‘I lose sleep over climate change’ – Warmist Meteorologist Eric Holthaus admits to ‘soul-crushing despair’ – ‘I confess: I need help’



I lose sleep over climate change almost every single night. I can’t remember how long this has been happening, but it’s been quite a while, and it’s only getting worse. I confess: I need help.

A few years ago, I shared my climate change depression on Twitter, and the response was overwhelming. One of my tweets rose up the alt-truth ranks all the way to Fox News, where one host called me a “kook” for publicly expressing my feelings about the environment. Other responses were more empathic. Hundreds of people wrote to me admitting their own personal struggles under the weight of an unraveling world. This was a consolation of sorts. I realized that I am not alone in experiencing a kind of environmental dread.

Like many people who care about the fate of the planet, I’ve spent most of the past year alternating between soul-crushing despair and headstrong hope. My personal situation, however, is a bit unusual in that I get paid to be a climate-science communicator.

I’m a meteorologist by training and a journalist by profession. For the past 12 years, I’ve focused every working day on understanding, explaining, and trying to alleviate the effects of climate change. Yet global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist. It’s difficult not to internalize some of this as a personal failure. “I should be telling that story better,” I’ll tell myself, as the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere continues to climb. The regret is catching up to me.

For now at least, the good days are enough to keep me going. But there are also days when I’m paralyzed. Case in point: This very essay. It sat open in a window on my computer for nearly 11 months, begging to be completed. Yet I resisted. Confronting the existential dread that climate change infuses into nearly every aspect of my life just isn’t something I want to spend my time doing.

About a year ago, I went to see a counselor for anxiety. He seemed unprepared for my emotional crisis. His simple advice was, “Do what you can.” Easier said than done, of course, but the advice helped me to realize something important: We are all in this together.

But for some reason, I still have a hard time talking about these emotional challenges in person. Climate change and mental health are still fairly taboo subjects in polite company (even if these aren’t days in which being polite gets one very far). Over the past several months, I’ve stopped talking about climate change with my parents, my wife, and my sister in order to avoid heated dialogue about what I think is the most important issue in the world. Instead, I’ve privately sought out personal advice from other scientists and journalists, and often commiserated with strangers. My support network has become those who are going through the same emotional crisis.

I know that cutting out my family is a defensive strategy. I know it can’t last forever. In ordinary times, I would welcome any chance to include my loved ones in my life’s work. But right now, I feel like I have to restrain myself from opening up about how I really feel to protect whatever seeds of hope I have left. I don’t know if it’s the right decision, but I know that I need to preserve my own well-being to continue to fight for the planet.

Via: https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2018-2-march-april/last-words/eric-holthaus-got-those-climate-change-blues

This article appeared in the March/April 2018 edition with the headline “Climate Change Blues.”


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Jimmy Haigh

Yup. He sure does.


Someone near to me has struggled with PTSD. It sounds as if Holthaus has something in common with that condition, ie. unwanted thoughts.
There’s no magic bullet treatment. Everyone responds differently. In the case of my friend, a decade of martial arts training and meditation did the trick (or maybe it was just time).


Klonopin. Just sayin’.


Post Traumatic Stress Denial?


I think Mr. Holthaus has Pretraumatic stress disorder.

Bryan A

Perhaps … Preconceived Traumatic Stress Dysfunction.
Though I do feel for you Eric, self induced pressure can be a real bugger.
Ask yourself a some important questions.
Has anything you’ve done had any effect on cooling the climate?
Is there anything you can do (short of eliminating 90% of the populace) that will have an affect?
Are you doing all you personally believe you need to?
Other than take the energy production share of solar\wind from 1.5% to around 3% over the last couple of years, has the multiple $Trillions spent on subsidizing that industry achieved any reduction in CO2?
Since human life emerged some +/- 250,000 years ago, has the varied climate ever been warmer than now? Colder than now? Did humans survive it?
Which temperature direction is more conducive to human mortality (occasional heatwave, increased growing seasons, slowly rising oceans, cold snaps destroying crops, decreased growing seasons, slowly receding oceans, needing to cut down forests to heat and cook, ice sheets forming in population zones?
Can you do anything about that?
Has the climate ever been Stable? (Within 2C, 3C, 4C, 6C, 10C, 12C, 15C)
Will, by necessity, fossil fuels eventually be replaced by other energy sources due to cost/availability alone?
Does CO2 enrichment increase plant productivity?
Is CO2 necessary for ALL Carbon based life (all life on earth)?
Would decreasing atmospheric concentration of CO2 be detrimental or beneficial to all life?
Despite what the MSM says, has storm frequency and intensity truly increased?
Was it increased storm intensity that caused Harvey to flood Huston in 2017 or a storm stalling on the coast for several days?
Which is costlier…Mitigation or Adaptation?
Breath easy Eric not only do plants adore you for the 40,000 ppm CO2 you produce with every exhalation but the entire biosphere thanks you. We evolved to produce CO2 the the biosphere has evolved to make use of it and return the O2 the human animals need to survive.


I think this fellow has Pre-Traumatic Stress Syndrome.


Post Trump Stress Disorder.
It is affecting lots of liberals.
Such a shame.

Samuel C Cogar

It sounds as if Holthaus has something in common with ……
Yup, something in common with ……. whatever it takes to preserve one’s money source.
Quoting Eric Holthaus

I’m a meteorologist by training and a journalist by profession.

Well … ta de dah, ….. a free-lance journalist whose income is dependent upon “readership approval” of his published commentary.
I’m sure that 80%-90% of subscribers to the Sierra Club Magazine will voice 100% approval of Holthaus’s public testifying of his debilitating “mindset”.
Kinda like the 100% approval a wayward “sinner” receives after “testifying” at a church sponsored “Prayer Meeting”.


The guy was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. There’s no telling what kind of meds he’s on. That stuff will eff up a person’s mind.

Evan Jones

Pretraumatic stress disorder.

Bill Powers

Suggestive hypnosis is the condition brought on by indoctrination in this case by a creative centralized government and given official status by government funded bureaucrats and subsequently administered through group hypnosis by the propaganda ministry for the intention of manipulating the masses. Overly suggestible citizens are prone to nightmares. These overly suggestible have come to be know as snowflakes for their low tolerance for stress brought on by the things people say. They believe, not only sticks and stone but words can also break their bones.


Well, let us see now…….?. Could there be a clue as to the kind of -itisitis that may be afflicting Mr. Holthaus in this sentence? This article appeared in the MARCH/APRIL 2018 edition with the headline “Climate Change Blues.”
Could it be that Mr. Holthaus is being afflicted by an un-reasoning fear of the imagined potential negative consequences of April Fool’s day?

Henning Nielsen

I think that if Mr. Holthaus could Anglify his name to Hothouse, he would be more at peace with the climate.


climate-phobia : an illogical fear of a changing climate.
This little recognised condition needs to be faced head on. It seems to affect a large number of people.
The first step to treatment is recognising that you are member of a cult.
Certainly seems to fit some of the description of his symptoms.

I’ve stopped talking about climate change with my parents, my wife, and my sister in order to avoid heated dialogue about what I think is the most important issue in the world. Instead, I’ve privately sought out personal advice from other scientists and journalists, and often commiserated with strangers.

Sadly it seems Eric Hothaus [sic] managed to find a “therapist” who was also a cult member. Hardly likely to identify the problem and suggest deprogramming therapy.
Surrounding himself with equally psychotic sufferers is not going to help him find a therapeutic solution.

R.S. Brown

Where’s the button to vote “kook” ?
There are meds available for free floating anxiety… get some.


Not conflating the climate fraud with “environment” could possibly help. I won’t charge you for that advice.
(Given that I know you won’t take it)


That’s a cool idea. A button for +1 and a button for kook. I like it. A couple show up here from time to time.


Oh that’s Trump’s fault. He should have doubled down Obama’s talks and promised to double American efforts before 2022 (or somewhere in future where he ain’t a president). The left wing would have hailed him. And not HH’d as now.
He could also have said the ocean levels are now about to heal, though of course, the irony would be lost at the left.


Someone needs to start a 12-step program to help those addicted to obsessing about something over which they have no control – the inexorable rise of CO2.
Has Eric taken the first step in at least feeling his powerlessness to do anything about it?


