Why ‘Feel Good’ Climate Activism?

from MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr.

Sam Belfied in his essay, “Climate Activism: ‘It Made Me Feel Like a Good Person’” (August 19, 2026), has a number of interesting insights on the motivations of climate campaigners given the intellectual case that their cause is both futile and wasteful. And ecologically damaging (think wind and solar industrialization). Excerpts follow verbatim; footnotes can be found in the original.

The following commentary and research findings suggest that climate ideology and activism are psychological compensatory responses to painful, emotional, subjective, and even existential aspects of the self. Specifically, the material suggests a deeper and collective psychological malaise, of which anxiety and distress about climate change are an expression, not the root cause….

The climate movement involves guilt, self-loathing and seeking redemption

In discussing the emotions motivating climate activists, commentators have proposed ‘guilt,’ ‘self-flagellation,’ ‘sin,’ ‘self-loathing’ , ‘conscience’, and seeking ‘atonement’ and ‘redemption.’ Activists are also described as seeking to fill a ‘God-shaped hole with something good,’ and that ‘Net Zero is like heaven.’

They are described as supporting an ‘anti-human ideology’ and a worldview in which ‘human beings are parasites, cancers, that consume way too much, we’re in this existential crisis.’ Climate ideologies such as the pursuit of Net Zero are characterised as a ‘belief system,’ ‘quasi-religious,’ and an article of ‘faith’. A parallel is drawn with identity politics and the psychological mechanism of self-validation through identifying as ‘warriors’ for ‘climate justice.’

Incidental feelings of guilt and anger found to increase support for climate actions

Experiencing anger for discrete reasons (not arising from environmental harm) has been found to increase the tendency to condemn and punish perceived perpetrators for negative events, while experiencing guilt predisposes people to make reparations and to seek punishment for their wrongdoing. In the context of climate change, when people were primed to feel angry, they more strongly endorsed actions that entailed punishing others for not preventing such harm. In contrast, when primed to feel guilty, some placed the burden on individuals but the main effect was support for climate policies that targeted offending industries.

The study sought to reconcile these findings thus: to ‘paint self in a positive light,’ in addition to personal accountability, guilt may also lead people to attempt to ‘purge their guilt and responsibility by scapegoating others.’

Inducing environmental guilt and shame found to increase support for climate actions

Negative self-focused moral emotions, or a guilty conscience, have been found to be a powerful motivator of pro-social behaviour, and then found eliciting negative moral emotions through confrontation with human environmental harm led to a ‘guilty conscience,’ ‘guilt and shame’ that in turn led to pro-environmental behaviour, with shame ‘driving the manipulation’s effect.’

Activism as a ‘psychological coping mechanism’ for ‘Eco-anxiety’

A study recognised the emotional and existential nature of eco-anxiety and included the following extracts:

As awareness of [environmental degradation] has grown, so too their psychological impact, giving rise to a condition known as ecological anxiety. The American Psychological Association (APA) defines ecological anxiety as a persistent fear triggered by environmental threats …”This form of anxiety is characterized by feelings of loss, helplessness, and frustration concerning the deteriorating state of the environment.”

‘Although ecological anxiety is not a prerequisite for engaging in pro-environmental actions, it is a strong predictor of such behaviour.

Engaging in environmental activities provides individuals with a sense of control that can mitigate distress, serving as a therapeutic channel for converting feelings of helplessness into empowerment and fostering hope.

Conversely, direct engagement with environmental crises can heighten concern and generate negative psychological effects in personal lives.

[T[he correlation between anxiety and pro-environmental behaviour may suggest that individuals more anxious about the environment are more proactive in mitigating the crisis; they adopt a psychological coping mechanism in the face of significant global challenges …both personal and collective actions may serve as coping mechanisms for individuals experiencing ecological anxiety, offering a sense of control and purpose amid environmental uncertainty.’

A ‘warm glow’ for pro-environmental action and moral licensing to avoid a ‘guilty conscience’

A similar study included these extracts:

The American Psychological Association (APA) defines eco-anxiety as “a chronic fear of environmental doom”.

The concept of eco-anxiety encompasses a broad spectrum of definitions, including emotions such as guilt, fear, worry, despair, shame, and hopelessness. It is possible to differentiate at least three distinct behavioural responses: an anxiety-type response characterised by nervousness and fear, a self-reflective response involving shame and guilt, and a pain-oriented response manifesting as anger and distress.

Specific emotions, such as fear, are associated with increased pro-environmental behaviour, while emotions like guilt and anger are linked to participation in protests. Other climate-related emotions, including eco-guilt and eco-grief, eco-rage, eco-fear have also been shown to promote pro-environmental actions.

[Another] study argues that emotions such as fear, hope, anger and guilt underpin climate activism.

Research into the psychology of pro-environmental actions has recognised a feel-good ‘warm glow’ and ‘intrinsic emotional reward’ and the potential for reinforcing a ‘virtuous cycle’ of feel-good. Moral licensing whereby ‘past virtuous [climate] behaviour’ is used to justify ‘immoral, unethical and problematic’ climatic behaviour to avoid ‘the fear of feeling or appearing immoral’ and a ‘guilty conscience’—and reduce the motivation to change the problematic climate related behaviour.

Moral emotions leading to performative morality

Psychological commentary on virtue signalling and moral grandstanding has recognised that ‘moral talk’ can be a means of ‘seeking approval, status, belonging, attention, or protection,’ and that ‘being seen to care is more important than caring.’ Furthermore, ‘moral emotions’ including ‘anger, guilt, shame, pride, and disgust’ can drive moral expression, and while this can motivate ‘action and solidarity’ these emotions ‘can also make people impulsive, punitive, performative, or more concerned with emotional release than practical repair.’

Grandiose and vulnerable narcissism

One study has found that ‘grandiose narcissism is positively associated with pro-environmental values and virtue signalling mediates this relationship. This suggests that individuals high in grandiose narcissism may adopt pro-environmental values primarily to enhance their self-image.’ Conversely, vulnerable narcissists may engage in virtue-signalling to ‘protect their fragile self-esteem,’ as a ‘self-protective mechanism,’ and ‘guard their fragile self-concept.’

[Narcissistic vulnerability] is characterised by feelings of inadequacy, helplessness, low self-esteem, shame, and emotional vulnerability, which can lead to the avoidance of interpersonal relationships as the individual is hypersensitive to rejection and criticism. Narcissistic grandiosity entails entitlement, an inflated self-image, interpersonal exploitation, a lack of empathy, and aggressive behaviours.]

Another study notes ‘individuals with pronounced dark personality traits such as narcissism are inclined to use political or social activism as a vehicle to satisfy the needs specifically associated with their dark personality (e.g. getting public attention, feeling morally superior, domineering others, engaging in social conflicts, seeking thrills etc.)’

…In combination, all these traits could make narcissists more prone to participate in environmental activism not to save the planet but to satisfy their own ego-focused needs.

Climate ideology is formulated to avoid ‘difficult’ things and meet ‘psychological needs’

Psychologist Jordan Peterson, in response to being asked on ABC-TV in 2019 if collective responsibility overrides individual responsibility … said ‘no’. Then elaborated as follows ‘I think generally people have things within their personal purview that are more difficult to deal with, and that they’re avoiding, and generally the way they avoid them is by adopting pseudo-moralistic stances on large-scale social issues, so they look good to their friends and neighbours.’

