The Radical Green Road To Venezuela – Poverty, Misery And Dictatorship

By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., September 2019

The Trudeau Liberals in Canada and their fellow-travellers in the western democracies are engaged in an extreme-left covert plot to damage our economies, destroy democracy and severely restrict our freedoms. Their objective is the total control of citizens and our economies, similar to the socialist devastation of Venezuela.

The following paragraph describes the covert agenda of the green extremists who control the Trudeau cabinet. A highly credible gentleman wrote me concerning his recent conversation with an Ottawa insider, as follows:


He wrote that the Ottawa insider “… told me that he had been working on an advisory group to the Trudeau government. According to him, the group was not formed to discuss policy for the 5 year horizon governments are usually interested in but to develop policies for the further future, 20 to 40 years out. His starting point, and by implication that of the group, was that the present economic model was flawed and had to be replaced … …Unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and people would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to have more control over people to enforce their austerity and the wealth of developed nations would have to be redistributed to help undeveloped nations.”

A similar extreme-left political agenda was recently revealed in the USA by Saikat Chakrabarti, chief of staff for Democratic New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of ”Green New Deal” fame, who said:

“The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all, Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,”
“Changing the Entire Economy”, The Wall Street Journal, July 12, 2019

The same plot is unfolding in Great Britain. Sir Ian Boyd, the government’s chief environment scientist, said the public had little idea of the scale of the challenge from Britain’s “Net Zero CO2” emissions target.

“People must use less transport, eat less red meat and buy fewer clothes if the UK is to virtually halt greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the government’s chief environment scientist has warned.

Sir Ian Boyd has lifted the lid on the reality of the programme. We will all have to accept big lifestyle changes – travel less, eat less, consume less.

But eventually some form of compulsion or rationing will be necessary, if climate targets are to be met.

The Science and Technology Select Committee let the cat out of the bag last week, when they officially announced “In the long-term, widespread personal vehicle ownership does not appear to be compatible with significant decarbonisation”.

When they ultimately find themselves being told what they can and cannot consume, where they can travel and what foods they are allowed to eat, they will be furious about the way they have been misled.”


“Climate change: Big lifestyle changes ‘needed to cut emissions’-DEFRA Chief Scientist”,
By Roger Harrabin, BBC News, August 29, 2019 [excerpts]

When she was United Nations climate chief, Christiana Figueres said that democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. Communist China, she said, is the best model.

Justin Trudeau has also stated that he admires the Chinese “basic dictatorship”, for similar reasons.

“There is a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go green, we need to start, you know, investing in solar.”
“At Toronto fundraiser, Justin Trudeau seemingly admires China’s ‘basic dictatorship’ “

Trudeau’s policies have already done enormous harm to Canada. Almost all levels of government have adopted policies based on false global warming/climate change alarmism, the greatest scientific fraud in history.
“CO2, Global Warming, Climate And Energy”, by Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., June 13, 2019

The foreign-funded radical green anti-oil-pipeline fraud has cost Canada over $120 billion in lost revenues, an enormous, needless loss. Our living costs are increasing rapidly and our living standards are falling.

The clear intent is to use the global warming smokescreen to restrict economic and political freedoms, by transforming Western countries into tightly controlled states. This statement is highly credible, especially since over half the people of the world already live under totalitarian socialist rule.

The idea that climate alarmism can be the foundation for radical economic change has a long history.

The following quotations by prominent leftists provide further support for these facts.

· “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
– Club of Rome, “The First Global Revolution”, by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider, 1991

· “…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth…”
– IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer, speaking in November 2010

· “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
– Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, in the journal “Discover”

· “A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.”
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”
– Dr. Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich, and Dr. John Holdren,
Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, 1970

· “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”
– former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev, 1996

· “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
– Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme, Rio Climate Summit, 1992

· “The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
– Christopher Manes, Earth First!

· “I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
– John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

· “I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.”
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, husband to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
Foreword to If I Were an Animal (1987) by Fleur Cowles ISBN 978068806150

· “A global warming treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”
– U.S. Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, Rio Climate Summit, 1992

· “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
– Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment, Calgary Herald interview, 1988

· “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”
– Timothy Wirth, former U.S. undersecretary of state for global issues, Rio Climate Summit, 1992

· “The goal now is a socialist, redistributionist society, which is nature’s proper steward and society’s only hope.”
– David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club, founder of Friends of the Earth

The green extremists in Canada, the USA, Britain and the remaining democracies are saboteurs of our economies and enemies of democracy, whose true intent is to use the global warming smokescreen to destroy our prosperity and restrict our freedoms – by transforming our countries into socialist dictatorships.

Radical green extremists have cost society trillions of dollars and many millions of lives. For example, the effective banning of DDT and radical green opposition to golden rice have blinded and killed tens of millions of children.

Green energy and CO2 abatement schemes, driven by false fears of catastrophic global warming, have severely damaged the environment and squandered trillions of dollars of scarce global resources that should have been allocated to serve the real, immediate needs of humanity. Properly allocated, these wasted funds might have ended malaria and world hunger.

The number of shattered lives caused by radical-green activism rivals the death tolls of the great killers of the 20th Century – Stalin, Hitler and Mao. Radical greens advocate similar extreme-left totalitarian policies and are indifferent to the resulting environmental damage and human suffering… … and if unchecked, radical environmentalism will cost us our freedom.

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102 thoughts on “The Radical Green Road To Venezuela – Poverty, Misery And Dictatorship

  1. Of course al this proposed austerity does not apply to Christiana Figures and her lot. They will live high on the hill and high on the hog insulated from the hoi poloi .

    Or so they think

  2. There thousands thousands of protesters around Australia yesterday. One “protester” I saw holding a banner saying “Listen to Bill Nye”, I mean, really?

    It’s a worry when “authorities” are listening to 3rd graders and adolescents!

  3. I’m shocked that so many people have stated that climate change is a lie, and its only about control, yet the main stream media totally ignore it. I am gob smacked at these statements

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
    – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme, Rio Climate Summit, 1992

    · “The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
    – Christopher Manes, Earth First!

  4. The UN rep said China was the perfect model to fight “climate change”??
    CHINA??
    Is she nuts?
    The country that emits more greenhouse gasses than anybody else??
    The country that dumps more plastic into the ocean than anybody else??
    The country that steals more intellectual property than anybody else??
    And the country that builds hugh vacant cities that their own people can’t afford to occupy??
    The UN is just as bad a liar as CNN!!

    • China is now “investing” in Kiribati. I am pretty sure the Chinese would not be doing that is the island was about to be swamped by the sea.

      • i suspect Kiribati and the solomons expect china to fund massive dredging and land creation like they did for the spots they built their mil bases on..
        might be in for a very rude shock if/when they do
        and they deserve it
        the fools of tuuvalu will prob also jump on the wagon soon too

    • China is already a police state and it seeks to institute its control globally. Internally, it is getting worse.

  5. Yesterday evening, a huge billboard at the railway station of Zurich (Switzerland) Airport stated:

    Red-Green climate dictatorship: Flying is only for the rich !

    Accompanied by a the portrait of a red Satan with green eyes and grin hiding behind a smiling green leaf.

    The SVP (kind republican to USA standards party) has finally decided to spool-up and blast the politically correct landscape.

    Guess all hope is not lost…

  6. In the mixed up confusing muddled up world we now live in, Hollywood occasionally comes up with a story line than transformed the good into bad and makes heroes villains.
    “Did you order code red diesel, to mow that field” the Brits will know what red diesel is.

  7. ‘The Trudeau Liberals in Canada and their fellow-travellers in the western democracies are engaged in an extreme-left covert plot to damage our economies, destroy democracy and severely restrict our freedoms. Their objective is the total control of citizens and our economies, similar to the socialist devastation of Venezuela’

    absolute nonsense.

    and isn’t Venezuela an oil economy?

    • I don’t know why Allen MacRae always has to debase his arguments by illogically bringing Venezuela into the story. The economic problems of that country are by a large part caused by US sanctions and embargoes and foreign interference. Attempts to foment civil unrest and regime change to install a client govt.

      • Greg and griff

        Isn’t that what the greens are trying to do? Shut down (sanction) OUR economy.

        I think the example of Venezuela is a good one.

        • Thank you Joe.

          Greg and Griff are tag-teaming again – maybe they are the same person. I cannot bother to reply to their imbecilic nonsense.

          Justin Trudeau’s green idiocy is demonstrated by his deliberate sabotage of Alberta’s energy industry, by destroying our ability to export our oil.

          Alberta is the financial mainstay of Canada, and has been for about 70 years – due to our oil and gas production.

