Climate Doomsday draws near: just 37 days to go

the_end[1]Tim Blair writes in his column, Monday, October 27, 2014 about yet another climate prediction by a government scientist that seems sure to fail. You can add it to the list of failed predictions, such as Al Gore’s Arctic ice cap disappearing trick that never happened.


Doomsday draws near:

The planet has just five years to avoid disastrous global warming, says the Federal Government’s chief scientist.

Prof Penny Sackett yesterday urged all Australians to reduce their carbon footprint.

Sackett – now the former chief scientist – issued her five-year warning four years, 10 months and 24 days ago. Meanwhile, previous claims that global warming would cause hotter European winters may now be disregarded, because global warming has decided to make things colder instead:

The risk of severe winters in Europe and northern Asia has been doubled by global warming, according to new research.

The science is unsettled, as usual.

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October 27, 2014 5:04 am

I’m not going to hold my breath, waiting for a climate catastrophe…..LOL!

Reply to  1957chev
October 27, 2014 12:29 pm

Here are some more. The end is night again and again.

Linked sources here
Moscow-Pullman Daily News – 5 July 1989
governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.”
[Noel Brown – New York office of the United Nations Environment Program]
The Vancouver Sun – May 11, 1982
Lack of such action would bring “by the turn of the century, an envi-ronmental catastrophe which will witness devast-tation as complete, as ir-reversible as any nu-clear holocaust.”
[Mostafa Tolba – Executive director of the United Nations Environment Program]
New York Times – November 18, 2007
…..The IPCC chairman, Rajendra Pachauri, an engineer and economist from India, acknowledged the new trajectory. “If there’s no action before 2012, that’s too late,” Pachauri said. “What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment.”…..
Independent – 20 October 2009
Gordon Brown: We have fewer than fifty days to save our planet from catastrophe
……..Copenhagen must be such a time.
There are now fewer than 50 days to set the course of the next 50 years and more. So, as we convene here, we carry great responsibilities, and the world is watching. If we do not reach a deal at this time, let us be in no doubt: once the damage from unchecked emissions growth is done, no retrospective global agreement, in some future period, can undo that choice. By then it will be irretrievably too late….
National Post – 2009?
… In the summer, United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon insisted “we have four months to save the planet.”
Guardian – 3 November 2009
We only have months, not years, to save civilisation from climate change
…….Lester R Brown is president of Earth Policy Institute and author of Plan B 4.0: Mobilizing to Save Civilization.
WWF – 7 December 2009
12 days to save the planet!
…“The world has given a green light for a climate deal. But the commitments made so far won’t keep the world under 2° of warming, This has to change over the next 12 days. …
[WWF-UK’s head of climate change, Keith Allott]
Guardian – 18 January 2009
‘We have only four years left to act on climate change – America has to lead’
Jim Hansen is the ‘grandfather of climate change’ and one of the world’s leading climatologists…..
“We cannot now afford to put off change any longer. We have to get on a new path within this new administration. We have only four years left for Obama to set an example to the rest of the world. America must take the lead.”
The Star – Mar 24 2009
‘We have hours’ to prevent climate disaster
…Recently, Prince Charles has said we have only an estimated 100 months. Unless the world comes together and negotiates a meaningful agreement to rapidly reduce greenhouse gas emissions nine months from now – at the Copenhagen meeting of the United Nations climate conference in December – another 90 months won’t help. We have hours to act to avert a slow-motion tsunami that could destroy civilization as we know it.
Earth has a long time. Humanity does not. We need to act urgently. We no longer have decades; we have hours. We mark that in Earth Hour on Saturday….
[Elizabeth May of Canadian Green Party]

Good news!

Independent – 28 June 2010
Scientists ‘expect climate tipping point’ by 2200
…“We are certainly capable of committing ourselves to an emissions trajectory that make 1,000 ppm in 2200 almost inevitable if we make the wrong decisions over the next 20 years,” Dr Allen said….

Reply to  Jimbo
October 27, 2014 12:38 pm

I meant the end is NIGH….

