Liz Warren Explains Why She Believes Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal Doesn’t Go Far Enough

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February 21, 2020 10:32 AM ET

Democratic 2020 candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren said at a CNN town hall Thursday that the so-called Green New Deal is not a sufficient policy to tackle what she believes is the biggest problem facing the world.

Americans need to focus on pushing the envelope further than what Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was willing to do when she proposed the GND, according to Warren. The Massachusetts Democrat has expressed support for the legislation in the past.

“What I want to see us do is get off an oil economy and not only for ourselves, but for the rest of the world,” Warren, a Democrat, said as she explained why the GND does not go far enough to prevent climate change.

She added: “I want to see us move entirely to green. And let me say on this, I not only support a Green New Deal, I don’t think it goes far enough. I also have a Blue New Deal, because we’ve got to be thinking about our oceans as well that we need to protect.”

WATCH:

The resolution, among other things, calls for “10-year national mobilizations” toward a series of goals aimed at fighting global warming. A separate fact sheet claims the plan would “mobilize every aspect of American society on a scale not seen since World War 2.””It seeks to nix oil production outright.

Recent reports suggest the GND could cost tens of trillions of dollars. Americans could be forced to pay up to $93 trillion to implement the proposal over a decade, the conservative-leaning American Action Forum (AAF) noted in a study in February.

Still, Warren is moving forward on lofty plans to wallop the industry. (RELATED: Liz Warren Pushes Bill Imposing Green New Deal Climate Goals On The US Military)

She is also supporting a ban on hydraulic fracturing, a method of drilling that involves spraying high pressure water and sand underground to make tiny fractures in rock to release gas, which can then be liquified. She proposed a plan in June 2019 to spend $2 trillion over a decade to create one million green jobs.

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Dan Sudlik
February 22, 2020 2:06 pm

Pochahantus says give me your money and I will save the world. What’s not to believe.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
February 22, 2020 4:11 pm

Fauxcahontas. Still hasn’t repaid her college fees, AFAIK.

Greg
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
February 22, 2020 4:29 pm

Doesn’t sound like she even went to college.

” to spend $2 trillion over a decade to create one million green jobs.”

That’s 2 million dollars per job created.

If it costs that much to create just ONE job, there has to be some badly wrong with the way you are trying to do it. Without asking embarrassing questions about who is going to create that money in the first place.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Greg
February 22, 2020 4:45 pm

Not to mention the jobs lost along the way.

Gordon Dressler
Reply to  Greg
February 22, 2020 4:46 pm

Doesn’t sound like she (or her publicists/followers) even went to high school.

To wit: “She is also supporting a ban on hydraulic fracturing, a method of drilling that involves spraying high pressure water and sand underground to make tiny fractures in rock to release gas.”

“Spraying”? You say “spraying”? You think “spraying” fluids creates hydraulic pressures that fracture large volumes of semi-porous ROCK located several thousand to maybe several tens of thousands of feet below the surface?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
February 23, 2020 11:46 am

She took a subsidised Native American place while being less native than the average Yank. AFAIK

Ken
Reply to  Greg
February 23, 2020 6:16 am

A trillion here, a trillion there, …

How many beans must each unicorn eat to produce the amount of green energy needed to support the GND Plan?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Ken
February 23, 2020 9:33 am

Unicorns don’t eat beans, silly. They eat hopes and dreams.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Ken
February 23, 2020 9:52 am

She added: “I want to see us move entirely to Unicorn farts. And let me say on this, I not only support a UNICORN FART NEW DEAL, I don’t think it goes far enough. I also have a RAINBOW NEW DEAL, because we’ve got to be thinking about our oceans as well that we need to protect.”

There, fixed it!

I translated part of here socialist ramblings aka Liberalese, for you Ken. They are going to fix the world with Rainbows and Unicorn Farts even if it takes all or your money and my money to try.

GeoffM
Reply to  Greg
February 23, 2020 9:25 am

There is a not-yet-built UK green energy scheme which, according to the developers own figures and mentioned in my local papers, is approx £50 million per permanent job, so $2 million is actually good.

Ian E
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
February 23, 2020 12:48 am

And, at 2 trillion dollars for a million jobs, that is 2 million dollars per job – probably more than any of those jobs will produce in lifetime salary, let alone tax!

David Thompson
Reply to  Ian E
February 23, 2020 5:28 am

20 jobs created per 2 million, 19 jobs destroyed. Net 1.

