Monckton gets evicted from Doha COP18 conference

Guess they just can’t handle (or recognize) the truth.

Snort. 🙂

Funny stunt. However, he had to expect that outcome.

This could actualy backfire a bit. Until now, no one in the entire world even knew that there was a climat summit in Doha. But this story is hitting the MSM, and people may take notice. Also, doesn’t really help his credibility.

Way to go, Lord Monckton! Good on you. Let’s hope that at least some in that crowd actually dare to wonder and maybe even – shock – question. I know, I know, too much to hope for, but that ripple of confusion is a start. Head scratching comes next. Some might dare to peek at real data (not that they would ever tell anyone, of course). Monckton is a fantastic human being. I love his strength of spirit.

Censorship of opposing scientific views is essential to keep the idiocracy up and running.
Lord Monckton’s small rebellion caused me to click on Climate Depot, something I haven’t done in a long time. Anyone else who did the same thing as a result of this story would see plenty of news and information contradicting the UN climate alarmist crowd.
So kudos to Lord Monckton. Publicity is good. This was almost as entertaining as his parachute landing. ☺

Anthony: Now that the “Sea Ice Substantially Disappears” clock has run out, can we get a clock counting up “Time without warming?” Would love to see that 16 years as it grows…

Fantastic news that he was thrown out and booed. It was a forum for the grown ups. Not for right wing lobbyists protecting funding for conservatives. No doubt the anti vaccers also get outraged at their chosen one getting booted out of science forums, or intelligent design nutters getting booted out of biology or geology discussions. There is a place for nutters pushing private agendas, just not in science.

This is what happens when you tell people the inconvenient truth. What’s to boo? Did he lie? They say the truth hurts and here it was illustrated.

Leave it to W S Burroughs………

Worth every character of a tweet:
#cop18 “In the 16 years we have been coming to these conferences, there has been no global warming” hooray for #Monckton Hero #climatechange

So if we adopt their methods of ‘science with no dispute’ I guess we should give up the airplane, space flight and evolution; after all, they were all regarded as ‘impossible’ by consensus.

Well done that Viscount. Speaking truth to power!

Mind you, Kurt, Monckton would NOT want himself to end up in a Qatari prison. Another cause to ponder the UNFCCC choice of Qatar as a venue….their human rights record is likely not squeaky clean.

climatetruthinitiative says:
December 6, 2012 at 11:49 am
The Doha conference and all the previous conferences are like a conflab of a church. Roman Catholics would not be happy……..
I’m not aware that Roman Catholics are interested in a Global Taxation of CO2 emmissions or any other inducement or imposition on non-members. Bad analogy based on bigotry.

It is up on Drudge, which means that if it has not gone viral, it soon will. Anthony may have the most viewed climate website, but it still pales in comparison to what Drudge delivers. I think that Lord Monkton has done exactly the right thing at the right time to shine a light on what is going on at Doha. It is the sort of publicity that is needed in the absence of competent media coverage.

Mods,
For a second I thought I was reading HuffPo. It is really disappointing to read comments like brians356 above. On a quality blog like this, I expect this kind of juvenile talk to be filtered out. You diminish the quality of your site by allowing it.
Ock
[Reply: WUWT moderates with a light touch, and we don’t censor like most of the alarmist blogs do. Readers can make up their own minds about the value of comments, and critically respond if they like. — mod.]
[Reply: Had to look up the comment. Not seeing an issue. Play on words instead of an attack. Humor instead of anger. I’d let it through. ( A couple of the others were more rude and I’d have left them for a more experienced hand to decide…) -ModE ]

Phil M says:
December 6, 2012 at 11:43 am
Walks on mirrors.

What a jerk. There are standards of civil behavior.
Since the science is clear – there is no reason to stoop to the “activist” level.
Since the above link is paywalled, might I suggest a well written piece by Monckton of Arabia. Writing articles like this is the way to deal with the climate deniers (ie, those who accept the UN IPCC reports and deny the science), not getting thrown out of the proceedings.

