his supporters are demanding are pure socialism and beyond.
3) You have to remember that progressives consider anything that isn’t pure communism to be some form of right wing politics.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 4:22 pm

Yeah – how many times have you heard ‘true socialism has never been tried’? Well, it sure has been tried (see Stalin, Mao, etc.), they’ve just never been able to achieve the 100% totalitarianism necessary.

And while it may be a slim hope, Trump has pulled long odds before – and just try to imagine the progressive reaction if the Supreme Court gives the stolen election back.

The last few weeks would ALMOST be worth it.

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 10:43 am

Grift – are you just purely a clueless moron? Because that’s exactly what they tried to sell.

The only question is whether YOU”RE trying to sell it. You’ve been corrected on many subjects before – you either aren’t capable of learning – or even listening – or you’re a propagandist fraud.

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:42 pm

By the way, Grift – TRUMP was right of center. It’s only in progressive rags is he a right-wing nut.

Or a racist, or a Russian plant, or whatever….

Climate believer
November 23, 2020 11:17 pm

Oh dear….

RickWill
November 23, 2020 11:19 pm

With Trump gone, US can get back on the path of hobbling their industry while sourcing energy intensive manufactured goods from China. Will put upward price pressure on Aussie coal again.

Gas guzzlers will be mandated off the roads making it less crowded for the favoured few who qualify for the Tesla subsidies.

Gee you’re lucky!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  RickWill
November 24, 2020 8:02 am

“Gas guzzlers will be mandated off the roads making it less crowded for the favoured few who qualify for the Tesla subsidies.”

That might lead to a revolt. Americans like their gasoline-powered automobiles. They like cheap gasoline prices, too.

fred250
Reply to  RickWill
November 24, 2020 12:45 pm

“Gas guzzlers will be mandated off the roads”

Will be fun watching how that happens.. people will not like that idea at all. Especially the far-left in Califoonia.

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Joel O'Bryan
November 23, 2020 11:25 pm

Taiwan better brace for the battle to come late January-February with Communist China.
If Taiwan can sink enough PLAN landing craft. shoot down enough PLAAF fighters and sink PLAN ships, then they can fend off the invasion.
I think if Trump can supply them with enough advanced arms in the next 2 months, then Taiwan can make both the CCP and the kowtowing Biden Admin look weak as Taiwan can prevail against a PLAN invasion.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 2:27 am

If it was going to happen it would have by now. It won’t happen.

John Endicott
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 6:31 am

If it was going to happen it would have by now. It won’t happen.

So said the man hurtling past the 12th floor…..

Patrick MJD
Reply to  John Endicott
November 24, 2020 8:00 pm

My reply was to;

“Joel O’Bryan November 23, 2020 at 11:25 pm

Taiwan better brace for the battle to come late January-February with Communist China.”

Even with all the chaos in the world with the US riots, election and COVID-19, giving China an opportunity to invade, they didn’t and they won’t all the while there is a US carrier fleet in the Taiwan Straights (Even if Biden withdraws when he becomes PofTUS).

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 9:45 pm

It’s like the CCP has checklist they are going down in order.

Pacifying and unifying HongKong was right above ditto for Taiwan on that list. Check.
Next up…

And the CCP leadership is banking on Biden appeasement, where they could figure Trump out. His trade sanctions took them off guard and spun their heads. They didn’t know what to make of Trump. Once he’s gone, they know they can count on Hunter to tell his Dementia-ridden Dad to stand down.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 9:46 pm

correction: They could NOT figure Trump out.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 11:27 pm

“Joel O’Bryan November 24, 2020 at 9:45 pm”

We’ll see. Not far away, less than 4 months. If you think China will engage Taiwan within 4 months with a US carrier fleet in the way, I think you have been playing too many virtual reality games.

MarkW
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2020 9:47 am

That China hasn’t done it yet has been based on pure power calculations.
China has not had the military might to over come both the Taiwanese self defense forces plus the US support that would have quickly rushed to the scene.

Once China feels strong enough to win, things will start to change.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 8:02 pm

Yes, and that won’t be Jan-Feb 2021.

John Endicott
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 25, 2020 2:25 am

No it won’t, but that doesn’t mean Jan-2021 won’t set the world off down a road that could eventually reach there. Concentrating on one date a couple months away is short term thinking, China thinks long term. To modify what I said before “so says the man hurtling past the 12th floor as he concentrates on the 11th floor be “no different” and completely fails to acknowledge what awaits when he reaches the ground floor.”

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 25, 2020 8:26 pm

“John Endicott November 25, 2020 at 2:25 am”

I agree. And I did not make the prediction.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 8:20 am

If Biden takes Office, then the Chicoms will no longer feel political pressure to threaten to attack Taiwan. Biden isn’t going to be signing any defense agreements with Taiwan, and he won’t be selling Taiwan any advanced weaponry, and he won’t be challenging the Chicom claims to the South China Sea, including Taiwan, and he won’t be promoting Taiwan as being separate from China, so the Chicoms can relax.

Taiwan is not a threat to China so the Chicoms have no urgent need to attack Taiwan. They do have an urgent need to prevent Taiwan from gaining independance in the minds of the world, and this causes their threatening attitudes. But if Taiwan is alone, and Biden will make it so, then the Chicoms can take their time incorporating Taiwan into China.

Besides, Taiwan could do considerable damage to the Chinese military if a war were to break out. China doesn’t need that. Taiwan isn’t going anywhere and it looks like favorable winds are blowing in China’s direction. China can afford to sit back and relax and let events unfold now that pressure from Trump is gone.

Trump is one of the few leaders who understands “The Big Picture”. Without someone who understands the Big Picture at the helm, we drift aimlessly, and more likely than not, into a lot of avoidable trouble. No Democrat I know understands the Big Picture.

Where are you, Sydney?

Trump is a showman. Maybe Trump is just building up the suspence before letting Sydney unload on the Democrats. A guy can dream, can’t he? 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 9:48 am

A lot of progressives understand the big picture, it’s just that they don’t want the US to “win”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
November 25, 2020 5:21 am

The Leftists just have a different “Big Picture”. Their Big Picture is them being in absolute power.

When I was a young kid, there was a weekly television show named “The Big Picture”. It was a program that focused on politics and military events from around the world. It was a very informative program and gave me a sense of where the US and everyone else in the world stood at that particular time.

That’s what I mean when I say The Big Picture. All dictators undestand the Big Picture because their survival depends on understanding it. Sometimes they misunderstand it, which leads to their downfall.

