Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Trailing Democrat Presidential Candidate Marianne Williamson has demanded a year of military style conscription for all young people, to help combat the climate crisis.
Marianne Williamson wants a national mandatory service for people ages 18-26 to combat climate change
Jeanine Santucci, USA TODAY
USA TODAY September 20, 2019At a presidential climate change forum on Thursday, author and Democratic presidential hopeful Marianne Williamson floated the idea of a national mandatory year of service for young adults to tackle climate change.
“I would like to ask your opinion, I think during the ‘season of repair,’ we should have a mandatory national service, one year, for people between 18 and 26 because we need you,” Williamson said. “We need to fix this climate. We need to fix this country.”
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She lists service projects including helping in small businesses, schools, hospitals, the military, the Peace Corps and work on sustainability and to “combat the climate crisis.”
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Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/09/19/marianne-williamson-proposes-mandatory-national-service-climate-forum/2376414001/
I suspect this policy idea will wreck whatever is left of Marianne’s chances.
When kids protest about climate change, their protests usually include a demand that someone else does the hard work. It seems unlikely climate believers will support a plan which involves them getting off their own butts.
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How about a national mandatory service in the military ? Then they will learn not to be so easily fooled by these Climate Charlatans !
Great post Eric
Who is Marianne Williamson?
She’s the one in the glove compartment of the Democrat Presidential Candidate Clown Car.
When you have this many candidates, it’s easy to lose track of a few here and there.
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Sometimes I think they propose ideas just for the sake of proposing ideas. It doesn’t matter how stupid they are.
You hit the nail on the head, Michael. The dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard come out during the primaries, or in preparation for the primaries. The DUMBEST! And this season has not lacked for really dumb ideas.
It’s not about the ideas, it’s about the message. It doesn’t matter how practical, stupid or absurd the ideas are as long as they fit within the message. Everything for the message, nothing outside the message, nothing against the message.
Absolutely, as shown 80 years ago on film.
Gidget jumps the shark
To quote Adolf Hitler: “When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side.” “I calmly say. Your child belongs to us already…What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
Note how the Climate Alarmists are using children. They would make Goebbels proud. Look up how Goebbels used children in his propaganda and indoctrination efforts.
The epitome of virtue signaling
With the added benefit that there is absolutely no cost to those who are making the proposal.
🎯 Jeez, good throw, Mark!
Marianne should tell them that if they want to show they are serious, they should all put plastic bags over their heads until they stop producing CO2.
WWS … perfect carbon capture !
Doug Huffman: I have not yet learned the meaning of “virtue signaling” , but I fail to see any virtue in demonstrating “thought” processes that are absurd. She is also promoting violating the U.S. Constitution that grants no authority to have such a “service”. Article 1, section 1, starts out with: All legislative powers herein granted… . Obviously, unless the Constitution grants permission for the federal government to do something, it is, by law, prohibited.
When have you ever seen a modern US politician worry about bending constitutional rules?
Republicans, typically. Democrats operate with a presumption of a Twilight Amendment, which social justifies everything and affirmative discrimination and population control are perfectly legal and ethical choices.
Rand Paul. But his message doesn’t appeal to the American people because most of them don’t give a rat’s rear end about the Constitution
vir·tue sig·nal·ing
noun
virtue signaling
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one’s good character or the moral correctness of one’s position on a particular issue.
It’s not hard to find the definition of virtue signaling. Google may be evil but it is still useful.
I would take issue with the google definition.
virtue signalling is more accurately defined as ;
‘making a pointless gesture that signals your naivety and narcissist character’.
Virtue signaling is in essence any action who’s sole purpose is to make yourself look good in the eyes of others.
oh..but…IN Emergencies the govt CAN over ride the constitution ie take your stock fuel and food and vehicle from everyone control farm produce and supplies and direct citizens to work where required
didnt all of that happen in ww2 and also in the depression as well
I love her idea and all her warmist buddies really should stepin and demand it be made to happen
it would take minutes for the majority of the prowarmist teens n others to have a sudden wakeup moment;-)))
money(some effort/work) where their supposed hearts and minds are
The Constitution does include prohibitions – such as no “Bills of Attainder”. What one political party has adopted as a creed is that if a subject is neither mandated nor prohibited by the Constitution then it’s ‘up for grabs’ – whatever we can get away with…..
