Shocker: The Hansen/GISS team paper that says: "we argue that rapid warming in recent decades has been driven mainly by non-CO2 greenhouse gases"

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No, this isn’t a joke, it isn’t a fake document, and it isn’t a misinterpretation. It is a paper published by Dr. James Hansen (and the GISS team) in PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences). In the paper (published in 2000, but long since buried) they make these two bold statements (emphasis mine):

..we argue that rapid warming in recent decades has been driven mainly by non-CO2 greenhouse gases (GHGs), such as chlorofluorocarbons, CH4, and N2O, not by the products of fossil fuel burning, CO2 and aerosols..

If sources of CH4 and O3 precursors were reduced in the future, the change in climate forcing by non-CO2 GHGs in the next 50 years could be near zero. Combined with a reduction of black carbon emissions and plausible success in slowing CO2 emissions, this reduction of non-CO2 GHGs could lead to a decline in the rate of global warming, reducing the danger of dramatic climate change.

Basically what Hansen is saying is that we should focus on air pollution, and some CO2 reduction, but not exclusively on CO2 alone. This is of course at odds with his famous 350ppm CO2 “safe level” upon which the activist organization 350.org is formed, along with many other pronouncements made by Hansen. I post the abstract and excerpts from the PNAS paper below. Be sure to note the item in red. – Anthony

Global warming in the twenty-first century: An alternative scenario

James Hansen*, Makiko Sato*, Reto Ruedy*, Andrew Lacis*, and Valdar Oinas*§
+ Author Affiliations *National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Center for Climate Systems Research, Columbia University Earth Institute, and §Center for Environmental Prediction, Rutgers University, 2880 Broadway, New York, NY 10025  Contributed by James Hansen

Abstract 

A common view is that the current global warming rate will continue or accelerate. But we argue that rapid warming in recent decades has been driven mainly by non-CO2 greenhouse gases (GHGs), such as chlorofluorocarbons, CH4, and N2O, not by the products of fossil fuel burning, CO2 and aerosols, the positive and negative climate forcings of which are partially offsetting. The growth rate of non-CO2 GHGs has declined in the past decade. If sources of CH4 and O3 precursors were reduced in the future, the change in climate forcing by non-CO2 GHGs in the next 50 years could be near zero. Combined with a reduction of black carbon emissions and plausible success in slowing CO2 emissions, this reduction of non-CO2 GHGs could lead to a decline in the rate of global warming, reducing the danger of dramatic climate change. Such a focus on air pollution has practical benefits that unite the interests of developed and developing countries. However, assessment of ongoing and future climate change requires composition-specific long-term global monitoring of aerosol properties.

The global surface temperature has increased by about 0.5°C since 1975 (1, 2), a burst of warming that has taken the global temperature to its highest level in the past millennium (3). There is a growing consensus (4) that the warming is at least in part a consequence of increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gases (GHGs).

GHGs cause a global climate forcing, i.e., an imposed perturbation of the Earth’s energy balance with space (5). There are many competing natural and anthropogenic climate forcings, but increasing GHGs are estimated to be the largest forcing and to result in a net positive forcing, especially during the past few decades (4, 6). Evidence supporting this interpretation is provided by observed heat storage in the ocean (7), which is positive and of the magnitude of the energy imbalance estimated from climate forcings for recent decades (8).

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) (4) has considered a range of scenarios for future GHGs, which is further expanded in its Special Report on Emissions Scenarios (9). Yet global warming simulations have focused on “business as usual” scenarios with rapidly increasing GHGs. These scenarios yield a steep, relentless increase in global temperature throughout the twenty-first century (4, 10) with warming of several degrees Celsius by 2100, if climate sensitivity is 2–4°C for doubled CO2, as climate models suggest (4, 1113). These figures can give the impression that curtailment of global warming is almost hopeless. The 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which calls for industrialized nations to reduce their CO2 emissions to 95% of 1990 levels by 2012 (14), is itself considered a difficult target to achieve. Yet the climate simulations lead to the conclusion that the Kyoto reductions will have little effect in the twenty-first century (15), and “30 Kyotos” may be needed to reduce warming to an acceptable level (16).

We suggest equal emphasis on an alternative, more optimistic, scenario. This scenario focuses on reducing non-CO2 GHGs and black carbon during the next 50 years. Our estimates of global climate forcings indicate that it is the non-CO2 GHGs that have caused most observed global warming. This interpretation does not alter the desirability of limiting CO2 emissions, because the future balance of forcings is likely to shift toward dominance of CO2 over aerosols. However, we suggest that it is more practical to slow global warming than is sometimes assumed.

