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British MET Climate Change Clergy Face Unprecedented Social Media Uprising

Essay by Eric Worrall

The British people have finally had enough, after attempts by the MET to link the heatwave to climate change triggered an unprecedented social media backlash.

Weather forecasters faced accusations of LYING and scaremongering during this month’s extreme heatwave as leading meteorologists condemn unprecedented levels of trolling in hundreds of abusive tweets and emails

  • The Met Office’s lead meteorologist asked for ‘a bit of respect’  for his colleagues
  • It comes after reports linking the heatwave to climate change riled up viewers
  • Climate change made the unprecedented temperatures ‘ten times more likely’  
  • Online abusers even accused TV meteorologists of lying and being blackmailed


PUBLISHED: 22:20 AEST, 29 July 2022 | UPDATED: 01:18 AEST, 30 July 2022

Weather forecasters have been the target of ‘unprecedented levels of trolling’ this month, as keyboard warriors took to social media to accuse TV meteorologists of spreading hysteria during the heatwave. 

The BBC‘s weather team said they were inundated with comments on social media telling them to ‘get a grip’, while others questioned the accuracy of their reports as the nation sweltered in heat that got as high as 40C.

Social media trolls seemed whipped up by reports linking the heatwave with secular trends caused by climate change, according to the Royal Meteorological Society who said their forecasters were also targeted along with forecasters from the Met Office. 

According to the Met Office, climate change made the heatwave ten times more likely – although it is not possible to conclude causation definitively. 

BBC meteorologist Matt Taylor said he had found the amount of online abuse levelled at him this month ‘depressing’.

He said: ‘Ít’s a more abusive tone than I’ve ever received. 

‘I switched off a bit from it all as it became too depressing to read some of the responses.’

The Royal Meteorological Society also weighed in on the pushback received by their members during the heatwave.

The society’s chief executive Professor Liz Bentley said members had faced ‘public ridicule, accusations of lying or suggestions of being blackmailed’.

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WUWT does not condone physical threats or violence. But I understand the anger. Britain faces a horror winter of spiralling price rises and shortages, in my opinion largely a consequence of a long term MET office and BBC climate scare campaign which undermined mainstream political support for reliable energy.

My question, what are the people hurling abuse and threats expecting to achieve?

Before I read Climategate I thought alarmists were all scientific frauds, but after I read Climategate I realised there is a range of motivations. Many if not all of them actually believe. Even when they hide declines or try to have open minded science journal editors fired, or manipulate data from New Zealand which strongly suggests the MWP was global, they think they are being the good guys. So there is no point threatening or hurling abuse. People who believe they are the good guys put up with abuse, because they believe their mission to help others is more important than their personal comfort.

So how do we fix the unaffordable green energy mess the MET and BBC have helped create?

The best course in my opinion is to find and vote for politicians whose priority is fixing today’s problems, rather than politicians whose obsession is what the weather will be like after we are all dead. Even if this means voting for minority party candidates.

Please don’t fall for the political canvasser canard that a minority candidate vote in Britain’s first past the post system is a wasted vote. Politicians watch minority votes like hawks, minority candidate support is their weather vane for what their voters really want.

So long as mainstream political canvassers can cajole you into voting mainstream, they don’t care if you have a few gripes. But a large breakout in favour of climate skeptic candidates would be a real shock to the political system.

Just look at Brexit. Nigel Farage‘s UKIP never achieved sizeable representation in Westminster Parliament. But they came close to a breakthrough. The threat of a voter support breakthrough was enough to persuade then Prime Minister David Cameron to hold the Brexit referendum, which Cameron thought would put the issue to bed. Cameron misjudged and lost.

If nobody had voted for UKIP, even though they knew their candidate was unlikely to win, in my opinion there would have been no Brexit referendum.

The same political formula could work for fixing Britain’s broken, overpriced energy system. If enough British people vote for politicians whose focus is today’s problems, even if those candidates don’t win, politicians will be panicked into responding. It will no longer matter what MET and BBC climate scaremongers believe or say, if they lose their position of influence.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C.S. Lewis.

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Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2022 2:08 am

People pointing out MET office errors and posting graphs and data is trolling, according to the MET. In their world, anybody questioning the green religion is an apostate.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2022 5:44 am

Anything critical is trolling, they claim.

Religious fanatics don’t like their religion questioned.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 12:38 pm

They’ve been creating an unholy stink about Climate for all that long and eventually, Ma Nature presents them with a reasonably formed turd
1 day of hot weather and another day fairly warm.
So off they go like a little child who finally learns how to use a proper toilet..
Mummy mummy mummy, look what I just did- aren’t I clever Mummy. Mummy, tell me I’m clever.

It went wrong didn’t it, Mummy said it was a really crap little turd.
The kiddie misunderstood.

Yet all they do and have done for over 30 years now, is criticise criticise criticise.
They’ve relentlessly criticised lifestyles, consumption, food choices, cars, holidays, going out, staying in, whether your house has insulation, what sort of fuel it uses, keeping warm, keeping cool etc etc
Everything is wrong in these people’s books.
Then when they are criticised, they become that small child, ever so proud of its turd but nobody cares, they’ve waited too long.

Just switch the whole caboodle off.
Just. Say. No.

As the T-shirts used to say…..
What if they gave a war and nobody came?

John McCabe
July 30, 2022 2:11 am

Show me a candidate who’s not spouting off about CAGW and I’ll vote for them (probably).

Reply to  John McCabe
July 30, 2022 3:22 am

Steve Baker MP (Trustee of the GWPF), Suella Braverman MP (Attorney General) and Kemi Badenoch MP.

All have spoken out against NetZero.

Don’t watch who the next PM is, watch the Cabinet choices. Baker, Braverman and Badenoch may well be included and if they are you know which direction the wind is blowing.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  HotScot
July 30, 2022 5:48 am

Speaking out against NetZero is a little bit ambiguous to me. What exactly does this entail? Are they against installing more windmills and solar? Do they believe CAGW is real?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 6:12 am

Absolutely. If the basis of speaking out against net zero is simply the intended timetable, then they aren’t really much different from the net zero zealots.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  DaveS
July 30, 2022 11:22 am

We have to start by persuading people that there is a need to keep what little coal capacity remains; to ensure that we have sufficient CCGT capacity to keep the lights on without having to beg for interconnector supplies; to promote oil and gas production at home and abroad as the only way to really solve the supply crisis. Even Mark Carney was persuaded to admit that keeping running coal now is not in conflict with net zero by 2050. We have to explain that renewables do not form a workable basis for ever larger amounts of supply, and that storage is too expensive and impractical to solve the problem.

These things can be demonstrated in a way that is not subject to the kind of equivocation in climate models.

Reply to  It doesn't add up...
July 30, 2022 2:51 pm

I fear you can explain until the cows come home and your explanations will fall on deaf ears because CAGW is not a science but a religion and belief and feelings rule the debate, not facts and science. CO2 to them is the same as Demon Rum was to the Prohibitionists who got the 18th Amendment to the US Constitution passed way back in 1919 for which the Mafia is still thanking them to this day. That insanity persisted until 1933 when it was repealed by the 21st Amendment.
CAGW already has lasted far longer than Prohibition.

“As a scientific theory, man made climate change due to atmospheric carbon dioxide levels has as many loopholes as a rodeo, and is about as accurate as astrology. It has succeeded in the marketplace of ideas only because it makes such a compelling story, a new age replacement for Christianity that puts Mother Nature on the cross instead of Jesus. Can you imagine Albert Einstein branding anyone who does not believe in his theories “traitors,” “heretics,” and “deniers”? If we don’t do what the priests of climate change say, we will all burn in the hell of global warming. A hysterical witch hunt against carbon dioxide, which all living things are made of, will harm humanity rather than save it. Green scams are now an enormous trillion dollar business worldwide, thriving on an idea that is contradicted by the provable facts.”

CAGW science is, perhaps, even less accurate than Astrology as Astrology has a 50/50 chance of being right while CAGW is never correct.

Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 5:04 am

Your comment rings so true – every sentence.
I’ve been aware of the lies, based on zero evidence, since 2005. You sum them up brilliantly. Thank you.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 5:12 am

The point is to halt the bad designs for our energy systems. They can come to their senses (or go to their graves having failed to do so) over climate projections later.

