By Charles Rotter and Anthony Watts
From Charles:
It was ten years ago today that I personally first viewed the instructions to download the Climategate files from the anonymous Russian server. That set in motion a series of events still affecting the outcome of worldwide energy and environmental policy today. The whitewashers at the BBC, The Guardian, and elsewhere have started putting up their officially sanctioned narrative version, amounting to little more than nothing to see hear move along.
I wrote up my contemporaneous version of events here.
Anyone who wants to rebut claims of exoneration can use this Ross McKitrick paper for reference.
A couple of days ago we reposted Judith Curry’s excellent 10 year anniversary write up.
There’s little I can say that Dr. Curry does not touch upon, except for the fact that it is gratifying to see ideas we help disseminate echoing back to us via both traditional and social media.
At the time of the event, Patrick Courrielche did one of the best jobs covering it in the media.
His original three part series can be found here (part 1), here (part 2), and here (part 3)
Patrick also published an interview with Anthony Watts, Steve McIntyre, Steve Mosher, and myself earlier this year on his Redpilled America Podcast. It is excellent and worth a listen.
Signed, Charles Rotter
From Anthony:
Coincidentally, 10 years ago today is not only the day that “Mr. FOI” released the files, it was (and is) WUWT’s birthday. On November 17th, 2006, I wrote my first post.
In November 2009, while Charles was holding the fort at WUWT and examining the emails left by “Mr FOI”, I was in Brussels at a climate skeptic conference being put on by Hans Labohm.
I remember the first message I got from him: “You need to look at this!“. Then reading the emails, wide-eyed, and realizing I was about to go through security at the EU, I wondered about the timing….and told Charles that under no circumstances would we write anything about it or release it until I was back on U.S. soil. Then, after clearing customs at Dulles two days later, I sat down in the airport, and wrote the story, breaking the news on the 19th. I was literally the last person on the plane back to Sacramento, and in those days, WiFi on planes didn’t exist. So I was faced with over six hours of unknowing. Thoughts of “what have I done?” raced through my mind. See the “Red Pilled America” audio interview above for my personal recollections.
Luckily, James Delingpole picked up the story for his column, and it’s entry into the British newspaper The Telegraph started the chain reaction that made the story grow, becoming the “worst scientific scandal of our generation“.
Today, I look back, especially at the latest BBC “whitewash” of the issue, and I shake my head. These people, journos and climate scientists alike – have learned absolutely nothing. This piece, by Tony Thomas in Quadrant, tells the story.
Today, anyone questioning this colossal enterprise is told to “respect the science”. Based on the Climategate emails released in 2009, 2013 and 2015, I’d rather respect the Mafia, who at least don’t claim to be saving the planet. For example, today we’re told that warming of 2degC above pre-industrial level is some sort of a tipping point of doom. Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit, emailed on September 6, 2007, that the supposed 2-degree limit was “plucked out of thin air”, a throwaway line in an early 1990s paper from the catastrophists at the Potsdam Climate Impacts Institute.
Mr. Thomas reminded me of this particularly nasty email excerpt about Steve McIntyre (who used his superior statistical skills to refute Mann’s work), Mann wrote, in August 2007,
I have been talking [with] folks in the States about finding an investigative journalist to investigate and expose [him].
But while proponents of “the cause” (most notably the execrable Michael E. Mann in a recent op-ed for Newsweek) pat themselves on the back comforting each other with “there’s nothing to see here”, there are reasons to rejoice about Climategate ten years later.
Climategate brought chaos to Copenhagen aka COP15 – critically wounding the prospects of cap-and-trade legislation in the process. It helped the world dodge the climate mania bullet for 5 years, until the Paris accord in 2015.
Donald Trump became aware of the Climategate story, years before he became President, and I have to think (since he has mentioned it) that it affected his opinion.
Added:
“[Climate change is] a very complex subject. I’m not sure anybody is ever going to really know…. they say they have science on one side but then they also have those horrible emails that were sent between the [Climategate] scientists…. Terrible. Where they got caught, you know, so you see that and you say, what’s this all about. I absolutely have an open mind.”
