I lose sleep over climate change almost every single night. I can’t remember how long this has been happening, but it’s been quite a while, and it’s only getting worse. I confess: I need help.
A few years ago, I shared my climate change depression on Twitter, and the response was overwhelming. One of my tweets rose up the alt-truth ranks all the way to Fox News, where one host called me a “kook” for publicly expressing my feelings about the environment. Other responses were more empathic. Hundreds of people wrote to me admitting their own personal struggles under the weight of an unraveling world. This was a consolation of sorts. I realized that I am not alone in experiencing a kind of environmental dread.
Like many people who care about the fate of the planet, I’ve spent most of the past year alternating between soul-crushing despair and headstrong hope. My personal situation, however, is a bit unusual in that I get paid to be a climate-science communicator.
I’m a meteorologist by training and a journalist by profession. For the past 12 years, I’ve focused every working day on understanding, explaining, and trying to alleviate the effects of climate change. Yet global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist. It’s difficult not to internalize some of this as a personal failure. “I should be telling that story better,” I’ll tell myself, as the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere continues to climb. The regret is catching up to me.
For now at least, the good days are enough to keep me going. But there are also days when I’m paralyzed. Case in point: This very essay. It sat open in a window on my computer for nearly 11 months, begging to be completed. Yet I resisted. Confronting the existential dread that climate change infuses into nearly every aspect of my life just isn’t something I want to spend my time doing.
About a year ago, I went to see a counselor for anxiety. He seemed unprepared for my emotional crisis. His simple advice was, “Do what you can.” Easier said than done, of course, but the advice helped me to realize something important: We are all in this together.
But for some reason, I still have a hard time talking about these emotional challenges in person. Climate change and mental health are still fairly taboo subjects in polite company (even if these aren’t days in which being polite gets one very far). Over the past several months, I’ve stopped talking about climate change with my parents, my wife, and my sister in order to avoid heated dialogue about what I think is the most important issue in the world. Instead, I’ve privately sought out personal advice from other scientists and journalists, and often commiserated with strangers. My support network has become those who are going through the same emotional crisis.
I know that cutting out my family is a defensive strategy. I know it can’t last forever. In ordinary times, I would welcome any chance to include my loved ones in my life’s work. But right now, I feel like I have to restrain myself from opening up about how I really feel to protect whatever seeds of hope I have left. I don’t know if it’s the right decision, but I know that I need to preserve my own well-being to continue to fight for the planet.
This article appeared in the March/April 2018 edition with the headline “Climate Change Blues.”
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Here’s John Reilly, MIT climate scientist, actually breaking down live on air because Trump supposedly cited his department’s research out of context (he didn’t). His breakdown comes only seconds after saying the Paris Agreement will furnish 1°C reduction in 2100 temperatures when the department he leads consistently puts out reports showing its 0.65°C. He adds 0.35°C by adding spurious, hoped for, vaguely outlined emission reductions after 2030 i.e. not agreed at Paris or at any other time.
https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017/06/02/local-news/mit-researcher-president-trump-dont-cherry-pick-our-data
+1 scute.
“1°C reduction in 2100”
Why do we want a 1°C reduction in 2100 again? Does anyone know? ….. and, since no one knows a real number for climate sensitivity, how would one calculate this bogus number? I’ve lost track. Is this bogus squared or bogus cubed or are we entering new orders of magnitude?
Eric confesses that he needs help. As my mother used to say: ‘..help yourself little man, help yourself do — don’t wait for others to wait upon you…’
Eric’s a little short on scientific knowledge, which make life a little difficult for a ‘science communicator’. He’s got the gun but no ammo.
Try Xanax. And professional counseling. That should do the trick.
Considering what psychology has been reduced to, Xanax might be the only thing to try.
Yeah, sleep deprivation will drive you insane and then kill you.
The propensity of the human mind for self-delusion is rampant and demonstrated by so many ‘save the world from (fill in the blank) type activists. People listen to their negative thoughts and irrational fears…. and begin to believe them. Soon they are making really bad choices, based on the self-delusion. This guys delusion is driving his cognitive dissonance, as illustrated by his own statements in this story that concludes so perfectly with the delusional paean “I know that I need to preserve my own well-being to continue to fight for the planet.”
