Matt Ridley responds to Tim Lambert's War @ Deltoid

Since it has been mostly silent in the last few months, I didn’t even know Deltoid blog was still up and running, but I’m happy to publish this rebuttal for Matt Ridley against Tim Lambert’s claim that Ridley was wrong 20 years ago in a piece Mr. Lambert has focused on. Mr. Lambert can hopefully learn a few things by reading this, mostly, that he’s out of his league when arguing with Matt Ridley, who’s far more versed in the subject than Lambert. I suppose the word “pwned” might apply here. – Anthony

Nostradamus has nothing on me…

Guest post by Matt Ridley

I first wrote about man-made climate change more than quarter of a century ago in 1986, when I was science editor of The Economist. Here’s what I wrote then:

“If man were not around, the planet would, over several centuries, cool down enough for snow to last through the summer in Europe and much of North America. That snow would accumulate until ice sheets covered the land. The next ice age would have begun.

But man is around, and he has fiddled with the thermostat. In particular, he has burned wood, coal, gas and oil in increasing amounts, turning it into carbon dioxide and steam in the process. At the same time he has cut down forests to make way for agriculture. More carbon dioxide, fewer plants to turn it back into oxygen: as a result carbon-dioxide levels are rising steadily. They have now reached 150% of their pre-industrial levels: about 280 billion tonnes of carbon have been added to the atmosphere.

All this extra carbon dioxide makes the atmosphere slightly less transparent to infra-red rays. More of the earth’s reflected heat stays here rather than escaping to space.so, the planet is getting warmer. Slowly, and erratically (for about 30 years after the second world war the climate cooled slightly), the average temperature of the whole globe is going up. It has risen about ½ degC since 1850. Carbon dioxide takes time to show its effects, though, so even if levels stay the same as they are now, the temperature will continue to climb. If they go on rising, in the next century the temperature will rise by several degrees.

That may not sound much. To the inhabitants of cold countries, it might sound attractive. But it is worrying mainly because of its effect on the oceans and the pattern of climate. If the temperature of the oceans rises, the water expands slightly and the ice caps melt slightly: on present trends, the sea level will rise by between two and ten feet by 2100. That will inundate low-lying parts of the world, including such populous places as Bangladesh and Holland.”

I think you will agree that this is a fairly standard account of the greenhouse effect and – apart from the male pronoun for the species – could have been written today. Very little has changed in the conventional account of global warming. Indeed, today I would change almost none of it. (Almost! Read on.) I am moderately relieved to find that with just a few weeks exposure to the science of global warming I got most of it roughly right. In those days, remember, there was no internet and journalists had to find things out the hard way.

But as the years passed I came to understand more, and soon I no longer accepted every word of the above account. In particular, I discovered something my informants had failed to disclose – that even fast rising levels of carbon dioxide could not on their own generate “several degrees” of warming in a century: for that to happen requires amplification by water vapour. All the models assumed this amplification, but the evidence for it began to look more and more threadbare. So by 1993, six years after the piece just quoted, I no longer thought that 2-10 feet of sea level rise was likely and I no longer thought that several degrees of warming were likely. Instead, I wrote – in a single throwaway sentence in a long piece about eco-scares generally – that

“Global warming, too, has shot its bolt, now that the scientific consensus has settled down on about a degree of temperature increase over a century-that is, little more than has taken place in the past century.”

This was published in a book the Economist put out each year called (in this case) “The world in 1994”. The main prediction of the essay, by the way, was that genetic engineering was the next big eco-scare. I was right, if a few years early, and I did not spot that tomatoes, rather than dolphins, would be the species that touched the heart strings and purse strings of the green movement. I’ll append the essay at the end of this blog post for those that are interested.