– President-elect Donald Trump, “Donald Trump’s New York Times Interview: Full Transcript,”
And as we know, as President, he fulfilled his campaign promises and pulled the USA out of the Paris Climate Accord, and gutted the draconian EPA.
For that, I am proud to have had a part, along with the Heartland Institute, whose advice and support gave Trump even more ammunition to pull off the withdrawal from the Paris accord.
While 10 years have made climate science and its supporters even more shrill and less believable than ever, it is a testament to everyone who has been involved in WUWT that we are still running and still the “go to” website on climate. Many others, like Grant Foster’s laughably named “Open Mind” have fallen into near invisibility. Think that’s low? Ken Rice, aka “And then there’s physics” is so far off the radar, he’s not even a blip. Some have simply been delegated to the dustbin of history, such as Joe Romm’s “Climate Progress” labeled the “indispensible blog” for climate alarmism, now defunct. I count these losers lack of influence as a victory too.
But, the best is yet to come. After taking a year in the backseat to recharge and rebuild (thank you Charles) big things are about to happen. While Hotwhopperish wannabees still screech over scraps of influence, WUWT is just getting warmed up.
Soon, I’ll make the announcement, and you’ll see why WUWT is not only “still the one” but still growing. The next ten years will bring even more. Stay tuned, it’s going to be fun, but more importantly, it’s going to be influential.
With sincerest thanks to all who have lent their expertise, support, and readership on this wild ride, I remain, dedicated as ever. I’ll let Josh have the last word. – Anthony Watts
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Many thanks to Anthony and Charles and all who contribute to the broad base that is WUWT. This site represents one of the few opportunities for people to find unbiased data. I look forward to its continued success and growth of influence.
The world is getting colder in both senses of the word. We are so close to totalitarianism becoming an accepted instrument used to enforce energy control. It is frightening.
During the Melbourne Green New Deal demonstrations, back in March this year over the F1 week, I was shocked and spooked, hearing the children and seeing them crowd round the parliament buildings with their parents and teachers shouting through loud hailers. The distorted acoustics making their chant of “Reach Higher, Reach Higher” truly sinister. It sounded and looked like a scene from the 1930s Germany. The raising of the arms, as the chant went out did nothing but cement that image.
It was a light bulb moment for me, the hairs on the back of my neck raised at what was going on. We have to stop these destroyers of civilisation. I am so grateful WUWT is here to provide real science and real balance in these ever more challenging left wing times.
No one imagined Orwell’s fiction would become real. It has taken just fifty years after he wrote 1984 for “The long march through the institutions” the policy advanced by Marxists out of the Frankfurt School to become tangible.
The BBC has become the ministry of (un)truth…..
This is clearly the place for a link to Bulldust’s famous founding ClimateGate comment of November 19, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Two thumbs way up!!
As the decades roll on, this climate nonsense traps politicians like insects in a spiders web. You can see their struggle; should I try to garner extra votes with climate waffle, or should I out myself as a non believer?
Boris Johnson is one that is currently caught, struggling in the web, other politicians from the centre right that should display more courage, including our own Scott Morrison are too. Only Donald Trump had the cojones to call this nonsense out and ride out the politics.
Congratulations, Anthony and the team, your site is a steadfast voice of reason in this truly epic battle of wills.
Glad to see this piece 🙂 It was just last week I was thinking it must be around the ten year anniversary of ClimateGate. Ahh the good ole days when it was still called Global Warming…
[Catastrophic] [Anthropogenic] Global Warming. The polling has changed. The [social] consensus has adjusted.
In my not-so-humble opinion, …gates are way overused and have fallen into to category shared by “very unique.”
Climategate is one of the exceptions, thank you for adding it to the lexicon.
When I first heard about climategate, the public release of climate scientists emails, I thought to myself that I wouldn’t be interested in reading other peoples personal email.
My 10th anniversary of discovering climate science and WUWT isn’t until another 3 months from now.
As a software engineer and computer scientist, I have a really big project I’ve been working on dedicated to WUWT, but it’s a lot of work and has required a lot of study, so will have to wait till the 11th anniversary where we all can turn things up to eleven.
Then you really really need to read the “Harry Read Me” file that was included with the emails. Where the programmer adds comments while trying to understand and update climate programs.