The cup of poison he sips from daily is, in the words of James Joyce, the chalice he bears through a throng of foes.
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Dear Eric,
Console yourself with the realization that climate sensitivity to CO2 is less than half of that predicted by climate models. So, move 100 miles away from the equator every five years and you’ll never even notice its gettin’ warmer out there.
But I noticed he is already “based in Minnesota”, so he should meet some of his fellow Minnesotans who are FOR global warming, who could explain to him the many benefits they expect global warming could bring to their state.
Also, to add – Eric, you way overestimate your importance in the grand scheme of things, as in you have none at all. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen no matter what you do, no matter what choices you make, because you really aren’t even a flew on an elephants backside when it comes to your ability to affect the earth. So stop luxuriating in the fantasy that “you can make a difference” because you can’t, you big loser.
From a Ph.D., not in meteorology
“This (eclipse) path was described long in advance in precise detail by experts on our solar system, using the same kind of expertise required to predict the impacts of global warming.”
Corrected by someone who noted that the equations were known to Newton and-–“..the science and technology of weather and climate forecasting are maturing – somewhere about junior high level. It all remains very uncertain”
Maybe a good physics and history class would help.
HDHoese is on to something. How about more education in the sciences. A few good university engineering courses would help to straighten his thinking and understanding.
I know what he is going through as I’ve suffered the same condition, it’s called GAD:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_anxiety_disorder
Don’t be too hard on him, he really can’t help himself. If he wouldn’t worry about CAGW, something else would fill his head with terrible horrors. I found help, SSRIs and therapy helped me. However, his CAGW fears are equally irrational as my own health worries were. I feel for him.
I think you have the best take on this of anyone here – what’s going on with Eric is actually a serious form of mental illness, and “climate change” is just the name he’s using to focus it on. If it wasn’t that, he would be losing sleep and losing his family over something else.
wws
Exactly. He is going through hell, believe me. I hope he gets better. There really are scumbags in this trade, but I believe he is a victim. He really might be a decent guy, haunted by CAGW obsession.
The trip back to reality can be painful and traumatizing. Are certain people exploiting others’ misfortune to further the ClimateChange™ agenda?
@Piper Paul
A big part of the economic catastrophe that is global warming policies is the chronic abuse of societal problems by politicians to give them moral authority and freedom from responsibility for things they failed at.
They used to create nationalist fervour for these purposes, but electorates started to see body bags coming home so they’ve moved on to something more nebulous and noble. ”
“Vote for me and I’ll save the world”(from the fake problem I invented)
He may have a condition. I suppose if the the trigger is global warming, it could be something else as well.
It hasn’t warmed for 18 years and his condition seems to have worsened.
……Could it be that annually on or near April first there are generalized outbreaks of Generalized Anxiety Disorder??
If that’s the case he apparently didn’t let his wife in on the joke.
Timo V
I feel certain you didn’t turn to the media to wash your laundry and use your condition to emotionally blackmail others.
Hell no! In my darkest days, I slept two hours a night and was so burned out, there was no way I could think anything else but certainty I was going to die. I have not ruled out possibility him being an acehole, but generally narcissists/psychopaths are unable to create GAD, life’s not fair;)
I have a good friend who is experiencing the same thing with Donald Trump. I told her to turn off the damn TV and stay away from the Internet. Go for long walks.
But she can’t so she started medicating. I’m not sure how many she is currently on but she has gotten to the point where she is taking one drug just to counter the side effects of another.
It really is a sad situation that is not letting up. It is a mental illness, though not sure she is deficient in something or her brain is misfiring.
rbabcock
It’s the pessimist in all of us.
Most of us just use optimism to control it.
Going to college to learn about meteorology does not make one a meteorologist. It’s certainly no coincidence that this kook became a pseudo-journalist instead of putting their schooling to use and actually becoming what they spent 4-6 years of their life training to do.
This is the typical type of person that takes a few college tests and then has the audacity to call themself a scientist. Just like all the rest of their ilk, displaying delusional behavior and virtue signaling —
I can’t wait to see how this kook can lecture us on the climate-boogeyman from an essay typed over the course of a few months on a machine using a 500W power supply that is apparently never turned off — not.