I am even prouder of that sentence. At the time such a “lukewarm” view was unfashionable among activists, though not yet among scientists – and you were allowed to say things like that without being treated like a holocaust denier. But it’s not far from what I think now. Since the modal climate sensitivity in all the best studies is now settling down at a bit over 1.5 degC, and since the effect of aerosols, black carbon, ocean heat uptake etc are now all better understood and provide fewer and fewer excuses for high sensitivity models to disagree with data, for me to have come up with “about a degree” two whole decades ago, in a single sentence in an essay on other topics, seems quite surprising. Climate change was not my main interest then: I was writing a book about the evolution of sex having left the Economist to be my own boss.

Indeed, if you take a look at the graph below, you will see that over 34 years, there has been about 0.36 degrees of warming on a rolling average using data from five different sources: or on track for 1.08degC in a century, give or take. About a degree?

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Graph from climate4you.com

I am not claiming prescience, more like surprise. As a journalist you get used to cringing at the things you once wrote, usually when you were too much of a slave to the conventional wisdom of the day. In this case, I feel no need to cringe.

Anyway, what’s the point of all this? Well, this sentence, taken out of context, was reprinted last week by a website called Deltoid in a blog post entitled rather strangely “The Australian’s War on Science 81: Matt Ridley’s 20 year old wrong prediction” (I am not an Australian, and I have as far as I recall only once written an article for the newspaper called the Australian; I have enlisted in no war on science – indeed if there is such a war, I’ll join the infantry on science’s side). The sentence was said to have come from the Globe and Mail, a Toronto newspaper that again I have hardly ever written for, in 1993.

Alerted by a tweet from Andrew Revkin, I replied in three tweets a few seconds apart: “I did not write for the Globe and Mail in 1993, let alone about climate…maybe the GandM quoted something else I wrote and anyway…not yet wrong”. This led to a torrent of tweets from some activist claiming I had denied the article, I was an idiot, etc. Good luck to him. Anyway somebody –- actually Gavin Schmidt – then kindly posted the article on the Deltoid website (the “owner” of which, Tim Lambert, had failed to do me the courtesy of letting me know he was posting this strange attack) so I could check that yes, I did write it and that yes unbeknownst to me the Globe and Mail did reprint it, presumably with the permission of the Economist, on the last day of 1993.

Now for all I know Tim Lambert may be very good at his day job, which is lecturing in computer graphics at the University of New South Wales. He may also be charming company. But let’s just parse his headline. “Matt Ridley’s 20-year-old wrong prediction”. In what way was it wrong? One fifth of a century has passed since I wrote that sentence – I’d hardly call it a prediction, more an assessment – so how can it be wrong yet to say that there will be a degree of warming in a century? And since the fullest data set over the longest period shows that we are on track for 1.08 degrees of warming in a century, “about a degree” is looking pretty good so far, though of course it is far too early to tell. I’m not claiming it was right, just that it’s 80 years premature to call it wrong.

But Lambert seemed to be under the impression that it was obvious that I was already wrong. In a series of tweets and in a very odd, cherry-picked graph with no data source cited, he kept insisting that there’s been 0.4 degrees of warming between 1993 and 2013. I showed him the above graph. Since 1993 was the low point of the post-Pinatubo cooling (conveniently) and by ignoring the black average line in the above graph but taking the one data point that is November 2012, he claimed justification. “UAH 0.42 warming over baseline. 1993 temp on baseline,” he tweeted. At this I have to admit, I burst out laughing so loudly my dog woke up. Truly the mind boggleth.

There ensued a silly little twitter war of words in which Lambert refused me room to reply in a blog post with diagrams – the comments space of his website does not fit diagrams — while a chorus of tweeters heaped abuse on my head. This is what passes for debate in climate science, or computer graphics departments, these days.

Now, let’s look at some predictions that HAVE failed.

First, the IPCC’s many models, only two of which looks any good at this stage. The rest have all overshot the real world by some margin. Woops.

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Chart by John Christy.

Then James Hansen:

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Chart from kaltesonne.de

All three of his scenarios were wildly higher than what actually happened, even though carbon dioxide emissions were HIGHER than in all three of his models.

