Jeffrey Sachs Goes Full Retard on President Trump and Climate Change

Guest “never go full retard” by David Middleton

Robert Downey Jr. got an Oscar nomination for inventing this phrase…

And Jeffrey Sachs clearly went there in this CNN article…

Trump’s failure to fight climate change is a crime against humanity
By Jeffrey Sachs

Updated 12:33 PM ET, Mon August 19, 2019

(CNN) President Donald Trump, Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, and others who oppose action to address human-induced climate change should be held accountable for climate crimes against humanity. They are the authors and agents of systematic policies that deny basic human rights to their own citizens and people around the world, including the rights to life, health, and property. These politicians have blood on their hands, and the death toll continues to rise.

Trump remains in willful denial of the thousands of deaths caused by his government’s inept, under-funded, and under-motivated response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico in 2017.

[…]

Two independent, detailed epidemiological studies, using different methodologies — one led by researchers at Harvard University and the other by researchers at George Washington University— have estimated that thousands died in the aftermath of Maria.

[…]

The first job of government is to protect the public. Real protection requires climate action on several fronts: educating the public about the growing dire risks of human-induced climate change; enacting legislation and regulations to ensure that families and businesses are kept out of harm’s way, for example by stopping construction in flood plains, and investing in sustainable infrastructure to counteract rising sea levels; anticipating the rising frequency of high-intensity climate-related disasters through science-based preparedness following through on properly scaled disaster-response during and after storm events; and most importantly for the future, spearheading the rapid transition to zero-carbon energy to prevent much greater calamities in the years ahead.

[…]

Recent scientific studies underscore the dire emergency ahead. Professor James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, has demonstrated that the Earth’s climate has moved above the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization. The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us.

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Darth Vader: “This is CNN.”

So… President Trump is responsible for hurricanes? And for the thousands of deaths caused by academic epidemiological models? The President of the United States does not have the constitutional power to prevent the government of Puerto Rico from being incompetent. Maybe you should try reading the United States Constitution.

Is that the best you can do?

What’s that? You want to babble about climate change some more?

James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, has demonstrated that the Earth’s climate has moved above the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization.

I generated these plots a year ago. Things haven’t changed much since June 2018.

Figure 1. Hansen et al., 1988 vs Fake Reality. GISTEMP barely touched Scenario B during the 2016-2017 El Niño. It’s spent most of the past 30 years tracking Scenario C, the un-discovery of fire.
Figure 2. Hansen et al., 1988 vs Real Reality, UAH 6.0.

Hansen’s epic fail is even more epic using the more climate-relevant 5-yr averages…

Figure 3. 5-yr average epic fail.

Of course Hansen’s estimated Altithermal (Holocene Climatic Optimum) and Eemian are about 0.5 °C too low.

Here’s what the “the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization” looks like at a common resolution:

Figure 5. Andy May’s Holocene climate reconstruction also indicates that the Little Ice Age featured the coldest climate of the Holocene Epoch. We are currently only slightly warmer than the coldest climate of the Holocene. Older is toward the right.

The red arrow, at 3,000 years BP, is approximately the end of the Holocene Climatic Optimum and the beginning of Neoglaciation.

Figure 6. 3,000 years ago, the Alps were relatively ice-free. Maximum glaciation occurred in the mid-1800’s. (Grossjean et al., 2007). Older is toward the left.

This was the reality before Warmunism:

Figure 7. Science News March 1, 1975

If the climate models are accurate (they aren’t), the warming that supposedly moved Earth’s temperature above the range “that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization”, has barely lifted it above “The Ice Age Cometh”…

Figure 8. Modified after IPCC AR4

The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us

Figure 9. Sea level reconstruction from tide gauge data (Jevrejeva et al., 2014). Note rock pick added for scale. Older is toward the left.
Figure 10. Global last 7,000 years, based on Siddall et al., 2003. The error bar for Siddall is ±12 meters.
Figure 11. 1.9 mm/yr since 1861 (Jevrejeva et al., 2014)

The key features of Jevrejeva et al, 2014 (J14) are a falling sea level near the end of Holocene neoglaciation phase and then a steady, secular rise of about 1.9 mm/yr since 1860 as the Earth warmed up from the Little Ice Age.

