Monckton gets evicted from Doha COP18 conference

James Abbott says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:18 pm

By the way, whats a shill ?

I’d say “Look it up on the Internet,” but that didn’t help in your 30-yr investigation of Global Warming. Stick with Gunga Din’s explanation.

FrankK says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Chris B says:
December 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm
climatetruthinitiative says:
December 6, 2012 at 11:49 am
The Doha conference and all the previous conferences are like a conflab of a church. Roman Catholics would not be happy……..
I’m not aware that Roman Catholics are interested in a Global Taxation of CO2 emissions or any other inducement or imposition on non-members. Bad analogy based on bigotry.
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Not quite Chris B, Cardinal Pell the Australian Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church
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It appears Cardinal Pell does not endorse the AGW agenda of Global Carbon Taxation.
From Wiki:
Responding to the Anglican bishop and environmentalist George Browning, who told the Anglican Church of Australia’s general synod that Pell was out of touch with the Catholic Church as well as with the general community,[29] Pell stated:[30]
“Radical environmentalists are more than up to the task of moralising their own agenda and imposing it on people through fear. They don’t need church leaders to help them with this, although it is a very effective way of further muting Christian witness. Church leaders in particular should be allergic to nonsense….. I am certainly sceptical about extravagant claims of impending man-made climatic catastrophes. Uncertainties on climate change abound … my task as a Christian leader is to engage with reality, to contribute to debate on important issues, to open people’s minds, and to point out when the emperor is wearing few or no clothes.”

John,
OOPS! Please ignore my last comment, I had both the graphs that you and Werner Brozek posted in two different tabs in my browser, and confused his with yours when I wrote that comment! (note to mods: would you be so kind as to remove the comment?) [Reply: OK, hope I got the right one. -ModE]
I actually do agree with you that it is hard to believe there is a lack of warming from looking at the graph you posted. I am currently fiddling with the parameters to generate my own graphs on that site, and you are indeed correct that it is hard to discern a halt in the warming trend.
However, I would also like to state that, given the continuous rise of carbon dioxide concentrations over the period in question, one might expect that temperatures would have continued to rise at a rate that is complimentary to the rate of carbon dioxide emissions…. and not level off over the last decade like they have!

@ur momisugly James Abbott who says:
Frank K says (in response to Monckton’s comment that
“They (all those concerned about climate change) are about to impose a communist world government on the world”
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Well, Monckton was right, and it’s happening here in the U.S.
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Seriously ? The US Government is Communist ? Do you (or Monckton) actually know what a Communist Government looks like ?
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I do know what a Communist government looks like. I didn’t have to research it, I lived in Moscow during the transition from communism to a quasi democracy. What collectivism does to the human spirit and mind is more than criminal. The nationalizing of banks, the nationalizing of the auto industry, the cultivation of dependence on government, privileges to the leaders but not the people, broke governments not paying pensioners, everyone going to university and becoming “engineers” becasue they were not skilled enough to be called anything else, “research” where the government agenda dictats the results, government health care not having medicines, equipment, facilities because of lack of funds—people in a perpetual state of not believing what their government says and knowing that the “Pravda” (state newspaper) which means truth was anything but…
Oh wait, was I talking about Russia or us?
James, you know not of what you speak. Collectivism has a beginning and the beginning is us.

An extra dose of Karl Popper for good measure: http://guscost.com/2012/12/06/falsifiability/

Its a very good life for the green taliban/regime stooge delegates, travel round the world expenses paid and able to feel important saving the planet. It must be a boost to the ego of these people, of course they are not going to welcome anyone or anything that pollutes the purity of their cause or threatens their carefully fabricated self importance and nurtured standing as champions of the planet. Say the right words and believe/repeat the correct slogans, and even if they sometimes have doubts the mechanism to suppress individual doubt is self interest and you can always rely on that.
The Soviet bloc pretend nations had tens of thousands of these self trained self censoring unthinking stooges hanging around fake parliaments and fake trade unions and fake peace conferences. It was a major industry back in the USSR, learn the right tricks and you got extra everything when that little extra meant a great deal, one step up from the average nobody and all you had to do was learn the script. If there is one defining characteristic that the participants in these travelling circuses share it is a willingness to say and believe whatever is required to keep their circus funded and on the road. Just a hop skip and jump to a new USSR.

