US Sheriffs Refusing to Enforce Covid-19 Thanksgiving Lockdowns

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; Some sheriffs in areas affected by Coronavirus lockdowns have rejected the idea they will enforce the lockdown orders.

Update 2

Someone just anonymously emailed and said of course the Executive order doesn’t apply to people who live in home. EO states limit 10 or fewer people private residents. Does not state any exceptions.

Albany County Sheriff Craig Apple summarized it best when he said: 

It’s sometimes in the messaging, most people will respond better when asked; not told to do something. Especially when it comes to reducing the spread of CV19 and saving lives.

*************** Original Post*****************

I have received numerous calls, texts, messages, posts and emails inquiring about Governor Cuomo’s Thanksgiving Executive Order and whether the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office intends to enforce it.

First an Executive Order applying directly to citizens for their private conduct is usually not a law in the sense that there are no penalties attached and you can’t be arrested.

Businesses are different. An Executive Order can authorize the State Health Department, the State Liquor Authority, the State Department of Taxation and Finance and other similar Agencies with jurisdiction over businesses, to write up, suspend or revoke their licences and\or fine a business for a violation.

With regard to the Thanksgiving Executive Order, the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office will NOT be enforcing it against our County residents. Frankly, I am not sure it could sustain a Constitutional challenge in Court for several reasons including your house is your castle. And as a Sheriff with a law degree I couldn’t in good faith attempt to defend it in Court, so I won’t.

Who and how many people you invite in to your home is your business, unlike outdoor gatherings which may receive a police response if disorderly or other violations of public nuisance laws occur.

We have limited resources and we have to set priorities, so obtaining a Search Warrant to enter your home to see how many Turkey or Tofu eaters are present is not a priority. We won’t be doing that. The only way to enter your residence is if we have a warrant, we are invited in or an exigent or emergency circumstance exist. We have three patrols a shift for 500 square miles, monitoring Family Dinners aren’t our priority.

So don’t feel a need to hide cars, cover with leaves or walk 3 blocks so your house doesn’t become a target of the Governors EO.

I trust people in Fulton County to use their own judgement on who and how many people they invite. Obviously if you have high risk family members you will weigh the risks to your loved ones versus the reward. Thanksgiving is just that, a time to give thanks for what we have or have received over the year.

2020 has been the most chaotic year for so many people between the CV19, job furloughs, or loss of jobs, interference in education and every other activity. The riots and civil unrest which have cost millions of dollars and damaged or destroyed thousands of businesses and injured multiple people.

The constant barrage of Government Regulations and control over your daily lives has added to mass depression, the exacerbation of other medical conditions due to stress and the disruption of your normal routine. 

Honestly in 2020 we have had all the disasters of the 1900s. A Pandemic(1918-19), a financial depression(1930s) and the civil unrest and riots of the 1960’s. All this in the last 8 months. 

With that said most people want a time to be thankful for the good things we have including family and friends.

I urge you to use good judgement, wear masks, wash and disinfect frequently and social distance. The safety of your loved ones, family and friends should be the priority.

I personally want to thank all the first responders, medical staff from maintenance thru CNAs to Nurses, Doctors and Admin for what they’ve done. I want to thank teachers and administrators, store employees, the businnesses who have tried to keep the people employed and their business operating.

There truly are alot more essential services from DPW employees to Gas stations to repair shops. I know I’m not listing every category but you get the drift.

I want to thank all the employees in all Divisions of the FCSO for what they do every day.

Fulton County Sheriff Richard Giardino

P.s. Thanks to Sheriff Howard for his words.

Source: Fulton County Sheriff Facebook

In NY;

Buffalo, NY – Erie County Sheriff Timothy B. Howard’s statement regarding Thanksgiving.

“I have no plans to utilize my office’s resources or Deputies to break up the great tradition of Thanksgiving dinner,” Sheriff Howard explains. “This national holiday has created longstanding family traditions that are at the heart of America, and these traditions should not be stopped or interrupted by Governor Cuomo’s mandates.”

Howard continues, “My office will respect the sanctity of your home and traditions, and I encourage you to follow your heart and act responsibly, as well as do what’s best for your family.”

“On behalf of everyone at the Erie County Sheriff’s Office, I want to wish you and your family a Happy Thanksgiving.”