MarkW
Reply to  David Thompson
February 23, 2020 1:41 pm

More like, 1 job created, 20 destroyed.

Goldrider
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
February 23, 2020 7:20 am

“Show me da nuclear wessels . . . ” 😉

KaliforniaKook
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
February 23, 2020 1:03 pm

That name that tribe comes from doesn’t accept her. I believe she’s from the Imaho tribe. They spawned many politicians.

KaliforniaKook
Reply to  KaliforniaKook
February 23, 2020 1:04 pm

I have to go back to school for remedial English. Let me try that sentence again: “The tribe that name comes from…”

Shoki Kaneda
February 22, 2020 2:07 pm

No planes, no cars, no ships, the only trade is what you can carry on your back to market because livestock fart methane. Of course, there will be exceptions for the leaders because they have to lead, don’t you know.

Kamikazedave
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
February 22, 2020 4:29 pm

They have to lead. Plus every now and then she likes a great big thick juicy delmonico, just dripping with blood!

Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
February 23, 2020 2:32 am

When I started writing my current series of papers in 2019, almost nobody believed that the political situation could be as extreme as I then stated. Our core debate was still a scientific argument about the magnitude of climate sensitivity, and the skeptics kept repeating – correctly – that the alarmists’ estimates of climate sensitivity were far too high, and there was no real global warming crisis.

The reality is that the extremists’ argument was never really about the climate – their climate argument was always a false narrative, a smokescreen for their true objective – their use of the false climate scare was always political, not scientific, and was intended to achieve totalitarian control.

When I stated as early as 2012 – correctly – that the alarmists had a covert agenda and that nobody, not even the alarmists, could be this stupid for this long, my statement was initially rejected as extreme, even by many climate skeptics. However, the alarmists have recently proved me correct.

Since ~late-2019, the climate extremists have engaged in a bidding war to see who could propose the most costly and ineffective “energy” programs to destroy the economies of the Western democracies. For a while, the winner was “carbon-free by 2050”, as adopted by the leftists in the USA, Canada, Britain and elsewhere.

Recently, the Democrats in the USA have doubled-down, advocating even more extreme measures, to destroy their energy systems even sooner.

When I first started studying this subject in ~1985, I knew the alarmists’ argument was false. Like many scientists, I assumed the alarmists were simply technically wrong. It is now obvious that they knew from the beginning that their entire narrative was technically false. Still, with huge financing from largely unknown sources they have managed to deceive the public – wolves stampeding the sheep on the way to slaughter.

By now, even the most stupid of the global warming/climate change acolytes should realize something is amiss. Maybe, maybe not.

As Einstein said, “Nothing is infinite except the universe and humans stupidity, and I‘m not sure about the universe.”
_______________________________________

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 2:50 am

PUBLICATIONS

THE CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING (CAGW) AND THE HUMANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE CRISES ARE PROVED FALSE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng., January 10, 2020
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/the-catastrophic-anthropogenic-global-warming-cagw-and-the-humanmade-climate-change-crises-are-proved-false.pdf

THE REAL CLIMATE CRISIS IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING, IT IS COOLING, AND IT MAY HAVE ALREADY STARTED
By Allan M.R. MacRae and Joseph D’Aleo, October 27, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/27/the-real-climate-crisis-is-not-global-warming-it-is-cooling-and-it-may-have-already-started/

THE LIBERALS’ COVERT GREEN PLAN FOR CANADA – POVERTY AND DICTATORSHIP
by Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., October 1, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/01/the-liberals-covert-green-plan-for-canada-poverty-and-dictatorship/

THE RADICAL GREEN ROAD TO VENEZUELA – POVERTY, MISERY AND DICTATORSHIP
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., September 20, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/20/the-radical-green-road-to-venezuela-poverty-misery-and-dictatorship/

THE NEXT GREAT EXTINCTION EVENT WILL NOT BE GLOBAL WARMING – IT WILL BE GLOBAL COOLING
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., September 1, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/01/the-next-great-extinction-event-will-not-be-global-warming-it-will-be-global-cooling/

WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS REALLY ABOUT — AND IT’S NOT THE CLIMATE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., July 19, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/

THE COST TO SOCIETY OF RADICAL ENVIRONMENTALISM
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., July 4, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/04/the-cost-to-society-of-radical-environmentalism/

