This is the way the climate scare ends; not with a bang, but a whimper

Guest essay by Ian Aitken

What does the future hold for the climate change debate? Will there ever come a day when we see the headlines across the globe, ‘It’s Official – There Is No Climate Change Crisis’? Hardly – for unless we find some way to leap ahead in the currently highly immature science of climate change and manage finally to pin down the exact direct and indirect (via feedbacks) warming effect of adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere and the exact effects of natural changes in our climate the outcomes will remain uncertain. The eminent scientist Stephen Koonin has stated that, ‘Today’s best estimate of the sensitivity [of the atmosphere to the addition of carbon dioxide]… is no different, and no more certain, than it was 30 years ago. And this is despite an heroic research effort costing billions of dollars.’ Basically, unless the ‘Uncertainty Monster’ is slain (and there is absolutely no reason to believe that will happen in the foreseeable future) neither the believers nor the skeptics can ‘prove’ their case. In which case we seem to be in a ‘wait and see’ position. But for how long? Even if the current global warming Slowdown persisted for decades it would still be possible that dramatic and dangerous warming was just about to resume. Indeed in 2015 The UK’s Royal Society expressed the view that it would take 50 years of divergence between the observations and the climate models before they would be convinced that the theory of anthropogenic climate change was flawed. We cannot be absolutely sure that there will be no climate change crisis – only that it is becoming increasingly unlikely. So the politically-correct scientific shibboleths of the ‘climate change crisis’ idea may well persist for a great many decades.

Having persuaded the world to spend trillions of dollars on fighting man-made climate change is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) really going to admit that the causes of climate change are actually far more complex than they originally thought and so they may have been fundamentally mistaken about both the attribution and quantification of warming? And what about the UK’s Royal Society and the American National Academy of Sciences, those most renowned of scientific institutions; are they going to admit that they may have put political correctness and scientific funding concerns before scientific objectivity? What about all those climate scientists who have been so careful to tacitly collude with the IPCC and not rock the climate change crisis boat; are they going to admit that their judgments may have been skewed by considerations of the self-interest of retaining their jobs, careers, incomes and pensions? And the many climate research units around the world; are they going to say, ‘Well we must go where the science takes us – if the science says that there actually isn’t a problem then we’ll just have to shut up shop.’ What about all of the senior politicians in the western world who have foisted an avalanche of regulations, taxes and controls on their electorates to ‘fight climate change’; are they going stand up and admit that their scientific illiteracy led them to be completely fooled? Are all those prestigious environmental organizations, such as the WWF, Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth going to admit they had only ‘signed up’ to the global warming scare because it happened to suit their agendas, attracted donations and increased their influence? Is the BBC, that globally respected bastion of impartiality and objectivity, going to admit to the people of Britain that it abused its position of trust by simply taking on face value the selective and spun science fed to them and taking an irresponsible and unjustifiably partisan editorial approach to the climate change debate? What about all those newspaper journalists who for years have been repeating NASA and IPCC Press Releases as ‘objective facts’, neither subjecting them to critical analysis nor asking any awkward questions? What about all those celebrities who have lined up to pledge their support for fighting climate change by flying less frequently in their private jets to reduce their ‘carbon footprint’? What about all those school teachers who (willingly or unwillingly) taught their pupils about the climate change crisis as though it was an undisputed fact? No, it just isn’t going to happen – far too many reputations and far too much money is at stake.

There is also the strange culture in science explained by the scientific historian Thomas Kuhn as, ‘Once it has achieved the status of a paradigm, a scientific theory is declared invalid only if an alternative candidate is available to take its place’. Note that he is not suggesting that this is right; instead he is saying that history shows it to be case. A credible alternative theory today is the ‘cosmic ray flux theory’; but for every dollar in research funding that goes into that theory and for every mention in the media of that theory there must be ten thousand that go into the IPCC theory. It just cannot compete. And anyway it is too late – the IPCC theory grabbed the high ground decades ago and has never surrendered it. Furthermore skeptical scientists are not suggesting that there is any single, simple theory to supplant the IPCC’s anthropogenic climate change theory, the ‘Climate Change Orthodoxy’. Instead they offer a theory that climate change probably derives predominantly from natural ocean-atmosphere oscillations and/or by natural solar variations (irradiation and cosmic ray flux) and/or by natural cloud cover variations and/or the Milankovitch Effect, i.e. it is probably predominantly just natural. On the one hand you have something that is superficially simple, certain and easy for the public and journalists and politicians to understand (‘our carbon dioxide emissions are definitely the cause of dangerous climate change and reducing them will definitely solve the problem’) and on the other hand something that is complex, nuanced, uncertain and requires a considerable knowledge of science to understand (‘various complex and interlinked phenomena in nature, none of which is well understood, are probably the predominant cause of climate change that in some ways will probably be beneficial but in others may not’). It is a very easy to understand, very alarming problem with a very ‘simple’ solution (‘decarbonize globally’) vs. a very hard to understand, very unthreatening problem with no man-made solution (since we are at the mercy of nature). Which is more likely to get the media headlines, sell newspapers and grab the public imagination? And simply admitting that our knowledge of climate change science is too slight to know ‘what causes climate change’ is never likely to supplant the dominant paradigm of the Climate Change Orthodoxy. Perhaps the Climate Change Orthodoxy theory lives on for little better reason than the failure of a simple, certain, compelling alternative theory to supplant it – and if the skeptical scientists are right then no such theory is ever likely to be found. Add to the huge vested interests of the media the huge vested interests of the scientists, the scientific authorities and the army of people who profit hugely from subsidized renewables and the dominant paradigm appears secure for the indefinite future.

