China nixes Antony Blinken climate appeal over Uighur genocide claims

From The New York Post

WASHINGTON — China’s Communist government smacked-down Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s appeals to work together on climate change after he said he agreed that the Chinese government’s treatment of Uighur Muslims amounted to “genocide.” 

In a new statement released on Twitter, China’s foreign ministry accused Blinken of “interfering in its domestic affairs and undermining its interests” after he backed predecessor Mike Pompeo’s declaration that it had launched “a systematic attempt to destroy Uyghurs.”

“China is willing to work with the US on climate change. But such cooperation cannot stand unaffected by the overall China-US relations,” the statement read.

“It is impossible to ask for China’s support in global affairs while interfering in its domestic affairs and undermining its interests,” it added.

At his first press conference as Biden’s secretary of state on Wednesday, Blinken was asked by a Chinese journalist how the US would work with China with the genocide designation hanging over the relationship.

Blinken danced around the issue and said the US was able to compartmentalize difference issues with the Communist nation, which he described as “the most important relationship we have,” and called on them to step up alongside America to confront climate change.

“It’s not a secret that the relationship between the United States and China is arguably the most important relationship that we have in the world going forward,” Blinken said, adding it had increasingly “adversarial aspects.”

He said that the countries could still work together on “mutual interests” like the environment, despite their enormous ideological differences.

Read the full article here.

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Ron Long
January 31, 2021 6:10 am

Blinkin is going to get a call from Joe saying to throw the Uyghers under the bus and shut the hell up. China is “the most important relationship in the world going forward” says it all. Joe is going to surrender because of what the CCP has on him and family. China is the world’s worst polluter, and I don’t mean only CO2, and Joe will not confront them, nor will any of the CAGW crowd. Elections have consequences.

Scissor
Reply to  Ron Long
January 31, 2021 7:18 am

I’m most concerned about the U.S. government adopting more Chinese tactics of propaganda, censorship and military/police state control of our population.

Joe may throw the rest of us under the bus after the Uyghurs are thoroughly crushed.

Reply to  Scissor
February 1, 2021 3:36 am

Don’t you mean, China is adopting AMerican tactics? Well, not American, but those who tell America what to say… THEIR tactics, …you know…”By means of subterfuge we make war” and all that?
After all, if we believe Them, China was just a bunch of backwards tribes afraid of sunset a hundred years ago, when the Great America was ordered to go burn Europe down the first time. As a matter of fact, they built their first factories only AFTER America burned down Europe the second time, no?

Bryan A
Reply to  Ron Long
January 31, 2021 9:05 am

We’ve heard from Blinkin, what do Winkin and Nod have to say?

Greg
Reply to  Bryan A
January 31, 2021 10:59 am

blinkin eejut.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Bryan A
January 31, 2021 2:32 pm

Sleepy Joe is Nod. And, John F Kerry (Slogan: He is no JFK) is clearly Winkin.

DonM
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
February 1, 2021 10:06 am

Wynkin & Blynkin are two little eyes and Nod is a sleepy head, so you got the sleepy joe part right.

I don’t know yet who is providing Nod with the bleary visions.

n.n
Reply to  Ron Long
January 31, 2021 11:03 am

The Chinese spend billions annually to influence our elections. They should get a return on their investments. The Green New Deal would not be a plausible policy without labor and environmental arbitrage in China etc.

Reply to  n.n
January 31, 2021 1:04 pm

Without the virus, Trump would have in a landslide, and captured the House too.

Andre Thomas Lewis
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
January 31, 2021 4:09 pm

Even with the virus impact he still won in a landslide – until 4 am the day after the election when the secret vote counting started.

commieBob
January 31, 2021 6:14 am

Anyone who doubts China is willing to play hard ball hasn’t been paying attention very well. I’m very disappointed. The land which has given us some of the greatest wisdom in the history of humanity hosts a regime that acts like a loser back street thug.

griff
Reply to  commieBob
January 31, 2021 6:23 am

The USA acted much the same to smaller nations in the 50s and 60s. Just ask S Americans…

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 8:07 am

No Griff
The proper analogy is the natives, and we all now know that their treatment was wrong.