And she knows the people she’s signaling to think owning slaves is virtuous.
Maybe everyone in the nation should be drafted into the army to fight “total war” against climate change. We can all wear uniforms, live in barracks and just do what we are told. But since the climate change we are experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control a “total war” against climate change will not cause Mother Nature to change her ways one iota.
Mandatory cult brainwashing in case they missed you in the first round.
How about mandatory real science class?
Couldn’t the objective be to march to the sun and demand it ended global warming?
“Sometimes I think they propose ideas just for the sake of proposing ideas. It doesn’t matter how stupid they are.”
Spitballing.
Hey, I’ll vote for this. The CCC, WPA and PWA provided jobs to people during the Depression. The CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps) is the source of some of our national parks.
I think this is a fine idea, and I will certainly vote for it! I’ve already put my own time in, in the Navy, and I had friends who were drafted, so I have no quarrel with mandatory service to benefit “the environment” and “prevent climate change”. (Yeah, like that’s even possible…. 🙂
They provided jobs, at the expense of prolonging the Depression.
So did Al Capone, so what’s your point?
My point is that it’s not a “fine idea”, it is in fact a very bad idea.
The American Society of Civil Engineers regularly gives our infrastructure (roads, water, sewer, etc.) in the D-range. If we need to provide jobs, there are productive things to accomplish. Of course, the unemployment rate is kind of low right now.
There are already people who work full-time on sustainability in those areas…probably more than we need. The notion we need millions more people dedicated to that (with re-training every year for a new group annually is silly.
Military, Peace Corps, etc., are wonderful endeavors in and of themselves. I think they already have a higher priority.
Two years of some kind of mandatory national service (not however, to fight climate change) would be just the thing to de-snowflake todays youth. Eight to 12 weeks of boot camp with lots of physical activity, no cell phone, and lots of discipline would do most 18 year olds a world of good. Then some kind of military service, or civilian community service (there are lots of things that need doing), would help these young people appreciate their country more.
I grew up, then served in the Navy, in the age of the draft. At that time, lots of young men (since only men were drafted) got their stuff together during their military service.
Careful! It’s starting to sound like the AmeriKorps that Clinton fired up. As you recall, Left-wing kids from left-wing homes were given left-wing make-work jobs at salaries that were way too high. Their supervisors were all left wingers and filled the kids’ heads with how wonderful socialism was. It was a training ground for future left-wing activists, many of whom are now in politics.
I fully support the concept of required service on farms, ranches, and waterway cleanups
Nothing like working first-hand on your food and water supply to clarify priorities
Ouch!
Stinks of the Cultural Revolution in China – not to mention the 100 Flowers campaign etc 🙁
Try reading “A Single Tear” Written in English by Ningkun Wu
Cheers
Roger
First, the year of service has to be funded, which would be expensive.
Second, what are they supposed to do?
It’s not like you can go out and fight a real enemy. Are they supposed to dismantle the oil industry, the coal industry, raze it to the ground with hammers and shovels. It makes no sense. Another feel good idea that is not based in reality.
Put them all on treadmills to generate clean ‘Green’ Energy. Unlike Renewables it will even be dispatchable.
We’ll see how much they like it when THEY are the renewable resource.
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It would seem so . Lol
It’s more important to note WHAT ideas their coming up with.
Funny how everything is some form of coercion. That’s the inherent totalitarian control-freak that is at the heart of it all.
Take any cause at all and add ‘nazi’, and that about sums them up.
How will working for free help the weather?? If world governments cut green funds, all of the protesters will disappear..
The idea has some merit, but not in the way that she means it. No soft options,
only military service. And as well as a bit of much needed discipline, some
proper education to make up for the lack of it during their earlier schooling.
That might change them from “”Warriors for climate”” into Warriors for their
country.
MJE VK5ELL
I agree – it is a good idea but not for the reason intended.
As in if you want some assistance with college costs; put in a year of military service and I’d even agree to allow conscientious objectors to not join combat units.
But let’s say I think Marianne has, like, a really woke idea.
I’ll report first thing tomorrow to “Climate Emergency HQ. Specifically what job will I be assigned and how with that reduce a global climate crisis?