The steady rise from the Little Ice Age is punctuated by a multi-decadal quasi-periodic fluctuation (a cycle to a geologist)…

Figure 12.  J14 exhibits alternating periods of fast (~3 mm/yr) and slow (~1 mm/yr) of sea level rise.

If someone only looked at the data from the early 1990’s onward, they might be tempted to declare an acceleration in sea level rise. I don’t give a rat’s @$$ what Church & White wrote.

J14 is definitely an improvement relative to Jevrejeva et al., 2008 (J08); which failed to capture the falling sea level of the neoglaciation phase. However, we can use J08 to evaluate the risks of catastrophic sea level rise being upon us. If we apply an exponential function to J08 and extrapolate it to the end of this century, we get nearly 1 meter of sea level rise over the next 80 years.

Figure 13. Projected sea level rise through 2100 AD.

However, this would require sea level rise to accelerate to over 20 mm/yr, about twice the rate of the Holocene Transgression.

Figure 14. Sea level rise since the late Pleistocene from Tahitian corals, tide gauges and satellite altimetry.

Now that Marine Ice Cliff Instability has fallen flat on its face and given the total irrelevance of Meltwater Pulse 1a, there’s nothing short of an asteroid impact on the Antarctic Ice Sheet or massive volcanic eruption from below the ice sheet that could trigger this sort of sea level rise.

Besides, Jeffy… if the risks of catastrophic sea level rise were upon us, I seriously doubt that your favorite president would have bought a $15 million beachfront mansion.

Note

I initially starred out the “r” word for two reasons:

  1. In the unlikely event that Dr. Sachs reads this, he might pull a Bill McKibben.
  2. I didn’t want to hear any pompous preaching about the inappropriateness of the word in a WUWT post. It isn’t unprecedented.

But, there really isn’t a more appropriate word.

References

Bard, E., B. Hamelin, M. Arnold, L. Montaggioni, G. Cabioch, G. Faure & F. Rougerie. “Deglacial sea-level record from Tahiti corals and the timing of global meltwater discharge”. Nature 382, 241 – 244 (18 July 1996); doi:10.1038/382241a0

Brock, J.C.,  M. Palaseanu-Lovejoy, C.W. Wright, & A. Nayegandhi. (2008). “Patch-reef morphology as a proxy for Holocene sea-level variability, Northern Florida Keys, USA”. Coral Reefs. 27. 555-568. 10.1007/s00338-008-0370-y. 

Grosjean, Martin, Suter, Peter, Trachsel, Mathias & Wanner, Heinz. (2007). “Ice‐borne prehistoric finds in the Swiss Alps reflect Holocene glacier fluctuations”. Journal of Quaternary Science. 22. 203 – 207. 10.1002/jqs.1111.

Hansen, J., I. Fung, A. Lacis, D. Rind, S. Lebedeff, R. Ruedy, G. Russell, and P. Stone, 1988: Global climate changes as forecast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies three-dimensional model.J. Geophys. Res., 93, 9341-9364, doi:10.1029/JD093iD08p09341

Jevrejeva, S., J. C. Moore, A. Grinsted, and P. L. Woodworth (2008). n “Recent global sea level acceleration started over 200 years ago?”. Geophys. Res. Lett., 35, L08715, doi:10.1029/2008GL033611.:

Jevrejeva, S. , J.C. Moore, A. Grinsted, A.P. Matthews, G. Spada. 2014.  “Trends and acceleration in global and regional sea levels since 1807”.  Global and Planetary Change. %vol 113, 10.1016/j.gloplacha.2013.12.004 https://www.psmsl.org/products/reconstructions/jevrejevaetal2014.php

May, Andy. “A Holocene Temperature Reconstruction Part 4: The Global Reconstruction.” Watts Up With That?, 9 June 2017, wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/09/a-holocene-temperature-reconstruction-part-4-the-global-reconstruction/.

Nerem, R.S., D.P. Chambers, C. Choe & G.T. Mitchum. “Estimating Mean Sea Level Change from the TOPEX and Jason Altimeter Missions”. Marine Geodesy. Volume 33, Issue S1, 2010, pages 435- 446 Available online: 09 Aug 2010 DOI: 10.1080/01490419.2010.491031.

