How the Media Help to Destroy Rational Climate Debate

From Dr. Roy Spencer’s Blog

August 25th, 2019 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

An old mantra of the news business is, “if it bleeds, it leads”. If someone was murdered, it is news. That virtually no one gets murdered is not news. That, by itself, should tell you that the mainstream media cannot be relied upon as an unbiased source of climate change information.

There are lots of self-proclaimed climate experts now. They don’t need a degree in physics or atmospheric science. For credentials, they only need to care and tell others they care. They believe the Earth is being murdered by humans and want the media to spread the word.

Most people do not have the time or educational background to understand the global warming debate, and so defer to the consensus of experts on the subject. The trouble is that no one ever says exactly what the experts agree upon.

When you dig into the details, what the experts agree upon in their official pronouncements is rather unremarkable. The Earth has warmed a little since the 1950s, a date chosen because before that humans had not produced enough CO2 to really matter. Not enough warming for most people to actually feel, but enough for thermometers to pick up the signal buried in the noise of natural weather swings of many tens of degrees and spurious warming from urbanization effects. The UN consensus is that most of that warming is probably due to increasing atmospheric CO2 from fossil fuel use (but we really don’t know for sure).

For now, I tend to agree with this consensus.

And still I am widely considered a climate denier.

Why? Because I am not willing to exaggerate and make claims that cannot be supported by data.

Take researcher Roger Pielke, Jr. as another example. Roger considers himself an environmentalist. He generally agrees with the predictions of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) regarding future warming. But as an expert in severe weather damages, he isn’t willing to support the lie that severe weather has gotten worse. Yes, storm damages have increased, but that’s because we keep building more infrastructure to get damaged.

So, he, too is considered a climate denier.

What gets reported by the media about global warming (aka climate change, the climate crisis, and now the climate emergency) is usually greatly exaggerated, half-truths, or just plain nonsense. Just like the economy and economists, it is not difficult to find an expert willing to provide a prediction of gloom and doom. That makes interesting news. But it distorts the public perception of the dangers of climate change. And because it is reported as “science”, it is equated with truth.

In the case of climate change news, the predicted effects are almost universally biased toward Armageddon-like outcomes. Severe weather events that have always occurred (tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts) are now reported with at least some blame placed on your SUV.

The major media outlets have so convinced themselves of the justness, righteousness, and truthfulness of their cause that they have banded together to make sure the climate emergency is not ignored. As reported by The Guardian, “More than 60 news outlets worldwide have signed on to Covering Climate Now, a project to improve coverage of the emergency”.

The exaggerations are not limited to just science. The reporting on engineering related to proposed alternative sources of energy (e.g. wind and solar) is also biased. The reported economics are biased. Unlimited “free” energy is claimed to be all around us, just waiting to be plucked from the unicorn tree.

And for most of America (and the world), the reporting is not making us smarter, but dumber.

Why does it matter? Who cares if the science (or engineering or economics) is exaggerated, if the result is that we stop polluting?

Besides the fact that there is no such thing as a non-polluting energy source, it matters because humanity depends upon abundant, affordable energy to prosper. Just Google life expectancy and per capita energy use. Prosperous societies are healthier and enjoy longer lives. Expensive sources of energy forced upon the masses by governmental fiat kill poor people simply because expensive energy exacerbates poverty, and poverty leads to premature death. As philosopher Alex Epstein writes in his book, The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, if you believe humans have a right to thrive, then you should be supportive of fossil fuels.

We don’t use wind and solar energy because it is economically competitive. We use it because governments have decided to force taxpayers to pay the extra costs involved and allowed utilities to pass on the higher costs to consumers. Wind and solar use continue to grow, but global energy demand grows even faster. Barring some new energy technology (or a renewed embrace of nuclear power), wind and solar are unlikely to supply more than 10% of global energy demand in the coming decades. And as some European countries have learned, mandated use of solar and wind comes at a high cost to society.

Not only the media, but the public education system is complicit in this era of sloppy science reporting. I suppose most teachers and journalists believe what they are teaching and reporting on. But they still bear some responsibility for making sure what they report is relatively unbiased and factual.

I would much rather have teachers spending more time teaching students how to think and less time teaching them what to think.

Climate scientists are not without blame. They, like everyone else, are biased. Virtually all Earth scientists I know view the Earth as “fragile”. Their biases affect their analysis of uncertain data that can be interpreted in multiple ways. Most are relatively clueless about engineering and economics. I’ve had discussions with climate scientists who tell me, “Well, we need to get away from fossil fuels, anyway”.

