Report Your Neighbours: British Police Urge the Public to Inform on Covid-19 Lockdown Breaches

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Remind me again who won the Cold War? The British police are urging ordinary people to inform on neighbours who breach Covid-19 lockdown rules.

UK Police: It’s Your ‘Civic Duty’ to Inform on Fellow Britons Breaching Lockdown

VICTORIA FRIEDMAN
31 Oct 2020

A British police chief has said it is the public’s “civic duty” to inform on each other if they are suspected of having breached coronavirus lockdown laws.

Merseyside Chief Constable Andy Cooke also condemned the so-called “sneering culture” which disapproves of snitching.

“People are doing a civic duty in contacting us for the right reasons. The vast majority of people across the country are really concerned about this. Any information that you can give us in relation to breaches will save lives, and that’s why people are doing it,” Chief Constable Cooke said, according to The Mirror.

A number of government ministers in recent months have also told Britons that they should inform on people in their community over perceived social distancing violations, with forces reporting such a high increase in calls, they had to add more telephony shifts in their stations.

The remarks come after the Police and Crime Commissioners for Merseyside and the West Midlands said they would break up family Christmas gatherings if they contravened lockdown rules.

Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/31/uk-police-its-your-civic-duty-inform-britons-breaching-lockdown/

Boris Johnson to his credit has argued against such unhinged authoritarianism. Boris suggested people should try talking to their neighbours before taking any other action, only call the police for gross breaches of the rules. But pretty much everyone else in the British government seems to be ignoring him.

118 thoughts on “Report Your Neighbours: British Police Urge the Public to Inform on Covid-19 Lockdown Breaches

  1. It’s not just COVID. I saw a poster by Devon & Cornwall police last week encouraging drivers to use their dash cams to report other drivers. Arguably justifiable but it will attract the self righteous nutter and increase social mistrust.

    • I already had that several years ago.
      Some !&(#($$ idiot called the British plod (of course on their mobile) after being overtaken by a “car on foreign plates”.
      The stupid plod followed me for miles and miles trying to find fault with driving.
      After repeatedly failing to find anything wrong…(yea right) tried to lecture me for driving very close to the kerb and moving to a position possible to see easily to overtake a lorry…

      After stopping me, tried all manner of different ruses and stupid arrogant behaviour to
      a/ find fault with the car (unsuccessfully)

      b/ find fault with driving (also unsuccessfully…where I replied….hey have you ever tried to drive a LHD CAR in the UK??) No reply cos he never had!

      c/ didn’t even attempt explain how someone could have rung them while clearly driving using a mobile phone to do it…and why they weren’t going after them instead!

      What a load of plonkers!
      They are all the same, Hillsborough, all of them arrogant pigs, and not the first time I have experienced their shit first hand!

      https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-shocking-truth-about-police-corruption-in-britain
      https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/policeman-accused-moving-arrested-man-17131243
      https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/policeman-accused-moving-arrested-man-17131243

      UK POLICE ARE UNFIT FOR EMPLOYMENT.

      • I ordered a LH car in the UK and outside the obvious, i.e. drive thrus, overtaking… I actually prefer driving in the UK with LH. I have read an article on German news looking in to the accident statistics of LH driving in the UK and LH drivers do not have more accidents than RH drivers, so they do not drive less safe.

      • I have had many run-ins with Highway Police (Different branch) many times in the UK when I lived there. Such as “undertaking”, which really grinds my gears. If a driver is in one of the two OVERTAKING lanes, the middle and the outside lanes, and is below the speed limit, you CAN pass on the left, at the speed limit. It’s is not your problem. The law may have changed since I drove last in the UK (2003). I also have had the BS threat of an offense pulling out in to lane to see ahead to overtake. But also, overtaking. Drivers do so at the speed limit. Totally unsafe when trying to pass a semi. Do it quickly!

        Yeah, had the cops pull me over many times in the UK, got off most when you can state the rules.

    • “British Police Urge the Public to Inform on Covid-19 Lockdown Breaches” Making police work easier this way, is taking the wrong path towards a police(d) state, the DDR for instance.

      • Perhaps their neighbours should report all the people going in and out of their local cop shop. They clearly aren’t obeying the ‘rule of 6’.