Many of the emails, indeed the entire email chains are more akin to reading used tissues and toilet paper; not personal emails. I have never before or since seen such unprofessional messages/language in written form.
But then, I worked in government where every logon reminded us that are messages were not private
and could be publicized.
Some of the climategate emails correlate well to some of today’s internet’s rankest trolls.
I’ve worked in Government for a bit over 30 years now.
Back when “email” when introduced where I work, it was looked upon as sort a cross between a letter and a phone call. In other words, private even if the letter was sent to my work or I made the call from work.
(Well, if I was making long distance calls or calling 900 numbers that would eventually be noticed and tracked down.)
We were knowledgeable in our fields but, unless we knew something about this new stuff called “networks” and “email”, we didn’t know a record was being kept and saved. “Wire tapping” required a court order for phone calls BEFORE the recordings took place. We didn’t know emails over an organisation’s systems were legally different.
So the Climategater’s were subject to a legal FOIA request.
They tried to “hide the decline” in climate science.
But someone with a conscience (that is, “for knowledge”) had access to some of what they tried to hide and shed the light of day on what he/she could.
(Mann is still hiding his UVa stuff.)
Many honest and ethical (and real) scientist started to reevaluate what had passed peer review regarding, as it was called then, CAGW.
So here we are. Gore’s Ozone Hole wasn’t big enough so political science has seized on CAGW (and given it many name changes as natural reality changed) with the aim to justify loss of freedoms and the centralizing of authority.
(Thank you “Mr. FOIA” and WUWT and the others that haven’t taken “a knee to Baal”, so to speak.)
It’s interesting to consider the evolution of the climate terminology used as each scare failed to materialize. It’s gone from global warming, to climate change, to global heating, to climate emergency, to extinction crisis. The latter one should last for a while, because it provides a potpourri of possibilities that are impossible to argue against (you can’t prove a negative).
Hollywood makes a fortune from feeding our fascination with mega-disasters, as do some alarmists. I suspect this exaggerated fear is a survival mechanism that was coded into us in our cave-dwelling days. As we huddled in our caves at night our minds would turn to the horrors that lay in wait if we were foolish enough to venture out into the dark. “Quick, everyone, run and huddle in your caves. There’s a TIPPING POINT on the loose!” And it’s why the terminology used is always so menacing. For example, we are told that the missing heat is hiding in the deep oceans – not oceans but DEEP oceans. How menacing. Isn’t that where Godzilla lives! I’m frightened!
BC
Jordan Peterson has an interesting take on the issue of fear. His view is that our fear response is a process that is so fundamental to our survival as living beings that it predates conscious thought by orders of magnitude of evolutionary time. (He also believes that pain is the only reality we can trust). Consequently we respond to fear far faster and with less rational thought than any other emotion. That is why the study by the Victorian journalist Charles Mackay “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” is also so relevant as a guiding explanation to this utter complete and total nonsense.
Thanks for your reply.
The e-book is available here for either nothing or the cost of a small donation:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518
Yes, we have our fear systems. We also have systems for rational thought and creative thought.
It is easy to appeal to fear for the Communists and the Pointy-Headed Intellectuals because they believe we are simply animals, having evolved from monkeys; they do not believe we are made in the image of God, with intellect and creativity, and the capacity for authentic love.
Yet in all things we are tasked to ride above our animal nature and rely upon reason, creativity, and love to survive, and thrive.
You might keep yourself alive by depending on fear. Collectively, we will not keep all of us alive by fear but by reason, creativity, and love.
And the Kraken lives in the deep ocean too.
The Kraken Wakes by John Wyndham 1953
It took me awhile to realise what the word “wakes” meant. Awakes would have been a better title 🙂
I am in awe of people like Anthony and Charles who not only doggedly keep up the fight but keep improving their strategy to combat the opposition even when groupthink in that opposition seems to be gaining ground. Unfortunately I fear that the alarmist, truly nonsensical consensus is now very close to reaching critical mass largely due to Greta. Not only has climatemania now become embedded in parents and grandparents but kids too. It has effectively acquired a muscle memory and herd mentality amongst most all and sundry. The multi-layered confection that has been built around this nonsense is now embedded in the subconscious of Europe and America. To deprogramme someone who has become indoctrinated they must first want to be deprogrammed. It used to be maybe a million who were brainwashed. Its now hundreds of millions. I have tried to get climate conversations going with ostensibly neutral adults. Within a minute they invariably trot out the tried and tested platitudes – Artic, polar bears, flooding etc.