Is there nothing you cannot get wrong?

commieBob
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
January 31, 2021 12:26 pm

We have to be the only civilization in the history of humanity to think it immoral for one society to conquer another and take its land. On the other hand, the Trail of Tears was a tragedy for those involved.

The British/Canadians had a more humane attitude to the Indians and for that reason the Indians were a major reason why the Americans got their asses kicked out of Canada in 1812.

So, are the Canadian Indians better off than the American Indians today?

My ancestors were kicked out of what is now Germany by the French some time around 1700. They ended up in what is now America. Should I hop on a boat and give my share of North America back to the Indians? Should the French pay reparations to buy me a small farm somewhere near Mannheim?

We can’t, and shouldn’t, unwind history. Trying to do so usually ends badly.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 9:00 am

So the fact that the US once threw it’s weight around in the past, justifies China doing the same today?
If that’s going to be the standard, then the US’s actions can be excused because of the British Empire.

Greg
Reply to  MarkW
January 31, 2021 11:00 am

No, it just means USA is poorly placed to make comments and pretend moral outrage.

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MarkW
Reply to  Greg
January 31, 2021 11:05 am

Really? Your position is that only countries who have been perfect, going back to the beginning of time, are permitted to point out that other countries aren’t perfect?

Lrp
Reply to  Greg
January 31, 2021 12:22 pm

Revisionism forever! No one has any moral right because everyone has done wrong to someone.

commieBob
Reply to  Greg
January 31, 2021 12:54 pm

The US had a civil war to end slavery. It was a huge price to pay in blood and treasure for a moral stance. I would say that fighting for justice is in the American blood right along side with Manifest Destiny.

On the other hand, China has learned from its long history. The Uyghurs promise to be a big problem. As far as I can tell, the only moral solution is to let them secede. Should China allow itself to be broken up piecemeal? America didn’t.

Is the US only pretending moral outrage? Your statement is facile.

commieBob
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 9:03 am

Hmmm. Gotta think about that.

Yes, the Banana Republics were a thing. It seems to me that the American’s didn’t use brute force so much as just take advantage of the endemic corruption in those countries. The local populations were sold down the road by their own dictators.

Lrp
Reply to  commieBob
January 31, 2021 12:27 pm

There was no possible winning scenario back then; marxists were funded and armed by Moscow in exchange for absolute influence in the affairs of their countries.

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 10:07 am

Strangely enough, the Colombians I know are only too grateful that the US helped their country crush FARC with the aid of Plan Colombia.

Ron Long
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 10:08 am

Well, griff, I have been all over central and south America, currently live in Argentina, and was in Chile right after the Pinochet led resistance saved the country from Cuba. The only real “action” of the USA was Operation Condor, which was a State Department plan (supported by some of the alphabet agencies) to keep communism out of the Americas. Some dictators figured out they could get rid of political adversaries by claiming they were “commies” and disappearing them, so there came to be 2 Operations Condor, one good, one not so much. You should travel through Latin America and see what positive impact the North Americans have had. Sadly, China is now making a move in Latin America, and they do not play by the rules.

Lrp
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 12:20 pm

Spoken like a true communist party member.

Observer
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 1:37 pm

You don’t even need to go that far back. Look at its behaviour in the last decade in the middle east.

I have no love for the Chinese government – and no, they’re no longer communist, allowing private ownership of the means of production makes them fascist – but the idea that the US government is entitled to lecture anyone on morality is laughable.

DonM
Reply to  Observer
February 1, 2021 10:35 am

It’s got nothing to do with morality.