Then IPCC again, this time for methane:

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Chart from the leaked IPCC report.

Er, back to the drawing board, lads.

Now look, fellers, you do this kind of thing for a living. I’m just a self-employed writer with no back-up team, no government grants, no taxpayer salary, no computer simulations, and absolutely no pretensions to being Nostradamus about anything. But it strikes me I did a far better job of predicting the climate back in 1993 than any of you! How could that be?

Anyway, the whole episode was depressing in two ways.

First, it’s a little sad that a lecturer in computer graphics took the trouble to look up a sentence a freelance journalist wrote 20 years ago in a piece about something else and falsely claimed it was already “wrong” when it isn’t, and would hardly matter if it was. Does he not have anything better to do?

Second, it’s also a little sad to read just how little has changed in the climate debate since then. If I could travel back in time and tell my 34-year-old self in 1993 that I would be roughly right to take a “lukewarm” view about global warming, but that in the meantime the world would ignore me and would instead spend hundreds of billions of dollars on ways to prevent the poor getting rich with cheap electricity, on destroying rain forests to grow biofuels, on spoiling landscapes with windmills to provide less than half a percent of the world’s energy, and on annual conferences for tens of thousands of pampered activists, then surely my younger self would gape in disbelief.

Anyway, here’s the 1993 essay in case you’re interested.

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The Globe and Mail (Canada), December 31, 1993 Friday

THE WORLD IN 1994 IDEAS ENVIRONMENT
The Next Eco-Scare: Some environmental crises are genuine; others are carefully exploited fundraising bonanzas

By MATT RIDLEY
 The Economist

Like sharks, environmentalists must move forward or die. Without a constant supply of new incidents, new buzzwords and, above all, new threats, they cannot keep scaring people into sending the money that pays their salaries. For this reason alone, 1994 will produce a fresh crop of environmental scares. Not all will be bogus, but judging by the recent track record of the greens, many will.

The environmental movement has become increasingly driven by the push of marketing, rather than the pull of public outrage. When that happens to organizations, priorities change. For example, scientists at one of the biggest wildlife charities were firmly against arguing for an ivory-trade ban in 1989; they thought it would be bad for elephants. But their
marketing people saw rival organizations, which had endorsed a ban, reaping large rewards from direct-mail campaigns. It was not long before the charity was urging an end to the ivory trade.

This takeover by marketing types is having an insidious effect. In the past, environmentalists were essentially reactive. It took an external event to trigger their campaigns: the Yom Kippur War led to the oil crisis, the hot American summer of 1988 made the greenhouse effect newsworthy. But that is not the way things work in the public relations world. Does Madonna just record a song and wait to see how popular it gets? Does Steven Spielberg make a film about dinosaurs and hope it sells? No, they hype their products, whether they are good or bad. And so, soon, will environmentalists.

If you were to design the next environmental threat, what you would come up with would be a scare that is invisible (like radiation), global (like the greenhouse effect), irreversible (like rain forest destruction), cancer-causing (like dioxin) and singles out furry animals (like a Canadian seal-clubber). To sharpen your marketing skills, invent the next threat out of these building blocks.

All over the world, as you read this, groups of environmental fundraisers are trying to think up next year’s top-selling Cassandra album. They remember the great hits of the 1980s: acid rain, Chernobyl, global warming, the ozone layer, Exxon Valdez, the ivory ban. Each was a fundraising bonanza. The 1990s have been less kind to them. When the Braer oil tanker went aground on Shetland in January, 1993, it was a bonanza for the newspapers: Environmental groups rushed to place advertisements featuring photographs of oil-soaked birds-photographs that had been kept on file for exactly this eventuality ever since the Persian Gulf War.

The
Braer was, however, more of a disaster for the environmental movement than for the shags of Shetland (let alone the Socotra cormorants of the Arabian Gulf whose pictures adorned the advertisements). The oil quickly dispersed in heavy gales and did minimal damage.