Thanks for saying exactly what I would have said Lord Monkton! It takes a real man to stand up in the midst of liars and fools and thieves stealing from nations for their own personal idiocy. Truth speaks in their midst and not one of them had the courage to demand he be allowed to speak. That is what courage is all about. Thank you, sir! You have my respect!
Mike, truth isn’t very welcome in your world, is it buddy? I pity you.

climatetruthinitiative says:

December 6, 2012 at 11:49 am
The Doha conference and all the previous conferences are like a conflab of a church. Roman Catholics would not be happy if someone suddenly told the gathering that there is nothing to support a belief in the virgin birth or transsubstantiation, and they would react in exactly the same way as did the delegates to the Doha conference, with booing, eviction, etc. It just goes to show that those at both types of conference are “true believers” who are not to be dissuaded from their beliefs.

Tell me when the Catholic Church plans on imposing a global tax and I’ll get worried about that religion.

Phil M says:
“Fantastic news that he was thrown out and booed. It was a forum for the grown ups. “
Compare with Heartland’s reception of Dr. Scott Denning:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/20/a-warmist-scientist-embraces-the-heartland-conference/
Who’s acting like adults?

Gamecock @ December 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm.
Look, I love cherries too. I used to love going down the up escalator when I was a kid too. Sensible people don’t buy into Monkton argument. It hasnt warmed in 16 years? OMG, you mean its got that high and stayed there? Yikes!

Pussy Riot upsets one overbearing establishment by protesting in the heart of their Church, Monckton upsets another by protesting in the heart of theirs. Good for him!
(Er, I’m not sure he would approve of this analogy.)

Phil M,
The temperature is “high” only because you are cherry-picking by measuring the recovery from the Little Ice Age — one of the coldest episodes of the entire 10,000 year Holocene. But the planet has been quite a bit warmer over the past 10,000 years, when CO2 levels were very low. How does that fit into your “carbon” belief system?
Lord Monckton is right. Global warming stopped in the 1990’s. That pretty much destroys your alarmist narrative, doesn’t it? The truth is your enemy, and it is the enemy of the Doha cult.

@ climatetruthinitiative
You bring up an interesting analogy with transubstantiation which like CAGW is not falsifiable. The blood and wine is supposedly changed but the change is not detectable through the senses. CAGW has the similar issue of not being observable.

Monckton quietly slipped into the seat reserved for the delegation of Myanmar

Why wasn’t the delegation from Myanmar in its seat to hear the president’s assessment?
I think we should be told.

And he was so well-dressed for the occasion too.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/caption-competition-monckton-at-the-doh-ha-climate-circus/