And maybe we do, eventually. But exaggerating the threat can do more harm than good. The late Stephen Schneider infamously admitted to biased reporting by scientists. You can read his entire quote and decide for yourself whether scientists like Dr. Schneider let their worldview, politics, etc., color how they present their science to the public. The unauthorized release of the ‘ClimateGate’ emails between IPCC scientists showed how the alarmist narrative was maintained by undermining alternative views and even pressuring the editors of scientific journals. Even The Guardian seemed shocked by the misbehavior.

It’s fine to present the possibility that human-caused global warming could be very damaging, which is indeed theoretically possible. But to claim that large and damaging changes have already occurred due to increasing CO2 in the atmosphere is shoddy journalism. Some reporters get around the problem by saying that the latest hurricane might not be blamed on global warming directly, but it represents what we can expect more of in a warming world. Except that, even the UN IPCC is equivocal on the subject.

Sea level rise stories in the media, as far as I can tell, never mention that sea level has been rising naturally for as long as we have had global tide gage measurements (since the 1850s). Maybe humans are responsible for a portion of the recent rise, but as is the case for essentially all climate reporting, the role of nature is seldom mentioned, and the size of the problem is almost always exaggerated. That worsening periodic tidal flooding in Miami Beach is about 50% due to sinking of reclaimed swampland is never mentioned.

There are no human fingerprints of global warming. None. Climate change is simply assumed to be mostly human-caused (which is indeed possible), while our knowledge of natural climate change is almost non-existent.

Computerized climate models are programmed based upon the assumption of human causation. The models produce human-caused climate change because they are forced to produce no warming (be in a state of ‘energy balance’) unless CO2 is added to them.

As far as we know, no one has ever been killed by human-caused climate change. Weather-related deaths have fallen dramatically — by over 90% — in the last 100 years.

Whose child has been taught that in school? What journalist has been brave enough to report that good news?

In recent years I’ve had more and more people tell me that their children, grandchildren, or young acquaintances are now thoroughly convinced we are destroying the planet with our carbon dioxide emissions from burning of fossil fuels. They’ve had this message drilled into their brains through news reporting, movies, their teachers and professors, their favorite celebrities, and a handful of outspoken scientists and politicians whose knowledge of the subject is a mile wide but only inches deep.

In contrast, few people are aware of the science papers showing satellite observations that reveal a global greening phenomenon is occurring as a result of more atmospheric CO2.

Again I ask, whose child has been taught this in school? What journalist dares to report any positive benefits of CO2, without which life on Earth would not exist?

No, if it’s climate news, it’s all bad news, all the time.

More Examples of Media Bias

Here are just a few recent (and not-so-recent) examples of media reporting which only make matters worse and degrade the public debate on the subject of climate change. Very often what is reported is actually weather-related events that have always occurred with no good evidence that they have worsened or become more frequent in the last 60+ years that humans could be at least partly blamed.

The Amazon is burning

A few days ago, The Guardian announced Large swathes of the Amazon rainforest are burning. I don’t know how this has suddenly entered the public’s consciousness, but for those of us who keep track of such things, farmland and some rainforest in Amazonia and adjacent lands has been burned by farmers for many decades during this time of year so they can plant crops. This year is not exceptional in this regard, yet someone decided to make an issue of it this year. In fact, it looks like 2019 might be one of the lowest years for biomass burning. Deforestation there has gone down dramatically in the last 20 years.

The rainforest itself does not burn in response to global warming, and in fact warming in the tropics has been so slow that it is unlikely that any tropical resident would perceive it in their lifetime. This is not a climate change issue; it’s a farming and land use issue.

Greenland Is rapidly melting

The Greenland ice sheet gains new snow every year, and gravity causes the sheet to slowly flow to the sea where ice is lost by calving of icebergs. How much ice resides in the sheet at any given time is based upon the balance between gains and losses.

During the summer months of June, July, and August there is more melting of the surface than snow accumulation. The recent (weather-related) episode of a Saharan air mass traveling through western Europe and reaching Greenland led to a few days of exceptional melt. This was widely reported as having grave consequences.

Forbes decided to push the limits of responsible journalism with a story title, Greenland’s Massive Ice Melt Wasn’t Supposed to Happen Until 2070. But the actual data show that after this very brief period (a few days) of strong melt, conditions then returned to normal.

The widely reported Greenland surface melt event around 1 August 2019 (green oval) was then followed by a recovery to normal in the following weeks (purple oval), which was not reported by the media.

Of course, only the brief period of melt was reported by the media, further feeding the steady diet of biased climate information we have all become accustomed to.

