Guest “set our people free!” by David Middleton
Shelter in place has been an EPIC FAIL…
‘Shocking’: 66% of new coronavirus patients in N.Y. stayed home: Cuomo
By DENIS SLATTERY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
MAY 06, 2020ALBANY — The majority of recently hospitalized coronavirus patients in New York are people who have followed the precaution of staying home, Gov. Cuomo said Wednesday.
The governor said it was “shocking” that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis.
[…]
“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” Cuomo said during a briefing on Long Island. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”
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NY Daily News
Apparently, shelter in place just “fattened” the curve. Now… let’s flatten the hell out of this curve…
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When things were uncertain, the Doomsday Prophets predicted, unsurprisingly, that Doom was coming for us all. At first, this appeared reasonable to people who were afraid of the unknown, and many of these Prophets came bearing great and terrible Models, relics and artifacts said to grant sight into the future.
And then none of the Doomsday prophecies came true. The relics failed catastrophically and their makers were quick to say “Yeah, we’ve known all along that models don’t predict the future. They’re very bad at predictions. They’re just useful at guiding policy.”
One of the great Mantras of the Prophets of Doom was “flatten the curve”. Again, this seemed reasonable to most at the beginning, because they were shown mystical graphs without units on the axes, and were told that without “flattening”, hospitals would be overwhelmed like that one hospital in northern Italy that gets overwhelmed every bad flu season (and which was shown multiple times as if it were in New York). Millions would die!
And then nothing happened. The hospitals weren’t overwhelmed anywhere. Many hospitals never saw a single case. Temporary hospitals set up for the inevitable surge saw nothing.
Predictably, the Prophets of Doom have not admitted any errors. They “miscalculated”, sure, but “just wait two more weeks”. “Two more weeks” is the latest mantra as “flatten the curve” is no longer spoken, as it is embarrassing.
The latest uttering of the Prophets is that any lessening of the restrictions (which New York’s data in the OP demonstrates failed catastrophically in their purpose) will cause the dreaded Second Wave. And while predictions of the first wave were overblown to the stratosphere, we are assured the Second Wave predictions are accurate. And if you disagree with them for any reason, it’s because you are “lacking compassion” and you want “grandma to die”. Prophets aren’t scientists, even if they play dress up sometimes. And Prophecy isn’t science, as such responses demonstrate.
I think it’s about time we bring back the old Hebrew method of dealing with false prophets. I now understand exactly why they had it.
So, the report is cases, not deaths. Right? Anything to do with testing? Rhetorical Q.
Maybe all our general population measures are marginal, each one in succession ever more marginal? Another rhetorical Q. I wonder if more specific targeting of resultant death would be more effective than ever increasing, diminishing returns, and actual limitations on effectiveness of restrictions on an entire population?
About some prior comments, 0.0001 or whatever it is, is good. Is there some kink of constitutional amendment mandating a complete zero – a right to be free of COVID-19? If I do nothing but try to protect myself in ways that I judge to be worth it, does that then make me responsible for the deaths in the nursing home across town? Or is it the disease? And haven’t I done my part anyway by taking some measures to protect myself? You do not have any such thing as a silver bullet in any of your policy preferences.
“The Prime Minister is like a man who sets fire to his own pajamas, while he is wearing them, to cure himself of hiccups. Now he stands naked and scorched, as his house burns around him”
PETER HITCHENS: Has our mad mass house arrest during Covid-19 saved even a single life? – Mail Online – Peter Hitchens blog
Why haven’t the government recommended to everyone to reduce the underlying conditions as much as possible by: losing weight, eating properly to reduce inflammation. Take zinc, vitamin D, elderberry, maybe qurecetin, etc. ie; cheap solutions that would probably get excellent overall results.
Is it sacrilegious to tell people to keep their immune system strong and get their health up?
Yes, why haven’t they?
“Take zinc, vitamin D, elderberry, maybe qurecetin”
It’s somewhat funny to read repeatably these claims on a website that doesn’t believe in its majority that there is an easy control knob like CO2 on the climate.
It should be obvious there is no such thing for health either. Biology is at least as complex as the climate. That is where side effects are coming from.
Ron
I’m afraid I have to agree with you.
On the curative side
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-HIV-drug-seems-to-successfully-treat-coronavirus-patients-in-Congo-627197
Great. HCQ in the beginning and Gammora for critical cases.
Very questionable. Mode of action of Gamorra is against viral DNA integration into human genome. SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t use this strategy at all. RNA virus without reverse transcriptase or integrase funtion.
Seriously, if the conservative electorate relies in large part to people in nursing homes, then conservatives should consider how they became soooo unlikable by young people.
I have some ideas.
Having endured multiple colleges, I have a pretty good idea of why conservatives are unliked by young people. Peer pressure and intimidation by authority figures are both very effective ways to spread ideology.
Also, pseudo conservative pseudo small gov libertarialism or Faux News style right wingism, where anything vaccine related, and vaccine pushing from the gov is worshiped, is VERY unattractive, both on practical, theoretic, philosophical and moral grounds.
Also, both Faux News and most well known libertarians come up as pretty conformist and unintelligent people.
It was the first day of the lockdown in OH when I tried to tell people that isolating the at-risk people was the only reasonable solution. I’m a conspiracy nut and was saying this all a plan to enable a NWO police state. The selection-bias with the self-selecting “worst patients” made my stats feelers tingle