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AAS Climate Warning: “Delay is as Dangerous as Denial”

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to the Australian Academy of Science, soon every year will be a fire season like 2020. My question:- if the forests all burn down, surely we would run out of flammable woodlands?

‘Delay is as dangerous as denial’: scientists urge Australia to reach net zero emissions faster

Heatwaves to double and many properties will be uninsurable if global heating reaches 3C, Australian Academy of Science says

Lisa Cox
Wed 31 Mar 2021 03.30 AEDT

Global heating of 3C would more than double the number of annual heatwaves in some parts of Australia, leave properties uninsurable due to flood and fire risk, and make many of the country’s ecosystems “unrecognisable”, according to Australia’s leading scientists.

The Australian Academy of Science is calling on the Morrison government to accelerate the country’s transition to net zero greenhouse gas emissions in a report that examines what Australia could look like in a 3C world.

The analysis paints a grim picture in which heatwaves in states such as Queensland would occur seven times a year and last for 16 days at a time, and unprecedented fire seasons such as the 2019-20 fire disaster become a regular occurrence.

Prof Lesley Hughes, an ecologist and pro vice-chancellor at Macquarie University, said there were steps the Morrison government could take immediately to encourage the uptake of electric vehicles, rather than inhibit it.

“Delay is as dangerous as denial,” she said.

“The main message we would have for the federal government is that what we do, as well as the rest of the world, in the next decade … that’s the critical thing.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/31/delay-is-as-dangerous-as-denial-scientists-urge-australia-to-reach-net-zero-emissions-faster

The Australian People’s Republic of Victoria has developed a solution.

A week ago Victoria celebrated the construction of a green hydrogen plan, which uses brown coal and steam reforming to produce green hydrogen.

Of course, the “green” part is a little theoretical, for now. All the CO2 produced by burning the coal is released into the air, which has led to criticism that the green hydrogen plant is actually very carbon intensive. But supporters claim the plant will be retrofitted with carbon capture as soon as the time is right.

If Australia increases coal exports, so everyone can copy the Victoria’s green hydrogen success, coal burning green hydrogen plants all over the world will be ready to be retrofitted with carbon capture systems, when the time is right.

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Spetzer86
March 31, 2021 10:12 am

By Carbon Capture being introduced when the time is right, I suppose that means when somebody figures out how to do that without tanking the overall energy output of the system? (which means never)

Reply to  Spetzer86
March 31, 2021 10:17 am

They have it all wrong. We don’t want to capture CO2, we want to release more into the atmosphere, because it is improving the climate. CO2 is food for plants and thus for us. CO2 is good and we should celebrate that.

n.n
Reply to  John Shewchuk
March 31, 2021 4:45 pm

A Green blight with intermittent/renewable energy is profitable on a forward-looking basis. A green Earth opens spaces for demos-cracy to spread.

Reply to  Spetzer86
March 31, 2021 10:55 am

Yeah, what a farce. Make “green” hydrogen and release CO2, the second most important GHG, in the process. Then burn the hydrogen and create/release H2O, the most important GHG, a two-fer of stupidity after wasting much of the energy put into the process.

Reply to  BobM
March 31, 2021 12:36 pm

What farce? The clown show is making money and they don’t even have to wear clown suits.

n.n
Reply to  philincalifornia
March 31, 2021 4:47 pm

Laundered, socially inoculated, redistributive greenbacks and Green blight. A presumptive political mandate to generate intermittent/renewable energy.

ResourceGuy
March 31, 2021 10:19 am

Simon says “Jump off the cliff–now!”

Latitude
March 31, 2021 10:22 am

how do you know it’s a con job?

…when they blame you….and ignore china

Mr.
Reply to  Latitude
March 31, 2021 1:23 pm

Yep.
Australia with it’s 1.4% of world emissions is obviously the critical factor in stopping the climate(s) from changing.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mr.
April 2, 2021 4:59 am

Australia must stop producing CO2 NOW! Otherwise, the whole world is doomed!