It’s political, and public relations, and useful idiots, and the abused.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 1:50 pm

“Daddy? What is a non sequitur argument?”
“Well slightly concerning small child I have never met before, non sequitur is from the Latin for ‘Does not follow’. In conversation it is where the subject changes so completely that there is absolutely no link to the previous statements. It is often used in debates to avoid having to actually discuss the original issue.”
“Oh… can you give me a real world example?”
“Sure. wattsupwiththat.com Control F. Griff.”
.
.
.
“I said ONE real world example!”

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 2:33 pm

Griff: What are you a Chinese Bot or a blithering fool?

MarkW
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
January 31, 2021 6:30 pm

Embrace the power of and.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
January 31, 2021 3:39 pm

Maduro, Cubans, and their allies will be gad to know.

Richard Page
Reply to  commieBob
January 31, 2021 6:24 am

I would agree with what you have put except for the last part – China appears to be on a bit of a winning streak atm. I hope it doesn’t last but with a pro-China populist movement around the world it’s difficult to fight it.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Richard Page
January 31, 2021 10:36 am

I think your statement agrees with Bob?
Not sure if your objection

Richard Page
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
January 31, 2021 2:40 pm

Sorry, half sarc. It was the ‘loser’ back street thug comment I was referring to, otherwise I agree with him.

john
January 31, 2021 6:22 am

OT but… Florida death certificate review raises questions about official number of COVID-19 deaths

https://rationalground.com/florida-death-certificate-review-raises-questions-about-official-number-of-covid-19-deaths/

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Craig from Oz
Reply to  john
January 31, 2021 1:53 pm

Raises questions? Not completely.

Raised questions that were completely ignored by the MSM despite the CDC stating exactly the same thing? Yup

January 31, 2021 6:26 am

THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS WORSE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE……according to ProPublica…. a left wing site about environment-racial justice-government. There is a story about a “climate” scientist who has gone completely to the dark side….even built an outdoor toilet in California….he attended Harvard at one point so that may have been his fatal mistake. It seems he was hiking and the temp hit 105 and completely freaked him out….he thinks we’re all gonna die…..amazing.

Charlie
Reply to  Anti_griff
January 31, 2021 8:23 am

Thanks. I sought that out and found it to be a fun read. Should any else wish to read it, it’s here:

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-climate-crisis-is-worse-than-you-can-imagine-heres-what-happens-if-you-try

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Charlie
January 31, 2021 9:36 am

I don’t see anything in the article about the typical temperature range in that area. If it’s not uncommon to get that hot- what’s he freaking out about? (the man in the story)

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 31, 2021 10:13 am

It hit 104F where I live in 1988. It’s hit 100F a few times since. But I survived, along with all my friends and family. I’m glad I don’t live in California. The heat seems to be worse at the same temperature.

Philo
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
January 31, 2021 3:53 pm

California really experiences temps up in the 100+ range during the summer months. Almost any spot west of the eastern border and theCascades can hit 110 at times. The Cascades run from roughly The Mojave desert north to along the eastern border. A few hundred miles south of the northern border the run into Mt Lassen The Cascades next to the northeast border up into Oregon. The Klamath mountains come in from Oregon northwest of Mt. Shasta and Mt. Eddy, The Northern coastal range runs to near San Francisco. The Southern Coastal range runs south from about San Jose to the Santa Monica Mountains north of Los Angeles.

Due to the many mountains and valleys the temperature can vary a lot over small distances, say 50 miles. That can get from the top of a snow-covered mountain to the bottom of a pleasant valley, or maybe even into Death Valley.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Philo
February 1, 2021 3:23 am

So that idiot stupidly didn’t prepare himself by planning ahead- as to what conditions might be out there- he gets too hot- then turns into a fanatic climatista!

fred250
Reply to  Charlie
January 31, 2021 7:35 pm

WOW, truly Mills and Boon at its least finest. !!

I genuinely wish these people all the misery that they choose to bring upon themselves.

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Richard Page
Reply to  Anti_griff
January 31, 2021 9:53 am

A man in the grip of a mental breakdown. He needs help and support from mental health professionals.

