Sea Level Rise; A Major Non-Existent Threat Exploited by Alarmists and Politicians

Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

I know there are many articles on this website about sea level, none better than the recent one by David Middleton that speaks about “More nonsense about sea level rise.” I thought his article would make the continuance of this article unnecessary. It doesn’t because it is written for the WUWT readers. Unfortunately, too many of them like most of the public, scientists, and media don’t know what is involved in creating the net result that is sea level. I think because they don’t know, that it is time for something more basic as a citizen’s template for fighting city hall. Citizens of Honolulu are the most recent victims of this as the Mayor of Honolulu directs the City to prepare for a 3-foot sea level rise in some undetermined time period. It was reinforced during a recent radio interview when a caller asked about it because his city was planning to spend millions on structures to anticipate sea level rise. I provided a few facts about changes in sea level, scientifically called eustasy, and all the other mechanisms that could explain that change.

Let’s start with the automatic assumption by the public and the media that any major environmental issue, like global warming, glaciers melting, or sea level rising, is due to human activity. It reflects that bias, but also how little they know about all the natural causes of change. The simple assumption is that sea level rise is due to anthropogenic global warming (AGW) causing increased melting of glaciers adding more water to the oceans. In reality, just as with climate change, there is a multitude of causes, and few people know very little about any of them, and even those that do know have a quite limited understanding. As one group of scientists explained;

“a wide range of explanations for the current observed rise in sea level is possible.”

In 1997, before it sold out to sensationalism to survive as a science journal for the public, Scientific American, took a reasoned look at the issue. Figure 1 shows the cover story.

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Figure 1

The conclusion they reached was illustrated in the story accompanying a picture of Holland because it was considered at greatest risk (Figure 2). Remember, this was before the UN exploited the South Pacific Islands by offering money in return for their collective votes in support of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change agenda.

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Figure 2

The caption is a good starting point toward understanding how this issue was distorted, misrepresented, and exploited. The extent to which this was an ideal vehicle for scaring the public about AGW is reflected in how it dominates Al Gore’s propaganda movie An Inconvenient Truth. A central, dramatic, feature included computer simulations of water inundating Florida and other areas.

Like everything related to the AGW deception the sea level issue began with a grossly simplistic position. It was based on the changes in sea level reconstructed since the zenith of the last glaciation that showed sea level rose approximately 120 meters with most of the increase occurring between 14,000 and 8000 years ago (Figure 3).

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Figure 3

It is important to note that the last 8000 years covered most of the Holocene Optimum when temperatures were warmer than today for over 90% of the time. A recent study indicates temperatures as high as 6°C warmer than today 9000 years ago at Svalbard, Arctic North Atlantic. The question is why didn’t the rate of melt of the previous 6000 years continue? Regardless, early estimates of sea level rise and those made for future change, take the entire volume of ice, melt it down and add the volume of water to the existing sea level.

In the week before Gore received a Nobel Prize for his propaganda movie, a UK court ruled there were nine scientific errors some of which were created to enhance “the context of alarmism and exaggeration”. One of these was his claim of sea level rise of up to 20 feet “in the near future”. The Judge wrote, “This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr. Gore’s “wake up call”. He noted that even if Greenland melted the water would be released, “but only after, and over millennia.” The judge also spoke to the claim of the threat to low-lying inhabited Pacific islands. Gore claimed they are, “being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming” and evacuations are occurring. The Court said there was no evidence of any evacuations. Gore exaggerates future levels well beyond his fellow Nobel Prize winners at the IPCC. Why haven’t they challenged his claims?

Unfortunately, few people know of the Court ruling, but even if they did, the debate is so ill-informed that sea level rise continues as a major concern? But what are the facts? What do we know? The facts, as usual, show what is happening is perfectly normal with no evidence of a human influence. Some of the following information is known to a few specialist scientists but the majority, like almost all the public, including most scientists, have little or no knowledge.

