Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Remind me again who won the Cold War? The British police are urging ordinary people to inform on neighbours who breach Covid-19 lockdown rules.
UK Police: It’s Your ‘Civic Duty’ to Inform on Fellow Britons Breaching Lockdown
VICTORIA FRIEDMAN
31 Oct 2020A British police chief has said it is the public’s “civic duty” to inform on each other if they are suspected of having breached coronavirus lockdown laws.
Merseyside Chief Constable Andy Cooke also condemned the so-called “sneering culture” which disapproves of snitching.
“People are doing a civic duty in contacting us for the right reasons. The vast majority of people across the country are really concerned about this. Any information that you can give us in relation to breaches will save lives, and that’s why people are doing it,” Chief Constable Cooke said, according to The Mirror.
A number of government ministers in recent months have also told Britons that they should inform on people in their community over perceived social distancing violations, with forces reporting such a high increase in calls, they had to add more telephony shifts in their stations.
The remarks come after the Police and Crime Commissioners for Merseyside and the West Midlands said they would break up family Christmas gatherings if they contravened lockdown rules.
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Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/31/uk-police-its-your-civic-duty-inform-britons-breaching-lockdown/
Boris Johnson to his credit has argued against such unhinged authoritarianism. Boris suggested people should try talking to their neighbours before taking any other action, only call the police for gross breaches of the rules. But pretty much everyone else in the British government seems to be ignoring him.
They delayed the spread, and increased the exposure.
Remember, physical distancing in time, space, and diversity (individual, not color). Despite CDC, WHO assurance, a single person in a compressed band is a potential super spreader. Oh, and wash your hands, avoid cross-contamination with mouth, nose, eyes, and open wounds, and limit your interaction with viral/bacterial collectors a.k.a. “masks” when legally possible.
Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study
People who wear masks should be reported to authorities.
Oh, and speaking of bad choices, wicked solutions, tear down the walls, shut down Planned Parent, a first-order forcing of excess deaths.
In New Zealand this is called “Dobbing someone in” for whatever reason. The Gestapo is alive and well in the UK. I read also that there are “COVID-19” wardens that covertly or overtly patrol areas looking for “rule breakers” with the power of arrest.
When will the children be given their brown shirts?
This encouragement to denounce your neighbours opens up a big field of pay-back to neighbours who have offended you in the past with noisy parties, barking dogs, garbage location infringements, or are people that you just don’t like for any reason. The constabulary in Britain will soon achieve the status of the STASI or Gestapo.
It’s a report for breitbart that you are posting – do you really believe anything they write?
A quick web search brings a number of reports as you have posted. They all lead back to Breitbart!
Worral it may be difficult for you but you must be able to do better than this
“ghalfrunt November 2, 2020 at 1:52 pm
They all lead back to Breitbart!”
No they don’t. All of my family are in the UK and Ireland. They are reporting the same. Local authorities kicked off first in the UK, now it’s national. In Wales you can’t buy certain items in shops, non-essential items like underwear, baby items etc.
Look up the latest scary movie called “Songbird”, took 17 days to make, all about COVID-23, a mutation of COVID-19 and the political reaction to it.
We certainly don’t believe anything you write.
Denying the leftist/marxist authoritarian control agenda is a low stoop even for you, halfrunt.
The police have form for this – back in our first lockdown there was this
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8178219/Would-squeal-neighbour-flouting-rules.html
and it continues with the forthcoming lockdown
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8865723/STEPHEN-GLOVER-rule-law-police-wont-probe-burglary.html
When was Breitbart NOT reliable? On what sorts of subjects?
ghalfrunt
What do you know? That you don’t like BB.
This is now a police state, why not visit and see for yourself…
Priti Patel will order police to stop protests involving more than TWO people
…senior officers are worried that the move is too oppressive for a liberal society.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8907783/Home-Secretary-Priti-Patel-order-police-stop-protests-involving-TWO-people.html
So much for the rule of 6
They’re just getting started.
Yes only approved leftist sources are acceptable. Right ghalfrunt! Can you refute the content? Of course not!
Tell me. When is NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT and a whole host of others going to admit that they were wrong about Trump colluding with Russia? You people have no idea how much the cred of those sources has been tattered in their all out campaigns to unseat this duly elected president by any means possible.
If lockdowns worked why are we here? Keep doing the same thing, get the same outcome.
You’d think with Sweden right there in Europe the other European countries would have noticed by now that what the Swedes did worked better.
At least in the US we all understand the Dem governors did the lockdowns to destroy the economy & help the Dem president candidate. What is Europe’s excuse?
Sweden has faster rising case numbers than germany etc. (per 1M)
swedish deaths are worse than Norway (per 1M) etc.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
new deaths per million
UK = 2.4
Germany = 0.6
Sweden = ZERO !