Hansen et al Figure 1: Estimated climate forcings between 1850 and 2000.

Climate forcing by CO2 is the largest forcing, but it does not dwarf the others (Fig. 1). Forcing by CH4 (0.7 W/m2) is half as large as that of CO2, and the total forcing by non-CO2 GHGs (1.4 W/m2) equals that of CO2. Moreover, in comparing forcings due to different activities, we must note that the fossil fuels producing most of the CO2 are also the main source of aerosols, especially sulfates, black carbon, and organic aerosols (4, 23). Fossil fuels contribute only a minor part of the non-CO2 GHG growth via emissions that are not essential to energy production.

Aerosols cause a climate forcing directly by reflecting sunlight and indirectly by modifying cloud properties. The indirect effect includes increased cloud brightness, as aerosols lead to a larger number and smaller size of cloud droplets (24), and increased cloud cover, as smaller droplets inhibit rainfall and increase cloud lifetime (25). Absorbing aerosols cause a semidirect forcing by heating the atmosphere, thus reducing large-scale cloud cover (5). In addition, absorbing aerosols within cloud drops and in interstitial air decrease cloud brightness.

Forcing by atmospheric aerosols is uncertain, but research of the past decade indicates that it is substantial (4, 2628). The aerosol forcing that we estimate (6) has the same magnitude (1.4 W/m2) but a sign that is opposite that of the CO2 forcing. Fossil fuel use is the main source of both CO2 and aerosols, with land conversion and biomass burning also contributing to both forcings. Although fossil fuels contribute to growth of some of the other GHGs, it follows that the net global climate forcing due to processes that produced CO2 in the past century probably is much less than 1.4 W/m2. This partial offsetting of aerosol and greenhouse forcings has been discussed (2931). Offsetting of global mean forcings does not imply that climate effects are negligible.

A corollary following from Fig. 1 is that climate forcing by non-CO2 GHGs (1.4 W/m2) is nearly equal to the net value of all known forcings for the period 1850–2000 (1.6 W/m2). Thus, assuming only that our estimates are approximately correct, we assert that the processes producing the non-CO2 GHGs have been the primary drive for climate change in the past century.

An Alternative Scenario

Hansen et al Figure 5:  A scenario for additional climate forcings between 2000 and 2050. Reduction of black carbon moves the aerosol forcing to lower values.

Let us propose a climate forcing scenario for the next 50 years that adds little forcing (Fig. 5), less than or about 1 W/m2, and then ask whether the elements of the scenario are plausible. The next 50 years is the most difficult time to affect CO2 emissions, because of the inertia of global energy systems, as evidenced by Fig. 4. The essence of the strategy is to halt and even reverse the growth of non-CO2 GHGs and to reduce black carbon emissions. Such a strategy would mitigate an inevitable, even if slowing, growth of CO2. By midcentury improved energy efficiency and advanced technologies, perhaps including hydrogen-powered fuel cells, should allow policy options with reduced reliance on fossil fuels and, if necessary, CO2 sequestration.

Summary

Business-as-usual scenarios provide a useful warning about the potential for human-made climate change. Our analysis of climate forcings suggests, as a strategy to slow global warming, an alternative scenario focused on reducing non-CO2 GHGs and black carbon (soot) aerosols. Investments in technology to improve energy efficiency and develop nonfossil energy sources are also needed to slow the growth of CO2 emissions and expand future policy options.

A key feature of this strategy is its focus on air pollution, especially aerosols and tropospheric ozone, which have human health and ecological impacts. If the World Bank were to support investments in modern technology and air quality control in India and China, for example, the reductions in tropospheric ozone and black carbon would not only improve local health and agricultural productivity but also benefit global climate and air quality.

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So the strategy should be to focus on air pollution, not CO2

Think I made all this up? Read the paper at PNAS here.

(Big hat tip to WUWT reader Nick.)

Backup link in case it disappears like so many other things is here.

Now for the other shocker. This paper was published in the year 2000. So what happened to Hansen since then? He’s totally lost the plot from then, which from my perspective, seems reasonable, and one I could get behind.

Instead we have pronouncements like this:

2008 from a non peer reviewed paper published on Hansen’s personal website

If humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on Earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO2 will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm.

2009 in a article in the UK Guardian. Hansen says –

“The trains carrying coal to power plants are death trains. Coal-fired power plants are factories of death.”

