The EU Blows $683 million (£520m) on a carbon capture project – that captured nothing!

From the “models didn’t predict this”  and the “Climate Action” department:

An investigation found that Brussels blew the colossal sum of cash on a drive to build underground storage facilities for CO2 emissions – but no such facilities were ever constructed.

This week the architect of the scheme, a former Lib Dem MEP, admitted this was because officials bungled their predictions for the environmental costs facing businesses.

The revelations, uncovered by the website EUobserver, will heap further pressure on EU chiefs who are already facing increased scrutiny over their spending due to Brexit.

Britain’s departure from the bloc is set to blow a £9 billion a year hole in its budget, with a number of member states actively calling for Brussels’ largesse to be be reined in.

Eurosceptics in the UK have long complained about the cost and red tape related to European environmental regulations which they accuse of stifling entrepreneurial enterprise.

However, many academics and officials have raised concerns about Britain lowering standards once it leaves the EU and the detrimental impact this could have on the public health and the environment.

The reports concern a Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) project the EU set up in 2007, which was designed to help companies reduce their emissions and so save money on Brussels’ green taxes.

Under the scheme businesses could buy pollution permits, or allowances, from eurocrats the proceeds of which would then be spent by the EU on capturing and storing carbon emissions.

However the fund, called NER300, did not support a single such project after officials catastrophically miscalculated carbon emissions pricing in Europe, which they expected to go up but which actually dropped drastically just after the programme was announced.

Reflecting on the scheme he helped create, former Lib Dem MEP Chris Davies told EUobserver: “The expectation was that the carbon price would rise from thirty euros up to a hundred euros.

“The incentive to not to have to pay a hundred euros a tonne for every tonne of CO2 emitted, was very strong indeed. The assumption was industry would do it, without us requiring any other means. Industry would take all these risks.”

However, he said that when the carbon price crashed – it now stands at just seven euros – the scheme attracted virtually no participants and only ended up funding projects already in the renewable category.

Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/875213/European-Union-EU-wasted-green-project-carbon-capture-zero-results


More from the Global CCS Institute:

The failure of NER300

But it should all have been so different. Back in 2008, collaborative advocacy from industry and non-government organisations helped the European Parliament and Member States to secure an innovative funding mechanism for CCS. The NER300 scheme would sell allowances from the EU’s Emissions Trading System (ETS) to create a funding mechanism to support a suite of CCS demonstration projects, as requested by the European Council the year before. With carbon prices heading toward €30/tonne, it was hoped that up to €9 billion would be raised—providing the world’s largest fund for supporting innovative low–carbon technologies. Soon afterward, the European Energy Programme for Recovery (EEPR) selected six projects to receive fast-tracked assistance and a further €1.1 billion of public funding. The future looked bright.

In late December 2012, European Commissioner for Climate Action Connie Hedegaard finally announced the outcome of the first NER300 funding round—but could only award €1.2 billion to 23 innovative renewables projects across Europe. Not one CCS project was funded. What should have been the centrepiece of European CCS efforts had failed to deliver. It had taken EU institutions two years to finalise the programme, and a further two to scrutinise the bidding projects. This was far too long for a supposedly urgent process. But the roots of European difficulties on CCS reach far beyond the administration of the NER300 programme itself.

TWO FUNDING MECHANISMS, TWO FAILURES

Neither of the EC funding approaches has been able to cope with changed circumstances. But the blame must be shared beyond Brussels.

The EEPR funding provided by DG Energy has failed to secure a single project that has been able to move forward. The Vattenfall project at Jänschwalde pulled out due to public opposition and the failure of the German Government to pass an adequate CO2 storage law. Other projects have experienced technical delays or an absence of Member State support. Only Rotterdam’s ROAD project continues to sit in the starting blocks, but it is waiting for partners to emerge to share some of the funding gap. Its utility sponsors are unwilling to absorb on their own a financial hit anticipated to be in the region of €100 million. This is understandable from an individual company perspective, but mind-blowingly short-sighted from the energy sector as a whole. Other industrial players need to step up and provide support.

