From Bishop Hill, another ugly day in the climate wars. At least we have Josh.
Andrew Montford writes:
Who can forget the infamous threat from Greenpeace’s Gene Hasmi?
We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work.
And we be many, but you be few.
But was this a one-off? The evidence is suggesting otherwise. In the comments thread to a particularly sick Guardian post, which was adorned with a photo of a severed head, and which I will not therefore dignify with a link, comes this from commenter Bluecloud:
Should that not be [Matt] Ridley’s severed head in the photo?
and this from the same source:
We would actually solve a great deal of the world’s problems by chopping off everyone’s heads.
Why are you deniers so touchy? Mere calls for a beheading evolve such a strong response in you people.
Ask yourself a simple question: Would the world be a better place without Matt Ridley?
Need I answer that question?
Bluecloud turns out to be another Guardian author, Gary Evans, whose day job is as a boat-driver and translator for Greenpeace.
The Guardian and Greenpeace: sick, sick people.
Bishop Hill I gather that a comment outing Bluecloud as a Guardian author has been removed from the thread. The death threat remains in place.
Beheadings have been used throughout history as a successful alternative used in lieu of winning a debate, it’s just a little trickier to implement these days.
I am so confused. Explain to me again why comparing the CAGW crowd to NAZIs is wrong???
JJ,
Don’t be confused, they just don’t like the comparison. Not that there’s anything wrong with it.
They certainly act the same, don’t they?
Not quite; the CAGWers are wannabes. Their role-models succeeded, albeit temporarily.
dbstealey, The Pompous Git, I must humbly disagree with you. I think that the NAZIs would object more to the comparison. I doubt they would see much in common with these modern “greens” and would regard them as an abomination to be eliminated As a matter of fact I can hear distant sounds of metal clanging as the ghost of “Michael Wittman” reassembles his “Tiger” tank
have a laugh
michael
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/The-Nazi-roots-of-the-German-Greens-318973
The Pompous Git, I did say “modern” greens. Their (the former) goal was the perfect environment for the perfect race. They were after all Social Darwinists. They built monuments to the master race, a glorification to their sick and twisted dreams for the future. Not man, nature or heaven itself was to be spared their manipulation. The two have nothing in common. What have the “Modern Greens” ever built? Show me their tributes to the human spirit, their glory to the greatness of the human race. There is no love of race, culture, nation or history to be found in them. Only self loathing, disdain and the mockery of all human achievement.
Sorry I go on.. I have a very high view of the human race even in its darkest hours.
michael
1983 seems quite recent to me, but then I’m ancient in your eyes, I guess.
The Pompous Git … Me 1957, you? My Dad Pacific theater Feb. 1942 port moresby his brother wounded shortly after he landed June 7 1944.
My major was military history. Minor political science. Not well loved on campus .
Me 1951 in Nuneaton, UKLand. Dad: guest in one of Mr Hitler’s “holiday camps” at age 14. Ended up in Jugoslavia at war’s end. Was alerted to his being up for the firing squad for “collaboration with Germans” during the war. WTF! Never completed a degree, but have studied chemistry, biology, physics, mathematics, geology, history, philosophy, print-making and engineering at tertiary level. Was offered the opportunity to undertake a PhD in sustainable agriculture, but declined.
Nearly forgot. Quite liked on campus by fellow students 2003 – 2006. They told me it was because I thought about their questions before answering. Lecturers were split. One history tutor gave me “the highest mark I ever gave an essay” because I gave my own thoughts. Tutor next semester gave me a bare pass for exactly the same reason. She told me I was there to echo the thoughts of my betters, not my own. That’s when I quit…
@The Pompous Git – the latter is all too prevalent in the halls of higher education. Sadly
The former is a teacher. The latter is a indoctrinator.
Mike & Git,
Me, 1948.
neener ☺
[And 1983 seems like yesterday…]
Jimi Hendrix sounded nothing like Paul McCartney 😉
That was more an exclamation than a question, wasn’t it ?
Why not just put it right out there ?
It reads the same either way.
Just need to define “wrong”.
Just have to wonder about the laws in the UK right now – isn’t wanting someone beheaded due to their views
actually “hate speech” and should be prosecuted as such?