Politicians in the Western Democracies, especially leftist politicians, do not seem to understand the Big Picture. They have a dangerous gullibility when it comes to human nature. They have an aversion to confronting dictators to begin with, and so fool themselves into thinging they can reason with psychopathic murderers and dictators. So they live in a dangerous Dream World, and definitely don’t see the Big Picture through their delusions. The dictators see the Western politicians are fooling themselves and take advantage of the situation to the detriment of the West.

Trump, on the other hand, does see the Big Picture, has seen it for decades, and when he got the chance, he took actions to make the United States safer. Biden will reverse all these actions if he has a chance.

As former Defense Secretary Gates, who worked in the Obama-Biden administration, says, Joe Biden has not been right on foreign policy in the last 40 years.

Vincent Causey
November 24, 2020 12:21 am

John Kerry is a bit confused. He thinks the cost of climate inaction “will equal or exceed the current expenditure.” The reality is it that it will be the cost of climate ACTION that will exceed the current expenditure. A more astute analysis would have used the disproportionate pandemic responses (which have had little effect on the outcomes, by the way), as a cautionary tale against taking similarly ill thought out disproportionate action which will cost dearly and have even less impact on “climate change” than the covid responses have had on the pandemic. And that is really saying something.

Herbert
Reply to  Vincent Causey
November 24, 2020 2:07 pm

Vincent,
You are right.
According to UN IPCC SR 15 (October 2018) the cost of “action” i.e. ‘combatting climate change’ this century is estimated at US $122 trillion.
That is just one estimate before you get to consider ‘Green New Deal’ figures.
Bjorn Lomborg gives a figure of US $1 trillion to $2 trillion a year going forward.
But the stale mantra of ‘the cost of inaction will exceed the cost of action’ keeps getting recycled ( now by John Kerry).
It is always unaccompanied by any credible figures to support the proposition because there aren’t any.

Flight Level
November 24, 2020 12:29 am

They stole the cake. Now it’s party time. Therefore:
-Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. The moment has come. Brace for impact, brace, brace, brace.

Alas this is NOT a sim proficiency drill…

griff
November 24, 2020 12:31 am

News sources report this man is a ‘moderate’ on climate change and is expected to be tasked right away with reaching out to Republicans, especially over creating new jobs…

This isn’t Genghis Khan… tone down the overreaction maybe?

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:23 am

ROFLMAO

John Kerry is as far left and stupidly idiotic and IGNORANT as you are griff. !

Whatever psycho-delic you have been smoking or injecting…

…… you have have had WAY TOO MUCH of it, and have sunk into a deep abyss of utter DELUSION. !

nottoobrite
Reply to  fred250
November 24, 2020 4:41 am

Amen

Tom in Florida
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 5:13 am

griff still thinks the Guardian is a news source.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Tom in Florida
November 24, 2020 8:04 pm

That is after birds have used it first.

mkelly
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 6:26 am

Griff, any man who lies about his fellow Viet Nam vets and throws his medals away deserves nothing but distain and loathing. He is no moderate he is a lying fraud.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  mkelly
November 24, 2020 8:28 am

“Griff, any man who lies about his fellow Viet Nam vets and throws his medals away”

Kerry didn’t throw his medals away, they were safely hanging on his wall at home. Kerry threw someone else’s medals over the White House fence. A typical, disengenuous action by this traitor to his country.

Kerry has been a traitor to his country on a number of occasions. A dispicable, dangerous human being, imo.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 25, 2020 7:15 am

Kerry is as genuine as a three-dollar bill, and Biden is as bent (in the British sense of the word) as a bad roofing nail.

John Endicott
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 6:29 am

News sources report this man is a ‘moderate’

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 9:49 am

Communists declaring someone to be a moderate.

For some reason I don’t find that very reassuring.

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 10:50 am

Gosh, Grift – it’s almost like you haven’t listened to anything Kerry or the progressive’s have ever said.

Or perhaps you only hear what self-serving crap that you want to.

Certainly you have concerned yourself with ‘overreaction’ from progressives – burning down cities, maybe?

But by all means, keep SAYING things, because the only one you’re really trying to convince is yourself.

Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:23 pm

Kerry is a MODERATE on “climate change”?!?

Earth to Griff: If you create NEW JOBS in order to replace the existing energy supply, the result HAS to be increased energy costs.

As recent posts document, the US energy is about one half of the cost in the UK (I recall 14 cents to 26 cents in US currency) WITH NO IMPACT ON GLOBAL CO2 or TEMPS.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 3:56 pm

Funny, grief!

Is that a reference to traitor John’s “jenjish khan” speech, where he lied about American atrocities in Viet Nam?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 25, 2020 8:29 pm

“griff November 24, 2020 at 12:31 am

News sources report…”

Missed this little gem. You correctly identify your problem.

griff
November 24, 2020 12:37 am

It occurred to me today, sitting in bed with a cup of tea, how much freer of worry I am than the average Watts reader. I have no concern about socialist govt taking my car away and requiring an ID car to go to the movies (or whatever), I don’t believe there’s a huge world elitist conspiracy, a clamp down on free speech or any of the alarmist stuff I read on here.

chill out: have a nice cup of tea.

Derg
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 12:45 am

But you only have 9 years left before the planet burns up 🤓

Isn’t the right Griff?

LdB
Reply to  Derg
November 24, 2020 5:41 am

And he worries about Polar bears, Sea Ice , Rising sea levels and warming temperatures but he is freer … I give you Griff the certified nutcase in need of a shrink 🙂

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:04 am

You weren’t perchance waving with a piece of paper whilst proclaimining peace in our time?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:26 am

“griff November 24, 2020 at 12:37 am

I have no concern about socialist govt taking my car away and requiring an ID car…”

So you go from burning ID car(Do you mean cards a spelling mistake?) to loving them?

“griff November 22, 2020 at 11:33 pm

I write as someone firmly opposed to ID cards and on the public record (in the Daily Telegraph) as promising to burn in public any ID card I’m made to have.”

You do realise these two statements make you look even more the fool (If that were possible).

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:28 am

Yep, you are not worried about anything resembling REALITY..

All you have is your DELUSIONAL PANIC about sea ice..

…. and your anti-science FANTASIES about everything in the world around you.

Science and evidence need never worry while you blank yourself off behind your wall on insanity.

Your mind is not free, you are ALREADY ENSLAVED in a little fairy-tale world of your own making…

…. and will never be able to set your deluded little mind free.

LdB
Reply to  fred250
November 24, 2020 5:46 am

Yes we should organize a burn as much CO2 as we can day for Griff to celebrate his relaxed state.