This was expected. But in the final analysis it won’t matter. I have long been a contrarian, stating without equivocation that the Sun is responsible for global warming since 1980. The global warming regime will come to an end, according to my astrometeorological calculations, in 2017 and usher in a new, and very threatening climate change – Global Cooling.
Doha 2012 is all about one thing and one thing only – MONEY.
Even the United Nations former climate leader, Yvo de Boer, said that it was “completely unrealistic” for developing nations to ask and receive $60 billion in funding for ‘global warming climate adaptation.’ which is bogus from start to finish.
De Boer, who was the leader the UN’s climate negotiations (2006-2010) recently told the Guardian newspaper about the $60 billion, – “It’s not going to happen, with developed countries in the financial state they’re in. We need to be realistic.”
Money is the essential matter issue at Doha, scheduled to end on Friday, Dec. 7, 2012. The main problem is that the developing nations disagree over how to cut greenhouse gas emissions to meet the bogus “scientific warnings” of the threat of global warming. The poorer nations want major industrialized countries to agree to give them $60 billion at Doha, saying that it’s “interim” financing.
They claim that they need the $60 billion because the poor nations have already pledged about $30 billion of what’s called “fast-start money” by year’s end. They add that they have also agreed to guarantee flows of $100 billion a year by 2020 despite the fact that there is zilch agreement (or logic for that matter) on just how to reach that $100 billion.
Here’s what I say: It’s all a LIE. You see, despite all the high and mighty talk of throwing around tens of billions to poorer nations to cap their carbon emissions; asking these billions from industrialized nations – in a major global economic crisis – is NOT going to happen.
Doha will turn out to be a bust – promises made – but none kept.
Sure, there will be promises, promises, but it’s all a load of crap anyhow. Just like ‘man-made global warming.’ A total lie that has been and remains a global ponzi scheme from start to finish.
Here’s the truth for those who are interested:
Climate science has been restricted to just a few schools of thought: – 1) climate statistical trends 2) atmospheric circulation (short-range/near-term meteorology) and 3) global thermal energy distribution.
Most people don’t know that the study of climate change impact on world populations began only relatively recently between historians, social scientists and climatologists.
For instance, classical climatology was mainly concerned with the mere achieving of climate evidence. It really was not until 1968 when questions were seriously taken into account to define climate casual relationships.
Yet, nearly 45 years later, climatologists are no nearer to provide even seasonal forecasting; so the debate on what causes ‘global warming’ has been relegated to a ideological economic/political cadre that has poisoned climate science with their madness.
As a astrometeorologist I know that astronomic forces are the causes of all climate activity, change and weather on Earth. I forecasted numerous storms by astronomic climate and weather methodology, among them, the 2009-2011 ENSO with both El Nino and La Nina; the Fukushima earthquake; the 2012 Drought and the full moon superstorm Sandy to name just a few.
I have also forecasted the coming arrival of a new climate regime – global cooling – which is much WORSE than global warming could ever be.
One of the baffling things to me is how those who attempt to forecast and explain the mechanisms that force our world’s climate can blatantly discount the Sun and planets – all which live in space – including our Earth.
Anyhow, what really has happened is that a only finite number of people are truly involved in honest climate research.
The great remaining majority – including those attending Doha – are ideological careerists and ‘activists’ who do not and cannot forecast the weather, much less the longer-range climate.
The U.S., the major leading scientific nation on our planet, still has but limited capability to accurately predict climate change conditions in advance – this, despite huge amounts of money that has been given to careerists and consumed over the last 20-30 years by outlandish ideologues who are unable to forecast even seasonal climate, much less the climate of the next 30 years.
Anthony Watts and many members here have been sounding the alarm over the AGW bullshit.
We know that those AGW careerists and the political hacks in governments are in it only for ego – and most of all – the free money. They have bought into the lie of man-made climate change: which simply CANNOT occur on Earth because of the laws of physics say so.
That means anthropogenic global warming is an impossibility.
But don’t let the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics stop the liars, cheats and AGW whores who have wasted resources and very valuable years spent on multi-million dollar super-computers and that model climate fantasies but cannot accurate forecast next month’s weather while the AGW careerist ideologues fly around the world to exotic and expensive locations getting fat off the general public’s hard-earned money spouting the lie of anthropogenic global warming.
Those scientists who bought, hook, line and sinker in denying the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics while being complicit in propagating to the general public, governments, students and schoolchildren the outright lie of anthropogenic global warming are criminals. These are crimes worth punishing with outright dismissal and investigations into stealing money and falsifying scientific data for personal and professional gain.
The AGW propaganda within your precious scientific community has caused a serious loss of credibility to climate science.
Now, much of the public, thanks to those here on WUWT seriously have begin to question ‘man-made global warming.’ Of course Climategate 1 and Climategate 2 didn’t hurt opening up those dark dank AGW basement doors to more sunshine either.
Scientists who have been engaged in personal/professional warfare in order to discredit those who do not fall into their AGW ideological-propaganda line are not to be trusted. What they are practicing is not Science.
Any no amount of ‘credentials’ or journal ‘peer-reviewed’ ideological papers posing as ‘science’ will alter the laws of physics that govern our world.
I will now tell you what will happen next and it is the truth according to my astrometeorological analysis of the climate years and decades to come. Please bear with me:
As we approach the end of the 36-year (1980-2016) solar-caused phase of global warming (which was a good thing) we are nearing the beginning of a new climate regime – Global Cooling (a bad thing.)
All the attention trying to make global warming a bad thing was nothing but a lie.
Global warming has always been good for the Earth but global cooling never has been. The demise of many former empires have come about, not from invading armies but from climate change to global cooling. That is the truth.
Under global cooling, which I have forecasted to begin at the end of this decade, last through the 2020s and peak in the 2030s; we will see the arrival of a new kind of neo-boreal age, that’s a ‘ice age.”
The worst of this era is a span of 36-years in length more or less (2017-2053) and means cooler temperatures, less retained sunlight because of reflection of radiated sunlight to Earth’s ice/snow covered surface back out into space; cold, wet blasting storms, also, extending drought with major crop losses, flooding, famine and ill public health leading to rising mortality rates.
It is not a pretty picture, global cooling.
The social, political and geopolitical impacts of solar-forced climate change is real, but the lies of ‘man-made climate change’ has wasted many years and resources to ideological bullshit rather than toward significant infrastructure buildup and preparation for global cooling.
This preparation is cost-effective. Even if I were wrong (and I am 110% certain that I am right) but even if global cooling did not arrive, the adjustments would be cost-effective because it is a far easier thing to deal with the shift to global cooling infrastructure than it is to believe in ‘global warming forever’ by gambling on the lie of AGW and then have a global cooling regime strike.
It will be the precious AGW conventional scientific community and their ideological AGW cadres and activists who are to blame, but something tells me that they will not say they are sorry but will stick their heads into the sand and pretend (just as they continue to do with the laws of physics now) that global cooling doesn’t exist.
But here’s the thing, the cold and wetter climate of global cooling will bite their AGW asses so hard, so blue and blue, that they will have no problem whatsoever in the years and decades to come in burning as much carbon sources as they possibly can to stay warm. Those poorer nations now trying to get their $60 billion at Doha will be screwed too. And you can’t eat money.
They will come to see, experience and know – that in the final analysis – when the very dangerous climate change to global cooling makes our global atmosphere wetter and colder and when they are hungry, getting sick and shivering from the biting cold – that the very last thing on their minds will be saving the world from anthropogenic global warming.
Here’s what they will do:
They will light up those precious carbon-emitting coals of their as quickly as they can, so that they are able to cook up their small meals, heat up their water and coffee to keep their behinds warm. They will not have any trouble whatsoever in burning as much carbon sources as possible, because they will know – and certainly feel – that it is essential to their very survival.
And they will pray – and pray very hard – for the return of global warming.
-Theodore White, astrometeorologist.Sci

