Guest essay by Eric Worrall
China still has not accepted that shortcomings of their system of government, such as their mistreatment of whistleblowers, decision paralysis in times of crisis, and lack of a free press to expose the mistakes of incompetent officials and politicians, are the main reasons the world was infected with Covid-19.
Chinese Communist Party Accuses Italy of Being Origin of Wuhan Virus
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has jumped on a medical study that suggested the Wuhan virus was present in Italy as early as September to claim that the European nation was the epicentre of the virus rather than China.
A study published in the Italian cancer medical paper, the Tumori Journal, claimed coronavirus antibodies were found in blood samples from cancer screenings carried out in September of last year in Italy, indicating that there may have been coronavirus contact earlier than first believed.
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The dictatorship in Beijing was quick to seize upon the study, however, with Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian, suggesting that the virus may have originated outside of China.
“This once again shows that tracing the virus’s source is a complex scientific question that should be left to scientists. [It] is a developing process that can involve multiple countries,” Mr Zhao said.
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Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/22/china-accuses-italy-of-being-the-origin-of-the-wuhan-virus/
This is not the first time the Chinese Government’s apparent inability to accept responsibility or tell the truth about internal problems has led to deaths.
China also allegedly attempted to cover up the SARS outbreak in 2003. Thankfully in that case the disease outbreak was rapidly contained, despite the Chinese Government’s foolishness. The deadly 2003 strain was much easier to detect than Covid-19, because the infectious period was accompanied by an easily detected low grade fever.
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Showing their Belt and Road buddies their true face. They are a toxic partner in many ways, which the world is being continually informed of by their bellicose stomping aound the globe.
The Russians did it
The Russians did it
The Russians do everything bad
Trump colluded with Russia
Trump colluded with Russia
Trumo does everything bad
Trump the Colluder
Vladimir the Impaler
Trump the Colluder
Vladimir the Impaler
Orange man bad
Orange man really bad
Orange man even worse than we thought
DEMOCRAP PROTEST MARCH SONG.
Without blinking, a gear change to China and Red Man.
Maybe a different key.
Someone had noted in another much earlier post that there were direct flights between Wuhan and Italy.
”The dictatorship in Beijing was quick to seize upon the study, however, with Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian, suggesting that the virus may have originated outside of China.
“This once again shows that tracing the virus’s source is a complex scientific question that should be left to scientists. [It] is a developing process that can involve multiple countries,” Mr Zhao said.”
Believe NOTHING that comes from the ChiComs. NOTHING. Truly, today’s “Evil Empire”.
Don’t buy anything that’s “made in china”, if you can avoid it. The world has to oppose and squeeze these B..stds!
Yes, the Chicoms are definitely today’s Evil Empire.
Trump was building up an alliance with other victims of Chicom aggression, and it could be an effective association, but if Biden takes over, this association will evaporate, and our allies will be seeking to accomodate the Chicoms rather than confront them because they know Biden will be in the pocket of the Chicoms and will not confront China.
A Biden presidency will bring in the Era of Chicom Ascendance.
It looks like there are just too many ignorant people in the Western Democracies to govern ourselves properly. Too many people have been fooled into thinking socialist policies are a good idea.
Let’s hope we can prevent One-Party rule in the United States by at least keeping the U.S. Senate in Republican hands. That will setback the socialist agenda in a big way. If that happens, then Repubicans may be able to take control of the U.S. House of Representatives in the elections of 2022. Might do so even if Republicans don’t hold the Senate. Don’t worry, if Republcians lose control of Senate, we can always count on Joe Manchin to fill the gap and vote against the socialist agenda. Or so he says. He did vote to impeach Trump, so I wouldn’t put much faith in him.
Republicans almost have a majority now in the House, and there are a lot of vulnerable Democrats up for election in two years. Republicans have so many representatives in the House that they could possibly get together with a few disgruntled Democrats and bring bills to the House floor despite Nancy Pelosi opposing them.
The Republicans can bypass Pelosi with just a few Democrat votes, and there are more than a few Democrats (about 25) that are anxious to pass a bill to help people who have lost their jobs and businesses, so there is a lot of pressure to put a clean relief bill on the House floor. Currently, Pelosi is using the need for relief to try to blackmail Republicans into bailing out bankrupt Union pension systems in bankrupt Blue States.
If the Republicans keep control of the U.S. Senate, should they launch an all-out effort to resist the Biden administration, like the Democrats did to Trump? I think Trump still has appointees to his various government agencies that have not received a hearing in the Senate because of Democrat stonewalling and slowwalking of the process. Imagine that, the Democrats are still holding up Trump appointees he needs to run his government. And they are complaining about a few weeks delay in a transition. Can you say “Hypocrit”? That’s the Democrats’ middle name.