Furthermore, after all of the reports of record warmth at the summit of the ice cap, it was found that the temperature sensor readings were biased too warm, and the temperature never actually went above freezing.

Was this reported with the same fanfare as the original story? Of course not. The damage has been done, and the thousands of alarmist news stories will live on in perpetuity.

This isn’t to say that Greenland isn’t losing more ice than it is gaining, but most of that loss is due to calving of icebergs around the edge of the sheet being fed by ice flowing downhill. Not from blast-furnace heating of the surface. It could be the loss in recent decades is a delayed response to excess snow accumulation tens or hundreds of years ago (I took glaciology as a minor while working on my Ph.D. in meteorology). No one really knows because ice sheet dynamics is complicated with much uncertainty.

My point is that the public only hears about these brief weather events which are almost always used to promote an alarmist narrative.

July 2019 was the hottest month on record

The yearly, area-averaged surface temperature of the Earth is about 60 deg. F. It has been slowly and irregularly rising in recent decades at a rate of about 0.3 or 0.4 deg. F per decade.

So, let’s say the average temperature reaches 60.4 deg. F rather than a more normal 60 deg. F. Is “hottest” really the best adjective to use to inform the public about what is going on?

Here’s a geographic plot of the July 2019 departures from normal from NOAA’s Climate Forecast System model.

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July 2019 surface temperature departures from normal. The global average is only 0.3 deg. C (0.5 deg. F) above the 1981-2010 average, and many areas were below normal in temperature. (Graphic courtesy WeatherBell.com).

Some areas were above normal, some below, yet the headlines of “hottest month ever” would make you think the whole Earth had become an oven of unbearable heat.

Of course, the temperature changes involved in new record warm months is so small it is usually less than the uncertainty level of the measurements. And, different global datasets give different results. Monitoring global warming is like searching for a climate needle in a haystack of weather variability.

Bait and Switch: Models replacing observations

There is an increasing trend toward passing off climate model projections as actual observations in news reports. This came up just a few days ago when I was alerted to a news story that claimed Tuscaloosa, Alabama is experiencing twice as many 100+ deg. F days as it used to. To his credit, the reporter corrected the story when it was pointed out to him that no such thing has happened, and it was a climate model projection that (erroneously) made such a “prediction”.

Another example happened last year with a news report that the 100th Meridian climate boundary in the U.S. was moving east, with gradual drying starting to invade the U.S. Midwest agricultural belt. But, once again, the truth is that no such thing has happened. It was a climate model projection, being passed off as reality. Having worked with grain-growing interests for nearly 10 years, I addressed this bit of fake climate news with actual precipitation measurements here.

Al Gore and Bill Nye’s global warming in a jar experiment

This is one of my favorites.

As part of Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project, Bill Nye produced a Climate 101 video of an experiment where two glass jars with thermometers in them were illuminated by lamps. One jar had air in it, the other had pure CO2. The video allegedly shows the jar with CO2 in it experiencing a larger temperature rise than the jar with just air in it.

Of course, this was meant to demonstrate how easy it is to show more CO2 causes warming. I’m sure it has inspired many school science experiments. The video has had over 500,000 views.

The problem is that this experiment cannot show such an effect. Any expert in atmospheric radiative transfer can tell you this. The jars are totally opaque to infrared radiation anyway, the amount of CO2 involved is far too small, the thermometers were cheap and inaccurate, the lamps cannot be exactly identical, the jars are not identical, and the “cold” of outer space was not included the experiment. TV meteorologist Anthony Watts demonstrated that Bill Nye had to fake the results through post-production video editing.

The warming effect of increasing atmospheric CO2 is surprisingly difficult to demonstrate. The demonstration is largely a theoretical exercise involving radiative absorption calculations and a radiative transfer model. I believe the effect exists; I’m just saying that there is no easy way to demonstrate it.

The trouble is that this fraudulent video still exists, and many thousands of people are being misled into believing that the experiment is evidence of how obvious it is to

Greta Thunberg’s sailboat trip

The new spokesperson for the world’s youth regarding concerns over global warming is 16-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg. Greta is travelling across the Atlantic on what CNN describes as a “zero-emissions yacht” to attend the UN Climate Action Summit on September 23 in New York City.

To begin with, there is no such thing as a zero-emissions yacht. A huge amount of energy was required to manufacture the yacht, and it transports so few people so few miles over its lifetime the yacht is a wonderful example of the energy waste typical of the lifestyles of the wealthy elite. Four (!) people will need to fly from Europe to the U.S. to support the return of the yacht to Europe after Greta is delivered there.