          Federal Tax Transfers from Alberta to other provinces and territories now total almost one trillion dollars (with nominal 2% interest), or about $1 million per Alberta family-of-four since 1961. Tax transfers are the amount Alberta taxpayers contribute to the federal government, less the amount the feds spend in Alberta.

          Albertans and our energy prosperity have financed the entire country for generations.

          Trudeau and his uber-green fanatics are acting to destroy Alberta’s economy, the financial powerhouse that funds all of Canada.

      • The counter example is Bolivia. When the Bolivian socialists came to power, they worked hard to reduce the country’s debt. In Venezuela the opposite happened.

        This reminds me of Saskatchewan under the CCF. The government was run by farmers, teachers, and preachers. It ran balanced budgets.

        I would argue that not all socialist governments are Marxist. When there is a reasonable balance between capitalism and socialism, countries can be stable for very long periods. The killer doesn’t seem to be a bit of socialism. The killer seems to be corruption. That will drag a country into the weeds and leave it there. It may explain why Canada has a bigger GDP than Russia.

        Marxist totalitarianism, on the other hand, has always been an unmitigated disaster wherever it has been tried.

        • Nice article in the leftist WaPo.

          Did you once tout Venezuela as a model of socialism?

          It took 15 years for Chavez to run Venezuela into the dirt. The first thing this new leader did was change the constitution to give more power to the future dictator after winning the presidency with large majorities in the legislature, just as Chavez did. Much as in Venezuela he is doing well with high growth in minerals, gas and exports but what happens when the growth stops or income declines? Will he surrender his power when the population decides they want a change?

          It is hard for me to find old articles in the WaPo from a Google search touting how great Venezuela was under Chavez, but the following does describe the process of the wealth and poverty cycle of a petro-state without a solid basis in democratic governance. Chavez sowed the decent into totalitarianism with his constitutional changes. It is just a matter of time before Bolivia follows the same path.

          https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/venezuela-crisis?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImf7M0Jji5AIVBNVkCh1yOAluEAAYASAAEgJqo_D_BwE

        • Jordan Peterson points out brilliantly that exact thing about Marxists. link It is a failure of human nature that we seem to think we are wiser and smarter than those who came before us. It’s something like, “Those previous Marxists got it wrong but we are wiser and smarter and more virtuous. We would get it right.” When you hear someone talking like that, it is imperative to keep them well away from the levers of power.

    • Venezuela used to have a thriving oil economy. It, along with other profitable industries and sectors there, were nationalized and plundered. No one can afford to sell their goods and services at a loss for long but that is what socialization inevitably brings.

      I visited there early in Chavez’s rule and it was quite nice. The people were happy and healthy and stores were well stocked with goods. I grew fond of their delicious arepas washed down with Polar beer.

      A couple of years later, even the luxury hotel I had stayed in was confiscated for the people. I heard that is when the bed bugs moved in.

  8. Red diesel a reduced duty (tax) fuel to be used by agricultural vehicles and plant machinery only,not to be used on the road,if caught on the road in a none registered agricultural vehicle it will be confiscated and not released till you pay a fine and the equivalent duty owed,there will also be a towing away fee and a storage fee by the day.implemented by her majesty’s customs and excise department, but who have no powers of stopping a vehicle so the police have to be involved too, these bods commonly hang round a cattle markets,large layby and the end of motorways,but can stop you anywhere. When you buy red you have to give your name,address and reg number and reason for buying,you may be subject to a visit,were they will dip all your vehicle tanks.

    • We used to use a lot of kerosene for a machine in my family business – it was a good dielectric. We boight it at an agricultural supplier – and got pulled over by HMCE who were CERTAIN we used it in our (diesel) car.

      They were furious when they couldn’t dip the tank with their probes to draw samples. We didn’t cheat BTW, but HMCEs power of search are legendary

      • Yep, nowadays they can tell by sticking a probe in the exhaust pipe, at some point in the 2000s there was a new die for red diesel that will not filter out,and they added different colour dies to paraffin ,heating oil and pump diesel and petrol ,but the dye will bleach out if left in the sun,which is useless theres days because all fuels are dyed,they dont like tanks with anti siphoning, hence the probe.

  9. They want us to consume ‘less’. What does ‘less’ mean. If we want to eliminate fossil fuels, we have to go back to a mud hut lifestyle or go completely nuclear. Nearly every human need requires fossil fuels at some point of its production. Renewables are a joke. They won’t pump up nuclear as fast as they want to remove fossil fuels.

    The arithmetic is inexorable and simple. People will figure it out. People don’t like the thought of living as cave dwellers. People don’t like the thought of dying when the government tells them to do so. We will see the yellow vest movement on steroids. Thanks to modern technology and AI, they will figure out who the aristos and their minions are and target them. It will not be pretty.

    President Trump is a mild rebuke to the establishment Democrats and Republicans. They need to understand that things can get much much worse. You can’t screw over the majority of the population and expect smooth sailing.

    Those who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it.

    • https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/31/the-bern-vows-to-prosecute-oil-gas-industry-law-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-law/#comment-2784277

      The real threat is totalitarianism, and it is very serious – the voting demographic is getting younger and naïve youth find socialism very attractive.

      Remember that Obama was elected President and Hillary only lost by a slim margin – Hillary would have been the end of democracy and prosperity for America.

      The history of socialist dictatorships is well-known – destroy the economy and retain power by force. That is the future of our countries if the socialists succeed in their covert schemes – the climate scam is just a false front for their true objectives.

      This is no wild theory – leftist dictatorships have now grown to control over half the people of the world. They promise gullible imbeciles lots of free stuff, get elected, and then hold on to power – the end of democracy.

      The socialist leadership are brutal psychopaths, who seize onto any notion that will disrupt peaceful society, create poverty and chaos and thus give them total control. Their followers are imbeciles who follow anything that sounds good – this describes about the lower third of human intellect – people who are far too stupid to vote – but they do.

      Socialists (aka Progressives aka Marxists) can only be described as insane – they will repeat the horrors of the 20th Century, with over 200 million innocent lives destroyed by the likes of Stalin, Hitler and Mao, and lesser psychos like Pol Pot and the Tin Pot leftist dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America – most recently Mugabe in Zimbabwe and Chávez and successors in Venezuela.

      In fact, radical green socialists have already destroyed almost as many lives as their 20th Century counterparts. This green carnage is described in my essay “Hypothesis: Radical Greens are the Great Killers of Our Age”. A large percentage of those killed by the radical greens have been children under five years of age.
      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/

      Radical greens are a reboot of the old Marxists, the “useful-idiot” fellow-travellers in the West who used to support the failed Soviet Union – they seem to think it will all go better this time – it won’t.

      The leftists say that the millions killed by socialists Stalin, Hitler and Mao in the 20th Century were an aberration – but that notion is false – the murder of millions of innocents is the central feature of socialism – 200 million dead innocents cannot be wrong.
      _________________________

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/#comment-2749625

      “Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy.” – Mao Tse-Tung

      Mao killed about 80 million of his own people, the mainland Chinese. How were they the enemy?

      Stalin killed about 50 million Russians, Ukrainians, and others – also his own people.

      National Socialist Hitler killed another 50 million, but some of them actually were his enemies.

      What the left does not seem to understand is this:
      WHEN POWER IS SO TIGHTLY CONCENTRATED, IT ALWAYS ENDS UP IN THE HANDS OF A VICIOUS PSYCHOPATH AND HIS SYCOPHANTS.

      And no, this time it will NOT be different.
      ___________________________________

      • Mao placed ideology far above family! That’s how he could kill 80 million of his fellow countrymen with gay abandon! The same can be said of the Democrats in the US as they pursue dictatorial power by every means possible–whether it be by saturating the news with lies, weaponizing intelligence agencies, or pushing a coup d’etat on a duly elected president even to this day! But a time of reckoning has come!

        • Mao lived in luxury, and owned 25 Mercedes 600’s [the most expensive car built in the 1970’s and 1980’s]. Meanwhile, he killed about 80 million of his own people.

          Fidel also lived in luxury as his people starved.

          Both men reportedly had a stable of mistresses/concubines.

          Mugabe in Zimbabwe lived in a palace as his country disintegrated.

          That is the typical model of socialism – luxury and opulence for he boss, starvation for all the peasants.

          https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/03/can-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-save-the-world-from-climate-change/#comment-2395940

          The “economic” model is like Zimbabwe – a murderous absolute monarch like Robert Mugabe sitting atop a sh!thole of poverty and oppression. That is the TRUE Marxist model, stripped of all the fancy rhetoric.

          The death tolls attributable to these “fearless leaders” of the left are approximately:

          Adolf Hitler – WW2 on all sides: ~50 million killed.

          Josef Stalin – Russians in internal purges: ~50 million killed.