Source: Erie County Sheriff Facebook

Texas Governor Abbott has rejected the idea of more lockdowns;

TX Gov. Abbott: ‘No More Lockdowns in the State of Texas’ — ‘Lockdowns Are Overvalued

During Monday’s broadcast of FNC’s “Fox & Friends,” Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) vowed there will be “no more lockdowns” in his state.

As some governors and mayors are increasing restrictions due to spikes in coronavirus cases across the country, Abbott emphasized that the government should not “micromanage the lives of everybody.” He argued that “lockdowns are overvalued” because the virus gets transmitted easily in private gatherings.

“Along the course of dealing with the pandemic, we’ve all learned what works and what does not work. And one thing that government does not need to do is to micromanage the lives of everybody,” Abbott advised.

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Of course even if some Sheriffs are onboard with Covid lockdowns, there are practical issues to consider, like the question of how do Democrats plan to run the country like a police state, if the police have been defunded?

Perhaps in a post police USA, the Democrats could set up a new state security service specifically to address enforcement of lockdown orders and other executive actions.

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November 23, 2020 6:45 pm

Sanity prevails

Joel O'Bryan
November 23, 2020 6:47 pm

Many Eastern Oregon county sheriff departments and police departments have no intention of responding to 9-11 calls that the Governor (Kate Brown, Libtard Party) urged Oregonians to use to report Thanksgiving party violators.

Many Oregon Sheriff’s openly refused to enforce Libtard Gov Brown’s orders in August, and this time will be no different.

Bryan A
November 23, 2020 7:30 pm

EO states limit 10 or fewer people private residents. Does not state any exceptions.

No more than 10 people

Octomom will need to pare down

November 23, 2020 7:30 pm

It’s heartening to know there are still people in authority who have common sense.

Reply to  markl
November 23, 2020 9:44 pm

Most LOCAL law enforcement do. Do you notice who’s trying you defund them? They want a new federal police force that won’t be like LOCAL law enforcement.

Reply to  markl
November 24, 2020 3:16 am

I would like to point out these people have no authority over you. They not here to rule; contrary to some of their beliefs’. They are here to governor and manage the affairs of the state, city, county, etc. Thats it. They are citizens the same as the rest of us.

We have to get out of the habit of calling them “the authorities”.
November 23, 2020 7:31 pm

What does this have to do with climate science?

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to
November 23, 2020 8:29 pm

Dear Bethany,

To answer your question, the same Libtard Gov of Oregon (Kate The Bisexual Wiccan Brown) who ordered mass arrests of Thanksgiving dinner attendees (which sane Sheriffs are ignoring) is a climate crazy who also executive ordered carbon regulations (EO 20-04, directing state agencies to take actions to reduce and regulate greenhouse gas emissions):

Dictators issuing diktats is not the way the United States was established or supposed to run. Our Constitution and the various state constitutions call for laws to be made by democratically elected legislatures with checks and balances including judicial review. Perverse and power-mad tyrants making up laws willy nilly is antithetical to our foundational principles and systems of (self) governance.

If Herr/Fraulein Brown is allowed to stomp on the necks of free people with his/her bizarro authoritarian decrees by fiat, whether regarding the ChiCom Flu or Gerbil Worming, then we are all diminished through loss of our God-given and Constitutionally guaranteed human rights. The “climate science” you refer to is rendered moot when autocratic despots operate with impunity.

Does that clarify things for you?

Reply to
November 23, 2020 10:10 pm

Anyone that reads or has read the blog posts here regularly or even just scans the subject matter of the current posted articles knows subjects of the blog posts are many and varied here with quite a number not having anything directly to do with climate science”. So since you are making clear you are not aware of that Beth then it is logical to deduce you are not a regular. If you are a regular than the question is why did not you not object to the following which were subjects of recent blog posts?:

16-Year-Old Cosmic Mystery Solved, Revealing Stellar Missing Link

German Parliament Accused of Passing a Covid-19 Enabling Act

London Mayor Sadiq Khan Demands Covid-19 Vaccine Apartheid

California Governor Apologises for Breaching his Own Covid-19 Lockdown Rules

Claim: The USA’s Largest Radio Observatory is on the Verge of Structural Collapse

The question is: What’s it to you? I mean we are all guests here that are free to leave when we please if we disagree with the subjects our HOST sees fit to post. It’s called “free speech”. A concept that many seem to have a great deal of difficulty understanding.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to
November 23, 2020 10:40 pm

Climate Change is and always has been just a Trojan Horse container for a Global Socialism agenda.
The Progressives-Democrat-Elites have gotten impatient, with 4 years of being put on-hold by Trump, to run their climate scam to conclusion.
Now they want to put the COVID ‘Great Reset’ forward (aka, Great Leap Forward) to accelerate their run to imposing government controls on the People.
Getting the sheeple to comply with meaningless, ineffective COVID mandates is part of that control, conditioning process.

