Left Greta Thunberg. Right UK PM Boris Johnson. By Foreign and Commonwealth Office - Beyond Brexit: A Global Britain, CC BY 2.0, link

British PM Capitulates to Greta Thunberg

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Following Greta’s recent temper tantrum, in which she slammed allegedly green leaders for their lack of progress, politicians are making a big show of their contrition.

Climate change: Youth have ‘every right to be angry’ says UK PM

By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent, Milan

Boris Johnson says young people have every right to be angry about the state of climate change. 

The UK prime minister told climate activists in Milan that they were paying the price for the “reckless actions of their elders”. 

The penitent mood here was underlined by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi, who said politicians needed to be “whipped into action.”

Both agreed that urgent action to limit warming was now desperately needed.

They’ve heard from a host of voices including Greta Thunberg who castigated politicians for dashing the hopes and dreams of young people. 

Speaking here today, several senior politicians conceded that Ms Thunberg was essentially correct in her analysis. 

“Young people around the world are already paying the price for the reckless actions of their elders,” said Mr Johnson. 

“Hundreds of millions of you are facing rising seas, failing crops, burning forests, and evermore ferocious storms, daily challenges that lead to lost opportunity. And your future is literally being stolen before your eyes.”

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58750164

It is possible the politicians all actually mean to keep their promises they will try harder, but I think there is room for doubt.

And it seems unlikely Greta would accept even a genuine British effort to go green.

As the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, in the eyes of deep greens, Britain more than anywhere is irredeemably guilty of climate sin.

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October 1, 2021 10:05 pm

She might remind him of home?

Reply to  Dennis
October 1, 2021 10:22 pm

Very likely, Dennis.

But maybe Greta (and perhaps Carrie, too) has something to worry about.

It is obvious that what passes for Boris’s brain, resides in his bellend.

A great one for fresh totty is our Boris!

Nice to see our old chum Matt McGrath on his jolly to Milan. No doubt he’s hugging plenty of Chinamen!

October 2, 2021 3:46 am

Well-written Martin – but let’s show BoJo a little kindness and understanding. He’s in love, and men in love do foolish things that they later regret – we’ve all been there.
As I explained in a previous post in 2020:
BoJo is now BloJo – his new lefty lady friend has bewitched him. It’s a medical fact – guys get a new girlfriend who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose and the vacuum affects their brain – it’s like altitude sickness – the living brain-dead.

The Saint
Reply to  Allan MacRae
October 2, 2021 7:51 pm

You know, Thunberg is such an angry little girl. It must be because she is so ugly and stupid that she will never be married.

Reply to  The Saint
October 7, 2021 10:10 pm

Please be a little more Saint-like.
Greta is a child and I do not make war on children.

Reply to  Dennis
October 2, 2021 12:11 am

What’s new, he capitulates to anything wearing a skirt.

Reply to  Vuk
October 2, 2021 3:19 pm

My advice to Boris would be, “Don’t travel to Scotland.”

October 1, 2021 10:10 pm

Horribly embarrassing.
So many politicians with no scientific knowledge or experience at all being fooled by utter
Destroying the future of young people whilst pretending to help them.

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 2, 2021 12:51 am

It seems to be forgotten that Greta is from a theatrical family background and is in a sense a puppet provided with her lines and stage managed by a young but older women from Germany.

The political theatre stage of climate hoax.

Reply to  Dennis
October 2, 2021 1:53 am

Child abuse.

Reply to  Dennis
October 2, 2021 7:08 pm

And is autistic.

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 2, 2021 1:52 am

Why does an allegedly bright man with a degree from Oxford take any notice of a mentally ill teenage high school dropout?
Or is it Princess Nut Nut making him sleep on the couch?
Either way neither of these loons were elected, he was.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 3, 2021 5:15 am

The trouble is that a degree often masks that the person lacks any common sense and is in fact – apart from the subject they studied – quite ignorant. In addition to this, the womanising lying oaf Johnson does a very good clowning buffoon act that fools most people. I can still see him being gone before next year is out. Either walking out to preserve his future money-making or being ejected by his party as a liability.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 4, 2021 7:29 am

She actually dropped out while still in middle school.
Never made it to High School.

Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 2, 2021 2:33 am

These politicians are NOT being fooled.
It is just part of a script

Greta gets her script and talks some crap
and the Boris’ part is to pretend how impressed he is(while he tries to surpress his laughter) – except that Greta does not know she is playing a role,but Boris does..

It’ s the same as with Iraq WMD’s.
Everyone knew from the beginning that it was a lie – because so were all the previuos wars started.
What made Iraq more special is that this lie was far more obvious as Bush was caught just minutes ago with a lie to attack Iraq( Yellow Cake lie),
Yet not a single “expert”,politician or journalist was able to say 1+1 =2, it’s an obvious lie though they even had to suicide Dr Kelly in the meantime to avoid exposure.
The bank billionaires got the war they wanted.

Same withe Greta.
Greta is the WMD lie that replaced the Yellow Cake lie Severn Suzuki at the UN.,
like Moses Hess(Frankfurt ) was replaced by Karl Marx(Frankfurt) after he created communism and ” revolutions”started all over Europe but people realized there’s something fishy going on.

October 1, 2021 10:16 pm

This La Nina looks locked-in.
–         Major cold in four months (and sooner).
–         Energy systems in the UK and Germany compromised by intermittent green energy nonsense.
–         The “”Perfect Storm”, brewed by idiot politicians
–         What could possibly go wrong with these energy-imbeciles in charge?
–         This will end badly.

I tried to warn them in 2002 and 2013, but they would not listen.

Regards, Allan

“…and therefore send not to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee.”
— John Donne (1624) From Meditations, XVII

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Well, there it is – the perfect Trifecta – my work here is done.


