Essay by Eric Worrall
Time Magazine picking up on the potential climate policy conflict between King Charles and Britain’s new Prime Minister Liz Truss.
Climate Change Could Strain Relations Between King Charles III and U.K. Prime Minister Liz Truss
BY CIARA NUGENT
SEPTEMBER 12, 2022 4:38 PM EDT
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Many expect Charles, an unusually outspoken royal as Prince, to have a tougher time keeping silent—especially when it comes to the climate. …
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Some activists, however, say there are major holes in the King’s environmental philosophy. He continues to use highly polluting private jets, for example. And in a 2010 speech at Oxford University, he cast population growth in Africa and other developing regions as a “monumental” challenge for the planet—an idea repeated by his son Prince William last year. Given that people living in Africa make a tiny contribution to greenhouse gas emissions compared to residents of countries like the U.K., these kinds of “overpopulation” arguments arguably carry racist undertones.
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If King Charles III is a “climate King,” as some environmental news outlets have optimistically labeled him, Liz Truss is definitely not a “climate Prime Minister.” Commentators say she has shown strikingly little interest in the issue during her 12 years in parliament, despite serving as environment secretary from 2014 to 2016. Truss has promised to “double down” on the U.K.’s existing 2050 net-zero emissions goal. But campaigners have serious doubts about her commitment to the drastic actions needed to reach it. The U.K.’s green party dubbed her a “disaster” for the climate.
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Read more: https://time.com/6212796/king-charles-iii-climate-change-liz-truss/
Obviously it is reassuring to read UK Prime Minister Liz Truss does not regard climate action as a serious priority. Let us hope she acts on her apparent beliefs, and ditches the lunatic net zero policies which are sending household energy bills skyrocketing, and are strangling the life out of the British economy.
Correction (EW): “Strikingly little interest”, not “Surprisingly little interest”.
I hope Charles loses his head over the matter /s
He’ll have to really pull his head in to save it.
But maybe the green republican movement will support him [koff].
Any’ow, good onya Liz!
Note that a crown was coinage except when –
Hopefully the sort of advice he’ll get will be along these lines
“The Queen also toyed with the idea of making the whole of St James’s Park private, and asked her prime minister, Robert Walpole, how much that would cost.
“Only a crown, madam” he replied with a thin smile”
From Bill Bryson “At Home”
He’ll actually have to pull his head out.
Are you hinting that in the USA, our “turtle” might decide to change His ways?
The Greens keep on claiming that Renewables are not only cleaner but that they are cheaper too.
So let’s follow the example by the Australian government in selecting a Island as a test for Renewables.
Put in ” King Island,Tasmania,hydro”.
Then select that from the text.
Up will come a switchboard in Real Time showing Wind, Solar, a battery, a spinning flywheel and as Back Up a Diesal Generator.
The location of this island is in what the sailing ships called the Roarming 40 tees with a steady wind from West to East.
It’s between Tasmania & the mainland State of Victoria
You be the judge as to its efficiency.
The UK has a number of similar size islands to set up such a test of Renewables.
Michael VK5ELL
I just saw the dashboard. It is the middle of the day so sun should be at its peak but supplying only 38 kW. % kW is going to charge the battery. Wind in the roaring 40s is supplying 36 kW and that dirty old diesel is supplying a measly 1.388 Megawatts. It is a lovely place and they produce magnificent cheese and beef but when the diesel stops so do the lights. Renewables are a waste of taxpayers money and a waste of consumers money as well. The wind and solar part of the system is designed to produce 65% of the islands power needs. That would be on a very good day but today it is just managing 5%. Unreliable is the best descriptor.
https://www.hydro.com.au/clean-energy/hybrid-energy-solutions/success-stories/king-island
The Isle of Wight in the UK is a good starting point .
Prince Phillip quipped that when he dies he hopes to be reincarnated as a deadly virus to help depopulate the earth.
The quote is noted in an article by The Guardian newspaper from 2009 where some of Prince Philip’s most controversial quotes are listed. The full quote reads: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/21/quotes-by-prince-philip
That story about Prince Philip is a complete myth. He was asked to write for a charity book posing as an animal and in that context what would he wish for,. I am surprised that nonsense still keeps getting promoted.
As For Charles he has repeatedly said that as King he has no intention of pursing any sort of political activism.
So can I now write off “The Guardian” as just another steaming pile of “Fake News?”
Absolutely. And Im one of the more liberal commenters here. Its essentially unreadable
After Alan Rushbridger was removed as editor in chief, the Guardian adopted the CNN business model. Half there coverage is now linked to the “climate crisis” in some way.
The new King remarked that he is not stupid when answering a question about activism.
“He was asked to write for a charity book posing as an animal and in that context what would he wish for”
So he was likely still expressing own ideas. A parasite wishing to come back as virus seems perfectly logical to me.