Reply to  Jimbo
October 27, 2014 1:09 pm

What about the Sheriff?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Jimbo
October 27, 2014 3:52 pm

Remembering is a wonderful thing.
Thanks for reminding us of what the MSM won’t.

michael hart
Reply to  Jimbo
October 27, 2014 5:44 pm

Sorry to lower the tone, but a “climate tipping point” and an “emissions trajectory” sounds like something you would hear on the weather channel…

Will Nelson
Reply to  Jimbo
October 28, 2014 1:05 pm

It’s “nigh” and “da”

Bloke down the pub
October 27, 2014 5:12 am

But from the quote, the claim isn’t that the disastrous warming would occur within five years, just that we had five years in which to stop it happening some time in the future. They’re sneaky like that with their moveable goal posts.

David, UK
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
October 27, 2014 5:27 am


Don Perry
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
October 27, 2014 5:33 am

Then we might as well just relax from here on out, as it is now too late to do anything to avoid the coming disaster. Since the climate-change pseudo-science says that global warming will now bring us colder winters, we can spend the money that has been wasted on “climate change” research on mitigating the coming cooling. We’re going to need more energy resources. Approve the Keystone pipeline, build more coal-fired generating plants, approve drilling leases, build new-generation nuclear plants and get rid of most of the EPA.

Reply to  Don Perry
October 27, 2014 7:05 am

Enjoy a revitalized biosphere, everybody–and yes, CO2 is the “culprit”.
I think I’ll occupy one of the deck chairs and celebrate while the good ship Global Warming Titanic sails gloriously into New York.

Reply to  Bloke down the pub
October 27, 2014 7:27 am

Yes, but in less in a month it will be too late, so why try anymore.

Reply to  Bloke down the pub
October 27, 2014 12:54 pm

So Penny’s position should now be it’s too late to take action to avoid climate calamity. We should hear no more from her.

October 27, 2014 5:17 am

Clearly the prediction was correct. We’ve now reached the point in Global Warming Science (TM) where even the cold has been changed. Now it is a new world where cold is the new hot. Oh, the horrors of Climate Change! We now have to look forward to Hot Snow that is below freezing and a world of scalding hail and ice…

Reply to  E.M.Smith
October 27, 2014 7:28 am

Cue Flash Gordans (Mings)…..”hot hail”….anybody???

Reply to  E.M.Smith
October 27, 2014 2:44 pm

Excellent! If it were not so serious it would be wonderfully funny – but still think that humour and specifically irony has a major part to play in showing up the absurdity of it all?

Reply to  E.M.Smith
October 27, 2014 8:30 pm

I wish George Orwell were still around to write his sequel titled: “2084” where greenies are taken to task like the commies were in “1984.”

Reply to  noaaprogrammer
October 27, 2014 10:56 pm

The Greenies are the Commies, that’s why we call them watermelons.

October 27, 2014 5:20 am

Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
It doesn’t seem to matter how many times they are wrong — its only the message that counts, “Repent the end is near!”

Reply to  Centinel2012
October 27, 2014 7:07 am

That’s why it’s far more religion than science. And it’s a very poor religion at that.

Tom O
Reply to  RockyRoad
October 27, 2014 10:07 am

A “poor religion?” Have you seen the size of the grants to continue the research? I could hardly call it “poor!” I know, you meant quality, I just couldn’t resist.

Reply to  Centinel2012
October 27, 2014 8:29 am

Indeed, “Repent the End is Near”, is the core idea of modern environmentalism.
All else flows from that idea in our new original sin religion: “we have been cast out of Eden because in our Greed and Pride we ate from the Tree of Knowledge. Only by accepting the authority of the environmentally righteous among us can we be saved”.

Ian W
Reply to  TYoke
October 27, 2014 9:32 am

It is more “Pay more taxes, the end is near”……only by paying more taxes and supporting bankers that would otherwise only be rich instead of filthy rich can a climate catastrophe can be avoided. Each time the date for doomsday is passed, the screeching of “Pay more taxes, the end is near” increases in volume.

