America’s Frontline Doctors traveled to Washington and gave a press conference.
UPDATE. Here’s a version that is still up
UPDATE 2. Squarespace has censored America’s Frontline Doctors website.
Give her a listen.
Several versions of this have been pulled off YouTube while I was preparing this post. I hope this FB version survives till the am. And now the FB has been pulled.
Here is a version of the complete news conference still on YouTube as of this moment. I’ve cued it to Dr Immanuel’s speaking.
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Already pulled from YouTube…
Watch here
https://lbry.tv/@GeekforTruth:c/American-Doctors-Address-COVID-19-Misinformation:4
Thanks. It is down on bitchute now as well. The censors are working doubletime.
Dr Stella Immanuel, what can I say other than “You go girl” and I’m with you!
Yes Dr Stella telling the truth. They are tr
acking her and her character to make sure nothing harms the money trail. Wish there was a site to follow her.
It is still on Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2MbeGcO2FrT/
It is still on bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/video/ukmtlokiGHRr/
Here too:
The full Summit is below, go to Menu-Summit:
AmericasFrontlineDoctors.com
It is nearly 3 hours but very much worth listening to whole thing
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Three hours? Did you watch the 5 minute clip that Youtube just pulled?
The 5 minute clip of the angry Houston woman doctor who also is black and comes from Nigeria who’s speech will Change America…..
This is most important non political speech ever made by a doctor, to save lives at a time of a pandemic….
She and her staff used the HCQ cocktail as a prophylactic, in addition to treating 350 covid sick, high risk patients who had diabetes, ashama, who are obese, who are elderly (oldest patient 92) and so on. Her patients all got better and her staff did not get covid.
She states that she doesn’t care if she risks her career, as she knows what she is saying is the truth…
Why did youtube pull suddenly pull this video?
Why did youtube block the account of Trump Jr. for posting the 5 minute clip of the Doctor speaking about this very important subject…
Based her clinical experience she states, it is medical fact that, the HCQ cocktail is close to a cure for covid when used early.
This is consistent with the results of Michigan HCQ cocktail study, except the Michigan HCQ cocktail study waited 48 hours before using the HCQ cocktail which drastically reduced the effectiveness of the HCQ cocktail.
Americans are dying needlessly. She say that is madness. Which it is. It is also a crime to hide an effective treatment for a virus at at time of a pandemic.
You Tube, CNN, Washington Post, NYT, and so on…. are going to face company ending lawsuits whose size will depend on those companies taking immediate action to mitigate damages.
When criminal negligence has happened, logically needless dying must be stopped as soon as possible.
Or criminal negligence becomes mass murder.
The Houston doctor compares those (Media companies, fake news) who are hiding the effectiveness of the HCQ cocktails, because their care more about politics than the American people, to the evil done by the Nazis.
Is there another possible spin? I am tired of 24/7 lies.
Our country is not a political game. We need to stop this madness. This is a time for action.
She is an honest angry Houston doctor, who is on the side of her patients and who appears to have no connection to either the Republican or Democratic parties.
I agree with you
I AGREE ITS SOMETHING HIDDEN
Her comment about those who are fighting against prescribing this cure is that they’re just like the good Nazis that turned a blind eye to the holocaust. That’s what got the video pulled. Without that one line, there’s no justification to block the video.
None of them are claiming that, they are actually giving no specific reason other than the amorphous”It violates our policy”.
The family of a woman who died in Immanuel’s care do to malpractice tried to sue in another state but couldn’t find her to serve her papers. She had fled to Texas. Not the kind of doctor I would want taking care of me.
James Todaro MD has Reposted the the full 44 min Americas Frontline Doctors video at the new Omni Journal
https://omnij.org/AmericasFrontlineDoctors
Top left at https://omnij.org/Main_Page
From Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health
2 peer reviewed papers in: American Journal of Epidemiology, published by Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
May 27, 2020- “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis”
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586
July 20, 2020- Response to: “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients” and “Re: Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis”
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa152/5873640
More from Dr. Risch:
https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535
More COVID 19 Science journal articles Aggregated Here:
https://c19study.com/
Read the science. Check your confirmation Bias. Draw your own conclusions.
Medicine should be practiced by Trained Physicians using their knowledge, experience and the tools they have at hand, not by untrained poorly informed politicians and pundits.
“We don’t know how many people will get COVID-19 in the future, but based on deaths to date, a treatment which is x% effective could have saved:
17% effective could have saved 111,393 lives. 30% effective could have saved 196,577 lives.
49% effective could have saved 321,076 lives.”
It does not have to be 100% effective to make a difference. Remdesivir is not as effective as they had hoped. Perfect is the enemy of the good.
thanks for the links
I am looking for the first part of this video, where the doctors are talking about kids and teachers and the virus
Since when is truth that disputes the Marxists agenda against against Googles terms service? As an ex-Googler who is not a radical Socialist, I was keenly aware of their far left leaning politically biased culture, but this is embarrassing.
The agenda requires fear. Scared people are easy to manipulate.
It is called Lysenkoism.
Trofim Lysenko led a political purge of any science, especially genetics, that threatened official party Marxist doctrine of Lamarkian evolution… The offending scientists went to the gulag.
It set soviet agriculture back decades.
Try Breibart, it works in the Netherlands!! The simple FACT that this news item has been censured makes me mad; this will have repercussions in the coming elections world-wide, except ofcourse in China….
At least in China they are giving their people HCQ.
It means they are directly over the target!!! If you have a cure you don’t need a vaccine multiple times a year. Good for us and bad for Baal & Medusa Gates, Fraudci & Co
Has no one done any background check on this “doctor”? Sorry, but she’s a nut. Doesn’t matter whether she’s right or wrong, telling the truth or lying – she’s a nut. It’s embarrassing to see her promoted on this site. 🙁
Well, Paul, Dr. Stella tears into Dr. Sanjay Gupta and that makes her the real deal in my book. When you put “doctor” in parenthesis it suggests you don’t think she is a doctor? A little racism here?
Hate to have to tell Paul this, lots of doctors are nuts. May be brilliant in their field, take them outside of it and they come off as bat poop crazy a lot of the time. And yes, over the years I have known doctors, worked for several, hunted with 4 a few years ago and have spent many an hour shooting with a few. Just being a doctor does not preclude them being a bit off.
Paul (July 28, 2020 at 9:33 am) … is the nut, …….. a “trough feeding” Trump hating nut.
Why would racism have anything to do with it… the Dr. has made many irrational statements pertaining to things that are not scientific. I don’t believe Paul was referring to anything but that. I don’t even see why you would bring that up.
Because he is a race baiting POS.
Supporting this doctor because she has a narrative that is convenient is like supporting Alex Jones because he says climate change is a crock. Her other videos do very little to make her credible, even if she is 100% correct on this issue. Sorry, but it’s true. I’d rather take my medical advice from MedCram, thanks. This has nothing to do with the identity of the doctors in question, and everything with their credibility.
Good point!
What did you find in your background check of her to establish that she’s a nut? I know that what she is claiming is also claimed by many other medical professionals. It is also supported by a recent study (Published in the Journal of Infectious Disease) conducted in Michigan. I don’t know, so I can only rely on the science and not what I hear on the news or opinion discussions.
I think HCQ is the way to go but this women is a fruitcake.
https://archive.fo/G7wtb
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine?fbclid=IwAR05GEkNBbdNODzENgfsACEEs5MNDKVHHAw6tD_llpP-iSCqaJC4MZLeDf8
I don’t know if she’s telling the truth about her covid patients’ results using HCQ-Zn-Azithromicin, but she’s not saying that her covid treatments depend on anything related to her religious beliefs. Have we reached the point where religious belief is a disqualification for practicing medicine?