Richard Page
Reply to  HotScot
July 30, 2022 7:42 am

There may be an issue there. Don’t know whether you’ve seen it but the 1922 commitee have received a 15,000 strong petition from Tory members calling for a change in the rules on party leadership elections. I believe the High Court may be looking at it to see if it has legal standing during the current leadership election but it could be extremely interesting. If it’s allowed to go ahead, it’ll suspend the leadership election and members will vote in a referendum to see if they want to put Boris Johnson back on the ballot, which may (possibly) have a knock-on effect for all the candidates – if BoJo is back in the running, all candidates may have to be reinstated. If that’s then the case, the membership, not the MP’s, will have full control of the election and choose from the full list of candidates, including BoJo. Good game, good game!

Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2022 2:53 pm

OK, that does it!

I now accept I will never understand the parliamentary system of governments. I think I’m just going to stop trying to figure it out.

Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 9:14 am

It’s not really the parliamentary system, it’s the party system. Every party has rules governing the election of leaders and it see-saws between the party membership and the MP’s as to who gets control of the voting system. Some years ago the Tory membership had total control of which MP became leader, then the system was changed to allow MP’s to decide a shortlist that the membership would vote on. Now the members want to change the rules back to the way they were and the High Court has to decide if it’s legal to do that right in the middle of a leadership contest. If it’s any consolation, I had to read around until I understood what’s going on (still not sure 100% but there ya go!). Politics does get weird at times.

Reply to  John McCabe
July 30, 2022 5:13 pm

This is a reply to Eric Worrall.
I agree with you 100% that we should be encouraging the forming of political parties that tell the truth about global warming and put the wellfare of there fellow country men (and woman ) ahead of stuffing up their countries in the vain hope of stopping the climate from changing .
As you said they may not get enough votes to form a government but a lot of votes for a climate realism party will be taken notice of .
Mankind can not control the climate but they have modified it a little with the UHI effect .
There are scientists that are predicting doom if we don’t cut back on energy use .
BUT we also have scientists that tell the truth that there is no climate crisis .
There never will be a climate crisis .

Reply to  Graham
July 31, 2022 12:18 am

There is an emerging climate crisis, global cooling is imminent and the Europeans are unprepared.

La Nina conditions in the Pacific and a very negative North Atlantic Oscillation should do the trick.

Reply to  ironicman
July 31, 2022 4:26 pm

That’s called weather

Reply to  John McCabe
August 1, 2022 10:43 pm
Andrew Wilkins
July 30, 2022 2:13 am

‘Anecdotally, abusive comments increase when the message about climate change is intrinsic to the story’, she said.

The Met Office’s lead meteorologist Alex Deakin urged trolls to ‘show a bit of respect’ for his beleaguered colleagues.

He told the BBC: ‘I find it more frustrating and offensive for my colleagues – some of the great minds in climate science….

“great minds in climate science” ROFLMAO!!!
They’ve noticed the increase in “abusive” comments when they shoe-horn in climate change. Shouldn’t that be a sign to them that people are fed up with the CAGW rubbish?

Ken Irwin
July 30, 2022 2:15 am

As you said – “they believe”

That is dogma not science.

Reply to  Ken Irwin
July 30, 2022 2:45 am

It’s worse than that, it’s a cult. Think Jonestown but on a global scale. How you get people out of the climate cult I have no idea, but putting the facts that we don’t have a climate crisis only seems to trigger them to make more and more crazy claims that the planet is going to burn in the next 8 years. How does this end?

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Simonsays
July 30, 2022 3:33 am

The Jonestown cult ending was group suicide by poison. That’s the same ending the CAGW cult is headed for – mass death using starvation and cold instead of poisoning.

Reply to  Tim Gorman
July 30, 2022 12:36 pm

But not aimed at the true believers so much.

Reply to  Tim Gorman
July 30, 2022 2:58 pm

Tim, there is a difference between the Jonestown cult’s end and the end the CAGW cult envision. That mass suicide only affected the True Believers. What the CAGW cult demands is the death of most of humanity to include the non-believers. Contrary to Jonestown, they envision their survival while rooting for the rest of us to die!

Reply to  Simonsays
July 30, 2022 4:06 am


Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simonsays
July 30, 2022 5:57 am

“only seems to trigger them to make more and more crazy claims that the planet is going to burn in the next 8 years. How does this end?”

In about eight years, I would say. One way or another. 🙂

I think eight years from now will be pretty much like today and like eight years ago and like 80 years ago.

Eight years from now the alarmists will be seeing a lot more “trolling” as their dire predictions turn out to amount to nothing unusual. Just like this latest heatwave they hyped turned out to be a two-day not much. No wonder people are laughing and pointing at the Met Office.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 9:47 am

You mean the same met office that predicted BBQ summers that were washouts and managed to get predictions of summer weather 100% wrong 4 years out of 4.

If that happened for 2 yrs in my business the guys who were responsible would be out the door within 48hrs, never to find employment again.

WTFexception do the Met office claim to have for constant failure?
Tax payer’s money??
Reward for failure?

Reply to  pigs_in_space
July 30, 2022 12:38 pm

reward for keeping up pretenses..

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 6:26 pm

I think it’s hilarious. They been bakin’ this cake for far too many years & it’s way overdone, all their doomday forecasts have bit the dust & now that people ain’t buyin’ their bullshit & are makin’ fun of them they’re cryin’ the blues & asking everyone to back off & give them some slack, Why ?…. so that they can continue on with more global warming tripe, so that they can beat us over the head with an ugly stick & so they can tell us what to do,how to do it,when to do it while they themselves never do anything they preach… eff that !
I for one hope to see more of the calling out of the liars & the would be ‘experts’ who are liars also. Way past time to start telling the truth & I’m sure that once they start doing exactly that the people will back off without them acting like a bunch of whining babies.

Reply to  Simonsays
July 31, 2022 4:29 pm

We may find out this winter in Germany. Old people and children freezing to death in large enough numbers might cause at least a pause in the ruinous rush to unreliable energy sources.

Reply to  Ken Irwin
July 30, 2022 11:49 am

The Dogma will get hit by a Karma.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 6:06 am

That will be a good way to sort out who is for climate action (self-destructive stupidty) and who is against self-destructive stupidity (climate action).

Smart people will vote for those against climate action because there is no climate crisis and the climate doesn’t need fixing by bungling uninformed/misinformed/conniving bureaucrats who will only make things much worse for the people because of their distorted view of reality. Don’t vote for fools like this. Don’t put them in charge of your life. They can’t handle the job because they are delusional and are wandering around in a false reality.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 12:51 pm

A major part of the population never hears anything except ‘climate crisis’ and do not have the time, energy, or reason to question that might lead them to other information. It doesn’t matter how ‘smart’ they are, they can only act on what they know, regardless of whether or not what they know is true or correct. That’s how propaganda works so well.

Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 7:36 am

“We’ve got one election left to save the planet,” he said.

I wonder how many elections we’ve had since someone first claimed we only have 10 years to save the planet

Reply to  Redge
July 30, 2022 12:53 pm

There was a UN announcement to that effect around 1988.

Reply to  AndyHce
July 30, 2022 3:25 pm

Yes, there was and here it is.

Richard Page
Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 7:45 am

It will be a bumpy ride. It’s extremely tough for an emerging party to break into the current system. Look for many of them to lose their deposits.

Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 10:30 am
It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 11:41 am

The more ways the pro green agenda vote splits the better. What it would do is force the hand of those with common sense to show their flag elsewhere, and give the public a real choice. it could be a fantastic catalyst for that. We already saw what could happen with TBP knocking the established parties for six (out of the ballpark for our American friends). At one point polling implied they could win a landslide of over 400 seats, crushing the other parties into rumps.

Meanwhile, I have been thinking about the arguments about how to win elections in the modern world. The conventional idea is that elections are won by grabbing marginal voters in the “centre” of politics. But that is no longer true when you have large numbers who are choosing to abstain because they feel completely unrepresented by this so-called centre. We saw it in France, where the vote for Macron was very low, and the subsequent vote for the Assemblée kicked his alliance out with a split to either side. The trick becomes representing those who have become excluded – but without lurching to extremism. It’s a balancing act that le Pen didn’t pull off, and is more difficult if you start from an extremist reputation. It is, if you like, why Trump won.

Reply to  Robin
July 30, 2022 3:16 pm

““We’ve got one election left to save the planet,” he said.”
At least that’s a bit creative and different way of saying 8 years, 10 years, 9 months, 2050 etc. left to save the planet. I’ll give them an A for creativity but an F for reality.

This quote may be even better.
“…Rather than allowing the left a monopoly on such policies, Gemmell says these are smart, pro-business ideas that will give the UK economy a competitive advantage as the whole world increasingly turns its attention to decarbonising and the energy transition. He says the policies are not nearly as radical as the Tory government would have voters believe, claiming one-third of British councils are already committed to carbon zero by 2030.”