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 2:37 am

Thing is griff,

…. people with as little self-worth as you, NEED to have someone to tell them exactly how to live their lives..

…. to lead you around like a pig with a ring in its nose.

You could not exist without it.

You are a mindless puppet, with zero free will, and you will always be that way.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 3:21 am

“griff November 24, 2020 at 12:37 am

I have no concern about socialist govt taking my…”

I just realised what an utter moronic statement someone can make. So you are quite happy for a Govn’t to take my (Your)…”thing”? Is that right?

So a car is OK by you?
Your house is OK by you?
Your income is OK by you?

Your freedom?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 3:34 am

“griff November 22, 2020 at 11:33 pm

I write as someone firmly opposed to ID cards and on the public record (in the Daily Telegraph) as promising to burn in public any ID card I’m made to have.”

Would you offset your “carbon” emissions or simply burn you card (Bra)?

sycomputing
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 4:09 am

It occurred to me today . . . how much freer of worry I am than the average Watts reader.

That’s because what scares you most exists in the world least: Freedom from authoritarian progressives in government controlling the behavior of their citizens.

rah
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 4:36 am

“It occurred to me today, sitting in bed with a cup of tea, how much freer of worry I am than the average Watts reader. ”

The ignorant always worry less until The results of their ignorance becomes personal. Then most still don’t understand how they help to bring about their own subjugation.

Joel Snider
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:04 pm

Yeah, right, Grift – you live in your own little world. I guess you missed the last year. You clearly only believe what you want to, and no amount of correction can change your mind.

This is progressivism for you – they make up things to be scared of, and demand compliance from everyone else to alleviate their paranoia and then ignore what’s right in front of them.

Try ‘chill out’ on the well-funded progressive rioters last year, and shove your phony high-horse where the sun don’t shine.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 8:20 pm

Yea, life is so much easier when you have someone else to pay all the bills.
However the poor schleps who are forced to pay for your leisure aren’t as lucky.

mikee
November 24, 2020 2:26 am

What a combination, sleepy Joe and lurch! What could possibly go wrong?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  mikee
November 24, 2020 4:03 am

finding out just what..will be painful

Scissor
Reply to  mikee
November 24, 2020 6:32 am

Bernie Madoff for SEC Chairman might be a worse choice.

Climate believer
Reply to  mikee
November 24, 2020 8:33 am

“What a combination, sleepy Joe and lurch! ”

….lol…. thank you, I knew he reminded me of someone….

RT
November 24, 2020 2:55 am

Biden Admin Centrist? Somebody spiked that KOOL-AID! Sorry to remind you but the short term memory is not your forte. These guys gave 16 Billion to Iran (Death to America crowd). Talk about funding the wrong bunch. They made everything was about race baiting, not helping. They move any further left. They will have to make a right turn just to speak english. The GND policies. Look what they did already to the UK, Australia. This election was stolen. For a man who was lucky to draw 50 people to a rally versus 5-10 thousand for Trump. Using the voting machines that kept the dictators in power. With the honest elections in Venezuela ? The MSM is anything but honest.

Peta of Newark
November 24, 2020 3:03 am

Why didn’t they make an emulsion/solution of dollar bills and inject that into people?
Seems to be the way forward here in the UK.
(Was it ever otherwise)

Maybe coz we use cash made of plastic doped with pig fat? (No, not Fat Pig Boris you muppet)
They use plastic cash in Aus also – makes you wonder innit…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55052381

Rich Davis
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 24, 2020 4:10 pm

Tallow Peta, not lard.

Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2020 4:19 am

It’s going to be up to Congress now, especially the Senate, to hold the line against the Climate Comrades, in their attempts at Making America Weak Again. It’s going to be a long four years. The battle lines are drawn. For Republicans, there can be no “honeymoon” period. It is war from Day One. The only question is, are they up to the challenge?

MarkW
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2020 9:56 am

The Democrats are well on their way to stealing both of the senate elections in Georgia, which will give them control of the Senate.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 10:52 am

This is what I’ve been trying to tell all the apologist idiots. This election was obviously, clearly, stolen, and there’s nothing to stop them from stealing these last two seats.

And they’ll pretend it was all kosher, and act really offended when you call them flat-out what they are.

The republican party has killed itself, by not supporting Trump when it mattered – why in God’s name would anybody support a party that has such contempt for it’s own constituents.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Joel Snider
November 25, 2020 7:18 am

Starting with that idiot con man Paul Ryan who pretended to be the leader of the US House of Representatives.

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
November 25, 2020 1:51 pm

Right on, what a conman he is! Now the POS is on K-Street. Screw the country and still makes money.Big money

On the outer Barcoo
November 24, 2020 4:35 am

The one major industry and its employees chugging on unabated in this pandemic episode is the Public Service. But it won’t be long before the dwindling tax base takes care of that.

Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2020 5:07 am

You could also just as easily replace the words John Kerry with Klimate Komrade Kerry.

observa
November 24, 2020 5:28 am

They’re all climate refugees now-
https://cis.org/Bensman/Will-We-See-Biden-Effect-Border
Good luck without a big moat as they see more potential votes with US citizens’ taxes.

Tired Old Nurse
November 24, 2020 5:52 am

I believe the technical phrase did is ‘WE are SO screwed.’

Yirgach
November 24, 2020 6:57 am

You could just as easily replace the words

Someone has read too much Alice in Wonderland!
Amazing they let this guy walk around in public.

Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 7:24 am

From the article: “Here is the https://t.co/O91vN2KQZl statement on @JoeBiden’s selection of a career-long American traitor @JohnKerry”

Thanks, Steve Milloy, for putting things in perspective.

Yes, we have one traitor, Joe Biden, appointing another traitor, John Kerry, as climate czar. Birds of a Feather, flock/betray their country together.

Gandhi
November 24, 2020 7:28 am

I guarantee you that after the residents of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin get their first monthly $1,700 electric bill that there will be a BIG change in the party controlling the House of Representatives in 2022 and the White House in 2024. The crazy people have stolen this election and we are about to see four years of sheer madness.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gandhi
November 24, 2020 4:14 pm

Or four centuries

Joel Snider
November 24, 2020 7:40 am

Progressives always tell you who they are. They can’t help it. And now, they don’t even bother to hide it.

CD in Wisconsin
November 24, 2020 7:49 am

Forgive me for doing so, but I have to say this one more time: Trump had 4 years to debunk the climate alarmist narrative, and he did next to nothing. There was never any guarantee that he would win on Nov. 3rd. In the absence of the success of his legal challenges, we will have four years of Biden and of climate alarmism shoved down our throats regardless of its scientific validity.