Instead we may find the years rolling by with rising man-made greenhouse gas emissions yet modest, nonthreatening, global warming (and perhaps some temporary global cooling). In the fullness of time the inability of the climate change models to predict climate states generally, and atmospheric temperatures specifically, will become increasingly inescapable, the funding for climate change science research will quietly peter out (at first research into physical climate science, then later research into climate change mitigation, then finally research into climate change adaptation), the climate change researchers will quietly move on to other things (perhaps researching natural climate variability – or global cooling), the journalists and politicians will quietly stop talking about the climate change crisis – and the whole issue will quietly fade from the public consciousness. Basically, the man-made climate change crisis idea will probably simply follow a trajectory, not dissimilar to that of many other ‘man-made global crises’ (such as the DDT or BSE ‘crises’), of

1) Scientists misreading the evidence, confusing correlation, cause and effect – and then, long before the science is sufficiently mature to warrant it, leaping to alarmist conclusions

2) Scientists then exaggerating the risks (and suppressing uncertainties and contradictory evidence) in order to attract government funding to investigate the potential scare properly

3) Journalists hyping the potential scare in order to drum up public alarm (and sell newspapers)

4) The public, unable to understand the science, over-reacting and clamoring for political action

5) Politicians, unable to understand the science, over-reacting and responding to public alarm by rushing in ill-considered policies to mitigate the perceived risks

6) Politicians increasing scientific funding in order to find more evidence in support of the scare in order to confirm the rightness of their policies

7) Scientists duly supplying more evidence in order to attract further government funding (this evidence being used by journalists to drum up even more public alarm)

8) A rising awareness by scientists that the problem is actually much more complex (and the causes much more ambiguous and uncertain) than they originally surmised – and, anyway, far less risky

9) A rising awareness by the public and politicians that the risks have been exaggerated and the scare is not materializing – and the policies have done, and are doing, more harm than good

10) Scientists, journalists and politicians quietly retreating from association with the scare

11) The scare fading from the public consciousness

Today we are at about point (8). The trouble is that at this point the investment in the ‘cause’ has been so vast (both in terms of money and reputation/ego) that calling a halt has become virtually impossible (although Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris climate accord would be a good start). After (11), in the 2030s or 2040s perhaps, we may start to see many PhD theses being written by psychology graduates about the great global delusion of the catastrophic climate change scare of the early 21st century and the extraordinary story of how a small group of highly politicized scientists and computer modelers brought science into public disrepute as never before by corrupting the scientific process in order to achieve their hubristic and utopian goals.

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J Mac
May 28, 2017 9:52 pm

Another whimper…. Seth Borenstein.
Scientists explain what will happen if Donald Trump pulls out of Paris climate change agreement
“The Earth will get dangerously warm even sooner if the U.S pulls out of pledge to cut carbon dioxide pollution.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientists-donald-trump-pull-out-paris-climate-change-agreement-a7759411.html

May 28, 2017 9:52 pm

UK Royal Society in essence stated they want funding for 50 years even though the climate models are already known to predict nothing. If in a human lifetime they are not relevant, they are not relevant now.

Pat Lane
May 28, 2017 10:12 pm

Remember Y2K? I was a Y2K project manager for an Australian cola mine/ power station. The Earth di not come to an end. The fact that the problems had been solved long before 1995 didn’t influence the alarmists one bit.
The fact that nothing happened was then credited to all the expensive effort.
Lies. All lies.

michel
May 28, 2017 11:40 pm

Ian, you might be applying the wrong model. It has strong elements in common with apocalyptic religious episodes. Much of the language and conceptuallization is the same. We have the same emphasis on belief, and on action as testimony to belief.
One of these episodes what observed most closely by Festinger and his associates, and documented in ‘When Prophecy Fails’.
The striking difference from the science model scares is that the leadership backs off as they become nervous about the consequences of following a line which may not come true in the real world. Prudence leads them to try to dilute the predictions or even drop them, because they see what is coming.
But at the same time as the leadership backs off, the lay followers become more fanatical. Then, when discomfirmations inevitably happen, belief strengthens rather than weakens. Fanatical hostility to the unbelievers or apostates rises. The apocalypse fails to arrive, the believers stare at each other, but their faith increases.
The thing only dies out after a real crisis of being on the part of the lay activist adherents.
If this is the model we are following, every scientific study which disconfirms the likelihood of the climate apocalypse will lead to increased and more fanatical belief and greater anger and hostility towards the ‘denialists’. And more demands for action which has little or nothing to do with the supposed problem, but which will act as testimony of faith. For instance, turning off standby appliances. Or installing wind turbines!
It will get worse before it gets better, and it will get worse in proportion to the amount of refuting evidence.

richardscourtney
May 28, 2017 11:51 pm

Ian Aitken:
In your above essay you write

What does the future hold for the climate change debate? Will there ever come a day when we see the headlines across the globe, ‘It’s Official – There Is No Climate Change Crisis’? Hardly – for unless we find some way to leap ahead in the currently highly immature science of climate change and manage finally to pin down the exact direct and indirect (via feedbacks) warming effect of adding greenhouse gases to our atmosphere and the exact effects of natural changes in our climate the outcomes will remain uncertain.