CO2, GLOBAL WARMING, CLIMATE AND ENERGY
by Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., June 15, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/15/co2-global-warming-climate-and-energy-2/
Excel: https://wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Rev_CO2-Global-Warming-Climate-and-Energy-June2019-FINAL.xlsx

SCIENCE’S UNTOLD SCANDAL: THE LOCKSTEP MARCH OF PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES TO PROMOTE CLIMATE CHANGE
By Tom Harris and Dr. Jay Lehr, May 24, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/25/sciences-untold-scandal-the-lockstep-march-of-professional-societies-to-promote-the-climate-change-scare/

HYPOTHESIS: RADICAL GREENS ARE THE GREAT KILLERS OF OUR AGE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., April 14, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/

COLD WEATHER KILLS 20 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE AS HOT WEATHER
by Joseph d’Aleo and Allan MacRae, September 4, 2015
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf

PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE SUGGESTING TEMPERATURE DRIVES ATMOSPHERIC CO2 MORE THAN CO2 DRIVES TEMPERATURE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, June 13, 2015
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/06/13/presentation-of-evidence-suggesting-temperature-drives-atmospheric-co2-more-than-co2-drives-temperature/

CARBON DIOXIDE IS NOT THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING, THE FUTURE CAN NOT CAUSE THE PAST
By Allan M.R. MacRae, January 2008
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRae.pdf
Excel: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRaeFig5b.xls

DEBATE ON THE KYOTO ACCORD,
Published by APEGA in the PEGG, reprinted by other professional journals, The Globe and Mail and La Presse,
by Sallie Baliunas, Tim Patterson and Allan MacRae, November 2002
http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/KyotoAPEGA2002REV1.pdf

D. Boss
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 5:08 am

I’d paraphrase it: “Nothing is infinite except the Universe, and human’s capacity for self delusion. I’m not sure about the Universe.”

The army of useful idiots could be considered stupid. But the hordes of technically and scientifically trained who “believe” are more likely delusional.

Not only delusional, but also another impediment to accepting that the Climate Conjecture is false: If you have spent a lot of time and other people’s money promoting something which turns out to be false – what happens to your job, your ego, your reputation and everything you base your self worth upon?

That is often the hardest hurdle to overcome for someone doing part or all of a lifetime going down the wrong path.

So one maintains one’s self delusion as to admit some doubt would appear to be akin to suicide, mentally and emotionally at least.

To be sure the root of this Climate Cult is pure evil as Mr MacRae has detailed, but the soldiers and the lieutenants and captains and even colonels may not realize they are serving that evil purpose.

With apologies to Elvis (in the subconscious of the Climate Cult officers):

I’m caught in a trap…
I can’t walk out….
Because I’ve fudged the data, baby…

Why can’t they see…
What it’s doing to me…
When they don’t believe a word I say…

We can’t go on like this…

Reply to  D. Boss
February 23, 2020 6:55 am

Boss:

Two points:

1. The leaders of this scam are not delusional – they have known from the beginning that they were lying; that they were the wolves stampeding the sheep. For proof, see
http://www.green-agenda.com

2. Never correct Albert Einstein. That is a bad idea. Some of my older friends knew him at Princeton. Rumor has it that he was smart. Really smart!

Regards, Allan

Goldrider
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 7:26 am

The delusion is a willful one; to claim membership in the upper middle, college-educated class, you must espouse belief in CAGW. Even if you don’t believe it. I’d hazard a guess that 99.97% of the public has never been interested enough to read the science. But social climbers have to check the proper boxes . . .

I have taken to shocking (SHOCKING!!) acquaintences by saying, “Oh STOP repeating that happy horsesh*t, it makes you look STUPID!”

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 9:37 am

” Never correct Albert Einstein. That is a bad idea. Some of my older friends knew him at Princeton. Rumor has it that he was smart. Really smart!”

Holding him up as some sort of icon is a bad idea as well.

I disagree with his quote on insanity: “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity”

I think it’s the definition of stupidity, not insanity.

David Blenkinsop
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 10:10 am

Generally, people are *very* sheeplike, and engage in wishful thinking too, even ones who are ostensibly quite smart and knowledgeable, experts even. I recently had a face to face discussion/argument with a fellow near my own age, someone who has been directly involved in certain kinds of resource developments, coal mining, etc. I made the point to him, innocently thinking that he would agree with me, that it’s a shame that Boris Johnson’s government over in Britain is scheduling the banning of regular fuel burning vehicles (including the hybrids that were supposed to be eco-friendly) in favour of having to run everything off of batteries.

