By Dr. Tim Ball,
Most of the world still believes that humans are causing climate change. The belief persists, despite the evidence of deliberately corrupted science exposed in leaked emails, and consistently failed forecasts. It persists without any empirical evidence. Unnecessary policies and massively expensive policies evolved from the deception of certainty. Carbon taxes and alternative energies that are unable to replace fossil fuels without some massive breakthrough in energy storage capacity continue to drain budgets and divert from solving real problems. The momentum behind this deception is amazing and at present unstoppable. It is driven by a certainty that is supported by concocted evidence from the pre-programmed, pre-determined outcome, computer models. There is no empirical evidence, so how and why does the belief continue? How did the idea gain and maintain this force? I believe, there is one person to blame because he set the tone and created the mantra that facts don’t matter; he made it necessary to maintain the illusion of AGW at all cost. It was so effective that even to ask questions is to put you in a category of societal repulsion. You become one of those “deniers.”
I was very annoyed when I saw the eulogy to Stephen Schneider in the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It reads in part;
The Synthesis Report of the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is dedicated to the memory of Stephen H. Schneider, one of the foremost climate scientists of our time.
Steve Schneider, born in New York, trained as a plasma physicist, embraced scholarship in the field of climate science almost 40 years ago and continued his relentless efforts creating new knowledge in the field and informing policymakers and the public at large on the growing problem of climate change and solutions for dealing with it. At all times Steve Schneider remained intrepid and forthright in expressing his views. His convictions were driven by the strength of his outstanding scientific expertise… His association with the IPCC began with the First Assessment Report which was published in 1990, and which played a major role in the scientific foundation of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. His life and accomplishments have inspired and motivated members of the Core Writing Team of this Report.
The last sentence tells the story but only if you know the complete involvement of Schneider in the greatest deception in history.
The dilemma for all these early advocates of anthropogenic global warming (AGW) was that if they knew climatology, they knew that the work of the IPCC was corrupted science. If they didn’t speak out, they were complicit in the deception. If they didn’t know, and a remarkable number didn’t, then they are incompetent. Often, some only became aware of the deceptive science because of an untoward circumstance, such as associating with a known skeptic.
Schneider knew because he published a book about global cooling in 1976 titled, “The Genesis Strategy” when cooling was the consensus. He wrote,
“There is little food stored to cushion the shock of the kinds of weather problems that so suddenly and unexpectedly damaged crops in 1972, 1974 and 1975, and there is growing evidence that such damaging weather may occur more frequently in the next decade than in the last one. The most imminent and far reaching [danger] is the possibility of a food‐climate crisis that would burden the well to do countries with unprecedented hikes in food prices, but could mean famine and political instability for many parts of the nonindustrialized (sic) world.”
The author of the NYT article summarizes that Schneider was
“…reflecting the consensus of the climatological community in his new book, “The Genesis Strategy.”
I was part of the climate community at the time but knew from the historical records and understanding of underlying mechanisms that this was just another climate cycle. Too many people exploited the pattern of the moment driven by funding, career enhancement or political persuasion. None of them looked at the science or worse and they only picked the science that appeared to confirm their situation. They jumped on what I call the trend wagon and argued it would continue forever. It was wrong, cynical, exploitive and had nothing to do with the amoral and apolitical positions and work that are essential to science.
Stephen Schneider set the tone for what followed. His mendacious, manipulative philosophy entered the public arena with his 1989 interview in Discover magazine, part of which said,
On the one hand we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but& which means that we must include all the doubts, caveats, ifs and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists, but human beings as well. And like most people, we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climate change. To do that we have to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This double ethical bind which we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both.
Sorry Stephen there is no decision between effectiveness and honesty. The fact he could even suggest that there was underscores and exposes the corrupt thinking that created and drove the massive deception. The problem is that people like Schneider are evil geniuses. It one thing to have such ideas, it is another to implement them. It parallels Maurice Strong’s implementation of the idea of “getting rid of the industrialized nations.”