She believes in demons, is it? Ok, well I’m actually not finding that so far-fetched anymore, having had a quick look around!
WTF is this country coming to when censorship is being so openly and sanctimoniously implemented?
“The Supernatural world is as real as the physical. What takes place in the spiritual realm affects us physically in our day to day lives.
The subject of the evil spiritual marriage has been grossly mis- understood by many people. While some hold erroneous views, others demonstrate partial knowledge of this all- important subject. The problem of evil marriage goes beyond dilettantish purposes.”
LMAO
The country is in a health emergency, and there is every reason and many laws backing up decisions to prevent people from spreading unsupported medical claims.
She is giving medical advice contrary to what evidence based medicine has determined the facts to be re HCQ and covid.
We are no longer in an information vacuum.
She is making claims that a cure is known.
This is a false statement of medical efficacy.
Birdog, I’d automatically assume that’s a fabrication.
The Lancet and the New England Journal of medicine have both withdrawn papers that states HCQ does not work. Big market growing for lawyers to go after Fauci et al . What are his links to Gilead again?
The reason for the withdrawal was because the source of the data is not allowed to make the data public.
Health care data is highly private data and is in many places protected from public disclosure, or disclosure to anyone not specifically authorized by each patient.
In the US it is a ironclad set of protections, many of which are contained in what are called the HIPAA.
So that being retracted is no indication one way or the other of whether the results reported in the study were accurate or true.
One of the rules of the scientific method is that the data has to released so that the hypothesis can be tested. If it cannot be tested it is not peer reviewed.
She’s still more plausible than Michael Mann, though.
That is not saying much MJ. I think she is a nut, I mean alien DNA and stuff? There are people who think ‘climate change’ is a load of crap but for quite irrational, hairbrained reasons as distinct from the massive flaws in the so called science and the financial and political incentives to get on the green bandwagon. You don’t need the interference of aliens or such like to make the argument.
She sounds like a nut, talks like a nut….. conclusion…?
She’s a duck?
Ergo she will float, but if she sinks and dies, she is not a witch.
Ergo she will float, but if she sinks and dies, she is not a witch.
Who she is is basically irrelevant to the question at hand, which is whether these drugs work and if her statement constitutes evidence, or is it something else?
An opinion? A set of personal observations?
Her report of what she says is her experience?
This is what is called anecdotal information in the world of medicine, and for good reason.
That is all it is.
It is something said by someone.
It matters no one bit who said it, or what was said, when it some to the value of her assertion as scientific evidence.
If one wants to get around that, I do not see how one would, but one way someone might claim is it is possible to do so is to examine credibility.
Which becomes highly subjective.
Which is why such information was long ago deemed un-useful for the purpose of evaluating the efficacy of a drug or a treatment
Right here on this thread is a guy who states outright that to criticize or question her veracity or how much weight to give it is de facto proof of racist intent, but in a separate comment denounces leftists and touts his own conservative bona fides.
It is downright embarrassing how well some people have learned and adopted the mentality and tactics of the left in general, and warmistas (but not only them) in particular, when it suits them, and yet are in all probability blind to what they are themselves doing.
Such is cognitive dissonance.
This is incredibly dangerous.
I for one am imagining the left winning the elections here in the US this fall because of this one single issue.
And all that could result from that…a actual calamity that can never be undone.
Anyone saying we need to even further politicize this issue and make the political Right the champions of HCQ, are being mind-bogglingly irrational.
A “nut” who saves lives – especially mine – is welcome into my world. You have no need of including that treatment set. She didn’t invent it, it was a doctor in NYC whose personal score is better than anyone else in that city.
For me the simple evaluation is this: If Fauci or CDC claims that no one should use HCQ because of side effect dangers, or only in a monitored setting inside a hospital, and I know full well that this medicine has been used for three generations outside hospitals with the full blessing of the medical establishment, then I know they are lying. I do not know why they are lying, but it is obvious they are, because they are contradicting well-established medical science and millions of successfully treated people, otherwise known as “evidence”.
This lady is pointing out what she found works. Same as in NYC (with one doctor) and Florida generally where (I hear) everyone gets HCQ. According the updates at MedCram (now with 100 updates on file – see them) Vitamin D3 and Ivermectin are also providing immense benefit.
So we are supposed to believe an anonymous person who cites no evidence, but just throws out smears? I don’t think so.
What about all the doctors standing in back of her who support her? Not one hit piece bothered to interview the many men and women doctors seen in the background. Bernie, Fauci, and Feely Joe have made some of the whakiest comments imaginable, but they are not roundly comdemned.
“Doctors in the background.” Sorry, wearing a white coat doesn’t make you a “doctor.”
If she’s right, how is she a nut? What does that mean?
Define… “a nut”. And why would I disregard a nut who was right? Right is right, nut or otherwise.
Apparently, she also believes there are only two sexes, male and female.
It’s easy to be right about trivialities, especially if the purpose is to distract.
Right is right, but being partially right about some elements of the message doesn’t count for much.
This whole affair looks like an “anti” psy-op. The message they are putting out is that there is this terrible deadly virus and that there is a wonderful cure that bad people are hiding from us. While you are busy processing that dramatic message and reacting to it, you might forget to question the existence of the deadly virus, or its deadliness — which I presume was the purpose of this performance.
Besides the partial truthfulness of the message, another sign of it being controlled is that the governors did not shut it down until it had reached 20 million people. Cutting it at that point guaranteed that it would eventually reach 200 million.
In a similar case not long ago, people were fiercely debating whether Epstein was killed in jail or was suicided. No one cared to ask whether both hypotheses were false.
Gene,
I have been trying to figure out how to raise a possibility that has occurred to me that I have no idea how to evaluate as to likelihood or plausibility.
I had not considered the phrase psy-op, but this is the exact concept I had in mind.
I was wondering whether it is possible, perhaps likely, or just looking for an explanation of something that has no good explanation…if the reason this HCQ thing keeps popping up again and again, and keeps doing so in ways that seem contrived and almost hokey, but that a lot of people are seeming to latch onto as confirmation of many of their darkest suspicions?
How likely it is just random chance?
How likely is it that the only people who have claimed to have found anything like what this doctor in Texas is saying, are sketchy individual characters who nonetheless have the credentials to be called medical professionals?
No ER doctors or people working in or running large hospitals that have a treatment nightmare on their hands.
This miraculous result doe not show up anytime a clinical trial is conducted, and we now have results from many, with a whole lot more in the pipeline.
One hospital after another has discontinued using this drug and it’s various combinations, after treating large numbers of patients with it early in the outbreak.
One hospital system after another.
One whole state after another.
One whole country after another has stopped using it except in ongoing clinical trials, and even many of those have closed down the treatment arms that used it.
Tens of thousands of people at this point have been given the drug in scientifically contacted clinical trials. Not one single randomized trials of HCQ alone or in combination has found any benefit to the drug, and certainly nothing close to 100% efficacy with any treatment or combination of treatments that has looked at enough people to rise to statistical significance.
Not.
One.
And there are a lot of them, many of which have used this specific combination.
At least one very large one tested this combo in patients who were not hospitalized but treated on an outpatients basis, and took place in teh US and Canada in a wide geographic spread.
Decades of testing on a variety of viruses, including corona virus, have been found to show the drug ineffective. It only works on cells in a culture.