He was still wishing for something far worse than the COVID 19 pandemic to strike Earth and eradicate humans. Not a great “debunk”, my friend.
Luckily that dispicable POS no longer with us , unless his wish came true and his spirit is still hanging around as the omega strain.
Funny how the people clamoring for reductions in human population never look in the mirror in search of volunteers for the “cause.”
Excellent!
Much better if he changes his mind. It would give others the reason to do so without losing face.
Nevagonnahappin
Charles — the monarch who lost his head even before he ascended the throne.
I find it disturbing he went with Charles III, as I and II were both disasters with I being executed by parliament for exceeding his privileges
Is it possible III doesn’t know this?
You are being unfair to Charles II. He was quite a successful king in the Restoration after the plebs got rather tired of being ruled by Parliamentary morons addicted to puritanism – a bit like the mob in charge of COVID recently. Charles II liked a bit of fun. His problem was really that he had no legitimate heirs although there were quite a few from the “wrong side of the blanket”. Diana Spencer aka Princes Diana was descended from one of them. Charlie’s stupid younger brother James II tried to restore Catholicism to England which was having none of it and led to the Glorious Revolution where William and Mary of Orange became monarchs. Mary was the younger sister of Charles II and James.
We will see with Charles III. As long as he keeps his nose out of politics and climate change alarmism, he’ll probably be OK. Getting rid of the titles for the useless Sussexes may also win a few brownie points. Persuading Harry to grab the kids and run for England without the Markle may earn even more.
Diana was descended from two different by-blows of Charles II.
IIRC that Mary – Mary II, married to William II, of Orange – was the daughter of James II.
Her sister, Anne, later became Queen, after the deaths of Mary and, later, William.
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If this is true, then Mis Trussed is already an improvement over the lying oaf Johnson. It is fair to say that the bar is set very low, virtually lying on the ground.
Whilst she is undoubtedly an “improvement”, Truss has already made some stupid decisions over “climate”. The first was to keep the Cop26 head Alok Sharma as a cabinet minister. Why? What possible role has he now? What signals is this sending? The second was yesterday when news broke that home EV charging would receive what will amount to a simply enormous government subsidy, in order to keep the EV drive alive. Again, why? This is not only daft but very much against the interests of all other taxpayers who will pay for it in the end. So, can we really trust Truss on climate issues? We already have our answer.
How on Earth do you expect the rich who can afford a new EV and have a garage to charge it in, to manage otherwise, the poor dears?They’ve only got a few thousands in subsidies and ludicrously high feed-in tariffs on their solar panels, paid by consumers too poor to afford such luxuries. They need some more generous subsidies from ordinary taxpayers who are obviously too pathetic to go and buy new EVs and houses with garages, and chuck a few thousand quid at some solar panels.
Come on! We need to transfer even more wealth from the poor to the rich, doncha know?
Well, the plebs have to be kept in place. No personal freedom for the masses.
I assume you doffed your cap when you wrote that, Chaswarnertoo. 😉
It’s….
“Dennis Moore” ~ Monty Python
can someone explain to me the difference between revereing the monarchy and extolling slavery ?
Get out of the past, Garboard.
The monarchy owns slaves? Do you have any evidence for that, or is that just what you’ve been told to believe?
No members of the British Royal Family have ever owned slaves, one person outside of the immediate Royal Family in the 18th century part-owned a company that may have been involved in the slave trade but that is the only tenuous link. Aside from that, the only link is that they and everyone else in the UK profited (to a greater or lesser extent) from taxation of the slave trade. The only direct link I have ever found is one of Princess Diana’s ancestors, a Spencer – who was one of a very small but very rich elite who owned slaves on British soil for a few years before switching to an anti-slavery stance.
What? How many slaves do you believe the Queen owned? Slavery was banned even before Queen Victoria came to the throne over 200 years ago.
What is the difference between giving aid to any African country and extolling slavery?
Slavery was rife in many countries before they became part of the Empire.
India, Africa , even new Zealand .
From early 1800s Britain stamped it out in new colonies
But the Caribbean was a destination of the Atlantic slave Trade before then and British traders were amoung those financing and shipping them to various other nations colonies and also US
Slavery also existed in Japan until the late 1500s
The kingdom of Dahomey was active in the Atlantic slave trade until 1852 when Britain forced the Dahomey Kingdom into ending the slave trade. King Gezo had the following to say in the 1840s:“The slave trade is the ruling principle of my people. It is the source and the glory of their wealth…the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery…”
The Alawite Dynasty was a Kingdom in Morocco with main slave markets in Tangiers, Marrakesh and Fez. The slave trade finally ended in 1950. Morocco enslaved people from sub-saharan Africa, and also from Europe with its Barbary pirates.
Egypt’s slave trade developed in 641 AD with the Muslim Conquest of Egypt by the Rashidun caliphate (many slaves transported to the middle east) and ended in the 1900’s after immense pressure by the British after Egypt defaulted on its debts.