          Mao Tse Tung – Chinese in internal purges during the “Great Leap Backwards”: ~80 million killed

          Pol Pot – Cambodians in internal purges: ~3 million killed

          These numbers are from memory so may be imperfect – but I think Mao gets the record for sheer numbers of deaths, whereas Pol Pot gets the “percentage of total population” prize.

          Attaboys all around!

          Fanatical ideologues are truly dangerous people – given enough power, they usually act the same way.

          Justin Trudeau has openly approved of the effectiveness of one-party rule – and has admired Fidel since he was a pup.

          Mao owned 25 Mercedes 600’s [the most expensive car built in the 1970’s and 1980’s] – so much for Socialism. Many other vicious leftist dictators have also owned them – including Pol-Pot, Tito, Kim Il Sung, Idi Amin, etc., etc.

  10. In the UK Daily Mail yesterday there was an article about the number of drivers who have had their licenses taken for medical conditions. So far so good, but it’s easy to see how that can, and probably will, be abused in the future for ideological ends.

    • Just a matter of time and political will. And given the fact there are some 4000, when I last checked, or more laws that can receive an infringement notice in the UK and a fine it won’t be long before that list is expanded hence the push for driver less EV’s.

  11. The current economical model has outlived it’s usefulness. It is great when there is no infrastructure and a country is moving from mud huts and dirt roads. The 1940,s thru 1970,s was the peak use of the current model for north America, exports were higher than imports. Ultimately, Society always picks up the tab for private enterprise.

    In most western countries we have created a society and standards that we can’t afford any more without debt.

    Freedoms and restraint are two completely different things, this is obvious to most. Check out the world debt clock, it’s a key indicator of how much we produce and how much we spend.
    Regards

    https://commodity.com/debt-clock/

    • Debt is an accounting ledger, its a function of the flow of wealth. To the extent that we can set it aside, what really makers is the accumulation of wealth and the overall health and well being of citizens, e.g. as measured by poverty rates, life expectancy, etc.

      Inevitably, socialism leads to dictatorship, theft, and a reduction in overall wealth. Deng was smart enough to understand that capitalistic freedoms lead to more wealth to steal.

    • Martin,
      Debt is the rope the Central Bank uses to ensnare countries and hold them hostage to a fiat currency! Who benefits? The owners of the central bank, who are collectively estimated to be worth $500 Trillion! Who is abused? Everybody that uses their currencies! And people wonder why the Federal Reserve has never been audited??

    • As usual, socialists can’t blame themselves for their failures, so they blame the system.
      Some people can’t restrain their impulses and buy things they can’t afford. So the solution is to change the system so that people can only buy what government officials say they can buy.

      BTW, if you don’t believe that socialist governments also run deficits then you just haven’t been paying attention.

  12. You are totally correct to call out this rush to socialism, which socialism is actually a combination class system and dictatorship. All of these countries cited as models, Venezuela, China, etc, have an elite class living large at the top. I live in a socialist country, and here’s something associated with this socialist tendency: the corrupt public officials love to hide behind environmentalists, that is they place the environmentalists in front of them as useful fools. If a mining company applies for an exploration permit, the official says the environmentalists won’t allow it, but if a payment can be made the brave official will try to negotiate with the environmentalists. It looks to me like this all ends in chaos, when the austerity class discovers that there actually isn’t any more money in the bank.

  13. Think Lol Pot in Cambodia.
    If you wear glasses you must be an intellectual enemy of the people, so off to the re-education (extermination) camp. Ditto if you have soft hands, you are an enemy of the people and must go the same route.
    What did they achieve? Nothing, just lots of dead bodies, and how is the environment doing in Cambodia?
    IIRC much of the the damage done in Cambodia was perpetrated by the children, who are now being touted as the holders of wisdom regarding the climate.
    Maybe they should read The Changing Climate by H H Lamb, but with the current level of education would they understand it?

  14. Top post
    “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth…”

    This is nothing new, the last financial crisis did the same, and since then doctrines have been put in place that if your bank needs capital, it just takes all the cash, term deposited straight from your account without asking and does not have to pay them back, just issue shares at their valuation.

    Your article needs context.
    Regards

    • Martin wrote:
      “…the last financial crisis did the same, and since then doctrines have been put in place that if your bank needs capital, it just takes all the cash, term deposited straight from your account without asking and does not have to pay them back, just issue shares at their valuation.”

      Martin,
      The Argentina socialist government (not the banks) did something similar circa 1990 (confiscated citizens’ bank accounts and issued IOU’s at interest rates much lower than local hyperinflation).
      CAN YOU PROVIDE A CREDIBLE REFERENCE FOR WHERE YOUR ALLEGATION HAS BEEN LEGISLATED IN THE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES?

      If this were true, wouldn’t everyone withdraw their money from these banks and put it in safer places

      • The Australian federal Govn’t past laws granting banks in Australia to do exactly that the next GFC! It’s called “Bail-in” and they can take savings and super. Glad I am leaving my biggest super fund where it is, the UK at the moment!

          • Allan here;

            https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/gold-silver-bullion-news/bank-bail-ins-in-australia-e2-80-93-why-your-cash-isn-e2-80-99t-safe/tabid/88/a/2070/default.aspx

            And here;

            https://bradjamesmatthews.com/australia-new-bank-bail-in-laws/

            To start with at least. With this sort of law making to address a “crisis” going on it’s no wonder climate change (TM) has been re-branded as “climate crisis”. Authorities all over the world are no declaring a “climate crisis” or a “climate emergency”. You watch draconian laws be passed to address this “crisis”.

          • I don’t think we have the same problem. Here is how the banking system works in Canada.

            https://www.canada.ca/en/financial-consumer-agency/services/banking/deposit-insurance.html

            DEPOSIT INSURANCE

            Deposit insurance protects your savings if your financial institution fails.

            You don’t have to apply or pay for deposit insurance. The Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation (CDIC) automatically insures your eligible deposits up to $100,000. CDIC insures deposits held in Savings and chequing accounts. Your deposits and products must be held in Canadian dollars at a CDIC member institution.

            Most Canadian banks are members of the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation (CDIC).

            CDIC does not insure:
            losses due to fraud or theft
            mutual funds
            stocks

            The Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation has tools to help you understand what its insurance does and does not cover.

            PROVINCIAL DEPOSIT INSURERS

            Deposits in the following financial institutions are covered under provincial deposit insurance plans:
            • provincially regulated credit unions
            • caisses populaires
            • provincially regulated trust and loan companies

            Deposit insurance plans vary between provinces. Contact your provincial deposit insurer or speak to your financial institution to find out how your deposits are protected.

            Alberta – Alberta Credit Union Deposit Guarantee Corporation
            British Columbia – Credit Union Deposit Insurance Corporation of B.C.
            Manitoba – Credit Union Deposit Guarantee Corporation
            New Brunswick – New Brunswick Credit Union Deposit Insurance Corporation
            Newfoundland – Newfoundland and Labrador Credit Union Deposit Guarantee Corporation
            Nova Scotia – Nova Scotia Credit Union Deposit Insurance Corporation
            Ontario – Deposit Insurance Corporation of Ontario
            Prince Edward Island – Credit Union Deposit Insurance Corporation
            Quebec – Autorité des marchés financiers
            Saskatchewan – Saskatchewan Credit Union Deposit Guarantee Corporation

        • To all:
          I suggest that banking situation is not as you have stated.

          The policy actually protects bank deposits to a significant extent, versus the alternative of a bank failure.

          If it were as you have suggested, nobody would put their money in a bank.

          https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/faqs/open-bank-resolution-policy-faqs

          Why should depositors bail-out banks?

          The OBR policy is designed to ensure that first losses are borne by the bank’s existing shareholders. In addition, a portion of depositors’and other unsecured creditors’ funds will be frozen to bear any remaining losses. To the extent that these funds are not required to cover losses as more detailed assessment of the position of the bank is completed, these funds will be released to depositors. At a high level, this outcome replicates the outcome that would apply in the event that a failed bank was liquidated. The primary advantage of the OBR scheme, however, is that depositors would have access to a large proportion of their balances throughout the process. This contrasts with what would happen under a normal liquidation, where depositors might not have access to any of their funds for a significant period.

      • Glad I have a secret hidey-hole for cash, in case the Fed decides to raid bank accounts for no reason other than greedy business. And I bought that piece of furniture because the salesgirl showed me that hiding place. Looks like a piece of furniture trimming, not a secret squirrel compartment.

        I will add that, while it’s a valid concern, we haven’t descended into quite that bad a spot just yet. Not panicking, but rather, paying attention and not over-reacting to things is always a good idea.’

        At least these mopes on the left-leaning side of the USA political are so open about their intentions that they anticipate no resistance to destruction by them. It’s always imperative to be aware of what the Bad Gusy are up to and not dismiss it as “impossible” or ‘can’t happen here’.