I don’t know why Trump chose to allow the climate alarmist narrative to remain in place unchallenged with the sizable body of science which places serious doubt on its validity, but now we may be paying a dear price for it in the next 4 years…. and maybe beyond.

There are probably only a minority of people here in the U.S. and in the world who truly understand the serious scientific shortcomings of the CAGW theory, and they will probably be ignored and silenced more than ever for the next 4 years (maybe locked up?). Most people in govt, in academia, in the mass media and most of the American people still believe the notion of a climate crisis, so the pushback against it and challenge to it had to come from the top. It did not.

Don’t know if Trump is going to regret his inaction on debunking this issue, but I know I am already. The ignorance of Biden and Kerry on climate is truly profound, and it frankly scares me. Linking climate change with the COVID-19 virus pandemic is the height of stupidity in the absence of scientific evidence. That is clearly a religious statement, and I will guess that Biden and Kerry have little real understanding of the difference between religion and science to begin with.

As Tired Old Nurse said above, we may indeed be SO screwed for the next 4 years. I pray that we are not, but God help us anyway.

Peter W
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 24, 2020 8:47 am

The problem is that Trump is not a scientist, does not have a scientific mind, and avoided the whole issue for lack of any real interest.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Peter W
November 24, 2020 9:06 am

Peter:

Considering that the Democrats are using the climate scare narrative to essentially wage legislative and regulatory war on the fossil fuel industry and infrastructure here in the U.S., Trump’s lack of interest in the subject and science in general turns out to be one his serious shortcomings.

We are now going to find out what the consequences of his lack of interest are going to be.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Peter W
November 24, 2020 9:08 am

A prime example is the Paris Agreement, which he viewed as “unfair”, as opposed to being completely wrong-headed. His thinking, as far as it went, was always way too one-dimensional. Having said that, though, I’m not sure there ever was a possible Rep candidate who would have stood up to the rest of the world, and thumbed his nose at the Paris “Agreement”. These next few years, they need to get busy and find one.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2020 4:28 pm

I don’t think Trump was unaware or uninterested. He was trying to deflect and avoid a substantive debate that he reckoned might lose him some votes. Everyone can theoretically oppose an unfair deal, even if they think climate change is dangerous. Few of us would abandon him for avoiding a full-throated condemnation of climastrology when the practical outcome was no support for “climate action”.

You might have noticed this tactic in the debate where he didn’t like windmills but he liked solar except that it’s not there yet. Pure distraction.

MarkW
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 24, 2020 9:58 am

The problem is that the swamp is deep and wide. It would take 4 or 5 successive administrations to make a significant dent in it.
Just because Trump didn’t focus on what you consider the most important first is not evidence that he did nothing.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2020 12:33 pm

Mark:

When I said “nothing”, I was only talking about pushing back against the CAGW narrative. I acknowledge that Trump did a very good job with the economy prior to the COVID-19 lockdown, I do not argue with that. I did not say that the climate is THE most important issue, and obviously the economy is significantly more important.

My point is that if you want the undermine the game plans of those you oppose, you have to go to the heart of their plans and show why their plans are on shaky ground and don’t hold up when critically analyzed. When the opposition’s argument and beliefs are widely accepted in govt, science, the media and elsewhere, it is probably not easy to “drain the swamp” of those beliefs when one realizes that they don’t hold up under scrutiny and critical analysis.

Fact, sound science, logic and reasoning are not the hallmarks of the Democrats when those things don’t serve the Left’s ideological and political purposes. I don’t know if the Republicans will ever produce someone who would make significantly greater use of facts, sound science, logic and reasoning against the Democrats. It would be great if they did.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 25, 2020 2:00 pm

CD inWis. the man had to deal with impechment,russia hoax etc. He did call cc a hoax! The guy had to fix a bunch of stuff in the US like boarder wall, energy independence NATO not paying for their security and more. I think the man deserves more respect in this country for his dedication.

Gordon A. Dressler
November 24, 2020 7:52 am

Only a day after Biden formally announces Kerry to be his “climate czar” (aka Special Presidential Envoy for Climate), John is already providing some of the best humor to be found on the Web.

According to Kerry, as quoted in the above article: ““You could just as easily replace the words climate change with COVID-19; it is truly the tale of two pandemics deferred, denied, and distorted, one with catastrophic consequences, the other with even greater risk if we don’t reverse course…”

So, according to this Boston College Law School-educated “brilliant mind”, we all can look forward to:
— climate change™ lockdowns
— increasing hospitalizations and hospital ICUs overflowing from those infected by climate change™
— warp-speed development of one or more climate change™ vaccines
— intranational and international travel bans to prevent the global spread of climate change™
— fast-response, free testing of all citizens in all countries to see document those those that test positive for the dangerous memes of climate change™ “denial” or doubt.

Ladies and gentlemen, you just couldn’t make up this stuff if you tried!

Someone . . . please send John Kerry a dictionary with the word “pandemic” bookmarked so that he can be educated on what that term actually means. BTW, exactly how does one “defer” a pandemic???

But it possibly could have been much worse (i.e., funnier) if Biden had appointed AOC to this position.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 24, 2020 11:36 am

As Naomi Seibt stated many times: both catastrophic climate change and the virus were both created by computer models.

– JPP

Christopher Hagan
November 24, 2020 8:07 am

Griff is a (useful idiot). China subsidizes the production of solar panels and windmills so that they will be cheap enough to get us to shut in our oil and gas production which is now inevitable with the China paid off Biden clan.
Then whatever military America has left after the Biden budget cuts to the military will not be able to function as wind mills do not power tanks or aircraft carriers.
China will attack Taiwan and sink a few American aircraft carriers. Biden will declare victory and sue for peace.
All Americas enemies will then smell blood in the water and stop using the USD.
Prices of all those overseas goods will go up 1000% and Americans will know how the Venezuelans feel now.

leowaj
November 24, 2020 8:30 am

I think with Biden’s time in office and likely a deadlocked Congress, the conflict will spill out onto the streets of America. I fully expect to see open rebellions and even more splintering of the American citizenry.

God help us indeed.

Drake
Reply to  leowaj
November 24, 2020 9:41 am

The most thoughtful comment on this thread so far today.

Of course you are assuming Georgia elects at least one Republican Senator.

If the Dems get both then with the Senate they will do whatever they want for 2 years which MAY create a perfect storm on 2022 and landslide takeover of the House by Republicans and possible Senate flip, then the Media will blame the Republicans for not working with Kamala to do what is “best”, or, usually they media says “the smart” thing to do, which, of course is whatever the Dems say.

