Bangkok Part Deux: “You’ll Get Nothing and Like It!”

Guest hit & run by David Middleton

This is sort of a sequel to Eric Worrall’s post on the Bangkok Blame Trump Climate Conference…

Rich Nations Vowed Billions for Climate Change. Poor Countries Are Waiting.

By Mike Ives
Sept. 9, 2018

HONG KONG — When industrialized nations pledged in 2009 to mobilize $100 billion a year by 2020 to help the poorest countries deal with climate change, it won over some skeptics in the developing world who had argued that rich nations should pay up for contributing so much to the problem.

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The meeting in Bangkok of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change is a prelude to a larger one in December in Poland, where countries will try to set rules for carrying out the 2015 Paris climate accord.

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The Green Climate Fund was designed to help developing countries prepare for climate disasters and develop low-fossil-fuel economies. It was part of a larger plan, led by Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state in 2009, to put together $100 billion a year for poor economies through a combination of government contributions and private investments.

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The Obama administration delivered $1 billion of a $3 billion pledge to the program. But last year, Mr. Trump, while announcing plans to exit the Paris accord, said the United States would no longer pay into the Green Climate Fund.

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NY Times

Note to Mr. Ives and the gaggle of Third World Climate Poverty Pimps in Bangkok… This “rich nation” didn’t promise you anything.  Barrack Hussein Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton promised you money… However, they never submitted any of those personal commitments to Congress for ratification as a treaty, enabling legislation or appropriations.  You only got the $1 billion because Obama was able to scrape it together from State Department discretionary funding.

Mr. Obama is now, thankfully, a former president and Ms. Clinton, THANKFULLY, got her @$$ kicked (winning only 19.5 States = @$$ kicked) in the 2016 election.  Send the bill to them.

Because President Donald J. Trump says…

Bonus Round

Southeast Asia is a case in point.

People who live in the Asia-Pacific region are “particularly vulnerable” to the effects of a changing climate, the Asian Development Bank said last year in a report, which projected Southeast Asia to be “most affected by heat extremes” in the wider area by the end of the century.

Projected???

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50 thoughts on “Bangkok Part Deux: “You’ll Get Nothing and Like It!”

  1. When it wasn’t hot and shitty it was cold and shitty; try laying all night in a rice paddy ambush during a monsoon.

  2. Wondering how much of that $1b filtered back to Obama.

    More seriously. We are a nation of laws. The Paris Climate “Agreement” was a treaty in every aspect. That required Senate advice and consent. Without that process the $1b transfer was embezzlement.

      • Obama claimed the 2nd payment came from unspent FY2016 funds, even though the transfer payment was made on 18 Jan 2017, almost 4 months after FY16 ended.

        It was clearly an illegal transfer, but being only 2 days before he left office, he knew there was nothing anyone could do to stop him.

        History will ultimately put it down as just one more of Obama’s many lawless actions.

      • ” … $1b sitting around in petty cash.”

        Tip of the ice shelf, Dave Fair. There was also that little matter of 1,700,000,000 USD paid out in currency, small bills, euros, etc. to Iran. Same kind of money though, no “use of funds” mechanisms. I wonder how many other stacks of cash our government has sitting around.

        Strange behavior for a “bully nation” – the USA. I wish the bullies I’ve encountered treated me like that.

  3. The US should simply cut $1 billion from any proposed contributions to the UN to make up for the illegal transfer of funds by Obama. It should then quit the UN and ask it to find some other location.

    • Unfortunate, but it’s hard to kick the U.N. out of that building, since the land was deeded directly to them. But we could build a wall around it, a “big beautiful wall” after all Trump is a builder, that’s what he does.

      • Fine, let them have the building but slap a property tax on it large enough to pay back the $1 billion that Obama embezzled into the green climate fund (plus interest). When they refuse to pay the property tax bill, do what is always done with those who fail to pay their property taxes: impound the property and evict the dead-beats. Either we get our $1 billion back or we get to kick the UN out. It’s a win-win.

        • Refuse to recognize the diplomatic credentials of the UN delegates – remove their diplomatic immunity. Call them a multinational special interest group. Then let the New York State and NYC apply the applicable tax burdens on the structure.

      • Well all those UN diplomats (delegates) are running around NYC with diplomatic passports. Declare them all persona non-grata. Then Force the UN to sell the land.

    • Personally, I think the US should remain in the UN and keep them under our thumb for the foreseeable future, thwarting their every effort to Socialize (Communize) the world and bringing an end to any likelihood of an Agenda 21 situation

      • Which is the genius of Trump using the 3 year Paris Agreement withdrawal timeline. Trump’s COP delegates can continue to troll them at all their meetings, hailing the virtues of coal and natural gas.

      • The UN is all about the being able to bash the USA while at the same time demanding money from the USA. Without the USA it would disappear. What would be the point for the small dictator nations if they couldn’t bash a Democratic Republic, and get money out of that Republic as well, for local misspending.

    • The reason the UN is almost useless is because each nation acts in its own best interest, and the interests of the worlds’ nations are not aligned.

      If you want an effective international body advancing the cause of good governance, you need to restrict membership to nations who are practicing good governance. Free, democratic nations have aligned interests and can act together to accomplish good.

      Selective membership in a new international group is the key.

  4. I suggest re-directing the bill to California, Washington state, and New York. They are rich and they can afford it.

    • If Tom Steyer and George Soros would put their many billion$ of personal money where their big fat mouths are, they could pay it. But they have no problem lobbying Democrat’s to spend OPM.