    • Dash cam evidence is not usable in court. It can be modified and has not been kept in a sterile, secure, place between the date of the supposed offence and court case.

  2. We creep ever closer to the Orwellian British ‘brave new world’ ; a mix of East Germany, North Korea & ‘1984’.

    • Yes and in UK we appear to have a large number of people who would have had no problem living in Hitler’s Germany.

    • I would argue that you are already there in old Britannia and the U.S. is in a forced march to catch up to your Orwellian Nightmare. Our governments have all but abandoned any pretense of individual liberties under the guise of abolishing second hand offenses which are mostly imaginary hobgoblins.

      Here, across the pond, the faceless elite owners of you DC Swamp have finally figured out a work around to that Pesky Bill of Rights. They simply declare any individual freedoms to be harmful to your neighbors and particularly it is harmful to “The Children.” Ergo and henceforth we decree you can no longer do what you have been doing and keep in mind we are watching you and we have “The Childrens'” mother’s helping us watching you.

      • And as a measure of last resort, they will attempt to use local zoning and/or nuisance ordinances against you in a bid to intimidate you into doing what they want. The threat of lost time, court fees, and lawyer’s bills compels most people to comply. Which is a bad idea, because the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them, even if you get scuffed up a bit. They will think twice next time.

  3. Plenty of uk agencies for decades have had ,hot lines, email contact forms, to snitch on your neibours ,

    Decades of goodie goodies who have nothing better to do, who have been brainwashed into thinking thier ideology is government ideology, a philosophy of I’m all right jack, ideology driving a wedge between people,

    • No one put it better than C. S. Lewis:

      “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

      • +10

        May I also add, when a government takes away the ability to do for ones self, and enables a defunked work force to take over, we must remember the defunked work force is the victim of government policy.

        A defunked workforce empowered by the rights taken away from the people ,is at best a snitch for self interest,

        At worst a licence to rip off ( increasingly as the next generation has no experience)

        Such is life in new service industries.

  4. This is a great way to get back at neighbors who are noisy, have barking dogs, or who you just don’t like for any reason. It reminds me of Miss Gulch in the Wizard of Oz taking Dorothy’s little dog Toto to be put down, for barking at her, because it is a “menace to society”.

    • The totalitarian temptation has always been strong in Germany. Especially now when Merkel’s party (CPU/CSU) is in coalition with the Greens party. I bet the latter are licking their chops.

  5. Happening on this side of the pond, of all places, Montana. However, we have (at least until January) a dictatorial Democrat Governor who believes he is King.

    Cool thing about Montana, however. If you snitch on your neighbor about Covid “violations,” your name is a matter of public record. Folks in Billings have been putting up billboards with pictures of the snitches, so their neighbors will know who they are.

  6. We had some years ago the little “Climate Detectives”, these were even asked to denunciate their parents in case of climate misbehaviour….
    Kindergarten education at it’s best…..

    • “huls November 2, 2020 at 10:34 am

      Stock up on weapons. You are ging to need them.”

      One of the reasons many countries, like Australia, the UK and New Zealand, have banned the population from owning certain types. The “ruling class” don’t want serfs defending themselves from state tyranny.

  7. I guess it’s a good thing they aren’t doing another vote on Brexit right now. Half the population would report on the other half.

    • I had a poster all ready to go of a speech by Adam Sutler, except with Boris at the podium. But when I double checked he’s actually been urging restraint.

    • Shocking as it maybe, The oaf Johnson was close to doing something good by installing Charles Moore as BBC chairman and ex-Mail editor Paul Dacre as head of Ofcom. Sadly Moore cried off citing family reasons and as yet a new name has not come out. If he could put somebody other than leftwing liberal snivellers in these posts he won’t have been a 100% dick.

    • Boris put paid to Corbyn. The British owe him a profound debt of gratitude for that. Without his victory in December, the Corbynites would by now have embarked on their progroms and be well on their way to building and populating their gulags. Boris’ win was the first shoe dropping. The second was the Equalities Commission report last week, and the subsequent defenestration of Corbyn.

      He saved Britain from a government consisting of a bunch of anti-semitic terrorist sympathizers who had taken over the Labour Party. Stalinists and Trotskyites, obsessed with the Middle East, some of them Holocaust deniers. Except that the Holocaust they denied was not the German, but the Soviet one.

