UPDATE: Monckton is being deported from Qatar. Such a show of tolerance from the “tolerant left” who do these sorts of stunts all the time (sometimes illegally). Monckton has been ‘de-badged’, meaning he no longer has a visa to stay in Qatar and had 24 hours to leave the country.
UPDATE2: Monckton says “I was very bad” see below. We now have video. There doesn’t seem to be any “booing” after his statement as asserted by the press reports, and his statement was more than a sentence as reported.
UPDATE3: Monckton gives his account here
An excerpt from an E &E Newswire story
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After the news conference, and as diplomats gathered for the climate conference president’s assessment of how close countries are to agreement, Monckton quietly slipped into the seat reserved for the delegation of Myanmar and clicked the button to speak.
“In the 16 years we have been coming to these conferences, there has been no global warming,” Monckton said as confused murmurs filled the hall and then turned into a chorus of boos.
The stunt infuriated negotiators and activists here who gather every year to address what they believe is one of the world’s top threats, the steady rise of man-made global warming.
As Monckton was escorted from the hall and security officers stripped him of his U.N. credentials, several people noted that just a few hours earlier a group of young activists had been thrown out of the convention center and deported. Their crime: unfurling an unauthorized banner calling for the Qatari hosts to lead the negotiations to a strong conclusion.
By late today, several activists attending the conference had posted calls to “deport Monckton” on their Twitter feeds
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Full story:
Inhofe, Monckton crash U.N. talks with gusto
Jean Chemnick, E&E reporter
Published: Thursday, December 6, 2012
http://www.eenews.net/Greenwire/print/2012/12/06/2
h/t Marc Morano
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Lord Monckton claims victory over climate change scare stories – Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthvideo/9728622/Lord-Monckton-claims-victory-over-climate-change-scare-stories.html
Excerpt:
Earlier in the week he appeared in a video promoted by US lobby group the Committee on a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) riding a camel to promote a “different perspective” of the talks.
The two-week meeting, due to end on Friday is deadlocked on modest goals such as aid and an extension of an existing UN-led plan to combat climate change into 2013.
The European Union, Australia, Ukraine, Norway, Switzerland are the main backers of Kyoto who are willing to extend legally binding cuts in emissions beyond 2012 until 2020.
But they account for less than 15 per cent of world emissions.
Russia, Japan and Canada have pulled out, saying it makes no sense to continue when big emerging nations led by China and India have no binding goals.
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[Monckton] has been banned for life from UN climate talks.
Speaking afterwards, he said he was acting on the “spur of the moment”.
“I don’t think it was my turn to talk, but the opportunity presented itself and I took it,” he said.
“I was very bad – I pressed the button and made a short statement.”
“I know it was bad of me, but I got some brief points across which the delegates probably didn’t expect.
“They have now taken my badge, but it’s not the end of the world.”
VIDEO:
Richard you said that the question of equilibrium and radiative forcing are both red herrings,
I would think that investigation into both would help you get the understanding that you may seek
the HADCRUT$ trend from 2000 is 0,12DegC/D. If you want to be more correct then looking at the Model as linked you might say the the HADCRUT data shows cooling from 2005, but then you might be ignoring La ninas while not ignoring the 1998 El nino.
I am here to help richard but you are making it hard,
might wait for Coke
Richard, another problem I have with your answer is that it was only in june last year when Phil Jones declared that the warming since 1995 was now statistically significant,
WE cannot confuse people to going from significant to not significant in just twelve months, it is not something that i would find convincing and again it would make it hard to convince others
Reply to richardscourtney
From your comments I assume you did not watch the video. It is most interesting and puts things in the correct perspective. (The youtube video does not.) Even though I have played it several times, I am still not sure that I was searching for the correct phrase, but the phrases I tried should have been good enough to locate an organization with a similar name.
It is the name used to introduce Lord Monckton, not something he said himself. Since all the other speakers I watched (by no means all of them) were introduced by just their country name, I *assumed* that Lord Monckton had written that on a piece of paper that got passed to the person that allowed him to speak.