Sea level is not level. Most people can’t get their minds around this idea because water is frequently used as a measure of ‘level.’ Water on one side of the bowl will be at the same level as water on the other side. The belief is that if the water is all in one body, then it will be level in all areas. Confusingly, that is nowhere near the case with the Oceans. For example, sea level is different at each end of the Panama Canal, yet the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans are connected at both ends of the Americas. This is an important point because you might think the difference is due to the proximity of the land. It isn’t, as sea level varies considerably in the open ocean.

One cause is changes in atmospheric pressure. The weight of the atmosphere pressing down on the surface pushes the water down and causes it to flow out to other areas. Since air pressure varies considerably all the time, then the sea level varies accordingly. We see and can measure, this effect when the bulge caused in the region of very low pressure associated with hurricanes comes ashore and creates what is called a tidal surge. Sea level can rise several meters over very large areas under large low-pressure systems. As the system moves the sea level changes, and in low lying areas, causes flooding.

The water level will vary with wind speed. It is called a set-up and occurs measurably even in lakes. For example, lake levels in the south end of Lake Winnipeg (Figure 4) can be 2 meters higher in the south end with a steady northwest wind over a couple of days.

On the oceans, most people know waves and their size are a function of winds blowing over a stretch of water called a reach, but few think about the ‘piling up’ of water. Of course, if it increases the sea level in one area, it is decreasing the level in another. Some know the general pattern of surface winds also create surface ocean currents. Few know those currents, due to the frictional effect of the wind only extends down about 1000 meters, below that the circulation is very different, primarily being a function of cold water sinking at the Poles and rising at the Equator.

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Figure 4.

Some scientists show that gravity differences cause variations in sea level. Figure 5 shows an image produced from satellite data. As the author notes,

It is clear from this image, sea ‘level’ actually changes in height with spatial variations of 100m over the oceans.

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Figure 5

A discussion of the interaction between sea level and gravity are provided in a 2002 paper that notes,

Sea level rise is often accounted for by summarising mass budgets. In fact, however, the problem of sea level rise is complicated because a number of contributions interact with one another. For example, at the centre of concerns about sea level are the ice sheets. Changes in their mass not only effect (sic) eustatic sea level directly; they effect (sic) it too through viscous flows in the Earth’s mantle that change the shape and gravity field of the Earth, and they effect the ocean dynamical circulation because freshwater fluxes affect the buoyancy of the ocean water masses. Thus a comprehensive understanding of sea level needs not only to identify causes of sea level changes, but also ways in which they may interact.

There is another factor related to tidal conditions. Tides, which is the rise and fall of the oceans due to the gravitational attraction of the Sun and the Moon varies with the positions of the Sun and Moon relative to earth. However, those change over time. For example, we know from work on the Milankovitch Effect that the distances between the Sun and the earth change over relatively short time periods. The orbital change is given as 95,000 years, which seems too long to be of significance, but this is the complete cycle from extreme ellipse to almost circular (as it is now) and back. So, the actual change is one-half the time.

Sea level varies when water temperatures change. Warmer temperatures expand the volume of water and sea level rises; cooler temperatures shrink the volume and water levels lower. This can result in a global or a regional change or both. But even this is not simple because the water temperature varies with depth and different layers change temperature differently. There is one important temperature range, 0° to 4°C, that results in a different volume reaction. This is very important because it means that large areas of polar water and water at depth, even in the tropics, does not to respond to temperature change in the same way. We don’t know how much water that entails in the total ocean volume, but it is clearly a large amount and precludes any study assuming a simple volume change with water temperature change.

This idea of volume change as a function of temperature is even more problematic than the assumption that it is uniform in space and time. Two parts of my career taught me the error of that assumption. When I was involved in chasing Soviet submarines around the North Atlantic, we used instruments to detect the noises they make. Because of the way sound travels through water it required an accurate temperature profile of the water called a bathythermograph. We had instruments called Sonobuoys that could lower microphones or thermometers to preset depths to measure temperature as they descended. It was astonishing to see the temperature variance with depth that could occur. This means the volume of each layer varies thus affecting the net sea level value.