Siddall M, Rohling EJ, Almogi-Labin A, Hemleben C, Meischner D, Scmelzer I, Smeed DA (2003). “Sea-level fluctuations during the last glacial cycle”. Nature 423:853–858 LINK

The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in

The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear era, but I have no fear
’Cause London is drowning, and I live by the river

— The Clash “London Calling,” released in 1979
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92 thoughts on “Jeffrey Sachs Goes Full Retard on President Trump and Climate Change

  1. Sachs will go home empty handed, in the end.
    He went full retard…one of the first, and worst, to do so.
    He was the first sure sign I saw of Sci Am’s fall from greatness.
    He has led many down the path of delusional darkness.
    So smart he is full retard.
    He will go home empty handed.

  2. Good morning David …

    “The President of the United States does not have to the constitutional power to prevent the government of Puerto Rico from being incompetent

  3. David

    “James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists Chicken Little ?, has demonstrated that the Earth’s climate has moved above the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization.

    • I was going to insert “felon” or recidivist”, but didn’t want to be mean to another retard in the same post.

  4. Most Roman ports are above the current sea level in the Med. How does that equate to claimed sea level rise? Is the landmass really rising, or is Fig 10 (fig 8) incorrect?

    BTW, the key to this graph says both m and mm, so which is it? Meters sounds too big, while millimetres sounds too small. And how can you have error bars of 12m ??

    With landmasses rising and falling all over the globe, and with tidal ranges of several meters, and with the sea around Britain being 140m higher than the sea around the Caribbean, calculating sea levels to the nearest mm does not appear to as simple or as possible as people claim.

    It is a bit like trying to measure the temperature all over the globe, from tropics to poles, through all the weather patterns and all the seasons, and coming up with a single temperature for the annual-world. I mean, who would be so daft as to propose that? Oh, wait a minute…..

    Ralph

    • ralfellis – August 30, 2019 at 3:17 am

      Most Roman ports are above the current sea level in the Med. How does that equate to claimed sea level rise? Is the landmass really rising, or is Fig 10 (fig 8) incorrect?

      Ralfellis, …… put a “date” on the Roman ports you want to talk about.

      • Samuel, to your [ dis] comfort:

        Ostia Antica and Sea Level | Musings from the Chiefio

        06.12.2010 · Ostia Antica – Ancient Roman Sea Port, Now 2 miles / 3 km … above water level… but yes, sediments do wash out to sea on a … Yet sea level is lower …
        https://www.researchgate.net › …

        – Location map of Portus, the ancient sea harbour of Rome on the …

        Portus was Rome’s maritime port during the Roman Empire. In AD 42, the … Strong brick walls, over 3-m high

        (4 m above the Roman sea level) are still visible today.

        https://www.google.com/search?q=imperial+roman+ports+today+above+sealevel&oq=imperial+roman+ports+today+above+sealevel&aqs=chrome.

        • Johann Wundersamer – August 30, 2019 at 9:11 am

          Samuel, to your [ dis] comfort:

          Johann W, let me be the 1st to applaud your self-touting of your miseducation as well as your limited abilities to research subjects before trying to impress people with your tripe and piffle commentary.

          Here, even though I “boldfaced” key points, …… you be sure to request help at understanding, …… to wit:

          …… the Holocene history of the (Ostia Antica) coastal area of Rome [1]. Data were mainly collected from drillings, which were then interpreted from the sedimentological and paleobotanical viewpoint. Several phases of coastline advance were distinguished (see figure below). In the pollen diagram of the Lagoon of Ostia, an environment with marshy reeds and sedges with stagnant pools is recorded from about 3900 to 2600 years ago, a period characterized by geological and ecological instability associated with the migration of the cusp of the Tiber delta. The possibility of a temporary presence of the Tiber outlet in the area of the future imperial harbours (figure, 1st phase), before its migration to the present course alongside Ostia, is now generally accepted, and has found confirmation in several stratigraphic drilling data. It results also clearly from the study of the directions of the coastal barriers. This abrupt shifting to the south (2nd phase) has probably occurred in the seventh or eighth century B.C., in occasion of a heavy flooding.

          According to ancient tradition (authors such as Ennius, Livius, Cicero and Dionysius of Halicarnassus) Ostia was founded by the fourth king of Rome, Ancus Marcius, who was thought to have ruled in the late seventh century BC. Even the year is mentioned: 620 BC [2].
          Excerpted from https://www.ostia-antica.org/intro.htm

    • Cairo was a sea port. If sea levels were rising the delta would be swamped and Cairo would be a sea port again. It isn’t.