Phil M
0.4C Plus or minus 0.2C and stayed there for 16 years is not warming! You are an absolute creXXXtino or have no science background whatsoever

Oh my, I found the next stop for Lord M.

Not pretty, but then fanatisim never is!
Max

the world needs more moncktons

“In the 16 years we have been coming to these conferences, there has been no global warming,”
No warming in 16 years, of course that is good news, the catatstrophists of course treat it as bad news, what an odd bunch.

You’d think everyone would be cheering at that news, wouldn’t you? Cheers of delight, tears of relief – “thank the lord (thank the gaia), we’re all going to live!”
What’s not to like? These guys are seriously weird. Anyone would think they actually enjoy the idea of thermageddon.

I have to admit at first glance I wasn’t sure this was a good move by Monckton, but after some thought I have to say: Bravo Lord Monckton! I think this might give a broader audience the sense of religious fervor among climate alarmists as opposed to being objective scientists. Imagine if someone stood up at a geology conference and proclaimed the world is only 6000 years old. He might get laughed at a bit but doubtful he would be booed and evicted. The difference being that geologist are secure in their conclusions based on the evidence, all the evidence not just a snippet of the evidence.

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What is telling, that because they boo’d, they knew exactly what CM was talking about. Their duplicity therefore knows no bounds, and any semblance that the CAGW movement is based on ‘science’ has just been thrown out. By their own mouths they have said it.

Lord Monckton had time for one sentence, and used EXACTLY the right sentence !
Well done , m’Lord !!!