12 step program be damned, how about giving them a real education in the philosophy of science, chemistry, physics and biology instead.
What are his qualifications anyway? I mean what did he study that left him so ignorant and yet so outspoken?
I looked up one Eric Holthaus and came up with this bio – is this him?
Correct me if I’m wrong (please!) but I heard one can qualify in a subject as a major at US universities through a multidisciplinary study pathway, If I understand this system correctly I can see how it could lead to big problems with gaps in learning. – in Australian universities to study sciences you study in first year say physics, chemistry, maths and botany. Second year you may decide in a direction of say chemistry so you’d do physics, chemistry and maths. Third year would be chemistry and physics and there’s your basic degree – a major or double major in physics.
You can’t flit from subject to subject across 3 years, you have to do 3 full years in a subject to major in it. It’s a continuation and refinement across 3 years with no shortcuts. There’s too much to learn to jump from medicine to geography to maths across 3 years..
Note that I’m not saying Oz education is great, I’ve been on both ends of it across the years and I’ve seen abysmal failures creeping into the curricula. Some from laziness, some from the less-adept who would fail in the real world who remained within the system going from student to teacher.. and then there’s those with agendas – empire building at any cost.


Touchy-feely warmists are snowflakes. When confronted with rational facts, formulas, and data that contradict what they believe, they run to safe places (both mentally & physically) to escape any damascene experience.


That would be excellent advice for all alarmists.

Ann Banisher

He just needs to accept that he is a fallen creature. May be get together with other like minded zealots and chant:
“I confess to almighty Government, and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned through my own fault, in my thoughts and in my words, in what I have done, and in what I have failed to do; and I ask blessed Gaia, ever virgin, all the journalists and Climate Scientists, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord, our Government”


Fishing. I would prescribe the patient take an extensive and exhaustive foray into the piscatorial pursuits. This has been known to clear the mind and rejuvenate the soul.


“I looked up one Eric Holthaus and came up with this bio – is this him?”
No, it is he.
Holthaus says: “No one really has wrong ideas about sustainability because it’s so new, there’s so much to learn and do.”
Consider for a few seconds that statement. Basically he says (or is quoted as saying) sustainabiliy thoughts must all be true because they’re so new. Did 2009 see the birth of a new logical fallacy, argumentum ad novitas?
If Holthaus wants to sleep at night, he must spend a day with a true skeptic scientist.

I think Eric could be cured by reading the USAF doc “OWNING THE WEATHER IN 2025” and reading the Mann vs Ball lawsuit where climate warming died due to lack of evidence. Mann would appear to be short for ConMann. Global warming has turned out to be in fact, a global IDIOT competition.


He sure does – need to stop blaming the enemy within on imaginary external justifications.
That would be the first step to recovery.
First he needs to take responsibility for his own mental disarray.
Meditation retreats can help in this regard, inasmuch as he would get to see that the intruding thought patterns and associated discomfort are running a program that is independent of external cause.
I read a book when I was younger which described a couple who were always worrying.
It then explained that when there was nothing to worry about – then they worried about having nothing to worry about.
Eric has latched onto the planet and climate, as a form of escapism and projection.
Until he realizes this, then he’s going to delay his own recovery, through imagining that it is the responsibility of others.
Which is sad for him, but of no consequence for any of us, or for the planet.
The planet is doing fine.


Operative phrase: “I get paid to be a climate-science communicator.” Yup!

The anxiety accompanying guilt trip is part of the employee benefit package. Travel expenses are paid with correct documentation and receipts. How expensive is the monthly premium for the medical insurance policy coverage provided by his employer? Does it cover self inflicted injury and conscience stricken flagellation?

Jimmy Haigh

Is the penny dropping at last?


It’s really just another case of the Trump Derangement Syndrome.
NASA Data Proves Trump Right to Exit Paris Climate Accord
100% Of US ‘Warming’ Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
Reactions to Trump Victory, hilarious !!

Eric you need to get a grip, you’ve clearly allowed your beliefs to trump reality.


exactly….. a meteorologist…you would think after all this time he would have noticed that absolutely nothing has changed




the only cure is to suck start a glock.

Gnomish, another truly evil sh!t.


Oh mod please, that’s too bad.

John Endicott

posts like that give skeptics a bad reputation. leave the death wishing to the alarmists and their video wet dreams of blowing up non-believers.


His mental problem is he knowingly painted himself into a corner, he saw that he was doing it, doubled down and kept doing it, refused to listen to sense, so now wonders why things not look so good. He had such high hopes for being a meta-hero of the calamity, but now he just shovels snow and wonders how it got this way.
I pity his family, but they are his only hope to get to a better mental state and put the torch of global CO2 warrior aside.
Good luck Eric, we all screw up, but stupid gets punished, and so it should be, don’t screw up your kids with your own miserable mental situation, you have a greater responsibility there, you just totally forgot it. The CO2 BS us stealing your life way, get over it and focus on what actually matters to a real man.


Australia has the most climate scare psychologists per capita. I suggest clinical help down under. They can rub it in even deeper.

Tom Judd

I can fully understand it. I mean, c’mon, if gravity ever stopped our friends from down under would fall right off the planet. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be scared about that?!


Let me get this straight – you’re saying in Australia, they rub it in deeper down under?


well, the East coast was a convict settlement.. who knows what they get up to on that side of the country
(West Oz was settled by ‘The Capitalists’ as our families were known in the day)

I’ve no idea how old Holthaus is, but if he is 50 plus, how did he survive the potential horrors of the cold War?

John Hardy



Five years to wait then before he gets the answer to everything.


No wonder … he’s one of the ‘captured’ generation. Really incapable of opening their minds to other opinions and facts that don’t align with the propaganda they’ve grown up with … I use “grown up” loosely.


Oh, he has plenty of time to find his brain. Like a couple of years, at least.


“Just go with the flow.” – Anon

Jeff Alberts

Sounds exactly like a religious person talking about the “end times”.

Alan Robertson

Hello Mr. Holthaus,
Might I suggest that your subconscious is trying to tell you that you have devoted your working life to an effort to give credence to a lie?
The truth will set you free.


He has an acute case of reality … his cognitive dissonance is rightfully tormenting him for his wasted opportunity in life.


…. and that streetcred is their punishment. Let’s not allow them to forget that. I’m going to bear the grudge for the next 20 years, and make them eat excrement.

Dan DaSilva

Jeff, religious people do not talk about end times like this. Are you just trying to smear alarmists by the comparison to dreaded religious people? One of those religious people was Sir Issac Newton. He wrote about the book of Daniel and end times.

Jeff Alberts

Well, a very large number of comments on many stories on this site compare CAGW to religion. So how is this different? Yes I’ve heard people talk about the end times like this, did they do everything right, are they going to heaven, etc, worrying over nothing.

Jeff Alberts

And Dan, not all religious people view their religion the same way. You should know that. Saying “religious people don’t…” Is implying they all behave the same way. They don’t, not by a long shot.


The problem with savimg people and spotted owls is that they die of old age anyway, and all species go extinct regardless. And if a tiny number of individuals get really lucky, they get compacted in dirt, and turned into a rock, for a few hundred million years, until eroded away, ending up as mud in some estury—oh the humanity!
Life is not save-able, it is fungible, infinitely adapable, like the climate it adjusts and your body itself cares not for your politics, ideals or mental weakness. Your body has its own agenda, and purposes, it just carries you, the ‘mind’ around as ab evolutionary tool, that is occasionally useful to a body’s agenda.
Adapt your mind to the reality—or don’t, whatever, no one will care much. The planet isn’t in danger, nor is life, but people sure are. Accept it, because you can’t do anything about it, except make it worse via trying to stuff, looking for control that is ultimately entirely imaginary.
Funny to watch though.


Depends on the religion/sect I guess. Matt 6:24 – drives door to door religion salesmen nuts.


6:34. typo

Gunga Din

Matt 6:24 works too.

Dan DaSilva

Matt 6:34:”Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Patrick, I am not following you, please help.


Dan, this Eric guy, much like the religion salesmen (men per species, not necessarily sex) that ring the doorbell at naptime, they pin the end at a certain time, never considering that they might die in a traffic accident that very day. As such, they tackle uncertain worries years from now while the business of today remains untouched.

Brent Hargreaves

Almost, Jeff. This nutter IS a religious person talking about the end times.


There are many people that feel theirs is a religion, all others are cults.
This is doubly true for atheists.