In 2025, Peterson wrote a blog notably titled, ‘Net zero alarmism is a mental illness – Climate hysteria, and policies to ‘cure’ it, are the work of a cabal of ill-informed narcissistic worshippers of fear and force.’ In this blog, he wrote,

There are non-scientific, indeed psychological, reasons that such models [purporting to indicate catastrophic future danger] were and are generated and promoted in the first place.

…Here is the crucial question: Is the climate apocalypse narrative just a scientific theory? Or is it instead a system of belief, unmoored from the objective world, with essentially psychological factors playing the primary role in its initial formulation, current maintenance and widespread dissemination? …I have come to conclude, after much detailed consideration (informed by my professional training and experience as a researcher and clinician), that the climate doomsayers are possessed by an ideology much more akin to a psychogenic epidemic* than they are purveyors of any information remotely scientific.

*Psychogenic is defined as originating in the mind or in mental or emotional conflict; it describes conditions rooted in the mind, such as stress, trauma, or anxiety, rather than structural body damage.

Climate activism as a dysfunctional response to an ‘indifferent world’

In a 2025 article, Jeffrey Blehar provided an update on the evolution of Greta Thunberg’s activism. He wrote,

Thunberg is fulfilment in the flesh of an intellectual conceit: the brutally perfect embodiment of an entire younger left-wing generation’s hopeless attachment to the politics of gesture as opposed to the politics of hard work; politics as little more than an externalised expression of narcissism; politics as a plea for attention from an otherwise indifferent world. With that as Thunberg’s guiding star, no wonder she has captured the attention of a similarly lost segment of progressives. Watching both principal and audience mutually dysfunction like this, spiralling downward together in a self-radicalising vicious cycle, is almost sickeningly poetic to me.

Blehar also noted the shift of Thunberg’s performative activism to other contemporary social justice causes.

The trend in society of elevating the subjective above the objective

In a 2023 podcast, Australian psychiatrist Tanveer Ahmed was asked by the host, ‘How would you assess the dangers of identity politics?’ In response, Ahmed said,

A fundamental thing is the denial of individual responsibility. So, even the moral dimension, there’s a projection of all types of distress. So, “I feel a level of pain, I feel a degree of distress”, automatically that’s projected to the outside.

Later in the same podcast, Tanveer made the observation:

Some wider trends that have happened in society are that the subjective experience has been elevated, and this overlaps a lot with mental health. …at a very simplistic level, feelings have been elevated. And sometimes that clashes with what might be called objective truth. The notion of objective truth has been depicted as a kind of harsh, almost masculine trend, if you like. And as a result, it’s been diminished.

The ‘kernel of truth’ contained within secular ‘isms’: ‘We are not who we ought to be’

In 2025, former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson AC spoke with Melanie Phillips [10]. In this podcast, Phillips expressed an opinion on the current raft of secular ‘isms’ (e.g. environmentalism, climatism, globalism, etc.). She said they are based on the Christian template of sin, guilt and redemption, and then observed they are like,

medieval, millenarian Christians who believe that …we [must] purge ourselves of our sins,’ ‘they’ve arrived at something which is a kind of weird mirror image of Christianity. It’s called Christianity without God.

In response, Anderson suggests that at the core of secular ‘isms’ is an insecurity of moral worth and meaning:

Allow me a little musing for a moment. I wonder if, in a way, like all great lies, there’s a kernel of truth there somewhere. I wonder whether innately we are not right to think to ourselves, “I’m not who I ought to be. I am flawed. I do need redemption in some way”.

And what you’re now seeing is not so much a problem of people having been shaped to think that way by Christianity; it’s more a reality that we instinctively know we’re not that there’s right and there’s wrong, and we’re not always on the right side of the ledger. The problem is more that we’ve found the wrong answers because the right answers, the ones that real rigour brings you to, are unattractive, really. They’re not comfortable having to face the fact that we all have our bad, to use an expression from your own, the title of your own book. We have our better and our bad angels, everyone of us.’ To which Phillips replied, ‘Yes, it is uncomfortable. Conscience is uncomfortable, but reality is uncomfortable.’

Climate activism in younger generations as an outlet for ‘angst at the world’

American therapist, Stephanie Winn (@sometherapist), in her interview with Biggers, said her time as a ‘climate alarmist came from, for one thing, growing up in an overwhelming city.’ She also described how exposure to the pollution and ‘the apocalyptic events’ of her childhood, like the riots, made her ‘very susceptible to any type of alarmism.’ Winn then made the following revealing observation that is consistent with the research outline above:

If you’d told me the world is ending I would have believed you, because it sure felt like that in so many ways. And then I got involved in radical activism as a teenager, partly as an outlet for angst and some of the things that had happened to me. I was angry at the world. And so I was very susceptible to extreme ideas. And I think I was always seeking good and looking to do good with my life.

Winn goes on to emphasise the severe negative impact climate anxiety had on her mental health, behaviours, and decisions and later says:

We sometimes choose to adopt worldviews, beliefs, social circles, ways of life that match something deeper within. And so I explained how for me, some of the stress and trauma of my childhood made me a very easy target for any messaging that the world is about to end.

Climate activism as a misguided attempt to recreate ‘perfection’, leading to ‘frustration’ and ‘extremism’

During her interview with Biggers, Winn also mentioned her journey to becoming a Christian. She then reflects on her worldview that contributed to her becoming a climate activist, in retrospect through that ‘Christian lens’:

Much of my life I have been experiencing a longing to return to Eden, a longing to return to this original state of perfection. As an environmental activist, I was seeking that perfect state before the ‘Fall’, before ‘sin’, before separation, before evil came into this world. For me, the biblical understanding of the nature of good and evil has actually been really helpful in contextualising some of these [activist] inclinations. Because the thing that you [Biggers] describe of we’re a fallen species that actually resonates. But I think for me personally, having a spiritual understanding of that and then recognising, “Okay, this is life east of Eden. This is life after “The fall”. And our longing for perfection does tell us something about our nature. But some of our attempts at recreating that can also be misguided.” Right? If trying to create a perfect world in a world that cannot be perfect, you know, people will encounter this frustration.

And so I think any type of sort of zealotry or idealism or extremism maybe has that little grain of truth in it where, you know, there is some instinct, some compass in us that tells us that a more perfect world is possible. But I see that as misguided.

Biggers agreed with Winn and affirmed that she had been thinking about the ‘exact same theme’ as well. Shortly after which, Winn said, ‘I think when you get into activism without a foundational faith, you are trying to find that faith in that activism. And that’s a theme that’s very relevant. And it happens with all the types of activism,’ and then referred to several other social justice causes.

The above commentary and research, taken together, strongly suggest that the root cause of climate ideology and activism lies in deeper collective aspects of our experience, encompassing intellectual, emotional, spiritual, and existential aspects of the self. Furthermore, it supports the contention that climate ideology and activism are a psychological compensatory response to avoid and alleviate the emotional pain and confrontation of a deeper realm.

Lucy Biggers: From Climate Activist to Climate Realist

The following draws on three separate interviews with Biggers, by different hosts, including Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster on Triggernometry, since December 2025.