My guess is one of the main activities would be to organize a “Climate Communications Squad” that just like “Community Organizers” attempt to rile up support for the cause (in Greta’s words “create panic”), especially in elementary and high schools; and of course work on the political campaigns (or state AG offices) of Progressive candidates who support the GND.
The idea has 0 merit. It’s slavery. Slavery is always socially destructive and morally wrong. And its proponents always have a million excuses why it’s not only good for society, but also for the slaves too!
The Democrats were the party of slavery. The Democrats are the party of slavery.
Well where is the line that you can register as a conscientious objector? I guess our young people will not be able run off to Canada.
michael
If I was drafted into the ‘Climate Change Corps, I sure as heck wouldn’t go to Canada; too cold. I’d do my draft dodging in Fiji.
With the current government in Canada, there is absolutely zero chance that you would be granted sanctuary.
They may head north to Canada when the “heat” catches up to them.
Yes those indentured youths need to gather a week’s worth of heating value in firewood before they can turn on their house furnace for the subsequent week. A year of that should teach them a lot about the efficiency society has developed to distribute fuel where it is needed. Might also make them want to insulate their house some more so they would only have to fetch 90% of the amount of firewood.
Well, she ain’t going to get elected with an attitude like that. You must remember that it is always, ALWAYS, someone else that must pay and sacrifice. Asking young to put down their overpriced iPhones to *gasp* work … not going to happen. Some will, most only want to go to the street to be useful idiots for their puppet masters. Most want rich white people — the people who worked hard already — to pay.
I agree with Marianne Williams, but only for people who believe in CAGW. Of course, if what she wants came true, support for this nonsense would dry up faster than a spitball in a hot desert. If I had my way, I would make it a law that before a politician can promote a way of life, that politician must actually live that way for no less than 2 full calendar years. Never ask me to do something you are not willing to do yourself.
+42 :<)
WOW. So they are past Socialism and entering into Communism now. Only dictators and communists believe the best way to end disagreement is to enslave people.
This candidate should just leave for China and leave us good-old Republic-Capitalists be.
Modern Leftists: “Slavery is the worst thing ever in the history of the world.”
Also Modern Leftists: “Slavery (for one year) is the only way to save the world.”
Robert of Texas, you’re just now figuring that out? Better late than never… They’re called Watermelons because they’re environmental green on the outside and commie red on the inside.
I’m all for it, but why restrict it just to the kids?
I wanna see Michael Mann doing some press ups to save the planet in global-warming boot camp, with no Twitter/social media allowed. And no other modern comforts either. They need to learn the hard way what a”carbon free” lifestyle will really mean.
Half of the conscripted can dig holes and the other half can fill them in again. This will keep them away from Climate Marches and CAGW and improve their education.
Aha! I was going to ask exactly what would these conscripts actually do? You have provided the answer, thank you.
The who think compulsory military service is a good idea have probably never been through it. Getting people to spend years of their life doing something they don’t want to do is fatal for the moral of the organisation.
And the obvious “Klima Jugend” special section.
Then, one day, after the smoke clears, smiling girls welcome liberators.
Because, happens we already had similar events in here, not that long ago. When someone took care to decide who has the right to use land resources and had to be given a thorough spanking.
Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire.
We are going to see the continuing ramping up of the rhetoric-you think it is absurd now, just wait for the calls for deniers to be executed. Think I am joking?
I wonder if humans have actually evolved in to dung beetles-only a dung beetle should be swallowing every scrap of BS served up to it. Mind you, even dung beetles do not chase their plate of BS down with Kool aid.
“…wait for the calls for deniers to be executed.” They’re just one small step away from that. They’ve already called for the imprisonment of people opposed to the CAGW faith.
If you want to alienate the young, initiate a Draft.
and include women.
Having been a conscript in 1966 you deeply resent it.
So what would “climate service” be anyway? Holding one’s breath for a substantial period?
Maybe picking up mutilated eagles from wind farms? How about pushing a human-powered grain mill, as in the movie Midnight Express?
Those drawing the most attention to themselves, should be the first conscripts.
Marianne Williamson, the anti-vaxxer with crystal healing power beliefs.
Where even the hard Left mocks her magical positions
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/28/marianne-williamson-for-secretary-of-crystals-the-bonkers-break-out-character-of-nbcs-debates/
She’s the gift that keeps on giving for Republicans.
It sounds like the Red “Young Pioneers” of the old Soviet Union.
