Prioritizing climate over pandemics

We need a full accounting of what was spent preparing for the ‘climate crisis’ versus COVID

Paul Driessen

As of May 20, the United States had more than 1.5 million confirmed cases of Wuhan Coronavirus. US deaths related or attributed to the virus topped 92,000 (though many were really due to old age and related co-morbidities). Because of COVID, much of the US economy has been shut down since late March. More than 36 million American workers have now filed for unemployment insurance, while tens of millions more have been furloughed or seen their hours and/or salaries reduced severely.

With infections, cases and deaths declining, lockdowns and stay-home orders are finally easing, though only slightly and slowly in many areas. Millions of businesses face bankruptcy or simple disappearance, and rebuilding the recently vibrant US economy will likely take years. Lockdown-related deaths from medical screenings and treatments foregone, suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, other diseases of despair, and other causes will likely kill many tens of thousands of Americans in the coming years.

The Eurozone is likewise in dire straits, as are countless other countries around the world. Impoverished Africa is being hit by the Coronavirus and starvation amid one of the worst locust plagues in its history.

Perhaps the most vital and fundamental role of government, at every level, is to protect its citizenry from criminals, foreign invasions, natural disasters and other threats – including pandemics that have ravaged mankind repeatedly throughout history. This raises two enormously important questions.

One, aside from the sudden appearance of the Wuhan COVID-19 pandemic – and bungling and duplicity by Chinese and World Health Organization (WHO) officials – why was the US response so slow?

Wall Street Journal and other articles suggest that “missteps” nearly everywhere helped magnify problems. Multiple federal government reports called attention to potential threats and inadequacies during future pandemics, but only modest steps were ever taken to prepare for them.

For example, a Strategic National Stockpile was established in 1999 for pharmaceuticals needed in a terrorist attack, natural disaster or pandemic, but Congress never allocated ongoing funding for pandemic preparations. The Bush, Obama and Trump administrations focused more on preparing for chemical, biological and other terrorist attacks than on pandemics. Reliance on foreign production (mostly Chinese) for N95 masks (30%) and surgical masks (90%) was highlighted but not addressed; expanding Made in America capacity was mostly just a slogan.

Left with large quantities of personal protective equipment (PPE), respirators and other items after the Swine Flu epidemic that ended in 2009, most manufacturers that had ramped up production during the epidemic refused to maintain high output capacity. Hospitals with similar experiences slashed inventories of masks, respirators and other supplies, to reduce costs; their inventory tracking software and programs focused on economic efficiency, rather than availability and resiliency during pandemics.

One healthcare system that did stock up on masks failed to replace them after their expiration date, and brittle elastic bands made them unusable. After Maryland (and probably other states) acquired abundant Coronavirus test kits, regulatory red tape and inefficiencies prevented their use for over a week.

Little has been reported about state or local studies, plans, actions or stockpiles for pandemics. However, in recent years New York City sold off its ventilator stockpiles to avoid spending more money on storage and maintenance. Perhaps logical at the time, NYC’s decision led to shortages and chaos amid Corona.

Far more lethal was NY Governor Cuomo’s decision to compel nursing homes with acutely vulnerable patients to admit recovering (and likely still contagious) COVID patients – even though the Javits Center and USS Comfort had some 2,000 empty beds. Other states did likewise, and far too many imposed blanket policies for all hospitals and clinics statewide, based on acute problems in a few urban centers.

Post-pandemic analyses, actions and preparations must ensure these “mistakes” never happen again.

Two, what were all these government entities focusing on – if not recurrent pandemics? Put another way: How much money, attention, task force time and policymaking was devoted during the past several decades to preparing for pandemics, drug and PPE needs, and safe nursing homes – versus:

How much was devoted to “dangerous manmade climate change” … closing down fossil fuel production, pipelines and use … mandating and subsidizing wind, solar and biofuel operations … and adapting bridges and other infrastructure to rising seas and other alleged manmade climate crisis disasters?

Cumulative climate and renewable energy spending at federal, state and local levels over the past several decades was certainly in the hundreds of billions of dollars over this period, if not trillions. Government time devoted to climate change and renewable energy certainly totaled many millions of hours.

It is unclear whether anyone has any idea how much money, time and resources were devoted to climate research, modeling, preparation, mitigation, “educations,” conferences and just plain fear-mongering.