More clicking still. Australia has to do 3,500 tests to get each positive result. People don’t have to have symptoms to be tested (and certainly not to be called a case).
We could have had another lockdown to, but we were exhausted.
“We could have had another lockdown too”
Only if deluded Dan says so !!
That links to ‘cases’, ie positive PCR tests, but you called it deaths. Clicking on the button to change it to deaths, we see that Sweden has… 0 deaths.
Nice try HalfCrumb
I’ve done a little bit more clicking & discovered that the UK CURRENTLY has 3.8 deaths per million (not 3.8%, but 0.00038%). I can see why it panicked BoJo into lockdown 2.0. Seeing his own shadow will provoke lockdown 3.0.
Road deaths are 6 times higher (2018 figures).
Why compare with Norway and not Italy, Spain, etc.?
Who designated Norway as the reference point?
The risk to school kids K-12 of dying of covid is less than the risk of dying in a car accident on a 500 mile trip. Covid mortality data from https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Covid mortality data from…
The CDC ‘Deaths Involving Coronavirus’ spreadsheet shows kids 0-17 years totalled 111 CV-19 deaths for all races, representing 0.05% of the total 212,328 Covid-19 US deaths (downloaded two days ago).
From your link Dan, though not particularly about kids:
The creator of the PCR tests Kary Mullis claimed the PCR tests weren’t effective for viruses, and claimed humans may have thousands of retroviruses that are harmless to very mild. Based on that, I think the US summer cases were actually UV/heat related illnesses as US 2020 summer UVI was 2-5 SD above normal, and the recent fall cases were likely cold/flu due to record cold, although the CDC is reporting low/mild US flu cases. They use PIC numbers that lump pneumonia, influenza, and covid19 into one category.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-01..2020-11-02&country=~USA
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-01..2020-11-02&country=~GBR
Snitching is traditionally widespread in Germany and Switzerland. Covid related incitements are superfluous.
Snitching is a word meaning reporting.
So you here are suggesting you should not inform on a murder/theft/mugging – that is just wrong
How does snitching on someone for COVID-19 rule breaking compare to murder/theft/mugging?
It doesn’t except in the minds of the deluded suffering cognitive diarrhea.
You would snitch on your grandmother for having a bingo evening with 4 people, wouldn’t you, halfrunt.
Are you suggesting that standing closer than 1.5m is the same as murdering someone?
There are subtle differences dear Ghalfrunt.
Better illustrated by “Snitches get stitches because they are xxxxxxx”.
What is the part that you don’t understand ?
I presume there will be the usual list of exemptions for politicians, diplomats, quangos, and favoured persons like they did on the 14 day travel self-isolation. Why allow exemption to people at highest risk of importing an infection such as someone travelling between home and work every day or week from a high risk country?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-travellers-exempt-from-uk-border-rules/coronavirus-covid-19-travellers-exempt-from-uk-border-rules
Protected classes, yes. The same thing applies to the AIDS epidemic, where trans/homosexual males were primary transmitters and victims of the HIV virus. It is considered a hate crime, non-inclusive, to remark on the facts, and liberals demand that people speak their truth to facts instead. Not unlike the Progressive’s selective-child (i.e. Planned Parenthood) a.k.a. wicked solution, which is classified as a taboo topic under their Pro-Choice quasi-religion (e.g. “ethics”).
Patrick MJD November 2, 2020 at 2:31 pm
No they don’t. All of my family are in the UK and Ireland. They are reporting the same. Local authorities kicked off first in the UK, now it’s national. In Wales you can’t buy certain items in shops, non-essential items like underwear, baby items etc.
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tosh I’m afraid ! The screening off of incorrect items was admitted and presumably corrected.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wales-lockdown-baby-clothes-essential-shopping-coronavirus-b1392149.html
Baby clothes have been added to a list of essential items people can buy from supermarkets during Wales’ firebreak lockdown. Updated guidance from the Welsh government was announced on Tuesday evening, amid mounting frustration over a ban on the sale of “non-essential” items since restrictions began on 23 October.
If you have a link to someone posting about snitching that is not breitbart then post it! please!
You are the type of leftist that would snitch on someone you didn’t like
Glad you like the idea of having YOUR purchasing restricted to just what someone else tells you you can buy.
“ghalfrunt November 2, 2020 at 2:50 pm
The screening off of incorrect items was admitted and presumably corrected.”
Presumably? So you don’t know?
Maybe the Britons should spam these services with prank calls…
Some of us will…but a lot will comply…just like 1930s Germany !!!
I asked a question the other day about why China did not seem to be having spikes of the Wuhan virus there, while it was spiking in other parts of the world.