      Read the Equalities Commission report if you don’t believe this. And look at the pictures of Corbyn, wreath in hand, near a Black September memorial, present at the ceremony,but not involved, as he said. Boris sent all that lot packing. Whatever else he did, they owe him for that.

  8. And so the cycle continues-From serfdom, through enlightenment and back through dependence and apathy, returning to serfdom. The dobbing in neighbours (for a concocted crime) -where have we seen this before? Has it ever ended well?

    To add insult to injury, it is based on a total fearmongering campaign-the hyping up of the seasonal flu being used as a feeble excuse to crash the entire system. This is the catalyst to reintroducing universal slavery on the pretext of equality.

    Have we really outgrown irrational fear and superstition? Do we have the right to laugh at our forebears for being so gullible? Have we actually learned the lessons of history?

  9. They want people to snitch on lockdown escapees who are not infected, but they refuse to tell us who or where the infected cases are in any useful detail.

    • Some people in the UK have used their “free” tests received in the post to swab house plants. The tests come back positive apparently.

  10. They breached the rules????? “Off with their heads!” shouted the Red Queen. She dithered and bothered and wiggled and waddled and then, after looking at herself in the mirror, again shouted “Off with their heads!!!!”

    Fortunately, Alice had left and the White Rabbit and the Caterpillar were sharing a hookah and didn’t really care what that old bat shouted.

    Twas brilling and the slithy toves
    Did gyer and gimble in the wabe.
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe…..

      • “And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
        “Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
        “O frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!”
        He chortled in his joy.

        Many Jabberwocks, still to be slain, I fear.

  11. For Heavens sake, this is a really bad WUWT article. Equating the lockdown with some sort of east european stasi type controlling is ludicrous. Like it or not the lockdown rules (personally I’m against a lockdown), will have been passed in parliament by a government elected by an overwhelming majority one year ago. Asking people to inform the police of breaches is just the same as telling your police if you saw your neighbour pinching a car. For better or for worse this is the law. To equate it to a dictatorship is just ludicrous

    • Yes. Sadly democracy in most European countries has descended into tyranny of the majority. Informed leadership has been sadly lacking in all countries with possible exception of Sweden.
      A majority must be window twitching snitchers who delight in preventing their more outgoing neighbors from living and base their authoritarian tendency on poor pseudo science.

      • Democracy ALWAYS descends into tyranny of the majority. That is why America’s Founding Fathers, in their infinite wisdom, created a different form of government. It is called many things depending on who is using the words, a representative democracy, a constitutional democracy, a constitutional republic and a representative republic. The fact remains that the Founding Fathers set up a system of government that has worked for over 233 years.

    • No, at least in the US, most of these “mandates” are NOT law. They are edicts which do NOT have the force of law, handed down by dictatorial governors.

      • Thank you
        Exactly, here in Victoria less than 10% of people have actually paid their COVID fines.
        The actual law does not have strong standing as each scenario has not been tested in court.
        Example. So many people have told police they can’t wear mask because of health conditions but still got fine.

    • David, the only difference is that a year ago, there was no COVID. That is to say, the citizens did not know of the authoritarian nature of the government they elected. On the other hand, it’s truly pitiful that a “first-world country” stoops to a police state to enforce a lockdown. That is a concerning level of power for a government to possess.

      • No, stop trying to put words into my mouth. I’m saying that a government minister ASKING citizens to tell the police about other citizens who break the law, does not equate to some sort of communist or fascist dictatorship. Furthermore when it is a temporary measure designed to combat what the government is acting in what it believes is the best way to protect it’s citizens, then that makes the article writers claims of dictatorship even more ludicrous.

      • Bojo urged restraint. When this is all over people will need to find a way to live with each other, I doubt neighbourhood disputes started by overzealous snitching will stop with a few hurt looks.

      • What David is not telling you is the latest covid laws UK will not be voted on till Wednesday.

        Unlike the welsh who gave themselves powers to allow new laws within hours.

      • It’s the democractic, majority, or color (i.e. diversity) rule apology that has found common cause with the left of past and present. This is why, for example, the Constitution recognizes explicit limits of representative authority and positively affirms certain rights of “the People” and “our Posterity”. Americans recognize the faults of mortal gods, left-ward swings, and were proactive to mitigate their progress.