Phil says:
‘Fantastic news that he was thrown out and booed. It was a forum for the grown ups. Not for right wing lobbyists protecting funding for conservatives. No doubt the anti vaccers also get outraged at their chosen one getting booted out of science forums…’
I must respectfully request that you, Phil, provide your definition of ‘grown up’ to me. I’ve not yet acquired your wisdom. From your own writing, however, even someone as uninformed as myself must assume that a ‘grown up’ is certainly not a ‘right wing lobbyist protecting funding for conservatives.’ Is a ‘grown up’ then a left wing lobbyist protecting funding for liberals? Please inform me. Clearly you have learned that a political belief is the standard by which we must judge maturity. And, obviously, that political belief must be one that mirrors your own. Because you must be a grown up.
Am I getting close? Just a teensy weensy little bit? It’s hard work for me to be grown up like you. But I’m trying. Honest. Really I am.

Lance says:
December 6, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Heartland conducts conferences and invites ‘alarmists’, and unfortunately, most don’t accept, but i believe 1 or 2 have come, and they were treated with respect for their view.
Go to the UN and speak against it and you are tossed out….
Yes indeed, the UN stands for what?
>Utter Nuts?

“Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety.” Havel

“It was a forum for the grown ups”
Gees, good thing that one turned up then.
Even if he did only get to say one sentence.

Dedicated to the rebel who outs “The Cause”…….

Thank you Lord Christopher Monckton.

Phil M:
You might care to peruse this graph and data set, which is from HADCRUT itself: that is to say it represents the data amassed by the believers in AGW for the official record. It demonstrates clearly that any warming in the last 16 years is neglibible and what little there was, flattened out early.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1997.25/trend/plot/rss/from:1997.0/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1997.25/plot/rss/from:1997.0/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1
The science is on record, and the good Lord Monckton is quite correct

I scrolled back up to read Theo White’s long contribution (which unfortunately double posted) but both have mysteriously vanished!
[Reply: Double posted, they were both removed. One is re-posted now. — mod.]

CAGW stated out a a legitimate scientific theory, just like Phlogiston or Lysenko genetics. It has been proven wrong, just as those scintific propositions were, but it now is a religious dogma by the left so it cannot be discarded, while they are in search of religious meaning to their empty lives.

“Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious.”
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.”
“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”
Geroge Orwell

Mike says: December 6, 2012 at 11:29 am
Phil M says: December 6, 2012 at 11:43 am
vasper85 says: December 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Others I may have missed or are just lurking,
Lord Monckton speaks for me. I don’t know him from Adam’s off ox but I thank God that there are men like him willing to take on the big CAGW monster and act. It isn’t about science anymore, if it ever was, it’s about a global mob bastardizing science to achieve a political and social end.
For some reason your reactions to this news brought to mind the following essay that I’m inclind to share in part because to me it defines you:
The psychologist Carl Jung in his examination of the rise of violent fascism in Germany as well as the collectivist surveillance state in communist Russia theorized that there is in fact a certain percentage of people in any given epoch that carry within them a latent ability to abandon conscience. That is to say, there is always hidden within a portion of the multitude an inborn potential for sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies. These tendencies remain dormant for many under most circumstances, but every once in a while a society falters to the point where such diseases of the soul are encouraged, and the monsters in millions are allowed to come out and play.
Is it possible that some men are more apt towards truth and freedom while others take more naturally to dominance and deceit? Perhaps. I find that under certain circumstances even the best human beings can make catastrophic errors in judgment. However, there is a difference between those who misstep in life, and those who savor destruction. For these people I reserve the label of the “statist thug”; a ghoul in common man’s drag just waiting for the opportunity to scrape out a spoonful of petty authority and assert his will over others. These folks are the day’s damned. And what’s worse; though they may have been born with a predisposition towards despotism, they still had a choice, and they chose villainy. They deserve no special treatment and no quarter from us.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1171-statist-thugs-and-the-rocks-they-crawl-out-from-under

Well done m’lord!
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
George Orwell:

Turning the air-conditioning up beforehand would have put him over the top.

I have an idea for Christopher: he should buy a hockey stick and burn it.