    • Martin, do you presume modern banks should operate like “safe deposit boxes” or piggy banks?
      “Takes all cash […….] straight from your account without asking…” “and does not have to pay them back”.

      That appears to be a substantial misunderstanding of how banking works.

      What “context” should have been added to the article?

  15. Under Free Market Capitalist system inequality is the goal: I and each of you want to maximize income, within the rules, to be able to get more and better stuff and to educate, feed and play with a family.
    Under Control Socialist system equality is the goal: I and each of you contributes what he can; each of us has the same education, housing, food and entertainment. The best actor performs for the love of the art and has the same lifestyle as the stage hand. The NBA players play for fun; they have the same lifestyle win or lose.
    Capitalism: Earn it.
    Socialism: Share it.

    • Under Socialism equality may be the advertised goal, but only the few controlling it live larger than all the rest. Equality is only for the cattle I.E.. YOU.

      Move to China or North Korea and fully comprehend why people are desperate to leave but can’t. You’ll be housed in the Hotel CaliChina.

    • An interesting series of programmes on the Yesterday channel called War Factories (WW2) each finish on the conclusion that centralised government run economies do not produce the goods!
      Germany and Russia ended up as economic disasters, whereas the USA and British economies were able to ramp up production massively.
      The USA provided Russia with 400,000 lorries and jeeps as well as many other materials without which Russia would have been unable to continue the war. Russia just produced 25,000 tanks which although good, could not have functioned without the logistic support from the US provided items.

    • “The other George September 21, 2019 at 3:29 am”

      Capitalism: Earn it. Post examples.
      Socialism: Share it. Post examples. (A tough one this).

    • Socialism: First they come for other people’s money, then they come for yours, resulting in a downward spiral into mass poverty and misery.
      Free market economy: Work hard and save, and you have a good shot of at least leading a comfortable life, and possibly of becoming wealthy.

    • inequality is not the goal of capitalism, it is the result of different people have different abilities and different levels of motivation.

  16. n the World of the “extreme green” agenda, I wonder what is the fate of those who are dependent on the state or others for their care. Most consume considerable amount of resources, in most cases well earned no doubt. It would appear, if one follows the “green rhetoric” that these people a probably expendable as a burden on the state? Does the “green agenda” include massive euthanasia? It time to ask.

    • Living in a area in the UK were prescriptions are free,you are restricted to how much you can have,were as in England you can have as much as you want within reason,because you pay a supplement, so in my case no spare inhaler, the quality of preventers and there dispensers are low compared with Italy who give there patients the latest models,there is a run down of use of antibiotics UK wide,even in some cases were they will help contra to what we are told,they need too spend 300 million notes just on repairs to a infrastructure that’s falling down,there are reports of people dying because theres not enough ambulances and a grading system were some one on the endof the phone decides who has a priority,understaffed,doctors not being replaced,these are just the things they admit too,it would not take a lot to see the whole system collapse,

      Saying all of the above I was very I’ll April with cancer,by may 22nd they had removed the tumor, and all seems to be fine with a after care system. So who knows there is scaremongering due to Brexit of shortages
      People are stockpiling were ever they can,Brexit could be used as a excuse to run down the NHS even more,
      Gove is certainly going to try to destroy farming if we do leave without a deal,pampering to environmental
      Lobby groups,

    • I pulled this from the article.
      People not being paid. This can only end badly.

      German online NTV reports how workers at a number of automotive suppliers have not been getting their wages: “Just how dramatic the situation is is shown by the appeal made by IG Metall [trade union] spokesman Thorsten Dellmann at an information event for employees: ‘Let’s all pray that money will
      come.’”

      michael

    • Excerpts from the same article on Pierre Gosselin’s NoTricksZone:

      https://notrickszone.com/2019/09/21/germany-on-economic-suicide-watch-merkel-government-postpones-climate-death-leap-collective-psychosis/comment-page-1/

      “COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS…”WILD FEARS AND DEMANDS”

      Interestingly, some German climate alarmists are becoming alarmed by the hysteria the demonstrators have been showing on the streets and by the sheer uncompromising vehemence of their demands.

      One RTL West reporter, Jörg Zajonc, commented “not only is our Earth doing poorly, but so is our understanding of freedom and responsibility. […] What I’ve also massively experienced today borders on a collective psychosis, paired with wild fear and demands. Ever shriller, ever louder, ever faster”.

      LIKE THE 1930S?

      Zajonc also added that feasibility is being replaced by ideology, and anything that disagrees is getting labelled “criminal and so must be outlawed”.
      He comments that the nation is becoming irreversibly divided by the extremism. Anyone expressing common sense is getting labeled “an enemy of the environment, a denier, someone who needs to be morally punished”.

      The demonstration shell-shocked RTL West reporter Zajonc says: “I can barely believe any of it.”

      Zajonc summarizes: “Freedom, democracy, liberal thought – all of it being sacrificed .. […] and everyone is enthusiastically cheering it on. What a development.”

  17. The full list of quotations from green-agenda.com is here:
    http://green-agenda.com/

    References for the quotations are here:
    http://green-agenda.com/quoterefs.html

    THOSE THAT ADVOCATE THE NEED FOR A GREEN GLOBAL DICTATORSHIP AND/OR THE SEVERE CULLING OF HUMAN POPULATION ARE CAPITALIZED.

    “THE COMMON ENEMY OF HUMANITY IS MAN.
    IN SEARCHING FOR A NEW ENEMY TO UNITE US, WE CAME UP
    WITH THE IDEA THAT POLLUTION, THE THREAT OF GLOBAL WARMING,
    WATER SHORTAGES, FAMINE AND THE LIKE WOULD FIT THE BILL. ALL THESE
    DANGERS ARE CAUSED BY HUMAN INTERVENTION, AND IT IS ONLY THROUGH
    CHANGED ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIOR THAT THEY CAN BE OVERCOME.
    THE REAL ENEMY THEN, IS HUMANITY ITSELF.”
    – Club of Rome,
    premier environmental think-tank,
    consultants to the United Nations

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “We need to get some broad based support,
    to capture the public’s imagination…
    So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
    make simplified, dramatic statements
    and make little mention of any doubts…
    Each of us has to decide what the right balance
    is between being effective and being honest.”
    – Prof. Stephen Schneider,
    Stanford Professor of Climatology,
    lead author of many IPCC reports

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue.
    Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
    we will be doing the right thing in terms of
    economic and environmental policy.”
    – Timothy Wirth,
    President of the UN Foundation

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…
    climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
    bring about justice and equality in the world.”
    – Christine Stewart,
    former Canadian Minister of the Environment

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations
    on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
    – Prof. Chris Folland,
    Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The models are convenient fictions
    that provide something very useful.”
    – Dr David Frame,
    climate modeler, Oxford University

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the facts
    on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”
    – Al Gore,
    Climate Change activist

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “It doesn’t matter what is true,
    it only matters what people believe is true.”
    – Paul Watson,
    co-founder of Greenpeace

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The only way to get our society to truly change is to
    frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.”
    – emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and
    spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest
    opportunity to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level.”
    – Al Gore,
    Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF A GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION.
    ALL WE NEED IS THE RIGHT MAJOR CRISIS…”
    – David Rockefeller,
    Club of Rome executive member

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the
    world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a
    major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system
    into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods,
    droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have
    ever experienced – a catastrophe of our own making.”
    – Al Gore,
    An Inconvenient Truth

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “We are getting close to catastrophic tipping points,
    despite the fact that most people barely notice the warming yet.”
    – Dr James Hansen,
    NASA researcher

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “By the end of this century climate change will reduce the human
    population to a few breeding pairs surviving near the Arctic.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    Revenge of Gaia

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Climate Change will result in a catastrophic global sea level
    rise of seven meters. That’s bye-bye most of Bangladesh,
    Netherlands, Florida and would make London the new Atlantis.”
    – Greenpeace International

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “This planet is on course for a catastrophe.
    The existence of Life itself is at stake.”
    – Dr Tim Flannery,
    Principal Research Scientist

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Coal makes us sick. Oil makes us sick. It’s global warming.
    It’s ruining our country. It’s ruining our world.”
    – Harry Reid,
    U.S. Senate majority leader

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Climate Change is the greatest threat that
    human civilization has ever faced.”
    – Angela Merkel,
    German Chancellor

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Climate change is real. Not only is it real, it’s here,
    and its effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new
    global phenomenon: the man-made natural disaster.”
    – Barack Obama,
    US President

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “We simply must do everything we can in our power to
    slow down global warming before it is too late.”
    – Arnold Schwarzenegger,
    Governor of California