Happy Birthday and mega thanks.
I have been a daily visitor since the Surface Station Survey days and can attest that there is nothing like WUWT. Anthony et.al. have created the pre-eminent voice for real science on the Web, and not just climate science. Numerous disciplines have been represented and discussed as well as the philosophy of science itself.
“Influence” is a difficult thing to measure –Alexa certainly doesn’t — but I can only imagine how lost this world would be without WUWT. We teeter on the precipice as it is; WUWT is a handhold we grasp to save our rationality, our society, and even our lives.
WUWT is more than monastery where tracts of wisdom are copied and preserved while the Dark Ages rage outside. It is a vital participant in the very real contemporary struggle for knowledge and reason in a faltering world.
Kudos, Rev. Keep up the fight. I don’t know what we would do without you.
Congratulations Anthony. There will be a place in history for you and WUWT. I dropped by the tip jar. Cheers!
Thank you!
I posted the link to the WUWT post with Judith Curry’s essay on my FB timeline, and followed it up with notes about my views on Climategate vs Copenhagen’s CoP15. I’m rather pleased that a lot of it is redundant to the original post here. I guess I’m not losing my mind yet.
Ric Werme
Yesterday at 12:52 PM ·
[Introduction to Judith Curry’s essay.]
By far the most important event in the climate science/media/alarm/skeptic community since the release of the original Keeling curve was the unauthorized release/theft/hack of many Emails and other files from the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in the UK.
They provided confirmation that CRU and others were resisting data sharing with people (especially known skeptics) interested in reproducing work described in papers and also actively suppressed the publication of papers with claims that went counter to their research. (Yes, some papers from both sides are questionable. A lot of people have lost much of their faith in the peer review process.)
The fallout from Climategate is extensive and ranges from a hardening of some people’s stands, to a huge restructuring of the “pecking order” of climate blogs and their readers, to Saudi Arabia possibly increasing their opposition to some of the reports and protocols at the Copenhagen CoP15 UN event.
This post is long and complicated, there are even pieces I have trouble recalling well. It’s really written for people who were involved when Climategate broke, but there’s a lot that should interest anyone or open avenues to explore.
[Further comments on CoP15]
Ric Werme CoP15 was supposed to finish with leaders from several countries signing a historic agreement to aggressively cut back on CO2 emissions. However, all they came up with was a rather lame, mostly forgotten promise to do better.
Barak Obama was one of the leaders there, he had to return home a day early to beat a blizzard that was about to paralyze the eastern seaboard, so he wasn’t around for the bitter end. I’d love to know what Obama was thinking as Air Force One landed at Andrews AFB while it still could.
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One thing I noticed skimming https://enb.iisd.org/vol12/enb12459e.html was this quote:
Rajendra Pachauri, Chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), emphasized that for temperature increase to be limited to between 2.0-2.4°C, global emissions must peak no later than 2015.
Another prediction for future entertainment. Pachauri is no longer with the IPCC, forced out in part by sexual misconduct charges that were later to be upheld in Indian court.
Reply to Julian Flood,
The 1940-50 decade is among the most troublesome of the Australian temperature data, even today. Long before Climategate broke, people like Warwick Hughes an I were questioning officials here and especially Phil Jones at CRU, seeking reasons to justify their huge adjustments. No satisfactory answer was reveived about anything we asked. It was all duck and weave, then repeat with extra obfuscation.
A correct record in the 1940 s could have a significance on warming estimates, reducing 0.8 deg C estimates for the century, to about 0.5 deg C.
The next most troublesome is around 1970-6 or so, the Great Pacific Climate Shift. Our BOM reports that they can see up to 0.15 degrees C of warming that could be from metrification of the records or from the Shift, so they just leave it there as more warming.
This is not good science. Geoff S
I managed to find the original comment that started Climategate:
https://climateaudit.org/2009/11/16/luckman-at-the-canadian-society-for-petroleum-geologists/#comment-201848
Those were the days!