The whole world? Yeah, except for the biggest emitter on the entire planet, China, of not only CO2 but real pollutants about whom the CAGW crowd say nary a word. They don’t DARE!
I do enjoy them saying this, however. Now, when they kill business, the economy and people with their loony ideas, the people will know which conservatives to go after with tar and feather along with the ones on the Left!

Sorry, I think tar and feathers are an American invention for dealing with crooked politicians, isn’t it? You Brits have other historical methods to use as needed, I’m sure, if you’re not familiar with that one.

Reply to  KcTaz
July 30, 2022 6:38 pm

drawing and quatering,beheading & of course the noose, come to mind

Reply to  paul
July 30, 2022 9:24 pm

Those should work quite nicely as, I presume, they have in the past.

July 30, 2022 2:35 am

Best we sceptics don’t go the way of X rebellion etc.
Don’t alienate potential support. Keep it rational and be polite.

Reply to  Alan
July 30, 2022 3:24 pm

Yea that work real well, if works so well why does the left not use it?

Reply to  Alan
July 30, 2022 9:29 pm

I suspect that when Brits (and the rest of us) are either freezing or sweltering in their homes and starving, if the WEF/NWO folks have their way, skeptics may well abandon rationality and politeness and I do not blame them one bit. In fact, if what these psychopathic, powerful leaders have their way, it will come to that and, when it does, the rational acts will be the X rebellion way but on a far larger scale.

July 30, 2022 2:35 am

The BBC can’t even be truthful about this

Abuse? They haven’t produced any evidence of abuse…

Reply to  fretslider
July 30, 2022 2:44 am

Indeed, their definition of abuse seems to be any comment challenging their laughable saturation climate propaganda obsession with a bit of frustration and sarcasm.

Reply to  MrGrimNasty
July 30, 2022 10:04 am

Leftists have always defined anything they disagree with as hate speech.

Reply to  fretslider
July 30, 2022 2:48 am

Disagreeing or proving their claims to be BS is “abuse” in their eyes.

Reply to  rah
July 30, 2022 12:04 pm

Facts are racist, don’t you know?

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
July 30, 2022 7:47 am

Contradicting their holy mission is currently abuse – I don’t intend to wait for it to become sacrilege or heresy!

Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2022 3:47 pm

I do believe you’re too late for that, Richard. We’re already there. I’m just waiting for the burning of witches at the stake. So far, it’s been (mostly) rhetorical sgainst “Deniers” but that could soon change.

The Heatwave Green Hysteria is Out of Control

JULY 18, 2022

…As the German historian Wolfgang Behringer has documented, in the 14th and 15th centuries ‘unnatural climatic phenomena’ were often blamed on ‘a great conspiracy of witches’. During the Little Ice Age in particular, when crops failed in many parts of Europe, there was a frenzy of witch-hunting. Some in society ‘held the witches directly responsible for the high frequency of climatic anomalies’.
Sound familiar? I definitely hear echoes of that old, regressive belief that sinister people are responsible for weird weather in today’s attempt to pin heatwaves on the rich or on coal-mining or on motorists. Environmentalism has rehabilitated in pseudo-scientific form the age-old instinct to find the witch or the sinner who is to blame for society’s misfortunes.
Everyone needs to calm down. We’re safer from weather than we have ever been. It’s sunny. Go outside. Sit in the shade. Have an ice-cream.

“…This brings to mind the Salem Witch trials of 1692, presided over by Harvard-educated judges, the best and the brightest Massachusetts had to offer. When the monstrous hangings of innocent people finally stopped, it was not because the elite admitted there was no such thing as witches. Who would need Harvard-educated ministers if witches did not exist? The trials were stopped for a technicality: the use of “spectral evidence.” If an accuser with good political connections dreamed that the alleged witch consorted with the Devil, that was enough to hang her.
I suspect that the more perceptive of the Massachusetts elite realized that the continued use of made-up evidence could soon get out of hand and they themselves could be victims. French revolutionaries guillotined each other a century later. Some of Stalin’s main targets in the great terror of 1937 were his old Bolshevik comrades in arms, who received death sentences based on the equivalent of spectral evidence: wild, fabricated charges of collaboration with the Nazis, etc.

“It saddens me to see that the party of my youth, the Democrats, have embraced global warming as fervently as Massachusetts Puritans embraced the belief in witches.”
Dr. William Happer

William Happer

July 30, 2022 2:36 am

Their plus 30degree Celsius days lasted for all of three days (17 to 19 July), does that qualify as a Heat Wave?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 30, 2022 5:14 am

Whalebone corsets seem to exacerbate discomfort in hot weather, too.

Reply to  H.R.
July 30, 2022 3:54 pm

Yes, that’s why Southern Bells were noted for their frequent fainting and fainting couches were invented. Between the heavy clothes and the corsets, fainting spells were the expected and inevitable result. I am so glad I didn’t live in those times.

Reply to  bill bates
July 31, 2022 9:25 am

To answer your question, NO. 5 or more days, so they are lying every time they mention “heat wave” in speaking of their being trolled. In other words, trolling about being trolled.

Dave K
Reply to  bill bates
August 1, 2022 6:50 am

Yes, from the Heatwave Plan describing the Heat Crisis Emergency turned up to 11, in my area (SW) the definition has become a day over 30°, followed by a night of 15° and the following day over 30°.

Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 2:38 am

the fires were a result of DEW from space directed energy weapon, quite deliberate . The trees were all unaffected. directed energy weapons were used in America to cause the same problem, trees untouched. The houses were targeted vertically. This is all to promote the need for NWO. Dont be fooled by these globalist rabble.

M Courtney
Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 4:31 am

What a strange thing to say.
Why didn’t they aim at a major centre of population? Take out Manhattan and have a real impact?
It’s not only irrational, it’s implausible.

Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 5:43 am

Well, I am unlucky enough to have a near relative who thinks that the Americans are training beam weapons on her to reduce her brainpower. If you send me your phone number, I’ll let her know so that you can get together and start a new cult.

Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 7:41 am

Have you stopped taking your medication, Terri?

Richard Page
Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 7:53 am

Hmph. Actually it may well have been untended barbecues. Brits have an odd tendency on warm, rain-free days to go into the garden, light a fire and burn sausages, kebabs, chicken etc. with the possible intention of contracting food poisoning from undercooked meat! Some of the fire officers from areas affected by the wildfires over the warm few days have severely criticised people for their barbecues and requested that they manage them properly.

Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2022 3:59 pm

Maybe the Brits need to study Arizona. We normally have couple of months where outdoor charcoal barbecuing and all fires are prohibits due to dry conditions. After we moved here, I got my husband a gas-fired barbecue or, otherwise, he’d never be able to cook outside for most of the summer!

Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 9:21 am

Honestly we rarely get more than a couple of days each year where it’s nice and warm with no rain – a barbecue ban law might be a bit of a waste!

Gunga Din
Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 8:47 am

Do they accept target request?
Where do I send my list? 😎

John Hultquist
Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 30, 2022 1:15 pm

I had to look this up. Seems like a 1950s science fiction short story.
It is not April 1st, is it?

Reply to  Terri Jackson
July 31, 2022 3:44 am

Lies it was all me in my attempt to invade the UK … like an episode of Pinky and the Brain I was so close just wait until next week 🙂

Reply to  Terri Jackson
August 1, 2022 11:32 am

Looks like Dr. Evil has found this blog.

July 30, 2022 2:46 am

I really don’t think that it is going to be much different here in the states.
I mean check this out:

New Mexico And Las Vegas Declare Emergency, With Less Than 50 Days Of Clean Water Supply Left, While Casinos Get Flooded –

And this:

Reply to  rah
July 30, 2022 7:06 am

One of the videos circulating is of flood water running thru the LINQ parking garage. Many years ago I was in that same parking garage (it was the Imperial Palace Casino parking garage then) and saw it flooded in exactly the same way so this is nothing new for Las Vegas.

Laralee Nelson
Reply to  RicDre
July 30, 2022 8:27 am

My understanding is they designed the Imperial Palace parking lot to allow flood waters through because these floods happen every few years.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Laralee Nelson
July 30, 2022 10:48 am

We have many catchment basins spread out in the Las Vegas “valley.” Some days they are overwhelmed. Nature is a bitch.

Reply to  Laralee Nelson
July 30, 2022 3:28 pm

That is exactly the way I remember the design of that parking garage.

Richard M
Reply to  RicDre
July 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Yes, very typical for Vegas. Seen it myself. The current flood was caused by a massive rainfall of .34″.

Reply to  Richard M
July 31, 2022 9:42 am

That is official at the Airport.