Reply to
November 24, 2020 6:08 am

Don’t like it? Don’t read it, move on with your life.

Reply to
November 24, 2020 9:12 am

Given your ignorant posts on articles that were 100% climate related, it is reasonable to take your question as a sincere query….


As stated above by Joel, it shares a commonality with the government response/intent, associated with onerous regulation that is stated as addressing a perceived problem but said regulation does little but satisfy political means.

Let us know if you have any other sincere questions.

Tom Abbott
November 23, 2020 7:53 pm

Here’s some unpleasant news about the Wuhan virus

SARS-CoV-2 Causes Heart Damage in 20% of People with Mild or No COVID-19 Symptoms

“With MRI scans, we can see diffused damage and we can see scarring,” he continued. “Diffused damage means something’s going on in the whole of the heart muscle. We saw a five-standard-deviation increase in the amount of water in the heart in 22% of the patients. That’s not found among average people with similar risk factors. That’s a significant change.”

In 20% of the patients, Nagel found scarring, indicating irreversible damage to the heart muscle. Even young, healthy, asymptomatic athletes are showing heart damage that was detected by scans months later.

What is also notable is that only 33 of the 100 patients had been hospitalized for COVID-19. The remaining 67 patients had relatively mild symptoms.”

end excerpt

Even more reason to treat the Wuhan virus with medications just as soon after a positive test as possible. You have to get this virus out of your body fast. Laying at home, even if you are not sick, for weeks while it does its dirty work in your body, is not the way to handle this virus, imo.

Even asymptomatic people appear to be at high risk. So just because the Wuhan virus isn’t making your outwardly sick, it may still be doing damage to your body. High percentages of recovered Wuhan virus patients are showing signs of inflammation, whether they had severe symptoms, or mild symtoms, or no symptoms at all.

You better take that vaccine if you have the opportunity. Introduce your immune system to this threat in a controlled way.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 23, 2020 8:02 pm

A running friend got the Covid and was down for a week and he is now back running. Healthy as can be.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Derg
November 24, 2020 5:44 am

Your friend should consider himself lucky, if he experiences no after effects.

Some people are not seriously affected by the Wuhan virus. Others are very much detrimentally affected by the Wuhan virus.

We cannot tell at the beginning of the infection as to which person will have serious consequences and which person will not. So, to be on the safe side, we should treat *all* those infected as soon as possible. Not doing so means potentially millions of otherwise healthy people will have chronic illnesses requiring long-term medical care.

Gary Wescom
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 23, 2020 8:53 pm

Of course, none of these heart damage diagnosis were before/after scans. Just a low correlation.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gary Wescom
November 24, 2020 5:53 am

So are you dismissing these results?

Twenty or 30 or 40 percent of recovered Wuhan virus patients are showing inflammation in various parts of the body in every study I have seen on the subject. That’s millions of people

SARS-Cov-1, of the year 2003, is still causing adverse health effects in recovered patients today.

SARS-Cov-2 (Wuhan virus) is showing the same kinds of harm, so there is a chance that millions of people will be experiencing adverse health effects from the Wuhan virus for the rest of their lives. Even if the Wuhan virus did not make them feel sick initially.

Pretending that the Wuhan virus is just your average flu bug ignores reality.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 23, 2020 10:50 pm

The AstraZeneca’s Adeno virus-Spike protein vaccine is taker, in my book. Thumbs up on that one.
Way thumbs up. One dose (one shot) is probably all you need too.
The AstraZeneca vaccine is a replication incompetent, live virus vaccine containing the spike (S) protein of SARS-2 to induce a potent immunity that includes T-Cells primed to Th-1 molecular expression pattern. Th-1 phenotype CD4+ T-cells are critical in viral defenses. Th-2 skewed CD4+ T-cells are pathogenic to a respiratory viral defense/response.
The mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna) are to be avoided if you have any auto-immune history such as asthma or eczema as they will induce a Th-2 immunity on responding T-cells, IMO.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 24, 2020 6:06 am

Joel, you have confused me with your post.