Just amazing the preliminary reports that are emerging from another 2 weeks of UN negotiations in Doha. They really are making fantastic progress/sarc – just requires a couple of years of further meetings. For example: Ad Hoc Working Group on Long-term Cooperative Action under the Convention
http://www3.unog.ch/dohaclimatechange/sites/default/files/FCCC_AWGLCA_2012_L.0004_ENG.pdf
Recalling the principles, provisions and commitments set forth in the Convention, in particular its Articles 2, 3 and 4,
Also recalling decisions 1/CP.13, 1/CP.16, 1/CP.17 and 2/CP.17,
1. Decides that Parties will urgently work towards the deep reduction in global greenhouse gas emissions required to hold the increase in global average temperature below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to attain a global peaking of global greenhouse gas emissions as soon as possible, consistent with science and as documented in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, reaffirming that the time frame for peaking will be longer in developing countries;
2. Also decides that Parties’ efforts should be undertaken on the basis of equity and common but differentiated responsibilities and respective capabilities, and the provision of finance, technology transfer and capacity-building to developing countries in order to support their mitigation and adaptation actions under the Convention, and take into account the imperatives of equitable access to sustainable development, the survival of countries and protecting the integrity of Mother Earth;
Draft decision text on key finance issues.
Acknowledging the efforts in the delivery of fast-start finance by developed country Parties to fulfill their collective commitment of USD 30 billion and calling for its full disbursement in an expedite manner,
Reaffirming that developed country Parties commit, in the context of meaningful mitigation actions and transparency on implementation, to a goal of mobilizing jointly USD 100 billion per year by 2020 to address the needs of developing countries, and that funds provided to developing country Parties may come from a wide variety of sources, public and private, bilateral and multilateral, including alternative sources;
1. Decides to continue the work programme on long-term finance during 2013 to contribute to the ongoing efforts to scale up mobilization of climate finance to USD 100 billion per year by 2020. The work programme will also consider how to enhance enabling environments and policy frameworks to facilitate the mobilization and effective deployment of climate finance in developing countries. The work programme will report to the Conference of the Parties at its nineteenth session;
2. Stresses the need for continued cooperation and dialogue on long-term finance, and in this regard looks forward to the implementation of the work programme of the Standing Committee, including the creation of a climate finance forum that will enable all Parties and stakeholders to continue the practical interchange of ideas initiated in the work programme on long-term finance, with a view to promoting the scaling-up of climate finance through 2020;
3. Acknowledges the pledges and announcements made by several developed country Parties on the continuation of climate finance post 2012, urging all developed country Parties to make firm commitments to provide scaled up climate finance beyond 2012, noting that Parties will continue to make efforts to enhance enabling environments;
4. Invites developed country Parties to submit, by the nineteenth session of the Conference of the Parties, their viable pathways for mobilizing and scaling up the provision of climate finance from 2012 levels to at least USD 100 billion per year by 2020;
Further draft decisions
http://unfccc.int/files/documentation/submissions_from_parties/adp/application/pdf/draftadp36dec1830.pdf
Recalling decision 1/CP.17, which recognized that climate change presents an urgent and potentially irreversible threat to human societies and the planet and thus requires to be urgently addressed by all Parties, and acknowledged that the global nature of climate change calls for the widest possible cooperation by all countries and their participation in effective and appropriate international response, with a view to accelerating the reduction of global greenhouse gas emissions, noted with grave concern the significant gap between the aggregate effect of Parties’ mitigation pledges in terms of global annual emissions reductions of greenhouse gases by 2020 and aggregate emission pathways consistent with having a likely chance of holding the increase in global average temperature below 2°C or 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels, and recognized that fulfilling the ultimate objective of the Convention will require strengthening of the multilateral, rules-based regime under the Convention,
Determined to adopt a protocol, another legal instrument or an agreed outcome with legal force under the Convention applicable to all Parties (hereinafter referred to as “the 2015 agreement”) at its twenty-first session, due to be held from Wednesday 2 December to Sunday, 13 December 2015, and for it to come into effect and be implemented from 2020;
So we are all very very busy, and with only two more years of meetings/junkets and $100 billion or so we will save the planet.
And as for Kyoto:
Ad Hoc Working Group on Further Commitments for Annex I Parties under the Kyoto Protocol
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2012/awg17/eng/l03r01.pdf
It seems there is only Australia and New Zealand and the EU left:
In a communication dated 10 December 2010, Japan indicated that it does not have any intention to be under obligation of the second commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol after 2012.
15 In a communication dated 8 December 2010 that was received by the secretariat on 9 December 2010, the Russian Federation indicated that it does not intend to assume a quantitative emission limitation or reduction commitment for the second commitment period.
Publisher’s notes:
a On 15 December 2011, the Depositary received written notification of Canada’s withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol. This action will become effective for Canada on 15 December 2012.

There is political spin being pushed around the IPCC at the moment. There seems to be an initiative to reposition the IPCC as “the voice of reason” Hence some alarmist/warmist individuals are starting to claim the IPCC have underestimated the effects of AGW, & generally criticizing the IPCC as being too soft. This is the narrative we will be hearing over the next few months. It’s to try & influence public opinion that the IPCC is a more conservative body than it actually is. All politics. Certainly does not mean the IPCC has changed in the slightest. O/T I know, but I just wanted people to be aware of this change in the warmists narrative.

“In the 16 years we have been coming to these conferences, there has been no global warming,”
Fantastic!

James Abbott why don’t you debate Lord Monckton, in fact why don’t all you “warmists” take him on at once. Wait, I will be right back, ran out of popcorn.

Monckton committed the sin of disturbing their warm fuzzy feeling about the end of the world.

Were it not for Lord Monckton, I would not have known about the UN conference in Doha. So, the UN is still doing these? I thought it all went haywire after Climategate and the Copenhagen fiasco.
Oh Well. Three cheers for Monckton, he is a riot!!!!

Please-please don’t tell me you cannot perfectly see why that happened. What was he doing there? You get evicted like that from any townhall meeting for that, EVEN without mentioning that there has been no global warming for 16 years.