@chris B December 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm
My choice of the Roman Catholic church was based on the fact that they have the biggest (or best covered by news media) conferences and I chose trans-substantiation because it is a debatable bit of dogma that is well known even by non-Catholics. If other religions had such well-known beliefs I might well have chosen one of them instead. The fact remains, nevertheless, that AGW has so many earmarks of being a religion, and they do have the practice of large and regular gatherings.
IanM

At last, its becoming respectable to be British again, and to stand up for what you believe in.
well done “M”

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story

Ian H says ”
After a whole generation has passed no amount of adjustment of data is going to be enough to start the scam up again.”
Part of the reason for the leveling off of the temperature is because they ran of thing to adjust.
They keep trying though, but now, too many people are watching. 🙂

Thanks to Christopher Monckton there is voice for sanity out there. Thank The Lord!

Why does the climate skeptic community hold up Monckton as a hero ?
They should have let him chunter on at the conference because he is a reliable source of hyperbole, with the occasional barking nugget thrown in.
If he had said there had been a temperature standstill for about the last 10 years he would have sounded more credible, but he cannot help himself.
The Clerk of the Parliaments had to write to Monckton in July 2011 (again) to tell him to stop claiming he was a member of the House of Lords.
This is man who claimed in 2009 that
“They (all those concerned about climate change) are about to impose a communist world government on the world”

This could actualy backfire a bit. Until now, no one in the entire world even knew that there was a climat summit in Doha. But this story is hitting the MSM, and people may take notice. Also, doesn’t really help his credibility.
Agreed. He didn’t accomplish anything except look rather immature. If you’re a skeptic, you add to the knowledge base of greenhouse gas and it’s effect on the global climate by presenting facts in an appropriate fashion. This does little to further the skeptics side of the argument.

Max Hugoson:
According to Australian so-called ‘climate scientists’, your post at December 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm is a death threat. I suggest that you ask the Moderators for its withdrawal.
Richard
Richard, what a wonderful observation. Particularily in that I choose that video, as it clearly illustrated a STUNT MAN, being immolated, who walks away “unscathed”. I thought that would be rather equivalent to what would happen to Lord M. when they try to burn him at the stake!

Frank K says (in response to Monckton’s comment that
“They (all those concerned about climate change) are about to impose a communist world government on the world”
–
Well, Monckton was right, and it’s happening here in the U.S.
_
Seriously ? The US Government is Communist ? Do you (or Monckton) actually know what a Communist Government looks like ?
Also, whats the harmless trace gas you are referring to ? Is it the same one (CO2) that keeps the planet from being in a permanent ice age ?

IMHO too much is being made of this 16 year period.
This approach relies heavily on the assumption there is not another spate of warming in the near future.
The real issue is how much mankind might be contributing to recent warming, and what may be the ongoing and future effects of mankind’s future contributions. (IMHO again, respectively, I think very minor, and the system seems to be remarkably self regulating….)

Hello D Böehm
No, I’m happy to criticise anyone who makes rediculous claims on both sides of the argument. Monckton happens to be one of the most extreme examples.
I commented on this site back in the summer that some of the date specific arctic ice retreat predictions made a few years ago were poor.
By the way, whats a shill ?
If I am one I better know what it is.

James,
The Clerk of the Parliaments also wrote a report that listed all the House of Lords members with Monckton’s name clearly on that list, downloadable from the same parliamentary website that first sported the original complaint. It only took me 5 minutes to locate it after the complaint was first brought to my attention over 2 years ago.
Furthermore, the treaty draft was changed within a day of Monckton reporting its contents here at WUWT.
So in essence, Monckton did us all a great service and continues to do so, despite attempts by the likes of you to smear is reputation with the words of a proven liar.
Next time you post, try not to mindlessly parrot the claptrap that spews forth from the warmist brigade BEFORE spouting the same tired propaganda that was debunked over 2 years beforehand, and instead, research the science and economics of the warmist agenda independently and with an open mind.
You may be surprised at what you will find.

First, yes, sixteen years is ridiculous. Let’s wait for Ben “Beat the Crap” Santer’s seventeen years, and see if the trend is statistically significant or not.
Second, theatrics are completely out of place when it comes to hard science. So, no dressing up, not even in superhero costumes, and most definitely not wearing underwear on the outside. OK, Scott?
Third, booing should only be allowed in pantomimes. Oh, wait…
A final point – a question, actually: how would any speech delivered at this bunfight be grounds for “stripping” someone of their UN credentials? Is there some clause that states that if you’re naughty or contrary, you should be told off. Somehow.
Lord Monckton does have a tendency toward the dramatic, but the response was pure Hollywood luvvy. Maybe Leonardo will pay him a visit, and stage a reprise of his role in “Titanic” as punishment? Ew.