@ MarkW
If you equate non-belief to a-theist you’d be misunderstanding the broader situation. A-theism is as pointless as theism, and most people assumed to be a-theists or agjostics actually just don’t give enough of a rats’ kyber pass to be passionate about a religion or a favorite god—pro, or con. They mosty just laugh at theism and tollerate it.
i.e. Secular
“Secular (adjective form secular, from Latin saeculum meaning “worldly”, “of a generation”, “temporal”, or a span of about 100 years)
Secularity is the state of being separate from religion, or of not being exclusively allied with or against any particular religion. Historically, the word “secular” was not related or linked to religion, but was a freestanding term in Latin which would relate to any mundane endeavor. The idea of a dichotomy between religion and the secular originated in the 18th century European Enlightenment. Furthermore, since “religion” and “secular” are both Western concepts that were formed under the influence of Christian theology, other cultures do not necessarily have words or concepts that resemble or are equivalent to them. In many cultures, little conceptual or practical distinction is made between “natural” and “supernatural” phenomena and the very notions of “religious” and “nonreligious” dissolve into unimportance or nonexistence, … ”


Cheap smear of religion, Jeff. There are religions (like Christianity) and then there are cults (like CAGW).

Jeff Alberts

“Cheap smear of religion, Jeff. There are religions (like Christianity) and then there are cults (like CAGW).”
I was making an observation based on my experience. Plain and simple.
The only difference between a “religion” and a “cult” is scale. I’ve encountered many christians who act like they’re in a cult.

Ian Magness

“I lose sleep over climate change almost every single night. I can’t remember how long this has been happening, but it’s been quite a while, and it’s only getting worse. I confess: I need help.“


Be fair. If I had spent my entire career pushing the global warming religion I’d be losing sleep too. Imagine how bad it would be if he had a conscience as well as a sense of looming unemployability.


The belief that global warming is mainly-man-made and is likely to cause major problems is a secular belief. It’s not a religion. Marxists had strange beliefs but nobody calls Marxism a religion. Or do they? Over the years there have been many secular beliefs that others find strange but they remain secular. Some strange people think you can decide whether you are male or female. Weird. But it’s not a religion.

James Francisco

One of my concerns for the people in the future is that if a real world crisis did occur few will believe because of the present distortion of science and news media.


They are going exactly that right now…..this loon is losing sleep over something he’s fabricated in his own mind
In the mean time, there are things going on that really will break your heart…


Whether climate change, Trump, GMOs, assault rifles, or pain of Hillary losing, these idiots need to get a grip. I’ve often said that a genuine invasion of real Martians with real death rays would help these delicate and gullible fools have something really worth worrying about.

Gunga Din

A bit OT but the Martian thing reminded me of this.

Here’s a prime example of “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”, offered by an English professor from the University of Colorado for an actual class assignment:
The professor told his class one day: “Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. As homework tonight, one of you will write the first paragraph of a short story. You will email your partner that paragraph and send another copy to me. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story and send it back, also sending another copy to me. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on… back and forth. Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the emails and anything you wish to say must be written in the email. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached.”
The following was actually turned in by two of his English students, Rebecca and Gary.
THE STORY (first paragraph by Rebecca).
At first, Laurie couldn’t decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her of Carl. who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile. But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question.
(Second paragraph by Gary)
Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed, asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. “A.S. Harris to Geost Station 17,” he said into his transgalactic communicator. “Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far…” But before he could sign off, a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship’s cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the cockpit.
He bumped his had and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for completely ruining things with the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. “Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel,” Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth, when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspaper to read, no television to diestract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her.
Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu’udrian mothership had launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dimwitted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the unilateral Aerospace Disarmament Treaty through the congress had left the Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien emipires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty, the Anu’udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverise the entire planet. With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion, which vaporized poor, stupid Laurie.
This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic, semi-literate adolescent.
Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered, tedious, neurotic, whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. “Oh, shall I have chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of F–KING TEA??? Oh no, what am I to do? I am such an air headed bimbo who reads too many Danielle Steele novels!”
In your dreams, HO. Go drink some tea!
A+ – I really liked this one!

real world crisis did occur

If a real world crisis occurs we’ll have good evidence for it. Because it will be real, a crisis, and have happened. You know?, as opposed to being something which is fake, a non-event, and not happening.

J Mac

I lose sleep also….
I like to open the window at the head of my bed a bit and enjoy fresh air while I sleep. In the spring, as the sun rises earlier, happily chirping, really loud little birds show up and get me awake at 5 am!
Because…. climate change!

Mayor of Venus

Seasonal change of the time of sunrise is NOT climate change (But you know that, right?). Climate is defined as weather averaged over 30 years.


Robert Austin

Climate defined as weather averaged over 30 years? Less than a half cycle of the PDO! And in 1979, Arctic ice extent was the perfect value, departure from which was an anathema. But if you are from Venus, what do you know of earth?

Jeff Alberts

Mayor, you lost your sarcasm detector in the election.


Mayor, “Climate is defined as weather averaged over 30 years.” Only because the WMO said that was all the good data they had at the time.;)

Agree, Lee.
Given identified multi-decade climatic cycles, 100+ years would seem to be best.


You need some wind turbines installed around your house, that will deal with the birds.

J Mac

Men are from Mars…
Didn’t think I had to put the /s on that one (12:38)!

Louis Hooffstetter

Yes, and those little twits are probably an invasive species (because of… Climate Change) that eco-nazis think should be eradicated for having the audacity to move into their neighborhood!


You need a wind turbine.


Climate change makes birds get louder ….. FACT

No need to feel guilty. Do the right research in your own backyard. Find out there is no man mdae global warming.
Be happy. Take your SUV up the hill and take your dogs for a walk.


OMG Eric, as a fellow meteorologist, get over yourself and wake up to what isn’t happening. Your schooling hasn’t carried you far in life so far. I’ve followed your chain of drivel for years now, via WUWT and others, and it is clearly evident that you have issues that need addressing through a professional physiatrist, not a “counselor” or social media. I loose no sleep at all over your imagined planetary problems as there are none that we can change or control.


He doesn’t need a psychiatrist, he just needs a dose of scientific objectivity.


either a good hard slap upside the head..or a boot in the butt would be my options
self obsessed pathetic snowflake nutter.
theres real crap happening in the world and dipsh*ts like him drivel on about sfa and expect sympathy?
not a scrap from me


I recommend triple strength objectivity 2 times a day and a strong dose of intellectual honesty. Sweet dreams Eric


A very large tumbler of a good single malt every few hours would probably help the most. Actually, with his problems, the cheapest booze would work just as well. He’s simply one of the most pitiful greenies I’ve ever heard of.


‘I lose sleep over climate change’
Recommend a warm glass of milk and a cookie . . . maybe a few beers . . . or couple shots of whisky . . . trip to Bangkok with the climateers? If none of these work take two aspirin and repost.

Greg Woods

‘A couple shots of whisky’ No, I would up the dose: A bottle a day every day until the symptoms disappear…

Ed Zuiderwijk

Irish whiskey. It works for me.


Shillelagh would be better.


Soooo, he left his computer running with this essay in an open window for 11 months wasting energy and worsening CO2 emmission / climate change, but didn’t care? That speaks volumes to the false narrative he speaks of and actually giving a crap about it. He needs much more than counseling and the medications he is obviously abusing. Scary stuff!


Does that mean that he has had that window open with that item in the window since last April Fool’s day or just after?


A good soaking with a heavy rain through the open window to short out and destroy his computer would have been the best possible thing that could happen to help solve his serious mental problem.


No, he doesn’t care cos’ he’s a middle class, selfish liberal concerned about nothing but himself and his wealth.
Whilst he’s fretting and wringing his hands about what to do, there are people in developing nations dying because of his interference, 200,000,000 predicted by 2050 if we continue on our current path of climate control delusion.
Yes Eric. Two Hundred Million people, dead because of you and your insane cronies!
Try counting them when you try to sleep. I’m sure you’l quickly drift off into a sound slumber, safe in the knowledge that someone else is suffering, just not you.

John Endicott

For too many “greens” two hundred million dead is considered a good start, they’d love for that number to be much higher.