If it wasn’t climate change he would just find something else to fear. Hope he isn’t Katagelophobic.
Perhaps Phobophobia.
JoNova’s found the cure for meteoranxiety.
http://joannenova.com.au/2018/05/meteoranxiety-pre-traumatic-stress-about-climate-change-that-hasnt-happened-yet/#more-58754
Gary
FFS!
What next?
So. This guy appears to not have paid much attention in his meteorology classes and instead was asleep having night-terrors. I don’t remember the basics of the water cycle to be that frightening.
The only thing we really have to fear is the fear of CAGW itself.
nah, the thing to truly fear is the misguided climate policies that believers of CAGW foist upon the rest of us. useless solutions to a non-problem.
I think he is more worried about the zero value of his life’s work.
Eric, to quote Bob Newhart in his role of a therapist on SNL, stop it! You’re clearly valuing the wrong things in your life. The planet is not your responsibility. Society and politics are only in tiny part, your responsibility. Everyone else bears their own share of the “damage” which, to my way of thinking, is no concern at all in terms of the CO2, which plants love and which, in turn animals love to eat.
More practically, stop reading the internet. Get a new job. Fixing old cars is very satisfying. If you really want to help people, learn how to be a great plumber. And don’t whine to your new co-workers about anything. If that level of change is too much, do something smaller, like rescue an abused animal from a shelter or grow a garden with tomatoes and herbs that you eat yourself. Dance with your daughter or have a game of catch with your son (or vis-a-versa). Read Princess Bride to your child. Life is for living.
I’m not a Christian, but I find the message in Switchfoot’s “I Dare You to Move” to be inspirational when life and depression start getting a hold on my psyche. Listen to it. Take it to heart. Then pull your head out.
Help?
* understand that your depression is from within you. meaning…
* it has just nothing to do with any event in the world. Could had been New World Order, Aliens, Radiowavs, vaccines, cancer, poverty, war, or whatever. You choose “climate change”.
* this was bad choice. Because, not only you can do nothing about it, but your way of life conflict with your belief. An anti-vaxer CAN live without vaccine (this may kill him, but, everyone has to die anyway, so…). You cannot. So you live in cognitive dissonance
* Cognitive dissonance is very bad trip. But part of you is happy to make you miserable, and pushing hard to have you continue. And make others miserable, too. Ancients called this “demons”. Call this as you want.
* but you can fight back. Very simple.
1) Either put your act were your word are, namely, turn to some sort of Amish-like life (full renewable, with zero computer, internet and the like), or revel in the delight of fossil fuel life, stopping all this CAGW nonsense
2) cope with your real psy issue, now you know they are unrelated to CAGW
Well, of all the things I’ve read here, this offering by paqyfelyc seems to be pretty close. Eric has an obssessive compulsive anxiety disorder that doesn’t need chemicals to fix it.
He feels frozen, that he can’t do anything to stop what he perceives as a threat, and furthermore, no one is listening to him. He’s cried “WOLF!!” so much and nothing has happened, so why would anyone listen to him? He can’t have HIS way, either. His wife is ditching him. Can’t say as I blame her, since he doesn’t seem to have an ounce of common sense.
If he’s in Minnesota, I just checked the temperature up in Minneapolis, which is a balmy 59F, so how is that warming, again, Eric?
Do you EVER GO OUTSIDE???? Do you ever get OUT of the city and into the open countryside? EVER??? I don’t think you do, and that is 95% of your problem, sport.
Like I said, his issues don’t need a chemical fix, because that doesn’t solve his problem. He’s unwilling to accept that other people have a different point of view. He can’t control what they think or say. Tough bananas!!!
If he’s really as concerned as he says, which I doubt – lots of virtue signaling going on there – he’d go put his money where his mouth is. I do not think he’s willing to give up the comfort of his citified environment and life to abandon civilization. He hasn’t offered even one thing he does to “SAVE THE PLANET!” because as the late, great George Carlin said, he doesn’t give a S–T about the planet in the abstract. It is ALL show and NO GO with him.