In respect of the NER300 funding process, it was primarily Member States that failed to deliver on the agreed milestones. They were asked to confirm the projects they would support, together with the level of co-funding they would contribute. Only the French Government confirmed co-funding for the proposed ArcelorMittal steel mill CCS project at Florange, and €275 million was assigned by the EC. Bizarrely, ArcelorMittal withdrew at the last minute, citing technical problems. The CCS project had become a political football, kicked out of the ground rather than toward the goal.

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November 9, 2017 3:57 am

So EU spent £542 million and got no CCS installations. At the current exchange rate, SaskPower spent the same amount, and got one. Who is the worse off?
From the Boundary Dam project worksheet:
The total cost of the project is currently $1.5 billion. The original cost was $1.3 billion. Of that original cost estimate: $800 million was for the CCS process, with the remaining $500 million for retrofit costs. SaskPower feels they can cut capital costs 20-30% on the next unit.
The Boundary Dam project received $240 million from the federal government. The provincial government also supported the project. Besides electricity, revenue will be generated from the sale of CO2, sulphuric acid, and fly ash.
Due to decreased capture rate and failure to deliver promised CO2 to Cenovus Energy, Saskpower had to pay C$12million in 2014 in penalties. More penalties are expected for 2015. Saskpower is confident that revenue from captured CO2 will be greater than the penalties. (That was as of September 30, 2016)

Now we have the results from the highly touted Saskatechewan CCS project.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/carbon-capture-critics-1.4388026

“Following SaskPower saying it is unlikely to recommend government pursue more carbon capture and storage projects because of the high cost, critics are saying pursuing carbon capture and storage was uneconomical from the start.
SaskPower ‘highly unlikely’ to recommend further carbon capture projects
“It’s not economic, and it was clear at the time it wasn’t economic,” said former SaskWind president James Glennie.
Glennie says SaskPower’s wholesale cost of power is about $60 per megawatt hour. The report pegs the cost of removing carbon dioxide through carbon capture at Boundary Dam Unit 3 at about the same price.
“It cost $140 per megawatt hour,” to produce electricity with carbon capture and storage technology at a coal-fired plant, he said.
“Basically, every single person in Saskatchewan paid $1,000 dollars for a project, which was known to be uneconomic, even when the decision was given to proceed,” said Glennie.
In the fall of 2014, the $1.5-billion Boundary Dam power station near Estevan became the first power station in the world to install carbon capture and storage technology on a commercial scale. SaskPower argued using carbon capture and storage allowed the Crown corporation to reduce emissions while still using coal as a fuel source.”

Note that Greens interpret this as reason to go all in on wind and solar, and use their typical faulty estimates of the cost of renewable intermittent energy.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Ron Clutz
November 9, 2017 4:53 am

thanks for the info.
Not surprisingly, it is better for Europe that they failed to deliver any CCS unit, as i said above.

I think you should propose your comment as an article of its own, as a counterpoint to this one.

Reply to  paqyfelyc
November 9, 2017 6:36 am

Thanks paq. On a related issue, namely the term “clean coal” power generation, Ross McKitrick has explained how it can be achieved at a fraction of the cost by installing scrubbers.

https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/ontario-coal-phase-out-all-pain-no-gain/

Earthling2
Reply to  Ron Clutz
November 9, 2017 7:51 am

Even after Saskatchewan (SaskPower) went all in on CCS and actually spent $1 Billion+ on sequestering 1 million tons CO2 annually, the Canadian federal Gov’t comes up with a $50/tonne carbon tax on top of all this anyway. At a cost of $140 Mw/h for a coal fired base load plant sequestering 90% of CO2 on a measly 110 Mw output. Money down the drain, and a new nat gas fired plant could have generated the same electricity for less cost for the same savings on actual CO2 over a 30 year lifespan. What a pity. They should just have a funeral for the money they buried there, as the old bald guy on Shark Tank would say..

So Saskatchewan actually put its money where it’s mouth was, and actually built the worlds first commercial large scale CO2 sequester plant. Why bother trying to sequester any CO2 when your economy is just going to get hammered by a decree from the federal Trudeau Gov’t on a $50/T national carbon tax anyway? No good deed goes unpunished.