    • Except Lord SUMPTION has a totally different opinion from your bleating and has much better qualifications as well.

      The restrictions in the UK are an unconstitutional arbitrary interference in personal freedom and very possibly illegal also.
      At no time has the UK ever been ruled by decree, until now, not in 1914-18 nor in 1939-45.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8851059/LORD-SUMPTION-Im-meet-person-plans-obey-mixing-ban.html

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDv2gk8aa0&feature=youtu.be

      It’s a MUST SEE!

    • It starts sedately enough. We have seen this situation several times. Jews in 1930’s Germany is just one such event.

    • Lockdown has not been passed by Parliament here in Australia. Instead it has been imposed by government fiat By state premiers (Premiers are the equivalent of governors, sort of, in the US). There is starting today a hearing in our High Court about whether these lockdowns are constitutional or not. I hope our judges have got more balls than our premiers but I’m not holding my breath. Meanwhile, under the guise of health, some lockdowns continue. But if health is the concern why is nothing being done about the massive increase in the rate of suicide due to mental health issues that have emerged as a consequence of the lockdown. Our public health officials are a joke.We have doctors here that assign petitions identifying that young kids are coming in for antidepressant medications because they’re scared and frightened because of the lockdown. What have we done to these children, in the name of protecting a bunch of the elderly that would probably have died from seasonal flu this year if it hadn’t been Covid. And I am in the vulnerable group but I think it’s my responsibility look after myself that my grandkids Go to work, for crying out loud

      • Quilter
        I don’t have a problem with the government imposing restrictions.
        But they must have a valid link to science and law.
        Here are Melbourne, premier Dan Andrews banned fishing and golf but not horses racing.
        He also set up a curfew of 7:00 pm.
        Many of Dictator Dan’s rules have no scientific or legal standing.

      • “Quilter November 2, 2020 at 3:30 pm

        Go to work, for crying out loud”

        Many people can’t because companies have closed doors or have imposed restrictions and rotations. Where I work, teams were split across different floors. Then everyone was sent home. Now if you happen to sit at a desk identified as blue you can go to the office on certain days. Same with red desk but on an alternate day. It has been truly ridiculous.

        Due to my personal circumstances, I volunteered to be part of a skeleton crew to “keep the lights on” at the office. It was actually wonderful. No-one at work, no-one on the streets and no-one on the trains.

        As of today, Australian COVID-19 stats; 3 New cases (Nov 3) 240 Active cases 25116 Recovered 907 Deaths. The 12 months to September there have been 1107 deaths on roads in Australia. Eight Australians die every day by suicide, that’s more than double the road toll. 75% of those who take their own life are male (Mostly white divorcees). Over 65,000 Australians make a suicide attempt each year.

        Puts things in to perspective dunnit!

    • Do you wish us to believe, that in all of the years of your parliamentary democracy, a tyrannic act has not been imposed by the majority? If this is true, you have been extraordinarily lucky up until now!

      Not going to get into current issues, arguing over State run health care – but most of us remember many such acts passed here across the pond. You might want to look up the Fugitive Slave Act as one of the most heinous.

      Enjoy your slavery to the State – until the State decides that you are either dangerous or surplus to its needs.

    • DG-J,

      I would say that equating snitching on your neighbors for leaving their house with “telling your police if you saw your neighbour pinching a car” is equally if not more ludicrous.

      “For better or for worse this is the law.” that’s just blinkered and obtuse. There are a lot of things that are “legal” but not moral or ethical or right. “Gee, I don’t personally agree with it, but it’s the law, so we must obey.”

  12. If Biden gets in, the USA will be worse than Britain before long.
    At least our politicians appear to regard it as a short term measure but the US Democrats see it as a long term management tool.
    Just as our Corbyn led Labour Party did.

  13. THE QUESTION IS AS THE MOVIE LINE GOES:
    “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE”
    AS A NY RADIO GUY LIONEL ALWAYS SAID— L&L.

  14. This is not in ‘isolation’, though it should be. Judge a man by the company he keeps – judge this encouragement by the other ‘offences ‘ the police are encouraging the public to report. How many ways to earn a ‘cool’ black armband are there now?

  15. The virus, a flimsy excuse to govern like the USSR under the guise of public safety and civic duty. Isolation did not work during the plagues and even contributed to death due to neglect in Europe.

