Essay by Eric Worrall
A new chapter in the horror being inflicted on Dutch farmers, in the name of climate action and fertiliser use reduction.
EU Backs Dutch Scheme to Forcibly Shut Down Thousands of Farms, Ban Farmers From Returning to Agriculture Forever
The European Commission in Brussels has backed a scheme by the globalist government of Prime Minister Mark Rutte in the Netherlands that would see thousands of farms shut down in order to comply with EU climate goals.
On Tuesday, the governing arm of the European Union officially threw its support behind plans by the Dutch government to buy out thousands of farmers from their lands in order to meet the EU’s Natura 2000 scheme to protect certain environments. The plan, which would offer farmers 120 per cent of the value of their farm, could see some 3,000 so-called “peak” emitters of nitrogen shut down.
In addition to the plan to buyout — or eventually force out if they refuse — the “peak” emitting farms, the government is also planning a separate scheme that would give dairy, pig, and poultry farmers a deal for 100 per cent of the value of their farm if they wished to shut down. In total, some 1.4 billion euros is expected to be set aside for both farm shutdown schemes.
Should the plan go ahead, it would not only be a major blow for the farming industry in the Netherlands, which is one of the most productive in Europe but could potentially impact other nations as well, given that part of the condition of the buyout scheme is that the Dutch farmers would be prohibited from moving to other countries and starting up farms abroad, meaning that their knowledge and expertise would be squandered.
…Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/05/03/eu-backs-dutch-scheme-to-forcibly-shut-down-thousands-of-farms-ban-farmers-from-returning-to-agriculture-forever/
This isn’t a plan to reduce agriculture in the Netherlands, in my opinion this is a plan to reduce global food production.
If farmers want to keep the compensation money received from the EU, for the coerced surrender of their farms, they also have to sign a contract to never farm again – just to receive money, compensation for seized assets which are rightfully theirs.
Except those farms are more than just assets, they are places built with love, with backbreaking labor, places full of memories, where children were raised, places full of community and tradition. All ruined now, by the rising cadre of European green communists who believe their glorious social goals are more important than food production.
Heinrich Himmler was a great advocate for biodynamic farming. The grandchildren of the NSDAP apparently now run Brussels.
Well, they ARE Socialists, after all.
So was Sri Lanka
We can only hope the same fate awaits the Dutch government
The question is Who runs Brussels ? Who are the wizards behind the curtain ?
They are trying very hard to look like puppies for the WEF.
The Eurofascist kleptocracy isn’t referred to as the Fourth Reich for nothing.
Remember, Benito Mussolini’s favoured synonym for Fascism was Corporate Socialism.
I think it is a trick trying to get land cheaply.
Bill Gates, call your office.
I think it is a trick trying to get land cheaply.
Not sure I see how the “you can’t farm anywhere else” falls into that.
The craziest governments are often the religious ones. And the Greens worship a misanthropic god…
Growing nutritious food and flowers of exquisite beauty is WICKED, and must be PUNISHED!
So sayeth the Greenies. They know better than all those dumb hicks who till soil.
Really? Can you name any “religious governments” crazier than Joe Stalin’s Communist USSR, or Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany, or Pol Pot’s Communist (or whatever) Cambodia? Or perhaps you regard Communism and National Socialism as religions. In which case any ideology becomes religious and your argument is circular: All governments have an ideology, all ideologies are religious, therefore the craziest governments are religious ones. You could, of course, argue that Biden’s government is crazy (true) and that as Joe Biden is a Catholic (questionable) his government is religious. The only problem with that argument is that Biden has explicitly declared that he does not intend to impose his religious views on other people. Thus, although the Catholic Church declares abortion to be intrinsically evil (ie. always evil), Biden is one of the most enthusiastic political leaders who are pushing abortion.
“Or perhaps you regard Communism and National Socialism as religions”.
They are, in fact.
All Socialist, the vile “Religion without a God” that replaces the Deity with The State, its Three Pillars of Greed, Sloth and Envy firmly rooted in a foundation of hatred of the Other.
And look at the AGW religion, complete with Indulgences AKA Carbon Credits.
This state power play giving themselves authority to shut down whole swathes of private business they personally do not have any understanding of has gone to far. Democracy is still the dominant political system in the Western world but these forced evictions with menaces and compensation with strict conditions are not the work of a democratic government.