Similarly, we installed weather instruments every 200 ft on a 1000 ft radio tower outside of Winnipeg. Again, the variance in temperature with height at any given time was quite remarkable. We were especially surprised by the number of inversions that occurred. This is why the global temperature measured at weather stations located between 1 and 1.25 meters above the surface is that and only that. It is the temperature of the atmosphere between 1 and 1.25 meters.

The salt content of the oceans, known as salinity, varies considerably from region to region and that creates an imbalance. Different salinity creates different water density, and that can create different water levels and density currents. Perhaps one of the best known is between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic through the Straits of Gibraltar.

So far, we have examined sea level changes under the general category of eustasy. Now we need to examine sea level changes caused by changes in land levels under the general category of isostasy.

When you observe a shoreline over time, and the water line changes it is natural, because of education and reason, to assume it is the water level that has changed. However, it is also possible that the land is rising or falling. There are ways to determine which change is going on, but not usually by observation. This results in people attributing a change in sea level rise incorrectly as evidence of global warming when the land is sinking. This misattribution occurs most often on the Gulf of Mexico coast of the southern US. The North American continent is a useful example to explain what is going on.

There are two parts to the crust of the Earth. One part is a crust that covers the entire globe and is primarily composed of silica and magnesium (sima). The continents, the second part of the crust are primarily formed of silica and aluminum (sial). This makes the continental crust lighter than the underlying oceanic crust, which is rich in iron and denser than the continental crust. It means the continents effectively ‘float’ on the underlying oceanic crust, which in turn sits on the fluid material of the mantle. Everything rises and falls with the convective currents in the mantle but also with changes in weights added or removed from the continent.

Figure 6 compares North America 20,000 years ago with today. On the left map, the blue shows the extent of the ice, at the peak of the Ice Age. It was greater in area than the current Antarctic glacier and was thickest in the dark blue region centered on Hudson Bay. Notice the difference in coastline compared to the current situation on the right.

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Figure 6: Maps of North America; Left, 20,000 years ago. Right, Today.

Figure 7 shows a cross-section along A to B. The weight of the ice sitting on a floating continent changes the level of the land in two ways. It pushes the entire continent down at the northern end, so the southern end rises. It also depresses the rock of the continent as indicated by the arrows at A, a process called deformation.

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Figure 7; Cross section AB through the ice sheet and continent.

When winter snow survived the summer melt high in the Torngat Mountains of Labrador, layers built until a continental glacier was formed. The ice sheet center spread west as the snow was heavier in the prevailing westerlies. At the peak of glaciation, the thickest ice lay over Hudson Bay.

Since the ice melted, the continent has adjusted by rising in the north and sinking in the south. At the same time, the depressed land has regained some of its altitude. The land sinking along the Gulf of Mexico is mostly due to this adjustment. The rate of recovery is rapid and sometimes noticeable even without measure because it occurs within a person’s lifespan. Two pictures illustrate the rate the first (Figure 8) is of shorelines along the coast of Hudson Bay that form and are abandoned as the land rises.

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Figure 8

The second image is my favorite because I saw the differences between my first and last visits to a place called Sloop Cove near Churchill, Manitoba (Figure 9). The name comes from the fact that in the 18th and 19th centuries, the Hudson’s Bay Company anchored their small sailing vessels called sloops in the inlet. Today the inlet is above water even during the highest tides. Geologic estimates are the land has risen 2 meters since they began using it.

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Figure 9.

People in Manitoba who own cottages on the southern end of Lake Winnipeg (Figure 4) also noticed the effect because the Lake is moving south as the northern end rises. This vertical rise is converted to a greater horizontal movement so is more noticeable as the lake threatens your cottage. I learned much about this when serving on a Commission of Inquiry created because people blamed the ‘flooding’ on the utility (ManitobaHydro) that built a dam at the north end of the Lake to use it as a reservoir for hydroelectricity. In fact, in about 30 years the water moved south by several feet.