As it turns out, my interlocutor is what I might call a kind of “worshipper” of Elon Musk, and thinks it is some kind of benefit overall, if everyone could be persuaded ‘voluntarily’, to run vehicles off of obviously cheaper electric power. Futurologically speaking, for instance, he expects that eventually truckers will willingly pick Musk’s “battery pack” trucks over diesel ones, since Musk says it will be much cheaper to plug in.

On a slightly different topic, many years ago when I was a much younger man, I was a big fan of Solar Power Satellites for supplying the world’s electricity. I trusted advocates like Gerard K. O’Neill, say, to tell me that outer space operating costs could soon go so low that those things could ever compete with what we can do on the ground? Faith in lots of batteries doesn’t seem to me much better than that, but then, hey what do I know, maybe I’m just not starry-eyed enough these days.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 12:22 pm

Jeff Alberts:
Einstein actually said something different – not quite the same as you quoted:

“The true definition of madness is repeating the same action, over and over, hoping for a different result.”

Works for me.

https://www.azquotes.com/author/4399-Albert_Einstein

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

“I think 99 times and find nothing. I stop thinking, swim in the silence, and the truth comes to me.”

“Everyone has two choices. We’re either full of love… or full of fear.”

“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.”

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 2:40 pm

“The true definition of madness is repeating the same action, over and over, hoping for a different result.”

Allan, I don’t see a real difference. I still see it as stupidity, not insanity, or, if you prefer, madness, same thing.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 23, 2020 6:46 am

I am right there with you Allan.
You have been in front of this all along.

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
February 23, 2020 7:09 am

Thank you Nicholas,

I started studying this subject in ~1985 and co-authored my first paper in 2002. I wrote my concerns about the warmists’ covert agenda circa 2012, possibly earlier. It should have been earlier, but I was one of those naive scientific professionals who actually believed that most global warming alarmist scientists were honest, albeit mistaken.

The evidence suggests that this cannot be true – the conduct of the warmists has been reprehensible from the beginning – their vilification of climate skeptics and the Climategate emails proved their deceit, and it keeps getting worse and worse. They are responsible for the squandering of trillions of dollars and the destruction of millions of lives. They belong in jail for fraud, murder and treason.

Damon Fields
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
February 25, 2020 10:03 am

Climate realists know as we are putting more carbon and methane in the air and oceans year after year, the world temperature goes up and the oceans acidify, like they are presently doing. No need to look down the road on this. And at a rate of increase unprecedented in thousands of years. If a persons reads the facts/scientific measures in our present world and past tree rings and ice cores. But fossil fuel and corporate interests don’t want us to face this reality of 2020 as it is not in their financial interests. If we keep adding and adding carbon in only makes logical sense that our global temperatures will not stay the same but increase as it has since the 1950s. This is not technically wrong, it’s factually right. Sad that this “most watched climate change website” is so one sided and skewed, which explains how the fossil fuel industry keeps putting our “fake” news/facts and so many believe them.

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
February 23, 2020 12:06 pm

But never by example.

We should insist that any of these politicians and their camp followers act as a trial group to show that their ideas do work. The trials would never occur.

SMC
February 22, 2020 2:09 pm

Senator Pocahontas isn’t going to win the nomination. She’ll go back to Massachusetts soon and continue to serve the Massachusetts Communist Party (MCP).

commieBob
Reply to  SMC
February 22, 2020 3:48 pm

I wouldn’t say she has zero chance but she’s way behind in the polls. link Does she think, if she does something crazy and desperate, she can catch up? Maybe. Candidates get trapped in their own silos and are thereby misled.

My guess is that she’s pushing an agenda or jockeying for position after Bernie eventually wins. And, no, I’m not willing to bet money on that.

MarkW
Reply to  commieBob
February 22, 2020 9:42 pm

I’m pretty certain the Democrats will give an obscure cabinet post just to keep her out of the public eye. Maybe ambassador to Iceland, or better yet, Greenland ;*)

commieBob
Reply to  MarkW
February 22, 2020 11:38 pm

That would be one benefit of a Democrat win. I fervently hope that doesn’t happen.

PlainBill
February 22, 2020 2:12 pm

And with absolutely no mention of nuclear power generation, so I cannot in good conscience take her seriously.

Tim Crome
February 22, 2020 2:13 pm

Who will now say that Warren doesn’t go far enough?