They are too stupid/selfish to realise the consequences of their actions.
However, whilst sceptics are struggling to engage with the overwhelming alarmists political and media domination, this is our ‘97%’.
We should be promoting it as our political message to the man in the street. It’s a real and verifiable number because the numbers are there right now.
Millions in the developing world are dying every year from toxic fume inhalation, from burning biomass (wood and animal dung) over open fires, in enclosed spaces, for cooking and heating. Nor is it outlying villages, there are cities reliant on ‘illegal’ loggers to provide timber so these people can live.
The west brands them ‘illegal loggers’ because they earn a living by responding to local demand for firewood, but the West has made it a bureaucratic and PR industry in itself, with the ‘sustainable’ brand stamped on everything wooden so we don’t import illegally felled timber. But these guys don’t have the supply chain nor the wherewithal to do anything but provide timber to locals who burn the damn stuff.
Sorry, off on one mate.

Steve Fraser

Must be a Mac user. You could never run a windows system that long without a reboot.

John Endicott

certainly not if that windows system was connected to the internet. The auto updates would have forced a reboot long ago.


Dear Eric, consider the possibility that you might be brainwashed. There are millions like you.
And, the lies we are told go much, much deeper than cagw. If you delve deeply enough into them, then you will be at risk of truly going mad. (Insert insane laughter here.)


Just today James Hansen was interviewed on ‘Quirks and Quarks’ on CBC radio. Or perhaps it was a replay. The brainwashing continues in Canada relentlessly.

JLC of Perth

The climate is and has always been out of human control.


Here I was hoping he’d actually asked to post an article here…… NAAHHHHHH! He doesn’t have that kind of courage.

Latimer Alder

‘The revolver is in the library, sir. Next to the bottle of whisky’
‘Thank you, Jeeves. That will be all’

The sickos are coming out of the woodwork. Would you take your own advice, Latimer?


Latimer isn’t the one bleating about his poor life as a middle class liberal whilst 200,000,000 people in the developing world are predicted to die by 2050 thanks to the lack of clean, cheap, fossil fuel derived electricity.

So that makes it OK to suggest he commit suicide, HotScot? Sick shit. I’ve seen violent death, and it benefits nobody.

Latimer Alder

If i were as mentally disturbed as our climate alarmist chum, I might do so,
But happily I am very well adjusted and can distinguish between minor changes likely to be beneficial overall and the witterings of the Climate Doomsday Cult to which he belongs.

If you were as mentally disturbed, Latimer, would your family appreciate some yahoo suggesting you commit suicide?


Dave Fair
What’s worse, making a comment on a blog, or actually supporting homicide?
I too have seen lots of violent deaths.
Why would anyone give a monkeys about Eric Holthaus’ feelings when he is so self absorbed he can’t see the suffering his actions promote?

It’s his loved ones whose feelings that matter, HotScot. He’d be dead.


That’s like the alarmist refrain “It’s our grandchildrens future”.

John Endicott

“What’s worse, making a comment on a blog, or actually supporting homicide?”
why should it be a race to the bottom? two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lives in Tuscon Arizona.

James Francisco

Bill, maybe he could be cured if he moved to Alaska or Canada. On second thought how about North Korea. He wouldn’t have to worry about the future of mankind, just his own future.


No, no, he needs to move to Colorado, then he can get legally stoned every night. He would find himself to be a much, much happier person.
(I wouldn’t advise this for a person who is actually productive with their life, but he’s an admitted climate scaremongering writer, so the world will actually be better off if he turns on and drops out of the game. He’ll be better off than he is now, too.)

John F. Hultquist

“Tuscon” ??
I visited Tucson once. June. 117°F.
Hottest I’ve ever experienced when not in front of a pizza oven

Mayor of Venus

Isn’t his home in St. Paul, Minnesota?


I’ve stopped talking about climate change with my parents, my wife, and my sister

Climate change is not just the most important thing in his life, it is the only thing.
He won’t have to worry about cutting out his wife permanently.
I can see the divorce on the way.
{Five years from now}
Eric Holthaus: Climate change wrecked my marriage.
Climate change causes divorce rates to rise.


Seems like he is already divorcing: https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/994284717699686400
Though at least he is getting 10 hours sleep, not sure the last time I got that much sleep.


Well, that was fast.


Eric Holthaus
‏Verified account @EricHolthaus
May 9
having a day job focused on climate change while going through a divorce is a special kind of grief process””


Stop savaging this man. . .it was the sun . . . the Arizona heat I tell you . . . humor him . . .


Maybe his wife is a skeptic.

John Harmsworth

He can’t talk about climate change with his wife, sister or parents. Obsessive personality? Ya’ think? He does need professional help. A qualified therapist could take him outside on progressively warmer days until eventually he could go to the water park on a scorching hot day and play with the other meteorologists who don’t seem to think the world is ending.
He is unwell!


Yeah, I thought I’d read that a little while back.


“Maybe his wife is a skeptic.”
My first thought.


Don’t worry; be happy.
Tucson has been hotter and colder in the past. It will be again. Although all that pavement and those air conditioners don’t help.


The most depressing and worrisome part is that his reaction, as a professional “climate communicator” is to stop talking with people who disagree with him.
There are no words.

…and as a Pro “Climate Communicator”, his stated worry is “rising CO2”.
Is he concerned about how much greener the earth is in the last 50 or so years?
He can’t be worried about rising temperatures, or more extreme weather since he is also a meteorologist by training so he should know better, despite MSM claims..

John Minich

I’ve been taught to think in terms of 1,000 years and more. So I see it as just the Earth warming up back to normal, or just a part of an erratic sine wave.


Or who even might disagree with him, or not agree with him enthusiastically enough.

Scott Koontz

I’m prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong. I’m taking this bold step because the method has promise. So let’s not pay attention to the little yippers who want to tear it down before they even see the results.
— Watts, who quickly changed his mind when he saw the results
Come on, Watts. Get some help, science or otherwise.

Louis Hooffstetter

Scotty, Tony just banned you from ‘Real Climate Science’ for this type of trolling. Take a hint! Get a clue! Then get a life!
Your attempts at thread bombing won’t work here.


That is a Watts quote, so glass house and all.
Why would Watts stoop so low as to mock someone with a concern? Seems like a non-science and rude thing to do.

Crispin in Waterloo

Don’t worry, be happy. The entire edifice of ‘global warming disasters’ relies on the anticipated high feedback factor relating to the water vapour increase that should be driven by a CO2-based temperature rise.
The feedback is in fact very small. There is nothing to worry about. The CO2 used to be much higher than it is now. The temperatures used to be much higher than they are now. In both cases, nothing happened. What we know is that when temperatures are up, and the CO2 is up, everything is better. When temperatures are down, and CO2 is down, everything is worse.
Nothing in your lifetime will change enough to step outside the bounds of recent, recorded history, save in social organization. While there are those who would love you to be distressed, perhaps to the point of giving them money, there is simply no need for it.
Relax. Chill. You are going to be fine, and so will be everyone else. The global population will soon peak. Food production is only a fraction of what it could be. Over the next few centuries we will move a little higher inland, just as we always have. Have a look at the book “Waterworlds”. It is about drowned cities under the oceans, lots of them. It shows that there is nothing unusual about what is happening to our pretty little globe.
We already know how to recycle, how to remediate mines, how to turn garbage into power, products and life-saving chemicals. The missing ingredient at the moment is global, representative, elected management of trans-border affairs. We have patches of coordination like for ships, telephones, and control of substances, but not proper planet-wide justice. As we build a planetary society capable of literally reaching for the stars, we are going to have a lot of fun, dispensing forever with the aches and pains of past behaviours. Rejoice that you live in this day, not rue it as a burden. Future generations will honour in perpetuity those who established justice and fairness for all. Yes, growing up is hard to do. It’s OK. You’ll get through it. So will we all.


Ha-ha-ha. So funny. The Chinese played the West for the brainwashed saps and suckers they are. But as with the trade war, don’t blame the Chinese. They were perfectly transparent about building hundreds of coal plants (while shutting a few cola plants in dense urban areas)… They SAID their emissions would rise until at least 2030. But most of the saps chose to ignore the reality while Xi proclaimed he was a Climate leader simply to encourage the West to euthanize themselves. And they are! (Especially in California).
However it seems the Germans have learned their lesson and and climbing down from the Energiewende fiasco… though they will be really screwed if they continue closing their nuke power plants (We can all have a good laugh when the merde hits the fan and the German Greens and their enablers like Merkel get what’s coming to them)

John Harmsworth

Behold, the truth!