The Kanem Bornu Empire based around Cameroon, Chad and Nigeria raided non-Muslim neighbouring kingdoms for slaves whch was its main trading commodity.
The coastal Kingdom of Allada in Southern Benin was a center of the Atlantic Slave trade. Slaves were captured by raiding and attacking enemy kingdoms. These slaves were then traded on to the European slavers who were bound for America until the kingdom was itself invaded, with many being enslaved.
The Aro Confederacy, Ashanti Empire, Songhai Empire and Mali Empire also enslaved in raids, used, and traded slaves.
Revering the monarchy of many African countries may be a bit like extolling slavery.
Unlike Africa, and the lands subjugated under Islam, Britain, other European countries, and later America decided for themselves to end slavery in their own territories, and certainly in the case of Britain, to pressurize, and forcibly stop other nations trading or holding slaves.
A dozen presidents of the USA actually OWNED slaves – is revering the presidency tantamount to extolling slavery?
Yes. Ulysses S Grant was the last President to have owned a slave ( one given by his father who he freed before the Civil War ) His wife also inherited a couple of slaves
first off , john hawkins started the african american slave trade in the 1500’s . he became the richest man in england as a result . my point tho , was that essentially all the royal subjects of the past were exploited by the monarchy and essentially had very little freedom . the monarchy traditionally was a dictatorship that enriched itself at the expense of the populace .
The African slave trade was started by the Portugese in 1444 before John Hawkins got started – British plantation owners in the Caribbean bought slaves from the Portugese. It wouldn’t be until 1619 that the first African slaves were sold to North American plantation owners in Virginia, again by the Portugese.
If I’m not mistaken, these original Africans were given the status of bonded servants in the colonies and, as per law, were free after 7 years servitude.
steal a little and they put you in jail ; steal a lot and they make you king ——dylan
All governments were originally the biggest mob on the block. That includes whatever form of government you follow.
there’s a difference between elected governments and hereditary governments and dictatorships
This would be the filthy rich Dylan?
he didn’t steal his money and at 80 or so is still on the road performing because he loves it . and creating new music .
do you have a problem with the accumulation of wealth ?
Don’t believe the political rhetoric. Sharma, like any other politician, is given a job and expected to do it even if they disagree with it.
Look at what they do, not what they say.
Sharma’s historic voting record on environmental issues:
“Generally voted against measures to prevent climate change”
Alok Sharma remaining in place as regards COP26 remains accountable for it, both as a target and possible scapegoat all in one. He can be useful in a useless and powerless role.
That statement, in itself, (from whomever) GLARINGLY indicates Stupidity. NO human, or group of same, has, or will have, ANY control or influence on Climate, Change, or No change.
Oh, the climate changes. Always has and always will. No power on earth, let alone us puny humans, can stop the climate from changing.
Baby steps at first? She may want to keep the Cop26 head Alok Sharma as a cabinet minister to avoid a fight with the Greenies and then quietly dump the useless baggage. The same applies to leaving the EV charging subsidies until she is firmly established, or maybe push Parliament to end them, which is the proper way….yeah, not many countries are following the normal rules of creating laws via the legislative body, they are ruling by fiat Executive Orders.
” not many countries are following the normal rules of creating laws via the legislative body, they are ruling by fiat Executive Orders.” True, that.
Australian Senate has a way of disallowing new regulations made by Ministers by a majority voting against them. But with so many Greens they wont be voting down any climate regs
Why keep Sharma in Cabinet? “Keep your friends close. And your enemies closer.”
“Let us hope she acts on her apparent beliefs, and ditches the lunatic net zero policies which are sending household energy bills skyrocketing,…”
Perhaps Liz doesn’t know it yet, but the whole climateering enterprise is finished anyway. The decision re climate is making itself. We had peak renewables in Europe in 2017 and Germany has recently been dismantling their first big wornout onshore wind farm (early) and is showing little interest in replacing it. On top of that, a dozen or more renewable utility companies have gone broke, and private investment has dried up. This is why investment bankers are grubbing at retiree’s pension funds in US and Europe (and meeting resistance).
Meanwhile pushback has been growing against new renewable projects in Europe, and against the doubling and redoubling of electricity and fuel prices caused by the war on fossil fuels and the predictable failure of wifty-poofty national grids across Europe and in California, Texas and looming for New York.
Liz needs do nothing, will do nothing and can do nothing to push towards the impossible Net Zero. She will be fully extended trying to prevent massive loss of life of UK citizens by cold and famine.
Europe? They are in complete denial. There is no hope of preventing the Policy Caused disaster baked in. Germany’s interior minister is dispatching 40 battle tanks each with 40,000 litres of fuel to major population centers for use by the riot police (no shortage of fuel for this use!).