In 2015, at the age of 25, Biggers emerged as a high-profile American climate activist. In about 2020, Biggers stepped away from the climate movement for several years before becoming, in her words, a ‘climate realist’ advocating against ‘anti-climate alarmism and climate anxiety.’

When asked about how she became a climate activist, Biggers described herself as an average millennial who, at 16, watched Al Gore’s climate documentary, ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, which ‘really scared’ her. She described at the time, ‘having an overwhelming feeling of existential dread’ that the ‘planet’s not in a good place.’ Biggers has explained the impact of watching other climate documentaries in her 20s, the emerging significance of social media, algorithms feeding her the climate movement narrative, and her involvement in the Dakota Access Pipeline protest. Her talent for promoting the ‘climate crisis’ led to her gaining a sizeable social media following, advocating for the Green New Deal and interviewing Greta Thunberg.

In retrospect, Biggers describes herself as having ‘climate anxiety’, believing that ‘the world was beyond saving,’ and feeling an ‘existential dread, powerless, and without the prospect of an abundant and prosperous future.’ In contrast, by embracing the movement she gained a ‘persona,’ a lot of support and the next thing she was a ‘gung-ho climate activist.’

On another occasion, when asked in retrospect what led her to make climate activism her life, Biggers described wanting to be of service to the activists and on ‘the side of justice.’ She explained that, politically, at the time she was very left-wing and working in a very progressive environment. She has also emphasised her personal sense of moral guilt stemming from her ‘white privilege’ and ‘oppressor status’ in the context of critical race theory.

Significantly, Biggers has also described a deeper internal dimension at work.

Biggers said she was ‘pulled into’ the climate movement and ‘drawn in by the emotions of it.’ When Biggers was asked on where her generation got the idea to be on the ‘right side of history,’ she attributed it to the context they grew up in: the financial crisis of 2008, income inequality in America, 9/11 and the ensuing ‘Bush “forever wars”.’ In line with the observations of Ahmed included above, Biggers also notes that some people are caught in a ‘fear and victim mindset,’ that allows them to keep ‘blaming other people.’

In the interview with Maya Sulkin, Biggers said, ‘Psychologically, in retrospect, I think it was this desire to atone for my privileged position that I had in the world. And the way I could atone was by propping up these [climate narratives]. So it was very emotional, emotionally driven, and psychologically driven, and then black and white thinking … a lot of that was happening at a subconscious level. But that is, I think, what first drew me to it and I took it on as an armour.’

In a similar vein, in the same interview, Biggers said, ‘When I was in the climate movement, I got my identity from being a good person and from being on the right side of history

… I’m an oppressor by being a white woman in America and so I need to atone for my sins by pushing and being part of this movement and that is what makes me good.

And so if I’m going to leave this, I’m no longer going to be seen as good, and I’m no longer a good person, so who am I? And then that’s when you have to start doing the work of building up yourself, your sense of self and identity in that internal world, which again, it took me, again, five years between questioning and leaving that job and posting this past year [2025].’

Biggers has differentiated between the traditional conservation and environmental movement and the contemporary climate movement. The latter she describes as the ‘demon spawn of environmentalism’; and said it’s about ‘guilting us for our modern life,’ it’s ‘anti-human, anti-progress’ and ‘very nihilistic.’ Furthermore, Biggers has said ‘it’s not a rational movement. It’s an emotional movement’ with ‘spiritual undertones.’ Significantly, Biggers has said that the climate movement is the next iteration on from socialism and communism, and that non-climate related movements have since emerged as ‘causes de jure’ for young people.

Notably, Biggers said the ideology ‘subverted’ her previous worldview and involved abandoning ‘critical’ and logical thinking. Moreover, she also described how once in the movement her internal sense of self was built on sand and that she would get ‘triggered’, insecure and anxious when someone questioned the foundations of her climate beliefs.

To summarise, Biggers has emphasised her generation’s anxiety about the outlook for humanity and the planet, wanting to feel like a good person and atone for a sense of guilt,  and that her shift was emotionally driven. She also said climate ideology involved the inversion of her worldview and her giving up critical thinking, while rational debate threatened the foundations of her existence and identity….

Biggers’ emphasis on her need to feel like a good person and to atone for guilt is germane and enlightening. While Biggers primarily attributes her anxiety and guilt to environmental damage and identity politics respectively, she does recognise the distressing outlook of her generation more generally.

Applying Griffith’s treatise, her eco-anxiety and white privilege guilt can be framed as an expression of the anxiety and guilt arising from this subconscious domain of the human condition. Likewise, the desire to ‘feel like a good person’ and atone can be framed as a desire to refute the harsh self-judgement stemming from the human condition. This is not to diminish the intensity of the eco-anxiety and white privilege guilt but to suggest these emotions are energised by and an expression of a deeper existential source of anxiety and guilt. Relevantly, Biggers’ reference to the movement providing an identity, persona and ‘armour’ alludes to the psychological need to dissociate and seek protection from underlying painful feelings….

Biggers described the radical changes that accompanied her embrace of the climate movement and abandoning her critical thinking. Grasping the intensity of the shame and guilt at the heart of the human condition, as described by Griffith, provides a compelling explanation of these changes and an answer to Biggers’ question of “How did I get here?”….

Biggers has observed that climate ideology is nihilistic, anti-human, anti-capitalist, anti-progress, anti-West, and is based on the assumption that modern humans are ‘inherently evil’, ‘a fallen species,’ and ‘somehow sinful.’ In contrast, Griffith explains that while the human species is psychologically ‘upset’, we are not intrinsically bad, flawed, sinful, or evil; in fact, our species is heroic for having endured the difficulties of our condition. Put simply, “we are mad—mentally and emotionally—but we are not bad.” The nihilistic and anti-human view can be explained as a projection of an overwhelmed, dark internal state, which, in turn, is a result of the intense ‘upset’ (reality) that younger generations are encountering and trying to adjust to.

The climate movement advocates that humanity ‘go backwards’, not forward

Biggers has explained that climate activists maintain that the human species needs to ‘go back’ to ‘a less developed,’ ‘noble savage,’ and ‘more pure’ way of living. Biggers said ‘the road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and has drawn a parallel between communism and the climate movement trying to bring about ‘heaven on earth.’ On another occasion, Biggers has said that climate activists ‘value life on earth and nature over humanity’ and they ‘prioritise untouched nature and a perfect untouched earth over human flourishing’. Significantly, she asserted ‘the flip needed is to realise the goal isn’t untouched nature, the goal is human flourishing.’

Griffith’s treatise provides an explanation that aligns with and validates Biggers’ intuitions here. He argues that our conscious mind needed freedom from the dogmatic demands of our conscience to experiment and self-manage, from a basis of understanding, and to fulfil its extraordinary potential. Capitalism, the West, hydrocarbons, etc have been the engines that have propelled astronomical progress and knowledge toward fulfilling this potential. While it has been far from perfect, there has been immense purpose and meaning in human progress. Human progress and human flourishing can be understood as profound euphemisms for humanity continuing to seek knowledge, in particular self-knowledge, and ultimately, to explain and solve the human condition.

In this context of Griffith’s work, the call for humanity to ‘go back’ to a less developed society to mitigate the trade-offs is the exact opposite of the direction we need to take. However, the need for psychological relief is now so extreme that people are adamant that we must abandon the pursuit of this goal. There is a growing desire to dogmatically impose utopia rather than stay the course and resolve the human condition. Griffith emphasises how dangerous, immoral and unrealistic this retreat is.