Several areas got over 1 inch in a very short time. My back yard in the east central area of the valley, where some of the highest rain totals were recorded, had standing water over the entire yard. By the morning it was gone, sunk into the dry ground.

Then the next afternoon, the same thing. Standing water in the evening, wet but no standing by the morning.

I wish I had planted the clover/grass mixed yard area I am planning, but I didn’t because by the time I was ready we were already having triple digit (F) temperatures.

The area is small, about 500 sq. ft., and will help provide respite from the heat in the afternoon/evening when BBQing, etc.

Reply to  RicDre
July 30, 2022 4:04 pm

We may have been there at the same time! I forget which casino’s parking spot we were in but we got caught in a flood. It was awhile back but it wasn’t the only time. Flash floods are usual, customary and normal in the Southwest. So is complaining about it not raining and complaining about flash floods when it does rain. It’s human nature, apparently.

Reply to  rah
July 30, 2022 9:13 am

The linked article is confusing Las Vegas NM with Las Vegas NV, combining reporting of a flood in Nevada that effected Las Vagas, with a fire in New Mexico that effected the water supply to Las Vegas NM. These are unrelated events in areas hundreds of miles apart.

Reply to  MattSt
July 30, 2022 3:08 pm

I don’t think they confused them. They mention them both, clearly differentiated by using the LV NM mayor by name, and later mentioning the flooding in LV NV. LV NV has stopped lawn watering, and the local flooding didn’t really help relieve the water shortage. Lake Mead is drying up, and LV NV relies on that for a major part of its water supply.

Reply to  MattSt
July 30, 2022 11:16 pm

But vast areas of NM are getting pummeled with rains and have been for days. So how are they short of drinking water? As Tony has pointed out the head waters of the Rio Grande are inundated. Some places setting now records.

Reply to  rah
July 31, 2022 9:34 am

First link mentions energy shortage “if not enough water flows through the dam.

Hoover dam generated electricity is used primarily for load balancing, as all hydro is very god for that, and also primarily goes to California.

SO I personally wouldn’t mind the dam not generating power for LA. Let them eat cake.

July 30, 2022 2:56 am

You only have to read the examples of ‘abusive’ tweets which the BBC have published to see that they are nothing of the kind. All the tweets I’ve read simply contain reasonable criticism which they are now weaponising by defining it as ‘abusive’. The Daily Mail quoted a ‘Met office source’ who allegedly told them that thousands are going to die prior to the heatwave of a few days ago. I e mailed the Met and asked them to confirm this quote and requested the identity of the person who provided it. I have yet to receive a reply. I have no doubt I will have been labelled an abusive stalker for having the temerity of holding them to account.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Arne
July 30, 2022 3:43 am

It was John Hammond, see my post below.

Richard Page
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 31, 2022 9:22 am

Thought he was off digging up amber? I’ll get me coat!

Reply to  Arne
July 30, 2022 5:31 am

Arne, you should have asked for a list of the names of the thousands who died in the heat wave so the UK could have a proper National Day of Mourning and memorial service. The names could be read to remember the dead, much as the US does for those who died in the attack on the Twin Towers.

What’s that they say? There is no list of thousands who died in the ‘heat wave’? Thousands actually did not die in the heat wave?

Well, then…

I know WUWT doesn’t condone violence, but perhaps some nuns with rulers could stop by the Met and vigorously rap their knuckles.

Reply to  Arne
July 30, 2022 7:47 am

13 people died in the 22 UK “heatwave”

700 people died in the 76 UK heatwave

Reply to  Redge
July 30, 2022 10:06 am

How many are going to die because they won’t be able to keep warm during the imminent cold winter?

Reply to  Oldseadog
July 30, 2022 10:23 am

Many, many, many more

July 30, 2022 3:01 am

looking at the DM , anytime climate crud gets a run the realists are now waaaay more than the truebelievers by about 50 or more to 1, it was’nt always like that . quite cheering actually
same thing in advertiser in aus climate scare items do NOT get a huge support anymore though the odds are less here

July 30, 2022 3:01 am

Just look at Brexit. Nigel Farage‘s UKIP never achieved sizeable representation in Westminster Parliament. But they came close to a breakthrough.”

True – but where is a candidate with the sort of charisma and dedication to a single topic that Nigel had?

Voting for any independent Tom, Dick or Harry is not likely to gain anything – I know, I have been voting that way for years. Only UKIP managed the trick, and it collapsed as soon as Farage left.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 30, 2022 6:12 am

It’s getting late.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 30, 2022 11:00 am

In my years of lobbying for various energy issues at the Federal and State levels, I assure you that most legislators are extremely tacky. The successful ones master the two essential arts of politics: 1) Schmoozing donors; and 2) memorizing slogans. It helps when incumbents can use taxpayer dollars to propagandize and visit with constituents.

Reply to  Dave Fair
July 30, 2022 1:05 pm

If they don’t have a ready reply that will support their position without causing much noise in public, they pretend that you ask something else, totally unrelated, spout a reply that is meaningless to the topic, and hurry on to something else.

Reply to  JBW
July 30, 2022 4:08 pm

I’ve always wondered why Nigel didn’t run for Parliament or Prime Minister. Any idea why he did not?

Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 9:32 am

He did stand in parliamentary elections for the Conservatives for several years, never elected but then was elected as MEP in the EU parliament for some years. After forming the UKIP party, he did stand in the elections but, again, wasn’t elected. He could only run for Prime Minister if he was an MP and in the party with a majority in the House of Commons; there’s no seperate election for Prime minister in the UK.

Richard Page
Reply to  Richard Page
July 31, 2022 4:12 pm

Erm that last bit should have been – there’s no seperate election for the Prime Minister that everyone can vote in. The current lunacy is restricted to Conservative MP’s and party members only, so we know who to blame for the next privileged muppet!

Ian Johnson
July 30, 2022 3:06 am

What a bunch of cry babies. They’re supposed to be adults.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ian Johnson
July 30, 2022 6:17 am

It’s all emotion when they are talking human-caused climate change.

They don’t like their beliefs being questioned.

I guess it’s probably a good bet they don’t read WUWT. That would not be good for their mental health, since there is a lot of criticism and questioning of their climate change belief system here, so they probably avoid it.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 11:04 am

Churchgoers avoid honky-tonks, except when out of town. You can’t imagine the number of practicing Mormons I bought drinks for.

July 30, 2022 3:16 am

See, chi’drens, you can only lie for so long before people tell you to f*ck off. Next step? Making them f*ck off.

Dave Fair
Reply to  2hotel9
July 30, 2022 11:05 am

Abraham Lincoln said it all.

July 30, 2022 3:22 am

Of all tyrannies, the Parliamentary dictatorship is the oldest of them all

July 30, 2022 3:28 am

I don’t think the public expressing “Get a grip” is either threatening or abusive.

It is also natural and healthy to be angry and to express that anger in the face of institutional bias we are paying for. We expect and demand that the BBC is impartial. Showing post box red maps is not rational, its hysterical.

We can write to the BBC and the MET until we are blue in the face, they ignore us all. That frustration has boiled over and, quite rightly, both got a hard time from the public.

The alternative is that the public take to the streets, just like XR do, what would the BBC and the MET office rather we do.

Reply to  HotScot
July 30, 2022 1:07 pm

But then that alternative would face riot troops.

Richard Page
Reply to  AndyHce
July 31, 2022 9:37 am

Not in the UK. It was suggested once, in the Thatcher years; the MOD went rather pale, shuffled nervously and said that the idea should never be brought up – they had zero confidence that British troops would obey orders to deploy within the UK.

Dave K
Reply to  Richard Page
August 1, 2022 7:30 am

The politicised police would and have done it. In riot gear.

Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 3:32 am

It was pretty obvious from the first signs of a spell of warm weather approaching that it was going to be a propaganda exercise. Out were the normal green GB maps with symbols what to expect in the regions, (sun, cloud, rain etc) in were the angry red maps and “red” warnings. By Sunday evening they were saying temperatures “may reach 40ºC”. Monday morning they ramped up pretty much hourly, 41, 42 and eventually 43 by midday. Certainly by that point they had a better idea of what temperatures actually would be, but they chose to pile on the alarmist narrative. As the warmest part of the day came and went, the actual figures started to roll in and most were below 40, a few that surpassed 40 but were from known UHI contaminated sites (but not acknowledged as such) and at least 2 of the 43 reports that I saw not from official recording sites so unverifiable. Yes, it was unusually warm for the UK, but these were mostly spikes, not sustained temperatures. Few, if any, died directly from the heat as had been warned: (clip from 40 seconds in, strangely hard to find on UK news sites after the event)

The Met office deserve to be called out for the alarmist claptrap they were spewing out. This year the UK is enjoying an actual summer, and whilst that may be rare it’s certainly not unprecedented. I can recall warm spells when I was growing up, but modern instrumentation is much more sophisticated and misses nothing, back then they were analogue instruments and not monitored constantly so possibly missed the spikes that they catch now. I don’t have any actual records, but I can confirm that there were days when it was hot enough to melt asphalt in the 1960’s in the UK. If I had known back then that it would ever be an issue I would’ve kept meticulous records.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 3:51 am

D’oh! Sorry, got my dates mixed up, replace Sunday with Monday and Monday with Tuesday.