    The communists are practicing their craft and seeing how much they can get away with without penalty while attempting to condition the public to their control.

    The question is were here others involved with China in the spread of the virus.

  16. BBC Radio 4 news @ 13:00 14th Sept.
    News reader: “The policing minister said we should report on others if we seem them breaking the rule of six. Would you ‘dob in’ next door?”
    Random person: “If my next door neighbour I found out was a terrorist, then I would report them, because they are potentially a killer. Now Kovid 19 in my opinion is a killer, and therefore I think anybody who flouts the rules is basically the same as a terrorist walking down the road spraying a machine gun.”

    This was a strange broadcast because it was just this nameless guy talking and the news item just rolled on with comment on this bizarre view point.

  17. It’s a shame we can’t edit our comments? I meant to say “… the news item just rolled on without comment on this bizarre view point.”

  18. Remind me again who won the Cold War?

    The German Democratic Republic.

    And now we are a nation of curtain-twitchers and snitchers – cameras can’t cover everything; yet. It’s amazing just how many latent tin-pot Hitlers there are are out there. But this attitude comes down the line.

    As the Prime Minister arrived in Downing Street juggling a baby bottle, Dilyn the dog, his red box and a folder under his arm, policing minister Kit Malthouse told the morning media round that residents should “absolutely” call the police if they see neighbours holding gatherings of seven or more next door.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/kit-malthouse-police-neighbours-break-social-gathering-rules-a4546696.html

    The latest from our de-facto police state is:

    Ministers believe that the four-week coronavirus lockdown in England could continue until next year, with a short break for Christmas.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/02/englands-coronavirus-lockdown-could-last-until-next-year/

    Who knew the Chinese virus celebrates Christmas?

  19. They delayed the spread, and increased the exposure.

    Remember, physical distancing in time, space, and diversity (individual, not color). Despite CDC, WHO assurance, a single person in a compressed band is a potential super spreader. Oh, and wash your hands, avoid cross-contamination with mouth, nose, eyes, and open wounds, and limit your interaction with viral/bacterial collectors a.k.a. “masks” when legally possible.

    Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study

    People who wear masks should be reported to authorities.

    Oh, and speaking of bad choices, wicked solutions, tear down the walls, shut down Planned Parent, a first-order forcing of excess deaths.

  20. In New Zealand this is called “Dobbing someone in” for whatever reason. The Gestapo is alive and well in the UK. I read also that there are “COVID-19” wardens that covertly or overtly patrol areas looking for “rule breakers” with the power of arrest.

  21. This encouragement to denounce your neighbours opens up a big field of pay-back to neighbours who have offended you in the past with noisy parties, barking dogs, garbage location infringements, or are people that you just don’t like for any reason. The constabulary in Britain will soon achieve the status of the STASI or Gestapo.

  22. It’s a report for breitbart that you are posting – do you really believe anything they write?

    A quick web search brings a number of reports as you have posted. They all lead back to Breitbart!

    Worral it may be difficult for you but you must be able to do better than this

  23. If lockdowns worked why are we here? Keep doing the same thing, get the same outcome.

    You’d think with Sweden right there in Europe the other European countries would have noticed by now that what the Swedes did worked better.

    At least in the US we all understand the Dem governors did the lockdowns to destroy the economy & help the Dem president candidate. What is Europe’s excuse?

        • More clicking still. Australia has to do 3,500 tests to get each positive result. People don’t have to have symptoms to be tested (and certainly not to be called a case).

          We could have had another lockdown to, but we were exhausted.

      • That links to ‘cases’, ie positive PCR tests, but you called it deaths. Clicking on the button to change it to deaths, we see that Sweden has… 0 deaths.

        Nice try HalfCrumb

      • I’ve done a little bit more clicking & discovered that the UK CURRENTLY has 3.8 deaths per million (not 3.8%, but 0.00038%). I can see why it panicked BoJo into lockdown 2.0. Seeing his own shadow will provoke lockdown 3.0.

        Road deaths are 6 times higher (2018 figures).

    • Covid mortality data from…

      The CDC ‘Deaths Involving Coronavirus’ spreadsheet shows kids 0-17 years totalled 111 CV-19 deaths for all races, representing 0.05% of the total 212,328 Covid-19 US deaths (downloaded two days ago).