In 1996 Schneider co-chaired a conference that put his idea of being effective without being honest into operation. It was a non-IPCC conference but included all the key players involved in the IPCC corruption ,and the CRU leaked emails. In fact, the conference titled was a manifesto on how to proceed, how to end-run science and the truth in every way. The conference titled “Characterizing and Communicating Scientific Uncertainty.” I urge you to read and weep but learn what Schneider did. Here is the opening paragraph.
Uncertainty, or more generally, debate about the level of certainty required to reach a “firm” conclusion, is a perennial issue in science. The difficulties of explaining uncertainty become increasingly salient as society seeks policy prescriptions to deal with global environmental change. How can science be most useful to society when evidence is incomplete or ambiguous, the subjective judgments of experts about the likelihood of outcomes vary, and policymakers seek guidance and justification for courses of action that could cause significant societal changes? How can scientists improve their characterization of uncertainties so that areas of slight disagreement do not become equated with purely speculative concerns, and how can individual subjective judgments be aggregated into group positions? And then, how can policymakers and the public come to understand this input and apply it in deciding upon appropriate actions? In short, how can the scientific content of public policy debates be fairly and openly assessed?
All the names are here, Santer, Schlesinger, Tol, Karl, MacCracken, and Trenberth with his first probability table (Figure1). It is an attempt to confuse by pretending to clarify.

Figure 1
The inclusion of Schneider’s eulogy and the sentiment it expresses about his influence on them and the entire IPCC process is absolute proof of my thesis. He more than any other person created and drove the biggest deception in history; intellectualized most perversely the concept of uncertainty into certainty and provided the method for converting inadequate and incorrect evidence into a form powerful enough to be the basis of world-changing philosophy and policy.
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Forest for the trees. It’s the Sun, people. From spaceweather.com today:
SOLAR CYCLE UPDATE: An international panel of researchers led by NASA and NOAA has released a new prediction for the solar cycle. According to their analysis, the current solar minimum is going to deepen, potentially reaching a century-class low in the next year or so. This will be followed by a new Solar Max in the years 2023-2026.
There is a persuasive measured relationship of the solar cycle
and the stratosphere.
There is no persuasive measured relationship of the solar cycle
and the troposphere, and certainly not with
Earth’s global average surface temperature.
There is no 11-year temperature cycle,
except in overactive imaginations !
There were Central England cold periods during
minimums, and between minimums, during
the Little Ice Age.
None of the four solar minimums had the expected
temperature pattern, of generally cool weather,
getting COLDER until the minimum ended —
in reality, the actual temperature started rising BEFORE
each minimum ended, which makes no sense.
( I’m assuming Central England temperatures
were accurate enough for any conclusion ).
There is a persuasive measured relationship of the solar cycle
and the stratosphere.
There is no persuasive measured relationship of the solar cycle
and the troposphere, and certainly not with
Earth’s global average surface temperature.
Agree. Hopping on the solar-cycle climate bandwagon is no different IMO than the CO2 bandwagon. The causes of the major climate changes (glacial/interglacial) of the recent past are reasonably well-known now (w/a few caveats), and they have nothing to do w/magnetic solar cycles.
Exactly one year ago today:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/11/solar-activity-crashes-the-sun-looks-like-a-cueball/
There’s a little dark spot
on the Sun Today…
It’s not very big,
but it’s more than a phage…
It’s actually surprisingly large. It also clearly belongs to the sc24 butterfly.
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/img3.htm
It’s the same old thing as yesterday.
“If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”
― W.C. Fields
Who knew that W.C. Fields was providing the blueprint for modern day ‘climate scientists’?
It is BS, Mr. Homer.
I have a BS degree,
so I am an expert
in BS detection !
But it’s “brilliant” BS,
in my opinion, because
so many people believe it.
Consider the use of scientists as props:
— scientists with advanced degrees,
playing computer games (complex
computer models making wrong predictions),
annual wrong scary climate forecasts,
that continue year after year,
in spite of the fact that
the actual climate has been improving
for over 300 years, since the coldest decade
of the Little Ice Age / Maunder Minimum.