As a consequence, oil spills have lost some of their power to extract funds from people’s pockets. Global warming, too, has shot its bolt, now that the scientific consensus has settled down on about a degree of temperature increase over a century-that is, little more than has taken place in the past century.

Biodiversity has some mileage left in it, because the rain forests are shrinking as fast as ever and nobody has come up with any good ideas of what to do about it, except form committees at the United Nations. Various follow-ups to the Rio convention of 1992 will take place in 1994, providing some opportunities for tugging heartstrings about the plight of Indians, three-toed sloths and esoteric fungi. But even Sting, a pop star, has wearied a little of the cynicism of the Indians he bought land for (they sold it to loggers).

Radioactivity? Not unless there’s another Chernobyl. The ozone layer? The public is bored. Electric fields causing cancer? Worth a try, but the studies keep coming up blank (try cellular phones instead). What about reviving the fads of the 1970s for predicting shortages of oil, food, water and raw materials? It will not wash; the elementary lessons of supply, demand and price substitution were too well taught by the 1980s.

One human ailment that is getting steadily worse is allergy. The evidence that allergies are diseases of the modern, technological world is now impressive (farmers and Victorian heroines rarely get allergies; only modern townspeople), and the deduction that they are somehow caused by air pollution is natural. If a scientist in 1994 can prove a link between, say, air pollution and allergies, then he or she can be sure of igniting a good campaign drawing attention to the “collapse of the human immune system.”

The other threat to raise will be genetic engineering. Suppose a genetically engineered virus designed to attack rabbits or aphids were to escape from a laboratory and start killing dolphins or cats; the leaflet writes itself long before the virus actually escapes. “This laboratory is creating cancer-causing viruses that could condemn one of nature’s most intelligent creatures to a lingering extinction, upset the fragile ecological balance of the biosphere and mutate into a deadly human plague. Don’t let it happen. Xed Jabong, lead guitarist of The Radical Sheep, urges you to help us act now.” You have been warned.

Matt Ridley is former science editor and U.S. editor of The Economist, and is the author of The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature.

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January 15, 2013 9:16 pm

Please stop nit-picking everything and anything. Most of us here are here to discuss someone named Matt Ridley who basically 20 years before his time basically got everything correct. We can argue over details all day long, but the entire premise of getting (basically) everything correct in a prediction? 20 years ago? Seriously? Can we say obsessed that someone even thinks to bring something like this up?

TomRude
January 15, 2013 9:19 pm

That was when the Globe and Mail was not the apologist of Big Green and all carbon markets…

Brad Keyes
January 15, 2013 9:28 pm

Jarryd:
” I got top marks in one of his courses once — ”
Which, COMP3421 (Computer Graphics)? That means you beat me by 1.
I agree, Tim Lambert was a great lecturer. He was also personable, even likeable, which makes his other persona as CAGW-promoting, malaria-denying zealot all the more disturbing.

Richard Keen
January 15, 2013 9:51 pm

Matt, I can see why you’re no longer at the Economist. The media, including formerly respectable media like The Economist, has joined academia and federal agencies in purging those who attempt to present a balanced “pro-con” on the climate issue. The Economist comes up periodically as a topic on WUWT; last year on the question of arctic ice:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/16/the-economist-provides-readers-with-erroneous-information-about-arctic-sea-ice/
My two cents at that time follow, and I see from the posts here that I’m in good and big company:
” I used to subscribe to and read The Economist for many years. Back in the 1970′s, some Brits on the faculty would leave copies in the reading room at the Institue of Arctic and Alpine Research in good ol’ Boulder, Colorado. I found the magazine’s free market perspective back then quite refreshing.
” Fast forward to 2008…. The Economist endorses Barack Obama for president, saying “America, it’s about time”, but offering no reasons why we should prefer him over the other guy, and providing no investigation into Obama’s background or any ideas on what his real political and economic philosophies could be. The reporting, if I dare call it such, was most shallow and un-insightful. The same applies to their coverage of “climate change”, where they buy the IPCC line uncritically.
” I calibrate sources by how they cover subjects I know something about – perhaps more than the source does, at times – and The Economist fails this calibration test miserably. I have no reason to think their coverage of diamond mining or Kazakhstan is any more profound than their coverage of Global Warming or Barack Obama, so there’s no point in sinking the big bucks for this magazine. Sadly, the E-communist has lost its free market roots and has sunk to the shallow and slanted reporting of the rest of the media.”