Are you saying the Pfizer and Moderna vaccinations will not be effective?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 23, 2020 11:29 pm

Oh my, now that there is some extreme junk science. To wit”This article was corrected on August 25, 2020, to fix pervasive errors in statistical numbers and data in the Abstract, Methods and Results sections, Tables, and Figures 1 and 2.” The subjects were all seriously ill from Covid and almost all the people who become seriously ill from Covid are seriously ill without Covid. The fear mongering continues. Why not read about how many people have serious complications from other common viruses like influenza. Viral diseases frequently affect a small percentage of hosts in unusual and unpleasant ways.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  BCBill
November 24, 2020 6:03 am

“Why not read about how many people have serious complications from other common viruses like influenza.”

There is no comparison between your common influenza and the Wuhan virus when it comes to serious complications. The Wuhan virus causes much more damage to people.

“Viral diseases frequently affect a small percentage of hosts in unusual and unpleasant ways.”

The Wuhan virus affects *large* numbers of people in unusual and unpleasant ways.

oeman 50
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 8:49 am

How about “numbers” of large people?

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 24, 2020 9:46 am

So 20 out of 100 people. No controls, no way of knowing if these people already had damaged hearts before getting infected by C-19. I’d say their conclusions are quite speculative.

Reply to  Paul Penrose
November 25, 2020 7:44 am

I thought randomized controlled studies were required by the covid19 authoritatians… like the Danish mask study which indicates masks DON’T WORK.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 25, 2020 5:12 am

I fully expect to see more of this narrative as a vaccine becomes reality. A shift in gears so to speak to ramp up even more fear. Got to make sure EVERYONE gets their shots you know. Should have been utilizing HCQ months ago. No, I am not an anti-vaxxer.

Elle Webber
November 23, 2020 8:02 pm

Just ask everyone to bring a social justice placard. If police show up, wave the placards and yell “Defund police!”. You’ll be a riot then and not a problem.

November 23, 2020 8:23 pm

“Perhaps in a post police USA, the Democrats could set up a new state security service specifically to address enforcement of lockdown orders and other executive actions.”

Well they already have the brown shirts in ANTIFA and BLM and their propogandists in the press and their information control in social media. The next logical step is a Gestapo.

BTW the Governors of Kansas and S. Dakota have also already stated there will be no more lockdowns in their states and it is highly unlikely that DeSantis in Florida will ever do them either. I suspect that there are many other states in the heartland that will not lockdown again either. All of them see the political consequences that would result if they did that again. There were also several Sheriffs in the LA area of California that refused to enforce the illegal edicts of the Governor.

It was the mob in Boston that got our revolution started. Where will they sprout from this time?

November 23, 2020 10:14 pm

In the Tri-Cities (Pasco, Kennewick, Richland) in southeastern Washington State, gyms and work-out centers are renaming themselves as “Wellness Centers” and are defying Governor Inslee’s EO to shut down — and some restaurants are also refusing to shut down.

November 24, 2020 12:40 am

Covid is still spreading in the USA: the death rate is still high.

Research around the world shows indoor multi family gatherings – parties, social events – are the biggest transmitters of the virus. (Very detailed epidemeology in Germany, for example)

If you don’t have the common sense to limit Thanksgiving to your own household and one or a few other households you see anyway, you are bringing the real possibility of sickness down on your family.

This should be a matter of common sense and concern for your fellow citizens and shouldn’t need enforcing.

Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:50 am

What is the current excess mortality rate? This is the real metric of the Pandemic.

Bryan A
Reply to  Graemethecat
November 24, 2020 10:26 am

Things are far worse in Brazil
The U.S. 12m cases and 250k deaths for a 1/48.1 ratio. The U.S. might lead in cases confirmed but…
Brazil has 6.9m cases and 169k deaths for a death/case ratio of 1/35.9

Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 1:51 am

And yet her in the UK the most recent lockdown was a waste of time. On 31 October the Chief Scientific Officer showed 4 projections of Covid. Two of them (PHE/Cambridge & Imperial) were already invalidated by actual death data on the day they were shown. They had predicted peaks of 4060 deaths per day (4x April) and 2155 per day (2x April) respectively.

The remaining two (LSHTM & Warwick ) predicted peaks of 1835 and 1700 respectively at about 19 December. Scared witless, the Government put the UK in lockdown.