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Climate change should be seen as the
    greatest challenge to ever face mankind.”
    – Prince Charles

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Climate change makes us all global citizens,
    we are truly all in this together.”
    – Gordon Brown,
    British Prime Minister

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “We have reached the critical moment of decision on climate change.
    Failure to act to now would be deeply and unforgivably irresponsible.
    We urgently require a global environmental revolution.”
    – Tony Blair,
    former British PM

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “WE ARE CLOSE TO A TIME WHEN ALL OF HUMANKIND
    WILL ENVISION A GLOBAL AGENDA THAT ENCOMPASSES
    A KIND OF GLOBAL MARSHALL PLAN TO ADDRESS THE
    CAUSES OF POVERTY AND SUFFERING AND
    ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION ALL OVER THE EARTH.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “IN NATURE ORGANIC GROWTH PROCEEDS ACCORDING
    TO A MASTER PLAN, A BLUEPRINT. SUCH A ‘MASTER PLAN’ IS
    MISSING FROM THE PROCESS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF
    THE WORLD SYSTEM. NOW IS THE TIME TO DRAW UP A MASTER PLAN FOR
    SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND WORLD DEVELOPMENT BASED ON GLOBAL
    ALLOCATION OF ALL RESOURCES AND A NEW GLOBAL ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
    TEN OR TWENTY YEARS FORM TODAY IT WILL PROBABLY BE TOO LATE.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Mankind at the Turning Point

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “WE NEED A NEW PARADIGM OF DEVELOPMENT IN
    WHICH THE ENVIRONMENT WILL BE A PRIORITY.
    WORLD CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT WILL SOON END.
    WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME AND WE MUST ACT.
    IF WE CAN ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM,
    IT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN A NEW SYSTEM, A
    NEW PARADIGM. WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR MINDSET,
    THE WAY HUMANKIND VIEWS THE WORLD.”
    – Mikhail Gorbachev,
    founder of Green Cross International

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE CONCEPT OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY HAS BEEN IMMUTABLE,
    INDEED A SACRED PRINCIPLE OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS.
    IT IS A PRINCIPLE WHICH WILL YIELD ONLY SLOWLY AND RELUCTANTLY TO
    THE NEW IMPERATIVES OF GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL COOPERATION.”
    – UN Commission on Global Governance report

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “DEMOCRACY IS NOT A PANACEA. IT CANNOT ORGANIZE EVERYTHING AND
    IT IS UNAWARE OF ITS OWN LIMITS. THESE FACTS MUST BE FACED SQUARELY.
    SACRILEGIOUS THOUGH THIS MAY SOUND, DEMOCRACY IS NO LONGER WELL
    SUITED FOR THE TASKS AHEAD. THE COMPLEXITY AND THE TECHNICAL NATURE
    OF MANY OF TODAY’S PROBLEMS DO NOT ALWAYS ALLOW ELECTED
    REPRESENTATIVES TO MAKE COMPETENT DECISIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME.”
    – Club of Rome,
    The First Global Revolution

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE EMERGING ‘ENVIRONMENTALIZATION’ OF OUR CIVILIZATION
    AND THE NEED FOR VIGOROUS ACTION IN THE INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE GLOBAL
    COMMUNITY WILL INEVITABLY HAVE MULTIPLE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES.
    PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THEM WILL BE A GRADUAL CHANGE
    IN THE STATUS OF THE UNITED NATIONS. INEVITABLY, IT MUST
    ASSUME SOME ASPECTS OF A WORLD GOVERNMENT.”
    – Mikhail Gorbachev,
    State of the World Forum

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I envisage the prinicles of the Earth Charter to
    be a new form of the ten commandments.
    They lay the foundation for a sustainable
    global earth community.”
    – Mikhail Gorbachev,
    co-author of The Earth Charter

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “IN MY VIEW, AFTER FIFTY YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE UNITED NATIONS SYSTEM,
    I PERCEIVE THE UTMOST URGENCY AND ABSOLUTE NECESSITY FOR PROPER
    EARTH GOVERNMENT. THERE IS NO SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT THE PRESENT
    POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SYSTEMS ARE NO LONGER APPROPRIATE
    AND WILL LEAD TO THE END OF LIFE EVOLUTION ON THIS PLANET.
    WE MUST THEREFORE ABSOLUTELY AND URGENTLY LOOK FOR NEW WAYS.”
    – Dr Robert Muller,
    UN Assistant Secretary General,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “NATIONS ARE IN EFFECT CEDING PORTIONS OF THEIR SOVEREIGNTY
    TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND BEGINNING TO CREATE A
    NEW SYSTEM OF INTERNATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL GOVERNANCE
    AS A MEANS OF SOLVING OTHERWISE UNMANAGEABLE CRISES.”
    – Lester Brown,
    WorldWatch Institute

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “REGIONALISM MUST PRECEDE GLOBALISM.
    WE FORESEE A SEAMLESS SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE FROM
    LOCAL COMMUNITIES, INDIVIDUAL STATES, REGIONAL UNIONS
    AND UP THROUGH TO THE UNITED NATIONS ITSELF.”
    – UN Commission on Global Governance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “A KEEN AND ANXIOUS AWARENESS IS EVOLVING TO SUGGEST THAT
    FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN THE WORLD ORDER
    AND ITS POWER STRUCTURES, IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH AND INCOME.
    PERHAPS ONLY A NEW AND ENLIGHTENED HUMANISM
    CAN PERMIT MANKIND TO NEGOTIATE THIS TRANSITION.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Mankind at the Turning Point

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE ALTERNATIVE TO THE EXISTING WORLD ORDER CAN ONLY
    EMERGE AS A RESULT OF A NEW HUMAN DIMENSION OF PROGRESS.
    WE ENVISION A REVOLUTION OF THE MIND, A NEW WAY OF THINKING.”
    – Mikhail Gorbachev,
    State of the World Forum

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “WE REQUIRE A CENTRAL ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE – ONE AGREED TO VOLUNTARILY.
    MINOR SHIFTS IN POLICY, MODERATE IMPROVEMENT IN LAWS AND REGULATIONS,
    RHETORIC OFFERED IN LIEU OF GENUINE CHANGE – THESE ARE ALL FORMS OF
    APPEASEMENT, DESIGNED TO SATISFY THE PUBLIC’S DESIRE TO BELIEVE THAT
    SACRIFICE, STRUGGLE AND A WRENCHING TRANSFORMATION
    OF SOCIETY WILL NOT BE NECESSARY.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “ADOPTING A CENTRAL ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE…
    MEANS EMBARKING ON AN ALL-OUT EFFORT TO USE EVERY
    POLICY AND PROGRAM, EVERY LAW AND INSTITUTION…
    TO HALT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “EFFECTIVE EXECUTION OF AGENDA 21 WILL REQUIRE A PROFOUND
    REORIENTATION OF ALL HUMAN SOCIETY, UNLIKE ANYTHING THE WORLD
    HAS EVER EXPERIENCED A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE PRIORITIES OF BOTH
    GOVERNMENTS AND INDIVIDUALS AND AN UNPRECEDENTED
    REDEPLOYMENT OF HUMAN AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES. THIS SHIFT
    WILL DEMAND THAT A CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES
    OF EVERY HUMAN ACTION BE INTEGRATED INTO INDIVIDUAL AND
    COLLECTIVE DECISION-MAKING AT EVERY LEVEL.”
    – UN Agenda 21

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE CURRENT COURSE OF DEVELOPMENT IS THUS CLEARLY UNSUSTAINABLE.
    CURRENT PROBLEMS CANNOT BE SOLVED BY PIECEMEAL MEASURES.
    MORE OF THE SAME IS NOT ENOUGH. RADICAL CHANGE FROM THE
    CURRENT TRAJECTORY IS NOT AN OPTION, BUT AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY.
    FUNDAMENTAL ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND CULTURAL CHANGES THAT
    ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF POVERTY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
    DEGRADATION ARE REQUIRED AND THEY ARE REQUIRED NOW.”
    – from the Earth Charter website

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE GOAL NOW IS A SOCIALIST, REDISTRIBUTIONIST SOCIETY,
    WHICH IS NATURE’S PROPER STEWARD AND SOCIETY’S ONLY HOPE.”
    – David Brower,
    founder of Friends of the Earth

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “IF WE DON’T OVERTHROW CAPITALISM, WE DON’T HAVE A CHANCE OF
    SAVING THE WORLD ECOLOGICALLY. I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE
    AN ECOLOGICALLY SOUND SOCIETY UNDER SOCIALISM.
    I DON’T THINK IT IS POSSIBLE UNDER CAPITALISM”
    – Judi Bari,
    principal organiser of Earth First!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “ISN’T THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE PLANET THAT THE
    INDUSTRIALIZED CIVILIZATIONS COLLAPSE?
    ISN’T IT OUR RESPONSIBLITY TO BRING THAT ABOUT?”
    – Maurice Strong,
    founder of the UN Environment Programme