Reply to  Drake
November 26, 2020 10:53 pm

Not with the Dominion Voting Systems.
Somehow we have to get rid of them – and their software.
Not easily done.

Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 9:01 am

Someone ought to ask John Kerry if he has any evidence showing that CO2 is detrimental to the Earth’s atmosphere or to human beings.

Kerry cannot prove the alarmist claims he is making, and will make in the future. Some smart Republican ought to call him out on it.

Let’s have this debate.

Skeptics say you can’t prove what you claim about CO2, so prove your claims and show the skeptics wrong. If you can. I’m betting on the skeptics being correct that you cannot prove what you claim.

How long will it be before the Democrats take aim at the skeptics? They have to shut us up because we expose their climate change exaggerations and lies. And now they may have the power to censor skeptics.

Ole Griff says he feels real safe in the UK but that’s only because Griff doesn’t violate the censorship laws put in place there by his Leftists Masters. If Griff voices the wrong opinion online, he will have the police knocking on his door. I don’t have that to worry about here in the good ole USA. Yet. Give the Authoritarians time.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 11:18 am

Well, first John Kerry needs to state what exactly he means by the term “climate change” . . . so far nobody else has done this successfully.

His future boss, Joe Biden, has officially declared “climate change™” to be a “climate crisis” (trademark pending).

So, is climate change/climate crisis:
— the world getting hotter in summers, or colder in winters?
— the world suffering from flooding, or from droughts?
— the world suffering from too much CO2, or too little CO2 for optimum crop growth to feed humanity?
— the world suffering from too much cloud cover, or too little cloud cover?
— the world suffering from too much or too little atmospheric water vapor (the predominant greenhouse gas)?
— the world suffering from its oceans shifting very slightly in average pH (range of 8.2-8.1)?
— the world suffering from too many insects (pests), or too few insects (species extinction)?
— the world suffering from too many El Ninos, or too many La Ninas?
— the world suffering from too much wind (claimed increase in storms of all types) or too little wind (for windmill power farms to be reliable)?
— the world suffering from currently being in an interglacial period, as opposed to being in a glacial period?
— the world suffering from too many Greta Thunbergs, or too few?
— all of the above, or none of the above but something else?

Hey . . . here’s an idea . . . lets first spend some $billions to find out exactly what we want to change (and whether or not that is even possible) before we set off the spend $trillions to “fix” a problem that might not even be fixable, let alone exist in the first place.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 26, 2020 10:49 pm

None of the alarmists will debate – not in a meaningful way.
Has any debate changed anyone’s mind?
Not mine for sure.

– JPP

old engineer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 3:57 pm

Tom-

“How long will it be before the Democrats take aim at the skeptics?” Unless Trump”s lawyers produce some smoking guns in court real soon, the answer to you question will be: Jan. 22, 2021.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  old engineer
November 25, 2020 5:32 am

I agree with you, oe. It won’t take the radical Democrats long to start calling for censoring Climate Change skeptics.

We may have to migrate back to Usenet.. 🙂

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 25, 2020 7:21 am

Are there any Usenet servers still up and running? Haven’t checked in years…

November 24, 2020 9:06 am

“Envoy” is an interesting word. I believe if you Google “John Kerry, climate czar” you’ll see a slightly…stronger word than “envoy”…I also note that the Oxford definition of “czar” is a teensy bit different than the Merriam-Webster definition of the word…

I suggest you do it quickly before all of the headlines are changed to “Climate Envoy”…

Olen
November 24, 2020 9:11 am

Envoy, a messenger. Kerry likes to dress up like when he appeared before congress in fatigues wearing medals to trash the US military. You can bet his message will be no better for the US.

The good news, he has not got it yet.

mwhite
November 24, 2020 9:12 am

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“Covid-19 Mortality: A Matter of Vulnerability Among Nations Facing Limited Margins of Adaptation”

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.604339/full

“This analysis shows that higher Covid-19 mortality rates are mostly found in countries experiencing higher life expectancies and showing a recent slowdown of this progression. Most of these developed and aging societies are latitudinally located over the 25° parallel. They also have higher GDP and chronic diseases levels (e.g., CVD and cancer) associated with major metabolic risk factors (e.g., inactive lifestyle, sedentarity, and obesity). High temperature and UV levels are associated with low death rates such that northern and western countries pay the most severe toll to Covid-19.”

It goes on……..

Teddy Lee
November 24, 2020 9:23 am

If indeed all is lost,then the next stage must be pushback. Apply economic pressure. Seventy two million Republican voters carry a huge amount of clout.Defund those organisations,businesses and individuals who aided and abetted this fraud.Do use,buy from or support them. YOU DO HAVE THE POWER.ORGANISE! You must coordinate your efforts.
DIS BIG TECH!!!!!! Find an alternative.
This applies to the climate scam also.

niceguy
November 24, 2020 9:45 am

They insist the health crisis (“pandemic”(*), lol) is legit, but at every occasion they show their cards: plandemic.

(*) During a real pandemic, half of Marseille (the town where Dr Didier Raoult works) died. (They did not PCR to count cases, so the number of PCR confirmed cases was actually zero.)

Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2020 10:55 am

Biden and Kerry: Truly a tale of two Climate Idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

mwhite
November 24, 2020 11:19 am

A film in the making covids answer to climate hustle

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/capecrusaders/the-covid-chronicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IcwLxCo2pM

“Wow. Even I’m Blown Away by This One – and that don’t Happen Often!”

William Astley
November 24, 2020 12:00 pm

Kerry is sort of correct. There will be a reset.

The great ‘Reset’ is coming January, 2021. US Milt presentation in January. Covid Origins, US Election, and How the US is Going to Go Forward.

Great news for the American people. Day 1, the covid problem will be solved.

The US Milt got blood samples from local Chinese in October and now understand why covid is not a problem in China.

The CIA Frankfort server, which the US Milt captured, completely documents plots/illegal activities with the Chinese, Dems, and CIA and the entire 2020 Election frauds/illegal activities. (It is the biggest find in intelligence history due to modern technology and piles and piles of idiots running the shows.)

The Dems thought there was no way they could lose, as the CIA, FBI, Masters of the Universe, and most of the other countries, are in on the party/plots. So, the idiots talked and talked in their emails which are on the server. The server has time stamped US election changes and the correspondence back and forth, when the changes are made. Nice to have emails discussing the fixes/frauds/illegal activities on the same server to help the investigators put the puzzle together. Great news for the American people.

November 24, 2020 12:58 pm

What is “screaming at us” is the corruption in the Kerry/Heinz and Biden families.

