Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Breitbart; Michael Moore is adding to the growing chaos in green circles, by affirming deep green tropes like “the Pandemic is a warning”, but also repeating his suggestion that big green has been quietly taken over by the very people they are supposed by be opposing.
Michael Moore teases ‘shocking’ new documentary, says coronavirus is a ‘warning from Mother Nature’
Sara M Moniuszko USA TODAY
April 27, 2020Michael Moore is teasing his controversial new documentary about the environment.
During an appearance on MSNBC Sunday, the filmmaker, 66, shared how the coronavirus pandemic is related to the themes of “Planet of the Humans,” which examines climate change and the green energy movement.
“We are in dangerous, dangerous shape here, and this pandemic should act as a warning from Mother Nature that … our behavior is not appreciated,” he said. “And the fact that we have treated the species on this planet – species that often times give us these viruses. It’s a failure of us – all of us who call ourselves environmentalists.”
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Moore also claimed that corporations and parts of Wall Street have been trying to “take over the green energy movement because they see profit in it.”
“They try to buy off certain people and organizations within the movement,” he said.
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Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/04/27/michael-moore-planet-humans-doc-out-talks-coronavirus/3031584001/
What do you guys think is happening?
Is Michael Moore making a brutal power grab, maybe even an eventual run at the Presidency, by putting down all his potential rivals as corporate sellouts?
Is “Planet of the Humans” an exercise in integrity, is Moore an honest man who is maybe dead wrong on a few issues, who can no longer stand the money grubbing hypocrisy of his green fellow travellers?
Or is there another explanation?
Whatever Moore’s goals and motivation, Moore’s new documentary is a huge challenge to the established green order. Greens desperately want to censor Moore’s documentary, but heavy handed green attempts to silence criticism by one of their own, someone who has a huge following in his own right, just add credibility to Moore’s accusations of a widespread green sellout to corporate interests.
How about a documentary film on all the seaside estates of the AGW promoters who made money off rising seas scare agendas. All you need is a boat, a camera, and some tide gauge data.
and a well known name as producer, with a ego appealing to the Green mob.
There are already a wealth of damn good films out there in the Internet clouds, but without fairly prominent actors, producers and connections, it is difficult to promote a film controversial to the audience you want to reach.
So whatever Moore’s inner thoughts are and were, is not paramount important. Important is that the film may be seen by enough Greens to make an impact. Mr. Moore could even end up receiving the Nobel price as a fighter for the common Green good (or something like that), if he had not gone against the majority of the Green industry. Mr. Gore got a lot more things wrong (read everything), but succeeded due to his already prominent name and great connections.
If you are not playing golf with the right people, you will have difficulties.
re: ” All you need is a boat, ”
Ahem.
We’re living in the age of the drone camera … Side question: Did you happen to see the drone fly-over of the Epstein island estate?
Moore is a jilted true believer who just discovered that his beloved has been stepping out on him and has been doing the horizontal mambo with his nemesis (corporatism). His environmentalism is secondary to his hatred of corporate greed. Tilting at the GM windmill is where he cut his teeth and it’s where his heart lies. And now the wheel of life has brought him full circle, discovering that the Green movement is nothing more than a corporate greenwashing scheme.
Most leftists define greed as being having more than the leftist does.
How dare those evil capitalists have more than I do, I am way more virtuous than any of them.
this pandemic should act as a warning from Mother Nature that … our behavior is not appreciated
What absurd logic. I wonder what he would think about someone who said AIDS is a curse from God against gays.
Just watched the film. Pretty much common sense information that anyone knowing anything about the issues with green energy already know. The did not really get into no fossil fuels by 2050 or utter lunacy such as the green new deal, but overall a damning critic of green power. It is the emperor has no clothes moment for the left and Micheal Moore is the unlikely person calling him out.
Sorry, but the WuWT commentariat here (most of them) have totally dropped the ball.
1) The movie isn’t actually by Michael Moore. He gave money for it (i.e. executive producer) and promoted it, but the actual script and what not is by Gibbs.
2) Whatever you want to say about Michael Moore, he’s not a hypocrite. He’s 100% socialist and doesn’t pretend otherwise.
3) Have you people actually watched the film?
It shows Sierra Club, McKibben, Al Gore and “Blood” money-man as sellouts and/or hypocrites in their own words. I always believed McKibben was a scumbag but even I was surprised by just how much of a scumbag he really is.
It interviews people who are in the wind and solar industries, as well as people who are green but have looked at the details of renewable energy.
Every ad hominem attack on Michael Moore or this film by anyone at WuWT is reprising climate panicmonger consensus tactics: group think as opposed to independent evaluation.
re: “He gave money for it (i.e. executive producer) ”
Its in the credit roll … pretty obvious to those of us (like me) who viewed the entire thing. The rest of your comment represents a fairly broad smear, which I think is unwarranted, but ride your ‘hobby horse’ as you see fit …
So being a rich socialist excuses one from going on and on about the evils of other people being rich?
good questions
I still don’t understand why Moore was part of this NOW, as this can only help Trump in november
If Moore is anthropomorphising Mother Nature and claiming ‘she’ is punishing mankind then the virus ought to be renamed Greta, as it can only be as intelligent and ‘know’ as much as her. Sheesh!