The lesson is folks, don’t bother buying into CO2 sequestration for the sake of lowering CO2 emissions even if it technically works. A total waste of effort and money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Dam_Power_Station

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Earthling2
November 9, 2017 9:13 am

What we have here is a veritable pandemic of proctocraniosis.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Ron Clutz
November 9, 2017 11:42 am

The CCS project at SaskPower Boundary Dam was done to save jobs in the nearby coalfields. This, in turn was necessitated by Canadian federal regulations which would not allow the commissioning of a rebuilt coal fired boiler at that location unless it met CO2 emission requirements. With three other units scheduled for end of life replacement, this was the death knell for the coal industry in that area.
Without CO2 regulation, the production units at this 800 mW location could have been renewed at much lower cost and we could have continued to enjoy a nice mix of cheap coal fired and hydro power, with newer gas fired capacity coming on as cycling capacity.
Green stupidity costs billions.

Vanessa
November 9, 2017 4:00 am

And the EU have been wasting this amount and tons more over the 45 years of Britain’s membership. If all the predictions of our mini ice-age come true we will need all that money and more just to keep warm and keep the lights on. What a corrupt dysfunctional organisation it is. Thank God we are leaving.

mikewaite
Reply to  Vanessa
November 9, 2017 4:49 am

Unfortunately we will not be leaving, The almost unbelievable incompetence of May as the PM has made the overturning of the Brexit result by the incoming Corbyn government inevitable .
Indeed the incompetence of the Tory PM is so unbelievable that I am inclined to not believe it . I am beginning to wonder if this is not what she planned all along , never having been a supporter of Brexit . Would she actually destroy her own party to stop Brexit you ask? Well look to the US . The Republicans are determined to destroy their own House majority and the prospects of any future Republican presidential candidate in order to get rid of their own , successful, Presidential candidate .
We live in strange times, daily getting stranger. Is the increasing CO2 concentration having a hallucinatory effect on our leaders?

A C Osborn
Reply to  mikewaite
November 9, 2017 6:40 am

Absolutely spot on.
The whole charade from Cameron not honouring his statement that he would immediately implement Article 50, through his resignation, through the Election of May and then her deferral of starting the process has had one aim.
Delay, Delay and more delay, to give the lawers time to challenge in Court, the labour and lib dems the time to mount challenges in Parliament, the House of Lords to challenge as well and the EU and everybody else (especially the BBC) to continue the Referendum Fear Campaign.
She has been and still is a “remainer”.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  mikewaite
November 9, 2017 9:15 am

I believe it is the Jehovah’s Witnesses who consider politics the realm of the Devil and refuse to participate in any way. They may be onto something.

Pixie
Reply to  mikewaite
November 9, 2017 9:50 am

Politicians will do anything regardless of how disipcable to further their presonal agendas…. Trump is the result of people being tired of the fat cat party political scene…

gwan
Reply to  mikewaite
November 9, 2017 8:00 pm

Mike
I think you may be right ,How could politicians on both sides of the Atlantic become so dysfunctional and incompetent unless they have a hidden agenda.

Reply to  Vanessa
November 9, 2017 8:27 am

Vanessa, you have foot daggers in charge of the leaving. They seem to be trying to keep what they can of the association. Unnecessary. The continent is not in a good bargaining position. Chop free the lines at cost and then do business. There is nothing to save.

Trump’s withdrawal from Paris is a similar situation. US is too big to try to bully like they can 180 other countries. US can create a thriving market all by themselves. UK and Germany are the only countries that know how to do in Europe. They need you as the always have, not the other way around.

Cut ties in a day and leave them your phone number.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Gary Pearse.
November 9, 2017 9:09 am

Maybe the foot-draggers figure that the EU’s fiscal situation is so unsound, and countries in central Europe are so estranged from it, that in a year or two it’ll implode, leaving the EU in a weaker bargaining position re the UK.