Reality then kicks in. Deaths are of course a lagging indicator of up to 3 weeks. Actual deaths plateaued as early as 9 November (just 9 days after lockdown started). The plateau is about 440 deaths per day, some 45% of the April peak, and 25% of the most optimistic prediction (Warwick).

The result that completely busts the UK covid models though is this: on 12 Novemebr, just 12 days after the lockdown was announced the actual deaths crossed over the lowest uncertainty bound of all the predictions and is getting further below it as time goes on. What effect did UK lockdown #2 have? None.

A similar glance at the ONS R numbers show they were falling a couple of weeks BEFORE the Lockdown #2 was announced.

I don’t the government to impose a lockdown on me or my family. I am quite able to perform my own risk analysis and make my own decisions. I do it every day. Its called living.

Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 3:34 am

As always your lack of common sense is spectacularly.

More People have always gotten sick in the winter months due to humans packing themselves inside small closed spaces. Nothing will change with this virus. The lockdowns will just cause the WUHAN Flu and all viruses/bacteria to spread. Fullstop.

There is literally nothing you can do. Viruses spread.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 3:54 am

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

Reply to  Doug Huffman
November 24, 2020 4:09 am

To believe as Griff does, one has to no know or understand a lot of obvious things, It is a trait essential to those that believe government is what should control every aspect of peoples lives.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 6:10 am

“This should be a matter of common sense”

This, from the guy that thinks we can power the world with windmills.

Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 8:52 am

You know what, Griff? I actually agree with you. It “should be a matter of… concern for… citizens and shouldn’t need enforcing.”

State and local governments should have done nothing regarding enforcement and instead conveyed recommendations and information to the citizens. Because in a sane, civil society with a government run by and accountable to its citizenry, the people hold the sway over their own lives. They are make decisions that are best for their families and themselves. And the government upholds that power and privilege of individual sovereignty.

Instead, dictatorships like the UK and a number of states and cities in the US are implementing police states, inverting the relationship and saying unwittingly (or, worse, wittingly) that people are too stupid to run their own lives, therefore executive orders, laws, masks, social distancing, police, batons, handcuffs, prison cells, house arrest, judges, and juries.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2020 9:57 am

I’m concerned about my fellow citizens that are out of work, depressed and turning to drugs, committing suicide, and turning to crime. I’m concerned about all our children that are being provided a substandard education due to remote learning, and being deprived of needed social contact with other children. I’m concerned about all the poor and starving people around the world that will suffer even more in the upcoming years because an economically weakened US won’t be able to afford to be as generous. How many millions have to suffer and die just so that a few politicians can cover their own asses by “doing something” (lockdowns)? And you are trying to shame ME into supporting it? Shame on YOU.

Reply to  griff
November 25, 2020 8:04 am

IFR vs CFR… two different stats. With @ 10% of population being infected @ June of this year (30+ million), then at least 50 million people have been infected in USA as of november. This means the IFR is at most .5 (and that’s including using the crap criteria put out by CDC as to what should be classified as a covid death). I reckon closer to 70 million have had covid and closer to 150K have actually died due to covid (my guess based on CDCs own stats). This would mean the IFR is closer to .2, which makes it worse than the flu, but by no means catastrophic (especially considering its main audience are 70+ year old comorbid individuals with compromised immune systems).

If you want to spend thanksgiving alone, then do. If you want to lock yourself in the basement, then do. If you want to wear a diaper on your face wherever you go, then do. Just leave me out of it.

Carl Friis-Hansen
November 24, 2020 2:34 am

Griff: “… This should be a matter of common sense and concern for your fellow citizens and shouldn’t need enforcing. …”

Nicolae Ceaușescu had similar measures in place. You were not allowed to assemble in groups and your profile was registered on his secret police’s computers. This made it impossible for people to form action against his dictatorship. It was first until a hacker rendered their database useless, that Nicolae Ceaușescu was overturned.

Why do you think we have climate scare and COVID scare?
Why do you think faulty computer models are used instead of simple extrapolation of historic data?
Why do you think grand total mortality in comparison to previous years are virtually never referred to?
Why do you think any decedent view, even from high ranking doctors, are banned in press and on the Internet?

The list goes on Griff and I hope you will sooner, rather than later, ask yourself these and many more questions.

Doug Huffman
November 24, 2020 3:51 am

Property owners, be they private residential or commercial, will always have the ultimate power in their power to grand or rescind trespass license. No Shoes No Shirt No Service signs are common but with no power in law except as a requirement of trespass license. Look how far the controversy over We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service has gone.