It’s a never ending spiral!

Franz Dullaart
Reply to  Tim Crome
February 22, 2020 8:36 pm

Everything you can do I can do greener!
I can do everything greener than you!

Politicians competing.

Dodgy Geezer
February 22, 2020 2:16 pm

I have seen recent comment about a social phenomena called a ‘Purity Spiral’.

Apparently, in any group of activists, the one who becomes ‘top dog’ is the one who promises to go furthest in pursuit of their activist goals. Consequently, a bidding war starts as candidates for the top position vie for position. Much like a poker game, each candidate raises the stakes, until they become absurd.

We are now past absurd, and into truly dangerous. And still the bidding war continues…

MarkW
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 22, 2020 2:48 pm

“until they become absurd”

They started at ubsurd.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
February 23, 2020 3:49 am

talk about digging a deeper hole;-)
be nice if the power co etc cut all her services immediately so she can experience the reality of what she’d impose on others

Bill
February 22, 2020 2:16 pm

I propose the Red New Deal whereby we slaughter all these maniacs in the streets ala Mussolini before they destroy everything.
Fortunately I doubt it will come to that as several elections have been won against these totalitarian scum and I cant see them beating the Donald….I can see them cheating an election win though…

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Bill
February 22, 2020 5:16 pm

Mods,
A snip and a ban???

John Dilks
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 22, 2020 8:18 pm

Joel O’Bryan
February 22, 2020 at 5:16 pm
“Mods,
A snip and a ban???”

You really don’t understand freedom of speech, do you? You also have problems with sarcasm. Please practice your “Control” issues in the privacy of your home, on your own family.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  John Dilks
February 23, 2020 8:10 am

– – winking smiley face – – Poe’s Law

John Tillman
February 22, 2020 2:21 pm

4caster
February 22, 2020 2:23 pm

And with the previous thread about the UK banning household coal and some wood, media obsession, and educational indoctrination, how can it not be abundantly clear that this Climate Emergency (TM) “movement” is gathering significant momentum? If we as a society do not want to be paying double, triple, or more for energy, food, and especially all things fossil fuel-related, we had better start coming together to combat this “movement.” Otherwise, I foresee this taxing/wasted spending/ banning “movement” steamrolling Western society and playing out over many, many decades. And, once taxes are levied, they are rarely rescinded. And, once quality of life regresses and our freedoms and liberties are reduced or even taken away, it’ll be very hard to restore the way of life we have known in Western society for a few hundred years. How can we combat this movement? Start protesting at the U.N.? Writing/contacting legislators has not worked. After Donald Trump is no longer President in 1 or 5 years, I shudder to think how quickly this “movement” will negatively change our lives and reduce our already-shrinking liberties, even if he does manage to replace a Supreme Court pick or even two.

commieBob
Reply to  4caster
February 22, 2020 4:28 pm

… once taxes are levied, they are rarely rescinded.

Income taxes have come way down during my lifetime. In the 50s, the marginal tax rate exceeded 90%.

Today the tax brackets are adjusted for inflation, but are exceptionally lower than in Eisenhower’s day. The top rate in 2015 is 39.6 percent, … link

Michael Ozanne
Reply to  commieBob
February 23, 2020 5:59 am
commieBob
Reply to  Michael Ozanne
February 23, 2020 8:04 am

The Beatles had something to say about that. Taxman

Should five percent appear too small, be thankful I don’t take it all.

Michael Ozanne
Reply to  commieBob
February 23, 2020 3:21 pm
February 22, 2020 2:26 pm

It’s the climate vote game in politics just as it is the climate marketing game in business.

Latitude
February 22, 2020 2:28 pm

“What I want to see us do is get off an oil economy and not only for ourselves, but for the rest of the world,”

China’s reply: pound sand

Pat
Reply to  Latitude
February 22, 2020 8:04 pm

China’s reply; funny stupid person this Warren

Barnes Moore
Reply to  Latitude
February 23, 2020 5:46 am

China’s reply – “go for it”. While Trump has been criticized for calling AGW a Russian/Chinese hoax, it is actually irrelevant if either started the hoax or not. If the dems get control and actually execute even a small part of any version of the GND, they are playing directly into the hands of Russia and China – both would love to see us cripple our economy via these idiotic policies.

u.k.(us)
February 22, 2020 2:33 pm

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Especially, if you don’t have the right tools at hand.