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 6:24 am

Bob Ward also got in on the act, with a letter in the Telegraph talking up heat-related deaths.

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 7:51 am

13 people died in the 22 UK “heatwave”
700 people died in the 76 UK heatwave

(sorry for the repeat)

Dave Fair
Reply to  Redge
July 30, 2022 11:11 am

But people were dumber back then than we are now. Just think of how much smarter we are now than those dolts living in the 1800s.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Redge
July 30, 2022 11:54 am

Mainly in swimming accidents, I believe.

Reply to  It doesn't add up...
July 30, 2022 4:19 pm

I just saw a video about that. Drownings primarily affected women and female servants for the wealthy as they had to go to a creek to wash clothes.
We really should, once in awhile, stop and count our blessings for living in modern times with washing machines and indoor plumbing, not to mention, electricity.

Not sure if it was in these but pretty sure it was one on this channel.

The Crude Practice of Medicine in Tudor England | Hidden Killers | Timeline via @YouTube

Why Did Edwardian Appliances Cause So Many Deaths In The Home? | Hidden … via @YouTube

In the second one, it details the hazards of life experienced when moving into the modern age of electricity and the beginnings of modern appliances. Many were killed by both!

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 11:53 am

Max/min thermometers didn’t require constant monitoring. I used to take the readings at our school weather station on a rota. One of the jobs was to note the max/min readings, and then use a magnet to draw the pins down to touch the mercury. These thermometers have been around since 1780.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  It doesn't add up...
July 30, 2022 2:23 pm

Response times? Would they catch a spike of a few seconds duration caused by a 747 landing, or turbulence from a truck blowing over a black asphalt road a few yards away as there is at Heathrow? Because the latest instruments do.

Dave Gee
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 31, 2022 4:20 am

Apropos loads of deaths

When I was a lad we used to get New Scientist magazine delivered to the school library every week and everyone in the sixth form could have a reduced price subscription if we wanted. I loved the magazine for its information about the scientific world and its differentiation between observable facts and people saying “I reckon”.

Now, I’d be ashamed to be seen with one. It seems to be unable to distinguish between computer generated models and observable reality – see this link for an example that makes me actually feel depressed with the state of the world.

The headline is “40°C heatwave may have killed 1000 people ……

The figures are actually the result of an estimation derived from an extrapolation from a model which calculated the risk from heat two and three years ago. 

So, yet again, basically, no connection with anything that can be counted or measured.

A PhD student from Reading University, Chloe Brimicombe, said “It looks in line with expectations”.   So that adds sufficient authentication to make it publishable.

I suppose I could email her and ask whose expectations it was in line with but sometimes I just feel like my life is ebbing away, being eaten by people who think science is about politics rather than reality.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Dave Gee
July 31, 2022 5:40 am

Yet earlier this year the UK Office of National Statistics (ONS) published a report ‘Climate-related mortality and hospital admissions, England and Wales:2001 to 2020’ which said

“We found little increase in deaths caused by warmer weather and a reduction in deaths caused by cold weather leading to a net decrease in deaths”

They did however find there was an increase in people being admitted to hospital especially with injuries – the latter I guess involving activities like jumping into rivers from bridges or into very cold reservoirs. Unfortunately during the recent so called heatwave 3 teenagers died in this way.

M Courtney
Reply to  Dave Gee
August 1, 2022 5:06 am

The decline in New Scientist is remarkable. It’s no longer a popular science magazine. The change is very similar to what happened to the History Channel on TV. Populist unreal tripe drove out the good. A sort of Media Gresham’s Law.

There has been a gap in the market for years for an actual popular science magazine. It’s not been filled. Presumably the internet has made all magazines redundant. This online competition may explain what has happened to New Scientist (and maybe the History Channel too).

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  M Courtney
August 1, 2022 9:11 pm

RIP Scientific American also…used to be worth reading.

Paul Buckingham
July 30, 2022 4:15 am

When an ideology has become so dangerous that it literally kills people, as this climatard garbage does, then it shouldn’t be any remote surprise that normal thinking people want to hurl abuse at perennial liars, nor should it be condemned.

When these fools want to cause so much damage, then every word at anyone’s disposal is fair game to describe these moron cultists.

Richard M
Reply to  Paul Buckingham
July 30, 2022 2:39 pm

EXACTLY. I don’t care one wit about their motivations. Their bad science is/will result in pain and suffering for thousands of people. Probably many more. I see no problem at all showing one’s disdain for their moronicity.

For example, just found out Brandon is having a covid relapse. I personally hope it does to him exactly what his policies have done to millions of people. Then karma can move on to the next idiot.

Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 5:07 am

From the article: “According to the Met Office, climate change made the heatwave ten times more likely – although it is not possible to conclude causation definitively.”

You can say that again!

The facts are, nothing about human-caused climate change is definitive. Nothing. It’s assumptions and unsubstantiated assertions all the way down.

This Met Office claim about a couple of hot days in England is just more of the same.

These people consider themselves scientists! They can’t distinguish fact from assertion.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 11:13 am

Then how the hell can they say its 10 times more likely if one cannot prove causation? UN IPCC CliSciFi models?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 12:08 pm

Of course they can’t. Given that they believe the conjecture that CO2 causes AGW, how can they distinguish facts?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 12:17 pm

Since a heat wave is defined as being a certain temperature above the average temperature for that time of year.
Since global warming, to the extent that it can actually be measured is impacting the average temperature.
Therefore it is impossible for global warming to make heat waves more or less likely.

Henry Keswick
July 30, 2022 5:09 am

It’s a scandal that the BBC (and the Met Office) refuses point blank to allow any debate on climate science. What sort of science is that?
When you don’t any allow questioning of your position that suggests the ‘settled science’ is not as robust as you make out. As for the trolling the examples released to the press were better described as ‘criticism’ as opposed to ‘abuse’.

Reply to  Henry Keswick
July 30, 2022 10:10 am

By Government decree the BBC is forbidden to allow anything that contradicts the Government line on CAGW. I suspect that this also applies to the Met Office.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  Oldseadog
July 30, 2022 11:55 am

The Met Office actively agitates for a CAGW position. It wants the government to go further.

Gerry, England
July 30, 2022 5:10 am

Living in Tory-shire where anything with a blue rosette will get voted in, I noticed that in 2010 despite getting increased Tory majorities – with a lower number of votes – the party that was pulling in large amounts of extra votes was UKIP with growth of around 5%. This scared Call Me Dave into his promise to hold an EU Referendum at the 2015 election where he was hoping that the Liberal government would continue and he could hide behind Calamity Clegg to deny a referendum – again. Sadly for Dave, the Tories won the 2015 election and he was forced to hold the referendum.

So I think that is some truth in what Mr Worrall says but I don’t see any party that can really be the threat at the moment. To be successful a solid plan for just 2 areas is required – energy supply and immigration.

Trying to Play Nice
July 30, 2022 5:14 am

The article doesn’t say anything about threats. I think the swelled heads at the MET just cannot take anyone questioning their intelligence and superiority.

Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 5:35 am

From the article: “Before I read Climategate I thought alarmists were all scientific frauds, but after I read Climategate I realised there is a range of motivations. Many if not all of them actually believe. Even when they hide declines or try to have open minded science journal editors fired, or manipulate data from New Zealand which strongly suggests the MWP was global, they think they are being the good guys. So there is no point threatening or hurling abuse. People who believe they are the good guys put up with abuse, because they believe their mission to help others is more important than their personal comfort.”

I think that is an excellent observation.

It’s hard to figure the motiviations of individual people. I would give most the benefit of the doubt and assume they are sadly misinformed about CO2 and the climate, but not all.

Some are conniving data manipulators. And the data manipulators have done the most damage, as the bastardized temperature “record” is the only thing alarmists have to back up their outrageous claims about CO2. It’s the only thing they can point to. A computer-generated re-doing of the historical written temperature record which completely distorts the temperature profile of the Earth, since written records have been kept.