The fact the EU is pushing this speaks volumes. The EU is not a democratic body in any conventional sense of the word. The totalitarian mindset operating in the EU Commission and downward is straight out of ‘ How to be a good Fascist’ by Karl Marx.
As the Green New Deal demonstrators in Melbourne revealed when they raised their arms shouting, Seek higher!, seek higher!. seek higher!, those of us witnessing that march in 2019 knew exactly what was inspiring them. We also, could see what their tactics would be. Well here we are in Holland of all places.
EU farmers are massively subsidised, so much that without it most farmers couldnt operate.
They just have to withdraw the subsidies for those not meeting the newest bureaucrats rules.
The fact that they don’t tells me you are wrong.
But they don’t want to withdraw subsidies, they want to drive out all those darn farmers that think they know better than the EU what to plant and when. If the farmers had just ‘behaved’, acted like the feudal serfs the Brussels clique thinks they are, they would have been allowed to starve on their farms. Once those evil farmers are gone, the EU will subsidize the corporate farms belonging to their friends’ investment funds.
Duker, European food inflation is just under 20% per annum. Along with energy inflation, this is putting immense pressure on poor people.
Normally I’d agree about withdrawing subsidies, but does this really seem a smart time to tinker with food production, when there is already a big shortfall driving up prices?
“The Netherlands is the second-largest food exporter on the planet, selling some €94-billion worth of goods on world markets last year.”
And with what is the Netherlands going to replace all those food exports in order to pay for its imports?
Unlike ruinable energy tax breaks and subsidies to produce unreliable energy, farm subsidies serve as a buffer against the vagaries of weather and commodity prices. It represents a societal recognition that we must eat to live and are dependent on the continued solvency of farmers to be able to grow that food.
Such farm subsidies aren’t there to make a bunch of grifters rich the way “green” technology incentives do. In general, “green” means inefficient, poor production and uneconomical.
In my travels, I have not seen many farmhouse mansions, or met many farmers who are got rich off of farm subsidies. Kids don’t dream of growing up and “making the big bucks” going into farming.
Duker poking his nose up over the parapet again.
Here is the question for Duker .
Where is the food coming from if these farms are shut down?
The EU has given subsidies to food producers for food security for their population rather than relying on countries out side of Europe.
Now the Dutch government are attempting to close down a lot of farms because of the unproven threat of climate change .
The UN stated in the Paris Agreement on Climate in artical 2 B
This states (Increasing the ability to adapt to climate change and foster resilience and low greenhouse emissions in a manner THAT DOES NOT THREATEN FOOD PRODUCTION.)
These unelected bureaucrats are pushing ahead with this lunacy directly at odds with the UN.
I cannot see how destroying farms can help the climate or the Dutch economy .
The world has a massive problem with the green movement that their beliefs is so far away from reality
In New Zealand our green infested are encouraging the purchase of our sheep and beef farms to overseas investors to plant carbon forests which will never be harvested with the carbon credits flowing over seas.
The greens are against nitrogen fertilizer because they believe that nitrous oxide will cook the world but they don’t care about the 4 billion people that will starve that are now fed by using nitrogen fertilizer.
Food production and security should be put above climate objectives .
“Where is the food coming from if these farms are shut down?”
Why, government farms, of course! Because everything government touches works perfectly, more cheaply, and WAY more efficiently.
Pardon me while I puke.
The Soviet Union relied on food supplies from the Arctic convoys to keep them in the war as their own agriculture was so inept and inefficient.
They are mainly postage stamp sized and uneconomic.
Netherlands has smallest average herd size of around 150:cows, newer members of EU are around 12 cows each farm
150 head is a reasonable herd. Turning off 120-odd yearlings per year would be decent money at current prices.
so a lot of small caring in touch farmers producing cleaner healthier isnt good?
but CAFO and massive sheds for pigs and chooks making massive industrial profits from misery of the animals is better is it?
So, Duker, what are your thoughts on “Dutch farmers would be prohibited from moving to other countries and starting up farms abroad”?
I’m sorry, what math has 150 being less than 12?
and we can say the same for usa farms? 1500 to NOT plant I remember reading.
aussie farms dont get subsidised our$ is devalued by us$ and yet we compete even with lousy soils and far higher wages machinery costs etc
Command economy on steroids!