But even most critics of this drug all seem to miss the fact that the 2005 study was done using chloroquine, not HCQ, and did not use zinc, and did not use z pak.
The left are dirty tricksters, and they know that many on the right have for one reason or another latched onto this drug and will not let go no matter how much evidence accumulates that it is worthless for this purpose.
Nicholas McGinley:
You are grossly in error about hydroxychloroquine. The drug has proven efficacy in treating Covid-19 and is precisely why these front line physicians have been using it for their patients and it is far more than “wild guessing” treatment options for Covid-19 that is causing these doctors to get onboard with its use.
The studies you reference are dead wrong, seriously flawed, because zinc sulphate was not used in conjunction with hydroxy nor was “Z-Pack” antibiotic to stop developing pneumonia from occurring which often happens as a second infection from the virus. Further, in many studies, hydroxy was only used in a late stage of progression of the disease in a hospital setting, where results will be less satisfactory.
The established treatment regimen is to use hydroxy and zinc sulphate at disease onset, NOT when you have advanced disease and need hospitalization. In these cases, success has been defined with >95% recovery.
To better educate yourself, below is a link to a Microbiologist who discusses five different ways hydroxychloroquine attacks and neuters viral production of Covid-19 in your body that significantly reduces viral loading and wards off a cytokine storm, which is the immune response that often leads to fatal destruction of the lungs and other organs.
There is no excuse for Dr. Fauci, the CDC or NIH to continue their ridiculous attacks on doctors and the use of this drug to treat Covid-19. The injection of politics into all of this to promote more expensive and less satisfactory drugs like remdisivir and incorrectly claiming more economic shutdowns and isolation is necessary causing irreparable economic damage to this country is fast becoming criminally negligent.
This is especially so when state medical boards are stepping between a physician and patient and harassing and threatening physicians who want this treatment for their patients, and in some states, governors have actually developed the audacity to order pharmacy’s not to dispense hydroxychloroquine to a patient even with a prescription order from a practicing physician. This is outrageous!
As these physicians have warned, many more will needlessly die if this political crap doesn’t stop, which is being aimed squarely at hurting President Trump. Dr. Fauci is right square in the middle of it all, as he promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS1-Covid in 2003, which is in the same family of viruses that SARS2-Covid-19 is in. That is a damning contradiction that Fauci has not explained.
https://www.prageru.com/video/10-minutes-of-science-how-does-hydroxychloroquine-treat-covid-19/
Chuck,
Awesome video.
10 minutes of genius education.
I too like mechanism 5 (check it out).
Here is the portfolio of Dr Mobeen Syed:
https://www.drbeen.com/team/
https://members.drbeen.com/browse
Chuck,
There are few laypeople who have more knowledge than I do, of every aspect of this entire saga.
You link to a video from a microbiologist.
Is a microbiologist a doctor?
And you scoff at the notion of a state medical board having authority for treatment protocols in a public health emergency.
Should we just “educate ourselves” via you tube videos and ignore what thousands of doctors, entire hospital systems, and the vast majority of health care professionals have found to be the case, all over the world?
Amazing how you can curtly dismiss with some trite and shallow criticisms, a long list of scientifically conducted clinical trials, but point to a video from a person who is not even a health care professional as if it was some sort of over riding proof of anything…anything except one persons uninformed opinion.
Medical science uses evidence to decide such matters, not speculative and imagined “mechanisms”, which once enunciated, are taken to be the gospel truth, evidence to the contrary be damned.
Pharmaceutical and biotech companies test thousands of new drugs every year, and every one has a strong rationale for theoretical efficacy…all have a well described mechanism.
Then they are tested in cell cultures, then in animals if the seem to work in vitro.
Only after careful evaluation in animal models are any of them given to human volunteers.
After several phases of testing, they are given to large numbers of people to see if they actually work, and if they are safe.
About one in 5000 ever gets approved after being found to be both safe and effective.
All 5000 have a “mechanism”/
So what?
Clinical trials are what actually happens when actual sick people were given the drugs.
Very few drugs have ever been given to so many sick people by so many doctors with no proof they would work. Maybe none.
But hey, a microbiologist with a video!
It doesn’t matter if she is right or wrong? Perhaps it is you who should be embarrassed for posting such a statement on this site.
Google this lady and she what else she believes and preaches. “Demon sperm”. She is a nut. The good thing is all the believers here can go to her clinic in Houston and be treated. Good luck!
And you just stick with your $2,500 per dose drug that has never once cured anything it was promoted to cure. Good luck with that
Turner, dexamethasone does not cost $2500 per dose.
Remdesivir does
So the rationale for choosing a treatment is now to ignore evidence of efficacy and choose based on what drug has the best low low price?
Governments are subsidizing treatment, clinical trials are free, and everyone is supposed to have insurance.
For me, “it works” trumps “it’s dirt cheap” when it comes to treating a potentially fatal disease.
The only times cheaper is better is when two options are known to be medically equivalent.
Well, maybe nutty “Demon sperm” doctor(*) makes more sense than superstars like “Doctor” Fauci and “David Gorski, MD, PhD”(**)…
(*) yet she seems to be a real registered MD not a witch “doctor”
(**) “Surgeon, scientist, skeptic promoting science and exposing quackery, and editor of Science-Based Medicine.” according to his Twitter bio
How about if she is a proven liar?
Does that carry any weight?
She claims she and her staff only wear surgical masks.
But here are two videos of her using at N95 surgical respirator:
https://youtu.be/pbNSHLVP4-o
https://www.facebook.com/100321995001608/videos/711397332961734/?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXDlnipBlUmczxs04pQfW3QsnhRieftXW5NPRtr6SSeW969Cafx9qzDLgS01d1Ew74WyQRy-wuFFnNL7eqUrLjeCWvsg4VmjNxbuRchzL_r9DFwNkYshD909zkfsWmxoPmypZMSfcCYokXoLQl4ePDeLTV8D-LFTwjr44SlmCS1yg
You really are desperate. How much money you loosing on this remdesivir crap, buddy?
So the rationale for choosing a treatment is now to ignore evidence of efficacy and choose based on what drug has the best low low price?
These doctors (it’s not just this one doctor whose religious/cultural beliefs you don’t share but are willing to attack as a substitute for actually looking into her claims) are telling you that they’ve seen the lower price drug is effective and you are choosing to ignore that because the bad orange man said nice things about their choice of treatment. By all means choose the more pricy drug because the orange man likes the cheaper one and so does one doctor whose religious/cultural beliefs sound bizarre to you. Just don’t expect everyone else to follow your unscientific lead.
I am not ignoring it. I am discussing it.
The only people ignoring anything are all the ones who refuse to look at the total weight of the evidence.
To you, this one person who is a proven liar by her own words and videos and FB page, outweighs all of the medical community around the world who have tried this drug, and moved on when it was found not to work.
Many thousands of people in many clinical trials conducted by doctors and using rigorous protocols to treat and keep track of patients.
Not one word in any of those trials needs to be taken on faith or trust.
I am not at all desperate, and why would I be?
I would be as happy as anyone if that drug or combo had proven to be a magic bullet against this virus.
It is all of the HCQ faithful who have no explanation for why it should work on this virus and this one alone, and only when it is given by people who offer no documentation.
“many clinical trials conducted by doctors and using rigorous protocols to treat and keep track of patients”
Like those trials in Brasil first and UK recently designed to overdose patients, that is, a conspiracy to commit murder directly and indirectly, with which the whole Medical Establishment is complicit by its silence?
Or the trials where patients did not all had confirmed Kung Flu?