Building and operating variable energy resources (VARs) such as wind, solar, and gas-fired backup generation offers excellent profit making opportunities in power markets where cheap, reliable baseload power generation is being forced off the grid by renewable energy mandates.
The customers for these variable energy resources are the politicians who support green energy mandates and those voters among their political constituencies who elect those politicians. By giving these customers just what they want, the suppliers of VAR electric power services are only doing what good capitalists do, they are making a respectable profit off of whatever products and services the market demands.
The inherent variability of the VARs offers a number of opportunities for manipulating the power markets in ways that are opaque to the average electricity consumer. For green energy politicians, for green energy activists, and for suppliers of VAR electric power technology and services, it’s all a win-win situation. Why wouldn’t they go after those opportunities?
The thing is Beta, the incumbent federal government in Australia is conservative, at least it’s supposed to be. We thought we were voting in a party that had our best interests at heart. Turns out that free speech is none existent now so the government don’t even know what we want, and the ‘gatekeepers’ seem to follow the green mantra so correspondence is not being passed on to Members of Parliament. The federal government subsidises renewables in a push to meet the Paris agreement (idiots).
The Minister for Environment in the State of NSW is also meant to be a conservative member, well, he may as well be deep green. He has nominated three zones in country NSW to be Renewable Energy Zones. These zones are state significant and are for the ‘greater good’ of the people. The people living in these zones have no say whatsoever and are not compensated for loss of property values, or jobs but you see, it’s for the greater good.
Our town is part of one of these Renewable Energy Zones, a beautiful historic town, population 2,700. It is a town from the gold rush era in the 1870’s from the time of bush rangers such as Ned Kelly and the famous poet Henry Lawson. The town is well preserved and has four museums of significance. It doesn’t have any traffic lights or even roundabouts. It doesn’t have any of the takeaway franchises or neon lights, all of this makes it feel like a step back in time and very authentic. This town has many events during the year, the Henry Lawson Festival is one of three major events held here each year and all are well supported. There is an international Clay festival held here every two years with master potters coming from all over the world, the town swells by 600 to 700 extra people during that week. We had the Welsh Choir singing in our little country opera house this year, sadly it was for one night only and it was a sellout.
I think you get the picture, the thing is that the reason they want to put the renewables in town’s such as ours, apart from the sunshine, is that they are also coal mining towns. There are substations and grids in place. Of course the grids will need to be massively upgraded. The thing is, we are used to the mines, they are not in our faces and they provide many of the jobs for the people in our towns.
They have already put in a 300 hectare solar plant four kilometers from town. There is an additional 800 hectares of solar panels in the pipeline right next to that and we found out that 1,000 hectare solar plant has been proposed seven kilometers north of here. More than 2,000 hectares of solar panels around our little town. Who knows what else they have planned.
They try to talk it up with promises of jobs, what a joke. We import all of our wind and solar from China, so no jobs there. The developers are from overseas and we seem to be quite happy to sell off our land to overseas concerns. There are few jobs to be had here in Australia, we, like the rest of the world don’t have recycling of renewables. Apart from the specialist jobs like electricians and such most of it is in in construction, and that is only short term. On completion there are a handful of full time employees. They couldn’t find 150 out of work laborers when they built our 300 hectares solar plant, nearly all of that type of labor was provided by backpackers.
When these plants are completed they are sold to overseas concerns. We have a large coal fire power plant a few hundred kilometers from us that is due to be decommissioned in a couple of years. They are ramping up the renewables to compensate for this. Once they shut down the plant and the mines of course there will be no more jobs. The history of Australia will die along with our towns. The ghost town in Michael Moore’s movie will be replicated in many town’s like ours right across central NSW.
The only people who make any money out of all this is the developers and the landowners who sell out their communities. Government subsidies cover this.
Voting is compulsory in Australia, the thing is you don’t often get who you think you are voting for.
Well, megs. Apart from immigration, thank you for explaining why Americans voted Trump to be auS president. He agrees with you. Will Oz ever find its own outraged voice?
Of course there is another explanation. It’s psychological. Moore is objective enough to draw the conclusion from his observations that the whole green edifice is a crock. But he is psychologically incapable of making the inference that therefore the green movement is actually the bad guys. How are you able to not reach that conclusion? By positing the idea that green has been been seduced by the devil, those nasty corporate capitalists. If only the sinners repent everything will be fine. But of course it would not because green’s badness is an essential aspect of the affliction it is.
The fallacy of the left is the constant belief in utopia. They never studied. Utopia does not exist. Can’t. Sorry to break it to you. Oh, and left alone, people ruling other people become assholes. If you created Utopia these people would destroy it.
Utopia literally means “nowhere”:
from Greek ou “not” + topos “place”
sorry to ruin your fantasy
should we be better stewards of the earth? of course. But making the earth somehow “perfect” is impossible. It just is.