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “A MASSIVE CAMPAIGN MUST BE LAUNCHED TO DE-DEVELOP THE
    UNITED STATES. DE-DEVELOPMENT MEANS BRINGING OUR
    ECONOMIC SYSTEM INTO LINE WITH THE REALITIES OF
    ECOLOGY AND THE WORLD RESOURCE SITUATION.”
    – Paul Ehrlich,
    Professor of Population Studies

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE WORLD IS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT ANOTHER
    UNITED STATES. WE CAN’T LET OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE THE SAME
    NUMBER OF CARS, THE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIALIZATION, WE HAVE IN THE US.
    WE HAVE TO STOP THESE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.”
    – Michael Oppenheimer,
    Environmental Defense Fund

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY REQUIRES THE DELIBERATE QUEST OF POVERTY,
    REDUCED RESOURCE CONSUMPTION AND SET LEVELS OF MORTALITY CONTROL.”
    – Professor Maurice King

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “WE MUST MAKE THIS AN INSECURE AND INHOSPITABLE PLACE
    FOR CAPITALISTS AND THEIR PROJECTS. WE MUST RECLAIM THE ROADS AND
    PLOWED LAND, HALT DAM CONSTRUCTION, TEAR DOWN EXISTING DAMS,
    FREE SHACKLED RIVERS AND RETURN TO WILDERNESS
    MILLIONS OF ACRES OF PRESENTLY SETTLED LAND.”
    – David Foreman,
    co-founder of Earth First!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “COMPLEX TECHNOLOGY OF ANY SORT IS AN ASSAULT ON
    HUMAN DIGNITY. IT WOULD BE LITTLE SHORT OF DISASTROUS FOR US TO
    DISCOVER A SOURCE OF CLEAN, CHEAP, ABUNDANT ENERGY,
    BECAUSE OF WHAT WE MIGHT DO WITH IT.”
    – Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE PROSPECT OF CHEAP FUSION ENERGY IS THE
    WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE PLANET.”
    – Jeremy Rifkin,
    Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “GIVING SOCIETY CHEAP, ABUNDANT ENERGY WOULD BE THE
    EQUIVALENT OF GIVING AN IDIOT CHILD A MACHINE GUN.”
    – Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Our insatiable drive to rummage deep beneath
    the surface of the earth is a willful expansion
    of our dysfunctional civilization into Nature.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE BIG THREAT TO THE PLANET IS PEOPLE: THERE ARE TOO MANY,
    DOING TOO WELL ECONOMICALLY AND BURNING TOO MUCH OIL.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    BBC Interview

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “MY THREE MAIN GOALS WOULD BE TO REDUCE HUMAN POPULATION TO
    ABOUT 100 MILLION WORLDWIDE, DESTROY THE INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTURE
    AND SEE WILDERNESS, WITH IT’S FULL COMPLEMENT OF SPECIES,
    RETURNING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.”
    -Dave Foreman,
    co-founder of Earth First!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “CURRENT LIFESTYLES AND CONSUMPTION PATTERNS OF THE
    AFFLUENT MIDDLE CLASS – INVOLVING HIGH MEAT INTAKE,
    USE OF FOSSIL FUELS, APPLIANCES, AIR-CONDITIONING,
    AND SUBURBAN HOUSING – ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE.”
    – Maurice Strong,
    Rio Earth Summit

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “MANKIND IS THE MOST DANGEROUS, DESTRUCTIVE,
    SELFISH AND UNETHICAL ANIMAL ON THE EARTH.”
    – Michael Fox,
    vice-president of The Humane Society

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “HUMAN BEINGS, AS A SPECIES,
    HAVE NO MORE VALUE THAN SLUGS.”
    – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “HUMANS ON THE EARTH BEHAVE IN SOME WAYS LIKE A
    PATHOGENIC MICRO-ORGANISM, OR LIKE THE CELLS OF A TUMOR.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    Healing Gaia

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE EARTH HAS CANCER
    AND THE CANCER IS MAN.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Mankind at the Turning Point

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “A CANCER IS AN UNCONTROLLED MULTIPLICATION OF CELLS;
    THE POPULATION EXPLOSION IS AN UNCONTROLLED MULTIPLICATION OF PEOPLE.
    WE MUST SHIFT OUR EFFORTS FROM THE TREATMENT OF THE SYMPTOMS TO
    THE CUTTING OUT OF THE CANCER. THE OPERATION WILL DEMAND MANY
    APPARENTLY BRUTAL AND HEARTLESS DECISIONS.”
    – Prof Paul Ehrlich,
    The Population Bomb

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I DON’T CLAIM TO HAVE ANY SPECIAL INTEREST IN NATURAL HISTORY,
    BUT AS A BOY I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ANNUAL FLUCTUATIONS IN
    THE NUMBER OF GAME ANIMALS AND THE NEED TO ADJUST
    THE CULL TO THE SIZE OF THE SURPLUS POPULATION.”
    – Prince Philip,
    preface of Down to Earth

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “A REASONABLE ESTIMATE FOR AN INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD SOCIETY
    AT THE PRESENT NORTH AMERICAN MATERIAL STANDARD OF LIVING
    WOULD BE 1 BILLION. AT THE MORE FRUGAL EUROPEAN STANDARD
    OF LIVING, 2 TO 3 BILLION WOULD BE POSSIBLE.”
    – United Nations,
    Global Biodiversity Assessment

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “A TOTAL POPULATION OF 250-300 MILLION PEOPLE,
    A 95% DECLINE FROM PRESENT LEVELS, WOULD BE IDEAL.”
    – Ted Turner,
    founder of CNN and major UN donor

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “… THE RESULTANT IDEAL SUSTAINABLE POPULATION IS HENCE
    MORE THAN 500 MILLION BUT LESS THAN ONE BILLION.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Goals for Mankind

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “ONE AMERICA BURDENS THE EARTH MUCH MORE THAN
    TWENTY BANGLADESHES. THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY.
    IN ORDER TO STABILIZE WORLD POPULATION,WE MUST ELIMINATE
    350,000 PEOPLE PER DAY. IT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY,
    BUT IT’S JUST AS BAD NOT TO SAY IT.”
    – Jacques Cousteau,
    UNESCO Courier

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “IF I WERE REINCARNATED I WOULD WISH TO BE RETURNED TO EARTH
    AS A KILLER VIRUS TO LOWER HUMAN POPULATION LEVELS.”
    – Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
    patron of the World Wildlife Fund

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I SUSPECT THAT ERADICATING SMALL POX WAS WRONG.
    IT PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN BALANCING ECOSYSTEMS.”
    – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE EXTINCTION OF THE HUMAN SPECIES MAY NOT
    ONLY BE INEVITABLE BUT A GOOD THING.”
    – Christopher Manes, Earth First!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “THE EXTINCTION OF HOMO SAPIENS WOULD MEAN SURVIVAL
    FOR MILLIONS, IF NOT BILLIONS, OF EARTH-DWELLING SPECIES.
    PHASING OUT THE HUMAN RACE WILL SOLVE EVERY
    PROBLEM ON EARTH – SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL.”
    – Ingrid Newkirk,
    former President of PETA

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “CHILDBEARING SHOULD BE A PUNISHABLE CRIME AGAINST
    SOCIETY, UNLESS THE PARENTS HOLD A GOVERNMENT LICENSE.
    ALL POTENTIAL PARENTS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO USE
    CONTRACEPTIVE CHEMICALS, THE GOVERNMENT ISSUING
    ANTIDOTES TO CITIZENS CHOSEN FOR CHILDBEARING.”
    – DAVID BROWER,
    first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The fate of mankind, as well as of religion, depends upon
    the emergence of a new faith in the future.
    Armed with such a faith, we might find
    it possible to resanctify the earth.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The greatest hope for the Earth lies in religionists and
    scientists uniting to awaken the world to its near fatal predicament
    and then leading mankind out of the bewildering maze of
    international crises into the future Utopia of humanist hope.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Goals for Mankind

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “What an incredible planet in the universe this will be
    when we will be one human family living in justice,
    peace, love and harmony with our divine Earth,
    with each other and with the heavens.”
    – Robert Muller,
    UN Assistant Secretary General

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The earth is literally our mother, not only because we depend on
    her for nurture and shelter but even more because the human
    species has been shaped by her in the womb of evolution….
    Our salvation depends upon our ability
    to create a religion of nature.”
    – Rene Dubos,
    board member, Planetary Citizens

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Each element, plant, insect, fish and animal
    represents a certain aspect of Gaia’s – and our – being.
    In a way, we are Gaia’s intelligence and awareness
    – currently lost in self-destructive madness.
    We must acknowledge, respect and love her for being
    the Mother she is to us or we deny our very selves.
    Nurture the Mother as she nurtures us.”
    – Prof. Michael J. Cohen,
    Ecopsychologist

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “It is the responsibility of each human being today to
    choose between the force of darkness and the force of light.
    We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed
    respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature.”
    – Maurice Strong,
    first Secretary General of UNEP

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The spirit of our planet is stirring!
    The Consciousness of Goddess Earth
    is now rising against all odds,
    in spite of millennia of suppression,
    repression and oppression inflicted on Her
    by a hubristic and misguided humanity.