It’s equally uncertain whether any federal or state study examined how much was devoted to preparing for pandemics. But it was very likely a tiny fraction of the climate change/renewable energy total.

What is clear is that hardworking American taxpayers absolutely deserve and must get a full accounting of how much money and personnel time were devoted to both of these threats.

They deserve to know how much was devoted to protecting families and communities from pandemics like the Wuhan Coronavirus and ensuing economic collapse (and perhaps to other bona fide real-world disasters like hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts) – versus

crises that exist primarily in unverified computer models and endless assertions that every temperature rise, drought, species loss and extreme weather event was unprecedented and due to fossil fuel use – despite a near total absence of real-world evidence to support any of those claims.

The Department of Defense alone spent billions on climate initiatives and renewable fuels during the Obama era. How much did it spend preparing for pandemics on aircraft carriers and during basic training? How many billions did federal, state and local healthcare agencies spend on climate change versus past and future pandemics? How much money and attention did those healthcare agencies devote to our excessive dependence on China for masks, pharmaceutical components, metals, critical materials and solar panels?

The United States and individual states established countless agencies, task forces, and special legislative and regulatory panels devoted to climate change. How many did they establish for pandemics? In the seven years following the 2009 Swine Flu Epidemic, how much money and attention did the Obama Administration devote to pandemic prevention and mitigation? How about all those House and Senate committees and staffers? All those state agencies, state legislatures, counties and city councils? 

In just a few months, the Wuhan Coronavirus locked us in our homes, shuttered our businesses, cost the United States trillions of dollars in lost economic output, and resulted in hundreds of billions in lost tax revenues. Even if we attribute every flood, drought, hurricane, tornado and dead polar bear to manmade climate change, the cumulative impact of our fossil fuel use won’t come anywhere near that.

Does Congress have the stomach for digging into this? for appointing a “blue ribbon task force” to do so? Will any editors and “investigative journalists” at the Washington Post or New York Times take up the challenge? Will any states, counties or cities? Will President Trump appoint a special commission?

They don’t have to address the issue of real-world crises versus those that exist only in climate models and environmentalist press releases. They just need to tally up expenditures on the pandemic and climate sides of the ledger. That would ensure a factual, data-driven analysis, and minimize the politics.

Indeed, Europeans, Canadians, Australians and people everywhere deserve to know how national, state and local governments allocated and spent tax revenues on climate versus disease preparation and relief.

There are good reasons why only 2% of Americans believe “climate change” (manmade, dangerous, natural or otherwise) is the most important problem facing the United States. Federal, state and local accountings are long overdue – as are a reordering of government priorities. Will we ever get them?

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power ● Black death and other books and articles on energy, environment, climate and human rights issues.

53 thoughts on “Prioritizing climate over pandemics

  1. “crises that exist primarily in unverified computer models and endless assertions that every temperature rise, drought, species loss and extreme weather event was unprecedented and due to fossil fuel use – despite a near total absence of real-world evidence to support any of those claims.”

    Great quote.
    I have long espoused that it is far beyond high time humanity devoted it’s energies and efforts and passions into solving real problems, not as noted above politically motivated “problems”.
    The list of real problems is very long – pick your favorite charity, dangers from space, exploration of our world that we know so little about, affordable energy to all humanity so it can achieve prosperity and healthy long life – with the naturally ensuing falling birth rates of affluent societies.
    It really is that simple; kick the looney left out and let’s get on with life on our terms…
    De-fund the UN anyone?

  2. I think Americans can be fairly sure that San Fran Nancy will convene a commission in the House of Representatives to investigate “why Trump colluded with China and tried to kill off Democrat voters by mishandling the Chicom Virus kerfuffle”, or something like that. Climate Change? Yes. Summer. Wait for it.

    • Ron
      From what we understand quite clearly, the USA and China were jointly developing this virus, in Nth Carolina and Wuhan. Obama said get rid of it from USA soil, but Tony Fauci kept funding it right up to the end through the back door.

      Therefore it is a USA-CHI virus that was unleashed on the world. Please correct me if I am wrong.

      • You appear to subscribe to the escape from lab theory which may be the case. There are two labs in Wuhan engaged in bat virology but only the Wuhan Virology Institute with any U.S. ties.