Minister of State for Climate (Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy) is Graham Stuart
Let Sharma play the COP26 musical chairs
Look mate, she’s only a politician with no scientific training, so she is reliant on her advisors, god save us. Unlike Boris she doesn’t sleep with an ultra greenie, so she doesn’t get conditioned with climate crap in her quiet time. Due to the monumental climate stuff ups of her predecessors at least give her some time to catch up with some decent advice and makeup her mind what’s feasible now.
Giving the go ahead with shale fracking in Lancashire, and getting coal fired power stations back on line would be a great start. However, dealing with the cost of living and energy issues is paramount, so reducing the green tape and subsidies for renewables is most important, followed by cutting back on net zero priorities. The UK could follow the lead of the EU, who have reluctantly reined back their immediate climate goals in order to reduce energy poverty and public riots as winter moves in.
I thing Liz is a pragmatist, capable of seeing the big picture and acting on principle, but maybe that’s just my glass half full attitude to life.
Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
An English woman who went back to the Farther land recently told me that her family and friends call the new Prime Minister Mistrussed’
The only way is up, then.
Notably, Starmer and his party made no progress politically other than from Johnson’s buffoonery.
Assuming Truss can at least remain credible she has a good chance of winning the next election as labour are still in a mess.
Let’s hope Mis Trussed doesn’t get a new boyfriend
Or girlfriend, as the case may be.
It is important to specify whether the goal is to get under or over the bar.
That is a little unfair on the buffoon. His main stupidity, shared with some other men, was to be poor at selecting his bedmate!
Bedmates – plural. Which raises an additional stupidity, also shared with some other men, of not being able to keep it in his trousers.
It IS what ‘makes the World go ’round’, up there (and most everywhere else).
Unfortunately she seems to think that all the UK needs to do us become an energy exporter based on all the most expensive schemes going – wind, tidal, hydrogen…
She needs to work out that we need cheap energy. Having an export surplus is nice, but noone will buy if it is costly..
Yes. The French have learned from Russias tactics. Create a shortage of your particular energy export- in their case reliable regular electricity from Nuclear power -and you cream it with the high prices now become a new normal
What counteractions by Herr Schwab? The former Duke of Windsor was one of Schwab´s
key climate hysteria promoters!
The baton will be handed to William.
“”The Duke of Cambridge revealed that he lies awake at night worrying that world leaders and politicians are failing to do enough to stop climate change.
He said: “I get outraged by the inaction.
“That’s probably a bit of a cliché but that is what I get most troubled about.”
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/11/03/william-cant-sleep-because-of-climate-change/
Surely he has better things to worry about, and his dreams could be easily sorted out with a little actual study of proper climate science. But the question then comes up, does he have sufficient intellect? You can guess yourself!
The entire family is bonkers – except perhaps for Anne
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Well, no, he’s a member of the British Royal Family [TM] His only worry is that the brand may lose mass appeal.
At least his bees know they have a new
masterking.I thought it was the queen bee that had some value.
They wont be getting a day off .
Oh dear,
If he’s ‘lying awake’ that surely means that The Duchess is not doing her duty. wink wink
Virtue signalers harshly critique others while believing they themselves are forgiven their believed necessary extravagances.
Hysterical hypocrite accusing others of inaction while they themselves fail to understand economic and historical reality.
What a liar or idiot – maybe both!
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge regularly borrow the Duke of Wesminster’s Jet for private trips and holidays. I am outraged by the ACTION and hypocrisy.
Its all pre written BUMPF from his PR people.
They have learnt that from politicians , always have pre prepared talking points learnt off. If nothing to say, just nod your head in agreement
Once this was the thing to do
Who? The last Duke of Windsor was Edward VIII – no-one has held the title since him.
Windsor is not far from Wales, donchaknow?
It’s a million miles away as far as titles are concerned! If he can’t get that little fact right, what trust do we have that he got anything right?
The former Duke of Windsor abdicated and has been dead some years. Aside from marrying Mrs Simpson he is renowned for his sympathies for a different German ruler.
Mrs. Simpson was really Mr. Simpson, right? The poor man he married first was decent enough to avoid a scandal.
He knows he is subject to the deal now
Keep out of politics and the politicians will keep out of family affairs
Why else was his mother a political enigma?
Parliament is above monarch and people
If Charlie meddles, I am sure there will be dark references to a previous King Charles.
Clean up the Tower, order new drapes and start sharpening the blade…
Never underestimate religious zealots, he has trained his sons to take over the overt preaching, and has already had one of his private opinions (about Rwanda) leaked “accidentally”.
One son, maybe, the other has veered off course and appears to have been lost at sea with all hands!
Lets just hope that Parliment stays above bureaucrats.
Parliament is the supreme legislative body, but it is the people who are above parliament. The MPs forget that at their peril.
Read back over some of my recent posts Eric. Truss is an accountant and hasn’t always been a politician. Sh’e the first PM I have known since before Harold Wilson who is able to count.