In times such as now, such comments are extremely disrespectful of those actually victims of such violence, and an insult to the rest of us…
Having said that, I’m not surprised that the CAGW “team” has stooped so low. With “deniers” and
“death trains” they’ve shown they have neither respect nor interest for people and history.
Message to Gene Hasmi – take your best shot you miserable little impudent [trimmed]
[We have standards here. Please do not insult impudent worms. Nor seagulls. .mod]
Nice one mod, I’ve told people this is a site with “standards”.
What about ferrets? 😉
These creeps are just the tip of the iceberg. We should be thankful they slipped up as the beheading talk wakes up many. Further, industrialized nations are at zero population growth. The countries still exponentially increasing are the poorest. Modernization is the answer not beheading. The rss uah has wrecked their plans. Anyone with half a brain knows the alarmism is bs (bad science). It’s a political movement run it’s course. Talk about poor losers!
Bluecloud’s violence focused comments reveal his stark craziness; a craziness that offends independent thinkers in the climate dialog.
By this recent association with Dana’s posts as a commenter, Gary (Bluecloud) Evans makes Dana at the Guardian look even kookier than before.
John
parody on/
{apologies to the creators of the movie ‘The Matrix’}
The Guardian environmental head of staff has a meeting with its authors Dana Nuccitelli and Gary (Bluecloud) Evans as a result of Dana’s Guardian post ‘Matt Ridley wants to gamble the Earth’s future because he won’t learn from the past’ and Gary’s (Bluecloud’s) violence inciting comments on that Dana post which advocate beheading people who he disagrees with (like suggesting beheading Matt Ridley).
At the meeting the Guardian environmental head of staff offers each of them two pills; a red pill and a blue pill. He says to them, “This is your last chance Dana and Gary (Bluecloud). After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – your silliness in front of skeptics ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you must participate in a real debate on climate with the skeptics and they will show you how deep the alarmist climate change rabbit-hole goes.”
Dana responds, “I’ll take the blue pill. Everyone at Cook’s blog will want one too.”
Gary (Bluecloud) responds, “I’ll swallow both pills at the same time so I can be even crazier than before in blog comments advocating violence against skeptics.”
/parody off
John
This illegal threatening conduct is not new – it has been happening for more than a decade.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/12/charlie-hebdo-climate-skepticism-free-speech/#comment-1835330
Recently sent to a friend who wrote an article critical of global warming alarmism:
You will know you have truly “arrived” when you receive your first death threat from the enviro-nuts. Dr. Tim Ball has received several. I feel somewhat slighted because I only received rather lame one – more than a decade ago.
Warmist violence has been minor – one scientist friend had the family dog killed, an oil industry colleague had his house fire-bombed – as was the Calgary Petroleum Club.
I was concerned that violence would ramp up as the warmists became more desperate – fortunately this has not happened (yet).
I did recommend many years ago that my friends take certain precautions – lock your office entrances, vary your routes home, etc. I still think this is prudent.
Environmental extremism appeals to the uneducated and the feeble-minded – fortunately most of these people are too lazy to take serious action.
Best regards, Allan
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/27/a-big-goose-step-backwards/#comment-1800850
Here is a list of those forced from their institutions by global warming thugs:
George Taylor – Oregon State Climatologist
Sallie Baliunas – Harvard University
Pat Michaels – University of Virginia
Murry Salby – Macquarie University, Australia
Caleb Rossiter – Institute for Policy Studies
Nickolas Drapela, PhD – Oregon State University
Henrik Møller – Aalborg University, Denmark
The Guardian is not solvent financially but kept afloat by government subsidy. UKgov clearly feel the country needs a state funded mouthpiece of liberofascism.
When the hell did science become about running off half cocked to become a global hero instead being about understanding the question in the first place?
>>BCBill
January 23, 2015 at 5:26 pm
ATHeoK has it. Brilliant. Their rallying cry is “off with their heads”, ours is “on with their heads” (or brains at least.
ladylifegrows
January 23, 2015 at 6:43 pm
On with their heads. I like that. That slogan might actually get somewhere by showing us as more rational and safer to have around..<<
If you want to get ahead, get a head.
As you were folks. You won’t lose your heads for global warming blasphemy but it’s OK to hang out with the head choppers-
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/were_exporting_frightbats/