I don’t think the Data Manipulators are True Believers. I think they are dishonest people with an agenda.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 5:50 am

Failing to publicly ridicule people who want us dead is failing.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  roaddog
July 30, 2022 10:35 am


Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 11:19 am

Actually, Tom, data manipulators are not the biggest culprits. It is the UN IPCC CliSciFi climate models that supply the principle leg of their “multiple lines of evidence.”

M Courtney
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 1, 2022 5:12 am

Think about why climate scientists are climate scientists.
It’s because thy chose to study the climate.

If they are able to do computer modelling (successfully) they could earn far more doing financial modelling. If they wanted to save the world they could have worked on disaster relief or medicine (virus modelling?)

But they chose the climate to study as that is what they already thought was most important.

Asking climate scientists about the climate is like asking Catholic Priests about the existence of God. You will get a consistent answer from people who have studied the subject. But it isn’t actually proof that the Pope is infallible.
Nor the MET Office either.

July 30, 2022 5:39 am

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now list the politicians that we should vote for on this basis!

Quite so: you can’t find more than a tiny handful.

Richard Page
Reply to  IanE
July 30, 2022 8:01 am

The majority are the ones that will just pay lip service to whatever new crisis has hit the public consciousness whilst doing as little as possible and being paid for it. Where do you think these ‘climate scientists’ got their ideas of suckling at the public teat from anyway?

July 30, 2022 5:51 am

…Bentley said members had faced ‘public ridicule, accusations of lying or suggestions of being blackmailed’.

Nah, just doing what they’re paid to do. HINT: no journalist (or any other entertainer) ever ‘worked for the public.’

The question is always “Who’s paying?”

July 30, 2022 5:52 am

The BBC weather forecast is provided by Meteogroup and not the meteorological office.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  JohnC
July 30, 2022 7:31 am

That is true, but in the run up to the so-called heatwave both the BBC’s weather presenters and especially their newscasters/reporters continually used words like “according to the Met Office”

Richard Page
Reply to  Dave Andrews
July 30, 2022 10:38 am

The Met Office was once a highly respected, professionally run organisation of meteorologists. These days it’s a joke – computer gamers running models with no understanding of meteorology just a woke belief in a cult.

Matt G
Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2022 4:43 pm

Hubert Lamb would be turning in his grave if he knew what the Met Office was like now. Being the founder of the Climatic Research Unit in 1972 in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia his professionalism is missed.

Steve Case
July 30, 2022 5:57 am

WUWT does not condone physical threats or violence.

I didn’t see any threats or reports of violence in the quoted article or link.

Richard Page
Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2022 10:40 am

It’s implied in the picture reference. Don’t forget that, following the ‘gunpowder plot’, Guy Fawkes and his co-conspirators were hung, drawn and quartered.

Steve Case
Reply to  Richard Page
July 30, 2022 12:02 pm

Thanks, I didn’t give the headline image a thought.

July 30, 2022 5:59 am

The bureaucracy spent 20 years lying about climate change. They spent the last 2 years destroying peoples lives by lying about COVID. Now in a combination of lies about climate change & the corrupt government of the Ukraine they are destroying peoples lives, driving up the cosy of essentials, and telling them to accept freezing this winter. The bureaucracy worked hard for the contempt they are receiving now. They deserve no sympathy.

Reply to  tgasloli
July 30, 2022 7:24 am

This ^

Remember safe and effective 😉

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Derg
July 30, 2022 8:43 am

You mean like the cure for “one of the most profitable products ever”.. ?

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 30, 2022 9:02 am


Steve Case
Reply to  tgasloli
July 30, 2022 8:16 am

The bureaucracy spent 20 years lying about climate change.

Twenty years? It’s been forty by my count.

Warming Warning 1981 YouTube Search.

Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2022 9:39 pm

Before that, they were warning that the Ice Age Cometh, also, caused by fossil fuels and CO2.

son of mulder
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 1:42 pm

Not CO2 they said it was SO2 from Fossil Fuels causing reduced insolation. Then when SO2 was removed by the clean air acts and temperature went up they blamed CO2.

Bruce Cobb
July 30, 2022 6:22 am

No. The time for politeness is long past. This is war. And forget trying to second-guess their motives, or where they happen to be on the Belief scale. They are the enemy.

Rud Istvan
July 30, 2022 6:32 am

Proof that ridicule works. Alarmists feelings got hurt. Good.

July 30, 2022 6:42 am

I must respectfully, and partially, disagree.

“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.” There are very few true sociopaths in the world; I can agree that the majority of these people have good intentions.

But if they ignore the “Road Closed” signs that we have been putting up, one must have traffic barriers with blinking lights to hopefully cause them to stop. It’s not yet time for the concrete Jersey walls for them to crash into.

The signs are the facts that disprove their beliefs. Social media backlash is the blinking lights. One can hope that those lights cause them to reconsider their course, and stop before they hit the hempen ropes that are the concrete.

Captain climate
July 30, 2022 6:49 am

These activists pretending to be scientists needs to be shamed, confronted, refuted.

July 30, 2022 6:55 am

People today are in many respects no different than they were in the days of Galileo. Just as gullible and equally uneducated. Propaganda ranks #1 in population control and is so evident.

Reply to  Jim
July 30, 2022 9:54 pm

That is not true. The people of Galileo’s day were far different than today. The Church did not object to Galileo’s theory because of religion but because Galileo did not have the scientific proof for his theory. The Galileo controversy is one of the most misunderstood historical events in Mankind’s entire history.

This series of blog posts is the best treatment of the Galileo affair that I’ve ever read. It covers the entire process of how heliocentric cosmology came into being. I encourage everyone to read it. It is an example of how science should be done. It is not being done in this way today. We have gone backwards, not forwards.

This, too, is good.
Galileo’s vain ambition

July 30, 2022 7:17 am

What they are doing is evil, not for the good of the people but for personal gain. And they should be rewarded for it by the silence of good manners.

The fact they are disturbed by unfavorable comments shows they wish to do their destructive work with impunity.

Richard Page
Reply to  Olen
July 30, 2022 8:08 am

The BBC’s logo should incorporate the 3 wise monkeys in it!

son of mulder
July 30, 2022 7:27 am

Have they explained what the mechanism is? I’ve heard them say it was caused by climate change but not by anthropogenic CO2.I’d understood that CO2 slows cooling but how does it raise Tmax? I can understand hot air being blown to the UK from Africa/Sahara but how is that anything to do with CO2? I can understand that the removal of SO2 from the atmosphere (Clean air acts) could increase insolation but what’s that got to do with CO2?

Richard Page
Reply to  son of mulder
July 30, 2022 8:07 am

Nothing whatsoever to do with CO2. The Met Office and BBC, as usual, are peddling an unoriginal idea without the slightest idea of whether it’s true, how it works, how much it costs or anything about it. They are the very definition of blind clueless followers.

July 30, 2022 7:31 am

unprecedented levels of trolling in hundreds of abusive tweets and emails

Unprecedented because no one had twatter accounts or email in the past

The Met Office’s lead meteorologist asked for ‘a bit of respect’ for his colleagues

Respect is earned, it’s not a right

accuse TV meteorologists of spreading hysteria during the heatwave

TV weathermen and women did spread hysteria

It wasn’t a heatwave, it was a couple of days of warm weather

According to the Met Office, climate change made the heatwave ten times more likely – although it is not possible to conclude causation definitively.

So, no evidence then. I guess that’s why they had to spread hysteria to keep the narrative going.

The society’s chief executive Professor Liz Bentley said members had faced ‘public ridicule, accusations of lying or suggestions of being blackmailed’.

Awww, poor lambs.

Maybe if they did their jobs properly instead of screaming the end is nigh all the time, they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

Reply to  Redge
July 30, 2022 8:22 am

Those Two days in England were Scotland’s summer where for the most part it has been cloudy, rainy and often aggravated by cold, nagging, near gale force winds.
I have no recollection of any Scottish airport temperatures being published as examples of UK wide records.

The Dark Lord
July 30, 2022 7:38 am

They “the alarmists” want you cold and dead … return the favor

Gary Pearse
July 30, 2022 8:34 am

I think you are wrong on this Anthony. The ‘consensus’ has marginalized sceptics very successfully and scientific arguments from us are now easily dismissed because people, certainly outside the US, believe we are dangerous D*Myers and right wing knuckle daggers.

I myself a have been advocating here for shaming of the consensus individuals There is a policy- created human disaster looming not just for Europe/UK but the world because of deliberate damage by totalitarians to the fossil fuel industry – regulatory, financing, restricting access to resources, banning pipelines etc. Fertilizers are even made by gas forming and this reactant is now more than 10x the price.