You really are desperate.
No, I think desperation is attacking someone with ad hominem remarks instead of sticking to the issues at hand.
She plainly said she thinks no one needs to wear a mask.
Her own actions prove she does not really think that.
She claims she and her staff only ever use surgical masks, but in the Facebook video I just posted a link to, she is covered head to toe in a full body suit, rubber gloves, goggles, and an N95 surgical respirator.
She warns anyone coming to her clinic to avoid all contact with anyone not in their immediate household, and to be sure to wear a face covering before they enter her office.
As recently as April (and I think I saw one in which she was still saying that much more recently) she was an outspoken advocate of everyone wearing a mask.
These are points of factual variance of her past actions with her recent statement.
In this statement, she says that anyone who speaks of double blind clinical trials is a Nazi.
But the scientific standards we have developed for how to evaluate new drugs is exactly why we have effective and safe treatments for anything.
She states that doctors that speak of having evidence for the efficacy of the drugs they prescribe are not real doctors, and she says that she is a real doctor, implicitly saying this is because she requires no such proof of efficacy or standard of evidence.
Without objective standards, everyone would be at risk anytime they took any medicine for any condition…because all we would have is someone’s belief that the drugs is either safe OR effective.
In short, we would not have in place the system that has allowed life expectancies to grow ever longer, and for people to be on average far healthier than even in the time of our parents’ generation.
She seems to have a good reputation among patients, but relative to her bizarre beliefs that seem to be related to her religious bias, why would that discredit her as a physician? We have many health professionals who think that de-funding the police is a good idea, that systemic, hate based racism against any identity group other than white male Presidents exists, that open borders are a good idea, that CO2 is destroying the planet, and so on and so forth, all justified by their political bias alone. Why is this any better?
Yes, she is also an evangelical preacher, and that makes her an easy target for cancellation, though not as easy as if the spokesman were a white male like Harvey Risch. Her speech is an emotional rant, with almost Greta-like intensity, but based on clinical caregiving. Here is a post with a transcript of the main points, along with reports of HCQ saving lives elsewhere in Africa.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2020/07/28/hcq-works-she-knows-and-wont-shut-up/
Not as bizarre as promoting Recovery, the UK trial as an example of good science and something UK should be proud of, when it’s a conspiracy to k*ll paid for by Bill and Melinda Gates’s GAVI (the crazy vaccines promoters).
The whole world is bizarre.
Golly, son…it must suck to be you.
No such thing as doctors helping people…it is all conspiracies to kill people?
Gee, Dr. Fauci’s been wrong on major issues – the ‘experts’ seem to have done everything they can to worsen and prolong the effects of Covid – the least effective and most economically damaging policies possible.
But of course, HE’S not a nut.
Aristotle was big into Revelations, Einstein believed in God – I’m sure most modern progressives would reject them out of hand.
Almost as if it were a concerted, well planned effort to do exactly what it has done.
And during this particular election season, I don’t believe coincidence.
Once is happenstance, twice is operator error, 3rd time is enemy action.
We should be marching on Atlanta and the CDC to demand an investigation.
I would love it if someone besides progressive radicals started marching.
There seems to be a huge effort to destroy her, and that makes me suspicious. What’s embarrassing is accepting this massive reputation-destruction effort at face value. On a side note, I’m going to start referring to Facebook as “Fakebook”, and Twitter as simply “Twit”.
How about “In-Your-Facebook” since it has become an anti-social media platform.
Ron Clutz- How about combining Facebook and Twitter with Youtube.
“YouTwitFace”
Probably doing her a favor.
Medical malpractice lawsuit get expensive.
At This point she is ignoring best practice and established standard of care treatement.
That is malpractice in the world of medicine.
Making false claims about cures is illegal for several reasons and many statutes support preventing people from saying anything they want about medical efficacy.
It appears that many have never watched the entire presentation as I have including the second indoor session where many other Drs and scientists gave other presentations including one complicated scientific describing how the combination works, you need all three.
You need to spend 3 or more hours otherwise you are ignorant and uninformed as demonstrated by only making comments on one Doctor. Did you listen to all the presentations?
Another point, they only claim good results when administered early not when patients are in advanced stages like the VA and CDC feeble attempts. Numerous other doctors have reported good results with early treatment
The Drs involved are all front line treating patients day in and day out that are upset that bureaucrats are preventing them from using what they have found to work only if used early because they are saving lives
Part of the concern is the lies and distortions claiming side reactions that are totally false for a medication widely used for over 65 years without problems.
They fail to mention that this was widely given to our troops in Vietnam to avoid Malaria.
Why would they lie about side effects?
@ur momisugly Nicolas. Lots of opinion here and an attempt to shoot the messenger. One more fact is that of over 60,000 Italian folks with RA that that regularly take HCQ for that condition, none of them died from Wuhan during the pandemic and only 20 of them were positive to Wuhan. Don’t believe any of the studies and don’t even believe this “anecdotal” evidence but all others but “Nicolas” should once they acquire this virus check with your doctor on any viable treatments. Ignoring an early treatment for some especially older folks is a death sentence. Once a cytokine storm occurs things really get difficult. And the likelihood of side effects other than diarrhea and upset stomach from the French protocol are small. Chloroquine has been around for decades and Hydroxychloroquine is the preferred drug for this and has also been used by large numbers of people for a long time. My doctor knows my medical history and is quite willing to prescribe this protocol. He treats his RA patients with this drug and knows quite well what the effects might be.
“One more fact is that of over 60,000 Italian folks with RA that that regularly take HCQ for that condition, none of them died from Wuhan during the pandemic and only 20 of them were positive to Wuhan.”
This is false.
Assertions are not evidence, and this assertion, moreover, has been shown to be a complete fabrication.
There is a registry of people with rheumatoid diseases, and includes a large number of patients, some of whom were and some of whom were not taking HCQ prior to the outbreak.
A careful study has documented the disease progression in these patients, and found no benefit to having taken the malaria drug.
Here is the link to a registry of 600 patients with rheumatic disease who are infected.
45% wound up hospitalized, so far, and 9% are dead…so far.
There was no protective effect from being on HCQ when they got sick.
There were two groups that had a protective effect…those taking biologics, as they are called.
Anti-TNF drugs worked the best, they were protected, but only partially.
People taking anti-IL-6 drugs were also protected, but not as much.
https://ard.bmj.com/content/annrheumdis/79/7/859.full.pdf
Well of course it matters if she is right !! Don’t attack her personality. If she is correct, this is a life saving game changer. We need the patients she has cured, to speak up.
This is no secret, many doctors around the world are using this treatment. It’s western governments that are propagandizing a drug safely used for 50 years and rushing out now retracted studies about how it’s dangerous. One doctor in the UK even confused it with another drug and poisoned people with a misdose and then proceeded to get THAT paper published about how it was dangerous.
But in the post truth world there are no repercussions for being on the side of the truth over fact gang.
Agree
Actually it matters a LOT whether she’s right.
Beliefs on other subjects make no difference.
‘Paul’,
Are you calling this doctor a Liar? This is not a joke.
This Doctor is stood on the Congressional steps and stated that it is afact that people are dying in the US ….
Because the HCQ cocktail works and people are scared to use it or doctors cannot even use it because it is not available in their state or country because of Left Wing Lie or the Democratic Governor in their has told the doctors ….
Any doctor who uses the HCQ cocktail risks losing their license to practice medicine.
The lady Doctor who is standing on the Congressional steps, and has stated it is a clinical medical fact that the HCQ cocktail is both effective as a prophylactic and is effective to treat high risk covid patients.