Reply to  TYoke
October 27, 2014 3:07 pm

Verily i say unto all ye would consult the Oracles of IPiCC ye will adhere to the following instructions when ye who are ignorant consult the revered Oracle of IPiCC.
In conclusion,I am commanded to write unto you, that it is the duty of the PRIESTS to instruct all those who consult the ORACLE, that it behoveth them to be contented with whatever ANSWER, they may through FATE receive; and to follow implicitly, and without reservation, whatever the ORACLE, in its ANSWERS may happen to dictate.
If the instructions of IPiCC [ Hermes ] be not obeyed, what booteth it to enquire?- If the Consulter be herein disobedient to the will of United Nations,[ Osiris ] the evil be upon his own head.
Further O PRIESTS! be warned to make no divination, nor to admit of any gift, sacrifice or consultation, save during the night season, and that too, only while Greenpeace [ Isis ] shineth in the fulness of her beauty.
Neither shall ye give ANSWERS on those days or nights in which either United Nations who ruleth the heavens by day, or the Queen of his love, who ruleth by night, do veil the comeliness and majesty of their countenances from the eyes of mortals, and whilst they do retire from the labors of their celestial course, within the chambers of their sanctuary of rest.
[ h/t The Writing of Balaspis ]

Reply to  TYoke
October 28, 2014 9:47 am

Warmism and religion have strong similarities. Religion is even one of the driving forces behind ‘Skeptical Science’ run by John Cook.

Guardian – 25 August 2010
“Why would a solar physicist embrace the non-rationality of religion?”
John Cook, who runs, says his faith drives him. But what does religion give him that science doesn’t?……But Cook’s second, self-professed, stimulus took me by surprise.
I’m a Christian and find myself strongly challenged by passages in the Bible like Amos 5 and Matthew 25″, he wrote. “… I care about the same things that the God I believe in cares about – the plight of the poor and vulnerable.””
John Cook – Skeptical Science – 3 August 2010
“….my faith and my situation are my own. But hopefully for those curious, you understand more clearly the driving force behind Skeptical Science.”
Guardian – 3 November 2009
Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion
“Tim Nicholson entitled to protection for his beliefs, and his claim over dismissal will now be heard by a tribunal…….In his written judgment, Mr Justice Burton outlined five tests to determine whether a philosophical belief could come under employment regulations on religious discrimination…..• It must be a belief and not an opinion or view based on the present state of information available…..”
BBC – 25 January 2010
Using religious language to fight global warming
“If the case for tackling climate change is backed by science, why do so many green campaigners rely on the language of religion?“……The theologian and environmentalist Martin Palmer is also troubled by the green movement’s reliance on visions of hell as a way of converting people to their cause…..”Now they are playing with some of the most powerful emotional triggers in Western culture. They’ve adopted the language and imagery of a millenarian cult.”
For Palmer, who is a United Nations adviser on climate change and religion,….”
Church of England – 22 February 2012
“Leaders representing most of the UK’s mainstream churches have today called for repentance over the prevailing ‘shrug-culture’ towards climate change.”

parochial old windbag
October 27, 2014 5:23 am

The smug, it burns.

Kelvin Vaughan
October 27, 2014 5:23 am

I’m suffering from Glo ball warming. I stood too close to the fire.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Kelvin Vaughan
October 27, 2014 6:38 am

You mean Glo bull didn’t you?

Reply to  Tom in Florida
October 27, 2014 7:47 am

Glo Bum warming I think 🙂

October 27, 2014 5:28 am

Not quite right with the headline there.
He comment was to say that unless by 2015 we do not reduce our CO2 generation, then warming caused by the rise will be significant in the future. Just because you stop adding to the atmosphere does not mean that the CO2 already there will suddenly disappear. It will continue to add to global heat for many years.
There is no verbatim quote of disaster in climate in 2015 at all in your linked news paper clip. There is simply a headline written by a journalist – not the most reliable source.
There is a better interview in Sceptical Science.

Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter)
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:31 am

Also written by a journalist. And what have you to say about all the past predictions that ‘we only have five more years’ – which go back at least 4 decades?

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:50 am

That 0.28% of CO2 caused by human activity must really build up over the centuries…or should that be millennia?

Mike Bromley the Kurd
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:52 am

Thanks for the comic relief, Sergei. Serious stuff here.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 6:08 am

You must be terribly scared right now then. What does it take for you people! Over half your life there has been no warming. Do you say the same thing about Al Gore’s no ice on the Arctic Ocean, Dr. Viner’s ‘..children won’t know what snow is? (Since they’ve been buried by snow, they’ve switched it to ‘Global warming is going to freeze us to death’). Actually, I’m not being facetious when I ask you- what will it take? I’d like to know.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 27, 2014 6:29 am

Maybe an IQ .

Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 27, 2014 7:53 am

I would only make one correction – when you said “over half your life there has been no warming”…
well, since there has been no warming for 17 years now, I would be willing to bet that there is only 1 year of his life in which he has ever experienced any warming. And maybe that estimate is on the high side.