When the average temperature fails to rise,
the “gang” just makes another
historical temperature “adjustment”.
There a lot of money being made from
climate change scaremongering,
through government grants, loans and
subsidies.
There’s a lot of political power to be gained
“trying to save the planet for the children”.
Yes, it’s all BS, with very little real science,
and the global warming so far has been
beneficial — “harmless”, if you want to be
a pessimist — but it works on many people.
The best BS Republicans ever did was
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
In a few years people realized that was BS.
The coming global warming disaster
I trace back to Roger Revelle in 1958.
I know the BS didn’t get rolling very fast
until 1988 — but that was over 30 years ago !
A 30+ year science fraud is amazing.
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com
In 2006, the Iraqi Military explained how the weapons were removed from the country. READ the SUN article.
I do not believe most of the world believes in humans causing climate change. However, I do believe that the media and politicians are continuing to inundate people with propaganda to elicit support for their ascension to power and pillaging for money.
I’d argue that the late Dr Schneider had a hand in that sort of thing, too. Back in 2014, I wrote a blog post about his early role in the notion that skeptic climate scientists should not be given equal time by reporters:
“‘Skeptic Climate Scientists Do Not Deserve Fair Media Balance.’ Spread This Line Widely; NEVER Check its Veracity and Don’t Examine its History.”
http://gelbspanfiles.com/?p=1886
Very good Dr. Ball.
For most lay people who somewhat understand the Scientific Method and how it may influence social behavior, it is clearly known that arguments with an opposing viewpoint should be heard. This is where the “science” of Anthropomorphic Global Warming has miserably failed. Even your one voice should be sufficient to bring great cause for doubt for the subsequent “climate alarm-ism”. But no, your voice, along with thousands of other like-minded people are amazingly ignored. AGW (CAGW) is not science, it is politics – lying, fetid politics, and an attempt to subvert freedom, especially in the good old USA.
Well said that man
Succeeded, not failed. When subjected to critical scrutiny, demands for validated theory it must immediately collapse. The fact it’s been going for 31 years is a sign that refusing to debate, appeal to authority, and disparaging critics with slander is the only way to keep it going. But, … sc25, 26, and 27 are coming soon. The next 33 years are likely to be interesting climate times.
Here is some interesting read
1989 Nov 8
Margaret Thatcher
Speech to United Nations General Assembly (Global Environment) rem:(and global warming)
https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/107817
Thanks!
What a whole pile of conjecture!
The Ozone hole is also controlled by the Sun, not by Humans….
http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/OzoneHole.pdf
Movement of the Earth’s magnetic poles…
https://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/historical_declination/
I have pointed out many times, and often as a comment to Ball’s articles, that it was Margaret Thatcher who pushed the idea into international politics.
https://john-daly.com/history.htm
Thatcher jumped too quickly on the climate issue for short-run gain. Then she quickly and completely corrected herself. She got “mugged by reality,” as they say. She saw in the climate movement an “ugly … anti-growth, anti-capitalistic, anti-American” political agenda had emerged.
Thatcher is a disappointment to red-green environmentalists, who preferred socialism to her privatizations. Her enthusiasm for green issues soon evaporated. In retirement she had nothing more to say about the environment until her 2002 memoirs, when she rejected Al Gore and what she called “his ‘doomist’ predictions.”*
“The doomsters’ favorite subject today is climate change. This has a number of attractions for them. First, the science is extremely obscure so they cannot easily be proved wrong. Second, we all have ideas about the weather. Third, since clearly no plan to alter climate could be considered on anything but a global scale, it provides a marvelous excuse for worldwide, supra-national socialism … the lack of any sense of proportion is what characterizes many pronouncements on the matter by otherwise sensible people. The fact that seasoned politicians can say such ridiculous things – and get away with it – illustrates the degree to which the new dogma about climate change has swept through the left-of-centre governing classes…”
In her notes, Thatcher expressed gratitude for the fact that “the issues have been clearly analysed and debated by scholars in the United States.”
