Michael Mann: Whether or not Trump gets re-elected … could determine the fate of our planet

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Michael Mann, President Trump has emboldened world leaders like Australia’s Scott Morrison to be less ambitious on climate change. But why does Mann think Biden would make such a difference, given the Biden family’s high level involvement in non-US fossil fuel giants like Burisma?

For Australia’s sake, I hope Trump’s climate science denialism loses

Michael Mann
Sat 17 Oct 2020 06.00 AEDT

US policy has emboldened Scott Morrison to be less ambitious on climate, just when so much is at stake

Anyone in Australia who witnessed the Black Summer bushfires (as I did), and anyone in the US who experienced the thick smoke from our western wildfires (as I have), knows how much damage climate change is already doing. The stark reality is that worldwide efforts to avert ever-more catastrophic climate change impacts lie in the balance in the 2020 US election.

Donald Trump will go down in history bearing substantial responsibility for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans due to his rejection of the advice of public health experts and his refusal to endorse policies such as social distancing and mask-wearing that could have saved many thousands of lives. But his rejection of the science of climate change sets the stage for a far greater toll. Far more human lives will be lost from the impacts of climate change if we fail to act.

Whether or not Trump gets re-elected – and how other countries like Australia respond to the outcome of the US election – could determine the fate of our planet. Indeed, I’ve stated that a second Trump term might well be “game over for the climate” if it leads to the collapse of international efforts to act.

The damage caused by Trump’s climate denial is painfully visible within the US as we endure climate change-fuelled extreme weather events, including unprecedented wildfires in the west and unprecedented hurricanes in the east. But the damage can be felt around the world. Trump has proudly, and shamelessly, trumpeted his climate denialism on the global stage, joining with petrostates such as Russia, Saudi Arabia and Brazil in opposing international climate efforts.

Indeed, Trump’s actions have emboldened Australia to be less ambitious on climate too, prime minister Scott Morrison following Trump’s lead in promoting climate denial, coddling fossil fuel interests and blocking efforts to support a clean, renewable energy transition.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/17/for-australias-sake-i-hope-trumps-climate-science-denialism-loses

Despite Joe Biden’s rhetoric on climate change, his son Hunter Biden has been travelling the world making business deals with Ukrainian Gas Giant Burisma, BHR (which apparently invested in African mines), and a string of Chinese companies which did who knows what.

So in my opinion it could be argued that the Biden family has a substantial ongoing personal involvement with petroleum and extractive industry companies.

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October 19, 2020 9:55 pm

USA is not the world. Living in Europe, the POTUS is not my president and also not the president of Australia.
Furthermore, it is not the United States of America but the Divided States of America.

Reply to  Hans Erren
October 19, 2020 10:51 pm

Hans,

The United States isn’t the world, but it spans North America with a good variety of geography and topography which makes it a good sub-set of a land mass. World-wide, the US has the best sampling of weather data of any significant land surface. If the US does not show warming, a strong explanation is needed as to why it is an outlier compared to the rest of the world as a whole.

Taken from (Richard Verney, WUWT, July 2017)

SAMURAI
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 20, 2020 3:27 am

Hans-san:

Trump may not be EU’s President, however, if the US continues to not contribute to the Climate Change Paris Accord, it will be extremely difficult for the EU to make up the difference, which means the Paris Accord and CAGW are dead…

Under the slim chance that Biden wins, the US will then waste $trillions on this insane CAGW nonsense and the hoax will continue…

Money talks, BS walks.

John Endicott
Reply to  SAMURAI
October 20, 2020 6:01 am

very true, Samurai-san.

The US can either lead the world out of the CAGW nonsense or it can follow the world as it falls prey to the CAGW hoax. This election will decide, the consequences will be felt all across the globe for good or ill. The choice is clear, Best hope my fellow Americans choose wisely.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 20, 2020 7:18 am

“USA is not the world.”

I see where some in Europe are complaining that the USA is exporting the Black Lives Matter communist movement to Europe. I guess we are more closely connected than first thought.