Pixie
Reply to  Gary Pearse.
November 9, 2017 9:52 am

To your answer phone

Reply to  Vanessa
November 10, 2017 2:51 am

+ 1

Reply to  jdseanjd
November 10, 2017 4:08 am

I’m afraid this is starting to smell real.

Thearse May produced a suicide manifesto, stupid in the extreme, produced no doubt by the 1%s running things in the background. May is no more that a muppet frontpiece. The removal of Sir Michael Fallon as Secretary of State for Defence over a nothing offence 15 years ago, was ably assisted by fellow Cabinet Minister, Andrea Leadsom, also alleging an offence several years ago. You could not make this nonsense up.

Interestingly, Leadsom is an ardent Brexiteer, while long-time family friend she’s just stabbed in the back, Fallon, is a committed Bremainer. Confused? You should be. Leadsom is an ambitious politician who parades
her religious credentials, which always sets alarm bells ringing for me, & sees herself as the next Margaret Thatcher.

Disgustingly, the young lady who has foregone anonymity to accuse a senior Labour Party figure of rape is ignored by our presstitute Main Slime Stream Media, MSSM, while these nothing peccadilloes are trumpeted loud & wide.

The Conservative Party are deeply split over Brexit. The question is, are factions of it intent on crashing this govt to hand power to the idiot Communist, Corbyn, who will likely call for a new referendum?
The possibility exists.

It’s a filthy game, politics.

An irreverent view: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5045277/Carry-Commons.html

JD.

Darth Maul
November 9, 2017 4:07 am

I’m afraid this is complete uninformed rubbish. The money for the projects that didnt proceed was never ‘wasted’ – it remains with the Commission.

Bryan A
Reply to  Darth Maul
November 9, 2017 7:38 am

Remaining with the Commission sure sounds like a waste to me. Has zero economic effect

Reply to  Darth Maul
November 9, 2017 8:32 am

This is a comfort to you? You are a product of the propagandized education the neomarxbrothers instituted.

CCB
November 9, 2017 4:18 am

Meanwhile every day Radio 4 in the UK has some one spouting about how CO2 is a big ‘problem’ for the planet; when will this Gravy Train ever stop one wonders?

November 9, 2017 4:36 am

Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
“The EU Blows $683 million (£520m)” of *other-peoples’-money* on “save the planet” feel-good fantasies.

NEVER mind. No amount of wasted public money can trump good intentions and “Save The Planet” virtue. /sarc

David
November 9, 2017 4:42 am

Right – so we bury CO2…..

Then what..??

Go back in 100 years’ time and – ‘Oh – its all leaked out….’

nottoobrite
November 9, 2017 5:03 am

(plus minus ) a E.U. politician from southern germany, getting 30,000 euros a month is now getting 14,000 a month pension for attending Brussels for 9 hours in 5 years !

Tim Nicely-Thornogson
Reply to  nottoobrite
November 9, 2017 6:19 am

In our house, the phrase ” as rich as Croesus” has been replaced by “as rich as the Kinnocks”: the manner in which they have gained great wealth from the EU for doing nothing other than toeing the official party line is a disgrace. Well worth googling for the exact eye watering sums they’ve transferred into their bank accounts

Editor
November 9, 2017 5:11 am

As Griff pointed out, CCS only really works if the CO2 is put to work doing something useful…

OCTOBER 31, 2017
Petra Nova is one of two carbon capture and sequestration power plants in the world
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The Petra Nova facility, a coal-fired power plant located near Houston, Texas, is one of only two operating power plants with carbon capture and storage (CCS) in the world, and it is the only such facility in the United States. The 110 megawatt (MW) Boundary Dam plant in Saskatchewan, Canada, near the border with North Dakota, is the other electric utility facility using a CCS system.

[…]
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The carbon dioxide captured by Petra Nova’s system is then used in enhanced oil recovery at nearby oil fields. Enhanced oil recovery involves injecting water, chemicals, or gases (such as carbon dioxide) into oil reservoirs to increase the ability of oil to flow to a well.

[…]

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=33552

The captured CO2 from Petra Nova is pipelined to West Ranch oil field…

The CO2 captured from Petra Nova is used for EOR at the West Ranch Oil Field, which has increased oil production from 300 barrels per day when it began operations to about 4,000 barrels per day today.