Hello Coke
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Don’t be so condescending as to say
“Next time you post, try not to mindlessly parrot the claptrap that spews forth from the warmist brigade BEFORE spouting the same tired propaganda that was debunked over 2 years beforehand, and instead, research the science and economics of the warmist agenda independently and with an open mind.
You may be surprised at what you will find.”
I have been researching the subject for over 30 years.

James Abbott says:
“…what’s a shill?”
Since you apparently can’t use a dictionary, allow me to define shill, per my easy on-line dictionary:
an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
From your constant ad hominem comments, ‘shill’ defines you. You don’t criticize “both sides of the argument”, you shill for the alarmist narrative. Without posting any testable science, I might add.
And your green-eyed envy of Lord Monckton comes across loud and clear. Your pathetic ad hominem sniping from the sidelines is the best you can do. If you read this thread you will see that you are in a distinct minority. The clear ‘consensus’ shows that Lord Monckton produced a real public relations coup. The more we discuss it, the better I like it. ☺
Finally, if you have been “researching” this subject for over 30 years as you claim, how do you feel about the undeniable fact that the planet itself is debunking your catastrophic AGW nonsense? Too bad for you that the real world disagrees with your belief system.

Alan Watt,
My gosh! You’ve found th hidden heat! And all you had to do was Goggle it – Quick someone tell Mike Mann!
Mike Bentley

markx says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm
IMHO too much is being made of this 16 year period.
This approach relies heavily on the assumption there is not another spate of warming in the near future.
The real issue is how much mankind might be contributing to recent warming, and what may be the ongoing and future effects of mankind’s future contributions. (IMHO again, respectively, I think very minor, and the system seems to be remarkably self regulating….)
================================================================
After 16 years of no warming, it’s still too early to mention it ?!?!
“The system seems to be remarkably self regulating.” This dirt ball had 4.5 billion years to evolve it. It would be remarkable if it were not self regulating.

Checking out some AGWarmist sites. Monkton has made some of them very angry. I think not because he said an inconvenient truth. Rather, because he injected an element of farce into the COP proceedings, farce that will make the news, and these people are desperate to be taken seriously.

James Abbott asks:
“Why does the climate skeptic community hold up Monckton as a hero ?”
What do you call someone who stands up for truth against a tide of lies likely to result in an awful lot of suffering when he could at much less personal risk just went along and made Gore $ to boot?
I call that sort of person a hero.

James,
Like I said, I read that 2 years ago when it was posted, and only a few minutes later I found the report that listed Monckton as a lord on the same site, written by the same guy. Repeating the original text here doesn’t change that but thanks for the refresher.
And I’m not old enough to say that I have been researching the subject for 30 years, but I found the contradictory statements quicker than you did, bud.

James Abbott says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:36 pm
I have been researching the subject for over 30 years.
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And you still spout idiocy? Must be your Marxist world-view that is interfering with your thinking. If I spend 30 years studying something, I would be an authority on that subject.

A follow up on my previous post. Here is the reference in case there are disbelievers.
Cardinal George Pell on indulgences:
“The rewards for proper environmental behaviour are uncertain, unlike the grim scenarios for the future as a result of human irresponsibility which have a dash of the apocalyptic about them, even of the horsemen of the Apocalypse. The immense financial costs true-believers would impose on economies can be compared with the sacrifices offered traditionally in religion, and the sale of carbon credits with the pre-Reformation practice of selling indulgences. Some of those campaigning to save the planet are not merely zealous but zealots. To the religionless and spiritually rootless, mythology – whether comforting or discomforting – can be magnetically, even pathologically, attractive.”
http://www.sydneycatholic.org/people/archbishop/addresses/2011/20111026_1463.shtml

James Abbott says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:36 pm
“I have been researching the subject for over 30 years.”
Translation; “I am not a good researcher”

““IMHO too much is being made of this 16 year period.””
And way, way too much is made of the coincidence of rising CO2 with mannipulated urban land temperatures over the period from 1980-1998. Many, many $billions too much.
So your point is ???