I agree.
And I also agree with your list of 11 points.
Indeed, soon after 2009 IPCC Conference in Copenhagen I made the same points in many places including WUWT where I wrote about the anthropogenic (i.e. man-made) global warming (AGW) scare saying

The AGW-scare was killed at the failed 2009 IPCC Conference in Copenhagen. The scare will continue to move as though alive in similar manner to a beheaded chicken running around a farmyard. It continues to provide the movements of life but it is already dead. And its deathly movements provide an especial problem.
Nobody will declare the AGW-scare dead: it will slowly fade away. This is similar to the ‘acid rain’ scare of the 1980s. Few remember that scare unless reminded of it but its effects still have effects; e.g. the Large Combustion Plant Directive (LCPD) exists. Importantly, the bureaucracy which the EU established to operate the LCPD still exists. And those bureaucrats justify their jobs by imposing ever more stringent, always more pointless, and extremely expensive emission limits which are causing enforced closure of UK power stations.
Bureaucracies are difficult to eradicate and impossible to nullify.
As the AGW-scare fades away those in ‘prime positions’ will attempt to establish rules and bureaucracies to impose those rules which provide immortality to their objectives. Guarding against those attempts now needs to be a serious activity.

The 11 itemised points in your essay agree with that view which the passing years since December 2009 have given me no reason to amend.
Richard

sabretruthtiger
May 29, 2017 1:32 am

Well sorry actually the skeptics have ‘proved their case’.
The Satellite data shows that climate sensitivity is a third of what the models predict.
There is no Tropospheric hot spot and contrary to what a previous guest blogger stated, it DOES prove the models wrong as the mechanism upon which the hot spot is predicated underpins the whole Catastrophic, positive feedback-based Anthropogenic Global Warming hypothesis.
Proxy evidence of CO2 shows a tenuous link where CO2 trails Temperature and sometimes diverges. It is demonstrably not a primary driver.
There is the logarithmic ‘saturation’ nature of CO2 leading to less and less forcing with each doubling.
ERBE satellite showed increased OLR with increased surface warming.
Then there’s the nonsense about tipping points and dangerous rises of 2 degrees or so with zero evidence to back up such statements.
The skeptics don’t deny that CO2 causes SOME warming, what they do claim is that the fear-mongering based on predicted net-positive amplification feedbacks is wrong and their case has been proved by the evidence.

DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 2:40 am

First sentence: a legitimate question.
Second sentence: clearly – very clearly – no.
Third sentence: you couldn’t pack more lies into this opening statement than by adding that the climate crisis will be avoided thanks to the armies of vampires riding pink unicorns who will rescue us.
The truth is many of your questions and suggestions are actually valid, but they are already answered. There IS NO competing theory, because the only explanation for the data and the changes we observe is anthropogenic by use of carbon-based greenhouse gases. All your other ideas have full access to the public forum, and they have all been debunked. That’s why no one discusses then anymore. Yes, ideas get shut out, when they have been proven to be faulty. Like your cosmic ray flux theory; come on dude, do your research! That is one of the more testable alternative hypotheses out there, and none of its basic claims match the data that has been observed for decades.

Richard M
Reply to  DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 7:46 am

Nonsense. All of the warming can be explained by ocean cycles which has never been debunked.

richardscourtney
Reply to  DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 10:03 am

DrStrangepork:
You are misinformed. There are several explanations for the putative global warming since the start of the industrial revolution which have more supporting evidence than enhanced radiative forcing from increased atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations.
All the putative global warming since the start of the industrial revolution could be an effect of a a slight redistribution of ocean surface temperatures.
And observed changes to cloud cover have had much greater effect on radiative forcing than changes to greenhouse gas concentrations.
And… etc,
Richard

DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 2:51 am

The truth is many of your questions and suggestions are actually valid, but they are already answered. There IS NO competing theory, because the only explanation for the data and the changes we observe is anthropogenic by use of carbon-based greenhouse gases. All your other ideas have full access to the public forum, and they have all been debunked. That’s why no one discusses then anymore. Yes, ideas get shut out, when they have been proven to be faulty. Like your cosmic ray flux theory; come on dude, do your research! That is one of the more testable alternative hypotheses out there, and none of its basic claims match the data that has been observed for decades.
All you deniers have to do to make your case legit is present evidence of any other explanation that better explains the observations than the accepted theory. Even if AGW is wrong – which it isn’t – you have nothing to better explain the data. And through history, those who chose to cling to conspiracy theories over researched science have almost never turned out to be right.