Petra Nova was selected as POWER magazine’s plant of the year for 2017.

https://www.energy.gov/fe/articles/doe-supported-petra-nova-captures-more-1-million-tons-co2

3,700 bbl/day of increased oil production at $50/bbl is worth $67.5 million per year. They expect to ultimately bring production up to 15,000 bbl/day and recover about 60 million barrels of oil that would otherwise have been left in the ground.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/18/clean-coal-carbon-capture-and-enhanced-oil-recovery/

At $50/bbl, 60 million barrels is worth $3 billion. The entire cost of the project is estimated to be about $1 billion, (with the DOE (AKA taxpayers) chipping in $190 million). Better than 3:1 simple ROIC, not bad for a pilot project. NRG expects to be able to bring the cost down in the future.

Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 6:15 am

Thanks, David Middleton, for pointing out the entire TWO CCSs in the world. But then, the world is a huge CCS, with plants capturing carbon and turning it into food, wood, etc.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 6:35 am

If CO2 is required, fair enough. But N2 also is used in EOR, and i see no reason why taxpayers should be involved if the whole EOR scheme makes sense all by itself, as it seems.
My bet is that CCS is just the free rider in this business, that would had occured anyway (may be with N2 instead)

Reply to  paqyfelyc
November 9, 2017 7:24 am

Petra Nova only happened because NRG was willing to pay for the whole thing in exchange for a 50% interest in the oil field. The DOE subsidy was available for CCS and NRG had a large coal-fired power plant about 80 miles from West Ranch oil field. This project would not have happened without CO2 being available. It probably would have gone forward without the DOE money.

Resourceguy
Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 9:30 am

I don’t think meets the official Griff definition of doing something useful.

Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 9:31 am

Where innovation and solid engineering is required, such projects are successful only in the USA where things are done by for-profit private enterprise. In the Texas example, the project is a winner without giving the carbon dioxide capture aspect a thought.

When I think of sосiалisт bureaucrats, like MEP Mr Davies (the “architect” of the the NEO300), probably a lawyer with a phalanx of sociologist civil servants planning such a disaster, I ask myself, why is there so much confidence in a sосiалisт system? – a question that could be logically asked by an apolitical person with a smattering of history, human nature and a neuron or two buzzing in his brain.

A thought experiment: 1)sосiалisтs want to distribute wealth more ‘equitably’ – at least that seems like a caring thing to do. So they nationalize industries to control behavior and distribute to the electorate shareholders. Run by bureaucrats with little flare or stake in the wellbeing of the company, efficiency, timely capital spending, product improvement, innovation, etc has no priority because there is no competition and things eventually fall apart along with wealth generation and it ends up there is nothing to distribute.

How about letting free enterprise do this job, generating huge wealth, and meanwhile, government push for excellence in real non-political education. Take out the anticapitalist subject matter and instead teach that a citizen can and should become shareholders. If the government wants to ‘distribute’, give a tax break for money invested. Have only a small pizza and one beer a week to increase your investment capital and buy shares in ITT, Amazon, Walmart… Etc. teach how to do your income tax, how to budget, how to read a company balance sheet, etc, etc. and teach to invest at least 5% of your earnings, at least in an index or mutual fund or in small exploration companies in oil, gas, minerals for the more savvy types.. Now go to shareholder meetings and criticize performance, ask what they plan to do with a “problem” , vote in better officers… Which do you think is the better track?

RCS
Reply to  Gary Pearse.
November 9, 2017 1:43 pm

Gary, if you are american, you probably don’t understand what the Liberal Democrats are in the UK. They are they repository of a bunch of tossers who believe in progressiveness, liberalism and a large coating of greenwash who can’t bring themselves to vote for anyone remotely sensible. They enjoyed a surge as they were an altervative to established partoies, came into Government and then were trashed at the subsequent election.

A Liberal Democrat supporting CCS because it save the Planet is absolutely typical of LibDem lunacy. They are typical Greens who find anything that actually works an anathema.