    The Earth is a living entity, a biological organism
    with psychic and spiritual dimensions.
    With the expansion of the patriarchal religions
    that focused on a male God majestically
    stationed in Heaven ruling over the Earth and the
    Universe, the memory of our planet’s innate Divinity
    was repressed and banished into the
    collective unconscious of humanity.”
    – Envision Earth

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Still more important is the implication that the evolution of
    homo sapiens, with his technological inventiveness and his
    increasingly subtle communications network, has vastly increased
    Gaia’s range of perception. She is now through us awake and aware
    of herself. She has seen the reflection of her fair face through the
    eyes of astronauts and the television cameras of orbiting spacecraft.

    Our sensations of wonder and pleasure, our capacity
    for conscious thought and speculation, our restless curiosity and
    drive are hers to share. This new interrelationship of Gaia with man
    is by no means fully established; we are not yet a truly collective
    species, corralled and tamed as an integral part of the biosphere,
    as we are as individual creatures. It may be that the destiny of
    mankind is to become tamed, so that the fierce, destructive, and
    greedy forces of tribalism and nationalism are fused into a
    compulsive urge to belong to the commonwealth of all
    creatures which constitutes Gaia.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    Gaia: A New Look At Life

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Little by little a planetary prayer book is
    thus being composed by an increasingly united
    humanity seeking its oneness. Once again,
    but this time on a universal scale, humankind is
    seeking no less than its reunion with ‘divine,’
    its transcendence into higher forms of life. Hindus
    call our earth Brahma, or God, for they rightly
    see no difference between our earth and the divine.
    This ancient simple truth is slowly dawning again upon
    humanity, as we are about to enter our cosmic age
    and become what we were always meant to be:
    the planet of god.”
    – Robert Muller,
    UN Assistant Secretary General

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “What if Mary is another name for Gaia? Then her capacity for
    virgin birth is no miracle . . . it is a role of Gaia since life began . . .
    She is of this Universe and, conceivably, a part of God. On Earth,
    she is the source of life everlasting and is alive now;
    she gave birth to humankind and we are part of her.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    Ages of Gaia

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Nature is my god. To me, nature is sacred;
    trees are my temples and forests are my cathedrals.”
    – Mikhail Gorbachev,
    Green Cross International

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “The spiritual sense of our place in nature…
    can be traced to the origins of human civilization….
    The last vestige of organized goddess worship
    was eliminated by Christianity.”
    – Al Gore,
    Earth in the Balance

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed,
    we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition.”
    – Peter Singer, founder of Animal Rights

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I pledge allegiance to the Earth and all its sacred parts.
    Its water, land and living things and all its human hearts.”
    – Global Education Associates,
    The Earth Pledge

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “By fostering a deep sense of connection to others and to the earth
    in all its dimensions, holistic education encourages a sense of
    responsibility to self to others and to the planet.”
    – Global Alliance for Transforming Education

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  18. Allan
    Very good summary.
    Financial speculation has become extremely intense. Wild enough to be described as ending action.
    And all of the Great Bubbles in financial history have crashed in the fall. Preceded by liquidity problems being discovered in outlying exchanges. Earlier the year, it was Argentina and Turkey. Then its been India and China.
    2,000 years ago, Cicero observed that when financial collapses were discovered in the Eastern Provinces, it inevitably would arrive in Rome. The financial capital then.
    Since the advent of stock markets in London in the last half of the 1600s, all of the great booms have suffered massive liquidity problems in the fall.
    This is now arriving in New York. In the subsequent hard times the public will look at the $trillions of taxpayer dollars spent to prevent “bad things” from happening. Intrusive policymaking will be widely condemned.
    Then, further cooling will trash the nonsense that a committee can set the temperature of the nearest planet.
    More “ending action” for the control freaks.
    Mark me down as an optimist.
    Control freaks are going to lose–big time.

  19. What I don’t understand: there are a few Conservatives with really big bucks who engage in politics. Why hasn’t any of them run a MSM campaign publicizing the quotes above?

    There is no need to argue anything. Just let the words of the left be heard by all.

  20. Some interesting quotes Allan, thanks. We’re on the same page. But what’s the solution? You point out some of the most brazen conspirators, but let’s face it, can you even get elected dogcatcher in a democracy without being a facile liar? I almost said “accomplished”, but where would that leave the Trudeaus and many others?

    One glimmer of hope I can imagine is the creation of a reliable and affordable pocket lie detector. Then we would perhaps be able to determine whether the majority of people consciously want to be lied to or not. We would also be able to identify sociopaths early in the game, since they are able to fool any lie detector. If there’s another way to establish transparency and accountability, I can’t think of it.

    Unfortunately, it may be that such a tool already exists, and is being used to weed out dissenters and other troublesome characters. Certainly the Canadian community of journalists and broadcasters has long been thoroughly purged of any tendencies to probe the soft underbelly of the beast.

    • HI otro. Re lie detectors:

      It is notable that polygraphs only work (generally) in about 20 countries in the world (probably less), because polygraphs measure stress when lying. The other ~200 countries are “bully societies” where children learn at an early age that if they tell the truth, they will incur severe punishment. As a result, lying is endemic and is so common that it is stress-free.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/26/strategic-minerals-our-next-energy-and-security-crisis/#comment-2292695
      [excerpts]

      HotScot my friend,

      Re lying:
      It is notable that polygraphs only work (generally) in about 20 countries in the world (probably less), because polygraphs measure stress when lying. The other ~200 countries are “bully societies” where children learn at an early age that if they tell the truth, they will incur severe punishment. As a result, lying is endemic and is so common that it is stress-free.

      Several of my projects were conducted in “bully societies” and when something went wrong, one quickly learned that the straight truth was hard to find. A good manager quickly learns who he can trust to tell the truth and provide good advice, and who is blowing smoke. I expect you found the same thing in your police work.

      Management sometimes is faced with unusual new challenges that must be managed without training or time – for example, we had two armed invasions where my people were held hostage at gunpoint and we successfully handled both without any bloodshed or intervention from the authorities – which certainly would have resulted in violence. Nobody taught me how to deal with these incidents – I just used common sense and in this case that meant avoiding any “official” intervention, since these authorities “go in shooting and let God sort them out”.

      Working in the developing world means the “home rules” no longer apply. You rarely get to choose between good and bad – you usually get to choose between bad and worse. Kind of like our voting system in the Western world. 🙂

      How does this relate to wattsup and global warming hysteria?

      Since I heard about the alleged global warming crisis circa 1985, I have been a skeptic. My background in the earth sciences, especially in geology provided me with the knowledge that past climate has been colder and warmer, atmospheric CO2 has been higher and lower, and there is nothing unusual happening to Earth’s climate right now – we live in a relatively calm inter-glacial period, between major ice ages. Atmospheric CO2 is increasing, which makes the flowers happy.

      Other obvious signs that the global warming alarmists were fraudsters was their refusal to debate the science, and their standard bullying techniques of vilifying skeptics and declaring “the science is settled”, a ridiculous statement to anyone who understands the scientific method and the history of science. The fact that the leading warmists were deliberate fraudsters was obvious long before the Climategate emails, which proved it beyond any doubt.

      The fact that so many people continue to accept the warmist dogma is clear evidence of the gullibility and stupidity of many people, including so many journalists, politicians, and even so-called “scientists”, who clearly accepted this nonsense without conducting any research or independent thought.

      I think it is only a matter of time before the global warming house-of-cards comes tumbling down. Earth is not warming dangerously. If anything, the decline in solar activity in SC24 and 25 should result in some moderate global cooling, which could commence anytime.

      Regards, Allan

  21. To all:
    I suggest that banking situation is not as you have stated.

    The policy actually protects bank deposits to a significant extent, versus the alternative of a bank failure.

    If it were as you have suggested, nobody would put their money in a bank.

    https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/faqs/open-bank-resolution-policy-faqs

    Why should depositors bail-out banks?

