Dr Fauci, Covid, weather, and climate

Reposted from CFACT

By Joe Bastardi |January 2nd, 2021|Economy

Recent admissions by Dr. Fauci on actions taken on Covid reveal what I suspected and actually wrote about here on CFACT with Covid-Climate linkage and is in my book. First of all, the hypocrisy of the media in blasting President Trump for not wanting to cause a panic, and then allowing for Dr Fauci to essentially do the same thing on masks, etc.( not cause a panic since he wanted health care workers to have them first) speaks volumes. Other recent admissions reveal that Dr Fauci is into a leftist tactic of trying to shape RELATIVE TRUTH vs ABSOLUTE TRUTH. That is an ends justify the means tactics, whether the means are factual or not. Or even just suspected, which is a far cry from fact.

This actually is something that the Opening Chapter of my Book goes right at, ( The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War) The real agenda, one leg of which is pitting the relative truth of man to manipulate people into fear, vs the absolute truth that is in the entire known geological record of the planet. Climate optimums from the past are now climate extremes today. So to combat extremes, we must take extreme action, and by doing so, a controlling non divine authority limits the free will that is the absolute truth that is written in our opening lines of our declaration. So here comes the linkage. Again the book contains 2 chapters foretelling of what you are seeing. I don’t mean to sound pompous, but this is predictable given the statements and the actions of the band of zealots that are driving this. And a nation willing to accept without question a ruling authority is a nation that will be ruled by authority.

Dr Fauci admits there were a lot of unknowns so for the greater good, he recommended actions that were not backed with proof, but instead were designed to create a response in the public. Its Mencken 101, “The Urge to Save Humanity is almost always a false front for the Urge to rule.”

I think Dr Fauci may be doing what he believes is best. (the very fact he is saying this tells me he is someone who is not on a power trip like he is being accused of, but instead is making decisions based on what he believes is good. But by doing that, he is causing harm to others, since it takes away their freedom) But others have hijacked the issue and used it as a political battering ram, to essentially push a fundamental transformation of our nation away from the very words of our founders. That he tends to hang out with those people (example the calling every night a Chris Cuomo when he had COVID, I wonder if he called President Trump every night when he had it? And btw how did President Trump get rid of it so fast given he is older and, to put it nicely, heftier than Chris Cuomo.) does not help the appearance of objectivity.

But now think about this. Suppose I believe a foot of snow was coming and I did not want you to travel because I feared for your life. In fact make it so I didn’t want any of my family or friends to travel out of the concern they could drive off the road and die. Am I allowed to take measures ( slit tires, pour sugar in the gas tank, etc) to make sure these people do not go anywhere. Afterall its for their own good. And what if it does not snow, do I simply say, I did it to save them? ( BTW, I know those things because that is what happened up here in a union fight with a local contractor that refused to unionize. They had to set bear traps around their property which stopped it very quickly). But there it is again, the means justify the ends argument that pits the “social good” of a union vs the will of someone that owns and built a company.

So when it comes to climate, this is exactly what is going on. We have a group of good intentioned concerned scientists. ( I have read a lot of the research of the top ones and believe it’s a matter of over attribution to co2. Its like me focusing one major teleconnection in weather and ignoring the total picture) They tend to lean left, but they believe what they are doing is for the social good. But their intentions are hijacked completely by a group of zealots who are pivoting from Covid into Climate as a means to change the foundational values that have made this nation the envy of the world. Ah yes the word envy. This group believes we stole from the rest of the world, hence our success. It was not our system which if applied elsewhere would lead to such success. But then again success would mean destruction of the planet. Such a group does not believe truly that a mighty and merciful loving God actually gave us what we need to adapt to the challenges that face us, with a reach toward that entity. Instead they are obsessed with another agenda that puts their interest. So be it Covid,Climate,Weather, etc its all out of the same play book, the relative truth of men who think they know better and want individuals to submit, vs the absolute truth that is contained right in the opening lines of our Declaration, and is divinely inspired.

Its up to you to look at everything and come to your own conclusion. But a lot depends on where your focus is. Again that is still your choice… at least right now.

Happy New Year everyone and get ready, a lot of wild weather on the way for much of the country IMO. Mid Jan to mid Feb.