I suppose the proponents of such stupidty don’t realize just how crazy their proposals sound to sane people. That would make sense because the alarmists are insane.

I’m sure glad I don’t live in the delusional world of the Left and the climate change fanatics. The True Believers in these groups must live in a very scary world inside their heads. A make-believe world, but very scary to the delusional.

Vuk
March 31, 2021 10:23 am

Most of carbon capture in the UK has been on hold for about 5 months now, with few days of sunshine and warm weather this years carbon capture is about to start revving-up.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Vuk
March 31, 2021 10:42 am

Vuk,
I intend to do my part by capturing as much CO2 as possible in my tomato and jalapeño plants this summer! Last year I put a bunch of ripe, red jalapeños in the smoker with a brisket, so this year I have to double or triple my pepper production and get a bigger smoker!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ResourceGuy
April 2, 2021 5:06 am

That’s because the Chinese aren’t stupid.

March 31, 2021 10:39 am

None of the Greenies have an idea about the dammage caused by carbonreducing or capture or what else BS.
“BUT WE DO ST !!!”
Why and what ?

Abolition Man
March 31, 2021 10:49 am

Eric,
Yet another example of the madness of crowds!
That they have the audacity to call the hydrogen “green” shows utter disregard for truth and science!
I’m reminded of the US general in Vietnam who said, “We had to destroy the village to save the village!”
The Vietnamization of the environment continues apace!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Abolition Man
April 2, 2021 5:09 am

“I’m reminded of the US general in Vietnam who said, “We had to destroy the village to save the village!””

Got a quote?

You know there was a lot of disinformation put out about the Vietnam war by the anti-war, Leftwing Media over the years. Don’t believe everything you read because the Left treated the Vietnam war like they treated Trump: All lies, all the time.

Gyan1
March 31, 2021 10:52 am

“Delay is as dangerous as denial,” she said.”

True, neither have any danger associated with them.

Reply to  Gyan1
March 31, 2021 12:38 pm

You beat me to it ……

Andrew Burnette
March 31, 2021 11:00 am

If they are correct, then isn’t timing pretty important here? Once they figure out what actually starts fires (mostly humans) and what keeps them going (mostly bad forest management), they could address those issues and actually make a difference within the next century.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Andrew Burnette
April 2, 2021 5:18 am

So it looks like the main thing to address for Australian wildfire issues is human behavior. The climate being a minor factor, which just sets the stage for bad and/or stupid human behavior.

March 31, 2021 11:16 am

The best thing that could happen to Ozzie forests is annual patch burning: deliberate, anthropogenic, pre-planned, prepared for, expertly applied, historically respectful, smart. No more than a 20 year return interval on 90% of all acres. Waiting for Godot to do it is Theater of the Absurd.

Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
March 31, 2021 11:39 am

While people may make forests burn faster — CO2 makes forests grow faster.

Waza
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
March 31, 2021 2:10 pm

Mike
You are correct.
The vast majority of municipalities and state authorities susceptible to bush fire have plans to do what you say, however they are nearly all infected with a green cancer which doesn’t allow them to carry out theses plans.

Lrp
Reply to  Waza
April 1, 2021 10:41 am

Where I live, councillors of all persuasions are green; they all want to save the planet

March 31, 2021 11:17 am

According to the Australian Academy of Science, soon every year will be a fire season like 2020. My question:- if the forests all burn down, surely we would run out of flammable woodlands?

Their implementation of the movie “Groundhog Day.”

Kpar
March 31, 2021 11:30 am

“Delay is as dangerous as denial…”

Does that mean it is now time to panic?

Reply to  Kpar
March 31, 2021 11:41 am

No need to panic. John Kerry has everything under control …
https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/R8l9API

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  John Shewchuk
March 31, 2021 6:18 pm

That’s pretty funny.

leitmotif
Reply to  Kpar
March 31, 2021 12:37 pm

Not until it is as dangerous as the soft cushions.