          • Cairo…
            I don’t believe that. Both Avaris (Pi ) (now Zagazig) was an Egyotian capital city 4,000 years ago. Tanis (Zoan) on the coast was a capital city 3,000 years ago – and they only moved from Avaris to Tanis because the branch of the Nile at Avaris silted up.

            Regards Alexandria being under water now, this is a function of daming the Nile, not of rising seas. The whole of the Delta is a silt flood plain, and highly dependent upon the water table. Preventing the Nile flooding, and extracting water for irrigation, is shrinking those silts and lowering the land (and preventing the deposition of more silts, upon which the Delta depends).

            But if you look across the Med, you will see numerous cliff undercuts that are at least 500 years old, and the present sea level is still on those ancient cliff undercuts. I see no sea level rise in the Med – and do remember that the Med has no tides, so no variation in sea levels.

            I have pics, but they are difficult to display here. Take a look at this one, which I think is east coast Spain near Alicante.

            https://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-319-06305-8_12/MediaObjects/318694_1_En_12_Fig12_HTML.jpg

            Ralph

    • The Siddall reconstruction is in m. Jevrejeva is in mm. Both are plotted at the same scale. Siddall has an error bar of +/-12 m.

      Here is the original reconstruction.

      They not in the paper that reconstructions like these have very large margins of error.

      • David …

        “The President of the United States does not have to the constitutional power to prevent the government of Puerto Rico from being incompetent

    • “It is a bit like trying to measure the temperature all over the globe, from tropics to poles, through all the weather patterns and all the seasons, and coming up with a single temperature for the annual-world. I mean, who would be so daft as to propose that? Oh, wait a minute…”

      … To 0.1 degrees Celsius at that!

  5. David

    “I initially starred out the “r” word for two reasons: ?

    Do I need more coffee ?

  6. The president is guilty. Shouts the gullible activist. But why should the activist be innocent?

  7. “I generated these plots a year ago. Things haven’t changed much since June 2018.”

    And in the UK the Boris the Animal, PM, after one of the longest sessions of parliament has decided as is normal to have a new session of parliament. Again nothing much has changed.

    But despite nothing much changing, the opposition, the “we must stop the democratic will of the people” brigade are flipping their lids like two year olds having a tantrum.

  8. Good posting, David. Figure 14, the Holocene Transgression, shows what it is like to leave an intra-glacial phase and journey into an inter-glacial phase. The CAGW crowd, now NOT including ex-President Obama, somehow believe the White Guys and their SUV’s cannot just prevent the next fall into an intra-glacial phase, but provoke another major Transgression.
    By the way, thanks for using a Hard-Rock Geologists pick for scale.

    • Shouldn’t that Estwing Rock Pick be scaled at the full height of the chart? (fig. 9)
      The chart is -250 up to +250 which would equal the 500 mm of the rock pick.

      • D’oH! I misread the label on the right! The Estwing is 330 mm and is scaled to fit the chart data to show the rise.

  9. “The first job of government is to protect the public,” writes Jeffrey Sachs.

    Luckily for us, Jeffrey, the Constitution prohibits the US government from protecting us from BS, nonsense, and propaganda from the likes of you. You are free to express your opinions without fear of government interference, and the rest of us (including Trump) are free to mock and/or ignore you.

    • While it may or may not be the responsibility of government to protect us from external threats, it’s also true the closer the government is to the person, the higher the level of responsibility.
      City before county, county before state and state before national.

      • “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

        Benito Mussolini, and current philosophy of many left-wing progressives.

    • Build the Wall!!!

      That would be a form of “protect the public>” Seeing as how MS-13, drugs, and their organized crime gangs that run migrants and drugs can cross that border with ease in many places from Brownsville to Tijuana.
      But I’m have no doubt “F-R” Sachs is totally against protecting our Southern Border from an illegal invasion of migrants by building a better barrier there. So he most certainly applies his logic where it suits his political bias.

  10. I wonder does the financier know of Bank of England Carney’s motion to replace the Dollar with a Synthetic Hegemonic Currency, only for uinlimited green investment? Would he openly call for such a move?

    And ex-NY FED Pres. Dudley openly saying the FED should decide the election, no Trump of course?