Joe Bastardi is a pioneer in extreme weather and long-range forecasting. He is the author of “The Climate Chronicles: Inconvenient Revelations You Won’t Hear From Al Gore — and Others” which you can purchase at the CFACT bookstore. His new book The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate war can be found here. phonyclimatewar.com

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January 4, 2021 6:04 am

Not on a power trip? The guy has ben an institute director for 36 years, he had more power than other scientists, that power trips are his modus operandi.

Ask any real scientists what 36 years as a bureaucrat makes to you.

John Tillman
Reply to  Pauleta
January 4, 2021 10:50 am

The mini-megalomaniac bureaucrat wants Brad Pitt to play him in the COVID movie. This year he will have been in power at NIH longer than J. Edgar Hoover was at the FBI. The last time he worked as a physician, ie treating patients, was as an internist resident in 1968.

Tom in Florida
January 4, 2021 6:13 am

Amen to that.
Or is it now Awomen?

Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 4, 2021 7:40 am

Ya, wasn’t that something. Sheesh! 🙄

Reply to  Philip
January 4, 2021 8:01 am

The most astounding thing is that the moron who said this is an ordained Methodist minister.

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 8:25 am

A lot of these ministers have gone “full woke.”

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 4, 2021 8:47 am

Woke and drowsy operating from a selective, opportunistic, relativistic quasi-religion (e.g. “ethics”) and a zealotry that is matched by few. They should drop their em-pathetic appeals, their leverage games, and discover principles that are observable and reproducible. In this context: men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 4, 2021 11:19 am

Awoman as an alternative to amen, makes as much sense as does herstory as an alternative to history. Amen is not a gendered word, heck it isn’t even an english word.
An ordained minister should know that.

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 12:19 pm

Amen is Jewish.
Aman is Elvish…

Reply to  Photios
January 5, 2021 10:25 am

And, of course, Elvish lives!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 1:25 pm

Unless you were ordained at MakeMeAMinister.com for $19.95

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 5:33 pm

Can’t figure out why they didn’t go for a herstory of a woman’s life, similar to the history for a man’s auto/biography. Twice the penetration (crude, I know).

David A
Reply to  MarkW
January 5, 2021 1:20 am

Clearly the woman that said “Awoman” is mental, or womtal perhaps.

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Reply to  David A
January 5, 2021 8:35 pm

It was a dude wot said it.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 4, 2021 12:12 pm

“gone “full woke.””

One reason for the decline of the church

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
January 5, 2021 5:19 am

Learn about Sedevacantism movement in the Catholic Church. When the false-popes are removed then we conservatives may be able to return to the Roman Church.

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 8:27 am

Obviously desiring to be seen as more woke than Methodist. 😏

Reply to  Philip
January 4, 2021 11:21 am

Many of the mainline churches have decided that the gospel of Marx is more important than the gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 11:13 am

Ordained minister? I could be an ordained minister if I filled out a form online and paid something like $15.

Reply to  BillC
January 5, 2021 4:35 am

Why spend any money at all? Just set up your own Church and ordain yourself. That’s what Protestants have been doing ever since 1517.

Reply to  Alba
January 5, 2021 10:25 am

Arguably there has been no legitimate church at least since 1517. See Sedevacantism and above. Sedevacantist Catholics believe that modern popes have committed the heresy of modernism in Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican,

David A
Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 5, 2021 1:17 am
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January 4, 2021 6:21 am

Dr. Fauci is an embarrassment. Dr. Mullis, inventor of the PCR test and Nobel Laureate called him a liar. I watched Dr. Fauci misrepresent the Ford Medical Center study on HCQ to Congress. The climate alarmists are not well-intentioned. Without evidence, they are pushing a suicidal move to energy production that can not support the modern world.

Steve Case
Reply to  Nelson
January 4, 2021 6:26 am


I kept hoping that this would happen.

John Tillman
Reply to  Nelson
January 4, 2021 8:58 am

Sadly, Kary Mullis died in Augusst 2019.

Steve Case
Reply to  Nelson
January 4, 2021 9:27 am

“The climate alarmists are not well-intentioned. Without evidence, they are pushing a suicidal move to energy production that can not support the modern world.”

They don’t like the modern world, and what it is that they don’t like about it is that they are not in charge.

Reply to  Nelson
January 4, 2021 6:07 pm

January 4, 2021 6:28 am

<i>come to your own conclusion</i>

I have. People like Neil Ferguson, Chris Whitty, Patrick Vallance and Dr Fauci were most helpful on that.