Bill Toland
Reply to  DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 7:07 am

Dr Strangepork, you have completely misunderstood this thread. We are talking about cagw, not agw. Also, labelling people who disagree with you as deniers reveals that you have no understanding what sceptics are actually saying.

Roger Knights
Reply to  DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 8:53 am

One possibility is already in “the literature” A Canadian scientist, Dr. Lui (sp?) argued that it is the removal from the atmosphere of Freon, etc. that has cause the recent warming. There are probably other peer-reviewed suggestions. For instance, attn was drawn here a few months ago to a study linking decreased windiness over the past 40 years to increased temperature.

TA
Reply to  DrStrangepork
May 29, 2017 3:20 pm

“There IS NO competing theory, because the only explanation for the data and the changes we observe is anthropogenic by use of carbon-based greenhouse gases.”
What “changes we observe” are you talking about?

Nigel S
May 29, 2017 4:08 am

‘After (11), in the 2030s or 2040s perhaps, we may start to see many PhD theses being written by psychology graduates about the great global delusion of the catastrophic climate change …’. Let’s hope they don’t look it up on Wiki where they will find that it never existed.

May 29, 2017 6:52 am

What can I say? T. S. Eliot was ahead of his time!

Bill
May 29, 2017 7:07 am

Although climate science is very clear, we don’t need science to see that the earth is warming due to increasing the concentration of green house gasses. We can simply observe climate change by measuring sea level rise, reduced polar ice caps, and warmer temperatures. ExxonMobil has already admitted that they knew carbon emissions will lead to global warming. They’ve known since the 70s,but buried the evidence for profit. They lied, and pay off shills, like you, for profit. It’s really pathetic.

TA
Reply to  Bill
May 29, 2017 3:22 pm

Your opinions are noted, Bill.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Bill
May 30, 2017 5:34 am

The other Bill, do you believe what you have just written or were you trying to make a joke?

DeLoss McKnight
May 29, 2017 7:09 am

This was an interesting editorial and the comments have been great to read. I do think Mr. Aitken is a bit optimistic about the end of the climate scare. In the US, the liberal side of the bench has totally bought into the scare. Ending it will not be easy. In addition, a new documentary of Al Gore is coming out in July, with the catchy title, “An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power.” [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6322922/] Speaking truth to power gives one a heady rush of moral superiority, intensified with a frisson of fear for challenging said power. The trailer implies that it will explicitly unite the fight against climate change with the fight against Trump. This is powerful propaganda. In the US, this will likely push us back to stage 3.

May 29, 2017 7:20 am

Something else struck my eye. The Royal Society is planning a meeting on “hyperhtermals” or sudden warming events they do not understand. Among their hyperthermals are both today’s mild global warming and the Permo-Triassic extinction event.Now what kind of moron calling himself a climate scientist thinks there is a connection between today and the Permian? I submitted a comment which I repeat below:
******************************************************************************************************************
**So now five professors of the Royal Society want to include the anthropogenic warming of our climate as one of the hyperthermals – natural events where global temperature rapidly increased without any warning. That of course is absurd. Present day warming cannot possibly have anything in common with the Permo-Triassic extinction event, the most intense hypothermal. It is still shrouded in mystery because even its timing is not clear. It might have lasted 15 million years as some experts believe but then again it might have lasted only 200 thousand years as another group of experts think. It was the greatest extinction event in 500 million years for sure and to classify today’s hardly noticeable warming as in the same class with the Permian event would be a coup for global warming advocates. I must classify this claim as dirty politics because lately many predictions of the global warming advocates have failed to come true. *******************************************************************************************************

Ike Kiefer
May 29, 2017 7:26 am

‪#globalwarming hysteria may very well end in a bang – with an asteroid impact or super volcano eruption that induces a mini ice age. ‬

May 29, 2017 7:46 am

Basically, unless the ‘Uncertainty Monster’ is slain (and there is absolutely no reason to believe that will happen in the foreseeable future) neither the believers nor the skeptics can ‘prove’ their case.
‘Once it has achieved the status of a paradigm, a scientific theory is declared invalid only if an alternative candidate is available to take its place”
Furthermore skeptical scientists are not suggesting that there is any single, simple theory to supplant the IPCC’s anthropogenic climate change theory, the ‘Climate Change Orthodoxy’.

All these arguments, knowingly or (rather) not, point to the fact, that the public discussion is on global warming, rather than its foundation, the greenhouse theory. If there is a greenhouse effect, if it is caused by greenhouse gases, then increasing greenhouse gases will likely warm the planet. Very simple. And we are not going to solve this science by counting polar bears!
The largely untackled greenhouse theory however is build on nothing else but the claim Earth was a perfect black body when it comes to emissivity, with E = 1. And the only thing reducing E, to attain the observed temperature, were greenhouse gases.
It will take nothing more than challenging the E = 1 theory, and replace it with accurate data, to crush the foundation of global warming. As I can show, (ocean) water has an emissivty of only 0.84 (which drops emissions by about 60W/m2). Clouds furthermore have a massive warming effect in the 100W/m2 range.
Adding up both factors, Earths emissivty is dropped by roughly 160W/m2, or to about 0.58 – far less than E = 1. And it does not take a single GHG for that, rather GHGs are one big illusion.