Command economies are fixated on making water flow uphill. They always end in economic and human catastrophe.
Another gruesome step in European suicide that began in 1914. It’s especially tragic that this should happen in the Netherlands, a country that’s maintained highly productive, efficient agriculture despite a high population density, frequent wars, and a low-lying, storm-lashed coastline.
Some of the Netherlands’ highest value crops are bulbs — tulips, daffodils, hyacinths and more, exported and cherished all over the world. These flowers of exquisite beauty should be sacrificed to appease the Angry Green Sky Dragon?
The Netherlands also produces high-quality dairy products, widely emulated elsewhere.
How deranged and destructive can “environmental” policies get?
“Another gruesome step in European suicide that began in 1914.”
Meaning what? Not saying you’re wrong- just want a sense of what you mean.
Europe led the world starting with the Age of Discovery in the 15th century until the beginning of WW I in 1914. They thought they could resume leadership after that enormous bloodletting. Instead, they’ve been throwing it all away, bit by painful bit, with quack ideologies, more bloodletting, and self-destructive socio-economic policies.
Efficient ? The EU farming is a massive subsidised and tariff protected operation.
American farmers, no slouches for getting the government to protect them and subsidise them, would leave them in the shade
EU farming is efficient in crop quality, output per unit of labor, and yield per acre. Yield is the closest measure of efficiency in harnessing sunlight — something everyone favors, or claims to favor.
Subsidies are another layer of political manipulation, but do not directly affect efficiency.
You have not answered the question that I asked you Duker .
You are full of BS so where will the food come from to feed the Dutch people when these farms are shut down?
You sound like the dopey dangerous Green Party here in New Zealand ( as you certainly sound like you voted for them or Jacinda )
All countries in the world are the same as families in that they cannot continually spend more than they earn ,because they become poorer untill they eventually go broke .
All countries need exports to pay for imports but the greens are driven by ideology and seem to want to destroy their countries economies .
Duker why don’t you tell the readers here that New Zealand exports food to the world to feed over 30 million and that we have the lowest emissions in the world on our food exports .
Tell the readers here that the government is trying to restrict our exports in the vain quest of reducing the world wide emissions of CO2 CH4 and NO2.
The food has to be grown some where to feed 8 billion people so why would you restrict food production with the lowest emission profile in the world ?.
You and this government have your heads in the sand if you cannot see what is happening around the world .
The Paris agreement on climate change, that you and the greens love to quote ,states quite clearly that we should not be taking action to reduce food supplies to the world . New Zealand should be expanding our agriculture as we have very low food production emissions .
Instead we are encouraging carbon farming that will feed no one and eventually burn as the pine trees age .
Im talking about EU farmers .
It’s their subsidies which mean they are in thrall to governments already, the piper calls the tune.
For Netherland s it’s not so much CO2 but the intensive farming produces nitrogen poisoning killing the waterwys
There is no doubt that nirtogen fertilsers are crucial to providing the food that the 8 billion people in the world need. Or do you deny that?
Now, it’s possible that nitrogen fertilisers have some effect on the quality of water in waterways. But are they “killing” those waterways?
Which is more rational: to stop the use of nitrogen fertilisers and reduce world food security, threatening the existence of millions of people because of some threat to waterways or carry on using the fertilisers and making sure that people are fed adequately and find a solution to the waterways problem that still allows farmers to use nitrogen fertilisers?
curious that before nitrogen because the de jour badguy it was phosphorus and they removed it from all detergents etc and headpatted for saving the world
did it really do anything much? doubtful
funny thing is? those farms that were there BEFORE they declared areas outofbounds for greentardery…are not and probably were not before doing damage to the waterways of any great note. they manage to completely avoid showing ANY actual proveable damage to anything, just wild claims as usual
This is insane. Blatantly stopping food production ….. for what? Control, that’s the only answer. If Europe doesn’t see this happening ….. which I think they do …. they’re in more trouble than they know.
Could this have anything to do with it?
The EU faces an annual funding shortfall of some €12 billion once the U.K. leaves the bloc in 2019, a sudden loss that worries farmers. As the CAP represents almost 40 percent of the EU budget, they know they are prime targets for the chop.
Never farm again? this is too wierd.
“The positive effects transcend any distortions of the free market,” the statement added.