Steve from Rockwood
Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 27, 2014 10:06 am

There is no end game. But I would wager an ice age.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 3:39 pm

So just like the ‘strange ‘ guys walking around wearing sandwich boards claiming the ‘end is neigh’ you can always claim doom ‘will happy’ unless we repent our eco sins , but never actual give a date when this ‘doom ‘ will come about so you can always claim you ‘will be right ‘ in the future even if you be proved totally wrong time and again.

Richard G
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 7:53 pm

sergeiMK a true CAGW alarmist. We’ll just ignore that every prediction they have evah made in the historical record has been wrong. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. It looks like CAGW alarmists can’t even do that.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 28, 2014 10:09 am

sergeiMK, take a look at these predictions of climate doom. Some of them gave us years (now passed) and even months to days to save the planet from climate catastrophy.
Why did anyone listen to what this good Professor Sackett has to say? She was obviously not very good at her job and no one really took her seriously. A complete and utter failure at her former job who spends too much time looking at Uranus.

23 Feb 2011
Resigning chief scientist never briefed Gillard
……Professor Penny Sackett is resigning halfway through her five-year term due to a combination of “personal and professional reasons”.
While refusing to comment directly on how she viewed her interactions with the Government, she told the hearing she briefed former prime minister Kevin Rudd only once during his tenure and had never briefed Ms Gillard.
“I have not met, in her role as prime minister, Prime Minister Gillard. I have met with prime minister Rudd to give a direct personal briefing once,” she said.
She also confirmed she was not asked to advise Mr Rudd in the lead-up to the Copenhagen climate conference and was not invited to attend…….

Richard G
Reply to  Jimbo
October 29, 2014 10:08 pm

Professor Penny Sackett had briefed former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd only once during his tenure and had never briefed Ms Gillard. Judging by this post I’d say Professor Sackett has been debriefed as in the emperors new clothes. Her reign has been laid bare for all to see.

October 27, 2014 5:29 am

Don’t count your chickens, there’s still time …

Reply to  Ken
October 27, 2014 5:42 am

Do those chickens include a certain Chicken Little (who feared the sky falling)?

October 27, 2014 5:30 am

Seriously. Through all of the years of nonsense and failed predictions “climate science” has become an oxymoron like jumbo shrimp or military intelligence. In other words it’s not even settled whether climate science is science at all. Maybe a better name would be climate augurs.

Martin A
Reply to  LogosWrench
October 27, 2014 4:26 pm

As somebody said, any subject with the word “science” in its title is probably not science.

October 27, 2014 5:30 am

From the SKS piece
“There’s a fundamental concept that I think is ill-understood and that is the relationship between the emissions and the global temperature. I worry about this because there is actually something we can do about it and still we’re not acting quickly enough. It’s my feeling that most people think that the temperature curve looks just like the emissions curve but it’s not that way at all. I believe our emissions will start to decrease, but it’s very important to realise that the temperature will not drop when that happens because the CO2 will not come back down out of the atmosphere. Most of it stays there for a very long period of time, and it continues day after day to contribute to the greenhouse effect.”

Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter)
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:33 am

And yet, year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year, they FAIL to come to any kind of agreement.
You should blame the liberal / socialist governments you believe are going to save you, not the rest of the world.

M Courtney
Reply to  Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter)
October 27, 2014 7:12 am

Actually no form of Government in the world has done anything about this.
Not just “liberal / socialist governments” but neither right-wing dictatorships in Asia or for that matter the planned economy of China or the free-marketeers of Canada or the developing agrarian societies of Sub-Saharan Africa…
If it was only one type of Government who didn’t find AGW to be a priority we could reasonably blame that type of Government. They may be mistaken.
But when everyone comes to the same conclusion?

Reply to  Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter)
October 27, 2014 10:19 am

In the US, the term “Right-Wing Dictatorship” is an oxymoron. Right-Wingers here are mostly anti-Big Government Libertarians.
If the Government of a country owns or controls everything, then it’s a Left-Wing government.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:37 am

LOOOOL – “Most of it stays there for a very long period of time.”
Question for warmies: Why then are the oceans “acidifying” (sic)? Where does this mythical H2CO3 come from? Or is it the SAME carbon?
(While they’re at it, where’s the carbon from the [nuclear] bomb tests?)