—
*14 Jul. 2018: James Hansen Finally Admits Theory Is Wrong
The scientist widely known as the “Father of Global Warming” has admitted for the first time that data used to promote his climate change theory was false and fraudulently manipulated by Al Gore to suit an agenda …. According to Hansen, Al Gore took the data provided in a “worst-case scenario” and intentionally twisted it, rebranding it as “Global Warming,” making tens of millions of dollars in the process. Hansen admits he is “devastated” by the way his data has been used by climate alarmists.
https://newspunch.com/global-warming-scientist-theory/
“According to Hansen, Al Gore took the data provided in a “worst-case scenario” and intentionally twisted it, rebranding it as “Global Warming,” making tens of millions of dollars in the process.
Did Hanson actually say that? Can anyone quote his exact words?
Thatcher made the speech at behest of CAGW Godfather Crispin Tickell
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/11/was-climate-change-alarmism-always-about-fears-of-overpopulation/#comment-2623744
James Hansen’s speech to Congress in 1988 and Thatcher’s speech to UN marked the Public Launch of the CAGW Hoax, although the agenda had long been in planning out of the public eye.
Environmentalism is just a new form of Leftism, invented and fostered by East German Stasis who supported and funded their moles in West Germany, Petra Kelly and her husband Gert Bastian, the leaders of the West-German Greens. All else, including Schneider, IPCC, AOC, Kerry, EU energy politics, &c., grows from that poisoned root.
Having realized they could not match capitalist growth, prosperity, and freedoms with their defective economic and political system, the Greens inverted the whole value pyramid: for them now growth, prosperity, and freedom are all bad, no longer something promised, something to strive for. The goal is a retarded totalitarian society that has destroyed its own infrastructure and sources of wealth, and descended into pre-industrial poverty and disease. Think Khmer Rouge, but on a much grander scale.
It’s like anything that might once have been worthwhile or simply popular – it’s co-opted and prostituted for just the agenda you described.
OMG! First time I’ve seen the range for the term “Extremely Confident”. Reminds me of binomial calculators. A cumulative probability refers to the probability that the value of a random variable falls within a specified range. And because of that definition, you can be extremely confident that no matter what the outcome, you predicted it within your specified range. That range could be cold to hot. Okee dokee! You are extremely confident it will be cold or hot or anywhere in-between.
I am gob-smacked!
Pretty sure it means the two extremes are extremely confident, as in 99% is extremely sure it’s right and 1% is extremely sure it’s wrong. However, the word confident seems to take in a lot of ground.
I like people who make intelligent comments
and also throw in a funny word or two, like “gob-smacked”,
which I had to look up because no one I know in the US
ever said that.
We used to say: “flabbergasted” here,
which is a pretty funny word too.
When I mention some real climate
science to a Democrat / socialist,
and suddenly they get that
“deer-in-the-headlights” look,
I describe them as “dumbstruck”,
or just “dumb”.
Having brain damage from West Nile, I am extremely happy that I said something someone else says is intelligent. Especially this week. On Tuesday I thought it was Monday and today I thought it was Wednesday. Which means that Tuesday I forgot what I did Monday, and Thursday I forgot what I did Wednesday. Short term memory loss sucks ass!
I was right! In the link provided in the post, it says this:
“13 A cumulative probability is the sum (or integral) of the probabilities (or densities) less than or equal to some value. For example, one might compute the probability that the temperature increase due to global warming is less than or equal to 3°C.”
They mark that with the term “Extremely Confident”. Slight. Of. Hand! So it could be from nada all the way to OMG!
Gob-smacked again!
The confidence levels “high (75%), very high(95%), and Extremely high(99%)” are statistical nonsense.
Say for example, you were to board an airplane and there was a 75% chance the plane would not crash. Would you have high confidence and board the plane, knowing there is a 25% chance of a crash?