The above statement (if genuinely believed, and not just conniving crap) would show how truly stupid the leaders are. They have no idea of the effects & unintended consequences of the action, let alone the fallout from adopting/enforcing/allowing such a policy and setting a precident.
As always, it is so weird & difficult to tell if it is straight stupidity&ignorance, or if it is conniving/evil intent.
If the 3000 farm families pooled the 1.4 billion, got 8% on their money, they would end up with $37,000 a year average (before taxes). My guess is that they are averaging more than that now … my guess is that they are putting more than that $37,000 into the local economies now (not counting what their net is).
Although, it would be cool if they could all get different jobs to survive short term; not spend, but pool the money; and use the 1.4 billion to hammer the Dutch govt. Not caring if they survived in the long term, but doing enough good to protect others. 1,000 years from now there could be a movie called ‘The 3000’.
(can somebody do a mock up of Mark Rutte, all tattooed/pierced up & looking like Xerxes in the movie … “We will blot out the sun with our arrows”. And the little dutch boy farmer replies “… then we will fight in the dark”)
I poked the calculator buttons again. At a payout of 1.4 Billion, and a 120% value, for 3,000 ‘farms’, the average is less than $400,000.
Some places in Oregon … you can’t even get a (decent) double-wide for $400,000. If I can get even fifty acres (with a livable shack) in the Netherlands for $380,000, I leave now.
Something (outside of the entire concept) is wrong with the story.
Bratbart interns cant do their numbers
E25 billion over a longer period sounds more like it
Give me 25 Billion & I can reduce the Nitrate that goes into the groundwater & I can take a lot of Nitrate out of the groundwater.
so what’s supposed to happen to the land once the farmer leaves?
Nature takes over as always. Invasive species, an ugly useless wasteland, etc. To prevent that and fight back against nature, they’ll need to manage the land … hmm … farm it?
Their cunning plan is to poke holes in the dykes, let the sea water in, import tons of live tropical tiger prawns, then let Thai prawn farmers come in and run the operation.
(What’s that you say? Tropical tiger prawns won’t do well in the temperate climate of the Netherlands?
Well, I know for a fact that Global warming will take care of that in the next few years for sure & for certain.)
One suggestion has been that the intention is for the Dutch government to use the land to provide houses for all the immigrants arriving in the Netherlands.
housing estates for the refugees that will be slums in short order(and the reffos need to eat strangely enough)
Another Holodomor in the making.
Scene 1: Some while ago, i came on a story of some folks who lived in a far off land and they existed/subsisted on a diet revolving around rice.
Rice was their all and sometimes, crops, harvests and yields were better than other times.
Over the course of generations, they learned that if they’d had an especially good year and there was going to some of the previous harvest left over, they planned well in advance and ‘did something special’
What they did when planting the new season’s crop was to fertilise it with Night Soil.
But the special thing was and, like the French geese producing Fois Gras, would force feed themselves with the spare rice from last year
Yes they would have generated some very Fatty Livers in themselves but the intention and result was to create immense amounts of extra Night Soil.
And that would then pretty well guarantee a bumper crop of rice and everyone was happy.
On first reading that story I said “Yes, that seems sensible” and left it at that.
Everyone *knows* that poo makes things grow better but, like me at the time, did they ever wonder “why”?
Scene 2: Chickens = Chickens that we eat and chickens that make eggs.
Everyone loves eating chicken and doing things with eggs and we’re endlessly told how healthy they are’
Especially that they are “high in protein and low in fat”
Again, one of those things that everybody *knows* and never asks why
Me being me am gonna ask ‘why’
It is because the chickens that we eat and the ones that make eggs are fed on diets revolving almost entirely around grain. Starch basically and grains are not especially high in protein.
(Chickens are able to metaoblise starch into sugar. This muddies the water massively, why don’t they turn that sugar into fat like most other critters do?)
It gets even worse for chickens because they create (like the rice eaters above) lots and lots of poo.
And chicken poo stinks like nothing else on this Earth and the compounds that make that stink are the breakdown products of protein. They are compounds of Sulphur and Nitrogen.
So, where are the chickens getting all that protein from, to make not only themselves and their eggs but also to pump so much out into the farm’s muck midden.
Scene 3: Viagra
Was invented/intended as a medication for treating Hypertension.