She and her staff treated 350 high risk covid patients who were diabetic, obese, ashamatic, and so on and used the HCQ as a prophylactic to protect her staff.
Do you have a single fact, evidence, that supports you accusation? Do you?
If you do not then you are a liar. There can only be one liar.
Please immediately provide proof for you accusation.
It is a fact that are there Peer reviewed results, of a US test of the HCQ cocktail, with 2541 patients, in six Michigan hospitals..
The Michigan peer reviewed study supports what must logically be true. Medical science is logical and repeatable. The HCQ cocktail worked.
HCQ with azithromycin reduced deaths by 71% compared to no treatment.
The Michigan results could have been much better, as they waited no less than 48 hours before starting the HCQ cocktail treatment.
2500 patients treated with the HCQ cocktail no heart attacks. 6 Michigan hospitals.
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19
Results
Of 2,541 patients, with a median total hospitalization time of 6 days (IQR: 4-10 days), median age was 64 years (IQR:53-76 years), 51% male, 56% African American, with median time to follow-up of 28.5 days (IQR:3-53).
Lancet study which alleged HCQ is not effective against covid and kills people which CNN quoted on and on and on, was been removed.
The data base the Lancet ‘study’ was ‘based’ on is not accessible. Fake data is worse than a ‘mistake’ analyzing real data.
There should be a criminal investigation of both Lancet and the issues of the ‘Fake’ HCQ paper.
Look up Dr. Didier Raoult who also did an careful patient study using HCQ with very good results. Unless Youtube has removed his interview as well. Numerous US Doctors have used this treatment. It is a safe proven treatment for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus so it is not like it cannot be used very widely and safely. Talk to your doctor about it of course, but don’t let Dr. Fauci and the FDA stop an honest look at this “proven” (at least by a standard of success) drug.
Look up Dr. Didier Raoult who did a study with about 1500 patients with Wuhan. If he is still up on the web. Numerous US Dr.s have used the HCQ protocol successfully. Since HCQ is a well known and safely used drug for rheumatoid arthritis and lupus your Dr. can safely prescribe it for about anything. This lady Dr. successfully used it on 350 patients. In a crisis my only criteria is safety and success. This is it IMO.
Ok, I looked him up.
Here is the latest:
https://gizmodo.com/all-the-ways-the-influential-hydroxychloroquine-study-w-1844378680
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2020/07/19/hydroxychloroquine-europe-turns-away-from-doctor-who-championed-drug-with-irresponsible-study/
Here is a new peer review of the original paper that started all of this.
It is about the most complete repudiation I have ever seen in my life:
The conclusion about Raoult’s original study?
“Conclusion
This is a non-informative manuscript with gross methodological shortcomings. The results do not justify the far-reaching conclusions about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in Covid-19, and in the view of this reviewer do not justify any conclusion at all.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920302338#!
Thank you.
The Lancet and New England Journal rushed to publish that totally fake so-called study because it appeared to be a rebuke to Trump.The study was entirely bogus and fictional data presented by non-medical charlatans.
That is bad enough but the fact that these 2 so-called prestigious journals published the paper is even more scandalous and severely dented the reputation of those journals.They abused the basic principles of medical science in an egregious way.
There are ongoing studies into HCQ around the world.The jury is still out on its efficacy but it is a very safe drug compared to the vast numbers of other drugs in common use.
Her beliefs are cultural, there for you are attacking her culture for your own political purposes. Your attacks are racist and unacceptable, you can’t stand a women of color having a powerful message.
Totally agree! She is BATSHIT crazy! Here is some things she believes: “s
She claims that certain medical issues like endometriosis, cysts, infertility and impotence are the result of sex with “spirit husbands” and “spirit wives,” which Immanuel described as having sex in dreams with witches and demons.
“We call them all kinds of names —endometriosis, we call them molar pregnancies, we call them fibroids, we call them cysts, but most of them are evil deposits from the spirit husband,” she said.
Sorry this is junk comment. No link. Just make up hate.
The HCQ cocktail works. See Michigan study. Please get back to us.
HCQ with azithromycin reduced deaths by 71% compared to no treatment.
The Michigan results could have been much better, as they waited no less than 48 hours before starting the HCQ cocktail treatment.
2541 patients treated with the HCQ cocktail no heart attacks. 6 Michigan hospitals.
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19
How is it hate to pass along quotes from her, and to call crazy what it is?
You pass along plenty of your opinions while disparaging others who disagree.
That crap that was quoted is crazy talk.
Paul – Provide evidence!! Anyone can just say “she’s a nut” and it can be any level of baloney they choose. Provide evidence!! Without it, your statement is just a vile ad hominem. Now I don’t know the lady, but her statement deserves legitimate discussion no matter what, and the simple fact is that what she says has already been supported from a number of other sources (eg. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SesxgaPnpT6OfCYuaFSwXzDK4cDKMbivoALprcVFj48/mobilebasic). So your evidence had better be good. And BTW, don’t bother telling me that these people are nuts too, just argue the case.
True, but if she says what people want to hear, that’s good enough…I did read some of her other medical opinions…how some “diseases” are causes by evil spirits…Part Physician, part faith healer and part witch doctor…
What a crappy attitude you have. Some one presents a solution and you want to bad mouth them. That’s typical democratic way of handling something they have no negative facts they attack the person. Call her names and attack her character but what she said was right on. 500 we’re saved in Albany Ga. more would have been saved if they had more HCQ. There were 2034 affected. If fraudci hadn’t caused the non-use with his lies.
Dr. Rault of France saved 1061 before Europe shut it down.
And the press is already running hit pieces on her.
In that video Dr. Stella Immanuel touts treating COVID with hydroxychloroquine. We should also know she claims that endometriosis, impotence, and infertility are the result of having sex with “spirit husbands” or “spirit wives.” We should be skeptical of any of her medical claims.
What about all the doctors standing in back of her who support her? Not one hit piece bothered to interview the many men and women doctors seen in the background. Bernie, Fauci, and Feely Joe have made some of the whackiest comments imaginable, but they are not roundly comdemned.
That’s because the condemners are the ones controlling the narrative, and THOSE nuts are the ones supporting it.
What about all the ‘scientists’ whi stand with Michael Mann and co? Does that make Mann anything but the craven piece of work/nutjob catasrophist that many think he is?
A proposition using the uncertainty principle as a metaphor where instead of postion and truth being the uncertainty related parameters it is truth and broadcast quantity. i.e. if so called ‘social media’ can broadcast some Tweet, video or still picture to millions and millions, even billions, in minutes or hours then it is almost impossible for a community to form an accurate assessment of the truth or otherwise of the content. In reality such a mechanism is the perfect vector for ‘fake news’ whichever way it may be slanted. Do not kid yourself that fake news is a phenomenon confined to the left.
Yes, be skeptical. But also don’t fall for this modern day practice whereby if you find someone’s statement as disagreeable, then troll through their social media statements and find something else and use it out of context to attack the person and not the argument.
1. She’s a licensed doctor so she’s not stupid.
2. Hydroxychloroquine is $1.50/dose roughly and has side effects no worse than many OTC drugs.
3. Hydroxychloroquine treatment has enough evidence to indicate that it’s beneficial especially in the early stages of CoVid-19 infection.
4. Currently, even if an infected patient is treated with Hydroxychloroquine, they have to get the symptoms, get tested, get an appointment with a doctor and get a prescription. This takes days and can negate the effects of Hydroxychloroquine on the early stages of infection.