Do I feel sorry for him? Nope. He hasn’t offered anything that says he’s willing to do his share. I think spending a year with the Amish as a farmhand, in their environment with basic 19th century stuff would be a splendid way for him to start his Pilgrim’s Progress, don’t you? I’d love to spend a summer with an Amish housewife who knows the ins and outs of baking really good bread with a wood-fired oven.
Until then, Eric – dry up, will you? Put up or shut up.
Read this piece of crap http://www.businessinsider.com/carbon-dioxide-record-human-health-effects-2018-5. If you believe even 10% of it you will be a worse wreck than Eric. There is a certain cadre of journalists that seem determined to destroy the peace of mind of as many people as possible. Lies, misrepresentation, exaggeration and sensationalism ar jus convenient tools to them.
Rocky,
They’re doing it to sell add space.
The content used to sell the add space only needs to attract eyes. i.e. talking and linking to it was exactly what they wanted you to do.
This message was bought to you by, “Don’t Be Evil”. 😉
Sara
A feeble attempt to emotionally blackmail others to conform to the CAGW rhetoric, to save him.
Selfishness exhibits no bounds.
“Please validate the purpose and meaning of my life with long passages of carefully crafted fellation and commiseration.”
How about no.
If his livelihood depends on believing in something (CAGW) that’s not real I can see where this could cause issues.
A lot of idiots lose sleep over ridiculous ideas. Nothing new.
“Yet global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist.”
Every story has an ending.
The assumed “forcing” goes up but the temperature change can hardly be distinguished from zero, and there are multiple other reasons why temperature can fluctuate.
[ Ref; Donald Rumsfeld: But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know. ]
My advice is to move on to writing about something that needs attention, say, the care needed for elderly. It is an important issue.
Sleep is overrated, I mostly just have little nightmares (the ones I remember) involving my previous career, jobs that you know are going to go over budget.
Thank goodness I never went to war.
Just start reading WUWT to find out just how misled you have been all these years. There actually isn’t anything to be worried about at all, more CO2 and warmer have always been better for life on this planet – it is just a fact! Given you are a communicator you been subjected to the worst of the propaganda that isn’t actually intended to inform people about climate science at all – it is intended to scare people into believing our CO2 emissions are bad in order to advance a masked political agenda (globalization) spearheaded by political organizations not scientific ones. For example the United Nations, US federal government, EU, etc. plus a gaggle of non government organizations are stuffing their pockets with money from scared people like you giving all of them an incentive to just keep doing that. As with ANY political organization, the ultimate aim is POWER because that’s the fuel they all run on. Their power to control people’s minds is what brings in the cash and this Climate Change thing has been one heck of a cash cow to all of them for a long time. Many of them have made careers out of it so they are not going to go away quietly. Dwight Eisenhower foresaw this very thing when he was president and warned us about it.
The first step to fixing any problem is recognizing that one exists so I congratulate you on that milestone alone! In your case the next step is rather simple on paper but might be difficult for you in practice – stop blindly accepting what the alarmists are claiming and instead start requiring them to supply proof of their claims. All real scientists are skeptics not sheep. The more scientifically you look at the climate change propaganda – the sooner you’ll conclude that they been lying to you all along and stop worrying over nothing.
I’m so tired of this pathetic self-loathing snowflake nonsense, if these people think the human race is so bad why don’t they put themselves out of their own misery.
Environmental policy in western countries has ended the excesses of the industrial revolution, air is cleaner than it’s been for 150 years, forests are being planted faster than ever before, species aren’t being hunted to extinction, cars are cleaner and more economical and gas from fracking is cleaner than the fuels it replaces. The west is a pretty civilised place it is much friendlier to the environment than it was even when Holthaus was born and it’s improving as technology progresses.
Our civilisation & relative eco-frientlyness is built on cheap abundant energy which the likes of Holthaus would deny to those who are still in an exploitative stage of development. As always it seems eco-zealots are standing in the way of a better world.
Do us all a favour Eric – you know what to do.
I think my idea – spend a year with an Amish farm family doing things THEIR way, and learn about the REAL world. Far more practical and he might appreciate the world much more.
It might change his perspective substantially.