It wasn’t an especially good medication for that but had ‘side effects’ which are all to do with ‘blood pressure’
How it did that was via a fairly well understood mechanisim involving Nitrite and other bits of Nitrogen/Oxygen combined.
But Viagra pills don’t contain any significant amount of Nitrogen so ‘what gives’. Where is the Nitrogen that Viagra ‘activates’ coming from?
Scene 4: In the bathroom brushing your teeth.
You may, amy not, use a toothpaste containing an anti-bacterial substance. It’s hard not to.
Or, you may use (generic term) Listerine ## as a mouthwash.
It may be alcohol based as per Listerine or have really potent things like Chlorhexidine or Triclosan in it
And if you do use an anti-bacterial mouthwash, just as fast as Viagra works on your nether region, the mouthwash works to skyrocket your blood pressure.
Why does rinsing your mouth with antibacterial raise blood pressure.
## Listerine was invented as a diinfectant/cleaner for floors and work-tops – in places that needed Clean Floors = classically hospitals and surgeries but public washrooms etc etc etc
How The Fug did it come to be used as a mouthwash? People do the strangest things.
Scene 5: (the last one and just as well, this is going downhill fast)
Your potty or toilet bowl after you’ve done a Number 2 and not flushed it.
Those of an inquisitive and scientific nature may wonder just what is in a Number 2.
What goes on?
Lots of things actually but pertinent here and relating to Scene 1, what you will find in there are bacteria that “Fix Nitrogen”
In our own poo.
At very low levels but, they are always there and always have been = the very same/similar ones that attch to the roots of some plants and ‘fix Nitrogen’
I’ll let you puzzle out the rest of the story and fit those parts together but, do you see where I’m headed?
maybe all the Nitrogen is not coming out of sacks of fertiliser. Maybe hardly any.
Scary innit – how something that is such an intrinsic part of us and the real world, can be so hideously misunderstood, got soooo wrong and have the most destructive fix applied.
just like CO2
edit to PS
And another Epic Wrong = that we are Carnivore = meat/flesh eaters.
If you assembled the above correctly. you’ll understand that we are not. Just like the Big Cats.
Ruminant animals also.
Sorry Rud, all that Cock and Bull story about the biofuel-distillers-waste you feed your cows being = protein for your cows is just that: Cock and Bull
you’ve been had. they don’t need it.
triclosan was a garage floor degreaser they add to the toothpaste as well foul stuff rips enamel to hell and ruins the proper bacteria we NEED in our mouths.
bought some by mistake recently , one use sore mouth and sensitive teeth for a week after just ONE use.
its now relegated to use for shining chrome on the car or sandshoe cleaning etc
This will not end well.
The EU is shaky at best right now.
This will wake people up in the biggest possible way.
This could wind up with bloodshed. “We’ll take your land, and you’ll never farm again.” WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO? Take up wind turbine installation? I can see it starting with the destruction of infrastructure (maybe IEDs taking out cables from solar or turbine arrays), then road blockages, leading to rubber bullets maiming or killing protester(s). Then it hits the fan. I wouldn’t want to be a politician in the Netherlands if I voted for or supported this mess.
EU is run by The son of a Nazi leading figure, Schwab, head of an armament producer of the Reach. Klaus Schwab, the head of WEF. Leyen, the herad of the EU commisaion is a close ally of WEF/Schwab! So, the antifarmer aggression is part of the plan to make us dependent on the patented crops of Bill Gates, and of insects instead of beef.
so, One vote for blatant evil, rather than ignorant/stupid.
What complete ignorance
Oh, didn’t you know any of that ?
Its a made up fantasy , not even at the level of gibberish
So, the Duker vote is that it is not evil, that it is simply stupidity.
So, it is 1 to 1.
Didn’t the Dutch just have an election not long ago where they voted to get rid the green scum politicians pushing this nonsense?
True. But those were provincial elections. The current sitting government still carries on pushing their original agenda, regardless.
As I said. To me it looks like they are trying to get the land of the farmers as cheap as possible. For other purposes. Like housing for immigrants.
Immigrants= asylum seeking refugees
who will all starve because the government eliminated most of the farms
You don’t offer 120% to get land cheap. The purpose is to kill people by starving them to death. There are some Dutch citizens standing up for their farmers, but most are too lazy and selfish and short-sighted to fight for their own lives, when it is safer in the short run to stay home.