5. If the drug was available OTC, it’s side effects are less severe than other OTC medications like Paracetamol and Aspirin, what harm is there if it doesn’t work as well as anticipated? A person is out of pocket $30. On the upside, early treatment saves lives.
$2500/treatment with Remdesivir and the potential billions to be made from a possible vaccine buy a lot of influence, media persuasion and PR compared to an easily available drug costing $1.50 per dose.
Price of hydrocloraquin is
30 cents a dose. I use GoodRX, app has best price.
Price in India 3 Rupee (= $0.04US) per 200 mg tablet.
Absolutely cheap HCQ promotion.
Who are these Charlatans in white?
Just step out on an empty street in front of a few passants and play a “Press Conference”
LMAO
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-53574144
Also on OAN as of 7.30.20 am
https://www.oann.com/hydroxychloroquine/
Still available at Breibart https://www.breitbart.com
That video is not of the conference.
“Here is a version of the complete news conference still on YouTube as of this moment. I’ve cued it to Dr Immanuel’s speaking.”
Well that didn’t last long, clicked on the play button 1 minute after the posting on WUWT and it was pulled already.
Youtube and Facebook must have people there who are primed to jump on anything concerning the Wuhan virus. An alarm must go off in their office at any mention of the Chinese viirus.
In another office, sirens go off at the mention of Human-caused climate change.
They don’t want to waste any time in their censorship.
The arrogance of these people!
YouTube and Twitter tell us that “fake news” is real.
But I can’t see it.
(yuk, yuk)
My observation fits perfectly with my contention that YT, Twitter etc are avid adherents to the principles of that ancient Chinese philosopher –
Confuse-us
BertK,
FYI, it’s 10:28 am, Pacific, in my location and I was just able to see the entire segment cued up for viewing. Hope you are able to link to it elsewhere; the good doctor’s passion also makes this worth viewing. I especially love her reference to ‘if this is the hill I die on, so be it’ (paraphrased from my less than perfect memory.)
badEnglish
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8nXePkc9nPJn/?fbclid=IwAR3r3AZtszg-_ejbvKtE2vwa3cu2-cwOMEszish5D1UD3LgYwWVgyWF1QTo
Gone, has anyone posted it to video or liveleak?
Gone already. Here at the moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8rF_p0Lp0g
An overview here:
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/07/28/scrubbed-frontline-doctors-video-touting-cure-for-covid-19-challenging-cnn-hosts-fauci-to-pee-test-952439
Pulled already.
Never expected to live to see the day that the US was controlled by Thought Police.
Policing Thought is the main preoccupation of the Left. They have to police the thought, otherwise their political ideology could not survive the Light of Truth.
The Left is just one Big Lie. To succeed, they have to fool people into believing in False Realities and the way to do that is to control Thought by attacking anyone who does not adhere to their radical ideology..
“Policing Thought is the main preoccupation of the Right. They have to police the thought, otherwise their political ideology could not survive the Light of Truth.
The Right is just one Big Lie. To succeed, they have to fool people into believing in False Realities and the way to do that is to control Thought by attacking anyone who does not adhere to their radical ideology.”
“The broad masses of population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.”
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it and eventually they’ll believe.”
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”
“Policing Thought is the main preoccupation of the Right. They have to police the thought, otherwise their political ideology could not survive the Light of Truth. –Adolph Hitler: Socialist
“The broad masses of population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.” –Adolph Hitler: Socialist
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it and eventually they’ll believe.” –Joseph Goebbels: Socialist
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.” –Adolph Hitler: Socialist
“The broad masses of population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.” -Adolph Hitler, Socialist
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it and eventually they’ll believe.”-Adolph Hitler, Socialist
“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.” -Joseph Goebbels, Socialist
You epitomize your own posts.
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
I will bet you think that Democratic Republic of Korea is both a democracy and a republic.
I’ll bet you think the democrat party is democratic.
At least the Devil’s second-greatest trick was convincing the world HItler was right-wing – but academia helped a LOT.
The first ones sent to the camps were socialists.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
No – they came for potential rivals once they acquired power.
Jack, that was the Internationalist Socialists that the Nationalist Socialists came for first.
🙂
Does your head hurt when you do that Linda Blair imitation?
I wonder how many political rivals Xi Jinping has left?
And by the way – your Martin Niemöller quote is exactly the procedure the progressive/socialist left is following to a ‘t’.
Nice narrative.
BTW – You would have problems getting your Grade 12 diploma in Canada.
And since apparently everyone needs links to something these days:
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Socialist/progressive were the eugenics party. Margret Sanger was trying to eliminate black people, Woodrow Willson too. Until about 3 years ago both were still Hero’s of the progressive movement. Many of Hilters ideas about the races and eugenics came from the American left and weirdly also from Native American beleifs.
The American right believed in limited government and individual liberty. To claim Hilter has any connections To those beleif’s is ridiculous. Hilter’s economic ideals were much more aligned with ObAma’s, mega corporations controlled by elites that report to the dear leader, who makes sure they stay on top nice and rich and comfortable. Why do you think all the big elites pour money into the Democratic Party?
By the by the Nazi’s were also huge environmentalist, why do you think that was?
Nazi’s were all about control, as are socialist.
In a free market you can band together with a bunch of like minded people and have a mini socialist society, but in a socialist society you can not have a free market. Yet socialist can not stand for anyone to not live their way, why. Because they are frauds they are about power and only power. Everything is bent on maintaining that power. Nazi’s, communist’s, socialist’s and progressives all the same. You don’t matter, your free will doesn’t matter, the only thing that matters is their power and status.
It is illegal to make false claims about a drug or treatment.
Anyone with a belief cannot just get in front of a camera and say anything they want because they believe it.
She is claiming a cure.
That is not backed up by evidence.
If we allowed that sort of thing, anyone could make videos claiming ground up rhino horn or the toenails of virgin girls will cure cancer.
One cannot make such claim willy nilly.
People that do so are shut down every day.
The evidence from clinical trials is overwhelming.
HCQ does not help at any stage of infection, or as a prophylactic drug.
https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/
https://www.recoverytrial.net/news/low-cost-dexamethasone-reduces-death-by-up-to-one-third-in-hospitalised-patients-with-severe-respiratory-complications-of-covid-19
At this point there is a long and growing list of clinical trial data showing complete lack of efficacy.
Many results show it is harmful.
There are trials which used the z pak antibiotic and HCQ.
https://www.nejm.org/medical-articles/original-article
https://relief.unboundmedicine.com/relief/view/Coronavirus-Guidelines/2355000/all/Coronavirus_Disease_2019__COVID_19_
No efficacy.
There are ones using zinc and HCQ. Also vitamin C and HCQ…and zinc.
In patients with mild disease, who were not in a hospital setting:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-4207
No efficacy
For post exposure prophylaxis:
https://rheumnow.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-fails-postexposure-prophylaxis-covid-19
No efficacy.
There are many many studies with results published now…more every day for the past few weeks
If being hard headed would cure viral illnesses, we would have this one licked.