Jimmy Haigh
January 4, 2021 6:37 am

Fauci struck me as a BS merchant from Day #1. He wouldn’t have lasted a single 12 hour tour offshore on the oil patch.

Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
January 4, 2021 9:31 am

There is Fauci’s financial interest in Remdemisvir, which he touted strongly as the cure. It simply did not work and was shelved in the first place because it was supposed to be a cancer treatment and also did not work for that purpose. It was simply a bid to make money and recoup the money lost on developing the drug in the first place.

Then, we have his denigration and obfuscations about HCQ and the subsequent studies designed to show it was bad or harmful. Giving toxically-high HCQ doses to people already very ill got him what he wanted. Giving test patients HCQ and no zinc also produced spurious results; the Italians reported that many patients had zinc deficiencies.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Charles Higley
January 4, 2021 10:29 am

Actually Remdemisvir cures FIP in cats and cat owners are paying a lot of money to get bootleg Remdemisvir from China. The company could sell a lot of it for cats but guess they don’t think they can make enough money doing that.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
January 4, 2021 11:23 am

There are is no company that will turn down profit. If they believed they could sell the drug to cat owners for more than the cost of making the drug, they would do it.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Charles Higley
January 4, 2021 5:55 pm

The only drug listed for use against Covid by Health Canada, is believe it or not is Remdesivir. They may be testing others, but that is it along with a steroid I believe. So they have ignored the HCQ combo and Ivermectin in spite of the now over 200 reports on their efficacy: I have sent the following to media, medical people and politicians:
After President Trump QUOTED a doctor who had success with a combo of Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc, he was denigrated by Fauci, Democrats, and the corrupt CNN. He has now been shown to be correct. Meanwhile, here in Canada everyone is in DENIAL about treatments that work and can save lives. Because of the MSM many have died in the USA and around the world. There are now about 200 studies showing the efficacy of HCQ, Vitamin D, Zinc, and Ivermectin:
Oh, did you notice something? IVERMECTIN, the new kid on the block. Yes, the Japanese wonder drug which can be used in prevention and treatment.
Did the media ever consider asking the medical community about it? You have already been informed and failed to do so.
Now, here are a few more interviews for you to read and digest before your next critical article:
It could save a lot of lives, starting immediately.
 It’s a shame it is not being publicly advocated in Canada. Canadians would have something to cheer about while they wait for their vaccines.
Here is the group that developed the protocol:
Vitamin D

Covid and Zinc

Dr. Oz Zinc


What will be done about it? Why are we letting seniors die in care facilities?
Gerald Machnee
Lockport, MB

David A
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 5, 2021 1:25 am

With the treatments you outlined there would be no need for a questionable vaccine.

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 5, 2021 1:32 am

Gerald you can throw Fox into your list that went after the President and HCQ. Fox had a hit piece right after Trump wondered about HCQ.

January 4, 2021 7:10 am

I am still shocked that our #1 epidemiologist got the flu…doesn’t he have access to the latest and greatest flu vaccine? Wasn’t he wearing his mask?

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 11:25 am

Nobody has ever declared that any flu vaccine is 100% effective.
There are thousands of flue strains, and the flu vaccine is targeted towards the strains that “experts” thought would be most prevalent 6 months prior to the start of the flu season.

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 1:47 pm

Apparently, he forgot his goggles, which is a common mistake made by mask proponents. The eyes are a window to contagion. Also, wash your hands to mitigate cross-contamination and fecal spread.

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 5:20 pm

He probably got the flue because he was wearing a mask.

B. Kindseth
January 4, 2021 7:27 am

The quote “The Urge to Save Humanity is almost always a false front for the Urge to rule.” is significant. Trump, who comes off as driven to get things done, showed the proper constitutional ideals by not taking over state responsibilities during the pandemic including carrying out vaccination programs in their states. This is in stark contrast to some governors’ actions.

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Reply to  B. Kindseth
January 4, 2021 7:51 am

“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”
― H.L. Mencken, Minority Report

Not simply to rule, rather to rule humanity. That is a much more devious intention than just wanting to be President or Prime Minister, or even a King.

Reply to  Philip
January 4, 2021 10:48 am

…not only to rule humanity, but to do so with an iron rod! The Bolsheviks have been at this ever since they wrote the “holy scriptures”. We shall be introduced to their One King shortly, and if you are afraid of mandated vaccines, wait ’till they mandate worship to their One God.