It looks to me like there is a lot of division between the States in Europe, too. The U.S. doesn’t have a monopoly on division, although we do have one political party, the Democrats, actively trying to spread division and hatred throughout the nation for political purposes. And then typically, the Democrats accuse the Republicans of spreading division and hatred. They always accuse others of doing what they do. It’s a form of deception, and/or a mental illness.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2020 9:54 am

I can’t imagine why anyone would be surprised that the Black Lives Matter nonsense has gone international. Marxists have always been international in their outlook and their willingness to share effective scams goes back a generation or two.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 22, 2020 10:01 am

Indeed MarkW, and I’m pretty sure that when it comes down to it, communism spread from Europe to America in the first place. The Europeans never stamped it out, so no wonder it’s still there…

JEHILL
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 20, 2020 7:40 am

It seems you are missing several points here.

The US is a becon of freedom and individual freewill. What all human beings have aspired to be since the beginning of the species. Without the US that becon of light wanes and it be will many centuries before it comes around.

Additionally, if we crash burn as a civilization the destruction will be far and wide. We, the US, feed the world.

There more points. I listed a subjective, perhaps a spiritual reason and a pragmatic and practical reason.

We are less divided then what the media portrays.

Reply to  JEHILL
October 20, 2020 9:17 am

“The US is a becon of freedom and individual freewill.”
I get my examples from France thank you ver much, just like the metric system.
The POTUS has no authority over 7.5 billion people on earth.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 21, 2020 5:03 am

France and the U.S. are beacons of freedom. That’s why we get all these illegal aliens invading us all the time.

In the U.S., we use both systems of measurement.

The POTUS has no desire to exercise authority over 7.5 billion people.

Leonard
October 19, 2020 10:05 pm

Please see the Insurrection Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807
President Trump can use any time it is needed. US Armed Forces

This may be necessary if the Communist Antifa or BLM go full bore riots.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Leonard
October 20, 2020 7:31 am

“President Trump can use any time it is needed. US Armed Forces

This may be necessary if the Communist Antifa or BLM go full bore riots.”

Trump was asked this morning on the Fox and Friends program, about post-election violence from the Left if they lost the election, and Trump said he didn’t think it would amount to much and that the Left “would be exhausted” after losing. I think Trump is correct.

I don’t have any doubt that the hardcore Antifa thugs will take to the streets. They will see this as just another opportunity to tear things down, just like they used George Floyd’s death to wreak havoc.

But I don’t think the hardcore Antifa thugs have the numbers to cause a lot of trouble. They are tearing up Portland, but that’s because the local Democrats are allowing them to do so. Trump could send federal law enforcement into Portland and end the entire process in a couple of days. So it’s not like the situation is out of control, other than directly in Portland.

We’ll see just how many democrats there really are in this nation after the vote. If it is an overwhelming victory for Trump, then they should shut their mouths and go home and accept the Will of the People.

We’ll also see how many on the Left are the violent type. As I said, I think the violent ones are fringe groups with small numbers who can be controlled if politicians want to control them.

The only fly in the ointment is the Democrat politicians who allow criminals to run wild in their cities. Trump may have to find a way to overrule the local Democrats and go in and take action against the criminals. I guess Trump could declare Portland to be under martial law, if it got right down to it. Then Trump could go in and enforce the law.

Editor
October 19, 2020 10:41 pm

Mann? Yawn! Michael Mann has as much credibility as Greta, without Greta’s following. The latter part must really irk him.

Regards,
Bob

PS: Stay safe and healthy, all.

LdB
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
October 20, 2020 12:35 am

The difference is Greta has a diagnosed condition, Mike’s is undiagnosed 🙂

RicDre
Reply to  LdB
October 20, 2020 7:39 am

“Greta Thunberg Defies China, Demands Release of Imprisoned Hong Kong Refugees”

President Xi is evidently not very happy about her statement.

“Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian responded to Thunberg’s endorsement of the campaign to free the 12 Hong Kong activists on Monday at a regularly scheduled press conference.

‘China is [sic] country with rule of law and Chinese judicial authorities handle cases in strict accordance with law. Nobody has any right to interfere,’ Zhao said.”