Honest and compassionate insight needed to reach the activist mindset and heal the painful feelings

As mentioned, Biggers has been asked what the most effective ways are to ‘reach across the aisle’ to a climate activist. While Biggers said it needs to come from the person, she also emphasised the importance of people outside the movement showing up as normal, kind, and good people. She went on to mention a specific person who was independent in their views but was also kind to Biggers and modelled the values and the type of person she wanted to be as pivotal in her ‘awakening.’ Presumably, this person’s candour and expression of dignity and respect toward Biggers connected with her at the level that led her to embrace the ideology in the first place. Biggers described contrasting this persons values and secure sense of self with her situation as contributing to being reached, so to speak, and seeing through her activist persona. Elsewhere Biggers described not making young activists feel like ‘fools because I don’t think they are’ and approaching them in an open and supportive manner, resulting in an appreciative and receptive response.

Griffith explains that social justice ‘isms’ have been a vehicle to artificially affirm our worth as ‘good’ and alleviate the painful feelings stemming from the human condition. However, as social justice activism doesn’t resolve the core issue, the foundations of ‘feeling like a good person’ are ‘built on sand’ as Biggers described.

In contrast, Griffith honestly and compassionately explains the cause of our ‘upset’—the clash of our biology and psychology—allowing the guilt and shame to subside. It allows us to own our personal and collective shadow of the human condition. The “shattering experience” of facing our ‘upset’ can subside. It authentically establishes that, as a species, we are tremendously ‘beaten up’ mentally and emotionally by our encounter with REALITY—the human condition—but we are extraordinarily worthwhile. Explanation of the human condition ends the intensifying ‘upset’ that younger generations are exposed to. A key tenet of Griffith’s treatise is that we can know why we are worthwhile despite our ‘upset’. Accordingly, the self-loathing, anger, and need for atonement naturally subside. The nihilistic and anti-human worldview is reversed. The need for the highly compromised, superficial, and artificial compensatory response is obsolete. We can genuinely own and talk about the ‘messes’ that we all are, and this is the key to ‘reaching across’ whatever philosophical or political aisle you like.

Conclusion

Biggers asked the question, “How did I get here?” The clues to answering her question lie in her own description of the emotional machinations of her time in the climate movement. In particular, she emphasised that the climate movement made her ‘feel like a good person’ and provided ‘atonement’ for her sense of guilt. Consistent with this self-worth dimension, Biggers described the role of kindness and respect in emotionally reaching people in the climate movement and in having rational, respectful dialogue.

Griffith explains that social justice ‘isms’ have been a vehicle to artificially affirm our worth as ‘good’ and atone for an existential sense of guilt and shame. These painful feelings of unworthiness stem from the psychologically ‘upset’ state of the human condition that we are necessarily unaware of. In contrast, an honest and compassionate explanation of the root cause of this ‘upset’ allows this guilt and shame to subside. Honest insight into our shared and underlying psychological madness, while confronting, establishes our intrinsic worth, and heals the shame and guilt that is the emotional driver at the heart of secular ‘isms’….

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109 Comments
J Boles
September 17, 2026 6:13 pm

It is OKAY if I do it, as long as I scold others for doing it. (use FF)

September 17, 2026 6:36 pm

Is instilling unreasoning fear and guilt in young people a crime? Should be.

SxyxS
Reply to  idbodbi
September 18, 2026 1:19 am

It’s how you create your future voter base.

There is a Satan, but there is also Big Daddy to save you if you follow all of his orders.
Daddy will then tell you what a good boy/ girl / genderperv you are.
But no matter what you do and how much – the goalpost will be moved, so that the evil can prevails.
An eternal cycle of doing good and feeling scared.

And this makes the APA superhappy, as the rise in bipolar disorders skyrockets.
And they can make a ton more money.
It works like Covid.

GregInHouston
September 17, 2026 7:04 pm

Didn’t read it all, ut was AI fear mentioned??

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  GregInHouston
September 18, 2026 7:10 am

What does AI have to do with an unstoppable climate catastrophe?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 8:59 am

It appears that some Climate Crisis folks are pivoting to the AI Crisis. Got to have something to fear, and something to be active against, to fell good.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 18, 2026 9:55 am

“feel”, clearly.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 18, 2026 10:36 am

Clearly.

MarkW
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 20, 2026 10:17 am

Same psychology.

Sonicsuns
September 17, 2026 9:24 pm

Many of these criticisms could be directed at many movements and philosophies, including Conservative ones.

I hope that Conservatives browsing this website test their own beliefs, and not just those of their political opponents.

Also, Jordan Peterson is not trustworthy.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behind

Reply to  Sonicsuns
September 18, 2026 1:14 am

Yes. This site has stopped being a critical site with some pretence at science and has become rather an echo chamber of [US] Right wing, as opposed to Left wing, dogma.

So I visit it less and respect it less.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 18, 2026 6:55 am

Your choice.
No one is making you come here or read.

You have an opinion.
You believe your opinion is accurate.
I will not argue your belief.

I read both sides all the time.
Neither side has the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everyting.
The reality, the truth too often lies midway between the opposing viewpoints.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 10:03 am

“Neither side has the answer …”. Quite right. And I, too, keep up with both sides of this controversy. However, I have noticed that the Climate Change community has been pretty much wrong on every prediction / projection / forecast made, and continues to stifle all comment by anyone who disagrees with them.

This site has many really good technical discussions about the climate, trying to determine both what is really happening, and the mechanisms behind it. There is debate on this website, with folks providing different mechanism, based on physisc, for what is happening. This site does not stifle folks – many of the opponents of this site continue to offer their ideas, which are discussed, with evidence.

So, has WUWT fallen into the echo chamber you allege. Yes, to some extent. Have correspondents on this site often responded to contrary postings with ad hominem attacks. Regrettably.

However, there is still value here, and people still trying to use science (real science) to establish some of the fundamentals of the climate.

Then there are postings that have nothing to do with climate change, and are a refreshing change.

So, I continue to hear what the Climate Scientists are broadcasting, and I have this site for an alternative viewpoint.

Thanks to WUWT for providing that alternative, if often raucous, alternative.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 18, 2026 10:40 am

The major red flag of one side trying to silence the other is a serious concern and it leads one to consider the open comments more applicable than those accusing any disagreement as having been posted by a “Denier.”

As Einstein said, “Why 100? If I were wrong, one would have been enough.”

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 12:29 pm

Beeton deserves at the very least a warning from the WUWT moderators about his continuous use of the “Denier” invective, it is disgusting.

MarkW
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 20, 2026 10:19 am

The problem is that almost everyone who supports the climate agenda is a creature of the left.
So it’s quite natural that most of those who oppose it are on the other political extreme.

Reply to  Sonicsuns
September 18, 2026 5:32 am

Also, Jordan Peterson is not trustworthy.

Jordan Peterson is entitled to his opinions, just as you are entitled to yours.

If you don’t believe that his opinions that’s ok. What’s not ok is to denigrate someone by using “trust” as a club to showing you don’t agree with him.

You apparently cannot debate views with critical thinking and simply use an Ad Hominem as a way to diminish others. Not a good look.