I have said though, don’t watch Truss, watch her Cabinet and with Suella Braverman, Kemi Badenoch and Jacob Rees-Mogg in it you can be sure she is a climate sceptic. She’s also appointed Steve Baker, a GWPF trustee, to Northern Ireland.
Have a look at the voting record of almost every member of the Cabinet (I say almost only because I have only looked at about half) and none of them have expressed any meaningful support for environmental/climate initiatives.
It seems we at last have a level headed government.
Some maturity and insight to your posts, these days, HotScot. Nicely argued.
I had forgotten about Steve Baker – but Northern Ireland could be looked upon as a poisoned chalice – and a place to reward people you want to use as a scapegoat. Kemi sounds good to me, though – watch that one!
My own take on this, regrettably, is that the climate lobby is so powerful, and so all-pervasive, that standing up to them directly would be political suicide. A longer term, more subtle approach is needed. Maybe set up another body to counter the power of the Climate Change Committee, but not too openly. A scientific advisory that might include wise and capable (and well respected) sceptics such as Matt Ridley, who I am sure would serve, and who already sits in the House of Lords, whose pronouncements in relation to, say, the nuclear vs wind debate, might be used by a closet-sceptic government as a first step to a more sensible, and less damaging, policy on the issue.
But, as is well understood, it is indeed ‘the economy, stupid!’ and it will be an uphill task to get the pointers moving in the right direction before the next election, so be prepared for even more deficit budgeting over the next two years.
“these days”?
I think the approach will be to gently shuffle NetZero into the long grass over time.
It won’t be condemned or openly confronted but I suspect certain members of the political community will be told to pipe down. I also suspect the BBC and media will be leaned on to reduce the hysteria.
Will we see the BBC breathlessly reporting the activists demonstrating at fracking sites? Will we witness the police arresting these people broadcast gleefully by the BBC or any other networks?
I suspect things might go quiet over these events as they are not really in the public interest.
I suspect that the BBC only aligns with govt policy when it matches the agenda of the BBC, as it did with COVID fear-mongering. Can’t see the BBC (the broadcast wing of the Guardian) ever reducing its cc propaganda.
That depends on how many people in the BBC were taking their orders direct from Moscow.
The ramifications of Russia inevitable defeat and humiliation in the Ukraine will, I suspect, be felt in the most unexpected of places.
And if, as seems possible, the West stands by and lets Russians sort out Russia, then the FSB as well as Putin may end up flushed down the sewers of history.
I think we may see the Left in disarray, abandoning their weapons and fleeing from the occupied territories of the mass media.
Popcorn?
YES!
Politics is the art of the possible. and any politician has to balance out several groups it needs to keep on the right side of.
In the case of ‘Our Liz’ :
All these must be kept broadly on side to win elections.
Climate change and Net Zero is now off the menu along with Carrie Johnson. When we look at the two slightly renewable/alarmist narratives that she is still apparently supporting – electric cars and COP26 – neither are either costly or really effective at more than virtue signalling. They are probably there just to confuse the greens.
Meanwhile the rest of the cabinet are true blue conservatives. Less ideology, more achieving result and balancing the books by stimulating growth, not strangling it.
Jacob Rees Mogg is in charge of energy. I do not think Liz is that interested in fake science. She is interested in keeping the lights on, for her grass roots, at minimal cost, and JRM is, whatever you may think of his Catholicism, huge family and Eton inspired top hat and tails, nobody’s fool. And if he does what he promises, and gets fracking and supports nuclear power, German heat pumps and electric cars may well be de-emphasised.
Also, look at what is happening in Germany, powerhouse and economic driver of the European Union, the spiritual descendant of Hitler’s Third Reich blended with Italian and French communism, It is, thanks to cosying up to the nice Mr Putin for years, and embracing an energy policy that was little more than a green front to Russian energy, cattled ( trucked)*.
In short the politics of morally justified virtue signalling Gazprom and Siemens funded Net Zero, windmills, solar panels, heat pumps and electric cars have lost their sponsors. Germany is going down with Putin. And how much we will discover that the apparent ‘grass roots’ nature of the woke, politically correct, self absorbed, sexually ambiguous, morally pious, green ,vegan, etc etc Liberal Left has in fact been sponsored direct from the FSB, remains to be seen.
Forget what people believe. It only takes precedence when considering manufactured crises. We have had COVID which was largely real, and Putin’s war, which cannot be airbrushed away, and the result is that the Western economy is now undergoing a sea change that is going to impact on people’s daily lives in a way that climate change simply does not.
The political winners will be the ones that adjust to the new realities the fastest. The smart money is on real solutions, not propaganda. In Ukraine we are witnessing what happens when smart missiles meet Russian bullshit and Kremlin propaganda. Smart missiles won. Kremlin lost..All over the place people are turning away from green ideology towards – er – nuclear power. Because it actually works.