Since there is no “Climate Crisis” they’ll have to find something else to do with them.
Universal conscription for people 18-26. Something tells me their instruction for “climate action” will be to vote for Democrats.
Rather than coerce young adults into non-military government service (which might be unconstitutional), more good would likely result if they gave up driving their cars for 1 day a week and walked instead. Reductions in emissions would probably be un-measurable, but the young adults might all become healthier for it.
I suspect you all are missing the obvious.
The way youth combat the climate crisis is through protests, like gluing themselves to streets and doors. This just means she wants to require ALL of them to participate, and pay them with taxpayer dollars. You don’t think they would actually do anything productive, do you?
Perhaps she is afraid Soros will quit paying the bill.
Slavery was abolished in 1865. Let it stay abolished.
Don’t you guys have a 13th amendment or something?
It was never actually abolished.
There is a loophole that follows the initial abolishing statement.
Except prisoners held pursuant to a court of law.
So all we need is for a Liberal judge to ok it.
Chain gangs were common for petty crimes.
One of the ironies was Attorney General Albright bragging about the desk she had that was build by prisoners at Allenwood Penitentiary . The Federal Government has a company (Unicor) that competes with private industry using prison labor. States also get in on the act running credit card service centers and other manpower intensive operations since the labor is almost free.
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
Earl Smith, do you consider involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime, slavery?
SMC<===== I'm glad you quoted the 13th Amendment, which does prohibit such things. It should also prohibit the draft, but in one of the few Supreme Court challenges involving the 13th Amendment, the "Justices" dismissed the argument on the basis that "service for a noble cause cannot be considered involuntary." One of the more braindead SCOTUS pronouncements, but one that could be reopened with no problem.
Letting prisoners handle sensitive financial data. There’s a plan that isn’t going to end well.
So there are a few flies in the ointment./sarc
Is involuntary servitude for convicted criminals considered slavery? If so, why does the 13th amendment make a distinction between involuntary servitude and slavery?
Attorney General Albright
Secretary of State
Not to deny your point….
Perhaps the draftee’s can be put to work documenting the carnage to the North American avian population from the windmill cabal.
They could then graph the decline in birds/bats versus the rise in windmill installations over time.
Doubt it.
The climate change we are experiencing today is so small that it takes networks of very sophisticated sensors, decades of even detect it. One must not mix up true climate change with weather cycles that are part of the current climate. There is no climate crisis.
According to the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. So there is nothing for the young to do to fight climate change. The young people would be much better off going to college and training for their careers. If one is serious about significantly reducing CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels. then nuclear energy is the logical alternative and build more nuclear power plants we need more skilled engineers, craftsmen, and construction workers and not a large number of unskilled college age kids.
How would the “Williamson Youth” organization be funded. The federal government is already deep in depth. Maybe Marianne would take away federal funding of education and medical care and instead apply it to her “Williamson Youth” organization of totally useless climate fighters.
According to Marianne Williamson, American people would have to wait until they were 27 to enter college.
Goodness me Marianne, that’s all too hard to organise and will be unpopular. Tell you what: just wave your magic wand and that bad carbon dioxide will go away.
Be careful though. Don’t forget the plants and trees still need some.
I’m thinking that Marianne’s supporters are feeling the heat over their use of illegal aliens to tend to their estates and care of their
childrenspawn; maybe they see it a better use of money to buy a politician who will use the police powers of the State to provide slave labor rather than pay their staff under the table.OTOH, this seems to be a great way to avoid having any adult responsibilities for another year or more. Similar to the Vietnam War, and more recently where the wealthy purchase admission for their children into prestigious universities, Marianne’s scheme seems to be a way to enrich the decision makers who determine what young adult will be assigned to what area of the country and to perform which tasks for certain people.
Think of it as a Nationalized way to distribute slave labor, or to farm for the next generation of Jeffrey Epsteins who need new talent from places other than through the human smuggling via the border.
I can see some wine moms who fantasize having a pool boy tend to their environmentally sustainable water feature on their estate – provided by your Fe’ral Government through this program.
The less attractive ones will be consigned to the Environmentally Sustainable cotton fields and sugar cane plantations.
Political climate change, certainly. Perhaps health care reform for anyone trapped on social media platforms, and education reform for the idly juvenile vexed by climate prophecies.