+1
it means being really tired from a hard day’s work. Usually a good cure for sleeplessness
The poor freakin Amish! Mercy!
Jaffa68 >> You are an evil bas!ard. Crawl back into your hole in the ground.
I suffered as Eric described: Nightmares, depression, alienation, etc. My PTSD symptoms included fearsome flashbacks, violent nightmares, alienation, hyper-mania alternating with depression, etc.
Luckily, years later I got help from the VA. They do an overall great job for a huge bureaucracy.
Now, my problem is mainly ahedonism.
Good luck, Erick! But you really do need to get off your CAGW fixation; as noted, the world will continue to develop with fossil fuels. Idealists tend to ignore facts on the ground: the poor of the world will advance.
It’s an illness. Try Buddhism as an Rx— all the world (reality) is impermanent/always changing. Man’s attempt to grasp upon it,…to hold it,.. to fixate and his inability to control causes his unhappiness. Happiness is achieved by letting go,.. stop trying to grasp,.. to control. It’s our Hubris and folly that makes us vein and suffer.
Other than the echo chamber sceptic community on WUWT, many people who understand the environment and live in the countryside share very similar feelings sometimes.
Urbanites – who I think make strong sceptics – have very little understanding of how AGW is affecting climate patterns.
because it isn’t important to them. On the other hand, homesteaders for example are daily working with and in nature and so for them this issue has far more relevance. Sceptics can carry on living in their comfortable
a/c city apartments but let’s see them whining and bleating for help when the shit really hits the fan.
LOL…isn’t that convenient…….when people who “live in the countryside” vote republican….they are ignorant backward clingers
I live in the countryside (always have) and notice the ever-changing weather, but I’ve never seen any signs of AGW.
Agreed Latitude!
It appears that nokinsman has a weak rural speech understanding.
nokey, conveniently ignores the many WUWT commenters, who identified themselves as farmers. Just as it has ignored the many weather professionals who visit and comment here.
Appears to be a case of rampant projection and delusion.
Say’s who? Say’s you my friend. Don’t do yourself down and don’t get bogged down in petty politics when it comes to big issues.
“Says you”, nokey!”
All projection, specious claims and falsehoods.
You should drop back a week and read some research that you obviously skipped: “Study: Climate skeptics engage in more eco-friendly behavior than climate alarmists”
Then, you should head out to the rural country and talk to some farmers, lumberjacks, orchardists, apiarists and husbandry focused organizations.
All those people who live away from urbs, work hard outside, depend upon nature for their living have long noticed that temperatures are not unusual. These are the people who conversed with their parents and grandparents and learned hearing about the 1930s through 1980s.
These people, with strong relations to the natural world, listened to thirty years of CAGW alarmism and notice the accompnaying thirty years of failed dooms.
Ivan, you are an idiot
That’s not very nice Randy…
“That’s not very nice Randy…”
Says he, following his insulting rant on here the other day.
What was it you called Donald Trump again?
Admonishment. Coming from what, a computer program? Ivan, I think you are a piece of code.
Yeah, you know, Ivan, when you make generalized statements like that, it is obvious that you are completely uninformed about your subject matter.
Why would I say that? Because I grew up in the country, in farmland in the Corn Belt. I know NO ONE in the countryside who has the attitude you describe. People in the country are a lot more self-sufficient than you.
I don’t know where you get your incorrect information. Obviously, you never spend any time in the country and you’ve never homesteaded or farmed. But that incorrect description of attitudes – well, that comes from people like you who live in cities where everything is concrete and steel and the only open green spaces have ‘Do Not Walk Here’ signs posted.
The only whining and bleating for help will come from you and people like you.
Sara….Ivonk is a liberal…..they don’t see people as individuals…no heart or soul involved
Wrong there Sara. I lived in a capital city for 17 years and pretty much hated it. Have been living in a homestead for the last 16 years so know what I am talking about. And don’t kid yourself that people like Trump have the interests of rural communities or environmental concerns at heart. We all know where he comes from. I watched the guy trying to use a spade on the WH lawn and he looked ridiculous.
ivankinsman : So you are 33 years old and now live in a homestead (or on a homestead?). Do you farm? Work outside 8 to12 hours a day? I think you should have a heart to heart talk with some old farmers about weather they have lived though.