gallopingcamel
January 15, 2013 9:52 pm

I tried reasoning with the folks at Deltoid. It was fun but a waste of time.

January 15, 2013 10:42 pm

trafamadore says:
January 15, 2013 at 8:06 pm
“Well, let’s see. Not to pick the time scale to start about the last super high year of ’98, let’s stick with what we randomly started with, the early 90′s. So, has it warmed since the early 90′s?”
Truth is, you can pick any baseline and rise as you feel best serves your position. So far, in post-MPT time, two interglacials stand out in larger climate relief than this one so far has. MIS-11 and MIS-5e. Both had very different climate rides right at their very ends. MIS-5e scored one before it gradually decayed into the MIS-19 glacial, MIS-5e had two, the second one being larger.
And both producing thermal and sea level excursions that are quite laughably larger than whatever (so far (AR4) has been anthropogenetically prognosticated.
OK, so you you really, really want me to be concerned?
I’ll see your AR4 worst case rise by 2100 of +0.59M MSL, and raise you the low-end of MIS-5e’s second end-interglacial highstand of +6M (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379107001783)
With much suave you raise any Hansen et al trump paper you choose.
I check my cards and plunk down http://www.academia.edu/200023/Multi-stage_reef_development_on_Barbados_during_the_Last_Interglaciation
At over +40M MSL, end MIS-5e, the pot is getting rich….
You make something up, anything, and chuck that into the pot. And smile that very sly smile reserved to the most accomplished elite.
But I go all-in at +52M MSL, end-MIS-5e, and call http://lin.irk.ru/pdf/6696.pdf
My actuary looks at your most recent “credible”, but now 6-year old AR4 worst case bet, of +0.59M MSL by 2100, with respect to my last peer-reviewed raise and concludes that at worst I have bested you by at least an order of magnitude (natural end-extreme-interglacial natural climate noise times ~10, which would be +5.9M not +6M), the upper evaluation plunking down almost 2 orders of magnitude (nearly a factor of 100).
In this global Texas-Holdem climate-game of ours, I really should be terrified by your “best bet” coming in at less than 1/10th of what the last interglacial may have scored, sea-level wise, at a maximum, But the upper-error bar of the last sea level highstand “pot” quite naturally rates nearer to 1/100th of your most recent “best-guess”……..
Which would suggest to a truly wise wise one that on things which actually have happened the science is not all that well settled. Which necessarily leaves the science being settled on things which have not happened yet a bit unsettling…………
As uncomplimentary as it might sound means you need to up your game. A lot!
Because I simply cannot hear you over what should naturally be, the regular, normal, quite natural, end post-MPT extreme interglacial climate noise. With all of their regular trademark thermal excursions.
You need to make more anthropogenic signal if you expect to be identifiable as super-natural climate noise.

Climate Ace
January 15, 2013 10:43 pm

[snip -off topic]

January 15, 2013 10:51 pm

Watch letting your” fingers do the walkin’ ”
“Both had very different climate rides right at their very ends. MIS-5e scored one before it gradually decayed into the MIS-19 glacial, MIS-5e had two, the second one being larger.”
I meant to type:
Both had very different climate rides right at their very ends. MIS-11 scored one before it gradually decayed into the MIS-10 glacial, MIS-5e had two, the second one being larger.