David A
Reply to  paranoid goy
January 5, 2021 1:27 am

Plato said it best perhaps, ” Such is the nature of the Tyrant, when he first appears, he is a protector.”

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  B. Kindseth
January 4, 2021 9:29 am

“Trump, who comes across as driven” to stay in power no matter the cost to anyone else. Ironic that he too is willing to do anything, say anything, true or lie, in order to continue to rule.

Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
January 4, 2021 9:44 am

No kidding Richard….Russia colluuuusion proved that 😜

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 11:28 am


Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 12:15 pm

So how you going to excuse yesterdays tape of Trump asking Raffensperger to “Find” him 11 thousand votes by doing a “recalculation.”
Has the same smell don’t you think of “I want you to do me a favour.”
Crooked to the bone, pure and simple….

Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 1:44 pm

He didn’t. This was disinformation spread by The Washington Post. Listen or read the full conversation.


Reply to  n.n
January 4, 2021 4:33 pm

The entire call was pretty much a hotch potch of lies and falsehoods by Trump. Read about it here:

Trump clearly asked for an offical to “find ” votes for him. One can only assume he wanted these votes fraudulently found given he then goes on to say it could be excused if Raffensberger said he had done a “recalculation.” And Raffensberger was having none of it. And let’s not forget he is a Republican.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 6:59 pm

Ah, we can see your problem. You would rather believe the BeS from AP as they invent a story for every fact.

Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 3:33 pm

Is this like Russia colluuuusion Simon?

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 4:24 pm

More like the Ukraine impeachment. Asking officials to do dirty deals for him. Disgraceful. An obvious breach of power.

Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 4:28 pm

You mean asking them to FIND OUT THE TRUTH.

and stop CRIMINAL ACTIVITY by the Biden son…

….don’t you simple one. !

Reply to  fred250
January 4, 2021 5:53 pm

Soo you think doing a “recalculation” was asking for the truth? Wow, just wow.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 6:01 pm

Check the real news about Ukraine, Simon. It is the Bidens who should be charged. They took millions in bribes. The Corrupt CNN and others kept it out of the news. The FBI kept the hard drive from Hunter Biden hidden. Bidens had the prosecutor fired to keep themselves from being charged. Ukraine is now asking the USA treasury for 13 Billion refund.

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 4, 2021 7:38 pm

More conspiracy theories. None of what you have said here is true except Hunter Biden is dodgy. Like Trumps kids. Biden didn’t have the prosecutor fired. Obama did. Biden just did what he was asked to do. And the prosecutor was as cooked…as… well… Trump, which is why he was sent down the road.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 6:06 pm

Trump was only asking for SOME of the STOLEN votes.
He was testing the integrity of the Georgians.
They failed.

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
January 4, 2021 9:17 pm

Trump asked for a recalculation.

David A
Reply to  Simon
January 5, 2021 6:53 am

President Trump, in that call, clearly stated his belief ( and a quote reasonable one) that there was 100s of thousands of fradulant Biden votes, and it should be easy to find the few needed to give him the win.

President Trump was both reasonable and correct in that call.

Reply to  David A
January 5, 2021 11:39 am

He’s entitled to his opinion, but he crossed the line asking Raffensberger to “recalculate” the votes for him. How anyone can see that as anything but “unpresidential” is beyond me. He was clearly asking him to cheat.

President Trump was both reasonable and correct in that call.” Not according to those responsible for the election. And they are Republicans.

Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
January 4, 2021 11:27 am

Progressives really get their panties in a wad whenever they are asked to actually follow the laws that they passed.

Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 4:34 pm

No it was more like the Ukraine scandal. Asking an official to do him a favour.” Crooked to the bone.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Simon
January 4, 2021 6:02 pm

You are speaking about the Bidens?

Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
January 5, 2021 6:20 pm

Being a “bought-and-paid-for” communist apologist is something you do very well.

January 4, 2021 7:37 am

The American media is broken. Not just the American media. Most all of the worlds news reportage has become not only partisan, but wordsmithed, photoshopped, massaged, tweaked, and shaved down to fit a narrative. There is no debate. It’s settled. You’re either on board and dug in, or you’re someone to dismiss out of hand.
Second to that is the unelected bureaucrat as policy influencer. The E.U. is rife with them. The U.N., the World Bank, and more are leveraging their bureaucratic empires to move nations on directions and towards ends they have not concluded to attend to by themselves. Nations are being shoved, coerced, bribed, and subtly threatened, and not so subtly threatened to join the “cause”.
This path we are on doesn’t bode well for individual relations, let alone those of diverse nations. If we can’t talk, freely engage in open debate. If we have to pick either A or be dismissed as B. Things are going to get ugly.