      From your link Dan, though not particularly about kids:

      Comorbidities
      Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.

      The creator of the PCR tests Kary Mullis claimed the PCR tests weren’t effective for viruses, and claimed humans may have thousands of retroviruses that are harmless to very mild. Based on that, I think the US summer cases were actually UV/heat related illnesses as US 2020 summer UVI was 2-5 SD above normal, and the recent fall cases were likely cold/flu due to record cold, although the CDC is reporting low/mild US flu cases. They use PIC numbers that lump pneumonia, influenza, and covid19 into one category.

      Based on NCHS mortality surveillance data available on October 29, 2020, 8.2% of the deaths occurring during the week ending October 24, 2020 (week 43), were due to pneumonia, influenza, and COVID-19 (PIC). This percentage is above the epidemic threshold of 5.9% for week 43.

      https://i.postimg.cc/K8hH04vs/US-COVID-Nov-1-2020.jpg

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-01..2020-11-02&country=~USA

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-01..2020-11-02&country=~GBR

  24. Snitching is traditionally widespread in Germany and Switzerland. Covid related incitements are superfluous.

  25. Snitching is a word meaning reporting.

    So you here are suggesting you should not inform on a murder/theft/mugging – that is just wrong

    • You would snitch on your grandmother for having a bingo evening with 4 people, wouldn’t you, halfrunt.

    • There are subtle differences dear Ghalfrunt.

      Better illustrated by “Snitches get stitches because they are xxxxxxx”.

      What is the part that you don’t understand ?

  26. I presume there will be the usual list of exemptions for politicians, diplomats, quangos, and favoured persons like they did on the 14 day travel self-isolation. Why allow exemption to people at highest risk of importing an infection such as someone travelling between home and work every day or week from a high risk country?
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-travellers-exempt-from-uk-border-rules/coronavirus-covid-19-travellers-exempt-from-uk-border-rules

    • Protected classes, yes. The same thing applies to the AIDS epidemic, where trans/homosexual males were primary transmitters and victims of the HIV virus. It is considered a hate crime, non-inclusive, to remark on the facts, and liberals demand that people speak their truth to facts instead. Not unlike the Progressive’s selective-child (i.e. Planned Parenthood) a.k.a. wicked solution, which is classified as a taboo topic under their Pro-Choice quasi-religion (e.g. “ethics”).

  27. Patrick MJD November 2, 2020 at 2:31 pm
    No they don’t. All of my family are in the UK and Ireland. They are reporting the same. Local authorities kicked off first in the UK, now it’s national. In Wales you can’t buy certain items in shops, non-essential items like underwear, baby items etc.
    ——–
    tosh I’m afraid ! The screening off of incorrect items was admitted and presumably corrected.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wales-lockdown-baby-clothes-essential-shopping-coronavirus-b1392149.html
    Baby clothes have been added to a list of essential items people can buy from supermarkets during Wales’ firebreak lockdown. Updated guidance from the Welsh government was announced on Tuesday evening, amid mounting frustration over a ban on the sale of “non-essential” items since restrictions began on 23 October.

    If you have a link to someone posting about snitching that is not breitbart then post it! please!

    • You are the type of leftist that would snitch on someone you didn’t like

      Glad you like the idea of having YOUR purchasing restricted to just what someone else tells you you can buy.

    • “ghalfrunt November 2, 2020 at 2:50 pm

      The screening off of incorrect items was admitted and presumably corrected.”

      Presumably? So you don’t know?

  28. I asked a question the other day about why China did not seem to be having spikes of the Wuhan virus there, while it was spiking in other parts of the world.

    I read an article yesterday describing how a province in China found one person infected in that province and the Chinese promptly tested all 4.7 million people in the province.

    So it seems the Chicoms are taking drastic measures to control the virus.

  29. I am glad I live in Japan. Since the pandemic began, Japan has not enacted any lockdowns or mandatory restrictions. In the spring a state of emergency was declared which lasted 2 months. The government requested that schools and businesses close, and that people avoided going out, but there was no requirement to comply, and no consequences for not complying. Many schools and businesses remained open.

    On the issue of masks, these have been widely used in Japan for decades. But there are no mask mandates, most people wear them, some don’t, and those who don’t are not accosted or criticized.