Douglas
I would say that the defining characteristic of liberals/progressives is that they are never happy with the status quo, and think that they have the wisdom to improve upon everything. It is a hubris born of a false sense of their intelligence and entitlement. However, I’m reminded of the old saying that “When the gods wish to punish us, they grant us our wishes.” It seems that most on the left are unacquainted with that.
Michael Moore, Gibbs, and the guy who’s name begins with a Z answer some of their critics in a new The Hill Rising video on YouTube. Moore starts out by stating that the essential problem is that “The problem is that under the current system we are always asking for Moore, Moore, Moore” I couldn’t agree Moore. Moore is a serious problem and asking for Moore of him is self-destructive. Really the very best admission by a public figure that he’s the problem I’ve every heard.
The film makes some very good points. There is no green new deal. My fear is that their point is the only solution is to hurry up and extinct people.
It is a slow film. It needs to be watched at double speed.
Any real student of energy and the needs of humans knows that there is no viable green new deal. Natgas is a great energy source. We should do more in nuclear research. There are solutions. Hydro screws up rivers. Wind and solar cannot scale beyond the most basic of energy needs.
Loved when they all got a big yuck out of saying Al Gore was a “Profit”.
There are three camps in the climate debate:
One: The problem does not exist, no solution needed.
Two: We have a huge problem, and we hav a solution.
Three: we have a huge problem, and we have no solution to it.
Michael Moore is in camp three.
Jan there is camp 4: Renewable energy, bought about to save the world from a non existent problem, has and continues to create massive problems by it’s own existence and needs to be stopped urgently.
Of course that won’t happen, follow the money.
Correct if you add that Michael Moore believes that the only solution is population control.
Does anyone here know if Ivanpah – shown in his film is still trying to generate electricity with the 3 towers?
Looking on Google Earth, it looks like all three areas and it’s 350,000 mirrors are being dismantled and is a solar dead zone as states in the Michael Moore film.
Does anyone know? – if you search on Google there is nowhere where it states that it is being dismantled. In fact all the search results I have seen show that it is 100% operating – LOL.
Look on google earth and zoom in all three are disheveled to say the least. There is some guy on another thread who says that it is still working and that the towers are still lit up – anyone know?
– JPP
The plant looks good on Google Earth with a 2020 image.
Geepers! Did you zoom in? Many mirrors are missing and pointing in a lot of other directions other than the towers. (in all three areas).
I think I have a way to post some pics from screen shots that I took of Ivanpah.
– JPP
https://youtu.be/NocoxyMuXg8?t=27
Upsetting the hard left is not that hard. Simply applying a semblance of logic and reason to an emotional argument will suffice. All hard left arguments boil down to emotion; forestry causes extinctions, capitalism enslaves and carbon dioxide cooks.
Do not think. Just feel.
The Distributor pulled the film ? Didn’t know it had a Distributor, and surely the horse had left the barn before any such had been appointed.
The whole carbon credit cap and trade scam would probably supply enough material on it’s own for yet another Michael Moore documentary.
There are also some funny videos on YouTube of dogs chasing their own tail.
Why have you not linked to the full Planet Of The Humans documentary which is available for free on YouTube? Watch the documentary yourself and draw your own conclusions instead of listening to other peoples descriptions.
REX MURPHY: MICHAEL MOORE, EXILED, IS A NON-PROGRESSIVE NOW
By far the most hilarious aspect of Moore’s departure from the velvet sofa of approved thought comes from his erstwhile worshippers
REX MURPHY
May 4, 2020
2:54 PM EDT
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-michael-moore-exiled-is-a-non-progressive-now
[excerpt]
By far the most hilarious aspect of Moore’s departure from the velvet sofa of approved thought comes from his erstwhile worshippers. The anathemas ring out from every crevice. He is viewed now by one and all of them as a miscreant, a turncoat, a toy of the establishment and a “danger to the planet.” Even harsher terms have been deployed. From icon to wretch at the turn of a sprocket.
Elizabeth May, our own queen of green, is fraught and distressed. She sees the documentary as “dangerous.” Bill McKibben of 350.org, weeps and wails at length in Rolling Stone over Moore’s defection from climate truthery. The Sanhedrin of the global warming establishment are of one mood. Kill the movie. Ostracize their erstwhile hero. He is now a “non” progressive. There are famous people who would pay to shake his hand a couple of months ago who would now avoid a parking lot he once walked by.
Can these things be? That Michael Moore, truth teller of yesteryear, archangel of leftist correctness, knight of the anti-corporate establishment, honoured presence at Democratic conventions, fan and supporter of Bernie Sanders, devastator of George (chimpanzee) Bush, and podcaster with guest Naomi Klein, is now to this same crowd, persona non grata, outcast and deceiver.
It appears so.
As to the film itself, I see no reason to believe it is better or worse than any other he has done. The reaction to it, however, has been — let me summon the eloquence of the MasterCard commercial — priceless.