Notanacademic
March 31, 2021 11:37 am

It’s worse now than it was when we thought it was worse than we thought!

Art
March 31, 2021 11:53 am

“For forty years and more people have been shouting from the rooftops about the imminent “CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!!”

In that regard, consider the following:

e·mer·gen·cy
əˈmərjənsē
noun
1. a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.

Call me crazy, but anything that has given absolutely no signs of showing up after forty years of endless warnings is not an “unexpected situation requiring immediate action”.”

– Willis Eschenbach

Reply to  Art
March 31, 2021 5:28 pm

Words have meanings.

A year ago when the word ‘pandemic’ was being pushed by the mess (sic) media, my wife pulled the Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary from the shelf – “Their use of the word doesn’t match the definition.”

But it sure did sound good and scary…

Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
April 1, 2021 10:13 am

And those who control the words and their meanings control the conversation. For example: go look up “facism” online and see what it says. Then find an old dictionary and see what IT says.

March 31, 2021 12:19 pm

Climate Liars have to continue and expand their lies….

Reply to  DMacKenzie
March 31, 2021 12:41 pm

I think the Climate Liars have run out of lie expansion. It’s the same old (yawn) lies, just phrased a bit differently.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  philincalifornia
April 2, 2021 5:26 am

I think the Climate Liars are running out of gas. About all they can do now is find some severe weather somewhere and claim they see CO2 in it. They scream “unprecedented” when there is no unprecedented.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 2, 2021 6:53 am

Here in the SE US, we’re currently experiencing a wide scale deep freeze bringing record lows, so obviously it’s due to CO2 and runaway warming.

jdgalt1
Reply to  philincalifornia
April 3, 2021 7:35 pm

They just have to get more creative. That’s why they’re making up medical emergencies, insurrections, and “white supremacy.”

Mickey Reno
March 31, 2021 12:26 pm

More pie-in-the-sky crap invented by walking-talking carbon pollution.

clipe
March 31, 2021 12:28 pm

More worryingly, they raged about how climate catastrophes are so terrible that we should not allow any more climate debate. Yet, their claims were almost uniformly untrue. They said that “much of the Australian continent” had been devoured in climate-induced fire. But we know from satellite measurements, published in Nature, that while the fires near population centres had severe impacts, the total land area burned was 4 per cent – one of the lowest-ever percentages, from an average this century of 6.2 per cent and last century of 10.1 per cent. Four per cent is not “much of the Australian continent”. Such claims are more like rantings from people who have been watching too much alarmist TV.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/03/31/lomborg-vs-climate-cult/

Craig from Oz
Reply to  clipe
March 31, 2021 6:54 pm

And the only reason it was as high as 4% was the amount of fuel load that was allowed to build up.

I was on Kangaroo Is (South Aust) about 6 months after the fires last year. The headlines were all about how “Half the Island” was on fire and how they were lucky to save some towns.

I say they were lucky as well. There was about 3m high blocks of solid brush still uncleared within 5m of one of the houses in that town. Yes it had been cut back to some imaginary line, but beyond that line it was clearly not their responsibility.

You want to know who really causes bushfires? Greenies with their obsession on ‘protecting’ the unspoiled landscape.

jdgalt1
Reply to  Craig from Oz
April 3, 2021 7:39 pm

They’re one part of the picture. But what makes it much worse is that residents love to build towns in the middle of forests and keep as much of the forest in place as possible, meaning no fire breaks around the houses and no possibility of enacting sensible “let the small forest fires burn unhindered” policies. Californians are not going to break this habit unless politicians become undemocratic enough to make them do it (or at least stand aside as the insurance companies make them do it). Well, neither are Australians.

March 31, 2021 12:29 pm

“Global heating of 3C would more than double the number of annual heatwaves ….. “.
If they are “annual” they happen every year. How can you double the number if they happen every year anyway?