Chris Heinz was Hunter’s business partner. Fortunately for Chris, after some time he realized at least the appearance of a conflict of interest at the highest levels of the US government and had himself “written out” of the documents of some of the deals.

But never mind, just move along here; nothing to see.

Beta Blocker
November 24, 2020 1:39 pm

The SUPPLY SIDE CARBON EMISSION CONTROL PLAN (SSCECP).

Commenting on another article on WUWT, David Wojick said earlier this month that:

“The American system is specifically designed so that the President has far less power than in the parliamentary system, where he would be head of Congress as well. No kings. Checks and balances. Biden can do very little without full Congressional support, which he will not have.”

The last paragraph from Wojick’s article Biden’s False Climate Promises says this:

“People running for President should only promise to do what Presidents can actually do. They cannot speak for Congress so should not pretend to. Biden’s climate promises are so false they are absurd. You can’t get there from here.”

The reality here is this. Congressional buy-in isn’t needed if the goal is simply to achieve a quick reduction in America’s GHG emissions by any means necessary and without regard to the political consequences. Drawing upon existing legislation in the areas of environmental protection and national security, the president and the Executive Branch already have all the authority needed to enforce a steep reduction in America’s carbon emissions on a fast track schedule.

What would constitute a ‘fast track schedule’? It would be President Obama’s original goal, as he stated it in 2012, of an 80% reduction in America’s GHG emissions by 2050, using 2005 as the baseline.

Climate activist politicians can spend all the money they want to on low carbon energy technology and on Green New Deal projects. Energy conservation is the only way to close the gap between what low-carbon technology can accomplish and what the 80% GHG reduction target demands. In making the transition to the 80% target, strictly enforced energy conservation measures can and must be the most important resource management tool being applied.

The bottom line is that if the 80% GHG reduction target is to be met, Americans must be using half as much energy on a per-capita basis in 2050 as we do today in 2020. If climate change is to be managed in the way the incoming Biden administration will be managing the COVID-19 pandemic, then what amounts to a fossil energy lockdown must be imposed, a.k.a. fuel rationing.

Why rely on the EPA and the Executive Branch?

Fifty years of environmental legislation places responsibility for controlling and reducing emissions of substances identified as dangerous pollutants into the hands of the president and the Environmental Protection Agency. The US Supreme Court has ruled that the process Obama’s EPA followed in identifying carbon emissions as pollutants under the Clean Air Act was proper and so let stand the EPA’s 2009 endangerment finding for carbon.

Other legislation places responsibility for management of critical national security issues into the hands of the president. If the world is indeed burning up because of human-generated carbon emissions, then it is easy enough for the president to argue that anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is a national security threat as well as a global security threat and so falls under the scope of existing national security law.

What will Joe Biden and his climate envoy John Kerry actually do after Biden assumes office?

If human-driven climate change is in fact the urgent crisis climate activists say that it is, a newly inaugurated President Biden has no other choice morally or ethically but to immediately impose a program of carbon fuel rationing on the American people. He must do so as soon as he enters the White House.

How could Joe Biden develop and then enforce a thirty-year carbon fuel rationing program?

Back in mid-September, 2020, I posted a plan on WUWT for reducing America’s carbon emissions 80% by 2050. That target was former President Obama’s original goal as he stated it in 2012. My intention back then, and still is now, to demonstrate how steep reductions in America’s GHG emissions can be accomplished in the absence of any new legislation from Congress.

The plan is entitled the Supply Side Carbon Emission Control Plan (SSCECP). It uses a series of executive orders which combine existing provisions of the Clean Air Act with existing provisions of national security legislation to create an integrated regulatory approach for increasing the cost of all carbon fuels and for systematically restricting their future production and commercial availability.

The SSCECP uses the power of the federal government to create and enforce an artificial shortage of fossil fuels. It directly raises the price of all carbon fuels while directly reducing their future supply and availability, doing so through a process of imposing increasingly severe restrictions on their extraction, import, production, and distribution. In COVID-19 terms, the SSCECP can accurately be described as a phased fossil energy lockdown lasting as long as thirty years.

The plan employs EPA-administered carbon pollution fines as the functional equivalent of a legislated tax on carbon. This approach supplies a powerful incentive for the state governments to participate in directly regulating America’s carbon emissions by assigning them the great bulk of the revenues produced from the EPA’s carbon pollution fines.

As a further measure, a joint inter-agency Carbon Fuels Control Board (CFCB) is established to manage and enforce a phased systematic reduction in the production and distribution of all carbon fuel products. This board would report directly to the president’s Climate Envoy, John Kerry.

As a practical expediency, the SSCECP keeps the import, production, and distribution of carbon fuels in private hands. Rather than nationalizing the oil and gas industry, the plan enlists private corporations as contracted agents in managing the government’s energy rationing programs.

The federal government also guarantees a healthy profit and a steady rate return from the sale of all carbon fuels produced by those private corporations which choose to cooperate in managing the SSCECP’s phased series of GHG reductions. This approach makes the oil and gas industry an ally, not an adversary, in quickly reducing America’s GHG emissions.

The SUPPLY SIDE CARBON EMISSION CONTROL PLAN (SSCECP) — the Major Phases:

The start and end dates listed for each major phase assume Joe Biden is inauagurated as President on January 20th, 2020.

Phase I: Establish a legal basis for regulating all of America’s carbon emissions. (2007-2020. Status complete.)
Phase II: Expand and extend regulation of carbon GHG’s to all major sources of America’s carbon emissions. (01/22/2021 – 12/31/2021)
Phase III: Establish a fully comprehensive regulatory framework for carbon. (01/01/2022 – 12/31/2022)
Phase IV: Implement the carbon pollution regulatory framework. (Year 2023 through the Year 2049)
Phase V: Declare success in reducing America’s carbon emissions 80% by 2050. (If complete by 2050 or some earlier date.)

The SUPPLY SIDE CARBON EMISSION CONTROL PLAN (SSCECP) — a Detailed Description:.

Here are the details of the plan:

Phase I: Establish a legal basis for regulating all of America’s carbon emissions. (2007-2020. Status complete.)