Ivan, don’t change the subject. Trump has nothing to do with any of this YOU brought that up. No one else did. Bad idea.
Spot on, Sara!
17 years solid urbanite living. Now, lives in a homestead, whatever that means.
Instead, nokey frequently posts odd comments full of deceit, fabrication, baseless claims, sophistry, etc.; most displaying unimaginable levels of ignorance.
Now, nokey flings out a specious claim regarding America’s midterms. Demonstrating that nokey ignored your suggestion that it should review who voted for Trump.
Which is another clear indication that nokey is incapable of honesty and does not intend to view inconvenient facts. It’s so much easier to bleat nonsense.
Such people rarely function working with others outdoors, all day.
FYI nokey; http://www.wsj.com/graphics/elections/2016/where-they-won/
Urbs voted for HRC.
Rural people voted for Trump.
The vast majority of America’s rural counties voted for Trump, giving Trump the electoral college majority and the Presidency.
Making nokey’s specious claims, just more made-up fantasy nonsense.
Ivan, as a country boy who has worked and lived in the country and worked in agriculture and forestry for decades I can state unequivocally that you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. You are 180° out of phase with reality. As a hint, look up the election county maps for 2016 and notice where the red and blue counties are in the US. You strike me as the type who would call a steer a cow, even though morally, ethically and intellectually you resemble a steer. Some important parts are missing.
Well let’s see what happens in the mid-terms in November. I support Trump on his anti-immigration stance but that’s as far as it goes … all the rest is a sham.
Hillary Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems could have put forward. Let’s see some Dem candidates who do not buy into all the pc liberal BS, and who do not have the interests of the 1% at heart (e.g Koch Brothers) and then we will see.
“AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.”
No it doesn’t, look at the science, not the Guardian!
The deserts are greening according to NASA, but you know this as I have pointed it out to you before.
Sea level rise has simply plodded along as it has done for thousands of years, there is no acceleration!
The North American continent went 12 years without a major hurricane until 2017, how can that possibly be described as exacerbated extreme weather. And most wildfires are caused by human stupidity, not Gaia.
Stop reading the media Ivan, their purpose is to sell papers and they will use any ruse to do so, like scaring the pants off gullible people like you.
Ivan – that comment was pathetically uninformed. As an old and unrepentant country boy, let me assure you there are no signs of man made global warming or impending climate catastrophe evident in my years of life’s experience.
As for your whingeing, profoundly wrong comments, they made me think of this song, an ‘anthem’ of mine, if you will. Listen and learn…..
Hank Williams Jr. – A Country Boy Can Survive
https://youtu.be/3cQNkIrg-Tk
J Mac – I too live in the country and the signs are there. Our winters have much less snow, the transition from winter to spring is much faster, we have to do a lot more watering and composting in the summer. Look at the global picture and the signs are also evident – AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events. You think all the man-made carbon just disappears into thin air or is soaked up be the vegetation and planetary oceans? That’s an ‘urbanite’ sceptic theory which is pathetic it is so absurd.
Ivan.
Quote *AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.*
You are being totally dishonest there.
I don’t know why you come here and spout crap like that. Are you a narcissist?
Totally true and the evidence now backs it up. Not a narcissist at all – the facts are there in black and white. The only crap I come across is the cow manure I use in my vegetable raised beds.
Ivan it is not true at all and there is no evidence to back it up. Even the IPCC admit it.
IPCC do talk about the ‘exacerbation effect of AGW on extreme weather events. Show me the evjdence where
Ivan it is you that made the first claim and considering the site you are on it is up to you to show the evidence.
Good luck!
No YOU state something that is ‘fake and you prove it. You know it is fake and you don’t have the evidence. Next time don’t write something that is a blatant lie just to support your line of reasoning.
Ivan as I thought you are a narcissist. You come to this site as a AGW believer and are not prepared to back your claims up. You are full of piss and wind.
Same appellation and derogatory terms apply to you likewise. And this site – as far as I am aware – is open to all contributors who want to input on climate change so put up or shut up.
Ivan i see you are still not prepared to show any of your evidence but just carry on your narcissistic ways.