The trip is nothing more than a publicity stunt, and it leads to further disinformation regarding global energy use. In fact, it works much better as satire. Imagine if everyone who traveled across the ocean used yachts rather than jet airplanes. More energy would be required, not less, due to the manufacture of tens of thousands of extra yachts which inefficiently carry few passengers on relatively few, very slow trips. In contrast, the average jet aircraft will travel 50 million miles in its lifetime. Most people don’t realize that travel by jet is now more fuel efficient than travel by car.

The Greta boat trip story is in so many ways the absolute worst way to raise awareness of climate issues, unless you know knothing of science, engineering, or economics. It’s like someone who is against eating meat consuming three McDonalds cheeseburgers to show how we should change our diets. It makes zero sense.

I could give many more examples of the media helping to destroy the public’s ability to have a rational discussion about climate change, how much is caused by humans, and what can or should be done about it.

Instead, the media chooses to publish only the most headline-grabbing stories, and the climate change issue is then cast as two extremes: either you believe the “real scientists” who all agree we are destroying the planet, or you are a knuckle-dragging 8th-grade educated climate denier with guns and racist tendencies.

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Chris Davie
August 26, 2019 2:14 am

I wonder to what extent the current crescendo of eco-hysteria is driving political centrists to the right? I know a number of reasonable, intelligent people who are liberal in their social viewpoint but just can’t take this hypocrisy any more and for whom the last straw is blaming the normal and usual fire season in Brazil on the president, simply because he is right wing populist!

Dunnooo
August 26, 2019 3:30 am
Mark Broderick
August 26, 2019 3:53 am

“China scientists warn of global cooling trick up nature’s sleeve”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3022136/china-scientists-warn-global-cooling-trick-natures-sleeve

“Driving forces include the sun, the atmosphere, and its interaction with the ocean,” Wu said. “We have detected no evidence of human influence. But that doesn’t mean we can just relax and do nothing.”

Linda Goodman
August 26, 2019 3:57 am

“…the media chooses to publish only the most headline-grabbing stories…”

That’s a complete fallacy. Media is rapidly losing its audience for churning out ‘fake news’, so profit is obviously not the motive. Media is actually a powerful globalist propaganda tool pushing the eco-fascist agenda world government agenda we know as ‘climate change’. And in 2012 it became legal for the media to lie to Americans, when Obama modified the Smith-Mundt Act. But instead of giving cover to another globalist president, it’s attacking the nationalist President trying to save our nation, who rightly defines the media as the ‘enemy of the people’.

Loydo
August 26, 2019 4:10 am

“burned by farmers for many decades during this time of year so they can plant crops. This year is not exceptional in this”

You may not be a “denier” Roy but you certainly are a top-shelf-disinformer. Three million species live in the Amazon rainforest. 20% of it has been destroyed and that is getting perilously close to the tipping point where most of the rest it dries out or is burnt and degrades back to savannah.

“Destroying the Amazon to advance the agricultural frontier is like shooting yourself in the foot. The Amazon is a gigantic hydrological pump that brings the humidity of the Atlantic Ocean into the continent and guarantees the irrigation of the region.”
http://naturenvilles.blogspot.com/2011/02/flying-rivers.html

“yet someone decided to make an issue of it this year”

Shame.

Editor
Reply to  Loydo
August 26, 2019 6:41 am

You are are a top shelf dissembler.

Amazon deforestation has DECLINED nearly 80% in the last decade. Much to do, but its much better than it used to be.

What is burning is not jungle, as has been pointed out by Spencer, Kip Hansen, and myself (using NASA data). Its farm land. Very little of the observed fires are in the jungle.

Loydo
Reply to  Les Johnson
August 26, 2019 12:34 pm

“What is burning is not jungle, as has been pointed out by Spencer, Kip Hansen, and myself”

You’ve done no such thing. Nothing you’ve posted cleary shows what is actually burning. There is enough important forest at risk to send in 40000 troops.

“Very little of the observed fires are in the jungle.”

How can you possibly say that looking at grainy pictures from your lounge chair?

Reply to  Loydo
August 26, 2019 1:10 pm

Fire activity in the Amazon varies considerably from year-to-year and month-to-month, driven by changes in economic conditions and climate. August 2019 stands out because it has brought a noticeable increase in large, intense, and persistent fires burning along major roads in the central Brazilian Amazon, explained Douglas Morton, chief of the Biospheric Sciences Laboratory at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center. While drought has played a large role in exacerbating fires in the past, the timing and location of fire detections early in the 2019 dry season are more consistent with land clearing than with regional drought.