And this:

Clearly, if we burn all fossil fuels, we will destroy the planet we know. Carbon dioxide would increase to 500 ppm or more.

May 10th, 2012 Game over on Climate, New York Times op-ed –

Canada’s tar sands, deposits of sand saturated with bitumen, contain twice the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by global oil use in our entire history. If we were to fully exploit this new oil source, and continue to burn our conventional oil, gas and coal supplies, concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere eventually would reach levels higher than in the Pliocene era, more than 2.5 million years ago, when sea level was at least 50 feet higher than it is now. That level of heat-trapping gases would assure that the disintegration of the ice sheets would accelerate out of control. Sea levels would rise and destroy coastal cities. Global temperatures would become intolerable. Twenty to 50 percent of the planet’s species would be driven to extinction. Civilization would be at risk.

No mention of the other GHG’s, carbon soot, and aersols in that op-ed.

Clearly he seems to have abandoned the idea that seemed so reasonable and workable in his 2000 paper for the idea that CO2 reduction and removal of fossil fuels from the energy equation is the only possible scenario.

I think he was affected by the money, power, and hoopla surrounding Al Gore’s success with the alarming fabrications in An Inconvenient Truth as well as the hoopla and fame associated with the Nobel prize for the 2007 IPCC report. (Added: it is important to note that all of this backpedaling occurred after Hansen’s 1988 Senate testimony  where he and sponsoring Senator Tim Wirth were so sure of the science blaming CO2 saying “that it was 99 percent certain that the warming trend was not a natural variation but was caused by a buildup of carbon dioxide and other artificial gases in the atmosphere.” that they had a thermostat malfunction in the hearing room, it came after Rio Earth Summit 1992, and the subsequent Kyoto protocol. Now Hansen has flip-flopped again with more recent CO2 pronouncements.)

When you go from scientist to arrested activist, the reasonable path just doesn’t get people stirred up. It seems Dr. Hansen has gone over to the dark side of the forcings.

Ask Dr. Hansen’s acolyte Bill McKibben how well reasonable approaches work in all the wailing hippie protests he organizes. You can connect the dots.

UPDATE: graph added, thanks to Joshua Halpern of Howard University who says:

Eli Rabett on 2012/06/03 at 10:42 am says:

That was 2000, this is 2012. As that paper said, the alternative strategy would buy time, not solve the problem. We didn’t follow it and are now running out of time. Twelve years is a while.

REPLY: Yes as noted clearly in red, that was 2000. Twelve years without warming is a while.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2000/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2000/trend

What’s the rush? Meanwhile:

NOAA: Carbon dioxide levels reach milestone at Arctic sites

NOAA cooperative measurements in remote, northern sites hit greenhouse gas milestone in April

– Anthony

UPDATE2: It gets stranger. WUWT reader Jimbo points out in comments, that Hansen wrote a paper blaming soot for the Arctic ice melt, calling it twice as effective as CO2.

Soot climate forcing via snow and ice albedos  James Hansen*  †‡  and Larissa Nazarenko*  †

Plausible estimates for the effect of soot on snow and ice albedos (1.5% in the Arctic and 3% in Northern Hemisphere land areas) yield a climate forcing of 0.3 Wm2 in the Northern Hemisphere. The ‘‘efficacy’’ of this forcing is 2, i.e., for a given forcing it is twice as effective as CO2 in altering global surface air temperature.

Global Warming. Soot snowice albedo climate forcing is not included in Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change evaluations.  This forcing is unusually effective, causing twice as much global  warming as a CO2 forcing of the same magnitude. This high efficacy  is a straight-forward consequence of positive albedo feedbacks and  atmospheric stability at high latitudes.  Our estimate for the mean soot effect on spectrally integrated  albedos in the Arctic (1.5%) and Northern Hemisphere land areas  (3%) yields a Northern Hemisphere forcing of 0.3 Wm2  or an  effective hemispheric forcing of 0.6 Wm2  . The calculated global  warming in an 1880–2000 simulation is about one quarter of  observed global warming

Source: pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2004/2004_Hansen_Nazarenko.pdf

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Joseph Bastardi
June 3, 2012 1:30 pm

Heh, Its not Anthony’s fault I did not read the whole thing. I just got so fired up after I read the first part I sent the link off cause I thought it was huge. But as Reagan said, Trust, but verify. I was the fool. I guess Anthony assumes his readers are not fools, and would have read the whole thing.. Which is what I should have done first.
Now it is fool-proof. My own dang fault
BTW, I dont think its a big deal cause the MSM could care less what Hansen said then. He hasnt been held to anything so I thought when I read shock, it was new.