3. “If [as we believe] solar activity is the main driver of surface temperature rather than CO2, we should begin the next cooling period by 2020 to 2030.”
– Allan MacRae et al, 2002
3a. “I suggest global cooling starts by 2020 or sooner. Bundle up.”
Allan MacRae, 2013

Regards to all, Allan MacRae

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Allan MacRae
October 2, 2021 7:22 am

“The “”Perfect Storm”, brewed by idiot politicians”

That’s what we have.

October 1, 2021 10:20 pm

Youth is wasted on the young.
Ain’t nuthin gonna change that.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  u.k.(us)
October 2, 2021 7:27 am

Think of being a kid today and trying to sort out the blizzard of propaganda and opposing views they are exposed to on a daily basis. Without someone to guide them like good parents or a good teacher, they are going to have a lot of trouble figuring out what is true and what is not true. Their/our current leaders leave a lot to be desired. Our leaders delusions make them incapable of sorting the true from the false, so they are no help to the kids. They are more of a hindrance than anything.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 2, 2021 12:49 pm

it seems that not only are the three Rs poorly taught, but the fourth R, Reasoning, has totally disappeared from the education curriculum. Children are taught to parrot but not reason cogently. They are spoon fed and not taught to solve problems working from first principles. Sadly this has infected every level of education. Never have we had as many dumb graduates with so many degrees. That is why we cannot engage with them in a civil discourse on a subject like climate. Like you, I blame many adults and have pity for those going against the political current.

October 1, 2021 10:27 pm

Just another con artist politician grifter who says anything to appease people so he can keep on grifting.

John Doran
October 1, 2021 10:45 pm

Proof positive our political systems are beyond repair.
A pol with a reputation as a famous liar & begetter of sprogs attempts to fashion world climate policy after the lead of a nasty tempered teenager who has been indoctrinated with nonsense.
It would be funny were it not deadly serious.
I wonder when China & Russia will bring down the curtain on this nastiest of pantomimes?

Reply to  John Doran
October 2, 2021 2:22 am

The Russians are already withholding gas from western Europe due to politics over Nordstream 2. Once that’s complete they’ll be able to hold western Europe to ransom whilst seriously undermining Ukraine.

All the while the UK and EU countries are against fracking and energy independence.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rusty
October 2, 2021 6:10 am

“All the while the UK and EU countries are against fracking and energy independence.”

And all based on lies & deceit & left-wing propaganda! Oh how Russia & China & North Korea must be rubbing their hands with glee, the West is falling apart with Greenalism, just as they wanted!!!

Richard Page
Reply to  Rusty
October 2, 2021 10:39 am

They’re not exactly withholding the gas – they have supplied every bit of gas that the existing contracts demand; they are completely honouring their side of the bargain. However, the EU are desperately trying to source as much gas as possible as they underestimated how much they would need. It’s this extra non-contracted gas that the Russians are getting sticky about – presumably they are after more concessions or a higher price if they hold out a bit longer! Can’t really blame the Russians for putting the squeeze on the EU – it’s a sellers market now.

Chris Hanley
October 1, 2021 10:56 pm

Q. What is Matt McGrath the BBC’s environment correspondent doing in Milan, did he use fossil fuels getting there and if so is his trip really necessary?
A. He is attending a meeting of ‘ministers’ in preparation for the big shindig in Glasgow in November.
Greta and 400 of her young followers are also in Milan ‘to formulate a response to rising temperatures’, how did they get there and if by using fossil fuels are their trips really necessary?
Guys: there is a fossil fuel caused climate emergency don’t forget.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
October 1, 2021 11:09 pm

All good for them, the EU has exempted private executive jet aircraft from carbon or emissions tax levied against commercial aircraft.


Alan the Brit
Reply to  Chris Hanley
October 2, 2021 6:13 am

No, not for them, it’s only for the others, they mustn’t be prevented from travelling the World to spread their message, that the ONLY solution to manmade Globul Warming is the creation & establishment of a one-World guvment, owning ALL the World’s resources to be metered out as they see fit, once all the democratic countries have been reduced to poverty!!!

October 1, 2021 11:07 pm

Where oh where are the adults??

Reply to  ParmaJohn
October 2, 2021 1:02 am

Pulling the strings:)

Rory Forbes
October 1, 2021 11:09 pm

Boris Johnson says young people have every right to be angry about the state of climate change.

Then Boris Johnson is even more of a bloody fool than I originally thought. Pandering to angry, omnipotent children with no clue about science is pathetic. To perform like a trained seal for the whole world to see deserves nothing but scorn.

These people must learn that there will never be enough humiliation to suit them, because none of it is based on any science. There is no enough.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
October 2, 2021 12:49 am

“Then Boris Johnson is even more of a bloody fool than I originally thought.”

That’s why he was put in charge of the Leave campaign

He was supposed to lose it

Reply to  fretslider
October 2, 2021 1:54 am

Ah, yes, hadn’t realised that.

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 2, 2021 2:13 am

Indeed! As Mrs Gove (allegedly) told her husband the morning after the referendum, quoting that deathless line from The Italian Job, “you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  fretslider
October 2, 2021 10:09 am

He was supposed to lose it

LOL … that’s hysterical.

October 1, 2021 11:25 pm

Is there any evidence AT ALL that the world is doomed in (some number) of years if we do not DO something?

Reply to  Damon
October 2, 2021 12:00 am

Yes when (Some number) = 4*10^9

Reply to  JohnC
October 2, 2021 12:08 am

four by ten to the nine youth today would have no idea what that means

Alan the Brit
Reply to  H B
October 2, 2021 6:16 am

Well I know for a fact that 5 out of 3 of them can’t do fractions either!!!

Ken Irwin
Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 2, 2021 7:45 am

In the words of the Two Ronnies :- “50% can’t read, 50% can’t write and the other half can’t add up!”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Ken Irwin
October 2, 2021 11:05 am

If the can’t reads and can’t wrights groups are one and the same, no problem with the math.