They didnt vote that way at all. Its Europe so theres plenty of mini partys . The Dutch BBB got 15% of the vote for the provincial councils, the second tier of government.
Politics is about numbers so I image without another 10% for other rural parties the 75% voted for the status quo
So funny. This is Europe, farming only exists with big state subsidies, they are already on the government payroll
So how do you “know” that, Dooky? Are you an agricultural economist? I doubt you even see a farm in everyday life, much less have ever worked on one.
Common knowledge the EU pays huge subsidies [currently Eu54 bill pa the largest single item in the EU budget) to its farmers every year and uses a high tariff wall to keep prices high. On top of EU money theres additional support from member states
Dont need to be agricultural economist merely to have a few clues
Irrelevant. The point at issue is a criminal government confiscating private property.
They are buying them out.
Do you even read the main story , which is only half true but gives the main details
The government are forcing an unwilling transfer. Eminent domain requires compelling justification.
You’ve got no grounds.
Tell me s.th. about wind and solar “farming”
No wind or solar power without subsidies. 😀
Not this story,
farming only exists with big state subsidies, they are already on the government payroll
So you prefer for people to starve? Where is the food supposed to come from?
So now some of the pigs in the EU are walking on two legs.
Next best would indeed be Nexit.
Paying 100% or even 120% of the farm value is highway robbery. The government should have to pay that PLUS 100 years gross operating revenues from the farm, as well as compensation to all communities and agricultural support industries and farm to table industries (food processors, transporters, etc.) harmed by the shutdown. The price of the farm is only a small part of the economic impact of the farm.
Thats absurd. The farmer gets the income from the payment over 20 or more years The farms are subsidised , part of the reason that they are high density production. More hoofs means more money
Here is how blitheringly stupid is the Netherlands government.
European government, and now the US government since Obama (with a 4 year exceptional interlude), are waging a social war against their own people. All in the name of a fraudulent climate crisis.
Destruction of a people by armed imposition of a fraud is criminality of the first rank.
You are a 4the rate moron.
Emminent domain , they will buy them out for value of land , based on it’s current productive value.
Does eminent domain mean something different in EU? How is getting rid of food stuffs a greater public good?
Insult is the last refuge of the loser.
Eminent domain requires a compelling justification. There is none.
The transfer is at gunpoint. At gunpoint is not a sale. Unwanted value is not sufficient value.
You’ve got no case.
Glad the UK has said adiEU to these Eurocrats.
Permanent shortages of necessities are an excellent way to make populations compliant and submissive. Plans for shortages of energy are well under way. The anti-fertiliser movement is a relatively new weapon in the war to subjugate humanity, but it’s going to be effective, especially when wielded by the unelected rulers of the eU, and a permanent shortage of food will be part of the new reality very soon.
Psychological warfare is starting to make advances on two fronts: we are being manipulated into being uncertain of our own sεxuality by the trans movement, and we (those of us with European ancestry) are being manipulated into being ashamed of our history, which — we are being told — consists of nothing but exploitation and oppression of other ethnicities (and apparently, we’re still doing it). Then there’s carefully nurtured fear of an invisible enemy, which had a really good trial run in the recent pαndemic.
It’s a multi-front war, and we are being forced into defensive positions on every front. If we don’t counterattack, we are going to lose everything. And counterattacking is going to be hard when the enemy is not on some foreign shore, but is among us.
The Europeans just get dumber and dumber. The EU is going to screw around until the average Joe is fed up and takes matters into his own hands. It won’t be pretty and those worthless bureaucrats and administrators will get what they deserve. I hope it hurts.
So what if they are inefficient or subsidized, so what? Why would one want to reduce his or her countries resilience, independence in such a volatile world or for that matter ever. So —Gee let’s out source all the heavy industry, mining and now food production. For what ? virtue signaling.Yes it is suicide unless one’s brain is devoid of any common sense reasoning capacity.
100% in agreement John.
The EU subsidize their farmers which is all wrong according to the Dawk — duker .
But the Dawk is happy with solar and wind subsidies .
Hungry people eventually rebel when they see their rulers eating well and they are thrown the scraps .
It just shows that these politicians are driven by ideology , the vast majority have never grown anything or made any thing useful and they are now stuffing up their countries .