— File and win lawsuits to allow regulation of CO2 and other carbon GHG’s as pollutants under the Clean Air Act. (2007)
— Publish a CAA Section 202 Endangerment Finding as a prototype test case for regulation of carbon GHG’s. (2009)
— Defend the Section 202 Endangerment Finding in the courts. (2010-2012)
— Establish a recent precedent, the COVID-19 pandemic, for taking strong government action in response to a declared national emergency. (2020)

Phase II: Expand and extend regulation of carbon GHG’s to all major sources of America’s carbon emissions. (01/22/2021 – 12/31/2021)

II.A: – Presidential Actions (Joe Biden), Phase II

II.A.1 — Issue an Executive Order declaring a carbon pollution emergency.
II.A.2 — Assign a joint task force of the US Environmental Protection Agency (US-EPA), the US Department of Homeland Security (US-DHS), and the US Department of Energy (US-DOE) to manage the declared emergency.
II.A.3 — Create a joint interagency Carbon Fuels Control Board (CFCB) to manage a phased systematic reduction in the production and distribution of all carbon fuels.
II.A.4 — Place the joint task force and the carbon fuels control board under the direct supervision of the president and his national security staff.
II.A.5 — Issue a series of Executive Orders as needed to define and implement America’s carbon emissions regulatory framework.
II.A.6 — Establish a public relations outreach program to explain and defend the actions being taken.
II.A.7 — Defend the president’s executive orders in the courts.

II.B: – EPA Actions (Carbon Emission Regulation), Phase II

II.B.1 — Publish a Clean Air Act Section 108 Endangerment Finding which complements 2009’s Section 202 finding.
II.B.2 — Declare carbon emissions as Hazardous Air Pollutants (HAPs) under CAA Section 112.
II.B.3 — Establish a National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) for carbon pollution.
II.B.4 — Use the NAAQS for carbon pollution as America’s tie-in to international climate change agreements.
II.B.5 — Defend the Section 108 Endangerment Finding, the NAAQS, and the Section 112 HAP Declaration in the courts.

II.C: – CFCB Actions (Carbon Fuel Rationing), Phase II

II.C.1 — Research and publish a provisional system for government-enforced carbon fuel rationing.
II.C.2 — Defend the provisional system of carbon fuel rationing in the courts.

Phase III: Establish a fully comprehensive regulatory framework for carbon. (01/01/2022 – 12/31/2022)

III.A: – Presidential Actions (Joe Biden), Phase III

III.A.1 — Issue a series of Executive Orders as needed to further define and further implement America’s carbon emissions regulatory framework.
III.A.2 — Monitor and coordinate the activities the US-EPA, the US-DHS, and the US-DOE in response to the carbon pollution emergency.
III.A.3 — Monitor the activities of the Carbon Fuels Control Board (CFCB) in reducing the import, production, and distribution of all carbon fuels.
III.A.4 — Maintain and expand the public relations outreach program needed to explain and defend the anti-carbon actions being taken.
III.A.5 — Defend the president’s executive orders in the courts.

III.B: – EPA Actions (Carbon Emission Regulation), Phase III

III.B.1 — Publish a regulatory framework for carbon pollution under Clean Air Act sections 108, 111, 112, 202, and other CAA sections as applicable.
III.B.2 — Establish cooperative agreements with the states to enforce the EPA’s anti-carbon regulations.
III.B.3 — Establish a system of carbon pollution fines which is the functional equivalent of a legislated tax on carbon.
III.B.4 — Establish the legal basis for assigning all revenues collected from these carbon pollution fines to the states.
III.B.5 — Defend the comprehensive system of carbon pollution regulations in the courts.

III.C: – CFCB Actions (Carbon Fuel Rationing), Phase III

III.C.1 — Establish cooperative agreements with the states to enforce the government’s system of carbon fuel rationing.
III.C.2 — Establish a time-phased, hard-target schedule for reducing the production and distribution of all carbon fuels.
III.C.3 — Establish production control agreements with private sector fossil fuel producers and distributors.
III.C.4 — Establish a guaranteed profit schedule for the carbon fuels industry in return for production & distribution cutbacks.
III.C.5 — Defend the government’s system of carbon fuel rationing in the courts.

Phase IV: Implement the carbon pollution regulatory framework. (Year 2023 through the Year 2049)

IV.A: – Presidential Actions (Joe Biden and his successor climate activist presidents), Phase IV

IV.A.1 — Issue a series of Executive Orders as needed to further define and further implement America’s carbon emissions regulatory framework.
IV.A.2 — Monitor and coordinate the activities the US-EPA, the US-DHS, and the US-DOE in response to the carbon pollution emergency.
IV.A.3 — Monitor the activities of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in enforcing carbon emission regulations.
IV.A.4 — Monitor the activities of the Carbon Fuels Control Board (CFCB) in reducing the import, production, and distribution of all carbon fuels.
IV.A.5 — Maintain and expand the public relations outreach program as needed to further explain and further defend the anti-carbon actions being taken.
IV.A.6 — Defend the president’s executive orders in the courts.

IV.B: – EPA Actions (Carbon Emission Regulation), Phase IV

IV.B.1 — Commence operation of prior agreements with the states for enforcement of the EPA’s anti-carbon regulations.
IV.B.2 — Commence the collection of carbon pollution fines and the distribution of fine revenues to the states.
IV.B.3 — Monitor the effectiveness of the EPA’s carbon regulatory framework in reducing America’s GHG emissions.
IV.B.4 — Monitor the effectiveness of renewable energy projects in reducing America’s GHG emissions.
IV.B.5 — Monitor the effectiveness of energy conservation programs in reducing America’s GHG emissions.
IV.B.6 — Adjust the schedule of carbon pollution fines upward if progress in reducing America’s GHG emissions lags.
IV.B.7 — Defend the EPA’s system of carbon pollution regulations in the courts.

IV.C: – CFCB Actions (Carbon Fuel Rationing), Phase IV

IV.C.1 — Commence operation of prior agreements with the states for enforcement of the government’s system of carbon fuel rationing.
IV.C.2 — Commence operation of production control agreements with private sector fossil fuel producers and distributors.
IV.C.3 — Monitor the compliance of fossil fuel producers and distributors with their CFCB production control agreements.
IV.C.4 — Monitor the profit levels of fossil fuel producers and distributors for conformance with the CFCB’s guaranteed profit schedule.
IV.C.5 — Defend the government-mandated carbon fuel rationing program in the courts.

Phase V: Declare success in reducing America’s carbon emissions 80% by 2050. (If complete by 2050 or some earlier date.)

— The President issues a proclamation that the target of an 80% reduction has been achieved.
— The President, the US-EPA, the US-DHS, and the US-DOE assess the need for continuing the EPA’s anti-carbon regulations and the US Government’s mandatory fuel rationing program as necessary to maintain the 80% goal.
— If a determination is reached that the government’s system of carbon control measures must continue beyond 2050, existing agreements with the states and with private sector fossil fuel producers and distributors are extended with appropriate modifications.
— Defend the government’s anti-carbon measures against emerging lawsuits if these measures must continue beyond 2050

REMARKS:

The Supply Side Carbon Emission Control Plan is completely legal and constitutional. Under current law, it can be implemented unilaterally by the Executive Branch using its existing environmental protection and national security authorities. Not another word of new legislation is needed from Congress either to enable the plan legally or to fund its operation.