David Stone CEng
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 3, 2021 2:02 am

If you can’t read of course it is impossible to write!How would you check that your scribbled ravings were correct?
Strangely that is the problem with climate loons, they cannot understand the data so they write rubbish which the others cannot understand, and so it goes on!

Reply to  JohnC
October 2, 2021 1:56 am

Although the only thing we could do then is leave this planet.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 2, 2021 4:43 am

The new interstellar Ark B — which will be launched first — will be crewed by colonists chosen for their intellectual capacities. Only Oxford PPE candidates need apply.

Watch out for the mutant star goat.

Max More
Reply to  Julian Flood
October 2, 2021 12:06 pm

Watch it, mate! We Oxford PPE’ers aren’t all idiot lefty climate catastrophists. At my college (St. Anne’s) I was one of a very few standing up to the hardcore socialists that dominated the JCR (Junior Common Room — the bi-weekly meeting of all interested students to discuss and debate on political matters).

The few conservatives appreciated my stand when it coincided with theirs. Not so much when it didn’t (not often in that environment). At a university-wide meeting whose speakers were national politicians and top trade union leaders, everyone was stunned when I argued that not only should they not be discussing what to nationalize next, they should be pushing to privatize everything.

Then, as now, an Oxford student (yes, PPE, 1984-87) was not someone you would expect to have read Friedman, Hayek, Rothbard, Popper, and Rand.

One of my courses was Marxism. My prof. was quite happy with my papers every week, as I calmly analyzed the distinctions between Marx, Engels, Lenin, Gramsci, and the other idiots. He was very unhappy with my last paper that blasted the whole Marxist system and gave them responsibility for the death and misery of millions.

Even as a teenager and protester in CND (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament) I seemed to be the ONLY one who opposed nuclear weapons but favored nuclear power. And that was before I read the brilliant The Health Hazards of NOT Going Nuclear by Petr Beckman in 1982.

So, don’t tar and feather all of us, my good fellow. I aim to be on one of those spaceships — not to Musk’s Mars but to a non-planetary colony with a fresh pro-freedom constitution. All is probably lost here, so a new society in space may be the only way back to freedom. (And I’m not going to see that unless we sort out the aging problem in time.)

David Stone CEng
Reply to  Max More
October 3, 2021 2:07 am

Very good Max, I gave you a plus (largely for eloquence) but I wouldn’t go without the Engineers like me, because paper shifting and talking arn’t much good when life gets a bit problematic and you can’t fix the technology!

Reply to  Damon
October 2, 2021 2:14 pm

Well, you see: all the plants, animals, microbes and ecosystems can handle swings of temperature in the scores of degrees every year, but are incapable of surviving an increase of average temperatures a few hundredths of a degree over the same period.

Because Science!

October 1, 2021 11:29 pm

It is a shame that history no longer seems to be taught in schools, let alone climate History. It seems that weather and climate only began around the year 1990.


Reply to  tonyb
October 2, 2021 1:55 am

No longer education, more like brainwashing.

Reply to  tonyb
October 2, 2021 2:15 am

I thought it was 1979 when the satellites first got round to sending back pictures of Arctic ice.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Newminster
October 2, 2021 9:19 am

There were other satellites taking pictures of the arctic before 1979. The Landsat satellites gave a lot of coverage.

I see where NASA just launched the latest Landsat satellite a few days ago.

I used to have a big, coffee-table type book of many of the Landsat photographs taken back in the early 1970’s. I don’t know where that book got off to. It’s around here somewhere.

I also became aware that Carolyn Shoemaker, a great astronomer, and ground breaker, died last month. Rest in Peace, Carolyn.

Carolyn Shoemaker, Hunter of Comets and Asteroids, Dies at 92

Dave Fair
Reply to  Newminster
October 2, 2021 11:36 am

The justification for the satellite-based temperature sensing devices was that historical land and ocean temperature estimates were not accurate enough for scientific work. When the satellite and radiosonde data that came in started contradicting the old measurements, CliSciFi practitioners (including Mears at RSS) began to deny the accuracy of satellite and radiosonde estimates.

CliSciFi practitioners began ignoring pre-1979 satellite ice extent data because it showed divergence from the ideological meme. Pre-1979 satellite ice data “disappeared” from the public domain.

It is now clear that the approximate 70-year cycle of Arctic sea ice extent (among other cyclical climate factors) has switched to the more-abundant phase. I’m not sure if it is absolutely true, but the 2020s should tell the tale.

I ignore all the land/ocean historical datasets and concentrate on radiosondes, satellites and ARGO. BTW, the U.S. pristine-site and advanced measurement devices of the USCR network show no warming since about 2005.

We can surely wait 10 years in our rush to ruin the West and install a world-wide socialist government.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 3, 2021 6:44 am

“The justification for the satellite-based temperature sensing devices was that historical land and ocean temperature estimates were not accurate enough for scientific work.”

That was one of the selling points NASA was using at the time to promote satellite-based temperature sensing. NASA said it would be more accurate than previous methods. I agree.

Now, NASA wants to ignore the satellite data because it tells a different story than the story NASA now wants to tell.

Bill Toland
October 1, 2021 11:37 pm

I have never understood the amount of attention that Greta Thunberg gets in the media. It is blatantly obvious that she is utterly clueless about everything. Why would anybody take advice from an ill-educated teenage moron who played truant from school too many times?

Reply to  Bill Toland
October 1, 2021 11:49 pm

You missed out the “mentally subnormal” (aspurgers)!!!!

Reply to  Crowcatcher
October 2, 2021 12:54 am

Recently I viewed a repeat of a movie and German Hitler Youth movement, there were many “Greta” girls and boys in uniforms.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Crowcatcher
October 2, 2021 11:37 am

Did you mean “ass-burgers?”