Steve Keohane
Reply to  Andrew
October 27, 2014 7:45 am

Reminds me of that silly ditty by Firesign Theater, ” How can you be in two places at once when you’re not anywhere at all…”

Reply to  Andrew
October 27, 2014 8:53 am

Not to mention “I think we’re all Bozos on this bus” and (thinking of the pseudo-sciency CAGW meme) “[It’s] no fun, [it] fell right over.” Now, if we can identify the “He” in “He broke the President!”, we could put this all to rest….

Ferdinand Engelbeen
Reply to  Andrew
October 27, 2014 12:33 pm

Andrew, half of what humans emit remains in the atmosphere (as mass, not the original molecules), the other halve is distributed between plants, surface and deep oceans.
Which doesn’t say that if our emissions stopped, that would sit in the atmosphere for the next thousands of years, as the IPCC thinks: the current half life of the excess CO2 above equilibrium is ~40 years and there are no signs that the deep oceans or vegetation are saturated…
Thus the 110+ ppmv extra would be 55 ppmv after 40 years, 27,5 ppmv after 80 years, etc.

Don Perry
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:43 am

For years the warming crowd sold its position to the public by comparing warming curves with CO2 curves. Now they’re saying that’s not the way it works??? In my experience, and that’s a lot of years, that change in rhetoric is a evidence of an exponential rise in the BS curve.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:45 am

If I remember correctly the Co2 is continually recycled.
That mostly that the main portion only hangs around for 3 or 4 years.
Plants really like it and do well when there is more in the atmosphere.
Still it depends what is meant by a really long time.
For a mouse that is a life time.

Ferdinand Engelbeen
Reply to  Twobob
October 27, 2014 12:41 pm

About 20% of all CO2 in the atmosphere is exchanged over the seasons with other reservoirs (oceans and vegetation). That gives a “residence time” of slightly over 5 years for any individual CO2 molecule, whatever its source.
But that is only exchange: what goes in goes out at approximately the same quantities. It is the difference between ins and outs which makes the gain or loss of CO2 in the atmosphere. And that is a lot less: the current difference is a net loss of ~4.5 (~2 ppmv) CO2/year under the direct pressure of ~230 GtC (~110 ppmv) extra CO2 in the atmosphere. That gives an e-fold time of over 50 years or a half life time of ~40 years.
Two different half lives: the first is about the throughput, the second is about the gain (or loss)…

Sam Hall
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:49 am

Good, we need the high level of CO2. It makes for a greener world.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:52 am

As in the past temperature will come down before CO2, because the CO2 rise is one of the effects of temperature and not the cause.

Mike Bromley the Kurd
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 6:02 am

“There’s a fundamental concept that I think is ill-understood and that is the relationship between the emissions and the global temperature”
Sergei, a “fundamental concept” is something that is thoroughly understood. It is used as the basis of understanding for all corollaries based upon it. To say that a fundamental concept is ill-understood is to say that it cannot, and does not, form the basis of understanding, and therefore is not a concept at all.
In other words, the above quote is typical SkS-promoted double-speak made to sound all shiny and sciencey. This, with “it’s my feeling”, and “I believe”, really add to the confidence-boosting fundamentalism that our speaker possesses. Thanks for sharing!

R Taylor
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 6:13 am

The great news, sergeiMK, is that in 37 days you can stop fretting, because after that nothing you can do can save our putative children, grandchildren, etc., etc. What a great new religion!

Just Steve
Reply to  R Taylor
October 27, 2014 3:21 pm

Remenber, funding depends on there being an emergency. No urgent “need to do something”, no dollars spent to find the something.
It has been said the 4 most dangerous words in the English language are “We must do something”.
The second 4 most dangerous words….”It’s different this time”.

david smith
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 6:43 am

Two things:
1) Skeptical Science? ROFLMAO!
2) If the outstanding chap Jimbo turns up, he can provide us with a load of excellent links to a whole host of busted warmist predictions.
We’ve been told for years by the warmists that we’re all going to fry and it hasn’t happened. Stop drinking the kool-aid and admit that you’ve been duped.