    I think Sachs, Dudley, Carney are really terrified what the reaction of the White House will be to the imminent crash.
    But hey, why wait for the crash – go for Glass-Steagall bank separation right now.
    Let Sachs, Carney go green with envy as we become spacefaring , fusion economies with absolutely no need to rescue them or their $15 quadrillion utterly banrupt racket.

  11. The temperature range for the Altithermal and Eemian is too low, particularly for the Eemian. Indeed it is difficult to find a site where the difference wasn’t larger than that during the Eemian/Sangamonian, except for some tropical ocean areas.

  12. Yep, the range is at least 0.5 °C too low. Central Greenland at least 1.5 °C warmer during the “Altithermal” and 5 °C warmer during the Eemian.

    • This is an interesting question that I have dedicated quite a lot of time to study. The farther North your proxy the biggest the difference. My best estimate for a global temperature anomaly based on glaciology, biology, and marine sedimentation data is that the Holocene Climatic Optimum was between 1-1.5°C warmer than the bottom of the Little Ice Age. We should be warmer than 5000 BP but cooler than the HCO.

    • Still nobody doing the sort of self sufficient farming on Greenland that the Vikings did. We know they were growing grain crops for what…hundreds of years?
      But yeah…hottest year evah!
      Meanwhile, glaciers have stopped retreating in Glacier National Park, or so it was reported.

    • Yep, the range is at least 0.5 °C too low. Central Greenland at least 1.5 °C warmer during the “Altithermal” …….. .

      The Altithermal or Climatic Optimum – a period roughly from 7,000 to 5,000 years ago.

      Yup, ….. at least 1.5 °C warmer is correct, …….. but more likely to have been 2.5° to 7.0°C warmer according to
      this study ……… and given the fact that Greenland and the Artic coast of northern Russia are both situate @ 75N latitude.

  13. Excerpt from article:

    Figure 6. 3,000 years ago, the Alps were relatively ice-free. Maximum glaciation occurred in the mid-1800’s.

    Historical records prove the above stated fact, to wit:
    Hannibal lucked out when he decided to march his army and herd of elephants across the Alps to attack the Romans in 218 BC because there surely could not have been many glaciers or heavy snowpack blocking his route since documented history proves he accomplished that feat.
    Read more @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal's_Crossing_of_the_Alps

  14. Dave, Sachs is a public figure and satire and parody are protected speech.
    So the R word?
    Meh.
    It was in a Hollywood movie made by frickin snowflakes.

  15. G7 $21,000,000 to fight the Amazon forest fires ???? (but what about climate change ??? )
    FIRE !!!! the Paris Cathedral FIRE $8,000,000,000 ( $5,000,000,000 revived )Yep, Politics =no-brains.

  16. How many thousands of times have I listened to that Clash record and never did it dawn on me what was being said.

    Great catch David.

  17. What is Sachs doing to fight ‘Climate Change’?

    That doesn’t look like a sack-cloth suit he’s wearing and I doubt if his current address is a cave up in the Adirondacks. Ohhh… everybody else is supposed to do what he says, not him. Yeah… sure… uh-huh…

    Old saw, updated: “Everyone talks about the weather ‘Climate Change’, but nobody does anything about the weather ‘Climate change.

  18. When deluded Leftist fools are losing argument, they can’t pound the facts, so they pound the table and have temper tantrums like the spoiled little brats they are….

    CAGW is already a completely disconfirmed hypothesis given the gigantic disparity between hypothetical projections on EVERYTHING vs empirical observations: global temps, severe weather incidence, sea level rise, Antarctic Land Ice loss, ocean pH, crop yields, droughts, desertification, CH4 concentrations, etc.,

    As the inevitable demise of the CAGW Hoax nears, the decibel level and th outrageous catastrophic projections and accusations will rise proportionally.

    Leftists need a good spanking and be sent to their rooms without supper like the spoiled infantile brats that they are.

  19. The red arrow, at 3,000 years BP, is approximately the end of the Holocene Climatic Optimum and the beginning of Neoglaciation.

    Although the end of the HCO varies depending on the site and the proxy I think it can be defended based on multiple evidence that on global terms the Neoglaciation started at the abrupt cooling event that took place at 5200-5000 BP and that among lots of evidence permanently buried Ötzi in ice until 1990.
    https://judithcurry.com/2017/05/28/nature-unbound-iii-holocene-climate-variability-part-b/
    Evidence is presented in figures 43 and 44.