Maybe they mean that this increase would more than double the number of heatwaves every year, which is a different thing altogether.

Sloppy writing usually = sloppy thinking.

Reply to  Oldseadog
March 31, 2021 12:42 pm

= sloppy target audience

Waza
Reply to  Oldseadog
March 31, 2021 2:50 pm

The politician ask the the climate scientist “what’s the definition of a heatwave?”
The climate scientist replied “ what ever you want it to be “

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Oldseadog
March 31, 2021 6:58 pm

Considering a heatwave is a period where the temperature deviates from the normal – you can have heatwaves in the Antarctic and still be 30degrees or more below freezing – I might be tempted to say that 3C heating may actually smooth the line and REDUCE heatwaves.

For accidemics they do seem to use a lot of words that they don’t fully understand.

lee
Reply to  Oldseadog
March 31, 2021 7:54 pm

But these increasing annual heatwaves will make it impossible to get flood insurance. “leave properties uninsurable due to flood and fire risk”

jdgalt1
Reply to  lee
April 3, 2021 7:44 pm

Is there anywhere left in the world that has flood insurance, which still lets underwriters and not politicians determine who gets it and how much it costs?

lee
Reply to  Oldseadog
April 1, 2021 1:23 am

The 3C is based on RCP 8.5.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  lee
April 2, 2021 5:38 am

Reality is closer to 1.5C or below going by the latest estimates.

And of course, Dr. Happer says CO2 is just about saturated at current ppm levels, so CO2 is just about done raising temperatures, even if CO2 levels go higher.

In other words, Dr. Happer says there is an upper limit to how much warmth CO2 can add to our atmosphere, and we are just about at that point today.

If that’s the case, then we can forget about trying to reign in CO2. And we can start revising the history that depends on CO2 for the temperature changes seen. Temperatures went higher in the past without the help of CO2, if Dr. Happer is correct.

And then there is Dr. Moller saying CO2 might result in net cooling of the atmosphere.

What to believe! What to believe!

One of these days we will get it all nailed down tight. One of these days.

Bruce Cobb
March 31, 2021 12:34 pm

While we’re making equivalencies; Climate Alarmism is as dangerous as Nazism was.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 31, 2021 12:51 pm

Bruce,
They may well be more dangerous! They cloak themselves in the protection of their Utopian ideals and cultlike religious beliefs, while attacking the very foundations of human civilization for the last few millennia; the family, the church and the pursuit of knowledge and excellence!
Given a free rein, they could easily outdo the excesses of the Maoist slave state; many alarmists happily state their aims to do so!

Reply to  Abolition Man
March 31, 2021 12:59 pm

Shows what a bunch of loonies they are. They think they could turn American youths, who have way more ammo than them, into Hitler Youth 2.0.

….. and we already have had a preview of which side ….. well do I need to go on?

Chris Hanley
March 31, 2021 1:17 pm

“… supporters claim the plant will be retrofitted with carbon capture as soon as the time is right …”.
So can new coal-fired generating plant for that matter.

March 31, 2021 1:18 pm

Hurry up and get the legislation for Zero Carbon in place, before the upcoming cooling period renders all of the propaganda useless!

March 31, 2021 1:20 pm

Quote: “soon every year will be a fire season like 2020.”

Drinks for everyone! good news people. The historically low wildfires of 2020 will continue so say numbties whose predictions have all failed .. oh wait. Darn it.
https://mailchi.mp/lomborg/jbpl570n9d-623631?e=bcd216d9bf

March 31, 2021 1:27 pm

AAS es

John V. Wright
March 31, 2021 2:06 pm

There is no cure for stupid.

Old Retired Guy
Reply to  John V. Wright
March 31, 2021 6:19 pm

You know how stupid the average person is? Well, half of them are more stupid than that. May be a George Carlin quote.

Curious George
March 31, 2021 2:11 pm

A horse is dangerous from the front, a donkey from the rear, an idiot from all sides.

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