        With regard to the Wuhan Virology Institute, it seems that multiple countries funded research there on corona viruses. The U.S. NIH grants were funneled through EcoHealth Alliance, Inc. The lab is operated by the Chinese and the Chinese are responsible for its security. The lab, unsurprisingly denies any viral release. U.S. officials have been denied access, so it’s difficult to conduct forensics analysis.

        The question of whether any U.S. funds should have been used there is valid, but assigning blame to the U.S. or any other country or company that supported work there is wrong for a number of reasons. First, what exactly happened is not clear. The CCP is ultimately responsible for the administration and security of the lab itself, in addition to local response to the outbreak in Wuhan and all communications with regard to the outbreak.

      • Ozonebust
        It is one thing to construct a plausible story that some people will be quick to uncritically accept. It is quite another to provide evidence to prove the claims. You asked to be corrected. It is not the responsibility of readers to ‘correct’ your claims. Rather, it is your responsibility to prove them. Or, in the words of Carl Sagan, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Sagan didn’t invent the idea, as it was preceded by Laplace in a more eloquent statement, “The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness.” The bottom line is that any fool can invent claims, but only another fool will accept it at face value in the absence of evidence.

        • Good comment Clyde. To quote Richard P. Feynman… The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.

          I am not sure if I believe much anymore what I read and see anywhere. I don’t know if this is a sign of wisdom, or early onset dementia. Everything seems to be becoming so polarized, I am unsure how stable anything/everything is anymore. Welcome to post normal/modern truth.

          • Earthling2
            There are times that I feel that our political system is crumbling around us. Then, when I reflect on the motivation behind the movie “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington” (1939), starring Jimmy Stuart, I suspect that things have always been this way and we didn’t realize it because we got all our information from newspapers. The internet has provided the opportunity for alternate views and facts. Which is all the more reason to call out the wingnuts that would pollute the alternatives with unicorn fantasies.

          • Welcome, Earthling, to such real living wisdom as was recorded for our benefit fully 3 millennia ago in the testimony of King Solomon (‘Ecclesiastes’) who near the end of a long and extremely privileged life (and so exceptionally able to experiment with so many seemingly desirable attainments) candidly admitted just how much of what he had pursued undeniably turned out to be ‘vanity’. History is rife with our bumbling attempts at forcing things our own way, either by individual or communal fiat, while masking the actual costs and outcomes so as not to damage our self-medicating inflated pride. A very few show the courage to honestly survey just exactly who that is in the mirror and so avail themselves of that humble freedom that emerges from the truth.

  3. That is true for many other domains that deserve much more attention. Since everyone’s attention is glued to a crisis that cannot even be established by data but still needs models that fall apart quicker than Chinese ghost towns, nobody looks at the real problems anymore. And anyone who still does is starved of funds and attention. There are still serious environmental problems afflicting this planet. Real problems – not imagined ones. We still have to fight a plethora of viruses, bacteria, and other parasites that kill way more people than COVID ever did. There are still people that are so poor that food is an issue. All issues that are way more worthy of our attention and cash than some unproven theories.

    • IMHO most of the food problem can be solved by electrical systems for those without. The UN, EU and other group thinkers are denying them access by insisting that loans for creating the systems have to be unreliable wind and solar. Cheap reliable systems can be had and in come cases would be coal as there is coal available in country. At present, any food they obtain has to be consumed right away and there is no refrigeration for anything.

  4. I don’t think you can really do a cost benefit analysis CBA comparing climate change vs covid.
    If you do, why not include CBA for Military as well.
    What you can do, is a CBA of covid vs other illnesses.
    $ spent to save one life from covid to $ spent to saving one life from(cancer, diabetes ect)
    You could even do for road accidents.

    I thinks the numbers will be shocking.
    My guess is more than $20 million a life

  5. Let’s face it – most rational taxpaying adults wouldn’t get too exercised about whether the world was going to warm up to Roman times or not, were it not for the obscene amount of our money being p1ssed away on this esoteric question, and the totally useless commitment of wind turbines and solar panels as substitutes for generating grid scale base load power.

  6. “One, aside from the sudden appearance of the Wuhan COVID-19 pandemic – and bungling and duplicity by Chinese and World Health Organization (WHO) officials – why was the US response so slow?”