Reply to  Erich
May 30, 2017 11:10 am

Erich May 29, 2017 at 7:46 am
The largely untackled greenhouse theory however is build on nothing else but the claim Earth was a perfect black body when it comes to emissivity, with E = 1. And the only thing reducing E, to attain the observed temperature, were greenhouse gases.
It will take nothing more than challenging the E = 1 theory, and replace it with accurate data, to crush the foundation of global warming. As I can show, (ocean) water has an emissivty of only 0.84 (which drops emissions by about 60W/m2).

Good luck with that, the actual value is 0.98-0.99.

Reply to  Phil.
May 31, 2017 12:56 am

To be more accurate, it is 0.986, which is true for vertical emissivity. In a 3 dimensional world it is a way more complicated, and indeed it is only 0.84 for hemispheric emissivty. But it is great to see how you do not reflect on your wikipedia quotations.. 😉

Reply to  Phil.
May 31, 2017 8:58 am

Erich May 31, 2017 at 12:56 am
To be more accurate, it is 0.986, which is true for vertical emissivity.

Unwarranted precision there, too many variables unaccounted for.
In a 3 dimensional world it is a way more complicated, and indeed it is only 0.84 for hemispheric emissivty. But it is great to see how you do not reflect on your wikipedia quotations.. 😉
Total hemispheric emissivity is much higher that that, there are indeed difficulties in making the measurements at large angles due to wave effects (e.g. reflection and reabsorption).
Absent roughness effects isn’t the ocean surface a Lambertian radiator anyway?
Not sure what wikipedia quotations you are referring to, is that your source for your number?

Reply to  Erich
May 31, 2017 10:30 am

Phil
These measurements resemble a Fresnel equation with n2 = 1.27. The rest is simple mathematics.
Lamberts cosine law does not apply here, also it can not be brought in line with the Fresnel equation, or the measuremts. Lambertian radiators are diffuse emittors with limited surface size. A reasonable example might be a TV screen. The amount of light received will then correspond to the viewing angle from vertikal. 1 at cos 0, 0.707 at cos 45, or 0 at cos 0, and so on.
Water however is exactly the opposite. That is not diffuse, but most of all, an allmost endless surface. So at an angle 45° reflectivity / absorptivity / emissivity are essentially the same as at 0° from vertikal.
I have done the calculations here..
http://www.climate-debate.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=1342&getfile=20250

Reply to  Erich
May 31, 2017 10:32 am

Correction: 0 at cos 90

Reply to  Erich
May 31, 2017 7:22 pm

Erich May 31, 2017 at 10:30 am
Phil
These measurements resemble a Fresnel equation with n2 = 1.27. The rest is simple mathematics.
Lamberts cosine law does not apply here, also it can not be brought in line with the Fresnel equation, or the measuremts. Lambertian radiators are diffuse emittors with limited surface size. A reasonable example might be a TV screen. The amount of light received will then correspond to the viewing angle from vertikal. 1 at cos 0, 0.707 at cos 45, or 0 at cos 0, and so on.
Water however is exactly the opposite. That is not diffuse, but most of all, an allmost endless surface. So at an angle 45° reflectivity / absorptivity / emissivity are essentially the same as at 0° from vertical.

The last time I saw you post on this subject you admitted to being ‘a noob’, nothing much changed since apparently. Remote sensing employs Lambertian surfaces in the radiance transfer equations observations, so it is applied in somewhat larger surfaces than TV screens.

Reply to  Erich
June 1, 2017 12:54 pm

Well I was a noob! But I am learning fast, and got the whole subject settled in less than three months. You can read it all here..
https://de.scribd.com/document/348761444/Its-the-Ocean-Stupid
You may subject to the fact that I am a genius, but I can not help you on that. With regard to making you understand what the Lambertian law is about, I did give you the necessary assistance. Obviously you have no clue and are proud over it. So, well, I can lead the horse to the water, but..

Roger
May 29, 2017 9:53 am

I have posted before.
Just talk about “ever changing climate” and the scientific corruption will gradually evaporate.
Do not mention ” climate change” in any other way.
The media are corrupt ( see Martin Armstrong blog)

Noid
May 29, 2017 10:51 am

this is not happening?
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/the-siege-of-miami
This is not happening?
http://www.nichols.edu/departments/glacier/bill.htm
http://e360.yale.edu/features/as_himalayan_glaciers_melt_two_towns_face_the_fallout
This is a NOT new nor a surprise….Brought to you by Shell:

Reading this opinion piece I am struck by sense of cognitive dissonance. The author wants to say climate change is unproven or not provable in the short term and looks to be incorrect anyway. This despite actual manifestations of climate change today and not in some far off lands, right here in the US. What happens when people in coastal communities cannot get 30 year mortgages or insurance?
The implications are of course global and the potential destabilization of populations and governments is not a joke or something for snarky comments. They have real human implications and will lead to the passing of countless souls that have built far more vulnerable livelihoods in places relying on meager resources like water from glacier run-off that will cease to exist. What then? They will simply perish on the land? No, they will become climate refugees akin to the phenomenon we are seeing now out of the middle east and Africa into Europe. How is that going?
Have a heart people. This is not a joke – it is deadly serious. The US military knows this and is making plans. They are not silly people.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Noid
May 29, 2017 2:55 pm

It could be satire.