Measurement

Traditionally, sea level was measured by taking the average of tide gauge readings, however, since 1992 it is done by satellite. All the discussion is about an increase in the mean or average height of the sea, but only fractional increases. They were talking about millimeter increases when that type of precision wasn’t possible with tide gauges and even the TOPEX/POSEIDON satellites claim,

“Measured sea levels with unprecedented accuracy to better than 5 cm.”

It’s important to note that this estimate is with an uncertainty of 3-4 mm. This is important because the IPCC claim, “For the period 1993 to 2003, the rate of sea level rise is estimated from observations with satellite altimetry as 3.1 ± 0.7 mm yr-1.” But what are they actually measuring? It is the average variation of sea level relative to an imaginary line called the reference ellipsoid. Potential for error exists in determining the ellipsoid, the height of the satellite, in the actual measurements, and in the changes going on in the ocean and on the land. Frankly, it is useless to even talk about millimeter changes. There are so many inputs, and so many adjustments that the final results claimed are unjustified. As Carl Wunsch said,

“It remains possible that the data base is insufficient to compute mean sea level trends with the accuracy necessary to discuss the impact of global warming–as disappointing as this conclusion may be.”

 

He adds,

 

“Useful estimation of the global averages is extremely difficult given the realities of space/time sampling and model approximations. Systematic errors are likely to dominate most estimates of global average change: published values and error bars should be used very cautiously.”

Claims don’t fit the reality.

Everything was done by the IPCC to attribute the increase to global warming especially through increased sea temperature. They claimed that about 25 percent of sea level rise of the last 50 years was due to thermal expansion with that rising to 50 percent for the last decade. As with everything they do, the IPCC start with the assumption that their estimates of global warming are accurate and therefore their extrapolation of perceived trend going forward of increased sea level is also accurate. The arrogance of attributing 50 percent of the increased sea level to thermal expansion is done with a computer model that eliminates almost all the variables that cause temperature change, and the result is then applied to computer models that leave out most of the causes of sea level change.

 

 

Looking forward.

Originally, sea level rise was a grossly simplistic theory that asked how much sea level rise would occur if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt completely and the total water produced was then added to the current sea level. Let’s consider a similar scenario going forward. What is the maximum sea level rise that can occur if all the ice melts and the water is added to the current sea level?

Among the things to consider are the problem that much of the ice is already in the ocean, so it won’t add to the level. In fact, if we only consider that portion, then sea level will go down because water expands by about 9% when it freezes, the space occupied by the ice below sea level will hold 9% more water. Similarly, ice above sea level will produce 9% less water by volume. Then there are the isostatic adjustments the land will make as the weight of the ice is removed.

But all this assumes total melt, and that is unlikely for thousands of years, if at all because the average temperature of Antarctica is below –20°C (-4°F). How much warming is required before that moves above the freezing point?

Of course, you can stop worrying because Al Gore confirmed his practice of doing what I say not what I do. He bought waterfront property, and according to reports has not made it ‘green’ friendly. These are the best signs that neither global warming nor sea level rise are a threat?

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Ed Zuiderwijk
July 22, 2018 3:35 am

Thanks for this overview, Tim. It neatly illustrates how difficult it is to accurately measure sealevel. However, should a liter of water be added to every square meter of sea it would be reasonable to assume that the average sealevel rises, on average and in the long run, by 1 mm.

For instance, the sealevel rise in the North Sea has been 1.9 mm/yr for at least the last 140 years. That’s 19 cm per century. Of that rise, 3 cm is attributed to the sinking of the land. The Low Countries are smack bang sitting on a geosyncline where the accumulated sediments eroded from the Alp mountain range slowly but steadily press the underlaying crust downwards. From this one may conclude that the sealevel in the North Atlantic, with which the North Sea is in wide open connection has increased by 1.6mm/yr during the last century.

ferd berple
July 22, 2018 4:04 am

Why do the oceans not drain away through the cracks in the earth as caused by plate tectonics?