Christopher Monckton,
Please forgive me if I do not refer to your rightful title of “Lord”; however, I am but a Yank, and us Yanks are a bit peevish on such titles.
Please accept my congratulations on your communication of a message many in Daha needed to hear. Your ability to drive a point home, succinctly, and without any threat to health, welfare or human life, is to be admired.
While many stunt protests are elaborate, and can jeopardize the possessions people have worked hard for, or can endanger lives of both strangers and the protester alike, you devised an ingenious way to use but a few seconds of time, without jeopardy to life or limb, to drive home a point. We Yanks refer to that as First Amendment Rights. However, your hosts at Doha apparently take a different view – as do the delegates at the conference.
I don’t always agree with your methods, but here I would like to say that I hold your current actions in the highest regards. You, sir (a title I am willing to give), have my respect.
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De-badged by the UN, now that’s an honour to be proud of.

Freedom of Speech, leftie-style: You have complete freedom to say anything you like. But if we disagree with you then we will shoot you.

Phil M says:
December 6, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Sorry I’m so late to your party.
Phil, you’re in for a come-uppins over the next two solar cycles. They will not be in your style of most active sun, and it will be colder. So strut your “high” (laughable) flat line stuff today, because the flat line demonstrates a transition to 30 years of colder weather. That’s Nature Phil. Wear your fleece, you’ll need it.
Cheer up, for a change you are getting some good advice by stopping by this blog. Think for a moment, when the LIA happened (forget Mann’s manipulated stick) and glaciers advanced over European villages, they didn’t have fleeces and it was very bad. See how lucky you are?

Hats off to the Lord!
Wonderful work – as by that one act nobody there can claim they were not told that nothing is happenning. Their ‘innocence’ in terms of operating in a bubble has been completely destroyed. Be interesting to see who works out the significance of that one act.
The good thing is this is now spread across the Internet far and wide as the AGW crowd foam at the mouth over the his actions and spout the usual out the other end – or it is the other way around? hard to tell these days…

If they put this one up do we just say that Hansen fiddled with the data?
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/509796main_GISS_annual_temperature_anomalies_running.pdf

Wow. we got an entire tribe of warmist fanatics applauding kicking out Monckton for stating what is the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.
You guys know who you are. You can’t let go of ripping off the taxpayer for your fantasy. Your livelihood depends on ongoing robbery.

Coke says:
December 6, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Michael J Alexander wrote, on December 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm:
He didn’t accomplish anything except look rather immature. If you’re a skeptic, you add to the knowledge base of greenhouse gas and it’s effect on the global climate by presenting facts in an appropriate fashion. This does little to further the skeptics side of the argument.
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…which is EXACTLY what he has been doing for the last 4 goddamn years, Michael.
Honestly, where do you warmist people come from?
I’m a warmist????? Really???? I love it when people make assumptions based on no real evidence what-so-ever.

Lord Monckton.
Expertly done with great suave and without exceptional fanfare. You said what needed to be said to the whole conference at a time they could all hear you, in a very precise statement of value for scientific measurements across various systems. Great cheer is deserved and sent by me and many others.
Incidentally we met last in Sacramento, last year. You have it nailed. Please keep it up!
I look forward to talking again.

He’s kicked out? For uttering one sentence? Seventeen unwanted words at a conference and he’s KICKED OUT? Who decided that? Which authority had the right?
Actually, if I were Lord Christopher Monckton, I’d be grinning from ear to ear – those dang fools have given him a most powerful weapon. They’ve shown the world a fine display! Of complete intolerance. Oh yes, wouldn’t be a joy if the Greens ruled the world! I can’t see anyone wanting that now if they are promised such treatment for just speaking out. I would say these hotheads have lost a few more from the middle ground (if they ever had any to begin with). No matter which way you look at it, this whole shebang is backfiring on them.
Raise your glasses high, folks. A toast to Lord Monckton! Cheers from Australia!