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Essay by Eric Worrall
The private jets will fly climate delegates to the center of the world’s largest source of industrial CO2, to congratulate China on their emissions reduction progress?
China eyes bid to host 2028 U.N. climate talks
AFP-JIJI
Aug 22, 2026WASHINGTON – China is mulling a bid to host U.N. climate talks in 2028, two sources familiar with the matter said Friday, as it seeks to burnish its reputation as a leader in the fight against global warming.
Beijing has not yet made a final decision regarding the proposal for the COP33 summit, both sources said, nor is there a clear timeline for doing so. The host does not have to be decided this year.
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The 2028 summit falls to the Asia-Pacific.
In April, India withdrew its offer to host COP33 without specifying a reason. South Korea has previously expressed interest.
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China has in recent years positioned itself as a counterweight to the United States.
…Hosting U.N. climate talks could thus be an opportunity for China to boost its credentials as a climate leader.
…But hosting the gathering could also cast an unwelcome spotlight on China, which, with its population of 1.4 billion and massive manufacturing industry, is the world’s biggest greenhouse emitter, followed by the United States, India and the European Union.
…The summit would likely fall days after the U.S. presidential election to replace Trump.
Read more: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/environment/2026/08/22/climate-change/china-host-2028-un-climate-talks/
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The obvious decision point for China on whether to host COP33 is whether the Democrats do well in the midterms. In my opinion China would love for an over apologising Democrat US delegation to come crawling to a Chinese hosted COP, like a supplicant nation begging the emperor for forgiveness for past offences while attending the court of the Middle Kingdom.
But China might also pull back from hosting if COP31 turns into the utter disarray we all expect it to be.
Given India has already indicated they are not interested in COP33, and China is not sure if they want it, there is a real question of which Asia Pacific Nation would host COP33 if China turns it down.
The current Australian administration would love to host the conference, but for most of Europe and the USA, Australia is a 23 hour flight away, and nobody wants to travel that far.
For some the distance would be really hard. I mean think about poor Greta Thunberg. If Australia hosts COP33. It would take her the best part of a year to sail to Australia from Sweden or her second home in Israel. She would have to pass through pirate infested straits, crocodile infested tropical islands, risk exposure to Malaria, Dengue, and weeks of exposure to blazing tropical UV while crossing the equator, which rarely works out well for people with Nordic ancestors. She would have to choose between risking kidnap by Somali or Houthi pirates after sailing through the Suez Canal, or chancing the ferocious storms around the Cape of Good Hope or even worse, the Drake Passage. She might never arrive.
Of corse there is a small but delicious possibility there will be no COP33 conference to host. With India edging towards the exit door, we need just one or two major emitters to follow the USA into boycotting the event. If all the big players boycott future COPs, there just wouldn’t be any point.
Australia’s Climate Minister Chris Bowen is our secret agent of destruction to achieve the end of COP, our Aussie COP wrecking ball. As “President of Negotiations” for COP31 in Turkey, his contribution to date has been wasting lots of taxpayer money in a flurry of non-activity, and a bungled Fiji climate conference, which failed to attract significant attendance after his office managed to offend everyone important who might have shown their faces. Time for you to get busy Mr Bowen, there is a lot more work for you to do before the big event in Turkey.
If they do host it will be an exercise in “do as I say, not as I do”.
Will they have conference tours of the gulags in western China? How about tours of the large arrays of coal fired power plants supporting energy intensive production of half the world’s silicon ingot? Surely there will be rides on the Chinese unit trains to Europe with gulag-produced EV supply chains and other goods?
Chinese Coal Production
Year Raw Coal Production (Billion Metric Tons) Primary Growth Driver
1980 0.62 State-planned industrialization and early rural village mines
1985 0.87 Rapid growth of Township and Village Enterprises (TVE) mining
1990 1.08 Industrial power expansion and heavy industry demand
1995 1.36 Peak unregulated small-mine output prior to consolidation
2000 1.38 State-mandated mine closures for safety and market stabilization
2005 2.35 WTO accession boom and surge in thermal power generation
2010 3.24 Post-2008 economic stimulus and massive infrastructure buildout
2015 3.75 Supply-side structural reforms and capacity reduction targets
2020 3.90 Modernization and concentration into large-scale western mega-mines
2025 4.66 Strategic emphasis on energy security and domestic supply buffers
China accounts for over half of total global coal production, with its share steadily rising above 50% over the past several years.