The answer to the question is no, the Republicans will not stonewall Biden’s appointments, unless it is truly an agregious one. That is the weakness of the Republicans: They follow the rules while the other side happily breaks the rules at every opportunity, and Republicans let them get away with it. Republicans try to play by the rules, while ruthless Democrats couldn’t care less about any rules. All they care about is acquiring and keeping political power. Whatever that takes, is what they will do, and it doesn’t matter if it is legal or not.
That’s the kind of people who may be governing us in the near future.
The Chinese are just spinning their propaganda. We are waiting for our ‘team’ to present their results.
Covid is a big deal. The origin of Covid is a big deal and will be a big deal when we find out.
I heard the US Military determined the covid virus’ origin this summer and decided they would wait until after the US election to make their announcements concerning the origin of the covid.
I heard the US Military decided when they captured the CIA Frankfort server, that they would explain the origin of covid along with the Frankfort server investigation’s finding, this January.
Nice try China. Told ya. Deflect and create uncertainty. Not that there is anything certain about any of this except total/excess deaths.
My first pick remains an accidental escape from the Wuhan lab as the most likely.
Which lab?
There is exactly one (1), count’em 1, BSL4 laboratory in China doing virology research, likely including “gain of function” research. It is in Wuhan.
There are tens of thousands cities, towns and villages in the world. The virus originated in just one, Wuhan.
Coincidence? Wet markets? No way.
China unleashed this thing on the world from their lab. My only question is whether it was an accident or an act of war. I lean toward the latter. In either case, when will the world demand reparations for the damages that it caused?
In my experience, never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity.
Hanlon’s Razor
Pflashgordon posted: “There is exactly one (1), count’em 1, BSL4 laboratory in China doing virology research . . .”
Not true. According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level ), as of 2018 there were two BSL-4 laboratories in China doing virology research: one in Wuhan, Hubei Province and another in Harbin, Heilongjiang Province.
It seems to me, to be a pointless concern where Covid 19 originated. What is more concerning is where did the bizarre overreaction to it originate and why?
Virus come and exist all the time. They change their outer clothes almost as often as we change our underwear. That new look the virus like to have, can take place whenever and wherever.
Why we have trashed Western society and its economy due to the latest virus fashion, is the big puzzle.
If you are old and weak and suffering from a physical condition that is reducing your ability to fight off infections, then something is going to get you. Very often it is a virus, usually the flu sometimes just a cold.
Covid 19 is another cold virus that has been over hyped. I still do not know of a single person in my contacts that has succumbed to Covid 19? It is coming up to a year since Sars Cov-2 arrived. If it was going to be a pandemic it would have exhibited its deadly characteristics by now……wouldn’t it?
Over 250,000 deaths in the US alone attributed to COVID-19, with admission that most of these may have had comorbidity factors . . . and you have the gall to say “Covid 19 is another cold virus that has been over hyped.”
Cold viruses very rarely cause human deaths . . . most often death results for being infected with a strain of the flu virus.
So, Rod, when was the last time that a flu virus (or combination of flu viruses) together with comorbidity factors killed over one-quarter million US citizens in the span of less than one year? (Hint for you: over the last 79 years, US annual deaths ascribed to the flu have only vary rarely exceeded 50,000 . . . ref: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374803/ )
You see, Rod, objective facts matter, independent of your personal experiences or opinions.
That’s a pretty bold allegation!
The virus probably escaped from the Wuhan virus laboratory through biohazard? and is likely optimized to attack human cells.
“In 2008, Dr. Zhengli Shi’s group [Wuhan Institute of Virology] swapped a SARS RBM [Receptor Binding Motif] into the Spike proteins of several SARS-like bat coronaviruses after introducing a restriction site into a codon-optimized spike gene. They then validated the binding of the resulted chimeric Spike proteins with hACE2 [human ACE2]. Furthermore, in a recent publication, the RBM of SARS-CoV-2 was swapped into the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of SARS-CoV, resulting in a chimeric RBD fully functional in binding hACE2.”
China is saying Italy was the origin of COVID. But wait, weren’t they blaming the US military just a few months ago? Who will they blame next? You can bet that it won’t be the actual source of the outbreak: China itself.
Then it’s true too that Italy invented noodles.
The RNA helixes in the Corona sure do look like noodles. Follow the science!
China says that their total death toll from Covid is 4,600. That is less deaths than Connecticut.
I only have one question about China’s numbers. WTF?
Answer – the US and UK fu*ckup.
Strange no mention of this Milan, Italy, Report :
Scientists of the Italian Fondazione IRCCS Istituto Nazionale dei Tumori have responded to criticism by
epidemiologists challenging their study reporting the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in patients tested for a cancer prevention program back in September 2019. The study found antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 virus in some of the blood samples, supporting the notion that those people had contracted the virus and developed antibodies against it at the time the samples were taken.