At any rate, you would do us all a favor if your search could find the organization that the speaker said Lord Monckton was representing.
BTW, Monckton’s statement starts at 43:50, not 44:50 which I had in the previous post. (typo)
[Reply: Fixed. -ModE]
Richard,
I came back from the shop a short while ago and carried on writing my response to John’s original post, only to find that you had answered him, and with a much greater insight than a layperson such as myself could possibly muster. I’m looking at my own writings now, and feel my response is somewhat inadequate when compared to yours!
I did notice that the climate forcings issue was somewhat of a red herring, but for different reasons than you did (i.e., John mentioned “comparing radiative forcings” but the post did not state what I was supposed to be comparing them TO – each other, perhaps? I can see a can of worms right there) but I guess your interpretation of the situation was just as valid, if not more so.
It’s times like this that I wish I had a greater grasp on the science, but as your post so eloquently shows, much of the discussion is now moot anyway, given the recent lack of warming :s
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Hi, Phil M!
What science are you talking about?The CAGW-junk-science pushed by presstitutes worldwide?
Are you an [SNIP! Cute, but an insult ‘to the person’. -ModE]
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I note that you see Moncktons deportation from Doha as being somehow a left wing issue. Doha is located in Qatar which has been ruled as an absolute and hereditary emirate for hundreds of years. It is not even remotely associated with any form of left wing activism. I may be that you see someone being thrown out of a country for hijacking a countries delegated seat to announce their own views on climate change as being a symptom of intolerant left wing politics. I think that is really straining at gnats to get the usual conservative comment inserted into climate science debate. Ask yourself, if there was a skeptic international conference being held and Julian Assange hijacked a delegates seat to announce to the audience his opinions on on US policy resulting in boos from the audience, would this be seen as right wing intolerance, or a fairly normal reaction to such behaviour? Bringing politics into the debate is the curse of climate science, but it appears to be as popular as ever.
I am Monckton (can I be locked up with Pussy Riot please?)
john byatts:
At December 7, 2012 at 2:51 am you write to me with disingenuous bunkum starting with this
We are discussing what Lord Monckton said, where he said it, how he said it, and responses to his having said it.
He said
He did not mention “equilibrium” or “radiative forcing”. You raised them as ‘red herrings’.
I do not “seek” any further “understanding” of these issues because I have sufficient understanding to explain them, and I have (in my post at December 7, 2012 at 1:07 am). You are raising your ‘red herrings’ because the truth hurts.
I have stated all the information on the issues pertaining to what Lord Monckton says. And you have clearly demonstrated that you want to side-track the thread to discussion of anything else.
Richard
Garethman:
I completely support – indeed, I applaud – Lord Monckton in what he did and what he said at the Doha CoP, and I also completely agree with your post at at December 7, 2012 at 3:48 am.
I copy your post here so others do not need to find it.
Richard
Garethman says: December 7, 2012 at 3:48 am Bringing politics into the debate is the curse of climate science
Politics is the basis for so-called climate science. Thie idea of specialization for a field of science is nonsense. Mathematics + Semantics = a science field. My father had a degree in botany. He spent half his career making ICs, the other half as a top-secret clearance engineer in ICBM manufacture. The only specialization in climate science is the politics.
Richard said….
“And you have clearly demonstrated that you want to side-track the thread to discussion of anything else.”
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…And I fell for it hook, line and sinker, didn’t I?
I feel foolish and I offer my sincere apologies to everyone.
Note to mods: You are the best mods I ever came across and it is humbling to be in your presence 🙂
Lord Monckton is one person I would like to see in Dubai right now:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/13656-un-to-seek-internet-kill-switch-next-month-documents-show
– for the ITU summit. It is only about 200 km away.
Seems as though the BBC will not be covering the eviction or the truth behind it!