[…]

On August 19, 2019, the MODIS instrument on NASA’s Terra satellite captured a natural-color image (top of the page) that shows fires burning in the vicinity of Novo Progresso in the Brazilian state of Pará. The town is located along BR-163, a straight north-south highway that connects farmers in the southern Amazon with an ocean-going port on the Amazon river in Santarém. Pasture and croplands are clustered around the highway in ordered, rectangular plots. To the west of the highway, winding roads connect a series of small-scale mines that extend deep into the rainforest.

The map above shows active fire detections in Brazil as observed by Terra and Aqua MODIS between August 15-22, 2019. The locations of the fires, shown in orange, have been overlain on nighttime imagery acquired by VIIRS. In these data, cities and towns appear white; forested areas appear black; and tropical savannas and woodland (known in Brazil as Cerrado) appear gray. Note that fire detections in the Brazilian states of Pará and Amazonas are concentrated in bands along the highways BR-163 and BR-230.

https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145498/uptick-in-amazon-fire-activity-in-2019

Richard M
Reply to  Loydo
August 26, 2019 9:24 am

Loydo, it appears you (and your reference) are into trade wind denial.

Loydo
Reply to  Richard M
August 26, 2019 12:24 pm

It’s not the wind, it’s the water it holds. The dryness is being partl attributed to deforestation,

Reply to  Loydo
August 27, 2019 8:05 am

If so, you’re wasting time posting here. You need to contact your nearest Brazilian Embassy pronto!

August 26, 2019 4:24 am

Sadly none of Dr Spencer’s critics are prepared to sit down with him and carefully discuss the main points that he makes and so ably spells out in this article. They cannot do this because it may – just may – cause them to doubt some of their own firmly held views or horror something far worse – cause them to change their views!

George Orwell wrote about certain adjectives “used to dignify the sordid process of international politics.” Something similar happens today when politicians and the media write about the weather and climate. They want to stoke fear by their alarmist use of certain adjectives to describe weather. Whether it is really hot or cold, wet or dry, stormy or calm – all of these conditions simply describe the way we experience the weather.

I question using the adjective “extreme” to describe weather and wondered about Dr Spencer using the word “severe.” Does this not create a false impression that there are two distinct categories of weather, normal and dangerous, and that we are somehow responsible for the latter and can engineer the former? To his credit Dr Spencer states that “Severe weather events . . have always occurred” and qualifies “severe” as referring to “tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts.” Perhaps we need to follow his example by clearly stating our position and clarifying what we mean as well as the use of verifiable empirical data?

Instead of stoking fear, we can face the great variety of weather conditions by adapting to and coping with them – as our ingenious ancestors have – rather than trying to engineer a perfect climate. No matter how much climate change occurs there will always be climates we find harsh and those we find temperate and we have the ability to live and thrive in each.

August 26, 2019 5:29 am

[Charles, please delete one copy of this comment if it was double-posted….lost my Internet just as I hit “Post Comment.”]

hmmmmm…..carry the 3 (for the Nephews)….divide by Donald Duck’s birthday…2+2=22……AHA!, so a “CONSENSUS of 97%” of (pick a number -1)/(the number you picked) shows conclusively that >97% of the models OVER-predict. See how easy it is to generate a 97% Consensus?….Where’s my Nobel Prize?

Seriously, given the assertion I made, only ONE model NOT over-predicting vs. ALL of the ones that DO over-predict is …a distinction without a difference.

David, with all due respect, and I have a great deal of respect for you and for all the others trying to stop this worldwide suicide pact from being implemented, we are destroying civilization based on the regurgitations of the Oracles of Microsoft/Apple/whatever software they use as an operating system for these VIDEO GAMES!

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 26, 2019 6:17 am

It’s just that it is possible for the CMIP-5 model to match the observations. Now, I can’t explain why INM-CM4 works; but it does…

INM-CM4 doesn’t even melt Greenland under RCP8.5…

Greenland INM-CM4 model, RCP8.5. Greenland still frozen in 2100 AD, barely warmer than the coldest part of the Holocene, the Little Ice Age.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/30/u-s-climate-resilience-tool-kit-greenland-stays-frozen-in-2100-even-under-rcp8-5/

The problem with climate science is that it’s not possible to run a controlled experiment. We don’t have a “control” Earth to compare to the actual Earth. Modeling is the only way the climatic effects of anthropogenic CO2 can be estimated.