Tar Peter
Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 9:35 am

Please, David Middleton, calculate the bottom line. What will be the result in term of CO2 emission if captured CO2 is used to produce even more fossil fuel?

Reply to  Tar Peter
November 9, 2017 10:16 am

The only bottom line that matters is denominated in $$$.

AndyG55
Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 11:59 am

And I doubt much of that CO2 is actually sequestered for any length of time.

Reply to  AndyG55
November 9, 2017 12:12 pm

CO2 that is produced with the oil is re-injected into the reservoir. Almost all of the injected CO2 stays in the ground. Now… The oil that’s produced is a different story.

john harmsworth
Reply to  David Middleton
November 9, 2017 12:09 pm

Those number s assume no further operating cost for the production of that oil. So it’s still fantasy math. Everytime the Greenies try to work out something they want, they fail the basic math test. Coincidence?

Reply to  john harmsworth
November 9, 2017 12:22 pm

If it was “fantasy math,” CO2 injection wouldn’t be used for enhanced oil recovery. Currently, about 300,000 bbl/d of US oil production is due to CO2 EOR…
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https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=17331

Hocus Locus
November 9, 2017 5:45 am

We need to study the potential impact of how impact studies would impact previous impact studies of impacted areas, in addition to studies of non-impacted areas and historical impact studies that were unrelated to the most recent impact study. in case there is an impact.

Increase funding by adding a zero for every level.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Hocus Locus
November 9, 2017 6:43 am

2012 Ig Nobel literature prize:
“The US Government General Accountability Office, for issuing a report about reports about reports that recommends the preparation of a report about the report about reports about reports.”
https://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/#ig2012

Hocus Locus
Reply to  paqyfelyc
November 9, 2017 10:05 am

Touché!
How come so many things that used to be funny just aren’t funny anymore?
Like the 1985 Gilliam movie, Brazil.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  paqyfelyc
November 10, 2017 2:06 am

indeed. I guess what is funny the first time you think about, isn’t anymore when it really happen, and pretty often. You know this wonderful scene in Chaplin’s Dictator, where he plays and dance with a globe (that eventually blows up). Used to be funny. Now just sad.

Bruce Cobb
November 9, 2017 5:48 am

Ah yes, CCS – an idea so monumentally stupid, it would be like taking perfectly good cars and crushing them so people would buy new ones.
Oh wait.

knr
November 9, 2017 5:50 am

‘Connie Hedegaard’ , say no more , a person who could not find their own rear end , with a location map , a anatomical web site and DVD on ‘how to find you own rear ‘ and one to one guidance. But who can sniff out a money making opportunity 1,000 miles away .

nottoobrite
Reply to  knr
November 9, 2017 6:22 am

knr
Love it
Thanks
nottoobrite

john harmsworth
Reply to  knr
November 9, 2017 12:11 pm

If she found her brain, she’d be close!

November 9, 2017 5:57 am

Now is there any doubt remaining that this whole thing is a neomarxbrothers enterprise? The Soviets were 1000 times more successful and productive using marksypoleconomics than EU’s attempted emulation under drunkard Junker and his round table of idjits and the collapsed. USSR didn’t have access to the spoils of reducing rich industries to ashes to pay for it either.

And the anti-Brexit UKers were agonizing on how they were going to do on their own,! A people who invented the industrial revolution, ruled the waves for 400 yrs and created a global commonwealth upon which the sun never set!! I’m developing an unhappy theory that genes have a shelf life of a dozen generations. Lenin seems to have been prescient (with a small adjustment) – USSRs cheerleaders in Europe proved to be rather “useless idjits”, which, of course amounts to the same thing.

Peta of Newark
November 9, 2017 6:08 am

Certainly all my ‘fans’ 😀 will be familiar with my assertion that most if not all the CO2 is coming out of (farmland) dirt.

Farmers, in some small way, actually know this – mostly subconsciously and not least because so much of their time is taken up struggling through Red Tape inflicted by (Brussels) bureaucrats.