Matt Ridley
January 15, 2013 10:52 pm

Rob Potter
Yes, I think this is the piece you talk of, but it was in 1997:
http://www.economist.com/node/455855
Matt

January 15, 2013 11:17 pm

Global warming, too, has shot its bolt, now that the scientific consensus has settled down on about a degree of temperature increase over a century-that is, little more than has taken place in the past century.
+++++++
You were arguably wrong that global warming had shot its bolt in 1993. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been raised by the scare since then. However, you were correct in your prediction that the warming would not be nearly as bad as the hype. And you were correct in your prediction that the purpose of the hype was to raise money, not to actually save the environment.

January 15, 2013 11:28 pm

@Old Fossil: Before Al Gore’s movie, I accepted that the world was warming and that CO2 had something to do with it. I did not think much about it, as I thought we’d adapt. But after seeing the movie, I had a ton of questions. And the engineer in me went out on a pursuit to find the truth of what was being said… and to understand why people thought this. I then read State of Fear, not even knowing what it was about… it was just a book my wife bought me. I most enjoyed John Kenner, the scientist for how he reasoned through what was said and what was happening.
After that, I found WUWT… and this is my main source to hear things out… My process control background shows that “climate science” is mostly political and seeks to find a predetermined conclusion with a closed mind, case closed attitude. I look forward to the cooling, only in that it may stop the nonsense and waste of our world’s wealth.

January 15, 2013 11:35 pm

Excellent article from 1993/4 and a great riposte. It seems to me that Mr Lambert would do well to stick to his own specialism, though, if his ‘scientific rigour’ in that is as good as what he has shown in his piece attacking your article – I would not want to engage his services in that field either.

January 15, 2013 11:38 pm

trafamadore says:
January 15, 2013 at 8:06 pm
davidmhoffer says: “there has been no warming since the late 90′s on at least a half dozen occasions as I recall, what are we to make of this statement?”
Well, let’s see. Not to pick the time scale to start about the last super high year of ’98, let’s stick with what we randomly started with, the early 90′s. So, has it warmed since the early 90′s?
Yes it has.
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Well lets see, has it warmed since 1756 or 1431 or 1292 or 1066?
My “smarter than the troll meter” tells me it has cooled since 1292 so global cooling is in.

Eliza
January 15, 2013 11:40 pm

Actually most of the warming idiots seems to come from Australian Universities. Its a pity they used to have a reasonably good higher education system. It all stopped with Keating and Hawkins the then Minister of Education or whatever if I recall.

Latimer Alder
January 16, 2013 12:08 am

Just posted this at Deltoid’s. Wonder if it’ll ever appear
‘I’d draw your attention to this remark by Ridley (from his WUWT article)
‘There ensued a silly little twitter war of words in which Lambert refused me room to reply in a blog post with diagrams – the comments space of his website does not fit diagrams — while a chorus of tweeters heaped abuse on my head.’
It seems that those who accuse him of ‘chickening out of the debate’ (eg Lotharsson) have it arsebackwards if this is true. Did Lambert refuse him space here to make his case

Post is now ‘awaiting moderation’

January 16, 2013 12:12 am

A Crooks says: January 15, 2013 at 4:32 pm
“I think this may be another one of those own-goals from the warming fraternity, where they actually draw attention to the weakness of their position and draw attention to the their opposition.”
The problem is that those who tweeted Matt will never read the rebuttal. Most of the readers at @deltoid are now convinced the Matt Ridley was wrong and that if he is the best that deniers can come with then the green gravy train can keep on rolling.

David, UK
January 16, 2013 12:22 am

Can we even say that 1 degree warming is down to anthropogenic CO2? Once you deduct the on-going natural warming since the end of the LIA, what are you left with?

Bertram Felden
January 16, 2013 12:37 am

The Economist in the 90’s those were the days. I cancelled my subscription more than a decade ago when they changed editors and jumped on the AGW bandwagon with a megaphone and complete abandonment of their previous impartiality.