January 4, 2021 8:03 am

Unions always end up doing way more harm then good.
The only people who have ever benefited from unions, are those who run them.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
January 4, 2021 10:01 am

I found that out the hard way.

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Neil Catto
January 4, 2021 8:13 am

If you want to see how weather affects virus epidemics see here: https://www.weather-research.com/articles/cov-2-update

Weather controls the potency of viruses, they lose their potency with sunshine (UV radiation, high temperatures and low humidity. Viruses do like cold, moist and cloudy days, this is why most “seasonal viruses occur in winter in the northern hemisphere.

The interesting thing about the first epidemic in March/April2020 was the fact that it was out of season. But, increased UV radiation brought the Gompertz curve in quite rapidly.

I suggest the current data is more in line with the 2020/21 seasonal outbreak.

Jeff in Calgary
Reply to  Neil Catto
January 4, 2021 9:35 am

I noticed this as well. Here in Alberta, our spring “flatten the curve” initiatives did nothing. It was only 6 weeks later when warmer weather arrived that the numbers went down. Now in the fall, the numbers didn’t start going up when everyone went back to work/school etc. It was 5 or 6 weeks later when cold weather returned. The new strict December lockdown happened to correspond with mild winter weather, and the infection rate dropped by about 30%. Was it the strict lockdown or the weather. The past suggests it was the weather.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
January 4, 2021 11:08 am

The mild lockdown in late november worked, the numbers plateaued and started to drop 2 weeks later, but unfortunately the govt was stampeded into tougher lockdown. If they had waited a few more days they might have avoided tougher lockdown

Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
January 5, 2021 1:42 am

I doubt it Pat. For a politician there is very little downside to “more” safety. It reminds me of school closings because of cold weather. It is Far easier for the Administration to cancel school because of cold weather then to possibly lose their job because some child got frostbite or was stranded on some bus that conked out. This is the new world of hyper safety.

January 4, 2021 8:21 am

Let’s be clear…..Fauci is not an expert….he is a career bureaucrat. Nothing more.

January 4, 2021 8:22 am

Very nicely written. Could use a few periods and grammar editing, but Joe B gets the points across nicely.

All of the things he writes about have been hit upon many times here at WUWT posts and comments. A larger audience, much larger, needs to read his essay.

Covid and climate alarmism are simply being hijacked by those with a clear political agenda of one-party rule and to seize total political power over the People by whatever means necessary.

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January 4, 2021 8:26 am

FYI Joe, sugar in the tank makes no harm.
So, you won’t sabotage your neighbor’s car with sugar 🧐

Peter W
January 4, 2021 8:28 am

Stuff such as this is why I founded ODIOUS (Organization to Defend Imperfections in Our United States), motto: “There is nothing quite as dangerous as an idealist.”

(Don’t ask me how to join. You have to figure that out for yourself.)

January 4, 2021 8:35 am

Lockdown don’t work, brilliant explanation from
Ivor Cummins.

Face mask don’t work either.

RESULTS We included 15 randomised trials investigating the effect of masks (14 trials) in healthcare workers and the general population and of quarantine (1 trial). We found no trials testing eye protection. Compared to no masks there was no reduction of influenza-like illness (ILI) cases.


Stop all madness in the world.

Reply to  Leo
January 4, 2021 9:46 am

C’mon Leo, masks work don’t they 😜

Reply to  Derg
January 4, 2021 9:48 pm

They work in banks!

Reply to  Leo
January 4, 2021 10:04 am

Mask zealots don’t seem to care.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Leo
January 4, 2021 10:07 am

It looks like the lockdowns are going to continue. Japan is about to impose lockdowns on themselves as the Wuhan virus infection there picks up pace.

Fauci just said it might be necessary for a “national” lockdown in the U.S. in the near future.

I wonder if the Red States will participate in a national lockdown?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 4, 2021 1:36 pm

Infection rate is only significant to estimating community immunity and isolating vulnerable populations. Japan has, to date, without restrictive mandates,less than 3000 deaths attributed to the SARS-Cov-2 virus.