So China has reduced its Co2 output in the last 5 years by increasing coal production more than it did during thewhole previous decade.
An increase bigger than the overall production of 1980.
Seems some Co2 is more equal.
You left out ‘up is down’ in troll speak.
GDS
What, you feel sorry for Hansen and Greta? Wrong fairy tale.
Whatever happened to Greta?
I stopped reading anything about her years ago.
(along with most of the world’s adults I suspect).
Did she ever manage to finish grade 12 high school?
Naw, she already knew more than everybody else, no need for more schooling when she could be raising
awarenessfunds.What happened?
Everyone with half a braincell knew that her carrier was over the moment she dared to criticize your genocidal owner state.
The 3rd rail for politicians, journalists and even astroturfed Messiahs.
Where is the translate button for that?
Was her carrier battery powered or sail? I suspect it must have been sail which would explain why it went over.
bwahahaha
Makes you eligible for the catnip list.
How can I hate a cartoon character?
Glycogen Storage Disease
Great Debater Syndrome
Gramin Dak Sevak
Lead-in sentence of the AFP-JIJI press release in the above article:
“China is mulling a bid to host U.N. climate talks in 2028, two sources familiar with the matter said Friday, as it seeks to burnish its reputation as a leader in the fight against global warming.”
What a laugher! What “reputation” does China/the CCP have for “fighting” against global warming???
From Google’s AI bot:
China’s “carbon dioxide emissions in 2025 were approximately 11.0 billion tonnes, representing as increase of roughly 76% compared to the roughly 6.2 billion tonnes recorded in 2005 . . . Since 2005, China has commissioned hundreds of domestic coal power plants, adding over 900 gigawatts of capacity. As of mid-2025, China has roughly 1,195 operational coal power plants.”
I have every expectation that so many climate change-dependents will go along with this farce.
Good grief!
Polishing a turd never shines it up.
But it makes it clean.
Clean or green?
I heard this from a navy aviator – “Polishing a turd does nothing but make it clean”
I heard that you can never polish one. Although prehistoric ones… “maybe”.
There’s probably a youtube of someone demonstrating how to do that, but I won’t ever be a viewer 🙁
I saw a youtube recently about about someone who collected moose turds (REALLY big rabbit turds) and fashioned them into “sculptures”. UGH! At best, nice looking crap, but still crap.
I burned dry cow pies in a little campfire once because I read one time in a story that you could do it. I can vouch for two things: you can and it needs to be really DRY.
Polishing a turd works if you first wrap it in gold.
Better to sprinkle it with glitter.. Attracts more leftists then !
The simpler method is to give it to the UN and leave them to it…..
It’s Climate Change, not Global Warming.
A rose by any other name…. /sarc
I put forward Milibands second kitchen as host, wrong part of the globe but right amount of space for expected number of attendees and a raving climate lunatic as host.
Probably won’t happen, but it would be kinda like how Nazi Germany hosted the 1936 Olympics.
+20
We know what happened to people of a certain religious faith in Germany around 1940. I wonder how a people of particular faith will be treated by the Chinese if history repeats a century on.
Well, we have clear and current evidence of what’s to happen: just look at the CCP’s persecution of the Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities within their borders.
China continues to play the western Gweilo climate retards off a break.
Would be hilarious to follow if only the Gweilo climate retards couldn’t use taxpayers’ $$$$s to indulge their fantasies.
China even offered to help Australia revive manufacturing powered by Chinese renewables.
Only if Australia agreed to continue selling coal to China at a discount though.
The alternative is for Australia to become a Chinese Province. Work in progress to achieve this option can be seen in any Australian city, the demographic reality of change is very obvious.
Suggest Article for you Eric
The collapse of current GCMs is ramping up. The weather modelling space is now being driven by big tech.
Google DeepMind WeatherNext2
Jua EPT-2
ECMWF AIFS
Google Graphcast
Microsoft Aurora
NVIDIA Earth
Zephyrus
The Neural Network based models are roughly twice as skillful as coupled GCMs. The difference is that GCMs are based on wrong assumptions whereas the NN based models make no assumptions. They are trained on data and then given basic inputs to achieve a forecast. Obviously NVIDIA cannot lose here because their hardware underpins the capability of large NNs. I saw benchmarks where NVIDIA’s basic H200 GPU is 300 times faster on FP16 tasks than high end desktops. And they have no current equal in price performance for NN based computing.