    The China virus was not deliberate bio-weapon attack upon the rest of world. Or at least a very low chance, but the depths of stupidity can’t be completely dismissed- especially if consider an accident, later morphs into a stupid plan.
    But if ignore intentions, it was “like” a deliberate bio-weapon attack. And one ask why US {and most of the rest of world] not prepared for a potential bio-weapon attack.
    Or it seems if wanted to do a deliberate bio-weapon attack you want to start with lot carriers of a virus which then rapidly disseminate throughout your target population.
    And the failure to stop international air travel {but as Chinese did fail to do, but China did stop it’s domestic air travel} is a way to do this.
    So why weren’t nations prepared for bio-weapon attack? Or a nation which was made into an economic superpower, to so badly fail to protect the world from a global pandemic.
    It’s not something the US or EU would fail so badly. Or both EU and US have huge amount of international air travel, and so did, China.
    Also India has a lot international air travel, it also wouldn’t have failed as badly as China did.

    –Two, what were all these government entities focusing on – if not recurrent pandemics? Put another way: How much money, attention, task force time and policymaking was devoted during the past several decades to preparing for pandemics, drug and PPE needs, and safe nursing homes – versus:

    How much was devoted to “dangerous manmade climate change” … closing down fossil fuel production, pipelines and use … mandating and subsidizing wind, solar and biofuel operations … and adapting bridges and other infrastructure to rising seas and other alleged manmade climate crisis disasters?–

    I think a lot money wasted on “dangerous manmade climate change” and vast amounts regulations and bureaucracies engaged governmental enormous corruption. But I would say near zero preparation or any thing effective being done combat a fantasy that all knew was just hype.

    No, the main the distraction was congressional leadership focused on an unlawful attempt to impeach a US president.
    And media continuing in decades long to failure to be a 4th estate- with it’s fake news and fake reporters, and generally being stupid and evil.

  7. I have begun to believe that when it comes to dealing with the Wuhan Flu, all of the so called experts are just making it up. In the immortal words of Hollywood wizard William Goldman ( Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Princess Bride): “Nobody knows anything”. In evidence, I offer Japan:

    Did Japan Just Beat the Virus Without Lockdowns or Mass Testing? By Lisa Du and Grace Huang | May 24, 2020 | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-22/did-japan-just-beat-the-virus-without-lockdowns-or-mass-testing

    Japan’s state of emergency is set to end with new cases of the coronavirus dwindling to mere dozens. It got there despite largely ignoring the default playbook.

    No restrictions were placed on residents’ movements, and businesses from restaurants to hairdressers stayed open. No high-tech apps that tracked people’s movements were deployed. The country doesn’t have a center for disease control. And even as nations were exhorted to “test, test, test,” Japan has tested just 0.2% of its population — one of the lowest rates among developed countries.

    * * *

    Experts consulted by Bloomberg News also suggested a myriad of factors that contributed to the outcome, and none could point to a singular policy package that could be replicated in other countries. …

  8. Accounting of climate change?
    Alarmists do want to go anywhere near quantitative analysis of potential damage of climate change.

  9. “US deaths related or attributed to the virus topped 92,000 (though many were really due to old age and related co-morbidities).”

    Not to mention:

    * Many of those deaths are simply fiction (presumptive diagnoses without a test)
    * Many deaths were facilitated by homicidal state governors who sentenced nursing home residents to death by seeding their facilities with infected persons
    * Many deaths were/are caused by doctors who didn’t/don’t know what they’re doing, and hospital administrators who prioritized hospital employees’ perceived safety over patients’ well-being, and changed policy to intubate early to prevent aerosolization of virus’; profit motive is also a possibility (more money from Medicare and much easier to manage intubated patients).

    • “ Many deaths were facilitated by homicidal state governors who sentenced nursing home residents to death by seeding their facilities with infected persons”

      I heard Cuomo interviewed and asked what he had to say to all the relatives of people killed in nursing homes and what I heard was absolute drivel. The guy is a giant douche.

      MN’s governor, to my knowledge , was not asked the same question even though the majority of deaths in MN were in nursing homes.

  10. Florida hurricane evacuations may be a good analogy for covid lockdowns.
    1. Scientific based projections of size and route of hurricane.
    2. Evacuate only people projected to be impacted by hurricane.
    3. Evacuation has cost
    4. Evacuation saves lives
    5. Some mistakes in projection of size and route are made. This has cost.
    6. Can adjust projection. Evacuate more or send people home.
    7. Can learn for next time.