    Japan has had remarkably few COVID fatalities, few positive tests, and even fewer cases. The great increase in positive test results in midsummer came during a five-fold increase in testing. Tests are currently limited to about 5000 per day, and only those who are symptomatic and are at risk are tested. Hospitals in Japan are currently at about 25% capacity. In the last month or so, no one under 70 has died of COVID.

    As of now, Japan is back to normal. All schools, shops, restaurants and government offices are open as usual. The shopping centers, trains, parks, and sidewalks are crowded, the number of positive tests and cases are remaining constant, at a very low level. No one doubts that there are many more who are positive for the virus, but so long as people are not getting seriously ill or dying, the economy cannot be shut down.

  30. These two documents from our government illustrate the inconsistencies they are purveying.
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926410/Understanding_Cycle_Threshold__Ct__in_SARS-CoV-2_RT-PCR_.pdf
    Figure 3. Timeline of detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in infection
    shows what is claimed to be typical progress of the disease, and indicates an infectious period between the two circled regions of over four weeks.
    The references in that document include the following.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection
    The relevant part – If you have COVID-19 symptoms or have received a positive test result – Stay at home and begin to self-isolate for 10 days…
    So, even though you are infectious for over four weeks, you only need to self-isolate for ten days.
    The governments rules seem to be designed to spread the virus.

  31. Here’s an interesting article:

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-covid-blood-clots.html

    New cause of COVID-19 blood clots identified

    Blood clots continue to wreak havoc for patients with severe COVID-19 infection, and a new study explains what may spark them in up to half of patients.

    The culprit: An autoimmune antibody that’s circulating in the blood, attacking the cells and triggering clots in arteries, veins, and microscopic vessels.”

    end excerpt

  32. No need to urge in Germany, my sister, living in Bavaria, tells me that the neighbours call the police on people voluntarily… that’s very German!

    • Become a Government informer,
      Betray your friends & family,
      Fabulous prizes to be won.

      or

      Vote Fascist for a 3rd glorious decade of total law enforcement.

      h/t Red Dwarf – Episode “Back To Reality”

      Life imitates art.

  33. UK has a public health emergency and is acting appropriately.

    the USA seems hell bent on killing its citizens… 235,000 dead and still new cases in the 80 thousands?

    Have you any idea how USA looks to the rest of the world?

    • griff, 7500 (or thereabouts) US citizens die every day – I suppose Trump is responsible for those as well.

      If (for the sake of argument) we came up with a new test – which found the disease endemic and everyone tested positive then the death toll toll due to Trump is in fact in excess of two million.

      Yes – that is a fatuous argument – but then so is claiming the 235000 dead.

      Until such a time as politicians and the MSM stop abusing the data (when hell freezes over), we really won’t have a clue as to what is really going on.

      Therefore “my own council will I keep” – (voice of Yoda)

      Soundbite alarmism is no more scientific than politicized science (the former being the handmaiden to the latter).

      Paraphrasing Judith Curry – Republicans ignore science and Democrats cherry-pick and weaponize it !

    • “griff November 3, 2020 at 12:36 am

      Have you any idea how USA looks to the rest of the world?”

      Clearly you have identified your problem. You pay far too much attention to MSM.

  34. So what happens after?

    I mean after this ends..because it will end. What will be the result of a government asking people to turn in their neighbors for a code violation? Someone upthread said people in Montana are taking out billboards and plastering the face of their neighbors on them as snitches. The retaliation is just as bad as the Karen attitude of telling someone else how to live.

    When fear drives a society, it drives it off a cliff in every aspect. People afraid of their neighbors snitching and then those retaliating by exposure of the snitch. It all escalates and it’s all fear based. All of it. Fear of the one government that shall rule them all and nobody will be the “right” ones in charge.

    What happens when people wake up? How do you rebuild that relationship? What scenarios from history will be in play then and what lessons will be learned from all of this?

    My hope is that the lesson is very simple: develop the quick antibody test and find out who has already had the freaking thing. Stop putting every single brainstorming question of the medical community in 20 foot high bold capital letters on the headlines screeching about how unknown everything is. Start with that IS known.

  35. Just a small point:- The picture at the head of this piece is very artistic but I think I should point out that gavels are not used in British courtrooms.

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