TA
Reply to  Noid
May 29, 2017 3:27 pm

“This despite actual manifestations of climate change today and not in some far off lands, right here in the US. ”
Please describe the “actual manifestation of climate change today”. I’m assuming you mean human-caused climate change. If not, then never mind.

Noid
Reply to  Noid
May 29, 2017 5:33 pm

Dumb, Stupid, any other qualifiers you want to use in your articulate response.
So do tell, what is your belief for the the warming that is taking place?

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 10:43 am

You do not need a “belief” to understand the climate. Refer to rule #1 of the science methodology.
The Null Hypothesis.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Noid,
The military knows no such thing.
Flag and field grade officers salute and follow orders, or resign in protest and lose pension points.
The US military was ordered by its errant Commander-in-Chief to “combat climate change”, so its four stars followed orders. Now we have a less delusional, non-Socialist CinC, and the new order is to combat North Korea and ISIS rather than “climate change”.

Chimp
Reply to  Chimp
May 29, 2017 6:49 pm

Noid,
That article is a pack of lies.
The DoD isn’t planning to combat “climate change”. It is planning to deal with the consequences of continuing coastal subsidence in the NE US, due to uplift of the Canadian Shield, as it rebounds from being depressed by the weight of ice.
The article perpetrator put in all the references to “climate change”. Urbanization and geology account for whatever flooding problems Norfolk might face, not “climate change”. The rate of seal level rise in VA has fallen recently. It was higher in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries.
Please study the subject rather than regurgitate CACA propaganda.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 29, 2017 6:22 pm

William,
A lot of us are in fact highly intelligent, if not “intellectual”, although there are lots of those, too. The current Defense Secretary Mattis is one. I dare say he has read a lot more books than you have. And thought about them. Schwartzkopf’s IQ was 170, although a less likeable person you’re unlikely ever to meet. I hope.
But, as I note above, under Obama we were ordered to go Green, so we did. Doesn’t mean we liked it.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 10:49 am

philjourdan, the null hypothesis comes from statistical inference, not scientific methodology. For example, Newton did not have one.

Reply to  David Dirkse
May 31, 2017 1:36 pm

When the “science” relies totally on statistical inference, it is rule #1 of the methodology.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:08 am

David,
The null hypothesis and indeed modern statistical analysis were invented by biologist Ronald Fisher in order to create the “Modern Synthesis”, combining Mendelian inheritance with Darwinian evolution, ie natural selection, in much the same way that Newton invented his calculus in order to derive elliptical orbits from his theory of universal gravitation. Thus, it is very much a part of science.
Is it however a necessary part of the scientific method? I would argue yes. Practicing the method means 1) stating a falsifiable hypothesis, 2) testing it by experiment or observation to confirm it or show it false, and 3) being able to repeat this result. Sometimes it’s necessary to use statistics to decide whether your result is significant or not, despite what Rutherford allegedly famously said. But more fundamentally, IMO there is always an implied null hypothesis, if not rigorously stated.
Newton of course asserted that he didn’t make hypotheses. But in fact he did. The null hypothesis for universal gravitation is that it doesn’t exist or that his formula for the action of its force is wrong. The null is not that orbits are circular, but that the attractive force which causes apples to fall isn’t responsible for elliptical orbits and other motions of celestial bodies.
Copernicus’ null hypothesis was Church-approved geocentrism. He couldn’t reject the null, but did produce a testable alternative to it, which was eventually confirmed and now can be directly observed to be valid.
Before Fisher formally formulated the null hypothesis and put statistical analysis on a firm mathematical footing, the concept was implicit in the scientific method. JIMHO.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:18 am

Chimp, the concept of “null hypothesis” did not exist until Fischer, Neyman and Pearson created it. Prior to that the only methodology science had was to confirm or reject a given hypothesis. You can spin it (re-write history) if you like, but you will not find “null hypothesis” in the literature prior to it’s use in statistical inference.

Reply to  David Dirkse
May 31, 2017 1:39 pm

If your argument is that “since it did not exist in Newtons time, it is not valid”, you have a world of surprises coming to you. The whole “science” of Climate today is based upon statistical inference. Your proclamation just wiped out the science. Congratulations.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:26 am

David,
It’s not spin to see the concept as implicit in the scientific method before its naming by Fisher.
Of course it didn’t exist in the literature before Fisher. “Falsificationism” didn’t exist before Popper (or at least the 20th century), yet it too is implicit in the scientific method.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:28 am

Another good example Chimp, of scientific advances that have nothing to do with “null hypothesis.” Kekulé had a day dream that gave him insight into the ring shape of the benzene molecule.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:33 am

Chimp, our thread here is about the null hypothesis, not falsification, please stay on topic.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:40 am

Concepts in the scientific method which weren’t formally named until the 20th century are relevant to the discussion.
Pauling also dreamt the alpha-helix structure. But that’s not relevant.
Where the SM applies is when you go to test your hypothesis, whether you dreamt it or it came to you in the shower. My argument is that the concept of the null is implicit in the SM, just as is falsification, whether formally formulated or not.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 11:49 am

Chimp, if you are going to talk about “implicit” stuff, you are going to have to twist yourself into a pretzel to explain how “intuition” and “lucky guesses” are part of the scientific method. A lot of brilliant insights lacking any connection to hypothesis advanced science. I guess the adage “I’m from Missouri” is a significant part of the scientific method also, right?