    Change above
    Hurricane becomes covid
    Evacuation becomes lockdown

  11. Paul,

    This is the most ‘hard hitting ‘ essay’ I have ever read and very much to the point.

  12. NYC has 25% of the deaths.
    That takes some kind of special talent.
    NYC, NY, NJ and MA together have more deaths than the ENTIRE rest of the country combined.
    The top ten: NYC, NY, NJ, MA, MI, PA, IL, CA, LA and FL account for 78% of the deaths.
    This is NOT a national problem!
    These states have got some serious problems and they are NOT ours!!!
    Blaming China just takes the heat off these BLUE health care disasters!

    • Are you safer in a State with a Democratic or Republican Governor? Here the data as of 5/24/20:

      States with Democratic Governors:
      Combined Population: 178M
      CV-19 reported deaths/1M pop: 416

      States with Republican Governors:
      Combined Population: 146M
      CV-19 reported deaths/1M pop: 160

  13. I remain quite sure any “Government Inquiry” will meet the same standard as the fine works done on the CRU emails by Sir Russell Muir and then Lord Oxburgh
    “A Blinder well played..” is the kind of quality I would expect if you forced an examination of Resources put into Pandemic Preparedness versus Manufacturing evidence of Man Made Global Warming..Climate Change.

    I would not expect the truth in any form as the last time a Learned Judge came back with “An orchestrated litany of lies” with regard to government actions,he was ignored.

  14. Even in the face of a real crisis the AGW delusion runs deep.

    And we (The West) have a serious problem in that nearly an entire field of science depends on this issue for its revenue. There was and remains a serious amount of money flowing to our academic institutions that has inspired many to enter the field over the past 30 years. If this issue “goes away”, so does the foundation for their chosen career. So for them this is still a very personal and emotional situation.

    There are also a lot of influential scientists, politicians, and various media/entertainment personalities who have put their personal credibility on the line by making statements on the absolute certainty of this issue. It is going to be very difficult for them to admit they were wrong as these people tend to be more narcissistic than the general population. They believe they are smarter, they believe they are better informed, and they believe their own judgement to be better than that of the average person. For them to say the skeptics were correct is not going to happen.

    But it is even bigger than all of that. There is a great synergy where a political group uses the issue to get the buy-in to spend billions of dollars on their political objectives. Environmental groups use the issue also get the buy-in for their objectives. People who champion the issue (and themselves) are launched to celebrity status. And finally we have the people whose careers were built on AGW and maybe those careers would be at stake if it turns out the world needs fewer “climate scientists”.

    So we will continue to witness this great circling of the wagons with celebrities, politicians and “scientists” all working together to keep the AGW issue going and convincing the general public that any changes in climate are due to human actions by people in industrialized countries.

    Eventually, by the end of this century, the science will win out and this stinky little climate change creature will find its place on the back shelves alongside all the other man-made hobgoblins that have come and gone.

  15. From the article: “As of May 20, the United States had more than 1.5 million confirmed cases of Wuhan Coronavirus. US deaths related or attributed to the virus topped 92,000 (though many were really due to old age and related co-morbidities).”

    So if these older people had not been infected with the Wuhan virus, they would have died anyway? How would that be known? Answer: It isn’t known, this is just speculation.

    • It’s speculation either way, but much more likely that the many who died in nursing facilities were near the end of life.

      • While an average longevity for a population approaching 80 years doesn’t speak for any single individual, the overall expectation for our ‘expiration date’ stands beyond our impressive capacity for denial, not to mention anyone with already identifiable failing vital organ systems. And as the talented Guilda Radner (who is herself no longer with us) would fatalistically conclude while impersonating the gritty ‘Roseanne Rosannadanna’ decades ago on those old Saturday Night Live TV shows, “It’s always somethin’!” (that spoils it for you).

  16. “How much was devoted to “dangerous manmade climate change” … closing down fossil fuel production, pipelines and use … mandating and subsidizing wind, solar and biofuel operations … and adapting bridges and other infrastructure to rising seas and other alleged manmade climate crisis disasters?”