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There was definitely a version of this virus present in Europe well before 2020. Serious work needs to be done to see if that virus “mutated” from some precursor.
It looks like China has seen the report. NYC was hit with the Italian variant.
See:
Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0300891620974755
So instead of “Armageddon” Mike Pompeo’s jingoism, how about some serious science?
Well, the virus originated in the US late June 2019.
But the source is not so important anymore.
Important is to fight the dicease.
Not according to your paymasters in china. It was Italy that was the source. Do keep up with the latest propaganda from your leaders least they send you for re-education.
Source?
Now here is the mystery I am trying to solve. I would like to compare COVID 19 total mortality as a subset of total Viral Pneumonia mortality so that a true surplus/deficit of COVID 19 mortality would emerge. Makes sense that surplus/deficit deaths should determined based on comparison of apples to apples. It would be expected that the COVID -19 mortality would have driven the total viral pneumonia mortality above it’s average for the pandemic time period. I don’t think we should assume anything about the relationship of COVID-19 mortality with Viral Pneumonia mortality. The frustrating thing for me is no one has made the comparison.
Viral Pneumonia was surging on the East Coast in Fall 2019…. in some cases a coronavirus was the culprit (I assume one of the 3 non-SARS coronavirus that are attributed to the common cold). I have not seen one study that proves yes or no that SARS CoV-2 (COVID-19) hit the East Coast in Fall of 2019. I do know for sure that a coronavirus was contributing to the surge Fall 2019 viral pneumonia surge but have no idea to what degree since there are many viruses that can precipitate viral pneumonia. In December 2019 I had all the symptoms of COVID…all including the GI symptoms….and prednisone prevented a hospital admission….but I get that sort of thing every 5-6 years cause I am old.
Dear Mr Worral
“In 1999, two colonels in the Chinese Army, Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, published a treatise that would heavily influence Chinese military planning for the following decades. The book was called
Unrestricted Warfare. Its central theses were these:
1 Future wars would be fought across the entire spectrum of human affairs, down to the individual level.
2 The United States would be China’s principal adversary in any future conflict.
3 Alternative methods of “fighting,” such as international law, economic warfare, disruption, trade conflict, currency manipulation, cyber war, terrorism, and population movements, could be just as effective as traditional engagements with military weaponry.
4 American military planners take too narrow a view of the possibilities of future conflicts. They place too much emphasis on hardware and technology, and not enough on social, moral, political, and economic factors.”
How many aspects of the side-principal rule are evident today?
https://qcurtius.com/2016/03/30/the-side-principle-rule-and-unrestricted-warfare-in-chinese-military-doctrine/
DP
DP
I must say, the lack of both self and geopolitical-awareness displayed on these pages is breathtaking at times. Sorry, but where have “y’all” been since 1990?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance
Why is the thought that nations other than the US (and its hand-picked vassals) ought to run their countries, and organize their strategic affairs, for your ultimate benefit?
For the record: I am not a particular fan of how the Chinese order their society. That said, I’ve criss-crossed the territory, and read enough, to conclude that a) their history and culture differ significantly enough to – mostly – resist generally shallow Western analysis and b) they have legitimate concerns about the end-goals of aforementioned US/Atlantic Full Spectrum Dominance.
Peter
Dont forget China banned domestic flights but kept its’ international flights, ensuring locals were protected but not people from other nations.
Thingadonta: “Dont forget China banned domestic flights but kept its’ international flights, ensuring locals were protected but not people from other nations”.
There is a difference between Ockham’s Razor and the vastly underutilized version by Mr Hanlon. Are you sure that’s going to be a profitable line of reasoning? I suspect – no, I am certain – that once we place EVERY country’s responses under the microscope, on a day-by-day timeline, we’re going to find all sorts of nasty critters scurrying about in the petri.
Ah…but I get it: your deeper point is that this would be irrelevant because “our” critters and foibles trump Chinese critters and foibles. Because they’re Chinese.
These are very complex issues, and I suspect (true) historians and (true) scientists will still be poring over the evidence years from now. Unless we all trudge off to a nice, cathartic Global War first – which would render these details irrelevant.
Prove that China did it, with intent and not through stupidity, and I say make them pay. Till then, let’s hold the matches far away from the detonator fuse. And children.
Access to Italian publication
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755
Well, I read that there is much travel between Communist China and Italy because goods are made in Italy to get the Made In Italy cachet.
Wouldn’t surprise me that the virus was skulking around for months if not years, perhaps mutating stronger.
There is a theory that some miners in Communist China were sick with an unknown disease, in hospital for months, well before it popped up into broad awareness. (Such virus often live in bats who are less affected by them, I presume there may be bats in mines. Scientists in Communist China were studying virus using bats.)