Transcript from rev.com
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/americas-frontline-doctors-scotus-press-conference-transcript
Partial transcript from press conference – Dr. Stella –
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (05:27)
Hello, I’m Dr. Stella Immanuel. I’m a primary care physician in Houston, Texas. I actually went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria, where I took care of malaria patients, treated them with hydroxychloroquine and stuff like that. So I’m actually used to these medications. I’m here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, old people … I think my oldest patient is 92 … 87 year olds. And the result has been the same. I put them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and they’re all well.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:12)
For the past few months, after taking care of over 350 patients, we’ve not lost one. Not a diabetic, not a somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody who asthma, not an old person. We’ve not lost one patient. And on top of that, I’ve put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for prevention, because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a prophylaxis. We see patients, 10 to 15 COVID patients, everyday. We give them breathing treatments. We only wear surgical mask. None of us has gotten sick. It works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:46)
So right now, I came here to Washington DC to say, America, nobody needs to die. The study that made me start using hydroxychloroquine was a study that they did under the NIH in 2005 that say it works. Recently, I was doing some research about a patient that had hiccups and I found out that they even did a recent study in the NIH, which is our National Institute … that is the National … NIH, what? National Institute of Health. They actually had a study and go look it up. Type hiccups and COVID, you will see it. They treated a patient that had hiccups with hydroxychloroquine and it proved that hiccups is a symptom of COVID. So if the NIH knows that treating the patient would hydroxychloroquine proves that hiccup is a symptom of COVID, then they definitely know the hydroxychloroquine works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (07:42)
I’m upset. Why I’m upset is that I see people that cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetic sit in my office knowing that this is a death sentence and they can’t breathe. And I hug them and I tell them, “It’s going to be okay. You’re going to live.” And we treat them and they leave. None has died. So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake pharma companies comes out say, “We’ve done studies and they found out that it doesn’t work.” I can tell you categorically it’s fixed science. I want to know who is sponsoring that study. I want to know who is behind it because there is no way I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead and they all did better.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:21)
I know you’re going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people, and it didn’t work. I’m a true testimony. So I came here to Washington DC to tell America nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure. It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax. I know you people want to talk about a mask. Hello? You don’t need mask. There is a cure. I know they don’t want to open schools. No, you don’t need people to be locked down. There is prevention and there is a cure.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:48)
And let me tell you something, all you fake doctors out there that tell me, “Yeah. I want a double blinded study.” I just tell you, quit sounding like a computer, double blinded, double blinded. I don’t know whether your chips are malfunctioning, but I’m a real doctor. I have radiologists, we have plastic surgeons, we have neurosurgeons, like Sanjay Gupta saying, “Yeah, it doesn’t work and it causes heart disease.” Let me ask you Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Hear me. Have you ever seen a COVID patient? Have you ever treated anybody with hydroxychloroquine and they died from heart disease? When you do, come and talk to me because I sit down in my clinic every day and I see these patients walk in everyday scared to death. I see people driving two, three hours to my clinic because some ER doctor is scared of the Texas board or they’re scared of something, and they will not prescribe medication to these people.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (09:35)
I tell all of you doctors that are sitting down and watching Americans die. You’re like the good Nazi … the good one, the good Germans that watched Jews get killed and you did not speak up. If they come after me, they threaten me. They’ve threatened to … I mean, I’ve gotten all kinds of threats. Or they’re going to report me to the bots. I say, you know what? I don’t care. I’m not going to let Americans die. And if this is the hill where I get nailed on, I will get nailed on it. I don’t care. You can report me to the bots, you can kill me, you can do whatever, but I’m not going to let Americans die.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (10:09)
And today I’m here to say it, that America, there is a cure for COVID. All this foolishness does not need to happen. There is a cure for COVID. There is a cure for COVID is called hydroxychloroquine. It’s called zinc. It’s called Zithromax. And it is time for the grassroots to wake up and say, “No, we’re not going to take this any longer. We’re not going to die.” Because let me tell you something, when somebody is dead, they are dead. They’re not coming back tomorrow to have an argument. They are not come back tomorrow to discuss the double blinded study and the data. All of you doctors that are waiting for data, if six months down the line you actually found out that this data shows that this medication works, how about your patients that have died? You want a double blinded study where people are dying? It’s unethical. So guys, we don’t need to die. There is a cure for COVID.
Simone Gold: (11:02)
My gosh. Dr. Immanuelle also known as warrior. Before I introduce the next guest, I just want to say that I wish all doctors that are listening to this bring that kind of passion to their patients. And the study that Dr. Immanuel was referring to is in Virology, which talks about a SARS viral epidemic that affects the lungs that came from China. And they didn’t know what would work. The study showed that chloroquine would work. It sounds exactly like it could have been written three months ago, but in fact, that’s study in Virology, which was published by the NIH, the National Institute of Health when Dr. Anthony Fauci was the director. Again, the official publication of the NIH, Virology, 15 years ago showed that chloroquine … we use hydroxychloroquine, it’s the same … little safer … works. They proved this 15 years ago when we got this novel coronavirus, which is not that novel, it’s 78% similar to the prior-
Simone Gold: (12:03)
… coronavirus, which is not that novel. It’s 78% similar to the prior version. The COV-1, not surprisingly. It works. I’m now going to introduce our next speaker. Sorry. I forgot to say your name. Sorry.
Dr. Dan Erickson: (12:12)
That’s all right. Dr. Dan Erickson, Dr. Gold asked me to talk about the lockdown, how effective they were and do that cause anything nonfinancial? They always talk about the financial, but you have to realize that lockdown, we haven’t taken a $21 trillion economy and locked it down. So when you lock it down, it causes public health issues. Our suicide hotlines are up 600%, our spousal abuse. Different areas of alcoholism are all on the rise. These are public health problems from a financial lockdown. So we have to be clear on that fact that there is, it’s not like you just lock it down and have consequences to people’s jobs. They also have consequences, health consequences at home. So we’re talking about having a little more of a measured approach, a consistent approach. If we have another spike coming in cold and flu season, let’s do something that’s sustainable.
I’m upset. Why I’m upset is that I see people that cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetic sit in my office knowing that this is a death sentence and they can’t breathe. And I hug them and I tell them, “It’s going to be okay. You’re going to live.” And we treat them and they leave. None has died.”
Thank you, Dr. Immanuel, for being there, and thinking clearly.. “It’s going to be okay” is just what one wants to hear in the doctor’s office.
I wonder how many people have had HCQ deliberately withheld from them for one reason or another? It’s a crime what the Left and the Leftwing Media have done to demonize this drug.
If that truly turns out to be the case – more than a hundred thousand dead…
I don’t think ‘upset’ is the word for it
God bless you Mary. Now it’s on WUWT in writing and the social media censors can’t take it down.
Dr. Stella Immanuel has made claims about what happened in her practice. She has records and they can be checked. Until someone proves otherwise, we have to assume she’s telling the truth. If the authorities want to call her a quack and a liar, the onus is on them to subpoena her records and interview the patients. I’d bet next month’s coffee money that’s not going to happen. They’re even not going to try because they know she’s telling the truth.
350 patients are hard to ignore, kinda like the bodies piled on the streets in Ecuador or the overwhelmed undertakers in Brazil. Some facts just shine through all the BS.
I saved the entire transcript from the 45 minute press conference, in case it is also censored from rev.com. Very informative to read what all the doctors had to say.
We seek out second and even third opinions on diagnosis, prognosis and treatment from doctors, when faced with other life changing health issues. My question is why is Covid any different? Why are these professional ‘second opinions’ on treatment being censored? I digress…
Per doctors, Only 200 mg twice a week for HCQ and daily zinc as prophylactic. This sounds like a game changer to me…. but FEAR IS POWER… just saying.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/americas-frontline-doctors-scotus-press-conference-transcript
Transcript portion Where Dr. Gold and another speak to dosage of HCQ for prophylaxis-
Speaker 8: (27:27)
And you guys also said that previous doctors have used it, but they’ve used it in the wrong dosage. So I keep hearing the drug, but then what is the right dosage. What is the right mixture?