Editor
February 22, 2020 2:35 pm
Rod Evans
February 22, 2020 2:36 pm

Keep feeding them the rope.

Scissor
February 22, 2020 2:44 pm

“She is also supporting a ban on hydraulic fracturing, a method of drilling that involves spraying high pressure water and sand underground to make tiny fractures in rock to release gas, which can then be liquified. She proposed a plan in June 2019 to spend $2 trillion over a decade to create one million green jobs.”

Wow, that tech writer is really smart. /s

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Scissor
February 22, 2020 2:53 pm

Come on. That’s only $2 million per job created. Perfect socialist mathematics! What’s not to like? After all, it’s only Other People’s Money, and there’s always more of that.

Isn’t there?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
February 22, 2020 4:13 pm

Bargain. Leftards find math. hard, to be fair…..

Barnes Moore
Reply to  Scissor
February 23, 2020 5:52 am

Where do I apply for one of those jobs?

George Daddis
February 22, 2020 2:50 pm

“….but also for the rest of the world”.
The largest portion of the “rest of the world” with respect to emissions are India and China.

Before anyone agrees to destroy our economy to benefit the “rest of the world” I’d expect them to participate in CO2 reductions.

As it stands we could go immediately to zero emissions, wreck our country, and it would not have a significant impact on the catastrophes the IPCC claims, using their own math.

Reply to  George Daddis
February 22, 2020 4:00 pm

Maybe Libbie has a plan to conquer China and India to bring them into compliance?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
February 22, 2020 4:14 pm

Demonrats love enslaving people…..

RLu
Reply to  George Daddis
February 23, 2020 9:52 am

That part is easy.
Bomb the harbours along the Persian Gulf, in Australia and Nigeria. It will be instantly economical to use ‘unreliables’ to alleviate shortages.

China will of course react the same as Japan, 80 years ago. They will solve the homeless problem in Seattle, SF and LA with nukes. And the world will be back in an agrarian society, just like the commies /said/ they want.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  RLu
February 23, 2020 11:50 am

Why I live away from cities and out of line of sight. Plus Warner Acres makes my heart sing.

RStabb
February 22, 2020 2:51 pm

Climatards R US.

February 22, 2020 2:56 pm

Total OT here, but…
In one of the last week articles here someone asked about the 2012 Arctic temperatures at DMI.
My question there stayed without an answer, but the temperatures are now back again.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Retired_Engineer_Jim
February 22, 2020 3:38 pm

Another OT here:

At ~12:25 PM today (PST), there was a report that the 710 Freeway was blocked by an overturned coal truck!! Coal in SoCal!! I guess they didn’t get the memo from either Jerry or Gavin – how can we save the world?

However, I expect that the copy-writer got it wrong, and the newsreader read it as written. Why would there be a truck full of coal in Southern California?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
February 22, 2020 4:47 pm

Was a medical truck full of brain donors.

yirgach
February 22, 2020 3:40 pm

“10-year national mobilizations”

Forward Soviet!
Bernie will be so PO’d.

Meanwhile, Mini-Mike is courting the Hildabeast and then will hand over the nomination to her after he buys the convention.

Gary
February 22, 2020 3:59 pm

Hard to believe anybody could be stupider than AOC, but there it is.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Gary
February 22, 2020 4:16 pm

We have a Ms Butler MP, seems to be thicker than the Abbopotomus which is going some.

KT66
Reply to  Gary
February 22, 2020 4:17 pm

And this women is a university professor!

R2Dtoo
Reply to  KT66
February 23, 2020 7:26 am

Not really – she works at Harvard.

Ian Coleman
February 22, 2020 4:14 pm

Like John F. Kennedy, Senator Warren dreams of things that never were and asks, why not? Unfortunately there are reasons why not, and good intentions do not make banish the reasons.

Tom
Reply to  Ian Coleman
February 22, 2020 6:19 pm

Bobby Kennedy said that, not John.

Gordon Dressler
February 22, 2020 4:31 pm

If Elizabeth Warren truly believes what she is spouting about the EXISTENTIAL threat that AGW poses for the entire planet, she should logically and immediately make that the one and only subject of her Presidential bid. She has no reason to be taking about things like “free medical care for all”, “abolishing all student load debt”, “making income equal for all workers”, etc., etc., if the world is going to end—or at least become “unfixable” within the next 12—ooops, scratch that, now 11—years.