Politicians are always easy prey. They always go with the (faux) ‘science’. I say go after these misery purveyors running the ‘science’ wholesale. They are not innocent. When their forecasts failed they quickly began moving the goalposts (from 1950 to 1850 and now 1750). They shoehorned data to fit the failed GHG crisis warming theory. You know they even relied on UHI and bad siting to harvest warming and moved or shutdown stations that were not showing warming. This is not the behavior of innocent scientists!!

I now name and shame individuals like Richard Betts wh prevailed on a departing Prime Minister May to put up another Billion £ of beleaguered taxpayers cash for ‘climate’ on her way out of office. He is a contributor to the misery.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 30, 2022 7:13 pm


July 30, 2022 8:35 am

It’s finally dawning on the common man that the heavy lifting on CO2 elimination is going to be done by him, and that it will result in a significant reduction in his standard of living, and all for nothing. Why wouldn’t he be mad – he should be outraged. Green activists are liers – they’ve been telling the gullible that the transition would be easy, painless. Just blame the oil companies for producing the product they say, when it’s their consumption that’s the issue. Dawn is coming and it’s not going to be pretty.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Terry
July 30, 2022 11:28 am

Like some of the women I woke up next to in the light of dawn.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Dave Fair
July 30, 2022 1:24 pm

Coyote ugly ?
Asking for a friend .

Dave Fair
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
July 30, 2022 2:29 pm

Only because you asked and against my better judgement, Bob: Coyote Ugly refers to a girl you have spent the night with and, upon waking up, you get your first good look at her in the light. She is so ugly that you want to sneak out without having to talk with her. But she is asleep on your arm! To avoid waking her up you chew off that arm like a coyote caught in a trap.

Now, Double Coyote Ugly is when you chew off your other arm to remind yourself never to do that again. I’m told it works but I never went that far even after a number of adventures with Coyote Ugly girls, always at closing time. That one time in Spokane, WA is particularly memorable.

Peter Qualey
July 30, 2022 9:41 am

UKIP was a political movement – a few ‘trolls’ do not a movement make
Eric, get Farage on board and you might have a goer

July 30, 2022 9:56 am

If you want respect, you have to give respect.
Lying to your audience is not respectful.

July 30, 2022 10:40 am

The Weather Men (and women) have “jumped the shark” with their All In On The Climate Crisis thing — blaming a Clmate Change Crisis for perfectly normal weather, It is SUMMER and summer, in the norther hemisphere in many place is HOT. Repeatedly referring to summer weather as a Heat Wave cause by Climate Change has been just too much – in the USA as well.

It is just plain SILLY.

So what is the Hot Summer days as a degree or two hotter than last year — they werre just as hot five years ago, then years ago, 50 years ago.

Every winter snowstorm now must be named to make it seem unusual, out of the ordinary and somehow more dangerous than all the other snow storms of the past.

It look to me like the sensible Englishmen/women have just had enough.

July 30, 2022 12:01 pm

It might be coincidence but this backlash does correlate with market clearing of energy prices after some bit of shielding and lag time. That shielding is much like third world countries and thugocracies that temper uprisings with nonmarket fuel prices as long as they can. Prior to that it was just political arm waving and theatrics. Now it’s real.

July 30, 2022 12:33 pm

When politicians who oppose bandwagon policies start to become popular, the major parties unite in turning against them as though they were rabid dogs who must be shot dead before they infect anyone else.Almost always those united actions are successful.

I’ve been observing this for the last 20 years. Trump achieving something by being elected was the only real exception I’ve noticed. The shotgun hunt didn’t \gain much momentum until after he was elected.

John Hardy
July 30, 2022 12:46 pm

Love the quote from CS Lewis. The problem in a nutshell

Pat from kerbob
July 30, 2022 12:47 pm

My 3 week jaunt through the UK has left me somewhat depressed, as a gardener from Calgary it’s great and also defeating to see what can grow in a warm climate.

I’m now hoping AGW will lead to much longer summers and shorter winters back home
And maybe please no more -40 in winter.

Climate change I can believe in and get behind.

July 30, 2022 2:14 pm

You would be a fool indeed if you lived in the UK and ignored the plain evidence of UK weather and UK weather statistics this century….

…climate change is impacting the UK.

Reply to  griff
July 30, 2022 7:18 pm

right on cue

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
July 30, 2022 7:38 pm

That “heatwave” has passed you by. What are you complaining about now?

Reply to  griff
July 31, 2022 8:54 am

You would be a fool indeed if you lived in the Pacific Northwest and ignored the plain evidence of Pacific Northwest weather and Pacific Northwest weather statistics this century….

Where it has been much hotter than what YOU and your whining unprepared experienced.

It is forecasted to be 110 degrees F (43 C) in my area and already has been the previous days of 109 F, 109 F, 108 F, 108 F, 107 F 103 F.

Tomorrow is expected to be 105 F (41 C)

No mass deaths showed up because most people are prepared for it.

Matt G
July 30, 2022 2:20 pm

“Face Unprecedented Social Media Uprising”
Keep telling a lie frequently over time only leaves the public to judge that this is indeed a lie when reality bites. The responce is uprising in all forms especially social media. This will only get worse the more this restricts peoples freedom.

“According to the Met Office, climate change made the heatwave ten times more likely – although it is not possible to conclude causation definitively.”

Lie number 1

It wasn’t a heatwave with it not lasting 5 days. (most of the UK didn’t even have hot weather for 3 days) Even by their own definition that has been in operation for decades up until just the recent few years.

Lie number 2

There hasn’t been an increase in heatwaves yet, so how can they be ten times more likely when occuring within natural variation. The UK has not even had one heatwave this year using the proper heatwave definition. There use to be more extreme weather and longer droughts in past history going back centuries than recent decades.

Lie number 3

This is an assumption not based on any science that global warming had an influence. The very high temperatures come from North Africa directly via Spain and France towards the UK. Since when has global warming caused the wind direction from the South? It hasn’t, the Atlantic ocean will provide its usual westerly winds over time.

From this southerly direction it would had been hot/very hot 100 or 200 years ago and still wouldn’t had been a heatwave unless it lasted longer than 5 or more days.

The source with the highest temperature will give the most extreme temperatures when they reach the UK.

3rd July 1976 from Spain (35.9c)
10th August 2003 from Spain (38.5c)
19 July 2022 from North Africa (40.3c)

“African deserts are the sunniest and the driest parts of the continent, owing to the prevailing presence of the subtropical ridge with subsiding, hot, dry air masses. Africa holds many heat-related records: the continent has the hottest extended region year-round, the areas with the hottest summer climate, the highest sunshine duration, and more.”

Spain has hot Summers but they are cooler than North Africa. The air from Africa is very dry and low humidity promotes higher air temperatures. The high on 19th July 2022 for central England was absolutely unparalleled bacause the source of air had come from a hotter and drier region of North Africa not Spain, like the other record high temperature events from 1906, 1911, 1976, 1990 and 2003 just to name some examples.

Could this had occurred say 100+ years ago?


A warmer planet is likely to cause slightly higher temperatures but not needed in this case.
For example 35c/36c was widely recorded in England over the 1st and 2nd of September 1906. July is around 3c higher than September so 38c/39c could had been easily expected even back in 1906.

Was this source from 1906 extreme like from North Africa?


Saharan dust was reported to reach the UK around 18/19th July 2022 and is relatively common in the UK often happening a few times a year when big dust storms in the Sahara coincide with southerly wind patterns. On this occasion the air source was directly from North Africa unlike usual southerly wind patterns.

The source in 1906 was from Spain again so even though still very hot not as hot as North Africa. This means that if the source was from North Africa back in 1906 then temperatures would had been higher still. One or two degrees higher than the possible July temperatures back in 1906 of 38c/39c would lead to the current 40c recorded today. That provides the scientific evidence that the hot weather was not caused by climate change, but via the extreme source of air by the temporary pressure pattern highlighted by the ridge of high pressure.
The source of air from North Africa seems very rare in mid-summer so if this happens again like nature, it may happen shortly again in the near future or not happen again for decades. I have looked back at previous records back to 1906 and not found another example. This was a very usual weather event, not a pattern that often occurs in causing hot weather over the UK.


The biggest problem people face with these lies and the poltical laws forced on them to fight an invisble enemy. Are the hardship this brings and is already happening with increased communism and less freedom.

Matt G
Reply to  Matt G
July 30, 2022 2:47 pm

Towards the end before the summary, “this was a very unusual weather event”, not usual.

July 30, 2022 2:26 pm

“The urge to save humanity is almost always a 
false-front for the urge to rule it.”
– H.L. Mencken

“If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.”