Reply to  david smith
October 27, 2014 4:50 pm

The failed predictions / projections are just too many to list here. Here are a few links to warm you up.
After this bit of laughter you might want to visit the Warm List at

Alan McIntire
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 7:24 am

‘From the SKS piece
“There’s a fundamental concept that I think is ill-understood and that is the relationship between the emissions and the global temperature. ‘
The relationship would be between the logarithm of the ratio of (Atmospheric CO2 now)/(Atmospheric Co2 earlier)
rather than EMISSIONS if the CO2 greenhouse effect were a major factor. That quote implies that what is being measured is the additional waste heat produced by the additional industrial production, agreeing with McKitrick:

Reply to  Alan McIntire
October 27, 2014 7:55 am

Sergei apparently thinks that no one here has ever heard of S(k)S before.
That site has got a well earned reputation, Sergei, and it ain’t a good one.

Reply to  Alan McIntire
October 27, 2014 10:35 am

SergeiMK, Stick around here at WUWT and learn. You will be surprised at how much good news there is here. Your future is very bright, but there are those who want you to think otherwise.
Visit here every day. Your outlook on the climate will improve because there exists no actual evidence that CO2 warms the Earth.
You need not tell your friends that you visit here, Just do.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 7:33 am

“There’s a fundamental concept that I think is ill-understood and that is the relationship between the emissions and the global temperature.

Once they say “global temperature” you might as well stop reading. There is no such thing that has any physical meaning.

Joe Bastardi
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 8:14 am

Can you explain then the non-linkage of temperature to CO2 in the geological time reference? And can you tell me why now, all of a sudden, even at this minute amount compared to the oceans and air, it will suddenly take over?
Please show me the linkage here, because I can’t see it:
While you’re at it, can you tell me what the perfect temperature of the planet is?
Can you tell me what the ideal CO2 level is? For instance, since plants grow best at about 4 times the levels we are at now, are you concerned that reducing CO2 will reduce the temperature and the amount of plant life, perhaps leading to a disaster for man?
And what of the true hockey sticks of the fossil fuel era, the world per capita GDP, and life expectancy?
So many questions… finally this set: do you actually believe the increase of 1 molecule of CO2 for every 10,000 molecules of air, OVER A 100 YEAR PERIOD, is suddenly leading to a disaster? Does it bother you the earth’s increase in temp over the past 200 years is more strongly correlated to the sun and warming events, and to the ocean, whose circulatory system is a product of centuries of feedback?
Just wondering…

Jim Francisco
Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 9:32 am

Well that changes everything!

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 9:46 am

Sergei is not paying attention. It’s all smoke and computer programs (GIGO), except some people are so reverent of those that they may actually believe that “Matrix” was real.

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 27, 2014 5:34 pm

“it’s my FEELING”????

Reply to  sergeiMK
October 28, 2014 10:14 am

sergeiMK, why do you reference this Kid Klimate Kook?
There is a paper covered below regarding your co2 during the start of the Holocene.

Reply to  Jimbo
October 28, 2014 10:23 am

sergeiMK, the greening biosphere demonstrates the magical power of co2.

October 27, 2014 5:31 am

The Guardian is so underhanded. In that link (article published yesterday) they have used an Arctic sea ice graph from NOAA that stops in mid September, nearly six weeks ago. This date just happens to be the date of the minimum when the curve started turning back upwards. But as they have it depicted (the day before the upturn) it is still careering downwards at a steep angle. I just checked Anthony’s sea ice page and sure enough, there is an up-to-date version of the graph that the Guardian could have used. What’s more, this updated version clearly shows the upturn as being mid-September, immediately after the Guardian’s cherry picked date.
I suspect this means that someone at the Guardian was assiduously archiving the NOAA sea ice graphs every day around the minimum and then filed away this depressing-looking one for future use.

Richard G
Reply to  Scute
October 27, 2014 8:20 pm

Just more misdirection by the MSM. Nothing new to see there.

October 27, 2014 5:31 am

Reblogged this on Utopia – you are standing in it! and commented:
Show dictation it is routine for both politicians and climate scientists to say we have only so many years, sometimes days to act or it’s too late to stop runaway climate change.
This became particularly common prior to the Copenhagen Summit. Before that summit, political leaders such as Gordon Brown would say we have only only 50 days to save the planet from runaway climate change.
Those 50 days expired several years ago, so it’s too late now to stop runaway climate change.
Of course, these politicians and climate scientists could be telling deliberate untruths. That is not likely because these same politicians and climate scientists are so quick to question the integrity of their opponents, often with little evidence. You can only be so quick off the mark. If you are very honest in your own dealings.