Joe
Reply to  Anti_griff
January 31, 2021 12:13 pm

I actually posted some messages on the author of the article, Liz Weil’s twitter account. I thought for sure she would block me but she didn’t. I then went over to the scientist’s ( Peter Klamus) twitter account who the article had profiled, and he had already blocked me. lol

https://twitter.com/lizweil/status/1353756804765769728

Coach Springer
January 31, 2021 6:34 am

Well, China is correct that there are things more important then climate change. Things diverge a bit after that, though.

MarkW
January 31, 2021 7:27 am

I’m sure the Democrats would be equally upset if other countries objected to them rounding up Republicans and sending them to re-education camps.

Joel O’Bryan
January 31, 2021 7:34 am

China is more than happy to play the Climate Scam game with the ignorant US baizou.
Baizou Blinken.
Baizou Binden.

Baizuo (/ ˈbaɪˌdzwɔː /, / baɪˈzwoʊ /; Chinese: 白左; pinyin: báizuǒ, Mandarin pronunciation: [pǎi.tswò], literally White Left) is a Chinese neologism and derigatory political epithet used to refer to Western leftist ideologies primarily espoused by white people. It is used as a sarcastic reference to those whose political opinions are perceived as being guided by emotions or a hypocritical show of selflessness and empathy.

alastair gray
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
January 31, 2021 7:42 am

I think Joe should have a petulant pique and throw his toys out the pram. I.e ditch all the green crap. I look forward to staging my Uighur solidarity demo in Glasgow in October- if it happens

Derg
January 31, 2021 7:39 am

Ask Richard Gere “Free Tibet” what it is like to go up against China.

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David Hartley
Reply to  Derg
January 31, 2021 3:21 pm

Ask the Tibetan people what the Dalai’s regime a like, and this is no moral dilemma excursion into the past the present Dalai was all about ready to take over. When talking about Climate it’s always about evidence with the watts up crowd but when it comes to International politics you’re all right there with the trailer park trash. I find the politics on this site quite disgusting at times.
Amputations, hobbling, yokes, slavery, the priests and princes sending out for human body parts for rituals (pursuant to many but not all of the amputations), human skull cups, skin suits made of the victims including children. Entertainment including throwing food to starving people and watching them fight the dogs for the scraps. Crushing poverty and the starvation of the masses the order of the day. It was, within living memory, one of the darkest most evil Mediaeval regimes in history.
Don’t believe me? Well take your own advice and check the facts for yourself.
The Dalai paid around $600K a year from the CIA? Check it yourself then gainsay me.
The imposition of the Shah and his disgusting Savak on Iraq because the nation wanted some/more of the revenues from their oil which BP (Anglo Iranian Oil}, did not like that at all so you assisted in bringing down a Democratically elected Government for that dictator.
All the other post WWII assassinations of Government officials and leaders all the wars and illegal invasions entered into by the US Government with estimations of casualties going North of 2 million at conservative estimates.
All in the name of freedom and Democracy now you seem to be finding out now the true face of your own system. All in the name of Freedom and Democracy and judging by the spectacle of this climate and Covid nonsense as well as the farcical manipulation of such that’s been happening in America since the chaff on voting punch cards that got Bush in against Hart {?} and we can all see with our own troubles with the notion of both, the idea of freedom and the manipulation of the Democratic system, we’ve all ended up with neither.
You’ve never ever been a force for any form of peace or true freedom in this World. Never was never will be your entire economy is dependent on a state of war.

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MarkW
Reply to  David Hartley
January 31, 2021 6:34 pm

Is there any nutcase conspiracy theory you haven’t bought into.

And as usual, the core seems to be a hatred of the US opposing international communism.

David Hartley
Reply to  MarkW
February 1, 2021 4:12 am

No, definitely bought the one about the false science behind the climate lies and the manipulation of data.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David Hartley
January 31, 2021 6:35 pm

David, you live in a very scary world. One conspiracy theory after another. How do you keep up with it all?