Alan Tomalty
July 22, 2018 7:05 am

“much of the ice is already in the ocean, so it won’t add to the level. In fact, if we only consider that portion, then sea level will go down because water expands by about 9% when it freezes, the space occupied by the ice below sea level will hold 9% more water. Similarly, ice above sea level will produce 9% less water by volume. ”

The actual rise or fall will depend on the total salinity of the ice that is floating on the water.

July 22, 2018 7:22 am

Sea Level Rise; A Major Non-Existent Threat Exploited by Alarmists and Politicians

Yes.

July 22, 2018 8:59 am

I have not had a chance to finish the article, but want to point out that the noted temp range of 0 to 4 degrees as being of particular importance, and distinct from the volumetric change with temp of the rest of the temperature scale of water…applies to fresh water only.
The numbers are different for saline water, and the amount by which they are different varies with the salinity.
This is not a trivial matter…it is key to understanding several very important phenomena.

Bjarne Bisballe
Reply to  Menicholas
July 22, 2018 10:08 pm

Pressure (and most seawater is under pressure) is much more important than salinity. Density for seawater under pressure follows a straight curve for all temperatures.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/water_density_calculator.html

July 22, 2018 10:52 am

Kip Hansen wrote an excellent series
of articles on sea level posted here in 2017 and 2018:
— I think there were five articles in total,
with the last one in early 2018.
I saved all of them.
They are worth reading and saving.

Also, of the approximate 400 foot sea level rise
in the past 20,000 years,
since the peak of the last glaciation,
at least 399.5 feet of the rise
was NOT caused by CO2 warming,
and possibly closer to 400 !

My climate blog:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com

Jim Whelan
July 22, 2018 2:13 pm

In addition to all the major sea level differences mentioned in the article, ocean waves themselves represent a difference on a square meter by square meter basis that is larger than a centuries worth of rise. I argue that a chaotic surface like the oceans cannot be measured with the precision claimed.

July 22, 2018 2:57 pm

Aren’t we talking about average sea level here? You stated that the Atlantis and Pacific sides of the panama canal are different levels. Is the Atlantic always higher, or is the Pacific always higher? I suspect they eventually average out… From all I have seen here on WUWT, it seems to me that the average global sea level rise is about 7 inches per century (or 5-8 inches), and that there is no acceleration in recent years. I’m I wrong?

Yirgach
July 22, 2018 3:35 pm

Dr. Ball,
The link to the Court case (http://www.cpi.cam.ac.uk/gore/pdf/Al%20Gore%20ruling%20-%2010%20Oct.pdf) is broken (server is gone).
I did find a copy here: http://23dd.fr/documents/references/Climat/Al_Gore_ruling_-_10_Oct.pdf

Rich Davis
July 22, 2018 6:27 pm

Very interesting article. The discussion of storm surges gave me an insight. It occurs to me that a lot of people who argue with me about sea level rise supposedly causing coastal erosion are probably just observing the effects of storm surges. Over time, even if sea level were slowly falling, periodic storm surges are going to produce more and more erosion. The only thing to stop that is the next ice age.

July 22, 2018 11:36 pm

This is the solution to protect Florida from, Sea level rise and Hurricane:
https://youtu.be/tRn4eUQ3ewY

Adapting the Mediterranean to the sea level rise:
https://youtu.be/9bbFyKE2DWw 
#PresaPuente

Hocus Locus
July 22, 2018 11:43 pm

(to the tune of WCFTCOTE)

Which come first, rising ocean or the wave?
Which come first, sinkhole or the cave?
Storm surge and tsunami
grind your city to pastrami
while you’re waitin’ for the sea to rise a smiiiidge!