January 4, 2021 8:36 am

Well, let’s start with something that should be simple, in fact, rather mundane: masks. First, masks are not created and perform equally. Second, there is intuitive evidence that they are effective to prevent infection (i.e. block) and/or disease progression (i.e. reduce viral load). Third,controlled trials show that they either increase infection in specialized use, or with random chance have no effect in the general population.

Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study

Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers

Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses

Then there are the global (i.e. signal diversity) trials and observation of early treatments with the HCQ cocktail that demonstrate an 80 to 90% reduction in hospitalization and deaths. The result with the Ivermectin protocol is even better and at later stages of the disease.

On a related note, Japan, without restrictive mandates, has recorded less than 3,000 deaths attributed to SARS-CoV-2. In the early part of 2020, there were viral blooms and excess deaths recorded in Planned Parent/hood facilities and medical spaces. I suppose it depends on how you define “life”, “excess”, “viable”, “choice”, etc.

A traditional religion (i.e. behavioral protocol) or its relativistic cousin “ethics”, or something altogether selective, opportunistic, politically congruent. A faith in God or in mortal gods (e.g. philosophers). An ideology that is liberal (i.e. divergent, generational), progressive (i.e. unqualified monotonic), libertarian (i.e. self-governing), or conservative (i.e. moderating). A conflation of logical domains or a separation. Appeals to empathy or principles (e.g. individual dignity, intrinsic value, inordinate worth). Diversity of color? Diversity of individuals, minority of one. Conversation are dangerous ground when people are searching for and exploit leverage.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  n.n
January 4, 2021 10:12 am

There are so many contradictory studies out now, that no matter where you stand on wearing a mask, you can find a study to support your position.

The only thing one can fall back on is common sense in a situation like this. And I guess, various people have various definitions of what common sense is, so we just have to do the best we can.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 4, 2021 10:42 am

Agreed Tom, common sense. Masks cannot stop all the virus but they must stop some including aerosol droplets. Masks are the law here in Alberta so i wear mask, i think it must help reduce transmission some, but that does not answer whether we should be limiting transmission among young healthy people instead of letting it blast thru the general population while instituting draconian lock down on the old and sick.
Herd immunity still looks like only real solution as the new vaccines aren’t vaccines as we know them

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
January 4, 2021 11:29 am

Until there is a standard for type of mask that actually works and needs to be worn, the rest is all fluff and placebo.
Certain masks have qualities that can be effective. Dental hygiene masks block aerosols for the wearer. They have a heavier wire in the nose so it can be pinched almost air tight.
My question is why haven’t these been made in lieu of all others? Why are there still “not for medical use” simple dust mask being sold?
Of course I know the answer, all about the money.

Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
January 4, 2021 1:34 pm

The efficacy of masks vary with construction, materials, behavior, and time. They capture droplets, then the water evaporates, and the particles are either ingested or ejected. The intuitive evidence suggests they will block or reduce transmission, but controlled trials, in nominally closed environments with trained personnel, have shown this to not be supported by evidence or a deceptive truth.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 4, 2021 1:29 pm

The earliest report is from the 80s. The reports are not contradictory, but should be qualified. Masks in both specialized use and in the general population do not prevent viral spread, and are well suited as petri dishes and collectors. In specialized use, over time, they actually increase infections because, in part, trained personnel fail to follow protocol. In the general population, they either have no effect in 90% of cases, or an infection rate that corresponds to flipping a coin.

Reply to  n.n
January 5, 2021 1:49 am

Exactly NN. The mask might stop “it” initially, but “it” can still live in your mask.

David A
Reply to  Derg
January 5, 2021 6:58 am

It may somewhat decrease the viral load of exhaled breath, and it may increase the viral load of an infected person using a mask quite improperly.

Reply to  David A
January 5, 2021 6:42 pm

So, a condom with a hole in it reduces the “… load” so they must be perfectly reasonable to use. It makes sense. It seems reasonable. Some think it’s true so it must be, especially if the condom has good construction otherwise. Yea… for somebody elses daughter!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  n.n
January 6, 2021 5:24 am

Well, just to keep the mask controversy going:


“Face masks reduce the risk of spreading large COVID-linked droplets when speaking or coughing by up to 99.9 percent, according to a lab experiment with mechanical mannequins and human subjects, researchers said Wednesday.