And why would we ever consider allocating, say, $30 TRILLION for free medical care in the US when we know that we’ll have to spend more than $4,000 TRILLION over the next 10-20 years to “save the planet” (adding in, of course, the cost-overrun margin required for government-managed programs).

I am willing to bet that at the next Democratic Party debate in which she participates, fighting “climate change” will NOT be the first, or even the second, issue that she focuses on.

February 22, 2020 4:33 pm

She said at the debate in Las Vegas that she believes in Science.
“She added: “I want to see us move entirely to green. And let me say on this, I not only support a Green New Deal, I don’t think it goes far enough.”
Maybe she should debate Dr Patrick Moore about Photosynthesis and how it creates a greener earth….
Just Sayin. . .

JPP

Rud Istvan
February 22, 2020 4:35 pm

Ah, yes. Fauxcahontas from Taxachusetts. ‘Distinguished HLS professor’ who (trust me, I graduated from HLS many moons ago a year after Mittens—we were both actually joint programs HLS/HBS) demonstrably knows nothing about anything real. She learned more and more about less and less until finally she (as proven here) knew everything about nothing and decided that would make her a good President.

Mittens, on the other hand, went the other way. After graduation, he learned less and less about more and more until (as proven by his taxachusetts governorship and Romneycare plus 2012 presidential campaign) he knew nothing about everything. Which, in his mind, makes him a good Utah junior Senator today.

John in Oz
February 22, 2020 4:39 pm

Perhaps this statement will gain the same popularity as “I have no recollection of that” and “I was taken out of context”

I hadn’t thought about it in terms of that specific part

If they are proposing the banning of oil production, a consequence would be that there would be no oil exports and yet she has not thought through the ramifications of this.

It seems that they spout a word salad that will please their current audience with no thought for the consequences of those words, then it is others who cannot fulfil the promises.

Michael Jankowski
February 22, 2020 4:52 pm

So she wants to appeal to AOC fans to get votes, make herself sound “better” by taking it even farther, and sticking with AOC’s “Green New Deal” tagline but changing it to “Blue” to make it seem different.

Good gawd she’s pathetic.

What’s next…a Blue-Green New Deal from Bernie?

markl
February 22, 2020 5:23 pm

The Democrats, taken over by the Progressives, are a dumpster fire. If they ever come into political power again the US is finished as we know it. All this talk about ceasing fossil fuel dependency is nothing but virtue signaling hot air without an iota of critical thinking how it would be possible. They truly believe sun and wind can power the earth 100%. It’s pathetic. Unless the people can return the Democratic party to sanity they are finished.

Joel O'Bryan
February 22, 2020 5:23 pm

“She is also supporting a ban on hydraulic fracturing, a method of drilling that involves spraying high pressure water and sand underground to make tiny fractures in rock to release gas, which can then be liquified. “

What an atrocious sentence.
Hopefully “Chris White, Tech Reporter” didn’t actually write that.

4 Eyes
February 22, 2020 6:05 pm

And altruistic Big Green will back her all the way in return for favors of course. How grandiose can someone actually get. And clueless.

Philo
February 22, 2020 6:32 pm

She ignores facts as usual. The “rest of the world” isn’t going to reduce CO2 emissions, for what good it does. Besides China and India the rest of the less developed countries are planning an all up build out of coal fired electric plants(mostly funded by China- if it doesn’t collapse from the corona virus) which will produce 3-4x what the current well-developed countries will be producing.

Joel O'Bryan
February 22, 2020 7:03 pm

Well the Nevada Democratic Caucus results have Pocahontas coming in fourth place this Saturday night as I write this. And she is likely to do very poorly in South Carolina’s primary next Saturday as well.

The Faux Cherokee took Bloomberg’s scalp as a prize at last Tuesday’s debate. I have no doubt she plans a similar ambush this coming Tuesday at the debate in South Carolina. I think this debate the feminist fake Indian from Oklahoma will be aiming to take Midget Mike’s billionaire balls as a trophy before she has to drop out as her donor funding will be gone.

rwisrael
February 22, 2020 8:41 pm

Warren is going to need a lot more sweaters , but she won’t need her glasse to sit in the dark and shiver.

Лазо
February 22, 2020 9:01 pm

Such a deal! At $93-Trillion for the GND that’s only $310,000 per U.S. citizen over ten years! Thanks Liz and AOC, I can look forward to my total enslavement for the next decade to pay for your junk, social-science experiment and never be able to retire.

observa
February 22, 2020 9:25 pm

The softer approach. Trust in me deplorables as I’m committed to changing the climate by whenever the next mob can manage it but in the meantime anoint me as I have all the politically correct motives and the subsidy miners approval and backing on this-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/anthony-albanese-says-labors-2050-zero-emissions-target-will-be-economy-wide/ar-BB10hzGp
Up the workers!