Reply to  Bill Toland
October 2, 2021 12:50 am

She was created by “We Don’t Have Time”

John Larson
Reply to  Bill Toland
October 2, 2021 4:46 am

You’re asking the wrong question, I suggest. Instead ask: Why do politicians pretend they take advice from an ill-educated teenage moron who played truant from school too many times?

Of course they don’t really take her advice, it’s just choreographed propaganda . . most of which seems to me to be based on “occultism” style implied connections. The young will ostensibly experience all sorts of nasty climate convulsions and such, so the young are presented as more “in touch” with that future suffering.

Truth is, they’ve been indoctrinated their whole lives to believe they are going to suffer climate catastrophe in the future, so they are useful for getting many adults to imagine the kids dramatic future suffering, rather than pay as much attention to their own as energy prices rise and blackouts increase and so on, because of (their) money getting wasted on intermittent/expensive power sources. If they complain, they don’t love the children/are out of touch with their suffering . .

Alan the Brit
Reply to  John Larson
October 2, 2021 6:19 am

“Climate catastrophe” = Ice-Age Cometh!!!

Dave Fair
Reply to  John Larson
October 2, 2021 11:40 am

That works until the adults get into the privacy of the voting booth. If the past year or so and upcoming winter doesn’t change some adults’ minds, then we are doomed.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 3, 2021 6:55 am

Yes, we are coming to an inflection point. Are the majority of humans smart enough to save themselves in the current environment?

California failed the test. But maybe that’s just because California is a special circumstance. Let’s hope. Otherwise, we are in for a long slog.

We’ll be like the citizens of Afghanistan, watching our freedoms taken away from us on a daily basis, until we are completely under the thumb, and at the mercy of people who have no mercy.

Therapeutics may save us from the petty Wuhan virus dictators, in the near future, but nothing will save us from stupid politicians, if we continue to elect them.

Everything radical leftwing politicians touch is ruined. Don’t elect radical leftwing politicians, if you know what’s good for you. They will promise you the world while stealing away your personal freedoms.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bill Toland
October 3, 2021 6:47 am

“Why would anybody take advice from an ill-educated teenage moron who played truant from school too many times?”

You have to take into consideration who is listening to her and promoting her. They are not mental giants.

Reply to  Bill Toland
October 3, 2021 11:12 pm

Greta is a P.R. device. Anyone sharing the limelight with her is demonstrating their membership of the Green Blob as their major allegiance.

October 1, 2021 11:41 pm

Boris apparently decides policy on whatever the media says that morning.

Reply to  zemlik
October 2, 2021 12:10 am
Rhys Jaggar
October 2, 2021 12:17 am

‘Whilst I absolutely subscribe to the right to free speech, which allows an 18 year old without an undergraduate degree the right to express opinions without censure, bullying nor incarceration, I am absolutely not prepared to be lectured to by a person who has no competence to understand the science of climate change, is economically illiterate in the extreme and does not seem to understand that she is but 1 human being of 7.7 billion on this planet and hence does not deserve a particularly significant ‘share of voice’ in the international media.

I am sure that Ms Thunberg is an ardent student of the satellite data studies concerning arctic sea ice extent. She will, I am sure, be absolutely appalled to hear that the summer ice extent minimum for 2021 was reached around the middle of September and was the highest minimum sea ice extent since 2014. Ms Thunberg will I am sure be acutely aware that the decline of sea ice extent from 1980 to 2012 has now stabilised and is starting to reverse and points to the most likely scenario for Arctic Sea Ice being a cyclical oscillation of sea ice extent between maxima and minima with a projected beat in the multidecadal range. As an expert climate scientist, I am sure she is aware that the detailed data sets are not yet of sufficient duration to allow us to calculate the exact length of that beat accurately.

I am sure that Ms Thunberg is also well aware of the data covering insurance damages due to extreme weather events going back over a century and would not be surprised to learn that, far from the past 10 years being unparalleled in the amounts of damages suffered, that by far the worst decade for such damages was the 1930s. I am sure that Ms Thunberg is also horrified to learn that human death statistics due to extreme weather events have fallen drastically since the 1930s, which does suggest that we are not about to all be incinerated within the next 9 years, since the data has been eminently stable for the past 40 years.

I am sure that Ms Thunberg is well aware of the data covering historical megadroughts in California, pointing to whole centuries of protracted drought and water deficits. Such epochs render the current short-term major drought situation in SW USA nothing more than part of the reality of living in that part of the world and I am sure that the avid student that Ms Thunberg is will be aware in detail of the quite astonishingly severe drought that happened around an epicentre of 1977, when the winter snows in the Sierra Nevada dropped to levels never even remotely approached in the intervening 54 winters. She will no doubt be aware of how the 1982/83 el Nino brought tremendous winter precipitation to California, as has been the case on around half a dozen occasions subsequently. ENSO-related climate variations in California is situation normal, it has nothing to do with ‘climate change’. I remain confident that Ms Thunberg will study sufficiently in the next 12 months to present an authoritative paper on seasonal rainfall variability in California going back to well before the epic 1861/62 floods.

I am sure that Ms Thunberg has made a detailed study of the 24 solar cycles to have been documented since the emergence from the Maunder Minimum in the late 1700s. She will doubtless not have been surprised to see the sun enter a period of less intense sunspot activity in the recently completed cycle 24, especially if she has read a significant number of research papers from Professor Leif Svalgaard of Stanford University. She may well be aware that the predictions for cycle 25 do not suggest that an uptick in maximum amplitude is expected for the newly started cycle.

I expect that Ms Thunberg will have communicated directly with Dr Joe d’Aleo, whose studies trying to correlate US land temperatures with a variety of parameters led to the conclusion that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere correlated poorly with temperature over the past 150 years. She will be doubtless aware that far closer correlations existed with the oceanic modulation indices termed PDO and AMO, one for the Pacific and one for the Atlantic. She will doubtless as a curious student be trying to understand why that might be the case.