What they do is to use Roundup to try minimise the loss of soil-organic-matter and its conversion to atmospheric CO2 Less ploughing – John Deere’s invention will go down as THE most destructive thing ever invented.
At least atom-bombs might crunch up rocks to create new dirt, hence life & greenery & growth – ploughs just destroy the stuff

In a perfect example of Turkeys Voting For Christmas, the bureaucrats are on the verge of banning Roundup.

Just when you thought it could not get crazier – it does.

William Astley
November 9, 2017 6:16 am

Here is another in your face example of ridiculous, absurd, EU waste.

Two moves a month of the entire EU parliament ever month. The ‘reason’ for the waste is the job ‘creation’ in France that the forced move creates.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  William Astley
November 9, 2017 7:13 am

The reason is a Powa’ issue, not creation of jobs. The decision is older than onset of unemployement in Europe and goes back to founding treaty (which indeed say that Strasbourg, not Bruxelles, is THE location of the European Parliament, while Bruxelles is where the Commission and its bureaucracy — executive branch– are, and in Luxembourg the judiciary branch ).
But members have rather be in Bruxelles, close to the Commission (and, i suspect, far from France, its absolutist rulers and unruly mob who both want it rule over Parliament), and used a loophole in the treaty to be there most of the time while France was weak enough to allow that (just imagine Napoleon dealing with MP refusing to be in Strasbourg ALL the time…) , so things ended up in this stupid and costly arrangement.
IMHO the whole EU political system is just a mockery of democracy, that doesn’t even compare favorably to China’s system, and should gotten rid of.

Nigel S
November 9, 2017 6:17 am

The money wasn’t all wasted. Chris Davies (ex) MEP championed carbon capture and storage (CCS) while spending 15 years on the European Parliament’s environment committee, working closely with Big Energy interests to do so. Now he has set up his own environmental lobby consultancy and is working with FleishmanHillard, one of Brussels’ biggest lobby firms.

https://corporateeurope.org/revolving-doors/2015/11/brussels-big-energy-and-revolving-doors-hothouse-climate-change#Davies

Louis Hooffstetter
November 9, 2017 6:23 am

“The money wasn’t all wasted.”

Sounds to me like it was stolen.

Nigel S
Reply to  Louis Hooffstetter
November 9, 2017 8:14 am

“You might very well think that; I couldn’t possibly comment”

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Nigel S
November 9, 2017 9:40 am

In that regard:

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Nigel S
November 10, 2017 2:09 am

I just watched the whole show (BBC’s house of cards). Very good, and makes the US adaptation even better

Resourceguy
November 9, 2017 6:26 am

It’s the great EU indulgence money pit. Throw it in and feel better and receive you due-pass token.

michael hart
November 9, 2017 6:33 am

“…a carbon capture project – that captured nothing!

It certainly captured the imagination of the agents of the green tw@ts in Brussels, and no small amount of dosh from the coffers of European Exchequers.

More disturbing is that the former Lib Dem MEP Chris Davies apparently thought industry would simply suck up the costs imposed by carbon-taxation, rather than migrate to China. Industry has been leaving European shores for a long time because of many factors, not least ratcheting regulatory costs. Does he really think that extra economic punishments will not work in the same way?

Bernie
November 9, 2017 6:34 am

So…… the viability of the project depended on carbon going from 30 euros to 100 euros? In a couple of years? I guess it takes a Eurocrat to have that much business acumen.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Bernie
November 9, 2017 12:17 pm

They don’t have to consider the possibility of being wrong when it’s other people’s money and there’s no accountability.

Resourceguy
November 9, 2017 6:38 am

This is more clinical proof that global warming causes mental health problems and impaired judgement…… in public policy.

RCS
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 9, 2017 1:47 pm

No, global warming doesn’t cause mental health problems. Rabid belief in AGW is a sign of psychosis

Paul Johnson
November 9, 2017 7:04 am

Even sadder is the underlying theme of the article, that the EU wasted hundreds of millions on renewable projects only because it didn’t have the expected billions to waste on carbon capture.