    The OBR policy is designed to ensure that first losses are borne by the bank’s existing shareholders. In addition, a portion of depositors’and other unsecured creditors’ funds will be frozen to bear any remaining losses. To the extent that these funds are not required to cover losses as more detailed assessment of the position of the bank is completed, these funds will be released to depositors. At a high level, this outcome replicates the outcome that would apply in the event that a failed bank was liquidated. The primary advantage of the OBR scheme, however, is that depositors would have access to a large proportion of their balances throughout the process. This contrasts with what would happen under a normal liquidation, where depositors might not have access to any of their funds for a significant period.

  22. I wish you would not publish nonsensical highly politicised stuff like this.
    Socialism is not evil, only in the USA are the populace conditioned to equate socialism with tyranny.
    Such articles as this are not related to weather or climate or science at all, please Mr Moderator, don’t tarnish this site with such confrontational bollocks.

    • Thank you Comrade Dave for your uninformed nonsense opinion.

      Next, you will be saying that Stalin, Hitler and Mao were not real socialists – they were really rightists masquerading as socialists, and this time, it will be different. No Comrade Dave, it won’t.

  23. Venezuela is a bad comparison for many reasons.

    1. Venezuela was broken before Chavez took over.

    2. Venezuela by several metrics never was a “socialist’ country:
    Public share of GDP is low, even lower than in the US.
    Taxes are low.
    There are opposition parties & media, private enterprises, even opposition oligarchs.
    There are free elections, according to Jimmy Carter the best system he ever observed (while the US, according to Carter, has one of the worst.)
    Probably the most socialist “thing” in Venezuela is free education and healthcare.

    3. Venezuelan economy strongly depends on the oil price. Venezuelan and Colombian oil production declined in parallel in 2016 when oil prices fell below USD 30. The real cause for the devastating collapse were US sanctions (and sabotage from inside Venezuela) cutting Venezuela off the financial system, imports and its own assets abroad.
    https://venezuelanalysis.com/files/venezuela-colombia-oil-production-640x366jpg

    • Sure MS25 – you claim that the destruction of Venezuela was the fault of the USA, and/or Chavez’ predecessors, and/or the Easter Bunny. You have provided no credible references of support any of your claims.

      That is such a standard lame leftist excuse for everything – blame the USA.

      I am Canadian and I lived and worked in the USA for almost two years, first in New York and later in Houston. I’ve also worked on major projects on six continents and have first-hand experience in some of the most difficult countries in the world, including several in the Former Soviet Union. I have also travelled on business to Fidel Castro’s Cuba and Honecker’s East Germany, entering through Checkpoint Charlie just months before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

      I have seen these dreaded regimes first-hand and I loathe their stifling corruption, their imbecilic dysfunction and their easy cruelty.

      Whenever I hear your Pavlovian anti-American falsehoods I ask the complainant one question:
      “You don’t like America – so which country would you rather have as your next-door neighbour? China? Russia? Pick one!”

      Their furrowed brows and dumbfounded silence end the conversation.

  24. ctm, links to facts already discussed here.

    Childishly pseudo politics and propaganda –

    “The number of shattered lives caused by radical-green activism rivals the death tolls of the great killers of the 20th Century – Stalin, Hitler and Mao. Radical greens advocate similar extreme-left totalitarian policies and are indifferent to the resulting environmental damage and human suffering… … and if unchecked, radical environmentalism will cost us our freedom.”

    ____________________________________________________

    What’s eating you – that’s just consuming roaming fees – if you’re “like me” “happy” find your buddies.

    Elsewhere.

    • Johann – based on your inane comments, you’ve really got to cut back.

      WHAT ARE MARIJUANA’S LONG-TERM EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN?
      https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

      Substantial evidence from animal research and a growing number of studies in humans indicate that marijuana exposure during development can cause long-term or possibly permanent adverse changes in the brain. Rats exposed to THC before birth, soon after birth, or during adolescence show notable problems with specific learning and memory tasks later in life.32–34 Cognitive impairments in adult rats exposed to THC during adolescence are associated with structural and functional changes in the hippocampus.35–37 Studies in rats also show that adolescent exposure to THC is associated with an altered reward system, increasing the likelihood that an animal will self-administer other drugs (e.g., heroin) when given an opportunity (see “Is marijuana a gateway drug?”).

  25. We can bide time.

    ___________________________________________

    Sweet Wine: The Cream

    Who wants the worry, the hurry of city life.
    Money, nothing funny, wasting the best of our life.

    Sweet wine, hay making, sunshine day breaking.
    We can wait till tomorrow.
    Car speed, road calling, bird freed, leaf falling.
    We can bide time.

    Sweet wine, hay making, sunshine day breaking.
    We can wait till tomorrow.
    Car speed, road calling, bird freed, leaf falling.
    We can bide time.

    Who wants the worry, the hurry of city life.
    Money, nothing funny, wasting the best of our life.

    source: LyricFind

    Songwriter: Janet Godfrey / Peter Edward Baker

    Songtext von Sweet Wine © Warner Chappell Music, Inc
    ___________________________________________

    We can bide time. Elsewhere.

  26. https://globalnews.ca/news/5947333/trudeau-global-friesen-greta-thunberg-emissions-climate/

    “Just a day after Thunberg’s remarks, Trudeau would announce several “legally binding” targets to be added to the Liberal’s environmental plan at a campaign stop in Burnaby, B.C.

    The first being a commitment to attain zero net carbon emissions across the country by 2050…”

    So Canadians, get ready for the consequences of this new lunacy by Justin Trudeau, Canada’s “Mad Prince of Carbon”:

    CANADIANS, EXCERPT FOR THE ELITE WILL BE REDUCED TO A BASIC LIFESTYLE:
    EAT LITTLE OR NO MEAT
    DRIVE NO PRIVATE CARS
    TAKE NO PLANE FLIGHTS
    LIVE A MUCH POORER, LOWER STANDARD OF LIVING
    BE FORCED TO DO SO UNDER A STRICT SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP.

    Proof:

    Sir Ian Boyd, the government’s chief environment scientist, said the public had little idea of the scale of the challenge from Britain’s “Net Zero CO2” emissions target.

    “People must use less transport, eat less red meat and buy fewer clothes if the UK is to virtually halt greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the government’s chief environment scientist has warned.

    Sir Ian Boyd has lifted the lid on the reality of the programme. We will all have to accept big lifestyle changes – travel less, eat less, consume less.

    But eventually some form of compulsion or rationing will be necessary, if climate targets are to be met.

    The Science and Technology Select Committee let the cat out of the bag last week, when they officially announced “In the long-term, widespread personal vehicle ownership does not appear to be compatible with significant decarbonisation”.

    When they ultimately find themselves being told what they can and cannot consume, where they can travel and what foods they are allowed to eat, they will be furious about the way they have been misled.”

    Source:
    “Climate change: Big lifestyle changes ‘needed to cut emissions’-DEFRA Chief Scientist”,
    By Roger Harrabin, BBC News, August 29, 2019
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49499521

  27. For those who still have doubts about the true agenda of the Green extremists, it’s time to wake up.

    The global warming/climate change scare has always been about socialism and totalitarian control of citizens and society – it’s never been about the science. That’s why the global warming extremists refuse to debate their extreme exaggerations of climate sensitivity to CO2, and repeatedly bleat their Big Lie, that “the science is settled”.

    These are classic Goebbels propaganda tactics, as later codified by Alinsky.
    https://www.azquotes.com/

    “If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.”
    – Joseph Goebbels

    The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means.
    – Saul Alinsky

    Dr. Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace provided an early warning of this covert socialist campaign in “Hard Choices for the Environmental Movement – The Rise of Eco-Extremism”, in 1994: “Surprisingly enough, the second event that caused the environmental movement to veer to the left was the fall of the Berlin Wall. Suddenly the international peace movement had a lot less to do. Pro-Soviet groups in the West were discredited. Many of their members moved into the environmental movement bringing with them their eco-Marxism and pro-Sandinista sentiments.”
    http://ecosense.me/2012/12/30/key-environmental-issues-4/

    The clear intent is to use the global warming smokescreen to restrict economic and political freedoms by transforming Western countries into tightly controlled states.

    Naomi Klein, in her new flamethrower, “On Fire, The Burning Case for a Green New Deal”, also makes it clear that the climate is a “powerful motivator” to overthrow capitalism. “The idea is a simple one: In the process of transforming the infrastructure of our societies at the speed and scale that scientists have called for, humanity has a once-in-a- century chance to fix an economic model that is failing the majority of people on multiple fronts. … Challenging these underlying forces is an opportunity to solve several interlocking crises at once.”

    The clear intent is to use the global warming smokescreen to restrict economic and political freedoms by transforming Western countries into tightly controlled states.

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