Democracy, such as it is, works because in the end the people do have the power. Britain has sacked Cameron, May and Johnson in the space of 5 years, because they all became election losing liabilities. We now have Liz (in whom we Truss). A noted libertarian and now with a libertarian cabinet. Stuck in the middle of a world crisis. Well, it’s sink or swim time.
We will see.
*Cockney rhyming slang. You work it out.
Hmm. Firstly Truss does not appear to be endorsing the ban on ICE vehicles whilst pushing for home EV charging stations; many of which are made in the UK, which may be her way of stimulating some UK growth. Second, Sharma will be a very useful sacrificial lamb or judas goat (take your pick) to focus on whilst she gets on with the job of keeping the lights on. Thirdly, it cannot have escaped her attention that all leaders that butted heads with the MSM and their favourite delusions have ended up out of office, hounded by a baying mob, whipped up by that same MSM. She will be taking a much more circumspect course and, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn, had everything set up ready to go before the MSM got wind of it; softly, softly.
” We have had COVID which was largely real,”…. Covid was a ‘FLU’, therefore “largely real”, but NOT in the way you IMPLY. Totally a Control ‘mechanism’ (if I may use that description), and one by which so many of we Critical Thinkers have seen and felt the absolute Evil of that ‘mechanism’ expose so-called scientists, those in “charge’ of recommendations-for-health (and healthy-decisions by SELF), politicians, and law enforcement (what Law?) caused so much grief and economic damage.
Time will tell re Truss.
Yes, we need to see what she does.
She should secure England’s energy supply as soon as possible. Everything else is secondary.
That advice goes for the other European nations, too.
The illusion of human-caused climate change is the obstacle they need to overcome. CO2 is not a danger. Insane climate change policies are a danger. They are the reason Europe is in the shape it is in now.
The politicians need to wake up to this fact, if they are to save their nations from serious damage. Damage caused by them! Stop the Stupidity! and save yourselves.
She has to sort out the energy cost issue and kick start the economy. If she manages this then re-election beckons. The climate can will be easily kicked down the road, wait for the end of new ice vehicles to be moved from 2030 to 20 maybe.
She doesn’t need to kickstart the economy. She just needs to get the government chocks out of the way and the economy will take off on its own.
Chances are that is exactly what such ideology as she possesses will indicate that she does.
She seems at heart to be someone with a genuine social conscience, who has arrived at libertarianism and a free market as the best way to do ‘the most good for the most people’.
As is required by us of all politicians. In the USA, we actually had (not without some bad ‘input’) a non-politician in charge for a time, during which he Actually fulfilled his campaign promises… certainly all that he had some actual power to accomplish. When in our History have we actually been blessed with such a one?
Didn’t Charlie lead the way by converting his sports car to run on waste cheese and wine? It doesn’t seem to have caught on yet though.
Only Charles produced enough waste cheese and wine to make it possible.
It would be far cheaper for him to convert his car to run on his BS.
Have you and decnine been ‘conferencing’? Seems like identical theories.
Cheese whey and bad wine from late pressings – the waste products of his businesses. You didn’t really think Charles was ACTUALLY putting cheese and wine into his car did you? Oh my, that’s hilarious!
Is it wasting cheese or wasting wine that hasn’t caught on? Food waste is supposed to environmental devastation, but I’ve always refused to waste either anyways.
I believe that he will be ill advised if he actively promotes the idea of man-made global warming. With many experts predicting severe cooling to occur within the next decade or so he views may not look good. (sarc/on)By the way he is not a climate scientist
I think Charlie has at last had to put his student politics aside. And grow up and become a nations King. I dont think he will jeopardise the Crown and his family’s future by getting involved in politics. He can leave all that to Ginge and Minge. Now so universally loathed in the UK that it is doubtful they will ever be welcome here again.
I have seen and read interviews with Charles when he was PoW where he says he knows that he cannot interfere with government or make political statements. Whether or not he sees commenting on the environment as political or not we’ll see in the near future.
But a lot of what he has said isn’t that mad. Looking after the environment in which you live should be common sense. But we still have raw sewage going into rivers and the sea, nearly 35 years after Thatcher promised that privatisation would clean it up. Planning thousands of hectares of non-native confifers across moorland was folly, and probably still is. But he’s like 99% of UK politicians who think that Monbiot, Attenborough, Porrit, Lucas, Packham and the rest know what they’re talking about.
Nobody has a problem with environmental Environmentalism that looks to protect the physical environment from actual physical destruction/pollution. It’s the nonsense belief that a trace gas that is essential to all life on earth is a pollutant that people have a problem with. Or that the human contribution to the presence of that trace gas acts a temperature control knob to the global climate. Or that mathematical models that have been comically wrong for the past 50 years, can’t even predict what will happen in the next year, don’t even bother trying to model atmospheric water vapor or solar radiation, can be trusted to predict what the climate will be like in 30 (2050) or 80 years (2100).