A woman standing two meters (yards) from a coughing man without a mask will be exposed to 10,000 times more such droplets than if he were wearing one, even if he is only 50 centimeters away, they reported in the journal Royal Society Open Science.

“There is no more doubt whatsoever that face masks can dramatically reduce the dispersion of potentially virus-laden droplets,” senior author Ignazio Maria Viola, an expert in applied fluid dynamics at the University of Edinburgh’s School of Engineering, told AFP. . .

“If you wear a mask, you are mitigating the virus transmission by an order of magnitude—10 times less,” Maria Viola said.”

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I may be getting myself a vaccination from the VA here in a few days, depending on supply. I’ll let you know how it goes. If I survive. 🙂

I also hear Ivermectin keeps 80 percent of the people treated with it, right after symptoms show up, out of the hosptal.

Hydroxychloriquine is reported to keep 84 percent of those treated early out of the hospital.

We have overflowing hospitals.

Does anyone see a fix for this problem?

January 4, 2021 8:58 am

They lose their argument of good intentions when it is blatantly obvious that their efforts are supporting evil doers and they do not speak up against these evil doers.

Not that I think most of these people are doing so with good intentions. But even if they are, the fact that their work supports evil without their explicit condemnation of those actions, says they are in fact evil doers themselves.

January 4, 2021 10:33 am

Hmmm, it’s almost as if somebody saw our future :

Reply to  gringojay
January 4, 2021 11:58 am

George Orwell did what most people do to forecast the future, he looked at history and understood that there are groups of individuals that seek that power by whatever means. Everything Orwell proposed for the future has all been attempted before, in similar or slightly different forms.

January 4, 2021 10:29 am

“btw how did President Trump get rid of it so fast given he is older and, to put it nicely, heftier than Chris Cuomo”?

(Conservative vs. Progressive; Trump is a ‘conservative’ & Cuomo is a ‘progressive’)

Trump wanted to get well, for personal gain.

Cuomo wanted to stay “sick”, for personal gain ….

(Conservative vs. Progressive)

Reply to  DonM
January 5, 2021 1:51 am

DonM Trump is not a conservative, but more of a populist IMHO

Reply to  Derg
January 5, 2021 10:27 am

I don’t really know what to call him. ‘conservative’ is what I typed. My point being that Trump, typical of those that support him, wants to get better for the sake of being better; while Cuomo wants to stay ‘sick and milk the system for the sake of personal gain (which is typical of the leftish type leadership).

January 4, 2021 10:50 am

Any cell biologists out there know whether an RNA vaccine, which is taken up by normal cells as well as by the dendritic cell target, can trigger an auto-immune disease?

January 4, 2021 1:42 pm

“…..a group of good intention-ed concerned scientists”? Mikey Mann? Jimmie Hansen? Allie Gore? No, follow the money….and the political proclivity. Humans don’t change…..there is no perfect human….there is no unbiased human….the so called media has always been working on some agenda….the Hearst Group probably pushed the country into the Spanish-American War…..during Franklin Roosevelt’s time, the “media” would cooperate in not taking pictures of him in a wheelchair….even today there are few pictures of him showing that he could not walk. Fauci? He’s a jerk, that’s all. The summation of Fauci’s advice is wear a mask…stay 6 feet away….wash your hands….just brilliant, eh?

Mike Dubrasich
January 4, 2021 4:31 pm

I have zero financial stake in it; nevertheless I heartily recommend Joe Bastardi’s new book: ‘The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War’. See the review by Anthony Watts here.

Mr. Bastardi has a lot more to say about motives, agendas, and leftist tactics in his book, and more to say about absolute truth. If he is somewhat forgiving towards Fauci in the essay above, giving him the benefit of some doubt, it is from a gracious perspective.

The strategy and tactics that will defeat authoritarianism are those that promote goodness. Fire does not defeat fire, water does. Truth must win in the end, or there will be no end. Warmer is better, in climate and in human relations.

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January 4, 2021 5:38 pm

According to the Moderna website:
“We have developed proprietary technologies and methods to create mRNA sequences that cells recognize as if they were produced in the body.”

Note well the term proprietary. It means they own it.
Just like Microsoft owns the software on most personal computers.
Who can forget the Blue Screen of Death?