75% means that 1/4 of the time your conclusions are wrong. Would any reasonable person have high confidence in this result? If so, contact Boeing.
Even the 99% (Extremely High) confidence level is no reason to be confident. Your airplane is still going to crash 1 in 100 times. Yet climate sciences operates at 95% confidence. 5 times out of 100 the plane will crash; or your tax money will have been wasted.
Statistically, 99.7% is 3 standard deviations. Anything between 0.3% and 99.7% is considered “likely” for randomly selected data. So, if you go looking for evidence of something, there is a very good chance you will find it, even if the evidence is a false positive.
It is only when you look at the very, very small range, when the data is outside of 0.3% and 99.7%, that you find the unexpected. And when you find the unexpected that allows you to have some confidence in the result.
The crisis in “false positives”, the inability to replicate 50% of all peer reviewed papers, is a direct result of the mis-application of statistics. The false confidence that results from misapplication of confidence intervals. The mistaken belief that observation of expected and likely results in some fashion is strong proof.
When you observe something that is expected and likely, what does this prove? Only in the weakest sense that something might be true. It is when we observe the very unlikely, the very unexpected that we have the basis for a strong evidence something might be true.
Ferd:
“The confidence levels “high (75%), very high(95%),
and Extremely high(99%)” are statistical nonsense”.
What statistics?
What math?
What science?
They just took a vote — a show of hands,
to decide how close to 100% they should
claim.
I happen have inside information
that the last IPCC vote was for 102% confidence,
so that even if a few scientists changed their minds,
the number would still be 100%, or close.
However, after a thorough investigation, it was determined
that 102% confidence was impossible, and must have
been caused by several scientists raising BOTH hands
during the “show of hands confidence vote”, so they
arbitrarily decided to use 95%, rather than 102%.
The IPCC has never seen a number they did not
want to “adjust”.
The last IPCC report used 95%. The next one should be priceless, maybe 102%.
You’re confusing statistical confidence with risk vs consequence.
In fact, your airplane analogy works in favor of climate alarmists. I mean even if you’re 95% sure that there’s no catastrophic global warming, there’s a 5% chance there is…so how “confident” are you that we should be emitting greenhouse gases?
100%.
+10
=110%!
A one in twenty chance of civilisation collapse? Is that all it is. Come in spinner.
The Israel’s spacecraft crashed on the moon surface.
this proves that man didn’t go to the moon 50 yrs ago \sarc
So it landed on the moon?
Consider for a moment, Galileo dropping two different objects of different weights. The result was very unexpected, as the classical notion for nearly 2000 years was that the heavier object would fall faster. It was this very unexpected result that gave rise to a rewriting of science.
What if however Galileo had compared the objects statistically? Say he took objects made of wood, iron, lead. He could easily have found that probably 95% of the time that the heavier objects fall faster than the lighter objects.
Using the exact same methodology as climate science, Galileo could have set science back another 2000 years. The earth would still be the center of the universe. Newton would never have happened. Einstein would have been burned at the stake for heresy.
There is much in this article that I could argue about, but none of it is important. The climate crisis myth was certainly created, and spread like wildfire. What is important is figuring out what to do about it now.
How do we reverse the effects of the crimes of Schneider and his many accomplices?
That is the only thing that sane people (a.k.a. the not crazy people) should be working toward. I’m afraid we are very close to the edge and will not ever be able to stop the nonsense. Since the “global cooling” crap argument fell apart years ago, and the “global warming” crap argument failed, we now have “climate change”, whatever that means. This fear has been taught to our children for at least 25 years now and we see the results everywhere. E.g., Alexandria O-Cortez and her babbling nonsense. Unfortunately when the dinosaurs like Pelosi, Shumer, and their gang, all die off we will be left with these twits who will spend, regulate, and control our lives until everyone dies. Or more likely, when they’ve weakened us enough, the Chinese will simple take over the world financially and crush us. Essentially we will become nothing more than another Mexico. I hope I’m long gone before it happens.