Succinct! Thanks.
Right! Even if the models were correct and we got even +5°C by 2100 – why is that bad? Even if they had to put dikes around NY and LA wouldn’t that be cheaper than impoverishing the whole world?
Don’t tease me. I doubt Mary O’Leary will be another Iron Lady. But it does give one hope.
No iron lady, but a tough hard working competent manager. Part of the New Reality is that Glorious Leaders are out, competent pragmatists are in.
Re “these kinds of “overpopulation” arguments arguably carry racist undertones.” Not necessarily racist, but certainly obnoxiously eugenicist objectives, just like Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, a lifelong eugenics activist.
Notable member of The Club of Rome.
But hasn’t Charles stated emphatically that he will not continue opining on climate change now he is the king??
In public
This is the Black Spider…
Not sure about that. In private discussions with politicians he could be accused of political bias if he expresses his madcap opinions.
The government isn’t obliged to take any advice from him and a biased position could cause a damaging rift between the Monarchy and Parliament.
Charles has also emphatically stated that we only have 100 months to save the world from climate change … about 150 months ago (March 2009)
And that we only have 18 months to save the human race … about 26 months ago (July 2019)
Charles emphatic statements aren’t worth the wind it takes to push them out of his lungs and past his lips.
Good one! 🙂
Charles was told what to say then, and he will be told what to say now, just by a different set of advisors and lobbiests.
Not really, he just indicated that he would probably have to step back a bit from some of his pet ideas – how much and which if any of those are to be seen.
Liz Truss is a pragmatist. She knows fossil fuels will continue to be needed for a long time and will do everything possible to increase capacity but she also recognises the need to keep the environmentalists as quiet as possible. If that means showing support for net-zero she’ll do it, but in a very watered down version compared to Boris.
She can pay lip service to NetZero but she only has two years to get control over this situation before the next election. If she hasn’t produced results for the consumer and small businesses she’s liable to be out on her ear.
Her objective is 2.5% growth, she can’t do that shackled by NetZero, no one in Europe has been able to do it. If she outperforms Europe over the next two years she also justifies the nations faith in Brexit.
There are many strings to this bow.
Too early to tell, in my opinion. Never judge a book by its cover (though sometimes that can be helpful!) or a politician by their words!
Been there, done it, got the scars.
In my experience, the colorful dust jacket is a better predictor of what is in the book than the actual bland cover.
Not pragmatism, opportunism.
She has switched position on most issues, often more than once.
It is true that she has no green convictions. But it’s also true she has no other convictions either.
She will do whatever the opinion polls suggest. And they will be skewed by the BBC and SkyNews constantly proselytising the Green faith.
Look not to Truss for leadership/.
Expect increased loony Left activity in October.
They are planning mass disruption events targeting government and the public.
The Queens death made them cancel a “Festival of Resistance” in London, which was a silver lining.
When the fracking starts should be very interesting…
Many arrest’s at fracking sites. There is no alternative and she can justify locking the green loony’s up by constantly referring to punishing gas prices.
That will be her Thatcher/Scargil moment. If she prevails and her other policies bear fruit she’ll win the next election convincingly.
The public want to see decisive action, not more Cameron, May and Boris prevarication and appeasement.
She doesn’t have time to f@rt about. The Conservatives red wall is crumbling and Boris wasted all those seats he won. Fracking also appeals to the ‘Levelling Up’ manifesto promise Boris made, but did nothing about, by bringing high quality jobs to the north.
Watch for her declaring that as a major case for fracking.
They will protest. The old bill are likely to bring them a cup of tea
It’s true. Shout out one Republican comment in public and the Police will have you in handcuffs and be marching you away before you can blink, shout out one Greenie activist rant and they’ll be nice as pie.
The United States used natural gas to lower our CO2 emissions by replacing coal-fired power plants with natural gas-fired power plants, and did so without harming the economy or driving up prices. Until Biden came along, anyway.
Liz can use the U.S. example for promoting England’s production of new natural gas. She can call it a “transition”.
The problem is the term ‘transition’ can only be interpreted as the wait until nuclear power stations are built which turns the greens rabid.
There is no easy or short way out this. The country needs an energy plan for the next 50 years which can’t include renewables because they are useful for nothing. They can’t provide baseload and they can’t respond to demand. The only fuels capable of doing both with minimal emissions are nuclear and gas combined.
I’m afraid the loony greens are onto a hiding, particularly if there are power cuts this winter.
Yup. The sea change will be from Greens claiming to be saving the planet for our children, to Liz & Co saving the nation for our children.
Build nuclear, add a bit of gas, and disconnect intermittent unreliable wind and solar, but keep those battery phase stability thingys. They could further enhance the efficiency of proper dispatchable power generation. Just like if any battery technology ever solved the intermittents storage problem, it would be better applied to smoothing demand (with nuclear generators) than smoothing generation of intermittents.