Bruce Cobb
August 26, 2019 6:38 am

It’s also fine to present the possibility that space aliens might attack us at some point, which is indeed theoretically possible, but to claim that space aliens are already here and are planning an imminent attack would be shoddy journalism. Not to mention the possibility that pigs might sprout wings and fly, which is also theoretically possible, but to claim that they will be soon, and thus wreaking havoc, endangering all air travel, etc. would be shoddy journalism.

Chris Ogden
August 26, 2019 6:57 am

The willingness of climate science people to pervert and obstruct serious science is truly shocking. I was alarmed to read this report which describes what can only be described as a McCarthyesque process of deliberately excluding scientists who you don’t agree with (“climate sceptics
“) from the debate, ostensibly because it might waste “real science” time and resources.

https://www.nas.org/blogs/dicta/nature-communications-creates-a-scientist-blacklist

A Dent
August 26, 2019 8:14 am

Another sink site for propaganda. Any site that mixes political bias with ‘science’ is of little value – because all premisses are couched in a belief structure that seeks to garner positive feedback based on that political bias – so is just an echo chamber. MSM assume the position judge and jury biased to their readership, and the views of the editorships’ paymasters. Climate modelling and any complex system modelling for that matter, can not forecast precisely where things will be at any given point in the next 100 to 300 plus years. The properties of a dynamic system with unknown variables that could change the calculations significantly. What we do know, is that impact of the modern human species has had a detrimental effect on multiple ecosystems across the planet – this has been true since the last wholly mammoth was slaughtered. As a species renowned for rape and pillage we collectively need to wise up and become better custodians of the only earth we all share. Its as simple and complex as that.

Coach Springer
August 26, 2019 8:28 am

Dr. Spencer is on board with 2 degrees C per century warming? (0.4 F per decade)

Reply to  Coach Springer
August 26, 2019 9:43 am

That’s not what he wrote…

The yearly, area-averaged surface temperature of the Earth is about 60 deg. F. It has been slowly and irregularly rising in recent decades at a rate of about 0.3 or 0.4 deg. F per decade.

HD Hoese
August 26, 2019 8:34 am

“Yes, storm damages have increased, but that’s because we keep building more infrastructure to get damaged.” True, but still too much DUMB CONSTRUCTION needs added. I live where the eye of Harvey went over, and number of us with hurricane and local experience predicted fairly well what would be damaged the most. Some of it is still in repair. They are putting up, rebuilding, too much of the same, but some improvement.

Tom Abbott
August 26, 2019 9:05 am

From the article: “The UN consensus is that most of that warming is probably due to increasing atmospheric CO2 from fossil fuel use (but we really don’t know for sure).”

What warming?

Tmax and unmodified regional temperature charts show it was just as warm in the 20th Century as it is today.

The UN does not consider CO2 to be a significant factor in the warming of the 1930’s, and attribtes most of that warming to Mother Nature, yet the similar warming of today, that is no warmer than the 1930’s, is assumed to be caused by CO2, for no justifiable reason.

This is an arbitrary assumption not based on any facts. The warming of today should be assumed to have been caused by Mother Nature just like the warming of the 1930’s, until proven otherwise.

There is no proof otherwise. There is only a greenhouse gas theory and a fraudulent Hockey Stick to support the contention that CO2 is the cause of the warmth, and the greenhouse theory has not been able to nail down the ECS number, although with each new study it get lower, and the lower it gets, the less human-caused global warming is indicated since they figure ESC assuming most or all the current warmth is caused by CO2.

From the article: “For now, I tend to agree with this consensus.”

I don’t know why.

From the article: “And still I am widely considered a climate denier.

Why? Because I am not willing to exaggerate and make claims that cannot be supported by data.”

Well, as far as I can see, there is no data supporting the contention that current warming is mostly caused by CO2. Every time I ask for this data, all I get is silence from those who make such claims. That leads me to believe they don’t actually have any data to back up these assertions.

I think claiming you think CO2 has caused most of the current warming without any evidence, is giving aid and comfort to the alarmists.

Perhaps CO2 has caused some warming. But Most? Come on! This is pure speculation. Admit it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 28, 2019 5:09 am

We know that unmodified regional surface temperature charts from all around the world show that the 1930’s were just as warm as today.

We know that unmodified Tmax surface temperature charts from all around the world show that the 1930’s were just as warm as today.

We know that the Climategate Data Manipulators conspired to erase the 1930’s warmth from the surface temperature record in an effort to make it look like the temperatures were getting hotter and hotter every decade and to make it look like CO2 is the cause. Thus, the creation of the fraudulent Hockey Stick global surface temperature chart.