    A very interesting insight by paul driessen. How much of the inadequacy of the covid response is due to climate action priorities? Real crises overridden by imaginary climate crises. If we can cross the tees and dot the eyes in this analysis, there will be lawsuits and maybe criminal charges. Should be anyway. Thank you Paul Driessen. Hope I spelled that right.

  17. From the article: “Because of COVID, much of the US economy has been shut down since late March. More than 36 million American workers have now filed for unemployment insurance, while tens of millions more have been furloughed or seen their hours and/or salaries reduced severely.

    With infections, cases and deaths declining, lockdowns and stay-home orders are finally easing, though only slightly and slowly in many areas. Millions of businesses face bankruptcy or simple disappearance, and rebuilding the recently vibrant US economy will likely take years. Lockdown-related deaths from medical screenings and treatments foregone, suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, other diseases of despair, and other causes will likely kill many tens of thousands of Americans in the coming years.”

    This is just wild speculation.

    Why don’t we just wait until we get some actual figures before we go making wild claims about the state of the economy and the state of the health of the people? Yeah, I know, that’s hard for some people to do.

    You know something: People are inventive and resilient. They might surprise you.

    The wild speculation without any substantiation is noted.

  18. From the article: “One, aside from the sudden appearance of the Wuhan COVID-19 pandemic – and bungling and duplicity by Chinese and World Health Organization (WHO) officials – why was the US response so slow?”

    Slow?

    Trump shut down traffic from China on January 31, 2020.

    The WHO and China said on January 14, 2020, that there was no evidence of human-to-human spread of the Wuhan virus.

    So Trump had two weeks to decide if the WHO and China were lying, and most people were looking at Wuhan as another version of SARS which didn’t amount to much when it appeared, so they were not afraid of the Wuhan virus, and China is claiming it is not transmissible.

    Trump shut down the traffic right after the first cases appeared in the U.S. Two weeks after China said there was no virus problem.

    Trump shut down traffic just as soon as he understood what was going on with the Wuhan virus.

    As for being slow with ventilators and PPE and testing, that was because none of that was available at the time the Wuhan virus made its appearance.

    What you should be marveling at is just how quickly Trump got the whole thing up and running from scratch. You don’t hear the Leftwing Media complaining about ventilators anymore because Trump has produced an abundace of ventilators. The same with PPE and with testing. Trump went from zero to providing us with what we need in two months.

    Trump said on the day he took office that his military general came up to him and told him the United States was out of ammunition! As soon as Trump found this out, the shortage was fixed pronto. Obama and Biden left us vulnerable.

    The same with the Healthcare infrastructure. Trump was given an empty cupboard and had to fill it up. And if anyone thinks they could have done this job quicker than Trump, they are dreaming.

    • “Trump shut down traffic from China on January 31, 2020.”
      He did not. He restricted entry of non-US citizens. Traffic continued. 271 flights, carrying 40000 people, arrived after the “shut down”, with no provision for quarantine.

      “So Trump had two weeks to decide if the WHO and China were lying”
      He did not. On 20-21 Jan a WHO group, including Dr Martin Cetron, of the US CDC, went to Wuhan, where the Chinese clearly described the history of transmission. The group took back a recommendation for declaration of emergency. Meanwhile the Chinese closed off all travel in and out of Wuhan on 23 Jan, and next day of Hubei province. There was no secret about these actions.

      • ” Traffic continued. 271 flights, carrying 40000 people,”
        You omitted mention that these travellers were US Citizens.

      • “He did not. On 20-21 Jan a WHO group, including Dr Martin Cetron, of the US CDC, went to Wuhan, where the Chinese clearly described the history of transmission. The group took back a recommendation for declaration of emergency.”

        That is an assertion I haven’t heard made before. How about a link to this claim.

        • Here is the summary report of the delegation that visited Wuhan 20-21 Jan. On the basis of that, WHO convened an Emergency Committee meeting, which met 22-23 Jan; the proceedings are here. At the head is a link to members of that committee, which include Dr Cetron. Some nations resisted the immediate declaration of a top-level emergency at that point, but they did it a week later. Dr Cetron and the US were in those discussions.

        • Here is another report, 17 Jan, of a CDC decision to screen airline passengers from Wuhan at US airports. It references a statement by CDC (US) Jan 6th, warning US doctors of the possibility of arrival in America.