David Hartley
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 1, 2021 4:10 am

Why are they conspiracy theories it’s about what they were up to not the point of it. Nowhere have I said it’s because they were trying to do this or that. Have you checked any of it out before pontificating on my world. Check the Tibetan one Tom, it’s a shocker.

David Hartley
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 1, 2021 5:01 am

Her’s a video Tom. It has the Chinese State media’s imprint on it but it was all filmed before the Communist Party took over China so it is not staged.

https://youtu.be/NEghicZKEVI

MarkW
Reply to  David Hartley
February 1, 2021 7:33 am

There were no organ transplants prior to the time the Communists took over.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David Hartley
February 1, 2021 11:20 am

“You’ve never ever been a force for any form of peace or true freedom in this World. Never was never will be your entire economy is dependent on a state of war.”

This is the conspiracy theory I was referring to. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.

David Hoopman
January 31, 2021 7:39 am

This is a test and our performance will tell us whether we as a society are worthy of the air we breathe. The choices: Stand up for the position already taken to hold the CCP accountable for the oppression and no doubt planned extermination of a group of China’s own citizens; or turn a blind eye to all that in order to get the CCP to issue a press release saying it will help save the Earth by pledging (as it did in the Paris accord,) to do exactly what the hell it intended to do anyway. If we’re willing to sell out an entire ethnic minority for a phony baloney climate agreement (that will be instantly breached the moment it suits the CCP’s convenience,) then to Hell with us.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  David Hoopman
January 31, 2021 8:02 am

Well, the west is basically ok with consigning the 3rd world to energy poverty, subsistence existence and death for the “climate”.
Do we really think this will be any different?

Pat from kerbob
January 31, 2021 8:00 am

Doesn’t matter
They will continue to increase incineration of both coal and minorities

Dena
January 31, 2021 8:03 am

Biden is in China’s pocket and has been from when he was vice president. Hunter Biden made the arrangements and family still has access to the massive amounts of money that was funneled into Hunters investment firm. China will do a few things that Biden requests for show but in the end, China is going to get pretty much anything they want.
The link is an excellent telling of the story about how the Biden family has done well in it’s dealing with China and why we have much to fear over the next 4 years. It runs about 42 minutes and is a must see for anybody trying to understand the US policy with China.

https://www.blazetv.com/watch/channel/blazetv-specials/movie/SH9ntNaIfGvE-riding-the-dragon–the-bidens-chinese-secrets?t=0

markl
January 31, 2021 9:54 am

The sleeping dragon has awakened and won’t be denied its place as leader in the new world order. Think Genghis Khan with nuclear arms and without morals. To China the whole world consists of useful idiots.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  markl
January 31, 2021 6:37 pm

I hear China’s Christian community grows bigger every year.

Dave Fair
January 31, 2021 10:00 am

The irony … it burns! CliSci warriors insist the world can work together to achieve the green utopia. Reality intrudes.

George Daddis
January 31, 2021 10:04 am

I don’t understand how Biden thinks he has any leverage with China since he was BHO’s “point man” on the agreement to let them increase until 2030 and then consider leveling off or reducing.

Bruce Cobb
January 31, 2021 10:10 am

“China is willing to work with the US on climate change.”
Translation: China is willing to play the US for fools on “climate change”.
Willing? Heh. Anxious to is more like it. Heads they win, tails we lose.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 31, 2021 6:40 pm

“Work” does not quite describe the situation. China has to do nothing about carbon dioxide until 2030, and they they will think about maybe reducing CO2 then, but no guarantees. So China is not doing any work on climate change right now.

Pat from kerbob
January 31, 2021 10:30 am

And there is this

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Derg
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
January 31, 2021 11:31 am

I chuckled Pat but the reality is that cutting CO2 emissions would not stop climate change. I am trying to figure out a better way to fix this meme that allows China to continue improving their lives while getting the west to see that the benefits of CO2 are immense.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Derg
January 31, 2021 2:38 pm

I agree
The joke is that no one seems to want to tackle the worst offender assuming they really believe CO2 is an actual problem
Canada must self immolate but China is allowed to increase by 30times the amount we are supposed to decrease by 2030?