I expect Ms Thunberg to be an expert on the details of the most historically significant floods worldwide since the birth of Jesus Christ and, that being the case, she will doubtless be aware that the floods in Germany and Belgium would not rank very highly up any list of historically disastrous floods globally. She would have been in direct communication with President Xi of China to enquire on quite how many times the Yellow River and the Yangtze river have flooded over the entirety of the Chinese civilisation in addition to the disastrous floods in the late 19th and early 20th centuries which combined caused well over 1 million deaths. She may indeed learn that cyclical beats in major river flooding events have been detected by those who studied the weather before Maurice Strong et al got their tentacles on the tiller of global climate discussions.

I am sure that Ms Thunberg has been educated by the commercial tomato growing industry about the absolute love affair that has existed for decades between tomato plants and carbon dioxide. She will be appalled to learn that tomatoes grow superbly in atmospheres containing 1000ppm+ of carbon dioxide. There are no political iconoclasts in those greenhouses, there are merely hard-nosed business folk wanting to grow and sell as many tomatoes as they can in the most effective way possible. Some basic undergraduate studies on the principles of Enzyme Kinetics (notably the Michaelis-Menten equation) might help her to understand why photosynthesis will proceed faster as carbon dioxide levels increase, so long as one or more of the substrates/input variables is limiting to enzyme reaction kinetics in the real world. She might then understand how increasing carbon dioxide results in accelerating rates of plant and tree growth, thus accelerating the rate of removal of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. She will also be in need of explaining why plant root zones are healthy when 4000ppm of carbon dioxide is to be found in the soil there. If carbon dioxide is a poison, it is clear that trees were given a ‘get out of carbon-dioxide-jail free’ card….

I am sure that Ms Thunberg is completely au fait with the concept of ‘baseline essential energy provision’, especially coming from a country with as cold a winter as Sweden. The concept is the sole reason why millions living above 55N latitude don’t die of cold in the winter, Ms Thunberg. It refers to sources of energy which can reliably be supplied at a constant rate 24hrs a day, 365 days a year and those which also have a reliable means of storing either generated energy or forms of potential energy to be used whenever a shortfall might occur.

Ms Thunberg is doubtless aware that wind energy is not reliable whenever a massive great high pressure sits over your wind turbines. That rules out wind energy for vast areas of Siberia, is probably not a good idea when Scandinavia has an enormous high over its land masses for 6 weeks in winter (if that happens regularly). It is also not much use as an energy supplier if winds blow at over 60mph, which makes it pretty stupid for places like the Shetland Islands, the Faroe Islands, plenty of places in Patagonia etc etc.

Ms Thunberg is also doubtless aware that solar power wouldn’t be much use inside the Arctic Circle, since when you need energy the most in winter it is dark 24 hrs a day.It’s probably quite reliable in subtropical desert regions, when the sun blazes down all day, every day, most days of the year. The thing is: most people don’t want to live in the middle of a scorching hot desert, do they?

So the bottom line for Ms Thunberg to solve is the conundrum of how you provide reliable cheap power if you abolish coal, oil, gas and nuclear energy.

She isn’t a credible politician if she neither has a solution to that conundrum nor does she allow the legacy energy sources to remain in operation until one emerges.

It says much about the corruption at the top of global affairs that a tantrum-throwing emotional toddler with almost zero knowledge of the key issues affecting climate and energy supplies should be regarded as ‘the red hot favourite to win the Nobel Peace Prize’.

I wasn’t aware of Ms Thunberg brokering peace talks between Palestinians, Israelis, the Lebanese, the Iranians, the Syrians and the Saudis recently. There’s plenty of need to broker peace there.

I am not aware of President Putin of Russia deferring to her expertise in how to negotiate peacefully in Belarus despite repeated attempts by the West to organise a Colour Revolution.

Talks on the Korean Peninsula have not been brokered by Ms Thunberg and I’m not aware of initiatives to try and bring peace to Algeria having originated in a Swedish teenager’s global family office either.

My advice to Ms Thunberg is very simple: get a very skeptical education, get a life, enjoy being young before you become too old to do so.

Learn quite how astonishingly ignorant you actually are about the real world before telling those who are absolutely aware of the enormous gaps in mankind’s knowledge base that they don’t know what they are talking about.

Of course, if you are a charlatan on the make and on the take, playing a game to create a Family Foundation of $10m+ on the back of being a stroppy little teenager throwing tantrums the world over, then the game is about how many spineless morons in positions of power are too cowardly to tell you precisely where to get off.

Now you are 18, it is entirely allowable to speak to you this way.

It was before you were 18, seeing as how you were trying to become a global ‘superstar’ on the ‘ignorant influencer’ circuit so beloved of the windbags of the world.

I doubt very much that the Nobel Committee will take much notice of this. They will have their instructions, after all, and the Peace Prize never was really for true adherents of Peace, was it?

But don’t expect me or anyone like me to treat you with deference, respect, nor even to consider you a political heavyweight.

You are a chancer whose parents’ influence allowed you to get lucky.

And if the world has any sanity whatsoever, your fifteen minutes of undeserved fame are surely up…..’

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar
October 2, 2021 12:40 pm

Well said, but I doubt whether Ms Thunberg has the patience or intelligence to read such a lengthy essay. Needs to go back to school!

Reply to  Rhys Jaggar
October 2, 2021 2:21 pm

sadly you filled your post with some serious bollox.

“I am not aware of President Putin of Russia deferring to her expertise in how to negotiate peacefully in Belarus despite repeated attempts by the West to organise a Colour Revolution.”

The Lukashenko is the problem, and when an entire election is a scam, people have enough courage to go out in the streets, and get brutalised for their trouble.
(was same in Romania, which rightly put Ceaușescu, and his wife against the wall with live bullets to end it all!)