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/10/19/greta-thunberg-defies-china-demands-release-imprisoned-hong-kong-refugees/

MarkW
Reply to  RicDre
October 20, 2020 9:57 am

The problem is that in China, the law is whatever the party needs it to be at the moment.
Very similar to what the Democrats want to see in the US.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
October 21, 2020 5:21 am

Yes, the Democrats really like the Chicom government model.

If Biden gets elected, the Democrats will set up an American Social Credit System like they have in China, and when anyone says or does anything the Democrats don’t like, their Social Credit score will be lowered. And in China, in order to fly on an airplane or carry out other normal business, you have to have a certain social credit score and if you don’t have it, then you don’t get to do what you wanted to do. It’s a form of punishment and a way to keep people toeing the Chicom/Democrat party line.

Won’t that be fun. My social credit score will be down to zero pretty soon after it is implemented, I’m sure. Maybe I can talk Texas into leaving the Union and taking Oklahoma with them, if that were to happen.

But then along comes Trump and wipes all those authoritarian nightmares away. We’ll know soon..

October 19, 2020 11:48 pm

Anyone in Australia who witnessed the Black Summer bushfires (as I did), and anyone in the US who experienced the thick smoke from our western wildfires (as I have),

I know correlation does not imply causation, but coincidence?

“I’m a firestarter, twisted firestarter
You’re a firestarter, twisted firestarter
I’m a firestarter, twisted firestarter”

😉

LdB
Reply to  Redge
October 20, 2020 12:39 am

Well he is the right demographic 🙂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyromania

A preponderance of the individuals are male; one source states that ninety percent of those diagnosed with pyromania are male

SAMURAI
October 20, 2020 12:33 am

History will be favorable about Trump’s 1st term, providing freedom of the press and freedom of speech still exist in the US, which is becoming uncertain.

The CAGW hypothesis has already been disconfirmed because CAGW’s hypothetical warming projections have been over 2 standard deviations off from reality for a statistically significant duration to completely disconfirmed the hypothesis.

Global severe weather trends and ACE data also show (and IPCC’s AR5 report confirms) there have been no discernible increasing trends of severe weather frequency nor intensity for the past 100 years….

CAGW is dead and Trump’s logical and rational skepticism is supported by all empirical evidence.

The ONLY reasons CAGW hasn’t already been completely rejected is the MSM’s and Leftist polical hacks 24/7 fake news propaganda supporting this CAGW nonsense, and the cancel culture which exists in academia against CAGW skeptics

Historians will be dumbfounded the disconfirmed CAGW hypothesis lasted as long as it did, and will be horrified by the $trillions global governments wasted on this crazy and unsupported rubbish.

October 20, 2020 2:14 am

If somehow Biden gets the election, even when the laptop is now public knowledge, it means a Harris executive, Obama 2. Durham Ratcliff et. al must declassify everything BEFORE the election.

Has anyone checked Harris on the GND?

Considering the sheer number of Obama’s circle involved in Ukraine, it sure looks like war with Russia is still the game. Britain is right now sending £1.25 billion for warships which they will provide to Ukraine.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
October 21, 2020 5:37 am

“Considering the sheer number of Obama’s circle involved in Ukraine, it sure looks like war with Russia is still the game.”

Money was the game in the Ukraine.

I don’t know why some think the Democrats are out to go to war with the Russians. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Democrats are basically cowards. They are happy to use Russia as a political tool to bash the Republicans, but they have no designs on Russia as far as a land war goes.

The Democrats have no stomach for war. They talk tough, but their actions show they are not tough at all, they are pushovers for murderous dictators.

October 20, 2020 2:28 am

How can anyone take this charlatan seriously?

Bruce Cobb
October 20, 2020 3:48 am

Liarmann resides in his his own world of Greenieweenie Land, so yes, a Trump win could definitely threaten that “planet”. At this point, I think the chances of a Trump win are about 50/50. Imagine that, the fate of democracy itself in the hands of a coin-toss. If he wins, it will again be down to the electoral college. He clearly doesn’t have the popular vote.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 20, 2020 5:23 am

I don’t think we can use the word “clearly” about anything relating to the election or politics thanks to the lying fake news media. According to them, Trump is going to lose in a landslide, his opponent has a double digit lead and is 91% certain to win. Sound familiar? not only is that the narrative from the marxstream media this year, it’s the exact the same thing they were saying in 2016. While it’s possible he won’t have the popular vote again (thank you Commiefornia), that’s neither clear nor certain because there is no reliable, unbiased journalism out there providing actual facts.