Reply to  David Dirkse
May 31, 2017 1:42 pm

“intuition” and “lucky guesses” can formulate an hypothesis, but it still must be tested. We all know how you make gold out of lead. now show us the formula.

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 12:02 pm

David,
Guessing is at the very heart of the scientific method. The guess might prove a profound insight or a total dud. But it’s the first step in the scientific method.
Hard to believe that you’ve never heard, seen or read Feynman’s lectures on the SM:

Newton’s guess was that the same force that caused an apple to fall caused the moon to orbit the earth.

engarpia@gmail.com
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 2:03 pm

philjourdan says: “The whole “science” of Climate today is based upon statistical inference. ”
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Uh, no, Langley didn’t use statistical inference, he used measurements of the reflected light of the Moon. S-Arrhenius then did calculations. No “statistics” were used.

Reply to  engarpia@gmail.com
June 1, 2017 7:20 am

In your attempt at a rebuttal, you either ignored or overlooked a key qualifier.
The word “today”. When was the last time you saw Arrhenius?

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 3:43 pm

Chimp, hindsight is 20/20. Technically, as good as Newton’s “guess” was, it was wrong. Gravity is not a “force” as Einstein’s “guess” showed us. You can use Newton’s laws today, because his “guess” was pretty accurate, but his “guess” was superseded by a better one. The concept of bent space-time is a more accurate description of gravity, but they still use Newton’s laws to launch satellites. Now, Einstein’s hypothesis (guess) did not falsify Newton’s, but replaced it, only because it was a better explanation of reality. To top it all off, nowhere in either of these renown scientists work is there any “null hypothesis.” So, here’s something you ought to do, go back in this thread, and examine philjourdan’s claim: ” rule #1 of the science methodology…….The Null Hypothesis.” See how wrong it is? Rule number 1 is “finding a good answer for the question WHY”

Chimp
Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 3:49 pm

David,
That’s how science works. Kepler improved on Copernicus’ guess by showing that orbits are elliptical.
Einstein’s guess most certainly did falsify Newton’s guess about gravity. Newton thought that his force worked instantly. Einstein showed that gravity works at the speed of light, besides also introducing a new model based upon the curvature of spacetime by mass rather than upon forces.
It’s not hindsight. It’s foresight.

Reply to  Noid
May 31, 2017 3:54 pm

Thank you very much Chimp. Your last post just proves that the “null hypothesis” is not “rule #1”

Reply to  Noid
June 1, 2017 7:29 am

philjourdan,,,, emphasizes the word “today” and ignores the word BASED. You see Philjourdan, the basis of climate science TODAY rests on the work done many years ago. You’d know that if you knew how science functions.

Reply to  David Dirkse
June 1, 2017 10:57 am

Sorry david, that is a whiff and a strike out. Climate science today is not based upon ancient history. The hokey stick is not about what Arrhenius did. Nor are the extrapolations purporting to show Sea Level rising, ice melting, and the planet on fire. It is based upon statistical inference of past trends that are questionable at best.
Note again, you deliberately mislead by omitting words from your weak explanation. I said nothing about science foundation. I said CLIMATE Science. What created it is irrelevant to the work being done today, unless you can find a paper showing that Arrhenius calculations are being recalculated.
Which you cannot.
So stick with your native language. You and Engarpia do not seem to be well versed in English.

Reply to  Noid
June 1, 2017 2:26 pm

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Chimp
May 31, 2017 at 12:02 pm
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What’s interesting in your Feynman video link is that Dr. Feynman starts out describing how to find a new law, then he calls the process a new theory, and finally makes reference to hypothesis. This is sloppy terminology. A hypothesis can lead to either a new theory or a new law. Notice he also says that you can’t prove a theory (or law)–only disprove it. It’s amazing how many people think that a law is a proven theory–which is totally bogus.
Jim

Kozlowski
May 29, 2017 11:48 am

Excellent analysis.
If you want to know the future of CAGW, look no further than the other favorite causes of the left. The boosters of Communism are back, without any shame, to try to fool another generation. Leaving our children to fight a battle that was already won. Same will be endlessly true for CAGW. It will never go away.
I do believe in AGW. However, I do not believe in CAGW. That is a distinction with a big difference. Quite interesting that people are required to form a belief in the first place. The reason is that the science and observations are very subtle and non-obvious. Were AGW or CAGW blatantly obvious, belief in one or the other would not be necessary.
And on the AGW part, surely some of what we see is natural variation. Somewhere between 0% and 100% no doubt. And with all the politicking around the issue, it just serves to obfuscate matters, not clarify. I ‘know’ that with each “update” in data sets, the natural variation component is erased. Cooling the past, warming the present. Clearly, politics trumps science in this field.