John L.
October 27, 2014 5:34 am

There isn’t enough Pepto Bismol in the world to cure this “unsettled science”.
Perhaps a big dose of Epicac?

Anarchist Hate Machine
Reply to  John L.
October 27, 2014 5:41 am

I suppose you mean ipecac. You can’t spell ipecac without ipcc.

Reply to  Anarchist Hate Machine
November 1, 2014 12:20 am


Reply to  John L.
October 27, 2014 5:44 am

“Perhaps a big dose of Epicac?”
Maybe MiraLAX is more in line with the GIGO issue?

October 27, 2014 5:35 am

No! I think you misunderstood her prediction.
What Prof Penny Sackett actually was implying,
Is that the Climate change scam would be disclosed.
Now that is a catastrophe for the funding.

jim south london
October 27, 2014 5:49 am

Has anyone ever put a ton of CO2 inside a transparent balloon fired a Laser at it then pointed an infra red Camera to see exactly how much heat it actually traps and at what pressure.
Has anyone actually calculated the exact tonnage of fossil fuel over the years.

Chip Javert
Reply to  jim south london
October 28, 2014 7:29 am

Well, funny you should ask…
A few years ago, Al Gore published a video in which he and a “science guy” tried to do this with a 5 gallon glass jar, infrared lamp and a thermometer. For a number of reasons, this didn’t work, so they resorted to cheating to get the desired results. (Note: as I recall, this was positioned as an instruction video for high school science students, who were encouraged to replicate the experiment).
Gore’s corollary to CAGW theory: just because your experiment failed does not mean you can’t plug in the pre-determined expected results.

Coach Springer
October 27, 2014 5:53 am

I was going to wish out loud that they always include the standard “past performance is no guarantee of future results,” but it’s past non-performance and it is a guarantee that they’re still wrong.

October 27, 2014 6:06 am

The planet has just five years to avoid disastrous global warming, says the Federal Government’s chief scientist.

So … in 37 days, disastrous global warming becomes unavoidable. Why is this called “Climate Doomsday”?
If disastrous global warming becomes unavoidable 37 days from now, then all of those tired leftist policies they’ve been trying to pass by dressing them up as global warming prevention will become unjustified. There is no point in having a policy to avoid that which is unavoidable.
Sounds more like “Freedom from Eco-communism Day” to me.

October 27, 2014 6:13 am

My degree is in science.
This lady was Australia’s Chief Scientist. The scientists in the back rooms were either piss poor OR afraid to speak up.
How much harm have these people done to what was once an honest, ethical pursuit of the truth?

Tom J
October 27, 2014 6:16 am

Actually it’s sooner than everyone thinks. We have just one week and a day to save ourselves from the faux Grecian columns of yore.

October 27, 2014 6:18 am

These ‘catastrophists’ predictions have for some 30 years been proven wrong time after time. Why do they continue? Because the funding for them continues. And there’s a sucker born every minute as the younger people start absorbing the latest propaganda. It’s a long-term war that they are prepared to perpetuate.

Bruce Cobb
October 27, 2014 6:39 am

You are being unfair to Henny Penny. She made that prediction before they knew that atmospheric heat had the ability escape into the deep oceans without so much as a by-your-leave, or of anyone even noticing. Such is the magic of CO2-driven warming, the powers of which they are continually discovering.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
October 27, 2014 9:04 am

Bruce, trust them, they’ve tried it and it really works. They got their climatologists to point an ignited blow-torch at the surface of a very large saucepan filled with freezing cold salty water. About three inches below the surface, they set fire to the middle of the water. The surface remained cold. I would urge all warmists to try the same experiment, this time using kerosene.

Jim Francisco
Reply to  GeeJam
October 27, 2014 9:50 am

No don’t use kerosine, that is a fossel fuel. They should use alcohol, that’s not a fossel fuel or is it?

Reply to  GeeJam
October 27, 2014 10:09 am

Whale oil is NOT a fossil fuel!

Tom Lidbury
Reply to  GeeJam
October 27, 2014 12:04 pm

I don’t think any fossil has ever been used as a fuel. I am just a lawyer but my recollection of grade school science is that fossils are formed when organic matter turns to stone. What we use as fuel I think is more accurately called organic solar batteries.