Jeffery P
November 24, 2020 4:07 am

In the USA, laws cannot be created by decree. Only legislatures may create laws. Our founding charter, the US Constitution, explicitly states this.

For law enforcement agencies to enforce these orders would be unconstitutional.

Back in the day when civics was part of the required curriculum for Americans, we may

November 24, 2020 4:26 am

BTW the TSA screened over 3 million people for travel last weekend despite all the travel warnings. I would say that is a pretty clear sign that the attempts to scare people to keep them isolated are starting to fail.

Caligula Jones
November 24, 2020 6:05 am

It will be interesting here in Toronto: we’ve just had a lockdown order from Sunday night for the next 28 days.

A restaurant just gave a press conference that they will be open as usual, quoting the government’s own numbers: of 10,000 COVID19 deaths (or deaths with COVID19 if you prefer)…only 2 were linked to restaurants.

November 24, 2020 6:11 am

Still waiting for all these governors to prove their State Legislatures have passed all these laws. Till then they can al GFTS.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  2hotel9
November 24, 2020 7:15 am

Your local businesses will insist that you pull your panties over your face, and your only option is to go elsewhere. Your neighbor may say, “We’re scared. Put on your pantie or don’t come in.”

John A
November 24, 2020 9:48 am

Quite right. Americans can be trusted to make their own rational decisions about whether they want themselves, their families and/or their friends and neighbors die of a highly contagious virus or more likely suffer life-long medical conditions as a result.

So far, 258000 Americans have died free from government overinvolvement in their lives, with freedom ringing at over 1000 per day going straight to the Lord/Hell (delete as appropriate).

The President has done literally everything he possibly could to hold back the terrible specter of Big Government having golfed nearly every day at his own courses since November 3rd with the taxpayers paying for his secret service detail at full price. He’s doing this for your benefit to keep Congress or medical experts from taking your freedom away with lockdown orders that we know work in every other country (including quite a few shithole ones), but which won’t work in America because people are free.

The currently fatality rate for COVID-19 is around 2% so if this disease rages through the American lower-48, we can look forward to around 6 million Americans die in the liberty that their ancestors fought for, (or maybe much more as the number of cases rises well above the capacity of the hospitals to ventilate or treat them) but at least they won’t die from socialized medicine or having a Democrat in the White House.

Congress managed eight inquiries into the incident surrounding the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi which failed to pin down Hillary Clinton as responsible but has not made one inquiry into the conduct of the President during the pandemic because it knows how well the President has done and there’s no need to ask any questions in the face of such brilliance.

Some naysayers will criticize the President for the collapse of small businesses, but there is one sector of the economy where not one business has failed in the past year and for which the President can take full credit: The Funeral Directors of America.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

Paul Penrose
November 24, 2020 10:05 am

The 4th Amendment to the US Constitution still requires that law enforcement obtain a warrant from a judge before searching our homes against our will. No mayor, governor, legislature, or even the President of the United States can legally issue orders to the contrary. That makes these orders unenforceable and unconstitutional.

John A
Reply to  Paul Penrose
November 24, 2020 11:38 am

The 4th Amendment stops illegal searches of private property without a warrant (unless you’re Breonna Tyalor, natch). It says nothing about keeping people inside those private properties during a deadly pandemic.

That makes your claims about the 4th Amendment hilariously wrong.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  John A
November 25, 2020 9:33 am

I was obviously referring to the limits on the number of people allowed inside private homes, so your argument is a straw-man. Brilliant.

But, since you brought it up, the fifth amendment protects us from being held prisoner in our own homes: “No person shall…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.”

Just declaring C-19 a “deadly pandemic” is not due process. These governor’s orders assume everybody is infected, no evidence necessary, and allow no appeal or the ability to challenge it before a judge. Normal quarantine laws provide for both, and are legal.

You are the one that is hopelessly wrong.

John A
Reply to  Paul Penrose
November 26, 2020 8:57 am


If you were “obviously referring to the limits on the number of people allowed inside private homes” then why point to the 4th Amendment which has no applicability?

As for the 5th ““No person shall…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation”, the only part of the fifth that might apply is the liberty clause and that would depend on whether the government has shown reasonable cause that the virus is real and can be deadly (A: it is)

If you want to carp about it, Trump’s declaration of a “State of Emergency” was exactly the sort of government overreach you’re complaining about, but strangely you never mentioned this before.