If Mother Nature warmed the temperatures in the 1930’s (according to the IPCC), and the current temperatures are no warmer than the 1930’s, then what temperature increase did CO2 contribute? How do you say CO2 added extra warmth when there is no extra warmth?

The only way that I can see that a person would declare that CO2 has caused most of the warming from 1979, is if they believe that the fraudulent Hockey Stick global surface temperature chart is a realistic representation of the temperature record, and they ignore all the historic surface temperature data.

If there is another way of getting from here to there, I would like to hear it.

The Real surface temperature chart is on the left (it’s temperature profile matches all the other unmodified charts) in the link below, and the fraudulent Hockey Stick (which doesn’t match any unmodified chart) chart is on the right:

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

Andy in Epsom
August 26, 2019 10:18 am

After watching A certain forecasters saturday summary I have to plead guilty to laughing whyen he was talking about this girl sailing across the atlantic potentially into a tropical storm

August 26, 2019 10:47 am

Nick Stokes August 26, 2019 at 9:04 am
Well, quote an actual headline? What did it say about that Summit camp measurement?
I believe I posted an excerpt from the report issued by the Danish Meteorology officials previously, but in any event, since you must not have mastered operation of the SEARCH ENGINE, try these.

Danish climate body wrongly reported Greenland heat “record”
https://www.thelocal.dk/20190808/danish-climate-body-wrongly-reported-greenland-heat-record

https://alethonews.com/2019/08/12/greenlands-record-temperature-denied-the-data-was-wrong/

https://principia-scientific.org/danish-climate-body-wrongly-reported-greenlands-heat-record/

https://climatechangedispatch.com/dmi-wrong-greenland-heat-record/

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/08/13/greenlands-record-temperature-denied-the-data-was-wrong-no-record-heat-after-all-danish-climate-body-wrongly-reported-greenland-heat-record/

https://muskegonpundit.blogspot.com/2019/08/danish-climate-body-wrongly-reported.html

…if you need more, you will just have to put on your big-boy pants and try to figure out that mysterious “search engine” contraption. You do have a point in that most reports that go against the CAGW Alarmism get spiked, and even Social Media platforms block and censure them.

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 27, 2019 12:48 am

Those are not news media headlining the (faulty) temperature at Summit Camp. They are sceptic blogs berating DMI for getting the reading wrong, after DMI had published the correction. Where are the media that supposedly promoted the faulty reading.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 6:38 am

You didn’t read my comment about live Radio and TV broadcasts disappearing into cyber space, etc., did you? How did the world find out about it at all, by “OSMOSIS?” Are you claiming that it didn’t happen? Tell Anthony that he published a fictitious story. How many people read science blogs? When are you going to learn to use a SEARCH ENGINE?

It is no secret that news reports that do not support the CAGW Alarmist narrative get spiked, and media outlets of any type who report them on Social media are censored and blocked and blacklisted and smeared as KOOKS and often shut down. Stay a mushroom for all I care. The better for the whole world if you and your fellow travelers are looking for grubs and night crawlers and not spouting CAGW Doom and Gloom.

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 27, 2019 12:21 pm

“When are you going to learn to use a SEARCH ENGINE?”
You still haven’t found anything you can quote.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 12:35 pm
Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 4:06 pm

Well, quote what they say about the reading on August 2 at Summit Camp.

In fact, in your list, two (WAPO and CP) are from 2016. Polar Portal is undated, but is writing about June, nothing later. And the NYT report, which is actually dated 2 August, doesn’t mention it; the reading probably happened after the report, in any case.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 5:36 pm

You keep repeating the same denial….you are the DEFINITION of “DENIER!!”

Pethefin August 12, 2019 at 9:22 pm
As even Nick might be aware of, there is a world of media outlets that use other languages than English. The faulty record was widely published e.g. in the Scandinavian countries, here’s a Danish example:

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/vejret/anden-varmerekord-paa-en-uge-aldrig-er-der-maalt-hoejere-temperaturer-i-groenland

where a Norwegian climate change professor from the Nansen Center in Bergen calls the temperature extreme

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 5:50 pm

You said that it generated a spate of global headlines. Now all you can come up with is one Danish-language web site.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 6:03 pm

Add “can’t use a search engine” and “lacks reading comprehension skills” to your very thin resume. I really don’t care, you have the right to remain ignorant.