The miners unions did that. They simply exceeeded the tolerance of the ordinary person, and that is what gave Thatcher the legitimacy to stamp on their balls.
Suella Braverman knows the Law. If she doesnt apply it, its an election losing ploy
Fortunately King Charles 3rd has no power at all, he is only a figurehead without any political power. The previous King Charles’s didn’t do too well when they messed with politics! Perhaps “headless chicken” would be a good epithet.
He does have some constitutional power. Even though it is mostly viewed as ceremonial and hasn’t really been exercised vigorously for generations, it exists. He could make himself a nuisance if he chooses to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_the_United_Kingdom#Constitutional_role
He will (or his advisors will) be aware that any inappropriate use of that constitutional power will fuel calls for the end of the monarchy. At that stage, parliament would be of a mind to put an end to the nuisance – not as drastically as with the first King Charles, and a referendum would be likely.
Well, very little power but rather more influence, alas.
He has no direct political power, but Charles II did wonders by sponsoring science, and Victoria did the same by sponsoring UK industry and technology.
Doing similar things to Bill Gates and Elon Musk etc
“HotScot” noted that Liz Truss has some accountancy training.
Maybe she simply remembered that “2 x 0 = 0”.
She doesn’t have “some accountancy training”:
Don’t be an idiot all your life.
king chuck is classic climate warrior : never worked a day in his life , no practical knowledge of anything , probably never so much as changed a light bulb , rich from inherited money , profligate life style of private jets , huge houses and catered meals . ok chuck , tell us all how we should live .
I was kind of hoping for King Ralph.
Wait until Archie grows up!
Aside, of course, from his 5 years service in the armed forces, pilot training in both fixed wing (he was still flying planes up to a few years ago) and helicopters, parachute traing, officer positions aboard aircraft carriers, cruiser and frigates then a 9 month command of his own ship. Did I forget to mention setting up the Princes Trust out of his naval pay and running his businesses in the Duchy of Cornwall? He’s very practical and quite accomplished – just a shame he’s such a tit about climate change.
Charles’ great mentor was Laurens van der Post; South African Afrikaner writer, farmer, soldier, political adviser to British prime ministers, close friend of Prince Charles, godfather of Prince William, educator, journalist, humanitarian, philosopher, explorer and conservationist.
In the early 1950s, van der Post raped a child, what we now call doing a Savile. He then went on to great things
They are a rum lot
Did you ever see the video of the naked young man climbing out a top floor window of Buckingham palace on knotted bed sheets?
Taken by a passer-by before he fell.
Whilst I have been known to shimmy up a drainpipe in my very early youth to clamber in a window of my parents house when I forgot my key, I never felt compelled to knot my bed sheets together to escape the house.
A “child” or a post-pubescent minor?
Neither; it was an adult in an old (2015) promo clip for a fictional tv show. Fake news unfortunately.
The UK, EU, and other all industrialized countries, and especially developing countries, must abandon the disconfirmed CAGW hoax, and rapidly expand their use of cheap, clean and abundant fossil fuels and nuclear power if they expect to have functioning economies and prosperous citizens enjoying fulfilling lives.
CAGW is a horrifying Leftist secular religion which if very anti-human and Malthusian whose purpose is more directed at the eradication of humans than it is on the reduction of anthropogenic CO2.
I seriously doubt King Charles will give up on his silly religious crusade in proselytizing for his inane CAGW religious cult..
The cold and dark of this coming winter will quell many romantic notions on climate change and the Ukraine, and perhaps Leftism more generally
Those that are shouting loudest from the ‘tower’ will not experience “The cold and dark”…
Go Liz!
King learn from Liz don’t let the people freeze.
A bit of breaking news:
Live: EU stings renewable energy suppliers with €140bn windfall tax – live updates
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/09/14/ftse-100-markets-live-news-energy-russia-pound-inflation/
Very strange that Big Pharma never gets hit with a windfall tax for its enormous bonanza!
The Kremlin and its renewable lobby, is not dead yet, but the smell is unmistakeable.
Chance of Truss dealing with the non-problem: Net Zero. She is just another WEF shill; better than Fishy Rishi, but there the positives stop.
I have checked. There is no mention of Liz Truss associated with the WEF. I have a spreadsheet compiled by Robert Malone (available to download on his website) on every WEF member he can find and Truss isn’t on it.
Malone… a true treasure!
Given that there is strikingly little climate change, this is not surprising.
I can imagine a scenario where Truss fixes a couple of things, gets blamed for the consequences already baked in, and the Greens then ratchet down – enabled by the positive steps she took.
Royals are constitutionally prohibited from meddling in policy matters. King Charles has stated again and again that as king he has a different role to play than policy advocate.
The democratically elected parliament and their appointed governments of the UK make policy, period, end of story.