It is only a matter of time before these tech giants move into climate prediction. Imagine how surprised they will be when their models have a CO2 knob that does nothing. All current coupled GCMs use an assumed forcing, which bears no relationship to any empirical observation in the climate system.
I expect the tech giants will have representation at the upcoming COPS. NVIDIA had representation at an ACCESS Earth System conference I attended this week.
There is a considerable focus on power consumption in NN processing. Energy is currently about 40% of the total cost, including capital, of running data centres. Computer science is rattling the climate science cage and a lot of dross is falling out. Computer science is now very energy intensive.
Thanks for the heads up. It’s a fascinating space, if anyone breaks ground on kicking over the apple cart it will be Musk’s AI.
I think NVIDIA is better focused and have the foundational expertise apart from power generation. The best AI data centres will run on Latrobe Valley coal not far from the Latrobe Valley.
One thing I will tell gifted teenagers in any field. Look into the NVIDIA intern program.
One thing I will tell NVIDIA executives. Latrobe Valley coal is the lowest cost fuel in the world and will remain so for the next 50 years.
My middle son was an avid gamer and used NVIDIA GPUs in the 1990s and 2000s. ( I was staggered at the proportion of his meagre student income and allowance he spent on GPUs then) Once they were starting to produce realistic video imaging in real time he thought they were on to something. That was well before they pivoted to NNs a decade ago. That son is now a physician and can see some possibility for NNs in medicine but not quite in the frame of mind to get out of hospitals.
I am a layman when it comes to computers. I use them and I read widely about the latest developments. That is as far as my knowledge goes.
In consequence, I ask this simple question. If we are so close to AI self awareness or consciousness, the term often used, then why can’t it be asked to interrogate the scores of computer models and their outputs?
It should not take Claude or Nvidia or ChatGPT or whichever, more than a few hours of analysis to identify where the input errors are and what are the missing inputs that cause the models to be so hopelessly wrong?
If AI is going to be the dominant future, good or bad or simply existential (for humanity), it might at least serve us all in our brief time ahead and reveal the flaws in UN climate modelling.
I have to include the suspicion that Musk will not be kicking it over for the sake of kicking it over. The other possibility is he suspects there is money to be found.
Intended as a neutral comment.
“All current coupled GCMs use an assumed forcing” = the Achilles heal of climate modeling.
Their “forcings” are wrong
Their “atmospheric physics” is wrong.
Their “hindcast” temperature data is a complete joke.
Nothing more than low-end imagination driven “sim” type computer games
And, of course, we all know how well those forecasts have worked out. /sarc
Hint, here’s the litmus test for you: if NNs were so “smart” about predicting the future based on the past, there should be several hundred people, at least, that have become trillionaires from using NNs to play the stock market.
Why wouldn’t Communist China host a COP?
COP’s have always been good for them.
From Google’s AI bot:
“China has never hosted a UN climate change conference (UNFCCC COP).”
I agree with most of the posters here. Chinas participation is simply for greens to feel good while they forge ahead with fossil fuels to run their economy.
The joke re Greta caught my eye especially about sailing around the horn of Africa. I knew a female dentist who had a practice in Brentwood Calif. She retired and she and her husband also retired bought a sailboat to sail that route around the Horn. Somali pirates; Governer of Minn and Illian Omar both supporters of Somalis and I infer pirates (sarc)) were boarded and killed by those wonderful people. I know perhaps too political for WUWT/
The British empire solved piracy in that region. They figured out who was supporting the pirates, sent an armada to level the pirate towns, then marched in, captured and publicly executed the town leaders and anyone else involved. Repeat every 20 years when the new generation grows up and thinks they can do better.
I think the Xi would set it up as a sale for their solar panels.
Quick get them now before we harvest all the organs from our slave labor.
Greta wouldn’t go to China because she wouldn’t be able to see because of all that pesky CO2 blocking her view.
Bowen
Turkey
An apt description
St Greta has moved on from being a climate worrier to being a professional protest-hopper who’s now worried the Middle East isn’t melting fast enough
She occasionally still does something climate, possibly keeping the door open in case her other interests fail.
Word on the street is that she still spends quite a bit of time polishing the medal from her Right Livelihood Award in 2019, which is widely referred to as an “Alternative Nobel Prize”.