Tom Abbott
February 22, 2020 9:58 pm

From the article: “She added: “I want to see us move entirely to green. And let me say on this, I not only support a Green New Deal, I don’t think it goes far enough. I also have a Blue New Deal, because we’ve got to be thinking about our oceans as well that we need to protect.”

Elizabeth Warren is calling for a “Blue New Deal” as a means of separating herself from the other candidates.

I think Elizabeth will be giving up the race here in the very near future, right after Super Tuesday. Sanders, Biden and Alfred E. Newman are the three winners in Nevada tonight with Elizabeth coming in a distant fourth.

Biden’s mental condition seems to be getting worse. He claimed the other day that he had been arrested in South Africa when he was down there protesting racism, but there’s no record of him ever being arrested and noone that was with him on the trip backs up his story. He’s been caught in another blooper. Another unforced error.

So it looks like Bernie Sanders will be the Demcrat nominee unless they screw him out of it at the Democrat convention, which isn’t out of the question.

TomB
February 22, 2020 11:32 pm

I find it curious that, when I watched, the video it was immediately followed by the Billie Eilish video of “All the Good Girls Go To Hell”.

observa
February 23, 2020 3:25 am

The Guardian goes with- So what if it costs whatever!
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/comment-bernie-sanders-plans-may-be-expensive-but-inaction-would-cost-much-more/ar-BB10hOQA

Didn’t work for Bill Shorten and Labor in Oz last time with the line- You can’t put a price on climate change!
You’d think with a name like Bill he’d get it a lot better than the previous lemmings going down that path. It’s like this stoopids. Some free pink batts, LED light globes, shower heads, draught stoppers and some solar subsidies is fine but don’t whatever you do start talking about carbon taxes and whatever it takes or that way to the cliff and look lively lemming.

rah
February 23, 2020 4:00 am

Did she walk off another private jet to make that pronouncement? Besides, lets face it, the fake Injun ain’t ever going to be POTUS. I do have to say though that I liked how she repeatedly kicked Mini Mike in the family jewels at the last debate.

Ed Zuiderwijk
February 23, 2020 4:04 am

Dizzy Lizzy has completely gone to town riding backwards on a donkey.

Paul Stevens
February 23, 2020 4:16 am

Democrats playing the long game. Warren spouting nonsense to make Sanders look like a reasonable alternative to Trump.

observa
Reply to  Paul Stevens
February 23, 2020 4:58 am

Well you could be right as she chopped up the Bloomer with the Metoo base so get behind another old white haired male Marxist gals. You have to contextualise the ironyng nowadays.

Barnes Moore
February 23, 2020 6:00 am

Again, a simple question for Liz and the others – Once you eliminate fossil fuels, how do you plan on manufacturing renewables?

observa
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 23, 2020 7:54 am

She hasn’t thought about it in terms of that specific part but….cue applause

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Barnes Moore
February 23, 2020 11:54 am

Shhh! Stop asking reasonable questions, you must believe in the unicorn farts!

Nicholas McGinley
February 23, 2020 6:52 am

Here is why no one in their party speaks out against their BS.
Whenever one does, they have an overwhelming urge to go for a walk on a desolate road and commit Arkancide:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philip-haney-dhs-whistleblower-during-obama-era-found-dead-police-say

Donald Boughton
February 23, 2020 8:27 am

The Green Deal, the Dumbocrats working for a Trump landslide in the 2020 Presidential election. Have the Dumbocrats never heard of the old adage “When you are in a hole the first thing to stop doing is digging”

Tom Gelsthorpe
February 23, 2020 11:56 am

“Green” jobs are like growing food crops with digging sticks, fishing with wooden spears, and sleeping in hollow logs.

Ditzy Cortez and Dizzy Ms. Lizzie are leading a race to the bottom — who can obliterate the modern American economy and lead us back into the Stone Age faster?

observa
February 23, 2020 9:49 pm

He’s right he is driving the media totally crazy and he even tells them that’s what he’s doing and they still do it-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/what-would-happen-if-trump-refused-to-leave-office/ar-BB10iIPN
He’s the best. LOL.

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