Which come first, ‘climate’ or the storm?
Which come first, ‘weather’ or the norm?
There’s nothin’ like disaster
to make lawyer fees rise faster
Hey there! Mr. forecaster, serve some doooom!

Harry Twinotter
July 23, 2018 12:05 am

Global Average sea level is rising at the rate of around 3.2mm per year based on the current estimates. It flattened out for a couple of years perhaps due to changes in global precipitation, but is rising again. It would be hard to argue the rate of rise won’t speed up as the Global Mean Temperature increases.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

Rich Davis
Reply to  Harry Twinotter
July 23, 2018 3:07 am

Yeah, just observing that over the past few centuries, the trend is a slightly variable nearly linear curve. So obviously it’s primed to accelerate and diverge from that. Any day now. Because CO2.

Head for the hills, they might increase the adjustments and we’ll all drown.

How exactly does global precipitation go down when temperatures didn’t really pause? Fascinating. Also wondering where the water is supposed to be coming from if not from the oceans? How could precipitation impact sea level in the first place? Unless you’re arguing that there was a big drop in sublimation from glaciers. But then we’re back to my first question, aren’t we?

AnthonyB
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 23, 2018 4:19 am

“How exactly does global precipitation go down when temperatures didn’t really pause.?”

https://phys.org/news/2012-10-la-nina-global-sea.html

Rich Davis
Reply to  AnthonyB
July 23, 2018 9:18 am

Let me get this straight. The claim is that for 18 months, from the start of 2010 until the middle of 2011, the rain in Spain fell mainly on the plain? And it just took its time flowing back to the sea. By George, I think I’ve got it.

“This occurred concurrently with the La Niña phase of the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO).”
Lovely correlation equals causation.

Harry Twinotter
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 23, 2018 5:52 am

“Yeah, just observing that over the past few centuries”

Not really sure what you are talking about there – do you have a reference?

“they might increase the adjustments”

Who are “they”?

Not really sure about your last paragraph because it contains rhetorical questions/is a Gish Gallop. But if you are asking where can the water go, it rains or snows out over land and can take a while to get back to the sea – his tends to happen during La Ninas which can enhance precipitation over the continent of Australia.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Harry Twinotter
July 23, 2018 9:29 am

You can find some examples of the trend here:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/28/2015-updated-noaa-tide-gauge-data-shows-no-coastal-sea-level-rise-acceleration/
and also posted by Dave Burton in the comments for this article.

Looks like it’s NOAA data.

And I suppose that you expect me to believe that you’re unaware that the sea level numbers are adjusted. My comments relate to this article that you presumably read before posting on it. I suppose that “they” would again be NOAA.

“It’s important to note that this estimate is with an uncertainty of 3-4 mm. This is important because the IPCC claim, “For the period 1993 to 2003, the rate of sea level rise is estimated from observations with satellite altimetry as 3.1 ± 0.7 mm yr-1.” But what are they actually measuring? It is the average variation of sea level relative to an imaginary line called the reference ellipsoid. Potential for error exists in determining the ellipsoid, the height of the satellite, in the actual measurements, and in the changes going on in the ocean and on the land. Frankly, it is useless to even talk about millimeter changes. There are so many inputs, and so many adjustments that the final results claimed are unjustified.”

Sjoerd
July 23, 2018 4:38 am

That is a great picture of the dutch coastal town West Kapelle. ….kudos.

BR549
July 23, 2018 10:36 am

Then, there is the elephant in the room; the argument about WHY the politics for global warming was needed in the first place.

Over the centuries, it has been the strategy of mischievous tyrannical monarchists and globalists to be prepared to move on any opportunity where they can take advantage of economics, legitimate wars, weather, etc, to widen the gap between their ilk and intentionally dumbed down peasantry; those who never get the memos. In the case of the Battle of Waterloo, the Rothschild family didn’t mind lying when they allowed their messenger to cross a stormy sea on the English Channel to bring the news to the London stock market that Napoleon had won at Waterloo. Of course, Napoleon LOST at Waterloo, but the word of that came AFTER the Rothschilds had purchased enough stock during the sell-off to assume control of England’s economy, because the value of those stocks hadn’t really changed.