Sonicsuns
Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 11:58 pm

You tell me that I’m entitled to my opinions, but apparently you don’t think that I’m entitled to the opinion “Jordan Peterson is untrustworthy.” Apparently you think that expressing that opinion is a “club” and an “Ad Hominem” attack.

I find this confusing.

Reply to  Sonicsuns
September 21, 2026 1:02 pm

“Jordan Peterson is untrustworthy.” 

Trust is earned or lost through personal interaction. Trust is not a function of whether you agree with his views or not. If you have had a personal interaction that supports that lack of trust then you can easily verify that. Otherwise, all you can say is that you don’t support his opinions.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Sonicsuns
September 18, 2026 6:52 am

First two sentences raise valid points.

All should be constantly testing their own beliefs versus reality, not merely politics.

drednicolson
September 17, 2026 10:22 pm

When your identity is focused around what’s wrong with the world and how you’re going to fight it, you eventually run out of the wrongs that most people agree about, and have to start inventing new ones that they don’t. Which only pushes the zealotry further as each new cause is smaller and more petty than the last.

(Or those original “wrongs” are still around, but too unpleasant/scary/dangerous for you to want to fight. Seen any self-proclaimed greens go protest coal plants in China lately?)

SxyxS
Reply to  drednicolson
September 18, 2026 1:30 am

While I think it is true that people get addicted to fear and turn to new drugs once the effect of the current one wears off,
I do not think that Chinese Coal plants are anyhow relevant to be considered scary/dangerous.
Too far away.
The level of knowledge simply isn’t there(how many coal plants do they have, how clean are they?)
Even the few with knowledge are too focused on western ones.

If they’d actually give a crap and leave the manufactured bubble they’ll start to worry about the massive pollution that comes with green energy – the mining,the trash,the lack of recycling.

September 18, 2026 1:11 am

Climate activism
Islam
MAGA
BLM
LBGTQ
Radical feminism
WOKE

All seeking salvation and looking for something that tells them what to do. Who to be, so they don’t get left out.

Because no one, but no one, wants to teach them either how to think critically, or simply be themselves.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 18, 2026 6:37 am

Consider including in that valid post that media no longer exists as the bearer of truth.
Media is a profit margin for large corporations in todays digital age.
How best to influence public opinion: Fear and Anger with greed close behind.
So emotionalize the topic with hyperbole.

A wise man once said that figuring things out for yourself it the only true freedom you have.
Those that accept (on an appeal to authority) being told what to think have surrendered that freedom and enslaved themselves to an ideology.

You left out DEI or perhaps you consider that part of WOKE.

September 18, 2026 3:58 am

I think it’s far more interesting to find out why Deniers are attracted to their cult when it has no scientific support?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 5:20 am

As far as I know there are quite a few studies on that.

Wired to Doubt: Why People Fear Vaccines and Climate Change and Mistrust Science

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8849212/

Climate Change Denial

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/climate-change-denial/

The psychology of climate change denial

https://psychology.org.au/community/advocacy-social-issues/environment-climate-change-psychology/resources-for-psychologists-and-others-advocating/the-psychology-of-climate-change-denial

Don’t forget there is a lot of money flowing into right-wing networks and parties to sow doubt, distrust and to further threatening or dehumanizing narratives. Not only when it comes to climate change. 

Remember the “dog and cat” eating claim? The lie turned into an awful time for springfield.

Springfield’s mayor claims emergency powers to ‘mitigate public safety concerns’ as threats continue to swarm city 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/19/us/springfield-mayor-emergency-powers-threats/index.html

American Philanthropy in the Age of Political Polarization

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11615-023-00484-0

The isolation of urban sprawl and a car centric culture seems to have made people far more susceptible to this – as you can see in voting outcomes between cities and the surrounding areas. The daily contact with “the other” in the form of, for example, immigrants / LGTBQ+ people seems to make people less fearful and prejudiced.

Intergroup contact and prejudice toward immigrants: A multinational, multilevel test of the moderating role of individual conservative values and cultural embeddedness
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0147176719303372

It’s all one big (reflecting) pool of goop to divide people, so you can’t really single out climate deniel imho.
Now that turned out a lot longer than I wanted.

Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 5:36 am

Agreed. It’s a goop of conspiracy theorists, Deplorables, and the uneducated.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 7:03 am

“Don’t forget there is a lot of money flowing into right-wing networks and parties to sow doubt, distrust and to further threatening or dehumanizing narratives. Not only when it comes to climate change.”

So, tell us, how much money flowed into your coffers to sow doubt, distrust, and furth threatening and dehumanize this community?

None of us deny the climate changes. We are denying the appeals to authority to accept pronouncements without validation and verification. We do not mistrust science. We mistrust “The Science.”

Robbradleyjr
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 8:44 am

Please help! Free market energy/climate realist groups need donations! There is no “lot of money flowing….”

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Robbradleyjr
September 18, 2026 10:42 am

I know.
A $10,000 donation to perform an environmental study 12 years ago is absolute proof that billions are flowing. Right?

MarkW
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 20, 2026 10:23 am

The left keeps claiming that the other side is funded by evil interests, yet, even when pressed, they can never detail any of these evil interests or actually point to any of this “massive” funding.
The best they can do is to declare that it must exist, because that is what the party has told them to believe.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 5:24 am

You don’t think that at all. You think you have to say something clever like a passive aggressive 14-year old girl, when this article is right over the target – that target being YOU.

Reply to  philincalifornia
September 18, 2026 5:30 am

I have science on my side. You have….other Deniers?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 5:51 am

Don’t forget about Koch, Exxon and many others that have asolutly no financial interests in all of this…

And their well fed lapdogs heartland, heritage foundation and cfact.

Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 5:54 am

Yes. There are the creators and instigators of anti-Reason. And those that digest and spread what the instigators create.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 20, 2026 10:25 am

And once again, loosername comes up with trite, disproven boogy men instead of actual data.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 6:07 am

You have “science” on your side, like Dr. Fauci, who claimed to be “the science” after he was instrumental in killing millions worldwide. You are an ignorant savage. You also believe in murdering the unborn and transing the kids. Such a scientist you are. Show us your membership card in the Democratic Socialists of America.

Your trolling with empty, worthless quips is quite tiresome.

Reply to  pflashgordon
September 18, 2026 6:17 am

Now did covid kill millions or was it just a hoax? You have to pick your side.

You also believe in murdering the unborn and transing the kids.

And here we can see the product of right-wing indoctrination. Uninformed and full of hatred of what he doesn’t understand.

DipChip
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 10:00 am

Now did the vacine save millions or was it just a hoax? You have to pick your side.

Dr Fauci “The Man of Science.

And here we can see the product of left-wing indoctrination. Uninformed and full of hatred of what the Opposition understands.

Reply to  DipChip
September 18, 2026 4:16 pm

Nope. Informed, like good scientists are as well, not uninformed and rejecting science like Deniers.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 6:58 am

Science does not take sides.

Flame warrior!

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 8:29 am

Do you think Drniers actually have a side?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 10:48 am

I have no clue what a “Drnier” is.

That aside, we side with open, all points considered, scientific method, not ideology.

The only thing we deny is to allow someone to tell us what to think. We do not embrace an ideology.