You are right that this site is open to everyone but it is obviously not really a site for AGW camp followers.
Oh you have decreed that have you? We can all make our own decisions on what we do/don’t do so why not f@ur momisugly## off.
Ivan i see from someone elses post that you have done the same thing before.
It is alright as I realize that you are having trouble finding the necessary evidence.
It is not much fun being a narcissist when things don’t go your way is it?
OK here it is in black and white. Now show me your evidence please:
https://www.carbonbrief.org/what-the-ipcc-report-says-about-extreme-weather-events
And straight from the horse’s mouth. Again, show me your counter evidence please:
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg2/index.php?idp=354
Still waiting … you seem to have gone quiet on this issue. Now why is that I wonder?
Quite simple. People have to sleep sometime. When I am on my computer I will get back to you.
Ivan your first link isn’t even worth reading.
You do realize that the Summary for Policymakers is as much a political document as a scientific one?
This is one quote from WGII/AR5
“Attribution of observed impacts in the WGII AR5 generally links responses of natural and human systems to observed climate change, regardless of its cause.”
Now that definitely sheds a different light on things.
… they refute this.
Ivan, you are either an absolute liar or woefully ignorant: “AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.”
Even the politicized UN IPCC, in its various reports admits that there are no trend in wildfires, flooding, desertification, hurricanes, tornadoes or any other significant climate variable. They note a mild upward trend in temperatures since 1950, with a concommitment minor increase in precipitation.
Whatever ‘A’ there has been in the minor, beneficial ‘GW’ since the end of the Little Ice Age has yet to be determined. CO2 theory does not explain pre-1950 multi-decadal temperature swings.
I don’t know where you live, but Northern Hemisphere snow levels are increasing. Why don’t you just relax and enjoy your benign rural climate?
The trend is increased intensication of such events when they do occur – this is accepted scientific fact now no matter how much the ‘sceptics choose to ignore it. You keep enjoying your rural idyll Dave but that is not really going to help your children and grandchildren. I prefer to publicise the AGW facts to ensure action is taken and the pressure kept up on governments to ensure mine enjoy theirs.
Ivan, you’re going to have to show us the published governmental data that shows “increased intensication (sic)” trends for all the climatic metrics, including for tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts, etc. Minor warming (heatwaves!) and associated slight increases in precipitation (falling faster!) don’t count.
Wild speculation and misleading statements by Trenberth and his ilk are not “accepted scientific fact.” Quote the specific IPCC report. [The ones you cited earlier do not support your statements.] Use published data, not alarmist fear-mongering.
Your referenced Carbon Brief article on IPCC’s 2012 extreme weather report states: “With other types of extreme events [hot spells, mainly], changes in past trends and any human contribution are harder to spot. Take hurricanes for example – there’s no clear pattern suggesting how they’ve changed the world over. But scientists have identified certain parts of the ocean, like the North Atlantic, where the number of intense hurricanes has increased since the 1970s. [Associated with a warming AMO.] Drought trends also differ from region to region, with a global picture unclear.”
One extreme missing from this picture is flooding. At the moment scientists don’t have enough data to make conclusive statements about changes in the last few decades, or make predictions about the future.”
Your citation contradicts your alarmist statements.
And did you even read your referenced IPCC WGII report that speculates about future climate impacts and gives examples of recent disasters that are based on population and GDP growth, not a changed climate? Dr. Roger Pielke, Jr. has conclusively shown that “increased climate disasters” are entirely based on increased populations and GDP, not climate metrics.
Your second citation also contradicts your alarmist statements. Give up yet?
Ivan,
Repetition of false dogma is not convincing.
Excellent question, mikebartnz!
nokey has spouted these and similar falsehoods here, many times; and has been fully rebutted many times.
Again, nokey demonstrates an inability to read or understand the links nokey supplies.
From nokey’s link:
“Likely” is fantasy, not reality.
And that “Table 3-10”
Not proof of any sort.
More of the thoroughly busted climate models and baseless predictions.
Again, no proof at all, just alarmist assumptions.
Notice that nokey never uses any reports that directly track “extreme” weather.
All those problems those poor folks had on Green Acres! Climate Change! Who knew?!