Your post here makes you clearly a complete d..ckhead!
shame on you!

October 2, 2021 12:46 am

Boris agrees with the last person he spoke with

That hasn’t changed

Reply to  fretslider
October 2, 2021 2:21 am

“A politician is an arse on which everyone has sat except a man” (e e cummings)

” … like the feather pillow, bears the marks of the last person who has sat upon him.” (Originally attributed to Earl Haig speaking of Lord Derby; frequently recycled since!)

Climate believer
October 2, 2021 1:02 am

What a cuck…..

Peta of Newark
October 2, 2021 1:03 am

I do ‘feel’ for Greta – about how she’s being (ab)used

This sounds awful but from my non-medical experience of mentally disabled people, they are like computers in many ways.
Especially that:

  1. they are always brutally honest – they simply don’t get the point of mendacity
  2. they have very good memories
  3. they’re what might be called ‘brash’ – they don’t hold anything back…..
  4. …….they really do ‘feel’ what they feel. aka Emotionalism
  5. they are very loyal. Can and will get very angry about something/anything but after ‘next-to-no-time’ and left to their own devices, it is all completely forgiven.
  6. there can be, and often is, very bright sparks of incredible originality BUT, in the field of ‘art’ rather than maths or science
  7. they have empathy in spades – which harks back to #1 above and, my opinion is where Mr Trump ‘went wrong’ ……
  8. ……..i.e Empathy involves honesty, as opposed Sympathy = mendacity
  9. being surrounded by liars/frauds makes them deeply genuinely sad Not= depressed, sad) Therein can trigger the Emotionalism at #4

See the pattern in there – Greta lives in a very On/Off world and there she goes.
But and over her whole life to date, she has been programmed (by her father?) and all she’s really doing is playing out her programming, exactly like Climate Model Computers do.

As I said, it would soon all blow over because Greta in herself would realise she is losing what friends she has and making enemies and it is my Point 5 that would normally call a halt pretty quickly. Her strong ’empathy gene’ would kick in and realise that

Something/someone has got to get between her and her programmer, just like climate models

<chuckle> Hooda thunk: Greta = Model
Coz that is what she is, ‘cept its her father who, according Urban Legend, won’t get outta bed of a morn for less than 10 Grand – or a Round-the-World jollification, as we all saw.
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Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 2, 2021 2:25 am

I agree. Autism is no fun to live with and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Very little of the blame for Greta’s beliefs and behaviour are down to her. “Child abuse” doesn’t really start to describe it. Very sad.

Richard Page
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 2, 2021 10:42 am

Don’t knock Greta’s father – he’s the best that money can buy!

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 2, 2021 1:50 am

Explain: ‘the state of climate change’.

But perhaps this is the straw that breaks the camels back. Backbenchers rebelling against a PM kowtowing to an ignorant petulant brat who doesn’t have a clue where her next meal comes from. I am beginning to hope that in a year’s time someone else occupies Nr 10.

Stephen Skinner
October 2, 2021 2:05 am

Not a grown up with any backbone in site, or reported on at least. This was Michael Gove’s response to this child last time she trashed probably the most important and good revolution in all of history:
Response from Michael Gove:
“Your voice – still, calm and clear – is like the voice of our conscience, When I listened to you, I felt great admiration, but also responsibility and guilt. I am of your parents’ generation, and I recognise that we haven’t done nearly enough to address climate change and the broader environmental crisis that we helped to create.”
There are a few grown ups left but they are attacked, such as Trump.

El Duchy
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 2, 2021 3:44 am

I agree but except the three main parties are all the same. Labor is as green as the Tories and LibDems are worse. It has to be someone from other than the LIbLabCon triumvirate of dummies.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 2, 2021 4:48 am

There is a most ghastly image of Gove staring adoringly at the doom goblin as she lets rip with one of her emotional and ignorant rants. With politicians like this no wonder the UK is in trouble.


Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Julian Flood
October 2, 2021 2:00 pm

All images of gove are ghastly. You’ll have to link to it. On second thought, PLEASE don’t.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 2, 2021 4:59 am

What climate change and environmental crisis??? The planet is spinning around just fine, nothing is wrong and things are decidedly better for all of us than they were 100 years ago. I can’t figure out what these clowns are going on about because it just is not out there to observe.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
October 2, 2021 6:25 am

I’ll give a short timeframe but I wouldn’t be surprised that the volcanic eruptions on La Palma will be blamed on manmade globul warming!!!

I recall several years ago part of North-West England suffered an earth tremor, & some ignorant people were blaming globul warming for it!!!

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 2, 2021 6:35 am

It could equally have been a joker? They both sound similar only one has a sense of humour.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 2, 2021 6:35 am

You are probably correct. People here are fascinated about the volcano in the Canaries, it is on telly in all the restaurants. When did it become essential to have tellys blaring in even high-end establishments? If I want to eat in front of the telly I will stay at home in my jammies and be comfortable.

Richard Page
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 2, 2021 10:54 am

“Reckless actions of their elders….” My arse. What their elders did was campaign and fight for a cleaner, better and safer world – they achieved some of what they wanted but brought up the younger generations on that idea of campaigning and fighting for something. Unfortunately these idiots don’t have a clue what issues are left to fight for and are just flailing around blindly in a frenzy of destruction, undoing a lot of what has already been achieved and bugger all else.

Presumably our elders had a very similar complaint about our generation and theirs before that. Hey ho, the world is likely to continue even if these idiots manage to kill each other off!

High Treason
October 2, 2021 2:08 am

Boris will make a very poor father-he is capitulating to other people’s kiddie tantrums. As for Greta, she has turned 18, so her tantrums should no longer be acceptable.
Why would anyone, let alone the leader of a nation that used to be the most powerful nation on the planet be capitulating to someone who is clearly parroting brainwashing?