    • Depending on location, the Late Holocene fall in sea level started anywhere from 5,000 to 3,000 years ago. Like the end of the HCO, it’s kind of a moving target. 3,000 BP seems to be the point at which sea level was clearly falling and glaciers were clearly advancing.

  20. CNN- Crappy News Network is a crime against humanity along with the rest of the radical, liberal,left wing fake news media like MSNBC,Washington post,NY Times,the guardian,the blind TV show, ‘The View’, etc.
    A news media outlet’s responsibility is to report the FACTS to the American people.But sadly,most of these outlets,which are owned by BIG leftist corporations, are subjective,not objective and are a mouthpiece for the left wing movement trying to brainwash the people with their left wing ideology and biased approach.They are a disgrace in how they try to deceive the American people and others.
    But overall,the American people are smart enough to see thru all of this.For example,CNN’s ratings have gone down considerably.

  21. You’ve got more to worry about – PBS Nova showing rich chicks in a diesel powered boat scuba diving in all these nice place…telling us the ocean is turning to acid….oysters can’t grow in a (human populated/polluted) bay in WA….and it’s….it’s….all due to CO2!!!!!!!!!

  22. ‘The first job of government is to protect the public.’ sez Sachs.
    The first imperative of Government is to promote the General Welfare, not the private losses of Wall Street firms with bailouts. Glass-Steagall bank seperation codifies that constitutional clause and will be re-instated. The Sachs of this world can keep their losses. Let them go green – no federal protection on bankrupcy.

  23. ‘The first job of government is to protect the public.’ sez Sachs.
    The first imperative of Government is to promote the General Welfare, not the private losses of Wall Street firms with bailouts. Glass-Steagall bank seperation codifies that constitutional clause and will be re-instated. The Sachs of this world can eat their losses – let them go green – no federal protection on bankrupcy.

  24. “The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us.”

    I’d love to know what catastrophic sea level rise is. Is civilization going to drown because our children’s, children’s, children cant choose to live a bit further back from it? Or plant their crops further back in a warmer wetter world?

    Is it catastrophic that some coastal structures might be lost in the far distant future by human lifetime standards? Like almost every structure ever built has been lost over the millennia.

    I think the best irony missed by all the alarmists is that tree ring proxies imply greater growth in a warmer world. And that’s supposed to be an indication of a worse world.

  25. Pompous or not (not in this case), I still don’t care for the “r” word being used.

    I can’t stand snowflakism, and I use profanities more than I probably should. I just don’t like comparing a disability (that these innocent people never asked for) to willful ignorance and deception.

    Those who are truly “retarded” are worthy of our respect and care, unlike the climate change cabal.

    • That is true… Maybe I should have titled the post “Jeffrey Sachs Willfully Goes Full Retard…”

      • You know, I was really nice about this. You can disagree and do whatever you want with the site, but being so dismissive of a legitimate and well delivered argument is out of character WUWT. In fact, the whole thing resembles of the behavior of extremist leftist sites. I don’t know about everybody else, but I’d like to choose a higher road than the people we’re fighting (and winning) against.

        I’d like to keep referring people to the site. If you want people like me to continue doing so, I suggest you at least re-think the way you handled this.

        Moving on.

        • renbutler,
          We do not need controlled speech. The term “Retard” has not been used for mentally challenged people in many years. It is used in mechanical processes and is used as an insult to supposedly smart people when they act stupid. It is not used to describe a disability, anymore. You need to chill and let the English language be used.

        • Why should anyone care whether concern trolls, like you mr. butler, want to continue coming to this site or not? If you want to take your concern trolling elsewhere, please do so.

    • I object to your use of the word “snowflakism”. Real snowflakes, the kind that melt, are beautiful and each one-of-a-kind, and they add beauty to our world, plus are awesome to ski on and are deserving of our respect and care, unlike those who get upset at the drop of a hat.

  26. Some used to see the face of God in catastrophic weather events. Now they see the fingerprints of climate change. Pity those of us who do not see. We are the deplorables.

  27. Meh. Already been done. Dave Roberts of Grist Mag. in 2006 proposed “Nuremberg-style trials” for “climate deniers”. Of course, now they are cereal. Super-cereal.