TA
Reply to  Kozlowski
May 29, 2017 3:35 pm

“And on the AGW part, surely some of what we see is natural variation.”
There is no evidence that *any* of it is anything other than natural variation. There is nothing unprecedented about today’s temperatures, despite NASA/NOAA/IPCC lies (stop looking at those Hockey Stick charts). Claiming that some certain percentage of the Earth’s atmosphere’s temperature is caused by human-produced CO2 is just a guess. That’s all it is. We shouldn’t assume facts not in evidence.

May 29, 2017 2:23 pm

I never used to give much thought to the manner in which my earthly remains will be dealt with. I mean, I just don’t care and why should I? I’ll be dead after all so it is hardly any concern of mine.
The climate h0ax has dramatically changed this lamentable laissez faire on my part into something akin to panic. I am now saving for a huge and prominent headstone upon which, in words even a climate nitwit could not fail to understand, there will be deeply engraved my absolute disclaimer that none of the madness had anything to do with me and that I fought it vigorously until my final breath.
I would not feel this way if there was a danger of anyone thinking I might have been associated in life with the Third Reich or the Clan or Khmer Rouge or any other unspeakably unpleasant ideological thing. Each of us – with the possible exception of the Pontiff if that’s your bag – is fallible after all but to think of being labelled as a climate alarmist for all eternity is somehow infinitely worse. To be forever lumped under the most stupid idea ever conceived of by the human “mind” is just too awful to contemplate.

Reply to  cephus0
May 29, 2017 4:40 pm

Dont worry about it, some of the most brilliant minds lost a fortune on the Tulip craze. Nobody is going to care about a dead person, at the very best you might give someone a chuckle.

May 29, 2017 2:23 pm

I never used to give much thought to the manner in which my earthly remains will be dealt with. I mean, I just don’t care and why should I? I’ll be dead after all so it is hardly any concern of mine.
The climate h0ax has dramatically changed this lamentable laissez faire on my part into something akin to panic. I am now saving for a huge and prominent headstone upon which, in words even a climate nitwit could not fail to understand, there will be deeply engraved my absolute disclaimer that none of the madness had anything to do with me and that I fought it vigorously until my final breath.
I would not feel this way if there was a danger of anyone thinking I might have been associated in life with the Third Reich or the Clan or Khmer Rouge or any other unspeakably unpleasant ideological thing. Each of us – with the possible exception of the Pontiff if that’s your bag – is fallible after all but to think of being labelled as a climate alarmist for all eternity is somehow infinitely worse. To be forever lumped under the most stupid idea ever conceived of by the human “mind” is just too awful to contemplate.

May 29, 2017 4:37 pm

The Global Warming belief will take a century to disappear, even if we start having a violent change to cold, people will still blame it on CO2. Even today, some people will let their kids die instead of give them a transfusion, and some people believe there were 6 people with machine guns on the grassy knoll.

dadgervais
May 29, 2017 5:38 pm

Re: Mayor of Venus
>> May 28, 2017 at 9:12 pm
>>
>> It is widely accepted…
Widely accepted, perhaps, but true? NOT!
The isothermal assumption is the result of misunderstanding the gas laws. Any planetary atmosphere violates two assumptions necessary for the theoretical formulation of the gas laws.
The gas laws apply to a gas enclosed in a fixed volume; not subject to any external force.
Every molecule of a real atmosphere is subjected to the unending external force of gravity (the particles do not travel in straight lines between collisions, but in parabolic trajectories), and atmospheres can (and do) expand or contract subject to gaining or loosing energy.
Every molecule rising looses kinetic energy; and falling gains kinetic energy. That, in Earths gravitaional field (and taking phase changes of water into account), is sufficient to account for the observed temperature gradient. We must always have (on average) higher temp and pressure at lower altitudes; lower temp and pressure at higher altitudes. At least until the atmosphere cools and contracts sufficiently to lay on the surface in liquid oceans of O2 and N2.
–dadgervais

Mike Sereda
May 29, 2017 6:14 pm

Hear here!

observa
May 29, 2017 6:38 pm

How does it end? By all accounts you wake up one morning shivering and deduce that’s it, we’re headed for an ice age-
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/sydney-wakes-to-coldest-autumn-morning-in-18-years/ar-BBBE3Mp

RoHa
May 29, 2017 8:45 pm

“3) Journalists hyping the potential scare in order to drum up public alarm (and sell newspapers)
4) The public, unable to understand the science, over-reacting and clamoring for political action
5) Politicians, unable to understand the science, over-reacting and responding to public alarm by rushing in ill-considered policies to mitigate the perceived risks”
But that isn’t the way it happened with Global Warming.
It was a minor issue, with only a modicum of journalistic hype. A loony in America had tried to peddle the scare in Congress, but no-one in the real world pays any attention to Congress and its loonies. Public clamour simply did not exist.
Then a politician who was allegedly able to understand the science, Margaret Thatcher, started peddling the idea for her own purposes. Details here.
https://normanpilon.com/2016/06/06/global-warming-how-it-all-began-richard-courtney/
“6) Politicians increasing scientific funding in order to find more evidence in support of the scare in order to confirm the rightness of their policies”
And that certainly is what Thatcher did.