Jimbo
June 3, 2012 1:40 pm

Sorry not a shocker for me because I’ve read that before. Here is something else that’s also not a shocker.

Plausible estimates for the effect of soot on snow and ice albedos (1.5% in the Arctic and 3% in Northern Hemisphere land areas) yield a climate forcing of +0.3 W/m2 in the Northern Hemisphere. The “efficacy” of this forcing is ∼2, i.e., for a given forcing it is twice as effective as CO2 in altering global surface air temperature. This indirect soot forcing may have contributed to global warming of the past century, including the trend toward early springs in the Northern Hemisphere, thinning Arctic sea ice, and melting land ice and permafrost. If, as we suggest, melting ice and sea level rise define the level of dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system, then reducing soot emissions, thus restoring snow albedos to pristine high values, would have the double benefit of reducing global warming and raising the global temperature level at which dangerous anthropogenic interference occurs. However, soot contributions to climate change do not alter the conclusion that anthropogenic greenhouse gases have been the main cause of recent global warming and will be the predominant climate forcing in the future.
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/2/423.long

Since then he went all quiet about soot and warming and onto coal and co2 and warming. What changed?

Jimbo
June 3, 2012 1:43 pm

Sorry I forgot to mention that the last paper was from no other than
Dr. James Hansen and andLarissa Nazarenko, PNAS, November 4, 2003

Peter Dunford
June 3, 2012 1:57 pm

I think this was a brief interlude after Hansen had read that the key to being a successful forecaster is to forecast many and often times, and contradict yourself. You can big-up and people will remember you for your correct predictions.
The Dollar’s finished. The Euro’s finished. No they’re not.
The Japanese will eat our lunch. The Chinese will get there first. I feel a bit full now.
The oceans will boil. The oceans will rise. The oceans will freeze. The oceans will fall.
CO2 is a bitch. No, it’s the other gasses that are bitches. All the gasses are bitches and will kill us. No they won’t..
Hansen’s trouble is he got forgot the rule, and got stuck in a CO2 groove.

Peter Dunford
June 3, 2012 1:59 pm

Sorry, I forgot. The oceans will bob about and generally not do much.

Jim Clarke
June 3, 2012 2:09 pm

The one thing Hansen has remained consistent on is the complete absence of natural variability in all of his work. He may give it occasional lip service, but it is not in his calculations.
Real climatologists, who study the climate beyond just the human influence, easily recognize natural cycles. If these natural cycles are included in the calculations of the atmospheres sensitivity to human influences, the sensitivity is reduced to the point of being inconsequential. Whether it is 2000 or 2012, papers that do not recognize natural climate variability have no hope of being anywhere near scientifically accurate.
Hansen is simply living the mime of the modern environmental movement in which humans are unnatural and bad for the planet. As long as he adheres to that party line, he can flip flop all he wants on just how the evil of you humanity will manifest.

Robbie
June 3, 2012 2:10 pm

Grandpa Boris June 3, 2012 at 12:01 pm is the only one who was smart enough to read the paper.
This paper isn’t buried or whatever: It is still there for all to see: http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/authors/jhansen.html
And the whole paper can be read here:
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2000/2000_Hansen_etal_2.pdf
Nothing to hide. Just read it whole. Hansen doesn’t hide it somehow.
“Carbon Dioxide. CO2 will become the dominant climate forcing,
if its emissions continue to increase and aerosol effects level off.
Business-as-usual scenarios understate the potential for CO2
emission reductions from improved energy efficiency and decarbonization
of fuels. Based on this potential and current CO2
growth trends, we argue that limiting the CO2 forcing increase
to 1 Wym2 in the next 50 years is plausible.
Indeed, CO2 emissions from fossil fuel use declined slightly in
1998 and again in 1999 (71), while the global economy grew.
However, achieving the level of emissions needed to slow climate
change significantly is likely to require policies that encourage
technological developments to accelerate energy efficiency and
decarbonization trends.”
The intentions of the paper are wildly misinterpreted here on this page. And it really strikes me how many people just don’t take the time to read it and come up with all kinds of wild accusations. What Hansen and team are saying (well proposing) is the fact that Non-CO2 GHGs have a stronger forcing than CO2 had so far (in 2000). Thus he and his team proposes an alternative strategy to reduce the forcing effects of increasing CO2 by trying to reduce Non-CO2 GHG emissions for the coming 50 years. But this was 12 years ago. Climate science has gained so much more knowledge since then.
Now people: How do we measure these Non-CO2 GHGs in the atmosphere? In ppm or in ppb or even less than that? This is really nothing to see here. Just movin’ on.