Unfortunately Mr. Holthaus exhibits symptoms very similar to those who experience Electromagnetic hypersensitivity. He is, shall we say, Climate hypersensitive. These types of individuals respond very well to cognitive behavioral therapy.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity

Complaints of electromagnetic hypersensitivity may mask organic or psychiatric illness. Diagnosis of those underlying conditions involves investigating and identifying possible known medical causes of any symptoms observed. It may require both a thorough medical evaluation to identify and treat any specific conditions that may be responsible for the symptoms, and a psychological evaluation to identify alternative psychiatric/psychological conditions that may be responsible or contribute to the symptoms.
Symptoms may also be brought on by imagining that exposure is causing harm, an example of the nocebo effect. Studies have shown that reports of symptoms are more closely associated with belief that one is being exposed than with any actual exposure.


My heart bleeds for him.🤣

James Snook

Cheer up matey “global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist” yet the Planet is fine. Cleave to the fact that our species is incredibly adaptable and compared to the horrendous things we do to each other in the name of Faith, any change in climate will be like a walk in the park for us.

R. Shearer

MM emissions are only a small percentage of global emissions. To be up by 20% is not possible.

John Harmsworth

Don’t harsh the man’s guilt complex, dude! It’s all he’s got left. Evenhis dog is going with his wife!

Here’s John Reilly, MIT climate scientist, actually breaking down live on air because Trump supposedly cited his department’s research out of context (he didn’t). His breakdown comes only seconds after saying the Paris Agreement will furnish 1°C reduction in 2100 temperatures when the department he leads consistently puts out reports showing its 0.65°C. He adds 0.35°C by adding spurious, hoped for, vaguely outlined emission reductions after 2030 i.e. not agreed at Paris or at any other time.


+1 scute.
“1°C reduction in 2100”
Why do we want a 1°C reduction in 2100 again? Does anyone know? ….. and, since no one knows a real number for climate sensitivity, how would one calculate this bogus number? I’ve lost track. Is this bogus squared or bogus cubed or are we entering new orders of magnitude?

Bob Denby

Eric confesses that he needs help. As my mother used to say: ‘..help yourself little man, help yourself do — don’t wait for others to wait upon you…’
Eric’s a little short on scientific knowledge, which make life a little difficult for a ‘science communicator’. He’s got the gun but no ammo.


Try Xanax. And professional counseling. That should do the trick.


Considering what psychology has been reduced to, Xanax might be the only thing to try.


Yeah, sleep deprivation will drive you insane and then kill you.

J Mac

The propensity of the human mind for self-delusion is rampant and demonstrated by so many ‘save the world from (fill in the blank) type activists. People listen to their negative thoughts and irrational fears…. and begin to believe them. Soon they are making really bad choices, based on the self-delusion. This guys delusion is driving his cognitive dissonance, as illustrated by his own statements in this story that concludes so perfectly with the delusional paean “I know that I need to preserve my own well-being to continue to fight for the planet.”


The cup of poison he sips from daily is, in the words of James Joyce, the chalice he bears through a throng of foes.

john pic

The real global warming disaster bby christopher booker

Dear Eric,
Console yourself with the realization that climate sensitivity to CO2 is less than half of that predicted by climate models. So, move 100 miles away from the equator every five years and you’ll never even notice its gettin’ warmer out there.

Mayor of Venus

But I noticed he is already “based in Minnesota”, so he should meet some of his fellow Minnesotans who are FOR global warming, who could explain to him the many benefits they expect global warming could bring to their state.


Also, to add – Eric, you way overestimate your importance in the grand scheme of things, as in you have none at all. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen no matter what you do, no matter what choices you make, because you really aren’t even a flew on an elephants backside when it comes to your ability to affect the earth. So stop luxuriating in the fantasy that “you can make a difference” because you can’t, you big loser.


From a Ph.D., not in meteorology
“This (eclipse) path was described long in advance in precise detail by experts on our solar system, using the same kind of expertise required to predict the impacts of global warming.”
Corrected by someone who noted that the equations were known to Newton and-–“..the science and technology of weather and climate forecasting are maturing – somewhere about junior high level. It all remains very uncertain”
Maybe a good physics and history class would help.


HDHoese is on to something. How about more education in the sciences. A few good university engineering courses would help to straighten his thinking and understanding.

Timo V

I know what he is going through as I’ve suffered the same condition, it’s called GAD:
Don’t be too hard on him, he really can’t help himself. If he wouldn’t worry about CAGW, something else would fill his head with terrible horrors. I found help, SSRIs and therapy helped me. However, his CAGW fears are equally irrational as my own health worries were. I feel for him.


I think you have the best take on this of anyone here – what’s going on with Eric is actually a serious form of mental illness, and “climate change” is just the name he’s using to focus it on. If it wasn’t that, he would be losing sleep and losing his family over something else.

Timo V

Exactly. He is going through hell, believe me. I hope he gets better. There really are scumbags in this trade, but I believe he is a victim. He really might be a decent guy, haunted by CAGW obsession.


The trip back to reality can be painful and traumatizing. Are certain people exploiting others’ misfortune to further the ClimateChange™ agenda?

John Harmsworth

@Piper Paul
A big part of the economic catastrophe that is global warming policies is the chronic abuse of societal problems by politicians to give them moral authority and freedom from responsibility for things they failed at.
They used to create nationalist fervour for these purposes, but electorates started to see body bags coming home so they’ve moved on to something more nebulous and noble. ”
“Vote for me and I’ll save the world”(from the fake problem I invented)

He may have a condition. I suppose if the the trigger is global warming, it could be something else as well.

John Harmsworth

It hasn’t warmed for 18 years and his condition seems to have worsened.


……Could it be that annually on or near April first there are generalized outbreaks of Generalized Anxiety Disorder??


If that’s the case he apparently didn’t let his wife in on the joke.


Timo V
I feel certain you didn’t turn to the media to wash your laundry and use your condition to emotionally blackmail others.

Timo V

Hell no! In my darkest days, I slept two hours a night and was so burned out, there was no way I could think anything else but certainty I was going to die. I have not ruled out possibility him being an acehole, but generally narcissists/psychopaths are unable to create GAD, life’s not fair;)


I have a good friend who is experiencing the same thing with Donald Trump. I told her to turn off the damn TV and stay away from the Internet. Go for long walks.
But she can’t so she started medicating. I’m not sure how many she is currently on but she has gotten to the point where she is taking one drug just to counter the side effects of another.
It really is a sad situation that is not letting up. It is a mental illness, though not sure she is deficient in something or her brain is misfiring.


It’s the pessimist in all of us.
Most of us just use optimism to control it.

Robert W Turner

Going to college to learn about meteorology does not make one a meteorologist. It’s certainly no coincidence that this kook became a pseudo-journalist instead of putting their schooling to use and actually becoming what they spent 4-6 years of their life training to do.
This is the typical type of person that takes a few college tests and then has the audacity to call themself a scientist. Just like all the rest of their ilk, displaying delusional behavior and virtue signaling —

Case in point: This very essay. It sat open in a window on my computer for nearly 11 months, begging to be completed. Yet I resisted. Confronting the existential dread that climate change infuses into nearly every aspect of my life just isn’t something I want to spend my time doing.

I can’t wait to see how this kook can lecture us on the climate-boogeyman from an essay typed over the course of a few months on a machine using a 500W power supply that is apparently never turned off — not.

Richard M

If it wasn’t climate change he would just find something else to fear. Hope he isn’t Katagelophobic.

Tom in Florida

Perhaps Phobophobia.


What next?

Pamela Gray

So. This guy appears to not have paid much attention in his meteorology classes and instead was asleep having night-terrors. I don’t remember the basics of the water cycle to be that frightening.

Will Nelson

The only thing we really have to fear is the fear of CAGW itself.

John Endicott

nah, the thing to truly fear is the misguided climate policies that believers of CAGW foist upon the rest of us. useless solutions to a non-problem.

I think he is more worried about the zero value of his life’s work.

Mickey Reno

Eric, to quote Bob Newhart in his role of a therapist on SNL, stop it! You’re clearly valuing the wrong things in your life. The planet is not your responsibility. Society and politics are only in tiny part, your responsibility. Everyone else bears their own share of the “damage” which, to my way of thinking, is no concern at all in terms of the CO2, which plants love and which, in turn animals love to eat.
More practically, stop reading the internet. Get a new job. Fixing old cars is very satisfying. If you really want to help people, learn how to be a great plumber. And don’t whine to your new co-workers about anything. If that level of change is too much, do something smaller, like rescue an abused animal from a shelter or grow a garden with tomatoes and herbs that you eat yourself. Dance with your daughter or have a game of catch with your son (or vis-a-versa). Read Princess Bride to your child. Life is for living.
I’m not a Christian, but I find the message in Switchfoot’s “I Dare You to Move” to be inspirational when life and depression start getting a hold on my psyche. Listen to it. Take it to heart. Then pull your head out.