I think they have actually learned something. They learned to target the children and youth because unindoctrinated thinking adults aren’t buying what they’re selling.
Thanks again, Anthony. You changed the way I think, not only about climate change but about a lot of other things as well – such as politicians and the whole ‘woke’ PC thing. Keep up the good work. I look forward to being able to consulter WUWT in the future. From what you say it sounds as if it will be exciting!
Climate Gate was what first opened my eyes to the possibility that this was all BS. I said something about the news on my personal blog and my liberal friends got angry with me for even listening to it for a minute and went into long spiels about how wrong it was and how it was anti scientific and how I shouldn’t even listen. I should mention here not a single one of them was a science major in any way themselves, but it struck me that they were desperate I not even question, and that sort of behavior always bothers me. I very quietly began to inquire further. And here I am now.
A bit Off-Topic: It’s just occurred to me (more forcefully than in the past, anyway) that what’s been keeping the Climate Action Bandwagon in business so long has been the claim that renewables are no more costly than the alternatives and/or that their costs are falling.
But, that isn’t the case, when the indirect and hidden costs are accounted for. Electricity costs will rise within the next three to five years as newly alarmed jurisdictions shift toward renewables. This will create voter and demonstrator pushback. (As in Brazil, although as a result of different green austerity measures.)
Another Bandwagon-booster has been the belief that all the world in on-board with this crusade. It’s true that there are renewables being installed all over the world, especially in India. But the bulk of the developing world’s energy investment isn’t going into renewables. This should become evident as the Keeling curve of CO2 in the atmosphere continues its steady or accelerating rise.
A third alarmist-booster is the belief that “we” can reduce the concentration of C02 in the atmosphere, or at least decelerate its accumulation, by moving to renewables. But the rest of the world—the developing world—isn’t moving, and isn’t going to move, to renewables, because they’re too expensive and/or impractical.
The mass of the public that has been currently swayed into endorsing “climate action” will become disillusioned with it once it becomes clear that it is just a costly exercise in futility and inconvenience. Time is on our side. Economics bats last. It will be much easier to disprove alarmist claims about the economics and global appeal of renewables than about the intricacies of climatology—and, that done, climate-related alarmist claims will come to be viewed with suspicion as well.
like many others it was Booker and Delingpole that got me here
in 2009
here everyday;-( and thousands of links sent on
bless you Both Anthony and Charles,( and all the contributors and other commenters,) for the dedication work and sanity support
much appreciated and bless you all
Anthony
“amounting to little more than nothing to see
hearhere, move along.”Wow – sad to look back and see how solidly the media play along. Play along with what?
I have been here a long time pointing out that Marxism is behind the manmade global warming push. I know I was a reader and commenter before ClimateGate, and was stunned when ClimateGate broke. I may have started reading here in 2007.
The idea that Marxists were behind this climate stuff was not being bandied about. Being a Democrat for decades, I was puzzled about how my party had changed over time, and how “progressives” or “liberals” had realy jumped the shark on so many topics. As I puzzled over these things, the explanation came into focus: the enemy of Marxists is our Prevailing Society, and they have been steadily at work undermining anything and everything that is the glue and structure of society. Commerce, gender, civility, limited government, Christianity, “education,” etc.
Back then, no Liberal was making that point. The well-intentioned oblivious among us were happy pointing out how terrible conservatives are. That is part of the game – form a black and white view of the world and demonize the opponent, and make people afraid to be painted with that brush – and they will never deeply examine what the “white” side, the supposed “good guys” are saying. So, they can claim we need massive government control over everything to save ourselves from imminent disaster at the hands of conservatives and capitalists. What a con job.
I cam to WUWT by an interesting route. I had a child, and it was time for the first vaccination rounds. I did not believe in the idea that vaccines cause autism. But, when you are getting ready to take your kid to get the shots, and there is this idea that you might be causing autism in your darling child that means so much to you, and has so much promise, it is very scary. very scary.
So, I started pulling up research studies. I pretty quickly was convinced that there was no “there” there, and went ahead and vaccinated my child. We have had no autism.
