Who’s the hypocrite now?

From ScienceDirect

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https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jenvp.2018.03.001

Highlights

  • We conducted a one-year longitudinal study of 600 Americans’ climate beliefs.
  • Cluster analyses found three distinct groups based on climate belief trajectories.
  • Climate change believers were most likely to endorse federal climate policies.
  • Climate change skeptics were most likely to report pro-environmental behavior.

Abstract

  • We conducted a one-year longitudinal study in which 600 American adults regularly reported their climate change beliefs, pro-environmental behavior, and other climate-change related measures. Using latent class analyses, we uncovered three clusters of Americans with distinct climate belief trajectories: (1) the “Skeptical,” who believed least in climate change; (2) the “Cautiously Worried,” who had moderate beliefs in climate change; and (3) the “Highly Concerned,” who had the strongest beliefs and concern about climate change. Cluster membership predicted different outcomes: the “Highly Concerned” were most supportive of government climate policies, but least likely to report individual-level actions, whereas the “Skeptical” opposed policy solutions but were most likely to report engaging in individual-level pro-environmental behaviors. Implications for theory and practice are discussed.

[Emphasis mine. ~ctm]

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Craig from Oz
October 27, 2019 7:29 pm

Amusing. I haven’t bothered to dig deep into the source paper but wonder what the authors were assuming they would discover when they set out.

Belief in Big Government is in part a refusal to accept responsibility – and why should you, the government will rescue me – and a lack of self awareness in that the problem is not just ‘other people’.

Leftist mind set is usually along the lines of ‘Everything would be better if only I was in charge’. It is the assumption that life is not ‘better’ (whatever that means) because selfish people are doing ‘Wrong’. Since these Wrong people wont fix themselves, they must be made to correct. There must be rules. Tough but fair laws must be created and enforced or these other people will never fall in line.

The Rightist mind set is more ‘leave me alone and let me do my own thing’. Anarchy, paradoxically, is from the Right. It is the complete freedom to do absolutely ANYTHING the person sees fit. Oppression comes from the Left. You can’t do anything, that would be unfair, hence we must have Tough but Fair Laws.

Conservatives do not live in anarchy, because too much personal freedom rules out the advantages of win/win situations and deals made with others, acts that require a degree of mutual trust. The trust is developed directly between the parties involved. Going to the effort of getting a third party – aka the Government – to regulate the trust is usually simply a waste of time or openly counter productive. Tasks are handled by the people involved and, since it usually affects them directly, the people involved usually are willing to do the ethical and moral ‘right thing’ to make their immediate surroundings a better place.

Selfish? Possibly. But if you are doing ‘The Right Thing’ for the benefit of you and your loved ones, you are still, technically, doing ‘The Right Thing’. And is that bad?

TRM
October 27, 2019 7:51 pm

“regularly reported their climate change beliefs” – WTF does “belief” have to do with science? NOTHING, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.

Anytime anyone asks me if I “believe in climate change” I just ask them “I thought this was supposed to be science?”. Their response is usually “It is science” and my reply ends the conversation “So where in the scientific method does it say believe?”

Not only does the scientific method not accept “belief”, it also doesn’t accept “consensus” (97% blad da freaking blah).

Hugs
Reply to  TRM
October 28, 2019 12:35 am

It is science on beliefs.

What people believe is a scientifically interesting question.

The result in here is very interesting, since it confirms a long-held suspicion. It is also funny, as it turns out there is a lot of hypocrisy around.

David Hartley
October 28, 2019 1:37 am

A little off topic but not by much.

My little bit as I can’t match the expertise around this and other blogs is to hit the buggers round the forums and try to distill into plainer language what I find to challange the $tree fiddy gang and there endless churning out of graphs and conclusions they obviously don’t understand, they just swamp people with endless propaganda till it wears people down. Another well known evangelists trick.

I’ve a doozy on the go at the moment. Apparently all the Globull takes part at 200-300ppm and above that any additional CO2 does not add much at all (I know, I know), which I believe a person not too far from this blog has already pointed out to them. The other day I caught a reference to the fact that higher up the CO2 simply allows any radiated heat to pass through, acting virtually ‘inert’. Can anyone point me in the right direction as I only caught it in passing.

He’s found a solution anyway bless his little heart, we just need to find this rogue 300 and all our problems are solved 🙂

tom0mason
October 28, 2019 2:37 am

I always lie to pollsters.
In this world of utter political stupidity it’s the best fun knowing I can make a difference (NOT).

yarpos
October 28, 2019 2:54 am

aligns with my wifes often asked question “but what are they actually doing?”

Angela
October 28, 2019 3:11 am

Totally unsurprised. This non believer is the one who walks 5 miles for a coffee and prefers to take a train and only drives about 50-100 miles a week. OTOH the rabid Climate Disasterists are the ones who fly to New Caledonia to sit and recite poems about climate change (true!) or hook up their small car behind their Winnebago to drive across Australia East to West and back again. The more the rabidity, the less walking the talk are they prepared to do!

John Endicott
October 28, 2019 5:02 am

Virtual signalers don’t practice what they preach? I’m shocked! As shocked as Captain Renault was to find that there was gambling going on in Rick’s Cafe.

Steve Oregon
October 28, 2019 6:32 am

We know best. Just ask us.
So we’re the boss of you.

John Endicott
Reply to  Steve Oregon
October 28, 2019 7:31 am

‘I’m the Boss — How About That?’ – AOC

astonerii
October 28, 2019 6:44 am

I hate mother Gaia with all my heart and thus I need to have government FORCE me to treat her right!

Mike S.
October 28, 2019 7:55 am

Heck, you don’t need a one-year longitudinal study to figure that out. Just look at the aftermath of any so-called “pro-environment” group’s rallies versus the aftermath of rallies populated primarily by the skeptical.

Lizzie
October 28, 2019 8:00 am

It makes sense to me, for the same reason that some people with more individual action beliefs give more to private charity and others with high government beliefs expect the government to take care of things through use of public resources.

tim maguire
October 28, 2019 8:31 am

That fits with earlier research showing that people who don’t believe humans are having an effect on climate have, on average, smaller carbon footprints than people who do.

John Bell
October 28, 2019 8:43 am

A comment from YT user after i accused the climate faithful of hypocrisy:

“That kind of change needs to happen from the top down. lt’s up to governments to develop alternatives to fossil fuels. Individuals have no such power, and no one expects people to stop driving or flying because the alternatives are not yet in place. ”

See the thinking? No need for the activists to do anything: change must come from the top, not form the little people at the bottom; give them green energy and they will use it.

John Endicott
Reply to  John Bell
October 28, 2019 9:33 am

It’s basically the same story as the celebrity elites gave when called out on their own hypocrisy:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/17/extinction-rebellion-admit-climate-hypocrisy-but-blame-the-system/
“We live high carbon lives and the industries that we are part of have huge carbon footprints. Like you – and everyone else – we are stuck in this fossil-fuel economy and without systemic change, our lifestyles will keep on causing climate and ecological harm”

No, you narcissistic “celebrities” are not “stuck” you choose to be “stuck” rather than live the lifestyle you wish to push onto everyone.

Stew Green
October 29, 2019 1:57 am

Shop-yourself-green is a major problem
As true believers keep buying green-gimmicks that make them “green”
eg the buy solar panels, cladding, an electric car to go with their existing car.
Since basically the manufacturing of anything involves cutting down trees and digging holes : those greens end up being less-green than the rest of us.