* understand that your depression is from within you. meaning…
* it has just nothing to do with any event in the world. Could had been New World Order, Aliens, Radiowavs, vaccines, cancer, poverty, war, or whatever. You choose “climate change”.
* this was bad choice. Because, not only you can do nothing about it, but your way of life conflict with your belief. An anti-vaxer CAN live without vaccine (this may kill him, but, everyone has to die anyway, so…). You cannot. So you live in cognitive dissonance
* Cognitive dissonance is very bad trip. But part of you is happy to make you miserable, and pushing hard to have you continue. And make others miserable, too. Ancients called this “demons”. Call this as you want.
* but you can fight back. Very simple.
1) Either put your act were your word are, namely, turn to some sort of Amish-like life (full renewable, with zero computer, internet and the like), or revel in the delight of fossil fuel life, stopping all this CAGW nonsense
2) cope with your real psy issue, now you know they are unrelated to CAGW


Well, of all the things I’ve read here, this offering by paqyfelyc seems to be pretty close. Eric has an obssessive compulsive anxiety disorder that doesn’t need chemicals to fix it.
He feels frozen, that he can’t do anything to stop what he perceives as a threat, and furthermore, no one is listening to him. He’s cried “WOLF!!” so much and nothing has happened, so why would anyone listen to him? He can’t have HIS way, either. His wife is ditching him. Can’t say as I blame her, since he doesn’t seem to have an ounce of common sense.
If he’s in Minnesota, I just checked the temperature up in Minneapolis, which is a balmy 59F, so how is that warming, again, Eric?
Do you EVER GO OUTSIDE???? Do you ever get OUT of the city and into the open countryside? EVER??? I don’t think you do, and that is 95% of your problem, sport.
Like I said, his issues don’t need a chemical fix, because that doesn’t solve his problem. He’s unwilling to accept that other people have a different point of view. He can’t control what they think or say. Tough bananas!!!
If he’s really as concerned as he says, which I doubt – lots of virtue signaling going on there – he’d go put his money where his mouth is. I do not think he’s willing to give up the comfort of his citified environment and life to abandon civilization. He hasn’t offered even one thing he does to “SAVE THE PLANET!” because as the late, great George Carlin said, he doesn’t give a S–T about the planet in the abstract. It is ALL show and NO GO with him.
Do I feel sorry for him? Nope. He hasn’t offered anything that says he’s willing to do his share. I think spending a year with the Amish as a farmhand, in their environment with basic 19th century stuff would be a splendid way for him to start his Pilgrim’s Progress, don’t you? I’d love to spend a summer with an Amish housewife who knows the ins and outs of baking really good bread with a wood-fired oven.
Until then, Eric – dry up, will you? Put up or shut up.

Read this piece of crap http://www.businessinsider.com/carbon-dioxide-record-human-health-effects-2018-5. If you believe even 10% of it you will be a worse wreck than Eric. There is a certain cadre of journalists that seem determined to destroy the peace of mind of as many people as possible. Lies, misrepresentation, exaggeration and sensationalism ar jus convenient tools to them.


They’re doing it to sell add space.
The content used to sell the add space only needs to attract eyes. i.e. talking and linking to it was exactly what they wanted you to do.
This message was bought to you by, “Don’t Be Evil”. 😉


A feeble attempt to emotionally blackmail others to conform to the CAGW rhetoric, to save him.
Selfishness exhibits no bounds.


“Please validate the purpose and meaning of my life with long passages of carefully crafted fellation and commiseration.”
How about no.


If his livelihood depends on believing in something (CAGW) that’s not real I can see where this could cause issues.


A lot of idiots lose sleep over ridiculous ideas. Nothing new.

John F. Hultquist

Yet global carbon emissions are more than 20 percent higher now than when I started work as a climate journalist.
Every story has an ending.
The assumed “forcing” goes up but the temperature change can hardly be distinguished from zero, and there are multiple other reasons why temperature can fluctuate.
[ Ref; Donald Rumsfeld: But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know. ]
My advice is to move on to writing about something that needs attention, say, the care needed for elderly. It is an important issue.


Sleep is overrated, I mostly just have little nightmares (the ones I remember) involving my previous career, jobs that you know are going to go over budget.
Thank goodness I never went to war.

The Original Mike M

Just start reading WUWT to find out just how misled you have been all these years. There actually isn’t anything to be worried about at all, more CO2 and warmer have always been better for life on this planet – it is just a fact! Given you are a communicator you been subjected to the worst of the propaganda that isn’t actually intended to inform people about climate science at all – it is intended to scare people into believing our CO2 emissions are bad in order to advance a masked political agenda (globalization) spearheaded by political organizations not scientific ones. For example the United Nations, US federal government, EU, etc. plus a gaggle of non government organizations are stuffing their pockets with money from scared people like you giving all of them an incentive to just keep doing that. As with ANY political organization, the ultimate aim is POWER because that’s the fuel they all run on. Their power to control people’s minds is what brings in the cash and this Climate Change thing has been one heck of a cash cow to all of them for a long time. Many of them have made careers out of it so they are not going to go away quietly. Dwight Eisenhower foresaw this very thing when he was president and warned us about it.
The first step to fixing any problem is recognizing that one exists so I congratulate you on that milestone alone! In your case the next step is rather simple on paper but might be difficult for you in practice – stop blindly accepting what the alarmists are claiming and instead start requiring them to supply proof of their claims. All real scientists are skeptics not sheep. The more scientifically you look at the climate change propaganda – the sooner you’ll conclude that they been lying to you all along and stop worrying over nothing.

I’m so tired of this pathetic self-loathing snowflake nonsense, if these people think the human race is so bad why don’t they put themselves out of their own misery.
Environmental policy in western countries has ended the excesses of the industrial revolution, air is cleaner than it’s been for 150 years, forests are being planted faster than ever before, species aren’t being hunted to extinction, cars are cleaner and more economical and gas from fracking is cleaner than the fuels it replaces. The west is a pretty civilised place it is much friendlier to the environment than it was even when Holthaus was born and it’s improving as technology progresses.
Our civilisation & relative eco-frientlyness is built on cheap abundant energy which the likes of Holthaus would deny to those who are still in an exploitative stage of development. As always it seems eco-zealots are standing in the way of a better world.
Do us all a favour Eric – you know what to do.


I think my idea – spend a year with an Amish farm family doing things THEIR way, and learn about the REAL world. Far more practical and he might appreciate the world much more.
It might change his perspective substantially.


it means being really tired from a hard day’s work. Usually a good cure for sleeplessness


The poor freakin Amish! Mercy!

Jaffa68 >> You are an evil bas!ard. Crawl back into your hole in the ground.
I suffered as Eric described: Nightmares, depression, alienation, etc. My PTSD symptoms included fearsome flashbacks, violent nightmares, alienation, hyper-mania alternating with depression, etc.
Luckily, years later I got help from the VA. They do an overall great job for a huge bureaucracy.
Now, my problem is mainly ahedonism.
Good luck, Erick! But you really do need to get off your CAGW fixation; as noted, the world will continue to develop with fossil fuels. Idealists tend to ignore facts on the ground: the poor of the world will advance.


It’s an illness. Try Buddhism as an Rx— all the world (reality) is impermanent/always changing. Man’s attempt to grasp upon it,…to hold it,.. to fixate and his inability to control causes his unhappiness. Happiness is achieved by letting go,.. stop trying to grasp,.. to control. It’s our Hubris and folly that makes us vein and suffer.

Other than the echo chamber sceptic community on WUWT, many people who understand the environment and live in the countryside share very similar feelings sometimes.
Urbanites – who I think make strong sceptics – have very little understanding of how AGW is affecting climate patterns.
because it isn’t important to them. On the other hand, homesteaders for example are daily working with and in nature and so for them this issue has far more relevance. Sceptics can carry on living in their comfortable
a/c city apartments but let’s see them whining and bleating for help when the shit really hits the fan.