Having investigated and solved the issue, to my own satisfaction, I thought, “what if I dug up some info on this global warming question, and examined that the same way? Could I answer that to my satisfaction?”
I put in a few search terms and began reading studies. About the third study I stumbled across pretty much convinced me that we were not on a runaway tipping point of natural disaster calamity due to fossil fuels. I cannot recall that study, but one thing it showed was temps coming out of Little Ice Age. Oh, we are on a big trend going back a few hundred years.
Learning that global temp was calculated based on temp stations across the globe, I stumbled upon the surfacestations project. I was stunned, and read a bunch more.
I became convinced that there certainly was lots of room for skepticism. From surfacestations, I became a WUWT reader.
Seeing coordinated idealogical forces behind the manmade global warming scam helped me see the coordinated anti-American, anti-capitalism, anti-freedom, anti-citizen power presence of the Marxists elsewhere in society.
Stunning. I grew up as a liberal, and part of that was throwing out the “red-baiting” claim any time someone said there was a Communist behind every tree. Sadly, it looks like this is true. McKibbens, Oreski, et al., are frank Communists first, and environmental activism is merely their avenue to work toward the Bloody Red Revolution when the workers of the world will throw off the shackles of Capitalism and we will all become both the owners and operators of the means of production, and there will be no more hunger, racism, sexual harassment, or unpleasant weather anywhere.
And, I figured out that there is a weird joint venture between the Reds and the Pointy-Headed Intellectuals, like Mann, Holdren, et al. They aspire to be the philosopher kings of Plato’s Republic. Many do not realize they are merely providing ammunition to the Reds to throw at our prevailing society, with our evil SUVs and plastic straws, but some do believe the Marxist philosophy.
You cannot just beat these people on the “science;” it is a power trip and they are not afraid of breaking any rules, since Bloody Revolution is part of their political philosophy.
Anthony Watts and others, please keep up the good work. I hate to be so dramatic, but if you accept the ideas that: 1. there is a marriage of convenience convergence of wanna-be philosopher kings and Reds, and 2. Reds have been on a stealth campaign for 100 years to overturn our Judeo-Christian Capitalist Nukelar Family society, then a lot is at stake.
A careful suppression of all dissenting voices is a hallmark of all dictatorships, be it Mussolini, the Third Reich, North Korea, or the USSR. We are heading there, I hope it is not too late.
“As I puzzled over these things, the explanation came into focus: the enemy of Marxists is our Prevailing Society, and they have been steadily at work undermining anything and everything that is the glue and structure of society. Commerce, gender, civility, limited government, Christianity, “education,” etc.”
That’s exactly right, and they have seized on the human-caused climate change issue as their means of gaining control of society.
I came upon WUWT from Steve Milloy’s JunkScience.com
That was so waaaaay back that I don’t even remember when. But I do remember the Climategate coverage here.
I don’t know how many more “thanks” we can say but it will never be enough so thank you again to Anthony, Charles, et al for keeping this site going strong for so many years.
Wanted to see that BBC 0 years climate gate docu: “BBC iPlayer only works in the UK. Sorry, it’s due to rights issues.” Also can’t download it.
How similar to “open” climate science with its thousands of articles pay walled.
Jokers, paid by public money.
I’ve just been watching the BBC program and was interested to notice that the only email they worked on was the ‘hide the decline’ one for which the Hockey Team have long since perfected an answer. There was one other mentioned briefly but nothing about those which discuss fixing IPCC working groups, getting journalists sacked and other shady tactics which were, for me, the most enlightening and which did not fit with the picture of the CRU scientists as abused innocents. That was dishonest even by BBC standards.
An article titled: “Baloney Detection Kit,” based on advice from Carl Sagan just passed by.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan-s-rules-for-bullshit-busting-and-critical-thinking
I’m sure Sagan would be in the “Emergency” camp up to his eyeballs, were he still alive. But his guidelines for detecting frauds, fakes, cons and deceivers are very helpful.
Apply his step-by-step tests to the Climate Mafia fakers, and alarm bells sound at every single step.
I’ve been reading WUWT for 9 of the 10 years. Although I rarely post comments, it’s always enlightening to read not just the posts, but the comment sections, as well. Congrats on 10 years and I’m excited for the next 10 to come.