“So much stupid, so little time to mock it all”.

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Philo
Reply to  Derg
January 31, 2021 4:07 pm

Again the assumption here is serious climate change caused by CO2. That is an hypothesis, not remotely a fact. “Climate Change” is an ill-defined term that hasn’t been confirmed and probably never will. Hell, even the pooh-bahs can’t agree on what it means.
To me there appears to be plenty of evidence that changes to the local climate occur all over the world at various times and in various places. The current cold in northern Russia. The heat in the central pacific. Cold in northcentral Canada. Then there are the manmade changes in any area with more than 40-50 people within a 25 mile radius. The so-called heat island effect is a couple °C in those areas and more in cities. Cities have their own complete, unique climate compared to the lands around it.

Greg
January 31, 2021 10:58 am

mutual interests like climate: US trashes its own economy and China gets a free pass. Win-win for CCP. What’s not to like.

n.n
January 31, 2021 10:59 am

From The Great Leap (i.e. planned population) to one-child (i.e. minority choice) to selective-child (i.e. delegated choice) and concentration/re-education camps, the CCP is normalizing solutions along the same axis as their Western ideological counterparts.

Scissor
Reply to  n.n
January 31, 2021 11:22 am

The “Great Leap” was one of the biggest or perhaps the biggest mass murder campaign in world history.

Lrp
January 31, 2021 12:18 pm

Idiots like Blinken can’t make the difference between real matters and imaginary ones or between friends and enemies.

ResourceGuy
January 31, 2021 3:28 pm

Yep, the Neville Chamberlain team is on it.

Itdoesn't add up...
January 31, 2021 4:03 pm

A group of hunters came back to the village. They reported that they had seen a pride of lions that might threaten the village. They were not sure: they might slink off again into the savannah. But a young child started screaming that the village was going to be attacked and they were all going to die. Mganga, the witch doctor was impressed by this outpouring, and saw an opportunity to secure power for himself. He proposed a programme of sacrifices to ward off the lions to the chief, Muku. Those who heard the screams of the young child were sufficiently persuaded to agree.

At first it was just a few chickens, which those who celebrated feasted on. Then the witch doctor called for the sacrifice of the elderly, particularly those who through careful observation and hard work had built up a good understanding of the savannah, and how to reinforce the village stockade to guard against the lions. Unlike chickens, the bodies of the elderly were not to be feasted on, and instead they were dumped outside the village. That attracted the lions, and in turn the interest of the neighbouring village.

They sent a party to investigate, and established the presence of the lions. Returning to their chief Busara, they held a meeting and determined they should strengthen their stockade, and noted that Mganga the witch doctor was so much in control of the minds of the people that they were destroying their livestock and leaving their maize untended. Eventually Muku the chief of the besieged village decided to have a parley with Busara the chief of the well stockaded village. He called for the stockade to be dismantled so that the lions would threaten both villages equally. Chief Busara agreed he would do this, but first Muku must send his villagers out to fight off the lions…

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Itdoesn't add up...
January 31, 2021 7:18 pm

Meanwhile, Chief Boris Babungla invited a lioness into his village and indeed, his bed-chamber.

Once he realised he was going to be eaten and for fear of being thought foolish, he allowed the lioness (and her pride (haha)) to eat the whole entire village, first.

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ResourceGuy
January 31, 2021 4:43 pm

We will just have to come to an understanding on what we mean and what we really don’t mean. The locals won’t know the difference.

Josie
February 1, 2021 2:36 am

US will follow Europe in this regard. Let’s profit from Chinese consumerism and to hell with the Uyghers.

nw sage
February 1, 2021 7:10 pm

Is China still on twitter? I thought they would be removed by now?

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