Pethefin August 12, 2019 at 9:22 pm
As even Nick might be aware of, there is a world of media outlets that use other languages than English. The faulty record was widely published e.g. in the Scandinavian countries, here’s a Danish example: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/vejret/anden-varmerekord-paa-en-uge-aldrig-er-der-maalt-hoejere-temperaturer-i-groenland

…where a Norwegian climate change professor from the Nansen Center in Bergen calls the temperature extreme.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 27, 2019 6:41 pm

I’m using the same math to calculate “spate” as Naomi Oreskes and John Cook used to calculate their “97% Consensus” totals….e.g., 2+2=22

Reply to  Nick Stokes
August 28, 2019 2:35 am

Nick Stokes

There was no internet in the 1970’s. The reliability of committing articles representing global cooling to Google searchable media is therefore questionable.

What isn’t questionable, however, is my recollection. There were a number of articles in newsprint and on the BBC/ITV etc. at the time speculating on an impending ice age.

There are, however, some remnants of that time from credible sources presenting the ‘cooling world’ scare.

http://www.denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf
https://tinyurl.com/y3a72fbl
https://tinyurl.com/y3y2znca
https://tinyurl.com/y5rvg6gw

Editor
Reply to  HotScot
August 28, 2019 4:22 am

Odd that Peterson missed this summary, from his own agency.

1972 – Kukla-Mathews publishes in Science, an article about the end of the current inter glacial. Also writes a letter to Nixon in 1972, specifically warning about global cooling.
1973 – First Climate office started in Feb 1973 (ad hoc Panel on the Present Inter Glacial). This was after a meeting of 42 of the most prominent climatologists, and apparently there was consensus about cooling. Especially as the NOAA, NWS and ICAS were involved.
1974 – Office of Climate Dynamics opened.
1978 -Carter signs Climate Program Act, partly due to the SEVERE WINTER experienced the preceding winter.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170603064539/http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/outreach/proceedings/cdw29_proceedings/Reeves.pdf

Uno Hansson
August 26, 2019 3:01 pm

Trams, trams, trams… mycket trams… men klimatkrisen… är väl bara ett symptom på en mycket, mycket större miljökris… och att vi lever avsevärt långt över förnyelsen av naturtillgångar… eller hur?

Bindidon
Reply to  Uno Hansson
August 27, 2019 5:10 am

For those who might not understand

… but the climate crisis… is probably just a symptom of a much, much larger environmental crisis… and that we live considerably far above the renewal of natural resources… right?

A somewhat deeper explanation would be welcome!

August 27, 2019 9:07 pm

Dave Middleton. Love this plot. How was it generated and where did it come from?
https://imgur.com/a/BqqXrek

Johann Wundersamer
August 28, 2019 3:32 am

Greta Thunberg’s sailboat trip

16-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg is the new spokesperson for global warming. Greta is traveling across the Atlantic on what CNN describes as a “zero-emissions yacht” to attend the UN’s Climate Action Summit on September 23 in New York City.

Thunberg is 16 years old. She will never have to work for her forthcoming throughout her life. Video recordings are put on the network. Who clicks on the video pays to Thunberg – she owns the copyrights because the camera crew is the the boat on Thunberg’s account.

If Greta’s world is over in 12 years, that were 12 highlife years for the Thunberg – we ordinary people have to see for ourselves how we handle our forthcomings through these 12 hard years.

Bindidon
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
August 29, 2019 11:47 am

Johann Wundersamer

“Greta is traveling across the Atlantic on what CNN describes as a ‘zero-emissions yacht’ to attend the UN’s Climate Action Summit on September 23 in New York City.”

A ‘zero-emissions yacht’ would mean that not only
– its daily operation
but also
– its engineering
and
– its dismantling
would all generate no CO2.

Reminds me all these ‘100 % CO2-free’ nuclear plants, ha ha haaa!

Best regards from near Berlin.

cwon14
August 29, 2019 11:13 am

If you think the climate war isn’t predominately politics dressed as science then you’ve missed out on a rational conclusion.

It isn’t rational because it is politics. Denial that it’s political serves the advocates of state and crony authority promoting climate policy. The most rational in the science community have to form this acknowledgement. There’s nothing close to an empirical close on the prefab science part of the CO2 warming and accepting the advocates framing of the debate was half the road to nowhere we’ve been progressing on since the 70’s.

There really is a climate science but pretending it’s the rational driver of the conflict is obtuse. Green activism morfs from flavor to flavor, the driver is the central plan over individuals and private interests.

Bindidon
Reply to  cwon14
August 29, 2019 12:08 pm

cwon14

What a strange, simple blah blah!

Why don’t you understand, of course before writing your stuff, that anybody could write exactly the inverse, e.g. that the so-called skeptics’ meaning in fact is 100% influenced by politics, industry and trade interested in promoting fossile fuel burning?

Jesus.