LOL…isn’t that convenient…….when people who “live in the countryside” vote republican….they are ignorant backward clingers

I live in the countryside (always have) and notice the ever-changing weather, but I’ve never seen any signs of AGW.

Agreed Latitude!
It appears that nokinsman has a weak rural speech understanding.
nokey, conveniently ignores the many WUWT commenters, who identified themselves as farmers. Just as it has ignored the many weather professionals who visit and comment here.
Appears to be a case of rampant projection and delusion.

Say’s who? Say’s you my friend. Don’t do yourself down and don’t get bogged down in petty politics when it comes to big issues.

“ivankinsman May 12, 2018 at 10:40 pm
Say’s who? Say’s you my friend. Don’t do yourself down and don’t get bogged down in petty politics when it comes to big issues.”

“Says you”, nokey!”
All projection, specious claims and falsehoods.
You should drop back a week and read some research that you obviously skipped: “Study: Climate skeptics engage in more eco-friendly behavior than climate alarmists
Then, you should head out to the rural country and talk to some farmers, lumberjacks, orchardists, apiarists and husbandry focused organizations.
All those people who live away from urbs, work hard outside, depend upon nature for their living have long noticed that temperatures are not unusual. These are the people who conversed with their parents and grandparents and learned hearing about the 1930s through 1980s.
These people, with strong relations to the natural world, listened to thirty years of CAGW alarmism and notice the accompnaying thirty years of failed dooms.

Randy in Ridgecrest

Ivan, you are an idiot

That’s not very nice Randy…


“That’s not very nice Randy…”
Says he, following his insulting rant on here the other day.
What was it you called Donald Trump again?

Randy in Ridgecrest

Admonishment. Coming from what, a computer program? Ivan, I think you are a piece of code.


Yeah, you know, Ivan, when you make generalized statements like that, it is obvious that you are completely uninformed about your subject matter.
Why would I say that? Because I grew up in the country, in farmland in the Corn Belt. I know NO ONE in the countryside who has the attitude you describe. People in the country are a lot more self-sufficient than you.
I don’t know where you get your incorrect information. Obviously, you never spend any time in the country and you’ve never homesteaded or farmed. But that incorrect description of attitudes – well, that comes from people like you who live in cities where everything is concrete and steel and the only open green spaces have ‘Do Not Walk Here’ signs posted.
The only whining and bleating for help will come from you and people like you.


Sara….Ivonk is a liberal…..they don’t see people as individuals…no heart or soul involved

Wrong there Sara. I lived in a capital city for 17 years and pretty much hated it. Have been living in a homestead for the last 16 years so know what I am talking about. And don’t kid yourself that people like Trump have the interests of rural communities or environmental concerns at heart. We all know where he comes from. I watched the guy trying to use a spade on the WH lawn and he looked ridiculous.

old construction worker

ivankinsman : So you are 33 years old and now live in a homestead (or on a homestead?). Do you farm? Work outside 8 to12 hours a day? I think you should have a heart to heart talk with some old farmers about weather they have lived though.


Ivan, don’t change the subject. Trump has nothing to do with any of this YOU brought that up. No one else did. Bad idea.

“Sara May 12, 2018 at 2:55 pm
Yeah, you know, Ivan…”

Spot on, Sara!
17 years solid urbanite living. Now, lives in a homestead, whatever that means.
Instead, nokey frequently posts odd comments full of deceit, fabrication, baseless claims, sophistry, etc.; most displaying unimaginable levels of ignorance.
Now, nokey flings out a specious claim regarding America’s midterms. Demonstrating that nokey ignored your suggestion that it should review who voted for Trump.
Which is another clear indication that nokey is incapable of honesty and does not intend to view inconvenient facts. It’s so much easier to bleat nonsense.
Such people rarely function working with others outdoors, all day.
FYI nokey; http://www.wsj.com/graphics/elections/2016/where-they-won/
Urbs voted for HRC.
Rural people voted for Trump.
The vast majority of America’s rural counties voted for Trump, giving Trump the electoral college majority and the Presidency.
Making nokey’s specious claims, just more made-up fantasy nonsense.

Bill Murphy

Ivan, as a country boy who has worked and lived in the country and worked in agriculture and forestry for decades I can state unequivocally that you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. You are 180° out of phase with reality. As a hint, look up the election county maps for 2016 and notice where the red and blue counties are in the US. You strike me as the type who would call a steer a cow, even though morally, ethically and intellectually you resemble a steer. Some important parts are missing.

Well let’s see what happens in the mid-terms in November. I support Trump on his anti-immigration stance but that’s as far as it goes … all the rest is a sham.
Hillary Clinton was the worst candidate the Dems could have put forward. Let’s see some Dem candidates who do not buy into all the pc liberal BS, and who do not have the interests of the 1% at heart (e.g Koch Brothers) and then we will see.


“AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.”
No it doesn’t, look at the science, not the Guardian!
The deserts are greening according to NASA, but you know this as I have pointed it out to you before.
Sea level rise has simply plodded along as it has done for thousands of years, there is no acceleration!
The North American continent went 12 years without a major hurricane until 2017, how can that possibly be described as exacerbated extreme weather. And most wildfires are caused by human stupidity, not Gaia.
Stop reading the media Ivan, their purpose is to sell papers and they will use any ruse to do so, like scaring the pants off gullible people like you.

J Mac

Ivan – that comment was pathetically uninformed. As an old and unrepentant country boy, let me assure you there are no signs of man made global warming or impending climate catastrophe evident in my years of life’s experience.
As for your whingeing, profoundly wrong comments, they made me think of this song, an ‘anthem’ of mine, if you will. Listen and learn…..
Hank Williams Jr. – A Country Boy Can Survive

J Mac – I too live in the country and the signs are there. Our winters have much less snow, the transition from winter to spring is much faster, we have to do a lot more watering and composting in the summer. Look at the global picture and the signs are also evident – AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events. You think all the man-made carbon just disappears into thin air or is soaked up be the vegetation and planetary oceans? That’s an ‘urbanite’ sceptic theory which is pathetic it is so absurd.


Quote *AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.*
You are being totally dishonest there.
I don’t know why you come here and spout crap like that. Are you a narcissist?

Totally true and the evidence now backs it up. Not a narcissist at all – the facts are there in black and white. The only crap I come across is the cow manure I use in my vegetable raised beds.


Ivan it is not true at all and there is no evidence to back it up. Even the IPCC admit it.

IPCC do talk about the ‘exacerbation effect of AGW on extreme weather events. Show me the evjdence where


Ivan it is you that made the first claim and considering the site you are on it is up to you to show the evidence.
Good luck!

No YOU state something that is ‘fake and you prove it. You know it is fake and you don’t have the evidence. Next time don’t write something that is a blatant lie just to support your line of reasoning.


Ivan as I thought you are a narcissist. You come to this site as a AGW believer and are not prepared to back your claims up. You are full of piss and wind.

Same appellation and derogatory terms apply to you likewise. And this site – as far as I am aware – is open to all contributors who want to input on climate change so put up or shut up.


Ivan i see you are still not prepared to show any of your evidence but just carry on your narcissistic ways.
You are right that this site is open to everyone but it is obviously not really a site for AGW camp followers.

Oh you have decreed that have you? We can all make our own decisions on what we do/don’t do so why not f@## off.


Ivan i see from someone elses post that you have done the same thing before.
It is alright as I realize that you are having trouble finding the necessary evidence.
It is not much fun being a narcissist when things don’t go your way is it?

OK here it is in black and white. Now show me your evidence please:

And straight from the horse’s mouth. Again, show me your counter evidence please:

Still waiting … you seem to have gone quiet on this issue. Now why is that I wonder?


Quite simple. People have to sleep sometime. When I am on my computer I will get back to you.


Ivan your first link isn’t even worth reading.
You do realize that the Summary for Policymakers is as much a political document as a scientific one?
This is one quote from WGII/AR5
“Attribution of observed impacts in the WGII AR5 generally links responses of natural and human systems to observed climate change, regardless of its cause.”
Now that definitely sheds a different light on things.

… they refute this.