History will judge them and the sooner the better .
.How could so many people come to believe that a trace gas could make any significant difference to the earths weather at 400ppm when water vapour can get as high as 50,000 ppm with the average which is between 2 to 3 percent equals 20,000 to 30,000 ppm .
The world politicians have gone barking mad about methane at less than 2 ppm and CO2 at 400 ppm.
Who said im happy with wind subsidies? Unrelated to farming where the piper who pays the farmers calls the tune
Im Fine with farming based on grazing after all it’s sun water and taking CO2 out of the air.
The dutch have a problem with too much nitrates in water from intensive cow and pig warming which reducing intensity will solve . Simple fact of life. I understand some areas in NZ are doing the same to reduce nitrates in the water.
Geeze you need to know what’s going on in your country that anybody like me can find online
There was a little piece on the ABC wireless this morning about a water treatment plant using algae in settling ponds to take nitrates and phosphates out of treated water as a final stage. They were also using the algae as a basis for fertiliser.
It seemed fairly obvious, but there wasn’t much detail provided.
Something similar may be feasible for shed-based intensive livestock enterprises.
that was Vic water in Werribee and yes its raved as new tech but really using well known old nontech ideas
scraping the algae off farm dams provided great fertiliser ditto smaller lakes same thing reading something about the hysteria over the sargasso seaweed coming to usa shores oh woe oh woe yet it would give 13 million TONS of highgrade soil enriching nutrient at a time farms are battling to get them, theyre just dumping it! and moaning about damage to tourism and loss of some sand from the machinery taking it to be dumped FFS
This was a Sydney Water trial at Picton, SW of Sydney. It may well have been based on the work at Werribee – I missed the start of the segment.
Nitrous Oxide N2O is at ~53 / 1,000,000,000 – parts per billion in the atmosphere causing about ~+0.20°C of the 33°C Greenhouse warming effect but only ~+0.01°C 1/100°C of that can be attributed to Manmade emissions.
So controlling worldwide Manmade Nitrous Oxide Nitrous Oxide can only have a miniscule effect on Global temperature but eliminating Nitrate fertilisers would reduce agricultural productivity by about half inducing worldwide famine.
Perhaps that is the intention.
Nitrates in the water are the problem for dutch not the air.
That’s what nitrogen is shorthand for , you have jumped to assuming it’s what’s in the air
Communists caused mass starvation in the past, in Russia, China, even in early New World colonies, before the term communism was coined.
Today they’re openly planning to do it, without any “Five Year Plan” or “Great Leap Forward” bullshoi.
So the Netherlands’ Fascist government plans to end its only income generating export – what could possibly go wrong? Any Sri Lankans want to answer that one?
The only hope on the horizon is that the Dutch elections might be brought forward to next year and on current form the Farmers Party should win and give two fingers to the EU.
well just when you think people cant get any more insane…they show they can!!
how the hell do they think they have ANY right to control farmers farming in any OTHER nation I wonder?
Russia would probably be quite happy to allow them to settle on free land they were offering a while back, and it would be damn poetic if they did.
every day we cop the food shortages panic eat bugs eat gmo fakefoods etc bullshit, and yet theyd ruin some of the best farmland and talented farmers?
I hope the power goes out the food shortages bite and EU rots!
Vote for city people determined to bite the hands that feed them, and for good measure run any dissenters out of business.
THAT’S the way to build a better world. Right on!
If all of the ‘nitrogen pollution’ from all of the farmers around the world was eliminated the impact on the climate would be zero.
So they want to limit global food production in order to save future humans? If they are successful, what makes them think there will be any future humans to save? This is all complete nuttery. You don’t destroy the present to preserve some unknown and unknowable future.
If you read my Dutch contribution you would understand what I am saying. See my earlier comments. They need land for building more dwellings.
There is an immense waiting list. By hook and by crook they want to get that land and bullying the farmers is the only way they see out. If duker does not see that, he is a crook.
I am doubtful that the buy out of the farmers is coupled to a prohibition of growing food, except maybe if it applies only to farming again in Holland as this would defy the object of creating land for purposes other than farming, like building dwellings and having land for sun- and wind power.
This looks to me like a recreation of the Holodomor, instigated by the communist rulers of the EU. This time, however, the target is the entire world.