Nor does the plan require a separate line of funding in the federal government’s budget. The planning activities and regulation roll-out activities are easily accomplished within the existing spending authorities of the US-EPA, the US-DOE, and the US-DHS.

Even if the House of Representatives and the Senate were both in Republican hands at some point in the next four years, and passed legislation specifically forbidding the adoption of a plan like the SSCECP, a presidential veto can kill that legislation with the stroke of a pen.

A plan like the SSCECP will generate many lawsuits. If the plan is applied with equal force against all major sources of America’s carbon emissions and with equal impact upon all affected economic sectors and demographic groups, those lawsuits will go nowhere. It is specifically designed to survive any lawsuits brought against it.

SUMMARY:

The fact remains that the Executive Branch now has all the authority it needs to quickly reduce America’s carbon emissions on a highly aggressive fast-track schedule. A plan like the SSCECP fits entirely within that authority.

What remains to be seen is whether or not President Elect Biden will use that authority when he takes office in January, 2021.

If climate change is indeed the existential threat to our existence Joe Biden claims that it is, then he is ethically and morally obligated to act in accordance with his claims and to quickly reduce America’s carbon emissions just as far and as fast as current law allows him to do.

Reply to  Beta Blocker
November 26, 2020 9:44 pm

@Beta Blocker:

“. . . .Biden can do very little without full Congressional support, which he will not have.”

If Georgia votes for both Senate Democrats on Jan 5, 2021 he will have the senate and congress – that has got to be stopped in GA.

– JPP

Jeff Id
November 24, 2020 2:10 pm

Pennsylvania had 18 consecutive county vote batches that went 100% for Biden after 5:54 am. This is in the vote record of pennsylvania. The last fraudulent entry was the single entry that switched the vote from Trump to Biden, then normal entries continued but blatantly fraudulent ones stopped.
https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2020/11/23/vote-anomalies-in-pennsylvania/

Robert of Texas
November 24, 2020 2:48 pm

/head_Slap

Groan…

Just what we need, a bunch of witch-doctors in charge of policy.

Well, on the “good” side at least THEY will become richer.

ResourceGuy
November 24, 2020 3:23 pm

The Great Reset is the conversion of the dollar to peso and bolivar standards of credibility in world markets and China moves to the next level of leadership.

November 24, 2020 5:12 pm

“It’s a tragically teachable moment. I don’t say this in a partisan way. But the parallels [between COVID-19 and climate change] are screaming at us, both positive and negative.” – “You could just as easily replace the words climate change with COVID-19; it is truly the tale of two pandemics deferred, denied, and distorted, one with catastrophic consequences, the other with even greater risk if we don’t reverse course…The long-term parallels between this pandemic and tomorrow’s gathering storm of climate crisis are more clear.” – “If the economic devastation of the coronavirus pandemic is costly today, the cost of climate inaction will match — if not exceed — our current expenditures, which is why the next administration must act with urgency on day one.” – John Kerry, former Sec. of State

Posted way back in June 2020:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/06/15/farmers-fear-the-european-green-deal/#comment-3022602
[excerpt]

NOTICE HOW THE GLOBAL WARMING CABAL HAVE LINKED THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND THE COVID-19 FLU? How child prodigies like Greta and academics in non-technical fields have spouted drivel like “to tackle Covid-19 we also have to tackle climate change”? REMEMBER THIS POINT!

We’ve demonstrated many times that alleged dangerous human-made global warming/climate change is not only false, it is fraudulent!
THE CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING (CAGW) AND THE HUMANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE CRISES ARE PROVED FALSE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng., January 10, 2020
thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/the-catastrophic-anthropogenic-global-warming-cagw-and-the-humanmade-climate-change-crises-are-proved-false.pdf

There is a similar high probability that the Covid-19 full-Gulag Lockdown is also a scam. We have experienced many flu epidemics that were more dangerous than Covid-19, with NO lockdowns. Why this flu? Why now? Read my post below for details on Covid-19.

Also, why are Antifa and BLM suddenly exploding onto the scene, trashing downtowns and terrorizing people, allegedly based on the police killing of career criminal George Floyd, who violently abused women? Much better people than Floyd die every day, and nobody cares.

HINT:
All these scams are related, concocted by the Marxist Dems, and have nothing to do with the climate, the mild Covid-19 flu or USA police violence. These are Democrat planned political events by paid demonstrators, intended to derail the investigations into the attempted coup-d’état of Trump via the Russia scam and the false FBI charges against Lt.-Gen. Flynn, and to steal the election so the treasonous acts of the Obama regime remain hidden.

It’s all a smokescreen to hide the criminal activity of the Dems – Try to focus on the big picture good people – It’s not all that complicated.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
November 24, 2020 7:05 pm

WORLD FREEDOM ALLIANCE: STOCKHOLM – PART 1
Nov 17, 2020
Video:

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
November 25, 2020 1:32 am

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CURRENT POLICIES ARE THE QUOTES OF VLADIMIR LENIN.
“Truth is the most precious thing. That’s why we should ration it.”
“We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.”
“There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”
“Free speech is a bourgeois prejudice.”
“The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”
“People always have been and they always will be stupid victims of deceit and self-deception in politics.”
“It is, of course, much easier to shout, abuse, and howl than to attempt to relate, to explain.”
“Democracy is indispensable to socialism.”
“The goal of socialism is communism.”
“The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”
“Trust is good, but control is better.”
“As an ultimate objective, “peace” simply means communist world control.”
“One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers Communist and the disarming of the bourgeoisie the middle class.”
“One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”
“Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.”
https://www.azquotes.com/author/8716-Vladimir_Lenin

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
November 26, 2020 9:31 pm

Both Covid-19 and Climate Change are based on computer models.
They are fairy tails. . .

Naomi Seibt said that.

– JPP

Gregory G Kelly
November 24, 2020 9:06 pm

John Kerry the ‘lip licker’, is just what America deserves. he and the rest of the O’Biden cabinet will bring us much higher gas prices, higher electricity prices and lower productivity overall. We as a nation have become ‘AMORAL’ from the killing of babies to endorsing sexual immorality. God is giving us just exactly what we as a nation deserve.