MarkW
Reply to  John Endicott
October 20, 2020 10:01 am

In 2016, the Democrats had major leads in voter registration in PA and FL. The media was predicting huge Hillary wins in both states. In 2020, the Democrat lead in voter registrations in both states has shrunk dramatically.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
October 20, 2020 12:39 pm

markW
Well I think you are wishing Trump a win but not being realistic. there was no covid back in 2016. This alone will almost certainly ensure his loss. It’s a flashing neon sig over his head saying “loser.” But if I am wrong I will be back here to admit it. I wonder if you will be so honest?

fred250
Reply to  Simon
October 20, 2020 1:45 pm

LOSERS are the Democrat governors that sent Covid-19 into old peoples homes

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
October 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Simon, demonstrating that his willingness to see only what he wants to see will take a back seat to nobody.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
October 20, 2020 4:20 pm

Would that be the same gov Cuomo who spent months screaming about how he was in charge in NY, and not Trump?

Simon
Reply to  Simon
October 20, 2020 5:05 pm

Markw
I’ll take that as a no. What a man.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2020 5:42 am

“But if I am wrong I will be back here to admit it.”

We’ll look forward to that, Simon. 🙂

Simon
Reply to  Simon
October 21, 2020 11:07 am

Well Tom I assume you will be back if the reverse happens. I respect that.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 20, 2020 7:41 am

“He clearly doesn’t have the popular vote.”

I wouldn’t bet money on that right now.

Trump was asked about the poll numbers this morning and Trump said according to his internal polls, he is winning and doing better than he did in 2016.

Trump is turning out tens of thousands of people at all these rallies he is giving, and there are Trump parades all over the nation with thousands participating, even in States like New York and California.

Trump said this morning he though he might be able to win New York considering eveything that has gone on lately! He said Cuomo and DeBlasio have turned New York City into a Ghost Town.

Ted
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 20, 2020 10:29 pm

If all the mail in ballots that have little to no verification are allowed to stand, Trump loses the popular vote by a landslide. California may tally more Biden votes than living registered voters. But if the mail-in ballots are held to the same standards that Democrats used for military absentee ballots in 2008 and 2000, Trump wins not only the popular vote but maybe California and New York.

goldminor
Reply to  Ted
October 20, 2020 10:47 pm

Tom Fitton states that there are 13 million extra voters as compared to the registered in 13 states. A portion of other states have cleaned up their voter lists, and a portion of states will not send out any data on whether or not voter rolls match with registered voter lists. Thirteen million extra voters mixed in through 13 states is obviously a serious problem.

Reply to  Ted
October 21, 2020 10:18 am

Was just reading about over 400,000 bad ballots sent out in CA, nobody bothering to do anything about it. Total count of bad ballots sent is now about 1.8 million.

Rudi
October 20, 2020 5:37 am

Trump totally lives inside their heads 24h a day and pays no rent for it.
That tells me a lot about their intellectual immune system.

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2020 5:50 am

There ought to be a caption to the pic. How about: would you buy a car from this guy?

James Clarke
October 20, 2020 7:25 am

Michael Mann’s political arguments reveal a lot about his climate science arguments. In this editorial, he makes up a fake past in order to reach his desired political conclusion. Sound familiar?

“Donald Trump will go down in history bearing substantial responsibility for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans due to his rejection of the advice of public health experts and his refusal to endorse policies such as social distancing and mask-wearing…”

There is nothing in that statement that is remotely true. If Mr. Mann has no problem revising the history of the past 8 months for a political agenda, a history that everyone of us lived through, remembers and can easily debunk, how reluctant would he be to revise the Earth’s climate history for a political agenda?

Michael Mann will go down in history as one of the world’s most successful liars, con men and grifters!

October 20, 2020 7:29 am

New Zealand has pols who want to play the green game? Sorry, NZ is not a “playah”…..5 million population is less than many Chinese cities. NZ has no mann-ifest destiny to save the planet.