You can’t discount the role Hansen has played and at the very least, they were co-conspirators among many. Hansen’s malfeasance is legendary, from disabling the AC on a hot day when he was giving a presentation on climate change to his role in misapplying Bode’s feedback analysis to the climate. It seems like he would do anything to redeem himself of the ridicule he received from the Reagan and first Bush administrations for his climate alarmism, which at the time hadn’t even been supported by misinterpreting the Vostok ice core data.
While Schneider played a significant role, it’s hard to point to one individual as the driving force behind climate alarmism when it seems to have been a collusion of interests with a variety of motivations which contributes to why the supporting ‘science’ has remained so broken for so long.
Agree. Hansen was more useful to them too. Especially his (1) pro-nuclear advocacy. This brought over a load of pro-nukes to the climate scam side. Because Hansen is not so obviously eco-nutty, his “science” gets a free pass from criticism. (2) His greenhouse gas model is the “consensus model” and is 100% wrong. Too many people are conned into thinking the ‘greenhouse gas effect’ is in the same ballpark as alarmist projections imagine. We hear: ECS is not 3; it’s 1 or just above. Wrong. There’s no evidence that ECS is even a thing; let alone that more CO2 has any warming influence worth measuring.
In UK, I blame establishment & media physicists most: Rees, Hawking, Jim Al-Khalili, Brian Cox for promoting this post-normal climate science.
Mark P,
The evidence that the ECS is not zero is the fact that 240 W/m^2 of forcing from the Sun results in an average of about 390 W/m^2 emitted by the surface. Since the climate system can not tell one Joule of forcing from any other, all Joules have the same effect, including the next one. Each W/m^2 of forcing then contributes towards an average of a little more than 600 mw of excess surface emissions beyond the 1 W/m^2 of emissions per W/m^2 of forcing characteristic of an ideal black body.
The ECS of an ideal black body is given exactly by 1/(4oT^3), where o is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant. The ECS of a non ideal black body representative of the Earth is a gray body with an emissivity of about e = (255/288)^4 = 240/390 = 0.62 whose exact quantification for the sensitivity to incremental solar input (what the IPCC calls forcing) is 1(4oeT^4). Plug in 288K as the average T and e=240/390, the sensitivity becomes about 0.3C per W/m^2. The IPCC claims doubling CO2 is equivalent to 3.7 W/m^2 of forcing, thus 3.7*.3 = 1.1C, although I have reason to believe that the 3.7 W/m^2 is over-estimated by as much as a factor of 2. The approximate 1C effect is not arbitrary, but has a relatively solid foundation in the laws of physics. Interestingly enough, the ECS of an ideal BB at the 255K emission temperature of the planet is also about 0.3C.
The IPCC idea of forcing via IR is in conflict with the specific heat of CO2. The specific heat tables for air and CO2 do not have a caveat saying the specific heat equation needs to be augmented if IR is involved.
Anthony’s CO2 jar experiment demonstrated that increasing CO2 does not cause an increase in temperature.
If climate science is correct there must be a change in the specific heat of air now that we are at 400 ppm, but that still leaves CO2.
Internal energy is a function of temperature. Cv dT = du
mkelly,
“The IPCC idea of forcing via IR is in conflict with the specific heat of CO2. ”
The specific heat of CO2 and that of the rest of the matter being heated by the Sun is independent of the definition of forcing or the sensitivity. The specific heat affects the rate that equilibrium is achieved, but not what that equilibrium must be. The specific heat affects the Joules required for a specific temperature change, while W/m^2 are the rate at which Joules are delivered and emitted and which are balanced in the steady state.
That being said, there is an ambiguity in the IPCC’s definition of forcing, but this has to do with claiming that an instantaneous increase in solar energy as equivalent to an instantaneous increase in atmospheric absorption on a Watt by Watt basis. Both instantaneous effects are consistent with the IPCC definition of forcing.