Monckton said: “In the 16 years we have been coming to these conferences, there has been no global warming…”
However, according to smoothed HadCRUT3, it has failed to warm for only 11 years:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/
The British with the exception of Lord Monckton are just a bunch of complete dorks. They are easily bullied by the totalitarian green left into accepting IPCC bogus science without any discussion or question; each political party vying with the next to prove its green ‘planet saving’ credentials and in the process wasting billions of pounds on completely unnecessary CO2 reduction projects. Our climate change ministers travel to Doha and pledge/commit/give millions of pounds which we haven’t got and have to borrow to build wind farms in Africa and manage cattle ranching in Colombia. Lord Monckton usually campaigns in countries that are still discussing the science so it was great to so him in the bigoted ‘lions den’ of Doha bringing or injecting some reality into the prceedings. I would very much like to see him campaigning in Britain for the UK Independence Party at the next European and national elections on the science issues which would be as big a challenge as attempting to convert the delegates in Doha!
markx says:
December 6, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Another indication that hanging your hat on one particular point in a debate about this chaotic climate of ours is not usually a wise approach.
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A change in global temperature next year will not change the fact that it didn’t change in 16 years. Not mentioning static temperature while others propose draconian government intrusion based on alleged temperature increase is a symptom of Republican Disease.
As delegates at Doha contemplated how to divvy up the world, because the world has a fever, Lord Monckton’s pointing out that there is no fever is the absolute correct thing to say.
Telling him to leave town because he commandeered a microphone is not an unreasonable reaction. Reports saying he is being deported seem an exaggeration. He was not bum-rushed to the airport or border. His UN credential was taken, and he was given 24 hours to leave town, NOT in custody of the police. That is not deportation in my dictionary.
Michael J Alexander says:
December 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm
If you’re a skeptic, you add to the knowledge base of greenhouse gas and it’s effect on the global climate by presenting facts in an appropriate fashion. This does little to further the skeptics side of the argument.
Lord Monckton would have been only too happy to add to the woefully-inadequate and misinformed knowledge base of the attendees of the climate circus at Doha, if an opportunity to do so were offered. Sadly, it was not. What you, and other concern trolls with your tiresome “stick to the science” objections completely miss is the fact that this is as much about the political side as it is about the science. As a matter of fact, on the political front, the CAGW behemoth still has the upper hand, making it extremely difficult for the Skeptics’ side to even be heard. What Monckton accomplished there was to make a mockery of the proceedings there, by interjecting one single truth amongst a flood of propaganda and lies. It was an act of bravery, and it was a slap in the face of all Warmist Believers/climate bedwetters, and all those riding the Great Warmist Gravy Train.
Once long time ago the Arabs were great scientists, numbers, algebra, mathematics, astronomy etc. ……
Obviously presiding doesn’t know difference between
AlGorithm and AlGore.
They must be so dumb to deport him.
Lord Monckton is not one to miss out on an opportunity to take the media spotlight out of Doha and use it as evidence that these people are not even prepared to discuss anything, will not acknowledge empirical evidence and actually resort to bullying tactics to suppress any form if dissent.
Youtube of Monckton’s hilarious COP-18 stunt
P.s.
Brief clarification for any of the AGWs who might be a bit confused by my post above:
AlGorithms is a collection of pronouncements by AlGore.
Way to go, your Lordship..!
As regards the standard of attendees at the Doha conference, the video of the lady ‘selling’ CO2 masks (and getting a fair number of takers) says it all…
I understand that the conference venue is UN territory, “temporarily excised” from Qatar for the term of the conference. (If that weren’t the case, the conference is quite likely to be very “difficult” for women.) Having UN credentials yanked means that one cannot enter the venue and is therefore subject to Qatar’s immigration laws which perhaps allow very limited stays for “transit”, unless Lord Monckton has applied for e.g. a tourist visa.
Bruce Cobb:
re your post at December 7, 2012 at 5:29 am.
Seconded!
Richard