Scientific method is not an ideology.
Replication of experimental results.
Data, not models.
Null hypothesis testing.
Open and candid discussions that do not start by silencing anyone.

We will silence sophistry and ad hominem attacks as those are unrelated to science. Something you do not seem to grok.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 11:21 am

I see no evidence that you have been silenced, SpartaN. To the contrary, I see you freely spouting all sorts of nonsense

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 12:49 pm

According to you I am a “Denier.”
According to you I am a conspiracy theorist, Deplorable, and uneducated.

I have not been silenced even through the tsunamis of your attempts. You have failed time and time again.

So you are correct.
You have seen no evidence that you have silenced me.

“I see you freely spouting all sorts of nonsense”

And yet again you fail.

Hint: Ad hominems do not work.
You are a rank amateur in that field.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 12:55 pm

Sorry, but I never said you were a Denier. Do you feel guilty?

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:26 am

As usual, Warren and LoserName can’t be bothered with actual facts. Like most good leftists, they actually believe that proper arguments begin and end with insulting those who oppose the party.

Reply to  MarkW
September 20, 2026 10:32 am

You are insulted only if you believe you’re a Denier. Is that what you believe?

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:24 am

You have no science on your side, you just have insults for those who fail to follow the party diktats the way you have been trained to do.

Reply to  MarkW
September 20, 2026 10:30 am

sorry, but I only follow scientific research. That way I am assured that science is on my side.
in contrast to Deniers, who don’t follow any science, just each others unsupported BELIEFS.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 5:40 am

There you go, everyone who doesn’t have the same thoughts and conclusions as you are totally stupid! Did you read the article? You certainly appear to be a in need of validation of your self-worth.

You might want to consider exactly how and why you have the moral and intellectual right to tell others what to think, what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. You might want to delve into the symptom of narcissism while you are at it.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 5:46 am

In case you hadn’t heard, Gorman, it’s a free country and you can “think” however you want. If you can call that “thinking”.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 8:19 am

But I am not the one telling folks that they must give up gasoline and natural gas. That the must buy EV’s. That they must wear masks. That they must move into 15 minute cities. That they must not eat meat or dairy. That they can’t complain about unreliable wind and solar killing eagles and whales.

And why are you selling that snake oil when there is not as much proof that it is necessary as the snake oil?

These terms have been around forever in psychology, narcissism and delusions of grandeur. Those terms describe dictators who believe their morality and intelligence entitle them tell others how to live their lives. Look in the mirror. Are you entitled to tell others how to live their lives?

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 10:05 am

Since no one is mandating how you must think, are you hallucinating?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 10:18 am

Since no one is mandating how you must think, are you hallucinating?

So all your ad hominem attacks about not being smart or not knowing science are what? They sure look like you attempting to force someone to believe in your consensus views or shut up.

That is attempting to control what is thought and what is heard. If you want to have people believe you, don’t use the word denier here again.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 10:51 am

Perhaps not so much believe him as much as openly discussing his point of view.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 11:20 am

Are you a bit sensitive, Gorman? Could it be that you are secretly admitting you are a Denier of the unanimous (99.9%)conclusion of Scientific research that the Earth is warming and Man is the Cause?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 12:55 pm

No. Gorman is not secretly admitting anything.
He is publicly stating his beliefs.

It is your beliefs that are way wrong.
If you think man is the cause, then turn off your computer and stop using electricity.
While you are at it, stop breathing. You contribute a lot of CO2.

Question:
Did you personally read all of those thousands of research papers?

If not, then you are accepting someone else’s opinion without verification or validation.

That makes you a science denier.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 1:03 pm

Gorman has lots of strong beliefs. But an understanding of the scientific research on the climate? Not so much.

I do not have ‘beliefs’. But I read and understand the basics of Climate Research.
I also note Deniers think they have found fundamental flaws in the 130+ years of climate research conducted by the world’s scientists, and therefore share a common dysfunction: Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 3:47 pm

Gorman has lots of strong beliefs. But an understanding of the scientific research on the climate? Not so much.

Oh, that’s right you are superior in your knowledge of science to me! You read and understand peer reviewed papers so you understand the basics of Climate Research.

You should be able to lay your hands on a peer reviewed paper that has analyzed how insolation is absorbed by land and diffused to 20 – 50 cm rather than being radiated as IR. Since that is the very first process of energy transfer it should be very well studied.

Please provide us with your wisdom about the subject.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 4:07 pm

Another post that reveals your ignorance and failure to think more than 20-50cm.
You don’t seem to know that energy in from the sun must ~ equal energy out from earths system. Or know that the energy out is in the form of thermal radiation radiated by earth at IR frequency minus IR sent back to earth by greenhouse gases which absorb and re radiate a portion back to earth, warming it. Got it now?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 19, 2026 9:36 am

You don’t seem to know that energy in from the sun must ~ equal energy out from earths system. 

You have no idea what you are talking about.

There is a temperature gradient from the soil surface to depth. That ΔT takes energy absorption into the earth due to conduction. That is energy that is not immediately radiated as IR into the atmosphere, it is stored. One can see that by monitoring the temperature change.

Here is a graph for you to peruse. Why do you think the temp at 10 cm is sometimes higher than at 5 cm? You reckon some storage is going on? Does it appear to have higher temps at depths when the surface warms? That means more energy is being diffused downward. All that takes away from upward radiated IR, capisce?
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Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 19, 2026 10:08 am

So Gorman, you deny that the first law applies to earth’s system?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 19, 2026 12:05 pm

So Gorman, you deny that the first law applies to earth’s system?

You are hilarious. Do you deny that storage can occur in a heat sink? Do you deny that that conducton exists? Do you think radiation is the only form of energy transfer?

Think about dude, does your frying pan go to room temperature instantly after you turn the burner off? Think of the burner as the sun and the pan as the ocean/land.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 19, 2026 1:39 pm

I’m taking note that you refuse to affirm the validity of the First Law as applied to Earth’s System. But that’s consistent with your overall approach to science — you refuse to accept known scientific principles whenever they fail to deliver the answers you want to hear.

MarkW
Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 10:29 am

Science is whatever the party says it is.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 3:11 pm

I am a denier of the fact that there is any evidentiary experimental data that validates a functional relationship between CO2 and insolation. There are too many internal processes within the sphere of earth to have just one. Insolation to ocean. Insolation to land. Ocean to atmosphere. land to atmosphere. Climate science has ignored this since the beginning.

Trying to tie incoming energy directly to energy out will not work without a system of equations that address the differences in these processes.

Call me what you will but you cannot show that climate science has dealt with these processes in a straightforward manner.

Show us a paper that that has equations for heat absorption and storage during daytime, and heat emissions for a full 24 hours for land. If you cannot find a comprehensive paper that solves this, then you are operating on faith alone and not scientific evidence. If you cannot find such a source, then you become the denier of science.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 3:45 pm

Your post is absurd, Gorman. Of course CO2 doesn’t interfere with the suns rays . It interferes with the LOW FREQUENCY IR given off by the earth on its way to space, instead sending it back to earth, warming it. Greenhouse gases are a one way restriction — interfering with low frequency thermal radiation only.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 3:58 pm

Your post is absurd, Gorman. Of course CO2 doesn’t interfere with the suns rays .

You really should learn to read. Neither of my last two messages dealt with CO2.