October 2, 2021 2:15 am

Failing crops? Where? Boris is an embarrassment because he is scientifically illiterate.

He stated a few months ago that he was assured we’d all be flying on electric passenger aircraft within a couple of years.

He’s desperate to be liked and agrees with everything said by the last person he met. He’s all over the place.

Once upon a time he was sceptical of climate change and the green blob, but he’s whole-heartedly swallowed the cool aid. Most likely due to Princess Nut Nut (his latest wife).

Meanwhile energy bills are going through the roof and this winter people will die because of it.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Rusty
October 2, 2021 4:49 am

And the UK’s MSM will not report why the old, the poor and the sick are going to suffer. Scum.


Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Julian Flood
October 2, 2021 2:02 pm

They’ll blame it on covid, wait and see.

El Duchy
October 2, 2021 3:40 am

I have lost all respect Boris. The few things he gets right cannot make up for his buying the green lies. Imagine the Prime Minister of Britain heeding the advice of an 18-year-old that has done nothing with her life but whine about things she doesn’t understand and a wife that has no experience in farming, industry or energy. The man has become the court jester he resembles.

October 2, 2021 3:40 am

“… daily challenges that lead to lost opportunity. And your future is literally being stolen before your eyes.”

Yes, their future is being stolen from before their eyes, but it has nothing to do with the weather. It is the “climate action” they are all screaming about which will bring lost opportunity destroy their future. They have been so thoroughly brain washed that not only will they accept it, they will demand it.

October 2, 2021 3:49 am

Her ranting illustrates that, thankfully, very little is being done. it’s just same old , same old. Who remembers the 13 year old, Severn Suzuki , spewing the same old nonsense back in 1992- at the Rio climate conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJJGuIZVfLM

October 2, 2021 3:55 am

“Greta Thunberg mocks world leaders in ‘blah, blah, blah’ speech – BBC News ” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwD1kG4PI0w 250,000 views- nobody is interested.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  richard
October 2, 2021 9:33 am

I’ve seen six or eight “blah,blah,blah” headlines regarding Greta over the last few days, too. The propagandists are hard at work.

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 2, 2021 10:58 am

Well I did notice the headlines – looks like much of the shine has worn off the little darling now. Presumably, sometime soon, she’ll have to try to get a real job – that’ll be funny to watch (from a distance).

M Courtney
Reply to  Richard Page
October 2, 2021 12:30 pm

She can get on a Green Party MEP list and will walk into Parliament.
The electoral system guarantees that the people at the top of the Party list get elected for as long as they want to be in power.

Richard Page
Reply to  M Courtney
October 2, 2021 2:52 pm

The Swedish Green party was one of the strongest in Europe, they are now in disarray and haemorrhaging support and votes. Greta won’t go near them after they had a falling out over her ‘Fridays for Future’ movement so might not be any joy there. If she’s smart, she’ll wait until her followers are over voting age then convert her movement into a political party. God help Sweden if she does get any real power though!

October 2, 2021 3:56 am

Time to drop Greta off in Kabul so she can find her a husband who can give her life some meaning and direction. She already hates herself, she should fit right in to shari’a.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  2hotel9
October 2, 2021 9:35 am

Poor Afghanistan. Our “leader” threw millions of innocent people to the wolves without a second thought. Biden is the one who should go take up residence in Afghanistan.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 2, 2021 10:02 am

These leftist idiots in western governments are the only disaster young people should be angry about. Sadly leftist ideological indoctrination has destroyed the ability to think rationally in millions of them. And the leftists’ courting of fundamentalist islamic nutjobs, yeah, young people should be furious about both and yet they are so dimly aware of reality they’ll not see it till way too late.

Richard Page
Reply to  2hotel9
October 2, 2021 11:00 am

That’s true. On a plus note though – if things carry on as they are, Greta’s Taliban husband-to-be will come to her!

Reply to  Richard Page
October 3, 2021 5:24 am

Naw, far better pickings in her country, she would be WAY down the roster of eligibles. In Kabul she would stand out. At least until she was put into chador.

October 2, 2021 4:20 am

She is right about one thing: young peoples’ futures are being stolen.

But that is because of the insane level of debt they will have, made ten times worse by carbon zero. Not because the weather might get slightly worse.

Julian Flood
October 2, 2021 5:01 am

“As the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, in the eyes of deep greens, Britain more than anywhere is irredeemably guilty of climate sin.”

But how to signal to the world our awareness of sin, our guilt, our contrition? I have a post up at Independence Daily about one possible solution, using the adiabatic lapse rate to relieve all ambulant people on the planet from the effects of global warming right up to 2038.

Spread the word, brothers and sisters. Fashion footwear can save the world!


Julian Flood
October 2, 2021 5:09 am

htt etc independencedaily. co. uk slash footwear-fashion-can-save-the-world slash

Moderation wouldn’t permit the link.


October 2, 2021 6:06 am

If I could meet Greta, I would tell her that man made CO2 is causing cancer….and and…is causing the moon to collide with earth…and and….causing the sun to go super nova….would she believe it?

Richard Page
Reply to  Anti-griff
October 2, 2021 11:01 am

She probably would believe it, but do you really want to give her ideas?

October 2, 2021 6:39 am

Doubtful Greta speaks for all the young and probably not most. But any excuse will do for weak politicians devoid of reason.

Richard Page
Reply to  Olen
October 2, 2021 11:02 am

She doesn’t even speak for all those children wanting to bunk off school for a day each week.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Olen
October 2, 2021 12:09 pm

But it is fun to skip school regularly. I did it alot in high school, especially in the springtime.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 3, 2021 7:06 am

I skipped a lot, too, but it didn’t have anything to do with politics. School was pretty boring for me. I would skip school and go to the public library where I could look at things that really interested me.