November 9, 2017 7:24 am

Has anyone considering CCS taken the time to calculate the volume of the space needed to store the CO2 from either a coal or NG power PLANT?
The coal plant near me burns two mile long trains of coal a week. HS Science shows that if the CO2 from the plant was solidified it would take double that number of trains to haul the solidified CO2 away. If stored as a gas it would take 8 to 10 times the number of trains of Liquid CO2 containers. And that is each and every week the plant is burning coal or NG.
CCS is physically impossible to be able to store the CO2 from fossil power plants. They are worried about fracking causing earth quakes, why not storing CO2 under pressure under ground?

paqyfelyc
Reply to  usurbrain
November 9, 2017 7:51 am

Obviously, the volume underground from where natural gas and oil come, qualify as being large enough to store as much CO2 (if such “storage” made sense, of course…).

Pixie
Reply to  usurbrain
November 9, 2017 10:10 am

CO2 is lquified and is then pumped into the ground as a supercritcal liquid.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Pixie
November 9, 2017 11:37 am

And it will well back out again, rather sooner than later.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Pixie
November 10, 2017 2:10 am

no more than natural gas or oil, which didn’t come up for a reason.

William Astley
November 9, 2017 7:50 am

Carbon capture projects are just one of many examples of EU boondoogles.

Big surprise another layer of government results in comical waste and corruption in addition to the normal waste and corruption for every EU member state. The EU was designed to fail. See boondoogles.

Every year the EU gets borrowed money from member states (every EU country except for Germany is running a yearly deficit) which it forces to be spent on boondoogles.

Carbon capture projects are just one of many examples of EU boondoogles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boondoggle

A boondoggle is a project that is considered a waste of both time and money, yet is often continued due to extraneous policy or political motivations.

In 1935 a New York Times article reported that more than $3 million had been spent on recreational activities for the jobless as part of the New Deal. Among these activities were crafts classes, where the production of “boon doggles,” described in the article as various utilitarian “gadgets” made with cloth or leather, were taught.[6] The phrase became popular due to its use by the flamboyant criminal laywer Lloyd Paul Stryker.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1973776/staggering-scale-of-brussels-waste-revealed-as-audit-exposes-millions-spent-on-ineligible-non-existent-and-plain-batty-projects/

Bungling Eurocrats stand accused of mishandling their whopping €142.6 billion budget so badly that the EU’s liabilities now exceed its assets by a huge €72.4 billion.

In a damning 320-page report, the Court of Auditors blasted various examples of EU waste and mismanagement.
Daft spending projects included an un-receipted €874,309 “loan” to Mozambique and a €16,500 donation to a fake youth club in Azerbaijan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11985763/Fraud-allegations-and-waste-as-EU-hands-out-money-faster-than-states-can-spend-it.html

Funding given to landowners was affected by a 3.6 per cent error rate, with the most common cause being farmers overstating the amount of land or number of animals they had.

They included Greek farmers who declared rocky shrubland as pasture, and Spanish farmers who declared a motocross track as arable.

It highlighted major waste in EU funding for “ghost” airports. An investigation found that half the projects did not need investment while a third were not profitable and faced closure without constant injections of public money.

In another case, an investigation found that €73,000 of €132,000 of reimbursed travel costs for a research project were wrongly paid after the claimants submitted claims for irrelevant trips and used an incorrect currency exchange rate.

A €764,000 green energy project had a 90 per cent error rate in its accounts.
In Greece, an EU-funded sewerage network project has remained unused nearly a decade after it was launched after the local government failed to connect it to private homes.

There was also evidence of waste in Europeaid, the EU’s foreign aid budget. It included €6.5 million given to a Caribbean bank to finance sugar planting in Belize, of which just a fraction was used.

Caligula Jones
November 9, 2017 8:48 am

For a group (i.e., the left, or progressives, or “green”, whatever the nomenclature) that rails against greedy capitalism so much, they don’t actual know how greedy capitalists work, do they?

Hint: if it actually works, smart greedy capitalists would be in on the ground floor. With their own money.

stock
November 9, 2017 9:38 am

If the problem was really CO2, they would be talking about planting 500,000,000 trees

put that issue to rest

AndyG55
Reply to  stock
November 10, 2017 2:16 am

Mother nature will plant that many trees, all by herself. !

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