Stop bleating about stuff you clearly screwed up. Just man up and admit you were completely wrong to invoke the 4th.

November 24, 2020 11:51 am

If a member of the constabulary knocked on my door at Thanksgiving, I’d invite them in and set a place at the table for them. 🙂

November 24, 2020 6:48 pm

Robert Kennedy Jr has been doing a lot of work with his “Children’s Health Defence Organisation”.

The CDC is over counting covid-19 deaths by 90%

Why is the USA counting deaths of people WITH covid-19 as deaths FROM it? Gunshots, auto accidents are being counted as covid-19 deaths if they test positive.

And now even the CDC is admitting it:

“This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid-19. That’s 9,210 deaths. The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age; 90% in nursing homes. “

John A
Reply to  TRM
November 25, 2020 1:44 am

Total predicted number of excess deaths since 2/1/2020 across the United States: 248,998 – 343,269

Source: CDC

John A
Reply to  TRM
November 25, 2020 5:58 am

Why are people on this blog so incredibly dense?

COVID-19 affects nearly major organ system in the body, not just cause pneumonia. It causes blood clots in the heart and major arteries leading to heart attacks and strokes, clots in or near the liver, kidneys leading to to liver or kidney failure. It causes cytokine storms in the lungs and upper respiratory tract causing people to drown or suffocate if not ventilated and put into induced comas.

Those “co-morbidities” induced by the virus are how the virus kills people. It doesn’t even fight fair, because it disproportionately kills the old, the sick, the immunocompromised and for some reason black people more than white people. And those who survive are likely to suffer long term chronic illnesses well after the virus has gone which due to the fun way healthcare is provisioned in the US, likely means they die early because of liberty or bankruptcy or simply their health insurance company refusing to pay.

But that’s all OK, because it’s ThEiR pRoBlEM nOt MiNe

November 25, 2020 2:45 am

Thank you for sharing these stories. I am very thankful to hear that at least a few police officers know their duty and it is NOT to just blindly follow orders.

John A
Reply to  Jill P Friedman
November 25, 2020 3:23 am

Police officers are there to enforce the law, not pick and choose which ones to enforce. Especially ones where peoples’ lives are at stake.

Americans are dying at around 1000 per day because some precious snowflakes are butthurt that they have to wear masks in indoor public places, wash their hands regularly and maintain social distancing until there’s a working vaccine to stop the spread that they won’t take bEcAuSe ItS bIg GuBmInT and might cause autism, or cancer or turn them in a LIBRUL gay frog or something.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  John A
November 25, 2020 6:17 am

Americans are dying at around 1000 per day even though they have to wear masks in indoor public places, wash their hands regularly and maintain social distancing

There, fixed it for you.

BTW, that’s 1,000 per day, minus…minus…minus…

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.”

John A
Reply to  Caligula Jones
November 26, 2020 9:00 am

Let me quote myself in another answer:

“Those “co-morbidities” induced by the virus are how the virus kills people. It doesn’t even fight fair, because it disproportionately kills the old, the sick, the immunocompromised and for some reason black people more than white people. And those who survive are likely to suffer long term chronic illnesses well after the virus has gone which due to the fun way healthcare is provisioned in the US, likely means they die early because of liberty or bankruptcy or simply their health insurance company refusing to pay.”

In other words, most people are not killed by the virus alone. Most are killed by other conditions which make the vcirus more likely to spread and kill them.

Number 4
December 2, 2020 8:24 am

“Police officers are there to enforce the law, not pick and choose which ones to enforce.”

That defense didn’t work at Nuremberg in 1946. Every crime against humanity carried out by Nasty Adolf’s henchmen was legal under German law at the time, and there was no shortage of willing helpers to pull triggers or wield billy clubs, and snitches ready to denounce their neighbors. Stalin’s agencies worked the same way.
Thankfully here in the US at least, we have the Constitution which officers are sworn to uphold, not the whims or edicts of petty bureaucrats drunk on their own usurped power.

BTW I live in a small town south of DC, if we were losing a thousand people a day, we’d have noticed. Seriously.

Reply to  Number 4
December 2, 2020 12:25 pm

Law enforcement is not involved until state legislatures or Congress actually pass said law. Just cuz a leftist meatheads like Andrew The Insane say something does not make it a law. Sheriffs know this.

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