AGW is but another scheme concocted by the globalists to create such a situation, a GLOBAL situation, where that gap could be forever cut in stone once the Carbon Taxes were imposed, and indeed, as Lord Moncton’s researcher unearthed from the bowels of the IPCC text, Carbon Taxes were the whole point of the AGW argument.

As we have seen, since all this nonsense had been foisted upon the gullible masses, the globalists; along with their dysfunctional entourage of ethically challenged useful idiots like the Bushes, the Clintons, Gore, Obama, Gates, Zuckerberg, and Bezos and so many others, have no shortage of treasonous Igors to do the nasty biddings of the King.

While all this was playing out in the press, the Deep State was pushing the geo-engineering program under the guise of increasing the Earth’s albedo, when in fact, the deposition of metallic salts in the atmosphere had quite the opposite effect. What it actually did was retard the rate at which the Earth could naturally reradiate the Sun’s radiation back to space as infraRed. Thus, while the hidden memo suggested that we were at age end of a warming cycle, the globalists would use this opportunity to hoodwink the ignorant into thinking that the situation was so dire that whole islands would sink before dinner tomorrow night. And no group swallowed the hook more than the Left, just like the globalists of over 100 years ago knew that the Left would be the easiest to convert to a communist dictatorship under the guise of democracy, socialism, and progressivism. All along, the point has been about returning to a state of feudalism, where no one but the king(s) were allowed to own land. And of course, this goes hand in hand with the mission of the CFR and the myriad of treasonous Charitable Foundations which have openly stated that their goal is to dissolve the US Constitution.

So this political nightmare is what is at the heart of AGW and why they have been pushing so hard to get it pushed through. Is there any merit at all to their argument. Maybe a little bit; I mean, we have been lousy planetary stewards, but then, look who has been calling all the managerial shots while this has been going on; ….. the same cast of dysfunctional characters pushing the AGW and who are still flying all over the globe in their private jets without a care in the planet, itself. If there was really all this concern about the welfare of the planet, why have our speed limits crept up to 70 instead of being rolled back to 55mph over the last 40+ years?

Pardon my lack of brevity.

DocSiders
July 23, 2018 11:17 am

When AlGore first presented his AGW propaganda, my first reaction way back then was to assume he was lying until proven otherwise…he looks like and acts like and is a liar…and a hypocrite that got all of his wealth and power by NOTHING he ever did (all silver spoon). The Nobel Committee deserves NO MORE LEGITIMACY after Gore and Obama. I have no respect for the Nobel thingy (what ever it is) any more.

None of Gore’s short term prognostications have come true and (by extrapolation of data) none of his long term predictions have any chance of becoming reality…by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude.

If the universe has any inclination towards ultimate justice, the PDO and AMO will both turn negative in the next decade, and the next 3 decades will be beset by significant global cooling…and the rush will be on to build about 8000 to 10,000 coal fired and nuclear power plants…and AWG will be mentioned only derogatorily and parenthetically forevermore.

Johann Wundersamer
July 23, 2018 12:13 pm

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July 23, 2018 3:02 pm

A couple of technical slips :-

“It is called a set-up” – I think that this should be a seiche

“winds blowing over a stretch of water called a reach” I think that should be a fetch

Jules
July 24, 2018 3:24 am

Thanks Dr Ball.

I work with tide gauges all the time, now having moved on to RTK GPS derived water level I have struggled to see how sea level can be measured to mm accuracy, ± 0.7 mm yr-1 seems ridiculous to me, I would be lucky to measure local tidal height to within 3 to 4 cm and I would say that was good.

What are the accuracies quoted for the altimeters of the satellites?

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