          “As of this posting, case-patients in the cluster reportedly have had fever, difficulty breathing, and bilateral lung infiltrates on chest radiograph. For patients with similar respiratory symptoms who recently traveled to Wuhan, consider pneumonia related to the cluster and notify infection control personnel and your local health department immediately”

          It’s just untrue to say that the US was left unaware of the danger of the virus until 31 Jan.

        • Here’s the WHO timeline:

          https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline—covid-19

          14 January 2020

          WHO’s technical lead for the response noted in a press briefing there may have been limited human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus (in the 41 confirmed cases), mainly through family members, and that there was a risk of a possible wider outbreak. The lead also said that human-to-human transmission would not be surprising given our experience with SARS, MERS and other respiratory pathogens.”

          See how the WHO changes their story. Their tweet of Jan 14, said there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission. So they change it in their timeline to read “limited” human-to-human transmission. I hear the WHO is trying to get Twitter to erase their Jan 14, tweet. It’s so inconvenient to be caught in a lie.

          20-21 January 2020

          WHO experts from its China and Western Pacific regional offices conducted a brief field visit to Wuhan.”

          So the U.S. is supposed to know all about the Wuhan virus from this?

          22 January 2020

          WHO mission to China issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan but more investigation was needed to understand the full extent of transmission.”

          The WHO and the Chinese leadership presented no evidence they had a dangerous virus on their hands, yet Trump shut down travel from China a little over a week after the WHO and the Chinese leadership said officially that there was human-to-human transmission.

          Trump shut down traffic even though every one of his advisors (21 of them) said he should not do so. And when he went ahead and did it, the Democrats and the Chinese leadership and the WHO all criticized him for stopping traffic.

          Who else would have done what Trump did? NOBODY!

          If you want to continue this, I’ll see about digging up some timelines of statements by all the parties involved, and we’ll just see if Trump didn’t act fast enough. Dr. Fauci and other officials and Democrats were downplaying the severity of the virus long after Trump shut down traffic on Jan. 31, 2020.

          • “So the U.S. is supposed to know all about the Wuhan virus from this?”
            Yes. I linked the report. WHO convened an Emergency Committee immediately, which then met to consider the report, to see about a health emergency declaration, 22-23rd. The US was represented on that committee by a top CDC man, Dr Martin Cetron. This is a big deal.

            But anyway, China isolating a huge city on the 23rd Jan is a signal hard to miss. And next day, a whole province.

          • “Yes. I linked the report. WHO convened an Emergency Committee immediately, which then met to consider the report, to see about a health emergency declaration, 22-23rd. The US was represented on that committee by a top CDC man, Dr Martin Cetron. This is a big deal.”

            Well, Dr. Cetron must have kept the knowledge to himself. Do you have any links where Dr. Cetron sounds the alarm bell? If he is a CDC man, then why didn’t the CDC sound an alarm?

            My guess is Dr. Cetron didn’t get enough information to sound any kind of significant alarm because no alarm was sounded. If you have information to the contrary please provide it.

  19. Nick…POTUS let only Americans and there spouses and a few other limited cases return to USA soil. He made the declaration Jan 31, but didn’t come into effect until Feb 2. All countries tried in earnest to repatriate their citizens, including spouses and children. Be honest when you twist stuff up.

    From Fact Check…

    Trump issues an executive order Jan 31 blocking entry to the US from anyone who has been in China in the last 14 days. It does not apply to US residents and family members or spouses of US residents or citizens. The order becomes effective on February 2.

    The waters were certainly muddy after the initial WHO and China declarations in early to mid January. They both lied and you know it. The whole world knows its and that is why China has dung on its face and is going to pay through the nose for all this.

        • Nick picks nits.

          That’s all he does almost all of the time. He still seems completely oblivious as to how it makes him look, and how it causes his other, sometimes sensible, comments to be ignored.

          • It’s called butt hurt. Every day the climate apocalypse fails to happen is one more day he tinkers with his models in his basement oozing out one more “still within range” statements.

          • Zig Zag
            Stokes argues like a lawyer who is more interested in getting a “Not Guilty” verdict than in discovering the truth.

  20. taxpayers’ money continues to fund the climate alarmism on ABC Australia.