Rattus Norvegicus
June 3, 2012 2:12 pm

Anthony,
About that graph you added. Why not use the more up-to-date and seemingly more accurate HADCRUT4? You might see something different:
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2000/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2000/trend

REPLY:
You mean the one with the “value added adjustments” to fix the non-warming problem of HadCRUT3?

David L. Hagen
June 3, 2012 2:16 pm

Susan Solomon et al. (2010) state that the DECLINE in stratospheric water vapor REDUCED the rate of increase in global surface temperature over 2000-2009 by about 25% compared to that which would have occurred due only to carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.
Contributions of Stratospheric Water Vapor to Decadal Changes in the Rate of Global Warming Susan Solomon et al. Science Fol. 327 5 March 2010 1219 (2010). It has been cited 139 times.

Green Sand
June 3, 2012 2:20 pm

The following simple equation explains all:-
False Prophet = Real Profit
Simples

wayne
June 3, 2012 2:23 pm

An alternative viewpoint:
Has no one realized that James Hansen has gasophobia? Some people are scared of snakes, some spiders, some the dark, for James it is the invisible gases that he breathes. Got to feel sorry for that fellow. Long ago, about college age, he saw a thick haze in the atmosphere as the sun set (volcanic dust and gas at the time) and he has never recovered since from what he viwed, terrifies him to this day and you can read that between his words.
First it was nature’s fault (paper above), now it is mankind’s fault (recent papers), but always Hansen suspects it is really God’s fault for burying it in the first place… just look at the “death trains” that create the gas he is forced to breathe!
You should just ignore his manifestos (passed as ‘science’) via NASA. Just how he rose to his position as the loudmouth-piece for NASA on atmospheric gases is still a bit of a mystery.

Richard M
June 3, 2012 2:30 pm

I suspect someone pulled Hansen aside and explained the monetary ramifications of a slight change in his direction.

Mike
June 3, 2012 2:31 pm

@”REPLY: Because it has been buried, Hansen doesn’t include it (along with many of his older publications) in his list of publications on his website.
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/publications.shtml
I had never seen it until today. – Anthony”
I suppose if you don’t keep up with the scientific literature this and many other things would seem shocking. The paper is listed on Hansen’s web page. It is not on the first page because the first page only goes back to 2004. But at the bottom of that page there is a link to earlier publications: http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/authors/jhansen.html#2000
So, it was hidden in plane sight all along. In fact the debate about short term climate fixes while awaiting the longer term solution is pretty well known.

eyesonu
June 3, 2012 2:31 pm

I don’t see how anyone could miss the date of the publication along with the associated text.
I viewed it with enough emphasis that I tried to click on it.
Must have been one hell of a Saturday night for some.
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davidmhoffer says:
June 3, 2012 at 10:00 am
A lot in that post, buy one would have to actually read it.

davidmhoffer
June 3, 2012 2:33 pm

REPLY: You mean the one with the “value added adjustments” to fix the non-warming problem of HadCRUT3?
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Just plot Hadcrut4 starting in 1998 instead….
Really, there is no trend to speak of, you can only create one by cherry picking start and stop dates. Since 1998 was widely touted as the hottest ever at the time, the tip of the hockey stick in graph after graph after graph, should it not be included?
Of course, I’m of the opinion that trying to assign a linear trend to a cyclical system is just plain silly in the first place. But if they want to play… well then, let’s play!

SasjaL
June 3, 2012 2:33 pm

Is this related to the measurements of NOx at varying altitudes, conducted just a few years ago? The study that showed that previous assumptions about the amount of NOx in the atmosphere were inaccurate and the following consequences.