The sun warms the oceans and the land. That is the first process involved in the sun-earth-atmosphere. Got that? Sun –> Land!

Show us some Climate Science knowledge that you have a basic understanding of about how that process works. What are the two basic equations involved with diffusion into the earth and emission of IR.

You see, both you and Climate Science want to start with temperature of the atmosphere but you have no knowledge of the exchange of energy that occurs between the sun and the land. It is not a transparent process where the all the sun’s energy is instantly converted to IR and radiated away. What does that mean? It means you cannot start with temperature because you don’t know the path that was taken. That path is very important in thermodynamics which I’m sure you know.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 4:21 pm

“Trying to tie incoming energy directly to energy out will not work without a system of equations that address the differences in these processes.”. You mean the First Law isn’t valid unless Gorman understands the internal flow of energy within that system? We were taught there were no exceptions to the first Law. Where did you go to University, Gorman?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 5:46 am

You mean the First Law isn’t valid unless Gorman understands the internal flow of energy within that system?

You are a neophyte who has not studied physics or thermodynamics. A simple equation (Ein = Eout) taught to beginners is not sufficient to characterize a system.

I have asked you several questions and your refusal to answer them in even basic terms is indicative of your knowledge. Some symbolic equations involved with time would show you have an inkling of how the system works.

Think about (it) dude, does your frying pan go to room temperature instantly after you turn the burner off?Show us a paper that that has equations for heat absorption and storage during daytime, and heat emissions for a full 24 hours for land.What are the two basic equations involved with diffusion into the earth and emission of IR.
You seem to be oblivious to the fact that the ocean can store heat for weeks, months, years, centuries. That is energy that is not radiated so it can leave the system, i.e., Eout.

That means there is gradient involved that has time as variable. Something like:
Ein = Eout(time) + Estored(time)

I will give you a hint.

Ein(day) ≠ Eout(day)Ein((month) ≠ Eout(month)Ein(annual) ≈ Eout(annual) [maybe]Ein(century) = Eout(century) [probably]
The very GHG theory you are so fond of establishes the fact that constant warming requires the trapping (storage) of energy (heat). The energy imbalance that warmists like you requires the storage of energy (heat) which causes increased temperature. These do not fit in with Ein = Eout.

I am trying to show you that the storage of energy doesn’t occur in the atmosphere, it occurs in the liquid ocean and the land’s soil. So far you have done nothing to disprove that.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 6:12 am

There’s part of your confusion, Gorman. Characterization of how heat flows internally isn’t necessary to apply the 1st Law and know that the difference between heat in and heat out is the energy heating earths system. Further measurements show that over 93%of the heat inbalance goes into the oceans and only a few % to the atmosphere. All of this has been done in the peer reviewed literature,Gorman (I certainly wouldn’t trust your calculations ).
The next step you might take is calculate the heat imbalance from radiation theory and validate the results using the results from the previous 1st Law calculations. If you checked the peer reviewed literature, you’d find that the rise in greenhouse gas concentrations — ie, CO2, ch4, N2O, HFCs, sf6 — are the source of that heat inbalance. Such calculations, which you can find in the literature– blow a gaping hole in your nonsense claims that rapid heating of the planet isn’t caused by the rise in those greenhouse gases.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:55 am

The next step you might take is calculate the heat imbalance from radiation theory and validate the results using the results from the previous 1st Law calculations. 

You only mention radiation. There is more going on. You keep deflecting from my point about storage.

You mention that 93% of the imbalance goes into the ocean. How does Ein = E out in that case?

Did you not read my post where I said “Ein = Eout(time) + Estored(time)”.

You started out using Ein = E out by referring to the first law of thermodynamics and saying I did not believe in it. It was me that told you that is not all there is, that energy storage must be considered also. Now you are trying to turn the conversation as if you knew Ein ≠ Eout.

You still miss the fact that stored heat warms the oceans and the land. It is not radiated into the atmosphere to warm it. The heat remains at depth and is not immediately lost.

Look at these graphs.

Does it look to like the stored energy at 5 & 10 cm is disappearing?

That means it is not being radiated away.

Look at the soils surface vs the air temperature.

Can a cold atmosphere warm a warmer surface?

You should explain how that happens.

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Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 11:05 am

Ahem. I didn’t say ein = e out. I said the First Law applies. Which says the internal energy of the system will rise if ein is > eout. No need to understand the ebbs and flows of internal energy in order to know that the internal energy (and therefore temperature) of earths system will rise if outgoing thermal radiation is restricted such that an energy imbalance occurs. Recall Arrhenius?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 2:00 pm

You don’t seem to know that energy in from the sun must ~ equal energy out from earths system. 

That ia Ein = Eout.

When I attempted to say that storage of heat in the ocean and land means some energy is not radiated and showed a graph at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2026/09/17/why-feel-good-climate-activism/#comment-4242846, you responded with.

So Gorman, you deny that the first law applies to earth’s system?

In other words you were saying you don’t believe storage occurs.

Now you are taking the position that:

Which says the internal energy of the system will rise if ein is > eout.

And you just said Ein = Eout + Eestored. Just like I said before!!

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 2:19 pm

guess what? THE energy stored in the ATMOSPHERE, LAND, RIVERS, AND OCEANS is the heat unbalance. Once you know that sum, (or once you know earths energy budget) , you have the complete picture. Pretty soon you will have confirmed the peer reviewed science, Gorman.

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:27 am

Nobody said you couldn’t think what you wanted to think.
Are you feeling guilty?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 6:59 am

Don’t sugar coat it like that, Jim. Tell us how you really feel. 🙂

(I concur, but consensus is opinion, not validation).

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 6:01 am

I don’t “deny” the climate has warmed a degree in the last century. But I’d sure like to deny the various self-proclaimed do-gooders access to my hard earned cash in their attempts to “fix” that outdoor temperature….

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 6:57 am

Right on cue and I did not even have to leave catnip for you to pounce on.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 18, 2026 12:34 pm

I have yet to find a Denier and as such have not discovered their cult.

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:21 am

That’s only true when you define science as being that which you agree with.

Reply to  MarkW
September 20, 2026 10:28 am

You’ve put your finger on it! That’s exactly what Deniers do. They can’t accept anything scientific research concludes about the climate, so they deny the science, and instead search out like opinions. And this is why they become denizens of WUWT — and mutually reinforce each other’s OPINIONS.

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 10:31 am

You are so clueless, no wonder you always parrot the party line.

September 18, 2026 5:52 am

In my doddering old age I have come to the conclusion that there are two types of people.

Leftist liberals – I am better than you therefore you should do as I tell you.
Rightist conservatives – Leave me the hell alone, I’ll do as I please with my individual freedom.

It is a dichotomy that will be an eternal rift among humans. It is why leftists spawn dictators, and conservatives are prone to isolation.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 18, 2026 5:56 am

Strange how the left ideology ends in anarchism while the right one leads to fascism. But don’t let this small detail bother your worldview.

Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 8:52 am

The left ends in dictators not anarchism. You mistake anarchism as a goal rather than a means to exert control over people when law and order degenerate.

I hate to tell you this but fascism leads to dictators telling everyone what to do. It is practiced by left leaning dictators that as a means to exert power. The two most well known fascist dictators were Hitler and Mussolini. There is no way you can describe them as right wing conservatives.