    Ken Henry, who is featured, is an economist & public servant:

    VIDEO: 7min: Sky News: Australia’s reduced emissions ‘ruining ABC’s fear narrative’
    Sky News host Chris Kenny says the deadly coronavirus pandemic has been “an unwanted interruption” to the ABC’s “normal fear-mongering, alarmism and evangelism on global warming”.
    Mr Kenny said following the bad bushfire season, the ABC was using the disasters which were observed “to ramp up its climate change campaigning”. However, this was “rudely interrupted” by the breaking of the drought and the COVID-19 health crisis.

    Mr Kenny referenced a recent Four Corners report which had “former politicians and leading public servants lamenting the demise of a carbon price, and emissions trading scheme, a carbon tax …. whatever you want to call it”.
    He said the program’s main focus was “really about climate policy” but omitted “some crucial facts”.
    He said the program “didn’t want to mention that we’re actually reducing emissions (as) that would ruin the narrative”…
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6158998859001
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  21. 24 May: Yahoo Australia: ‘Designed for humans’: Aussie scientists make disturbing new coronavirus claims
    by Nick Whigham
    Speculation about the origins of the novel coronavirus continues as Australian scientists insist the possibility it came from a lab can’t be ruled out…
    The SARS-CoV-2 virus, which results in the COVID-19 disease, binds to human cells more potently than any of the tested animal species using the computer modelling, including bats.
    “Which argues against bats being a direct source of the human virus,” says lead author professor Nikolai Petrovsky.

    In a paper published this month, but yet to be peer reviewed, the Australian scientists pointed to a number of reasons why the virus became so well adapted to humans, such as convergent evolution after exposure to human cells, rare mutations that mix two species genes, and exposure to human cells very early in the pandemic.
    But they say it’s impossible, at this point, to rule out the hypothesis that is was created in a cell-culture experiment in a lab…
    Prof Petrovsky is calling for a comprehensive scientific inquiry into the origins of the virus.
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-scientists-say-virus-designed-specifically-for-humans-234837177.html

    24 May: UK Sun: LAB SCANDAL Scientist says coronavirus ‘uniquely adapted to infect humans’ and Wuhan lab must be probed over claims it leaked virus
    by Jon Lockett
    A WORRYING scientific report claims coronavirus is “uniquely adapted to infect humans” raising fears it may have been made in a Chinese lab.
    A team of top researchers have now said those looking into the origins of the outbreak should probe the possibility it “leaked” from a science hub in the city of Wuhan.

    Professor Nikolai Petrovsky, who headed the Australian team, said the virus was not typical of a normal animal-to-human infection as it had the “exceptional” ability to enter our bodies immediately…
    The Professor said the most closely related known viruses were studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
    “The implications may not be good for scientists or global politics, but just because the answers might cause problems, we can’t run away from them,’ he said.
    “There is currently no evidence of a leak but enough circumstantial data to concern us. It remains a possibility until it is ruled out.”…

    Today’s reports come after it was claimed analysis of mobile phone data showed the Wuhan lab shut down in October…
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11697035/scientist-coronavirus-uniquely-adapted-human-wuhan-lab/

  22. I just heard New York Governor Andrew Cuomo claim that all the virus computer models are wrong. That he can’t depend on them.

    That’s the conventional “wisdom” right now. It just goes to show that if something is repeated long enough and loud enough, then a lot of people believe the claim.

    The truth is the virus computer model President Trump uses as a guide initially predicted that there would be between 100,000 to 140,000 deaths from the Wuhan virus if we took steps to mitigate its spread by social distancing.

    The current number of deaths from Wuhan virus in the U.S. stands at 99,395. Tomorrow it will hit the 100,000 number. The number that was initially predicted by the University of Washington.

    So Governor Cuomo, you are wrong, just like all the other people who claim the virus computer modesl are junk. Cuomo should use some other excuse for his failures. The virus models have not failed. You are seriously mistaken, and you are misleading people, and undermining their faith in their leadership, by making such claims.

    So much disinformation, so little time.

  23. And let me add something about Blue State governors preventing people from worshipping in their churches, and other places of worship.

    Let me quote from the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

    In other words it is unconstitutional to restrict religious worship in any way.

    The only lawful way of restricting worship is for the president to declare Martial Law. And the president has not declared Martial Law.

    The Blue State governors have no legal right to order churches to do anything with regard to how they worship. The U.S. Supreme Court will certainly overturn any such orders.

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