Ivan, you are either an absolute liar or woefully ignorant: “AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.”
Even the politicized UN IPCC, in its various reports admits that there are no trend in wildfires, flooding, desertification, hurricanes, tornadoes or any other significant climate variable. They note a mild upward trend in temperatures since 1950, with a concommitment minor increase in precipitation.
Whatever ‘A’ there has been in the minor, beneficial ‘GW’ since the end of the Little Ice Age has yet to be determined. CO2 theory does not explain pre-1950 multi-decadal temperature swings.
I don’t know where you live, but Northern Hemisphere snow levels are increasing. Why don’t you just relax and enjoy your benign rural climate?

The trend is increased intensication of such events when they do occur – this is accepted scientific fact now no matter how much the ‘sceptics choose to ignore it. You keep enjoying your rural idyll Dave but that is not really going to help your children and grandchildren. I prefer to publicise the AGW facts to ensure action is taken and the pressure kept up on governments to ensure mine enjoy theirs.

Ivan, you’re going to have to show us the published governmental data that shows “increased intensication (sic)” trends for all the climatic metrics, including for tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, droughts, etc. Minor warming (heatwaves!) and associated slight increases in precipitation (falling faster!) don’t count.
Wild speculation and misleading statements by Trenberth and his ilk are not “accepted scientific fact.” Quote the specific IPCC report. [The ones you cited earlier do not support your statements.] Use published data, not alarmist fear-mongering.

Your referenced Carbon Brief article on IPCC’s 2012 extreme weather report states: “With other types of extreme events [hot spells, mainly], changes in past trends and any human contribution are harder to spot. Take hurricanes for example – there’s no clear pattern suggesting how they’ve changed the world over. But scientists have identified certain parts of the ocean, like the North Atlantic, where the number of intense hurricanes has increased since the 1970s. [Associated with a warming AMO.] Drought trends also differ from region to region, with a global picture unclear.”
One extreme missing from this picture is flooding. At the moment scientists don’t have enough data to make conclusive statements about changes in the last few decades, or make predictions about the future.”
Your citation contradicts your alarmist statements.
And did you even read your referenced IPCC WGII report that speculates about future climate impacts and gives examples of recent disasters that are based on population and GDP growth, not a changed climate? Dr. Roger Pielke, Jr. has conclusively shown that “increased climate disasters” are entirely based on increased populations and GDP, not climate metrics.
Your second citation also contradicts your alarmist statements. Give up yet?

J Mac

Repetition of false dogma is not convincing.

“mikebartnz May 12, 2018 at 11:14 pm
Quote *AGW exacerbates wild fires, flooding, desertification and other extreme weather events.*
You are being totally dishonest there.
I don’t know why you come here and spout crap like that. Are you a narcissist?”

Excellent question, mikebartnz!
nokey has spouted these and similar falsehoods here, many times; and has been fully rebutted many times.

“ivankinsman May 13, 2018 at 8:49 am
And straight from the horse’s mouth. Again, show me your counter evidence please:

Again, nokey demonstrates an inability to read or understand the links nokey supplies.
From nokey’s link:

“9.5. Extreme Events and Weather Disasters
Major impacts of climate change on human health are likely to occur via changes in the magnitude and frequency of extreme events (see Table 3-10)”

“Likely” is fantasy, not reality.
And that “Table 3-10”

“Table 3-10: Examples of impacts resulting from projected changes in extreme climate events.
Projected Changes during the 21 st Century in Extreme Climate Phenomena and their Likelihood, representative Examples of Projected Impacts

Not proof of any sort.
More of the thoroughly busted climate models and baseless predictions.

“9.5.1. Floods
Floods are associated with particular dangers to human populations (Menne et al., 1999). Climate change may increase the risk of river and coastal flooding”

Again, no proof at all, just alarmist assumptions.
Notice that nokey never uses any reports that directly track “extreme” weather.

John Harmsworth

All those problems those poor folks had on Green Acres! Climate Change! Who knew?!
Sure makes the pigs smart though.


hmm curiously i find its the citytwits who believe the most in warmist ideology
rural folks who actually get out in the real weather without aircon/heating all day are pretty in touch and are aware that seasons vary hugely from yr to yr so does rainfall pests and what weeds appear. there arent many farmers who actually deeply believe in warming
the few who do seem to are also pretty damned hot on knowing all the shonky deals on offer for “remediation” of the non issue and getting handouts from gov depts.

If I was a farmer I would start reading up on AGW and giving it my individual support. Those in cities are pretty much uninterested in its impacts – and the exacerbated hurricane over Houston soon brought it home to them. Farmers of the next generation – not yours – are going to have to put mitigating effects in place. Let’s take a dairy barn as an example. The yield of milk cows drops when cows are too hot. Rising temperatures mean dairy farmers will have to cough up more on ventilation systems etc which hits their bottom line. Crops require a huge amount of water. Rising planetary temperatures will mean farmers have to be smarter with water utilisation. Kerp on believing it is a Chinese conspiracy my friend. And I wouldn’t rely on rich city billionaires types like the current arsehole in chief to bale you out.

If (big if) temperatures rise, farmers would get more rain. Longer growing seasons and more water for irrigation. What’s not to like?

Strange. These scientists seem to disagree with you and Roger Pilke Jr. – the one sceptic scientist who is always quoted by sceptics because he is the only one they can use to support their viewpiunt.

Ivan, are you on something? I ask because your sentences and wording are deteriorating.
Maybe its just your anxiety at having your pet AGW fantasies shot down?

“nokey May 13, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Strange. These scientists seem to disagree with you and Roger Pilke{sic} Jr. – the one sceptic scientist who is always quoted by sceptics because he is the only one they can use to support their viewpiunt{sic}.”

Wrong, as usual, on every claim.
A) Pielke is not a skeptic. Ask him, he will tell you.
Or you can read Roger Pielke, Jr’s own words in an article he posted here at WUWT!

“I believe climate change is real and that human emissions of greenhouse gases risk justifying action, including a carbon tax.”

Skeptics’ quote R. Pielke Jr., because Roger performs good science and adheres to the scientific method.

1) “Roger’s research focuses on science, innovation and politics. In 2011 he began to write and research on the governance of sports organizations, including FIFA and the NCAA. Roger holds degrees in mathematics, public policy and political science, all from the University of Colorado. In 2012 Roger was awarded an honorary doctorate from Linköping University in Sweden and was also awarded the Public Service Award of the Geological Society of America. Roger also received the Eduard Brückner Prize in Munich, Germany in 2006 for outstanding achievement in interdisciplinary climate research.”

are just a few of Pielke’s experience and education.
B) “One skeptic scientist”?
What an absurd statement!
There are the tens of thousands of scientists who signed the Oregon “Global Warming Petition Project;

“31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs”.

Or the NASA astronauts, physicists and engineers who signed a letter: “Former Astronauts & NASA Employees Letter on Global Warming”?
Or the multitude of professional atmospheric scientists and meteorologists, just starting off with Richard Lindzen, Joe Bastardi, Judith Curry, William Happer, Freeman Dyson, Roy Spencer, Fred Singer, Willie Soon, etc. etc.?
again, just more delusional bleating from nokey.

tom s

We had winter last to late April this year. And so did pretty much the entire eastern 2/3 of the nation. Then a few years back we had summer begin in March and a year after that, snow in May. The weather/climate fluctuate BIGLY….always has…always will. Go to your safe room now, it’ll be ok. (good grief you alarmists are a naive bunch).

Sceptics always fail to distinguish between weather and climate. Weather is a series of unique individual events and climate is a long-term narrative. In the south west of the US there is far less snow but more rainfall. So forget about unique weather events and focus on what the long-term trends that are occurring around the globe…

Uh, Ivan >> Long term, the climate has not changed. Minor warming from the Little Ice Age and associated slight precipitation increases is not climate change. Unless you can give specific examples, your assertions are just that – unsupported assertions.
I’ve been off doing real life for the past few days. I won’t deal with your intervening postings here. However, I’ll just say that you have avoided all of my direct questions. Continue on your current course and I’ll put you in my “Twit” file.

And what about the unprecedented speed of increase in CO2 ppm and what about the current high levels of CO2 ppm that have not been as high for 800,000 years. Is this par for the course? Is this normal? Believe that and you are definitely going into my twit file as living in Alice in Wonderland.

And what, specifically, does the CO2 level have to do with climate, Ivan?

Well Dave that really is something no-one seems to have given any thought to. But I have heard there us an outfit called the IPCC that is 97% certain there is a causal relationship. Perhaps you should check out their website – you might learn a thing or two…

And, specifically, what impact has CO2 had on our current climate, Ivan?