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 7:37 am

Read through the Green New Deal statements of Uncle Joe and you will easily see the golden nuggets for lobbyist and special interests.

1) rooftop solar instead of utility scale solar at 3x the cost per unit and a gift to the rich with tax credits
2) batteries in every basement instead of grid batteries or 4x the cost per unit
3) transmission upgrades to nowhere to benefit the wind lobby at taxpayer expense
4) electric vehicles for the federal fleet at 2x the cost for taxpayers to eat

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 7:38 am

I wonder what the payoff $$$$$$$ rate is for that claim.

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 7:45 am

The lobbyist planet perhaps and the agenda science team and much of the paid media planet

Joseph Bastardi
October 20, 2020 7:49 am

Wow this is huge news. DR MANN ADMITS DONALD TRUMP IS GOD! After all if one mans election determines the fate of the planet, then that kind of power can only belong to the almighty. Its like Castro blaming the US for controlling the weather by stalling Flora over Cuba. If the US can control the weather, that should have scared the daylights out of people not rallied them. Seems like leftists have a tendency to make such comments and not understand the implications that can be inferred. But then again many of them just appeal to a surface argument without bothering to look underneath. Unfortunately the public is attracted by such things

Donald Trump is not God. Dr Mann is not God, Neither hold the fate of mankind in their hands. You are free to decide who you believe does ( though perhaps not for long). Peace out

October 20, 2020 8:02 am

“Donald Trump will go down in history bearing substantial responsibility for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans”

History is written by the victorious not the sanctimonious.

MarkW
Reply to  Climate believer
October 20, 2020 10:05 am

To believe that claim, one would have to believe that Biden, who was declaring that the moves that Trump did make were xenophobic over reactions, would have done even more had he been president.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Climate believer
October 21, 2020 5:59 am

“Donald Trump will go down in history bearing substantial responsibility for the deaths of over 200,000 Americans”

A more accurate way of putting this is to say that Trump kept the number of deaths limited by his timely actions.

Without quick action to stem the flow of inbound infection, the death toll would be much higher than the current figure.

Noone, other than Trump, would have acted as quickly as Trump, had they been in his position. All his advisors said Trump should not shut down air travel. All Trump’s political opponents said Trump should not shut down air travel. All of his advisors, and all of Trump’s political opponents were wrong. Trump shut down air travel and this action limited the death toll. Dr. Fauci agrees with this, even though he was one who recommended that air travel not be stopped. He said he was wrong, later.

Claiming a better, faster job could have been done, as Joe Biden claims, is absurd. Just the fact that Joe Biden opposed the air travel ban shows if he were in charge at the time, many more people would have died as a result of his inaction on a travel ban. Claiming he could have done it better than Trump is ridiculous.

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 9:45 am

The best outcome is divided government to block the existential threat of wrong way policy going large. Shock and awe dropped on ourselves will not be fun.

October 20, 2020 10:02 am

“Michael Mann: whether or not Trump gets reelected… Could determine the date of our planet”

Agreed.

https://twitter.com/aaronshem/status/1314175755740479490

October 20, 2020 10:04 am

“Michael Mann: whether or not Trump gets reelected… Could determine the fate of our planet”

Agreed.

https://twitter.com/aaronshem/status/1314175755740479490

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 10:08 am

Poor Penn State

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 10:12 am

With Biden and Mann, children won’t know what cycles are.

The great dumbing down of science will accelerate and we will get less for the massive U.S. investment in research while importing more of it from China.

Steven
October 20, 2020 11:31 am

You have to be young and naive to believe the hyperbole spewed during our presidential elections…

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Steven
October 20, 2020 11:59 am

…with significant impairments in critical thinking, eyesight, hearing, keeping attention, and analytical skills.

ResourceGuy
October 20, 2020 12:33 pm

I think maybe he’s looking for a springboard to being the ‘science’ expert for NPR or NOVA or one of the networks. It would be a retirement sweetener for him. White Hose science advisor is too low for him at this point.

Art
October 20, 2020 12:53 pm

Get this flake off the stage.