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (27:39)
That you’re going to discuss with your doctor, but let [inaudible 00:03:43] take that.
Speaker 9: (27:45)
Yeah, that’s a great question. Because the whole political situation has driven the fear towards this drug. So let’s address that. This drug is super safe. It’s safer than aspirin, Motrin, Tylenol. It’s super safe. All right. So what the problem is in a lot of those studies, they did very, very high doses, massive doses all through the country. They did the remaps study, the solidarity trial. That was the world health organization trial, and also the recovery trial. They use 2,400 milligrams in the first day. ———-—All you need is 200 twice a week for prophylaxis. ———-They used massive toxic doses. And guess what they found out? When you use massive toxic doses, you get toxic results. The drug doesn’t work when you give toxic doses. It’s a very safe drug. It concentrates in the lungs, 200 to 700 times higher in the lungs.
Simone Gold: (29:15)
Yeah. I want to emphasize on something that Dr. [inaudible 00:29:20] just said, because I love the question. This is a treatment regimen that’s very simple, and it should be in the hands of the American people. The difficult aspect of this is that at the moment, because of politics, it’s being blocked from doctors prescribing it, and it’s being blocked from pharmacists releasing it. They’ve been empowered to overrule the doctor’s opinion. Why is this not over the counter? As you can get it in much of the world and almost all of Latin America, in Iran, in Indonesia, in Subsaharan Africa, you can just go and buy it yourself. ———-And the dose, my friends is 200 milligrams twice in a week and zinc daily. ———-That’s the dose. I’m in favor of it being over the counter. Give it to the people. Give it to the people.
Thanks for the transcript !
You mean she (the so-called nut) wasn’t the only frontline doctor recommending HCQ? Why does the media want people to die?
I just saw an interview with Dr. Simone Gold and she is quite believable. She is also a Lawyer and she does talk about how Dr. Fauci has known about the use of this medication since 2005 with the treatment for Sars 2, which is Covid 19. I know if I start feeling any of these symptoms of Covid 19, I will be asking for this treatment! They don’t want this used because we will not be as sick or need a vaccine! It’s all about the money!
Refer to Dr. Stella’s other inspiring vids, (/s) example:
https://youtu.be/RYwjA8ZDyCE
DMacKenzie: nice character assassination attempt. It would be far more refreshing if you refuted her evidence. But even then, notice that she wasn’t quoted in the posts above; these were other doctors addressing questions from journalists.
Not ONE troll here today has done anything else.
Todd, presenting perspective is not character assassination. I left the assessment up to those who wish to check themselves.
I don’t need to refute her claimed evidence, double blind studies have already done that, should you care to search.
How is linking to other videos she made in anyway a character assassination?
That would seem to be an admission that other things she said are a discredit to her.
He called them inspiring.
Is that an attack on character?
How about explain why those others do not matter and skip the ad homs aimed at the messenger?
She said she does not believe in masks.
But she is a mask advocate.
She and her staff wear n95 respirators, and in this video, she warns anyone coming to see her to wear a face covering, and stay away from anyone not part of that persons immediate household:
https://www.facebook.com/100321995001608/videos/711397332961734/?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXDlnipBlUmczxs04pQfW3QsnhRieftXW5NPRtr6SSeW969Cafx9qzDLgS01d1Ew74WyQRy-wuFFnNL7eqUrLjeCWvsg4VmjNxbuRchzL_r9DFwNkYshD909zkfsWmxoPmypZMSfcCYokXoLQl4ePDeLTV8D-LFTwjr44SlmCS1yg
Dan
Do you have a problem with powerful women of color? Why do you resort to attacking her cultural beliefs to try and discredit her?
Attacking the messenger when you can’t attack the message is a tactic that is as old as debate itself.
Bob,
Are you a leftist proponent of intersectional theory, white fragility, and/or equity theory?
Are you employed by the grievance industry?
Are you an anti-racism lecturer hauling down the big bucks for telling white people that everything wrong with the world is, always has been, and always will be, the fault of whiteness?
Or do you just admire their tactics and specific langauge and so adopt them when it suits you?
Or perhaps, Nicholas , he’s using their (your?) own tactics against them (you?) Hoist by their own petard.
What kind of person threatens a doctor who is successfully treating patients and saving their lives, just because they don’t want people to know that a particular drug regimen works?
Why are the social media companies supporting these threats by acting in concert to remove from their internet services reports and evidence that a drug regimen works. Not only removing but removing with unusual alacrity. I will emphasize that ALL of the social media companies in concert removing the reports in minutes: On whose bidding is this action being taken?
Follow the money. The big Dem contributors. Big Pharma.
Amen that. There is something EVIL going on. I took a few courses in psychology in college… one thing I never forgot was that “anger” is a strong motivating force. The MSM peddles in stoking hate and gaslighting. It’s a source of power for them. They and the Dem’s have mastered this power to sell out America for power. The Dem’s use the force of government to take from the coffers, promise it to good voters, by taking money from bad voters. The level of evil is at perhaps an all time high.
The fear attached to watching this video makes it feel like forbidden knowledge.
You can still find this in some places.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/
The Facebook is no forum for science .. just Luddites
Not Luddites; they’re far worse than that. First, they are censoring information that opposes their own agenda. Second, the consequences are, literally, life and death.
Too late – it’s gone 🙁
As of 8 am Central Time, the link to the 2 hr presentation works, but Youtube has pulled the headpost video.
The couple of minutes I’ve watched so far at the link looks to be the lead-in to a factual presentation by working physicians about hydroxychloroquine, it’s efficacy, and its use.
If such a video violates Youtube’s terms of service, then Youtube’s TOS are prejudicially biased. If the physicians’ presentations about HCQ efficacy are correct, then one may surmise that Youtube’s TOS will be in service to negligent homicide.
Why leave it on FB or YT – is there no alternative space in the cloud where the piece can reside without fear of it being pulled down? We know what kind of actors FB and YT are so why do people continue to patronize them – ie. Daily Wire, PragerU, Breitbart, TheBlaze, Crowder, Project Veritas, WUWT – is there no Conservative billionaire with wedding tackle large enough to step up and create a platform?
Bitchute
There is a link to the video on Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/
Its gone from utube
Censored by You Tube. They need to put it on BitChute.
It already is:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/F2MbeGcO2FrT/
All ready pulled. 🙁
Cue Henry in 3,2,1
Where are the double blind tests….
The video is here currently: https://youtu.be/bbmJOvXRtAA
And here: https://youtu.be/b-xVAT5ZCtM
YouTube actually purged it from my viewing history on mobile and desktop!
YouTube are also removing comments these days, even comments that simply state that YouTube has removed a comment!
This is very bad for social cohesion;-(
Those videos are not of the conference. The conference was indoors and lasted about 3 hours.
Removed by Youtube for violating their terms of service….
Well that was quick. They must have seek and destroy robots all primed to eliminate these ASAP. I found one and it quit midstream. Makes me double curious what’s so scary about these videos.
LOL. It’s been censored.
🤬 Bastards.
Wow, censorship ROCKS!!!! Remove everything that disagrees with leftist dogma. Next she will be attacked by media and Democrat politicians. I wonder how fast she will be fired from her current job?
It is still up on their own website, for the moment.
Full 3 hour video still available from the Americas Frontline Doctors link. It is worth the watch from the beginning since, as mentioned above, it lays out their argument quite nicely.
It’s on Bitchute here https://www.bitchute.com/video/aUNChgLotbPc/