The issue is that all of the incremental solar input affects the surface temperature while only about half of what the atmosphere absorbs has an effect, the remaining half being emitted into space contributing to the radiant balance at TOA and not the radiant balance at the surface.
BTW, the internal heat of the atmosphere is a consequence of the surface temperature and not its cause.
co2: When your mind is grappling with theory and empirical data that do not give any confidence that you are on the right track, if a revered, longtime expert in the field comes along and tells you how to make it okay to be grossly uncertain and gives you “confidence” in the collective subjective “knowledge” of experienced practitioners that should be “legitimized” as data in the “confident range, it relaxes the demands of critical thinking and integrity.
Such a loosening of the bonds of self discipline, in turn, leads to even sloppier research work and more outrageous claims than Schneider probably initially thought about. This eventually opens doors to manipulating and tailoring observational data, to fit the theory, removing all constraints and uncertainties. Hey cooking results has given these climate artisans 6 sigma certainty that we have put the planet and all its inhabitants in grave peril within 12 years.
Yeah, make no mistake. Schneider threw science under the bus. The kicker was that it was all for a good cause, the stuff of heroes. That most of the practitioners in Climate Science appear to be lesser minds than Schneider, was probably understood by him, too.
I believe it was then Senator Tim Worth who opened the windows the night before and had the AC settings adjusted.
Tim Wirth, who was an avowed climate alarmist (a Democrat), was the organizer of the testimony where Hansen was the primary witness. If it was Wirth who used his access to open the windows and adjust the AC, it’s certain that Hansen and likely Gore were both in on the scam, especially given how much coaching occurs between Congressmen and the witnesses they choose to promote their agenda. Wirth admitted that it was all stagecraft, but it doesn’t seem that he ever claimed that it was his idea.
https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases-all?ID=b6a8baa3-802a-23ad-4650-cb6a01303a65
You’re dealing with Gaia worshippers, “concerned” scientists lining their pockets with government funding, and die-hard haters of capitalism (about half the human race). And all the major media have bought in hook, line, and sinker. How much impact will facts have in this situation? NONE.
Not only is the Earths temperature determined by the Sun’s Activity (Indirectly), but it turns out, the Ozone Hole is also determined by the Suns Activity in a similar way. See Paullitely.com for the details.
I have always had problems with the confidence, probability, possibility etc. and other wezel words given for the basis for prognosticated climate change. They just did not seem to fit with what I was taught in Applied Statistics. However as I took that course over 50 years ago I thought things had changed. They always seemed to imply a “95% probability with a 95% confidence level to all predictions. When you consider that a “loose” slot machine pays out 95% of the time and will empty your bank in one evening. Giving all of that 5% profit to the casino.
Whatever happened to the idea that if observations or careful experiment do not support your theory then your theory is wrong. If it has no predictive skills it is wrong. Subjectivity caries zero weight in the argument (even “collective” subjectivity or consensus doesnt carry any weight).
I wonder what would happen if a million dollar award was available for a description of the theory, the evidence for its robustness and half a dozen predictions in effects and time from it.
My 1st thought: What a great idea to have a $1m award for “proving” the AGW theory.
My 2nd thought: No, the reward would just be automatically given to some AGW believer.
My 3rd thought: Well, not if the judges were mostly skeptics.
My 4th thought: But then no AGW believer would submit his theory.
My 5th thought: Go ahead and seek funding for such a prize, but instead of restricting it to just AGW “science,” open it up to a skeptic’s theory and climate predictions over, say, the next 30 years; with the money going to his heirs if he’s not around to collect the prize money.
Perhaps I’m missing something but it seems to me that if the hypothesis of AGW is correct, we should see a pattern in the long term climate record with CO2 increasing or decreasing, and then temperature increasing or decreasing on a time scale of years or decades. The Vostok ice core is said to give us proxy data for temperature and CO2 going back 420,000 years, and there are large changes in both temperature and CO2 levels recorded in the ice. But as I understand it, the Vostok proxies show temperature first increasing or decreasing, followed many hundreds of years later by CO2 increasing or decreasing. So if there is a cause & effect relationship between CO2 and temperature, is it not true that it can only be temperature as cause, and CO2 as effect, not the other way around?