I read an article yesterday describing how a province in China found one person infected in that province and the Chinese promptly tested all 4.7 million people in the province.
So it seems the Chicoms are taking drastic measures to control the virus.
I am glad I live in Japan. Since the pandemic began, Japan has not enacted any lockdowns or mandatory restrictions. In the spring a state of emergency was declared which lasted 2 months. The government requested that schools and businesses close, and that people avoided going out, but there was no requirement to comply, and no consequences for not complying. Many schools and businesses remained open.
On the issue of masks, these have been widely used in Japan for decades. But there are no mask mandates, most people wear them, some don’t, and those who don’t are not accosted or criticized.
Japan has had remarkably few COVID fatalities, few positive tests, and even fewer cases. The great increase in positive test results in midsummer came during a five-fold increase in testing. Tests are currently limited to about 5000 per day, and only those who are symptomatic and are at risk are tested. Hospitals in Japan are currently at about 25% capacity. In the last month or so, no one under 70 has died of COVID.
As of now, Japan is back to normal. All schools, shops, restaurants and government offices are open as usual. The shopping centers, trains, parks, and sidewalks are crowded, the number of positive tests and cases are remaining constant, at a very low level. No one doubts that there are many more who are positive for the virus, but so long as people are not getting seriously ill or dying, the economy cannot be shut down.
These two documents from our government illustrate the inconsistencies they are purveying.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926410/Understanding_Cycle_Threshold__Ct__in_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
Figure 3. Timeline of detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in infection
shows what is claimed to be typical progress of the disease, and indicates an infectious period between the two circled regions of over four weeks.
The references in that document include the following.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection
The relevant part – If you have COVID-19 symptoms or have received a positive test result – Stay at home and begin to self-isolate for 10 days…
So, even though you are infectious for over four weeks, you only need to self-isolate for ten days.
The governments rules seem to be designed to spread the virus.
Here’s an interesting article:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-covid-blood-clots.html
New cause of COVID-19 blood clots identified
Blood clots continue to wreak havoc for patients with severe COVID-19 infection, and a new study explains what may spark them in up to half of patients.
The culprit: An autoimmune antibody that’s circulating in the blood, attacking the cells and triggering clots in arteries, veins, and microscopic vessels.”
end excerpt
No need to urge in Germany, my sister, living in Bavaria, tells me that the neighbours call the police on people voluntarily… that’s very German!
Become a Government informer,
Betray your friends & family,
Fabulous prizes to be won.
or
Vote Fascist for a 3rd glorious decade of total law enforcement.
h/t Red Dwarf – Episode “Back To Reality”
Life imitates art.
UK has a public health emergency and is acting appropriately.
the USA seems hell bent on killing its citizens… 235,000 dead and still new cases in the 80 thousands?
Have you any idea how USA looks to the rest of the world?
griff, 7500 (or thereabouts) US citizens die every day – I suppose Trump is responsible for those as well.
If (for the sake of argument) we came up with a new test – which found the disease endemic and everyone tested positive then the death toll toll due to Trump is in fact in excess of two million.
Yes – that is a fatuous argument – but then so is claiming the 235000 dead.
Until such a time as politicians and the MSM stop abusing the data (when hell freezes over), we really won’t have a clue as to what is really going on.
Therefore “my own council will I keep” – (voice of Yoda)
Soundbite alarmism is no more scientific than politicized science (the former being the handmaiden to the latter).
Paraphrasing Judith Curry – Republicans ignore science and Democrats cherry-pick and weaponize it !
“griff November 3, 2020 at 12:36 am
Have you any idea how USA looks to the rest of the world?”
Clearly you have identified your problem. You pay far too much attention to MSM.
So what happens after?
I mean after this ends..because it will end. What will be the result of a government asking people to turn in their neighbors for a code violation? Someone upthread said people in Montana are taking out billboards and plastering the face of their neighbors on them as snitches. The retaliation is just as bad as the Karen attitude of telling someone else how to live.
When fear drives a society, it drives it off a cliff in every aspect. People afraid of their neighbors snitching and then those retaliating by exposure of the snitch. It all escalates and it’s all fear based. All of it. Fear of the one government that shall rule them all and nobody will be the “right” ones in charge.
What happens when people wake up? How do you rebuild that relationship? What scenarios from history will be in play then and what lessons will be learned from all of this?
My hope is that the lesson is very simple: develop the quick antibody test and find out who has already had the freaking thing. Stop putting every single brainstorming question of the medical community in 20 foot high bold capital letters on the headlines screeching about how unknown everything is. Start with that IS known.
Just a small point:- The picture at the head of this piece is very artistic but I think I should point out that gavels are not used in British courtrooms.