    [Grist Magazine’s staff writer David Roberts called for the Nuremberg-style trials for the “bastards” who were members of what he termed the global warming “denial industry.” Roberts wrote in the online publication on September 19, 2006, “When we’ve finally gotten serious about global warming, when the impacts are really hitting us and we’re in a full worldwide scramble to minimize the damage, we should have war crimes trials for these bastards — some sort of climate Nuremberg.” (http://gristmill.grist.org/print/2006/9/19/11408%5D

  28. If someone can indulge in full retard mode speeches and get paid for it, then he’s vastly outnumbered by full retard listeners.

    That’s precisely why climate hysteria is so hard to abate. It’s fueled by the only infinite achievable quantity, human stupidity.

    Stupid needs stupid and you can’t fix stupid.

    However at some point in time populations fight for survival. Which in climate wars might happen sooner than expected.

    • Stupid is more like a river that can be harnessed by some for money and power or sailed on by the really lightweights carrying advertising signs for smaller gains. There’s probably a good Mark Twain line that could be modified to capture the image of the mighty river of stupid.

  29. From the article: “Two independent, detailed epidemiological studies, using different methodologies — one led by researchers at Harvard University and the other by researchers at George Washington University— have estimated that thousands died in the aftermath of Maria.”

    Let’s see the autopsy reports and the death certificates.

    The number of actual reported deaths due to Hurricane Maria was about 51, if I recall correctly.

    Alarmists and anti-Trumpers using statistics to claim Trump is responsible for 3,000 deaths in Puerto Rico is the heighth of dishonesty. Which is to be expected from the Alarmists and the anti-Trumpers. They are totally dishonest. Never take what one of them says at face value. Dig a little deeper and you will probably find a completely different story, as in this situation.

  30. “The first job of government is to protect the public.” It would be difficult to answer, but a critical question is how much government “de facto protection” is efficient and how much contributes to the welfare/pork barrel type state? Comparisons between FEMA, church, private entities, state and local government hurricane actions might be valuable, not that it would change much.

  31. David
    Your criticism of an economist getting into the climate promotion business is appropriate.
    A few years ago, one of my addresses to the Committee for Monetary Research and Education covered climate and central banking. 13 minutes long.
    The Fed is going to host a convention about climate, so it is getting into the promotion.

    And by the way, that rock pick shows little wear.
    After a good day in the field a geologist will say–“We broke a lot of rock today.”

  32. Jeffrey Sachs is a very bright guy but perhaps a bit short in common sense. He was, after all, the one who thought it was possible to banish poverty with an algorithm.

  33. “The first job of government is to protect the public. Real protection requires climate action on several fronts: educating the public about the growing dire risks of human-induced climate change;”
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    It will that soon not be easy to refute the story of “terrible climate change”.

    Anyone who fails a task today, or with a project can blame the “already onset of climate change”.

    This will only end when everyone hearing that smiles tired because he has already heard this excuse 1x too often.

  34. Sachs is responsible for the misery he inflicted upon poor African communities with his disastrous “aid” programs. How many died as a result? We’ll never know. The man has thrown so many stones he’s surrounded by glass shards. He’s truly despicable.

  35. The bigger the mouth, the smaller the brain. When porkrind Rockers chaw their magic mushrooms, their Sorry Serenades of tinkle-and-bang redound like dishrags clogging drains.

  36. That economist Jeffrey Sachs presided over the miserably failed US prescriptions for transitioning the post-Soviet economy into the free market should provide a warning about his insights into other complex issues. Like many intellectual carpetbaggers, he relies upon attention-grabbing polemic rather than demonstrated competence.

  37. This growing season is so much cooler and shorter where I live I won’t get the peach crop I got last year! When somebody finally gets serious about global cooling, let me know! I believe my peach trees are a better indicator of what’s happening with the climate than all the supercomputer runs in the world!

  38. Use of “full retard”:
    The image I get is riding my 1942 BSA wm20. Retard the spark a little (using the handle bar lever) to start, then move to full advance to ride.
    To stop go full retard, then operate valve lifter.
    So full retard means to slow the engine, no progress and almost stop.

    Most apposite to the discussion. ( I too would rather not have “retard” used as a word to describe fellow citizens born with some brain functions less functional than mine)

    • Which is exactly what the Green New Deal would do to our economy… It would actually be works. It wouldn’t be “almost stop”. It would be full stop.

  39. And this shows the degree to which climate change has become a religion to these people. And citing James Hansen? That guy has made multiple wrong claims about what the climate will be.

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