January 16, 2013 12:39 am

Japanese proverb “To know where you are going you need to know where you came from”
Whilst looking back into the past check this Youtube clip from 1990
Channel four Equinox Documentary its what started all for me.This was more than just another TV show about the weather it was the day i became politically aware.

Stacey
January 16, 2013 12:42 am

Marks out of ten for the post by Mr Ridley. TEN.
Ditto the 1993 article.
What strongly supports the views of the 1993 article in respect of the Eco charities is actually the percentage of their donations which deal with the issue. It used to be 30% and now it’s 20%?

January 16, 2013 12:43 am

Eliza says:
January 15, 2013 at 11:40 pm
…..what you said
I migrated to Oz in 1989. What I found was a refreshingly practical and pragmatic approach to coming to grips with the then new boutique anthropogenic worst of our tetra-ethyl-death messes.
I had such hope then that you would not head “down the ‘EPA’ road which the USA has been following for many years now.” (The Weekend Australian, Feb. 18-19, 1989-28.
I find no way to express proper apologies for quagmiring a sister democracy in such obsequious feldercarb….
….save the apparent northern tectonic course of the Australasian plate, however far, mayhaps in anticipation of the next iteration of the genus Homo.

Paul Matthews
January 16, 2013 12:58 am

Matt Ridley’s response misses one important point – Tim Lambert’s graph is a complete fake!
Lambert draws a green line on his graph and labels it “Ridley Prediction”.
He then talks of Ridleys remark of 1 degree per century.
So we’d assume that Lambert’s graph had a slope of 1 degree/century.
But it doesn’t, as noted by Nick Barnes in the comments.
In fact Lambert’s green line has a slope of about 0.5C/century!
The dishonesty of the climate activists never ceases to amaze me.

January 16, 2013 1:00 am

Matt – love your work. Your main problem was writing a book and using the words Rational and Optimist as the title.
This was bound to annoy the anthill mob – they are anything but either of those.
Also,
what David, UK says:
January 16, 2013 at 12:22 am

P. Solar
January 16, 2013 1:00 am

“There ensued a silly little twitter war of words in which Lambert refused me room to reply in a blog post with diagrams – the comments space of his website does not fit diagrams — while a chorus of tweeters heaped abuse on my head. This is what passes for debate in climate science, or computer graphics departments, these days.”
It seems that your assessment 20y ago was pretty astute. Probably helped by by the fact that the corruption of climate science was only just beginning at that time.
You expectation that anything can be “discussed” on a medium as limited as Twitter is less astute.The format is too limited to discuss with even if you someone intelligent and of good will to converse with. It’s use is limited to trivia like ” my @buggie is dead. I think I’ll get a @parrot” or alerting someone to some event as you say Revkin did in this case.
Twitter, as its name suggests, is for twits. Twits tweet on Twitter.
Don’t go there.

oldfossil
January 16, 2013 1:01 am

Thanks to those who expressed interest in my conversion on the road to Damascus. I first came to WUWT to read Dr. Robert Brown’s “Response to Dr. Paul Bain’s use of ‘denier’ in the scientific literature.” I admitted that I’d been guilty, wrong, and unfair on that particular issue, and the arguments presented in the rest of the article made sense. So I started to educate myself. Spin only works on the ignorant, and I saw that I’d been the gullible victim of a well-organized campaign of misinformation.
My legal training makes me pretty good at identifying false or irrelevant evidence. I can also recognize a dishonest or merely fallacious argument. And trust me there are just as many wrong-thinkers on the skeptic side as you’ll find at SkepSci.
So thank you to commenters like Climate Ace and trafamadore. A lot of people here don’t want you to challenge their thinking because they’re scared that they might be wrong. The only way that I know if I’m right is if I test my opinions all the time against new facts and more persuasive arguments. I want to learn. I want to improve. And I’m willing to change.