Sure makes the pigs smart though.
hmm curiously i find its the citytwits who believe the most in warmist ideology
rural folks who actually get out in the real weather without aircon/heating all day are pretty in touch and are aware that seasons vary hugely from yr to yr so does rainfall pests and what weeds appear. there arent many farmers who actually deeply believe in warming
the few who do seem to are also pretty damned hot on knowing all the shonky deals on offer for “remediation” of the non issue and getting handouts from gov depts.
If I was a farmer I would start reading up on AGW and giving it my individual support. Those in cities are pretty much uninterested in its impacts – and the exacerbated hurricane over Houston soon brought it home to them. Farmers of the next generation – not yours – are going to have to put mitigating effects in place. Let’s take a dairy barn as an example. The yield of milk cows drops when cows are too hot. Rising temperatures mean dairy farmers will have to cough up more on ventilation systems etc which hits their bottom line. Crops require a huge amount of water. Rising planetary temperatures will mean farmers have to be smarter with water utilisation. Kerp on believing it is a Chinese conspiracy my friend. And I wouldn’t rely on rich city billionaires types like the current arsehole in chief to bale you out.
If (big if) temperatures rise, farmers would get more rain. Longer growing seasons and more water for irrigation. What’s not to like?
Strange. These scientists seem to disagree with you and Roger Pilke Jr. – the one sceptic scientist who is always quoted by sceptics because he is the only one they can use to support their viewpiunt.
https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/impacts/causes-of-drought-climate-change-connection.html#.Wvj8PHPRY0M
Ivan, are you on something? I ask because your sentences and wording are deteriorating.
Maybe its just your anxiety at having your pet AGW fantasies shot down?
Wrong, as usual, on every claim.
A) Pielke is not a skeptic. Ask him, he will tell you.
Or you can read Roger Pielke, Jr’s own words in an article he posted here at WUWT!
Skeptics’ quote R. Pielke Jr., because Roger performs good science and adheres to the scientific method.
are just a few of Pielke’s experience and education.
B) “One skeptic scientist”?
What an absurd statement!
There are the tens of thousands of scientists who signed the Oregon “Global Warming Petition Project;
Or the NASA astronauts, physicists and engineers who signed a letter: “Former Astronauts & NASA Employees Letter on Global Warming”?
Or the multitude of professional atmospheric scientists and meteorologists, just starting off with Richard Lindzen, Joe Bastardi, Judith Curry, William Happer, Freeman Dyson, Roy Spencer, Fred Singer, Willie Soon, etc. etc.?
again, just more delusional bleating from nokey.
We had winter last to late April this year. And so did pretty much the entire eastern 2/3 of the nation. Then a few years back we had summer begin in March and a year after that, snow in May. The weather/climate fluctuate BIGLY….always has…always will. Go to your safe room now, it’ll be ok. (good grief you alarmists are a naive bunch).
Sceptics always fail to distinguish between weather and climate. Weather is a series of unique individual events and climate is a long-term narrative. In the south west of the US there is far less snow but more rainfall. So forget about unique weather events and focus on what the long-term trends that are occurring around the globe…
Uh, Ivan >> Long term, the climate has not changed. Minor warming from the Little Ice Age and associated slight precipitation increases is not climate change. Unless you can give specific examples, your assertions are just that – unsupported assertions.
I’ve been off doing real life for the past few days. I won’t deal with your intervening postings here. However, I’ll just say that you have avoided all of my direct questions. Continue on your current course and I’ll put you in my “Twit” file.
And what about the unprecedented speed of increase in CO2 ppm and what about the current high levels of CO2 ppm that have not been as high for 800,000 years. Is this par for the course? Is this normal? Believe that and you are definitely going into my twit file as living in Alice in Wonderland.
And what, specifically, does the CO2 level have to do with climate, Ivan?
Well Dave that really is something no-one seems to have given any thought to. But I have heard there us an outfit called the IPCC that is 97% certain there is a causal relationship. Perhaps you should check out their website – you might learn a thing or two…
And, specifically, what impact has CO2 had on our current climate, Ivan?
He needs a can of “Laugh it off” from Greg Gutfeld