June 3, 2012 2:35 pm

the Brit says: June 3, 2012 at 10:40 am
“Well we got through the first Jubilee celebration finishing in rain here in the UK State of PDRofEU, our poor pointless Consitutional Monarch, with our pathetic government & corrupt politicians, but it was a jolly good show & she is wonderful (God forbid that eco twit of a son of hers succeeds her, he will make a dreadful King!), if only she hadn’t conceded to us joining Europe, it is the only blemish on her remarkable 60 year reign!”
Hi Alan – I’m wondering what is it about the phrase “Constitutional Monarch” that you don’t understand? Parliament is sovereign, and – ha bloody ha bloody ha – expresses the will of the people.

manicbeancounter
June 3, 2012 2:35 pm

I have done a comparison table of Hansen/GISS estimated forcings with the UNIPCC estimates just seven years later.
http://manicbeancounter.com/2012/06/03/forcings-hansen-et-al-2000-v-unipcc-2007/
My observations are:-

According to the UNIPCC
– Hansen underestimated CO2 component.
– Hansen overestimated the CH4 component.
– Hansen overestimated the impact of the sun.
However, Hanson could counter that the UNIPCC have completely forgotten about the impact of volcanoes.

Philip Peake
June 3, 2012 2:40 pm

So he want(ed) to remove 03 “precursors”?
Like O2 for example?

Jim Clarke
June 3, 2012 2:41 pm

“These scenarios yield a steep, relentless increase in global temperature throughout the twenty-first century (4, 10) with warming of several degrees Celsius by 2100, if climate sensitivity is 2–4°C for doubled CO2, as climate models suggest (4, 11–13).”
First of all, the climate models do not ‘suggest’ this sensitivity. It is a number that is hard wired into the model by the assumptions made in the program. There are two primary assumptions:
1. The warming of the second half of the 20th Century is due almost entirely to increasing levels of CO2.
2. The water vapor feedback is positive and will double or triple the effect of CO2 warming.
The above 2000 paper has the interesting impact of cancelling out the CO2 warming with man-made aerosol cooling! In which case, calculating the climate sensitivity to CO2 using 20th Century temperatures becomes impossible! If none of the warming was actually due to increasing CO2, than how can we use that warming to calculate climate sensitivity to CO2? That is like using the temperature above your toaster to see how much heat the stove is giving off. This paper undermines all credibility in the models (as if they ever had any).
We still have yet to find any indication of a water vapor feedback of the proposed magnitude. The idea before all of this AGW nonsense started is that the water cycle acts as a brake to any perturbations in global temperature. Hansen himself points out that a runaway greenhouse event has never happened on this planet, despite CO2 levels many times the current value, then apparently argues that it will happen this time. Is the physics of the atmosphere different today? No, and all indications are pointing to the water cycle dampening temperature fluctuations in the global atmosphere…just like we thought it did.
The cognitive dissonance in Hansen’s work is astounding! Why is he relevant, much less revered?

son of mulder
June 3, 2012 2:41 pm

So what is the climate sensitivity to doubling CO2 in the light of this paper?

Dude
June 3, 2012 2:44 pm
A Lovell
June 3, 2012 2:45 pm

Taphonomic says:
June 3, 2012 at 11:06 am
I suggest that we nominate Dr. Hansen for the prestigious Paul R. Ehrlich award, celebrating: “How Many Times Can You Be Epically Wrong And Still be Accorded Any Semblance Of Credibility”
Ha ha! I love it. I have often wondered how Ehrlich still gets away with it.

Green Sand
June 3, 2012 2:45 pm

Rattus Norvegicus says:
June 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Anthony,
About that graph you added. Why not use the more up-to-date and seemingly more accurate HADCRUT4? You might see something different:

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Ah. HadCRUT4, can you please explain the following? I have tried asking in the UK to no avail.
“Global-average annual temperature forecast”
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/seasonal-to-decadal/long-range/glob-aver-annual-temp-fc
At the bottom of the page is:-
“Figure 3: The difference in coverage of land surface temperature data between 1990-1999 and 2005-2010. Blue squares are common coverage. Orange squares are areas where we had data in the 90s but don’t have now and the few pale green areas are those where we have data now, but didn’t in the 90s. The largest difference is over Canada.”
Why did the MO not have the Canadian land surface temperature data 2005-2010? I am not aware of any of the stations being closed during that period? And obviously they are operating OK now. But if they were closed during that period could somebody please point me in the right direction?
How can a data source that portrays to be representative appear to chop and change what stations to include/exclude and or subsequently re-introduce?

davidmhoffer
June 3, 2012 2:51 pm

Hansen et al, 1999
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abs/ha03200f.html
The cooling trend in the United States, which began after the 1930s and is associated with ocean temperature change patterns, began to reverse after 1979. We suggest that further warming in the United States to a level rivaling the 1930s is likely in the next decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Methinks that one didn’t happen either.

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