On the same page, Moderna further states:
“We start with our desired sequence for a protein.
We design and synthesize the corresponding mRNA sequence – the code that will create that protein.
Before synthesis, we also engineer that mRNA sequence to optimize the mRNA’s physical properties, as well as those of the encoded protein.
We deliver the mRNA sequence to the cells responsible for making that protein via one of several modalities. Reaching different types of cells requires different delivery methods.
And, once the mRNA – the instructions – are in the cell … human biology takes over. Ribosomes read the code and build the protein, and the cells express the protein in the body.”

In other words, their proprietary code controls your bodies’ expression of proteins.

On another page they state:
“We need to get the mRNA into the targeted tissue and cells while evading the immune system. If the immune system is triggered, the resultant response may limit protein production and, thus, limit the therapeutic benefit of mRNA medicines.”

In other words, if you have a healthy immune system which is doing the job for which God gave it to you, their injected ‘software’ won’t work.
So they must avoid and trick their way past this immune system to colonise your cells and hijack them into producing whatever they want them to produce.

How is this different from any other viral infection?

Then, if we do sign over to them the right to inject their technology into us to commandeer our cells, they tell us they might protect us from a virus with a survival rate of 99.95%.
But if they fail to protect us and we suffer injury or death, neither we nor our dependants will have any claim upon them.

Is this not a classic case of the Devil’s Bargain?

Paul C
January 4, 2021 5:58 pm

Probably time to sack Fauci’s continuity person after being filmed supposedly receiving his shot in one arm, then when interviewed about any after-effects, says it caused soreness at the injection site, but rubs the other arm.

January 5, 2021 4:28 am

Fauci is a far Lefty but hides behind his rope-a-dope, today Trumps wrong but tomorrow Trumps kinda right since I sorta said something that can be interpreted by the media to be bashing Trump but what I’m really doing is praising government — and other blather. Cover. Misdirection. Timed to harm with a 24 hour news cycle then gives it “legs” by “clarifying”. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He even states he willfully lies to accomplish his goals. So go try to discover when he was telling the truth.

His “tell” are the memos he wrote to Hillary while she was Sec. State – the ones of “tell Hillary we love her”. Dwell on why a “scientist” would “love” a political appointee.

January 5, 2021 5:17 am

Truth over facts. Faux FauXi and his PLA PLANdemic hysteria

I’m 72, Milady Wife is 82, we remain healthy though little restricting our activities for the past year. Where are all of the colds Rhinovirus and flu Influenza? Does the magic virus cure them too?

Paul C
January 5, 2021 11:54 am

Meanwhile, here in England’s third national lockdown (if the first two were so successful there is no need for a third, if they failed, no need to follow the same path to failure?) we have the un-health secratary unwittingly demanding an end to all restrictions!
No-one left to catch the virus if everyone is already infected, so set us free!

Smart Rock
January 5, 2021 4:33 pm

“<i>We have a group of good intentioned concerned scientists … … I have read a lot of the research of the top ones and believe it’s a matter of over attribution to co2 …. But their intentions are hijacked completely by a group of zealots who are pivoting from Covid into Climate as a means to change the foundational values that have made this nation the envy of the world</i>”

You are being much too generous there, Joe. CO2-attribution studies are an exercise in pseudo-science. They start with the unproven, unprovable and absurdly simplistic assumption, namely “<i>all post-1975 warming is due to increased CO2 emissions from human activity</i>” and they build an edifice from there that looks like science, but is not science.

The whole climate science field has become a political movement that is dressed up to look like science. It started out when Margaret Thatcher started throwing taxpayers’ money at Phil Jones et al. in 1982. And it’s been downhill all the way from there.

Consider a young student who wants to specialize in climatology and thinks that all the “CO2-bad” is a serious warning. By the time she has studied, researched and practised enough to realise that there are very serious, fundamental flaws in modern climate science (assuming that she retains a bit of innate skepticism), she has to face the consequences of pointing out those flaws. Consequences that include extreme verbal abuse in social media, loss of research funding and quite possibly loss of her job. She is quite likely to swallow her pride, keep her mouth shut and continue in a moderately well paid career.

You can tell when science becomes politicized by the way skeptics are treated. Just ask Galileo, or the forgotten biologists who went to the gulag for disagreeing with Lysenko. Or Willie Soon. Whereas disagreement and debate about real scientific theories is usually done politely and respectfully, even with humour.

January 5, 2021 5:36 pm

Here is the latest, ‘41-year-old-woman-dies-suddenly-two-days-after-getting-pfizer-vaccine’


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