Tom Abbott
October 2, 2021 7:19 am

From the article: “Hundreds of millions of you are facing rising seas, failing crops, burning forests, and evermore ferocious storms, daily challenges that lead to lost opportunity. And your future is literally being stolen before your eyes.”

This is a totally delusional statement.

M Courtney
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 2, 2021 12:33 pm

Or just dishonest.
He is a known liar. Twice sacked for it so far.
Here’s hoping for the hat-trick.

October 2, 2021 7:40 am

If by failing crops you mean record harvests then Boris is spot on!

Gordon A, Dressler
October 2, 2021 7:53 am

From the above article’s quotes according to the BBC:
“Speaking here today, several senior politicians conceded that Ms Thunberg was essentially correct in her analysis.”

An “analysis” which was never presented for examination and which the BBC and other MSM outlets have parroted as if it was something more than the blabbering of a still-adolescent young woman.

Thomas Gasloli
October 2, 2021 8:23 am

“Draghi, who said politicians need to be “whipped into action…””

Well, politicians probably need to be whipped, but not into action on “climate change”.

October 2, 2021 8:37 am

Has Bojo brushed his hair?

October 2, 2021 8:42 am

Just a useful idiot agreeing with another one.

October 2, 2021 9:31 am


Richard Page
Reply to  letmepicyou
October 2, 2021 11:11 am

I fear you may have misread an earlier article that referred to her transatlantic journey by boat. You may need to go back and work out which bit of that word you got wrong.

Reply to  Richard Page
October 2, 2021 11:20 am

I did no such thing.
This is a TRANNY.
You need to LOOK HARDER.
Stop seeing ONLY what your mind WANTS to see.

M Courtney
Reply to  letmepicyou
October 2, 2021 12:36 pm

I often find her to be very rude but you sir are beyond the pale.
This is no way to talk about anyone,

Reply to  M Courtney
October 2, 2021 12:42 pm

You mean…truthfully?

Reply to  M Courtney
October 2, 2021 12:47 pm

I certainly don’t support name calling but if being gender fluid is OK then what’s wrong with that statement? Is it OK for people to demand recognition for their sexual identity then call others out when they do? Maybe her birth name was Gregory 🙂 She (?….my choice) looks/acts/talks androgynous BTW.

Reply to  markl
October 2, 2021 1:10 pm

I have a dangerously low tolerance for androgyny. Either way, Gretta is 100% a boy.

M Courtney
Reply to  markl
October 2, 2021 3:41 pm

Because she does not identify that way.
Who knows more about you? You or some anonymous bully online?

Is there nothing wrong with saying that markl identifies as a furry? Of course there is.

I have no way of knowing if you dress as a ferret on the weekend. II’s just an insulting lie.
Because she does not identify that way.
Who knows more about you? You or some anonymous bully online?

Is there nothing wrong with saying that markl identifies as a furry? Of course there is.

I have no way of knowing if you dress as a ferret on the weekend. It’s just an insulting lie.

Reply to  letmepicyou
October 2, 2021 12:42 pm

The Sayanim tranny squad must have heard about my truthful comment regarding Gretta being a BOY…

Richard Page
Reply to  letmepicyou
October 2, 2021 3:02 pm

That is so wrong on so many different levels that I simply don’t know where to begin. The comments are not enabling any sort of view, they are simply calling out your comments which appear to be insulting, derogatory, ignorant and unpleasant all at the same time.

Reply to  Richard Page
October 2, 2021 3:37 pm

Yeah sorry but not sorry if I don’t appreciate people who stand on a world stage from the standpoint of DECEPTION. And, oh, up yours.

Dave Fair
October 2, 2021 10:49 am

“Hundreds of millions of you are facing rising seas, failing crops, burning forests, and evermore ferocious storms, daily challenges that lead to lost opportunity. And your future is literally being stolen before your eyes.”

There is really only two reasons for a head of state to lie in saying something like that: 1) He is trying to placate the loonies in his party. 2) He is bat-shit crazy.

Well, in either case he is bat-shit crazy to lie like that. He must have advisors that know the bald statements are lies. The UN IPCC CliSciFi reports tell us so.

October 2, 2021 11:34 am

I wonder if Boris Johnson is capable of learning?

M Courtney
Reply to  Jim
October 2, 2021 12:34 pm

He went to Eton so that was probably trained out of him,.

October 2, 2021 1:24 pm

World leaders have competed on who could demolish power stations fastest.

Then they are astonished that the energy market is also demolished.

Boris has the Medusa touch, everything he gets involved in goes wrong. H

Richard Page
Reply to  Jphn
October 2, 2021 3:07 pm

Isn’t the Medusa touch when everything turns to stone? When everything goes wrong it is the ‘Murphy’ touch, or ‘Finagle’ touch perhaps?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
October 3, 2021 7:12 am

It’s the radical leftwing touch. They ruin everything they touch.

October 2, 2021 6:43 pm

Ah, St Greta, what is depriving you of your ‘future’ is your decision to ignore an education in favour of radical, partisan political activism. And even those who DID bother with schooling have gone on to deeply relevant subjects as gender studies and other useless and unemployable subjects.

Perhaps if you’d learned some arithmetic or logic you might have been able to add and subtract temperatures and data showing how wrong you are.

You might also have been able to contribute something to the debate instead of just lashing out like a spoilt brat because real people don’t give a toss about you and your juvenile opinions.

Go back to school, learn some things about the world around you where children are not protected from everything then abused by adults who use them as figureheads. That course never ends well for the children.

October 2, 2021 7:05 pm

Why do we credit anything that child says.

John the Econ
October 2, 2021 8:27 pm

Grown men, supposed world leaders no less, cowering to a teenage high school dropout. Embarrassing. Or at least it should be.

Matthew Sykes
October 4, 2021 10:08 am

He has lost the plot, and my vote. Global crop yields failing! What a cretin!


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