The left-wing today breaks people up into groups. What do you think Hitler did? He was the brightest star ever in defining groups that were not favored. Jews, blacks, gypsies, invalids, Slavs, etc. He advocated for absolute obedience to an authoritative person. He decried democracy. In other words, he was a leftist who felt he was above the populace and could tell people what to do.

Mussolini was a full blown socialist who morphed into fascism and authoritative control. His father was a committed socialist and Marxist. Not exactly what you would call right wing.

You betray your education with your lack of knowledge.

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 9:04 am

Totalitarians (anarchists, fascists, dictators) aren’t aligned with any specific ideologies or political positions.
In fact, their only ideology (if you want to use that -ism), is unrestrained narcissism.
Totalitarians use politicians, political parties, governments, religions, ideologies, whatever as useful idiots to assure their total command over all matters, people and things that satisfy their desires.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
September 18, 2026 10:57 am

Funny how fascism sprouts, historically, from socialism.

I do so hate the left and right sobriquets.
It was easier to comprehend politics when the monikers used were:
progressive
liberal
moderate
conservative
regressive

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 20, 2026 10:33 am

The left ends in anarchy?
Wow, you really do live in a reality of your own making.

BTW, fascism is a form of socialism.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
September 20, 2026 11:01 am

There’s another type of individual — a non expert who magically believes they’ve discovered fundamental flaws in the body of scientific literature, and insists that scientists have been wrong for a century (eg, Arrhenius who was the first to quantify the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect, and the scientists who confirmed and refined his work over the next 130 years). The psychological research shows that such a person — who insists the experts are wrong and only he knows their work is flawed– is most likely to be very uninformed on the subject.
The name given to this syndrome is ‘Dunning- Kruger’.
Gorman, why don’t you turn yourself over for examination as a prime candidate for this illness?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
September 20, 2026 12:41 pm

The name given to this syndrome is ‘Dunning- Kruger’.

Gorman, why don’t you turn yourself over for examination as a prime candidate for this illness?

Are you getting tired of not having answers to criticism? Your Ad Hominem attacks are not a good look when it comes to answering facts. Perhaps some more studying would help provide you with cogent and relative answers.

September 18, 2026 6:19 am

I went through a brief period of eco-anxiety before turning to the arguments put forward by skeptics. What did I have to lose, after all? My intellectual purity, the alarmists would reply… Or my purity altogether, as the good believers they are.

When it lasts too long, anxiety is truly poisonous to both body. It exhausts you, drains you, makes you paranoid and aggressive. That does not make it pathological, however: on the contrary, it is an entirely natural mechanism, generated by opportunistic headlines, statements from media-friendly scientists and activists; in much the same way that the fear of eternal damnation was perfectly understandable in an era when religious fundamentalism prevailed, with prelates promising you dissolution in cauldrons filled with boiling sulfur because you had not been good Christians.

In fact, the more people learn about climate and environmental issues, the less afraid they are of a climate “Apocalypse.” I am living proof of that.

Eco-anxiety is not a pathology; it is the natural response to a form of information processing that has itself become pathological through its opportunism, bad faith, activism, anti-humanism, perpetual guilt-tripping, and propensity to spread shameless propaganda that seeps into the minds of people, more or less young, whose critical faculties have been patiently dismantled.

Reply to  Charles Armand
September 18, 2026 6:26 am

So because you could’t cope with your feelings you turned to denial? And now you project your inability for internal regulation to everyone else?

Fun fact: Most people are aware of human made climate change and instead of hiding or cowering in fear they try to improve things and move on with their lives.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsernameReloaded
September 18, 2026 11:03 am

I was not aware that 48% constituted most people.
Only 43% are willing to donate money to the climate change “cause.”

Of course one can find a report that differs and supports whatever point of view one prefers. In other words, there are no verifiable data that supports your “fun fact.”

Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 6:31 am

This analysis is spot on.

Simplified (perhaps overly simplified):

anxiety is characterized by feelings of helplessness
[activism] offering a sense of control and purpose

Those are biggies. Narcissism is also a major factor.

One of the things I have noted in my journey through life is that human beings need a belief in something greater than themselves.

As religious beliefs offered by churches are cast off we are left with nothing to keep our pride in check. We lose our “moral compass.”

Note: faith and religion/church are two different things and through history, church has manipulated religion to control the people.

Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 7:09 am

Please take note that two of our “favorite trolls,” Warren Beeton and MyUsernameReloaded are posting about anything and everything except the article, complete with the usual and totally unoriginal Ad Hominems.

Maybe it’s time to unpack some catnip and play with them?

Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 7:17 am

Now we watch with amusement while WB and MUR play tag team with each other.

And I did not even need to put out catnip.

Flame on, Flame Warriors.

Mr.
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 18, 2026 9:51 am

All they need now is TFN to join in and the circle-jerk would be complete.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
September 18, 2026 11:04 am

Thanks for the smile. “Circle-jerk.”

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
September 19, 2026 4:24 am
  • a gaggle of geese
  • a litter of puppies
  • a flock of ducks
  • a pride of lions
  • a pack of wolves
  • a murder of crows
  • a circle-jerk of climate crackpots
September 18, 2026 10:34 am

About 80% of the earth’s “climate” is water, ice and snow. I haven’t read any recent reports about any climate crisis in the vast Pacific ocean. The only recent climate crisis in the US is the mega drought and water shortage in the Southwest.

Who are these chicken littles running around squawking “climate crisis, climate crisis”?

MarkW
Reply to  Harold Pierce
September 20, 2026 10:37 am

The American southwest has always suffered from the occasional mega drought. Tree ring records show that some of these droughts lasted over 200 years.

September 18, 2026 8:40 pm

A primary take away: if climate alarmists are driven by psychological factors ( as most generally stated in this article ) and we ( as anti alarmists are arguing from facts) , we will never reach any common ground & we have 0% chance of bringing alarmists to our point of view

Reply to  Jeff L
September 18, 2026 8:41 pm

And of course, if anyone sees common ground, I would love to hear thoughts around that

Reply to  Jeff L
September 18, 2026 10:20 pm

Common ground with that pair of scientific retards? No thank you. Read their comments, where they pretend that they know something about the science and they boil down to “it’s simple physics”, a concept that accurately explains their juvenile understanding of atmospheric physics.

MarkW
Reply to  philincalifornia
September 20, 2026 10:38 am

It’s amazing how most climate alarmists seem to feel that “you are just a denier” counts as a scientific argument.

Bruce Cobb
September 19, 2026 3:24 am

So to put it simply, Climatists are cuckoo for coconuts CRAZY.
I knew it!

sherro01
September 19, 2026 4:36 pm

We can read of many explanations why greens are so primitive and destructive of a normal, happy society, but usually conspicuous by its absence is the explanation of ‘Low IQ’.
People are unable to choose their IQ at birth or change it later, so it is not fair to criticise people like greens simply because they were born dumb. BUT, those who know they were dealt a bad hand should not go down the SAY NO, radical feral environmental path because they have near zero chance of doing better than Nature.
‘Protection of the environment’ was a wonderful invention to turn into a cause. It is a shame that numerous people who say Yes to improvement plans get demonised and silenced by low IQ greens who have been rewarded by each other for saying No. Half of the population is below average IQ. Geoff S