Doesn’t the ice core data definitively disconfirm the hypothesis that human activity, increasing CO2 in the atmosphere, causes increasing temperatures in the atmosphere within a few decades? Or is there some factor I’m missing?
I have to agree with you. Further, if CO2 is the ‘driver’ of change, why do we get colder when CO2 is at its highest levels?
You do realize the antarctic ice is no older than 6000 years, the ancient chinese on their voyages around the world mapped the arctic and antarctic ice free.
brian, you forgot your /sarc tag.
This should help your understanding.
chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/http://static.berkeleyearth.org/pdf/annual-with-forcing.pdf
“Doesn’t the ice core data definitively disconfirm the hypothesis that human activity, increasing CO2 in the atmosphere, causes increasing temperatures in the atmosphere within a few decades? Or is there some factor I’m missing?”
Yes, there is something you’re missing: they effect each other.
How does the ice core data support the claim that CO2 drives temperature?
There is some factor you are missing.
Any idea what that factor might be?
The driving force behind Climate Change and Global Warming is funding and un-natural selection.
Academics are like buddhist priests. They walk around in distinctive robes with their hands out, professing wisdom and piety. Unless someone feeds them, they must return to life with the rest of us or perish.
Thus, the science is driven by those that control the funding, which ultimately is politics.
Excellent Fred. As long as the predictions pan out, more power for the priests. During the Medieval Warm Period, Cambodia (the Khmer empire) thrived, creating enough spare people power to build Angkor Wat and thousands of wannabes. The Buddhist church owned 80% of the real estate.
The same thing happened to the Incas, when the Urubamba valley suddenly got warmer and wetter with the Medieval Warm Period. The priests whose predictions panned out became the wealthiest class as the empire flourished. It all came crashing down with the arrival of the Spaniards just as the weather was turning colder. They in turn built their capital for the Americas in Cusco, a garden paradise, just in time for the Maunder Minimum, during which they retreated to Lima on the coast.
So, any priesthood who can predict the future by virtue of their special relationship with the gods will be rewarded as long as their string lasts. When the tide turns, they are he first to go.
This proves that man didn’t go to the moon 50 yrs ago \sarc
It is highly probable that the summaries for policy makers of the latest IPCC reports are driven more by conviction than by research with a higher input from copy writers than from scientists and that is worrying. They are written to convince not to assess.
It is all one gigantic confidence game. “You can trust us – we’re scientists!”
There is excellent evidence that most published research findings, in all of science, are wrong.
There is one field where the replication of published findings is routine. That is drug research. Drug companies scan the literature looking for any new science that can be turned into a saleable product. The first thing they do when they find something promising, is to try to reproduce the experiment.
Bayer and Amgen found that they could not reproduce the vast majority of published research findings. link
Science is in bad shape for a variety of reasons. The take away is that we should be very selective about when to trust scientists. They’re actually a pretty craven and corrupt bunch.
What is unfathomable is that the IPCC’s confidence in the hypothesis of human-caused CO2 driven warming has increased from confident to very confident to extremely confident even though their CO2 driven temperature predication models have been shown to diverge further and further from actual temperatures over time. They’ve got it completely bas-ackwards.
“What is unfathomable is that the IPCC’s confidence in the hypothesis of human-caused CO2 driven warming has increased from confident to very confident to extremely confident even though their CO2 driven temperature predication models have been shown to diverge further and further from actual temperatures over time. ”
The UN is very confident that there is a LOT of money to be made and power to be gained by continuing with the AGW/ACC hoax. They could not care less about real science.
“It is an attempt to confuse by pretending to clarify.”
I might say:
“It was an attempt to obscure by pretending that their over-simplification was accurate.”
Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.
Sorry Stephen there is no decision between effectiveness and honesty.
They jumped on what I call the trend wagon and argued it would continue forever.
Two excellent points