– Joseph Goebbels

This describes the Believer meteorologists. If they do truly believe in CAGW, it’s only because they have fallen victim to their own lies. I have no sympathy for them.
Besides, they define disagreement as abuse, so it’s diffiuclt to know how “abusive” people really were. Either way, given the hell on earth they are trying to impose on their fellow humans, I have little sympathy for them.

July 30, 2022 3:20 pm

Eric The left does exactly that imitation calling people names and even trying to kill who the oppose. If we don’t get into face of the people who lie daily we will lose. Theathing people live and lively hood is meat and potatoes of the left. We should never threaten their lives but their lively hoods are fair game. Harassing them at outside their work and homes should be fair game. The right did not create this play book the left did and it about time they get a taste of what they created. We are on the door step of world famine(which may kill over a billion people) all created by these idiots they should be given no quarter.

July 30, 2022 4:48 pm

This has become a War for Truth and hurling abuse and threats are used as weapons because rational thought and reasearched facts have had no impact on the enemy.

July 30, 2022 5:44 pm

Don’t these online troll deplorables understand they’ll be permitted battery bicycles when the weather is changed by the omniscient ones?
Advocates say two-wheeled EVs a cheaper, greener option to de-carbonise transport (
What a bunch of ingrates!

Ulric Lyons
July 30, 2022 6:25 pm

Arrogant and precious narcissists with their anti-science claims of rising CO2 forcing increasing the risk of brief Saharan plumes. Rising CO2 is modeled to increase positive Northern Annual Mode conditions, which means a more northerly and less wavy jet stream, that is why the MetO predict warmer drier summers for the UK. While brief Saharan plumes are dependent on negative NAM and a wavier jet stream, and are predictably more common during low solar periods.

July 30, 2022 8:54 pm

As you were folks relaxed and comfortable as Kunio has run the numbers-
New Study Offers a Surprising Timeline For Earth’s Sixth Mass Extinction (
Always remember to trust the science and the scientists.

Reply to  observa
July 30, 2022 10:09 pm

I’m so fed up with all this nonsense, I’m almost to the point of thinking a Sixth Mass Extinction might not be a bad idea. Maybe it’s time to start over in the hopes that the next iteration of Mankind will be more rational and intelligent than homo sapiens?

Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
July 31, 2022 9:50 am

I doubt it. Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis, Heidelbergensis and the other iterations of Homo Sapiens were outbred by Homo Sapiens Sapiens who was weaker and a little less adaptable to differing conditions (we have to adapt conditions to suit us). The next iteration of Homo Sapiens is likely to be even less capable but just able to breed faster – not a legacy I’d wish on any planet!

July 30, 2022 10:00 pm

I disagree with Eric, he is off the mark. Sitting respectfully like a gentleman while someone is pounding the crap out of you is not a winning strategy. The green devils in government and the mainstream media are lying and cheating plus they have one another’s back. They are not impressed when we respectfully point out exactly how they are lying and cheating, they frankly could care less what we gentlemen think. They know we are basically powerless so long as the green devils control the agenda and the lousy press confirms to us that their lies are true. Wake up Eric.

UK-Weather Lass
July 31, 2022 12:01 am

When weather presenters abuse their roles by incorporating their personal opinions about the presence and causes of climate change into forecasts by whatever method they may choose then the general public have every right to criticise and question their motives.

If the driver of an electric ‘bus warned passengers not to get on board because of the risk of a battery explosion how long before their employer would sack them?

These people are supposed to be professional and yet they and their senior officers prove what a bunch of amateurs they really are.

Charles Pickles
July 31, 2022 12:13 am

The nature of the current and future generation of policy influencers and makers is accurately summed up as infantile. This article entitled “The West needs to grow up” by Paul Kingsnorth is a good read and clearly spells out what has been and continues to go wrong in western civilisation: It is also obvious the non-western world has realised what a lot of tosh has been generated over the business of climate change, and are working hard to undo much of the damage that religious cult has imposed. Hand waving, shouting and fearmongering are the traits of bullies, who are actually so insecure in themselves that they need to develop their own little, unrealistic, world(s) and encourage groupthink to sustain them.

Met Office. Given the wealth of publicly available data and earth imagery, who needs forecasters anyway when, if one was intelligent enough a bit of weather history and ability to reason and project, it can be done by oneself. Traditional country folk had the knack before instrumentation.

Reply to  Charles Pickles
July 31, 2022 2:03 am

read this:- you will cheer up, especially the inevitable conclusions and the outright condemnation of the ridiculous German energy policy and its shutting all their NPPs!

Things are changing and FASTER than you might imagine.
People are getting genuinely afraid of FREEZING TO DEATH this winter!

“The biggest addicts among the European Union countries, led by Germany, must compensate for the damage they inflict on the indirect victims of their actions. If you want cheap but bloody gas from Russia, at least absolve yourself from the blame of supporting the war in Ukraine through providing it with money and arms.

Even then, would Russian gas and oil still be worth it?
To avoid so-called energy starvation in Europe, we should put the costly and ineffective green revolution on pause at the moment, and invest instead in nuclear power plants and recycle the fossil fuels in our ground.

Be it coal or, in the case of Estonians, oil shale. This implies getting our hands dirty, but at least we won’t have the blood of Ukrainians on our sleeves.

The current green energy technology does not provide us with energy independence, especially in winter. Let’s not forget, the green revolution is partly to blame for European countries becoming dependent on Russian gas. Germany has shut down its nuclear power plants at the insistence of the Greens and Russian gas was considered then ideal transitional energy.

We now face the result of that judgement.”


slow to follow
July 31, 2022 12:24 am

This makes sobering reading on “the big picture” of which climate change is just a part:

Rhys Jaggar
July 31, 2022 4:03 am

The problem Mr Worrall, is that the cost of running a campaign is several thousand pounds per candidate. First, you have to lodge a deposit with those managing the running of elections (designed to stop timewasters) – it’s well over £1000. Then, to even get a modicum of voter awareness, you will need to leaflet about 20,000-30,000 homes at least three times during a campaign. Call it 100,000 leaflets to get delivered. That doesn’t come cheap.

The reality is that you need to be rich to run as a minority party candidate.

Most rich people aren’t on the front line when it comes to suffering from energy crises.

July 31, 2022 7:21 am

“You aren’t smart enough to tell me how to live.” — Late Great Canadian blogger Kathy Shaidle 

Just the Facts
July 31, 2022 11:40 am

Anecdotal, but…

I monitored the temperatures between 17 and 19 July very carefully at my location in rural SE England.

On 18 July the max recorded (I make no claims about the accuracy of amateur equipment, but it was properly sited albeit too close to a tarmac farm courtyard) was 36 C. On the other 2 days of the much touted “heatwave” it topped out at 32 C.

Here is the interesting thing. The last time we had weather comparable was in June/July 2001 and again in June 2003.

That same equipment measured similar temperatures then, albeit the absolute max measured was 34 C. The 2001 heat lasted longer at 5 days, with 14/15 days of warm weather with daily maxima at above 28 C. I know, I was working outside in it.

The Met Office relentlessly peddles an agenda. Frankly they deserve ridicule and have earned contempt. A sad fall for British meteorology, once so good that Ike committed an invasion army to a very narrow 6 June 1944 window based on what was predicted some days before – it was that or delay indefinitely because (if I recall correctly) the right tides wouldnt come round again for several weeks.

July 31, 2022 1:15 pm
July 31, 2022 5:44 pm

he Met Office’s lead meteorologist asked for ‘a bit of respect’ for his colleagues”

Respect is earned! Not granted because the Met Office believes they deserve respect for their fallacious claims.

Before I read Climategate I thought alarmists were all scientific frauds, but after I read Climategate I realised there is a range of motivations. Many if not all of them actually believe. Even when they hide declines or try to have open minded science journal editors fired, or manipulate data from New Zealand which strongly suggests the MWP was global, they think they are being the good guys.” 


What is this, the Santa Clause defense!? Irresponsible concern for the Met O self claimed victims?

“The best course in my opinion is to find and vote for politicians whose priority is fixing today’s problems, rather than politicians whose obsession is what the weather will be like after we are all dead.”

Which group of entrenched corrupt politicians are you looking at!?

Do have or intend to publish a list?
Are you going to form your own political website, supporting candidate you believe are trying to fix real problems?

Which should draw attention to you and bring you thousands of phony claims to “fix today’s problems” and demands that you support them, or else.

Hitler believed he was a “good guy” for trying to fix the German bloodline/race ‘problem’.

Read Mark Steyn’s book, “A Disgrace to the Profession”.Or reread the climategate emails where Trenberth threatens honest scientists and no-one is upset. 

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