      • One of the problems to deal with are NGOs and private super rich people engaging in foreign policy. Bloomberg’s paying of some Paris agreement fee should be challenged in court.
        He has no authority or right to pay a US Govt. bill to a foreign govt.

        • It’s not a US government bill. It was never ratified by Congress, thus the US is not bound by it and does not owe anything. B.O. on the other hand agreed to it, so if anything it’s B.O’s bill not the US’s

  5. The truly perverse thing is people acting as if Obama actually did Paris as a treaty, and the Senate actually ratified it. Executive agreements, which was the rationale behind what Obama actually did, expire with that President’s term unless the later Presidents agree.

    • Indeed. And Obama thought Hillary would be the “later President” and thus would agree. How did that work out for ya Barry?

      • Obama thought he had the fix in for Hillary with the FBI, the CIA, and his DOJ running the Russia collusion story and initiating a concocted criminal investigation to slow leak to the press. Now they’ve been in panic mode trying to cover up their dirty Chicago style tactics.

      • Bazza (Aussie slang for Barry) apparently stated that of all the Australian Prime Ministers he met during his terms the only one he didn’t like was Tony Abbott. He was all very pally with Gillard though. Maybe because she too was a crooked lawyer.

        • You’d have to go to Kenya for the later – at least according to Obama’s literary agent:

          Acton & Dystel’s 1991 promotional booklet has this to say of Barry’s birthplace:
          “Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii”

          😉

    • Tom, Yea it is sort of like the federal budget passed by Congress. Most people don’t know that since 2007 federal budgets have either been by Continuing Resolutions or like the latest an Omnibus Bill, none by Regular Order. Right now Republicans have budget bills done by Regular Order ready, but I am betting the Democrats will stop them and accuse the Republicans of shutting down the government. Ignorance of how are government is suppose to work is bad enough, but not knowing how it really works may end up being fatal.

      • Yea it is sort of like the federal budget passed by Congress. Most people don’t know that since 2007 federal budgets have either been by Continuing Resolutions or like the latest an Omnibus Bill, none by Regular Order.

        House and Senate expect to get the regular order proper” budget bills through both bodies.
        There is still too much fluff, too many soapboxes and too much much waste though.

    • Plus 1: And to think, they call Trump a fascist by undoing fascist-like unilateral presidential orders with his pen.

        • How? 🙂 Easy, At least Trump “will go down as being a president” (albeit with a “magic want/eraser).
          Oh how phrases like: magic wand, a phone and a pen, and more have come back to haunt Barry.

  6. rich nations should pay up for contributing so much to the problem

    Of course they did.
    They absolutely did. Climate Change came right slap bang out of the middle of Rich Nations..
    The only slight problem is that The Problem only exists inside the heads of folks in the Rich Nations and thence, when they go on to program up (super – what other sort would *possibly* suffice) computers.
    To reflect their thinking. That is all computers do. They are not capable of original thought. Climate Scientists let the computers do Virtual Thinking

    So there we have it and as went past on here recently, The Warmist Scientist told us, plain & simple, that Climate Change was/is a Virtual Problem.
    That is: Not real
    Find that man and get him to pass on the virtual message and THEN, the Rich Nations can pay the ‘poor nations’ with Virtual (not real) Money
    Easy.
    Anyone with digital camera to photograph a dollar bill and a printer attached to their computer can start printing some now, stuff it into a brown envelope and send it off.

    The ecstatic recipients could even save the brown envelopes and cook them up into a nice nutritious stew.
    Better than eating rice any day, thatz fo’sure.

    Everybody = Happy

    I may crack World Peace soon yanno…
    😀

    • “rich nations should pay up for contributing so much to the problem”

      We’ll do that as soon as they agree to forgo all of the economic benefits they have derived from these actions of the rich countries.

  7. so a $100 billion a year…in 10 years…is $1000 billion

    It would be a lot cheaper to just buy these shitholes outright…./snark

    I have very little sympathy for any of them….evolution was not a secret

  8. So when will the second, possibly soon to be first, economy and the primary emitter of CO2 be asked to contribute? Meanwhile they’re also building throughout the world about one coal fired energy plant a day? The world is ignoring this elephant in the room. We must save the world but the most egregious polluter and provider of CO2 (a problem in their eyes) gets a bye? People need to wake up to the obvious scam.

      • I’m with you on the more CO2 part, but I’m concerned that those Chinese plants don’t have decent SO2 scrubbers on them. Maybe I’m wrong, and they are up to US pollution standards, but I have doubts given their track record in such things.

  9. That’s a whole heap of despot palaces just got scratched. If I were one of those despots I’d be sending Barry the architect’s invoices with a note to say ten days to pay in full or we’ll be paying you a little visit.

  10. Those “poor” countries, notably China, Thailand, and Vietnam, also account for the majority of the plastic in the oceans. When are they going to pay back the rest of the world for their damage? We’re waiting for our ocean plastic cash. You can take it out of your ill-gotten $1B from Obama, if you wish.

  11. “won over some skeptics in the developing world “ wonder which phone booth they have their monthly meetings in?

  12. What’s wrong with asking wealthy countries for money to spend on a good cause and then corruptly channeling it to any blasted thing corrupt governmental officials might desire — like yachts and whores? /sarc

    I’m not saying that all leaders of benefiting countries WOULD use the money for yachts and whores, but I wonder what accountability reports would be in place to guarantee that any money WAS spent for the purposes for which it would be collected.

    Too distrusting? Sorry, I live in the real world.

  13. Let’s see, we take money from the poor people of rich countries, and give it to the rich people of the poor countries.
    Everybody wins!

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