Philip T. Downman
October 27, 2014 6:39 am

Remember: The only doomsayer who is right, is the last one of them all

M Courtney
Reply to  Philip T. Downman
October 27, 2014 7:22 am

Even then they are wrong if they have cried wolf so often that they are ignored.
False positives are as bad as false negatives.

October 27, 2014 6:46 am

The sin is not the lies and conspiracy to lie from the warmists. For mine, that can prattle on with their belief systems ad nauseum The sin is the public being forced by taxes and grants to pay them and the sheer folly of alternative energy.

David Smith
Reply to  cnxtim
October 27, 2014 11:00 am

This is what I have said all along. I don’t mind their prattling, it’s what it’s costing me that gets me angry.

Reply to  David Smith
October 28, 2014 10:31 am

I would not bother to come to WUWT if it was just the prattling.

Frank K.
October 27, 2014 6:48 am

Climate science is such a great racket. Make predictions that are 5 – 10 years out. That guarantees you employment, money, and prestige. And when your prediction fails, no one remembers, all is forgiven and we’re on to a new set of predictions. You need only 3 or fours sets of these predictions to succeed in your climate career! Three cheers for climate science – the career that keeps on failing giving!!

Tim OBrien
October 27, 2014 6:54 am

Dont worry, they can always come up with a new date…
(Its just like the newspapers; blood on the front page and retract in the back.)

Joel O'Bryan
October 27, 2014 7:12 am

Such short-term predictions like “in 5 years” were bound to easy falsification and embarrassment to the doomsayer’s reputation.
Because of that now obvious problem for the Alarmists, the IPCC is now using 2050 as the date for all things CO2 related climate catastrophes. By then the doomsayers will either be dead or forgotten when the predictions fail to come true.
Using 2050 as a catastrophe date also has the possible advantage of having the PDO and AMO cycles on the upswing.
Make no mistake, the Progressives now see this as a multi-generational battle for control of the people. They are altering the education systems to brainwash our children into accepting whatever fabrications the environmentalists put forward. In the US we see it in Common Core, and even their attempts to indoctrinate Girl Scouts into Climate Alarmism.

October 27, 2014 7:15 am

Typos corrected;
The sin is not the lies and conspiracy to lie from the warmists. For mine, they can prattle on with their belief systems ad nauseum The sin is the public being forced by taxes and grants to pay them and the resultant sheer folly of worthless alternative energy campaigns.

October 27, 2014 7:34 am

Hey, let’s not get premature here and jump the gun. Her prediction still has 40 days in which to be realized.
I mean, give the noodlehead a break, for Christ’s sake. She also may have meant five leap years. Or five Jupiter years.

Richard G
Reply to  Col Mosby
October 27, 2014 8:59 pm

Maybe it was 5 dog years.

October 27, 2014 7:47 am

Reblogged this on Catholic Glasses and commented:
Another one flies over the coo coo’s nest.

Mike Maguire
October 27, 2014 8:00 am

This is consistent with a marketing scheme to sell something quickly to a person or people. That can work well if:
1.They are selling based on an authentic representation of the product and/or
2. Their sales pitch is so convincing, that it causes the person or people they are are targeting, to buy immediately(fall for it)
With CAGW, #2 has been getting all the weight. The strategy has been to exaggerate and scare those that they are selling the idea/product to.
The problem has been 2 fold for them. First, #2 was pretty darn effective and has had good success in many realms but there was enough resistance from those that understood science enough to see that #1 was not being met and that their resources were focused on #2, at any cost that it obstructed the mission of #2 from being fully implemented.
The biggest problem now is that they are on record with exaggerated projections about the future and as the future always unfolds with time it alone determines authenticity.
But all is not lost. #3 has entered the picture.
3. Move the goal posts and create a reality/world in which extreme weather is actually happening all around us right now, just as predicted. Every abnormality in the world offers a new opportunity to provide a climate change causation spin. Now, even the increase of extreme cold is caused by greenhouse gas warming. The spread of Ebola………there is almost nothing that can’t be blamed on climate change.
The truth about CO2?
Sunshine +H2O +CO2 = Sugars/Food +O2

October 27, 2014 8:00 am

And after this prediction fails, don’t forget about the “Only 500 Days Left To Prevent Climate Chaos” that began on May 13, 2014!

Steve R
October 27, 2014 8:11 am

Knowing that its already too late is actually quite a relief. It’s a good thing to be able to scratch an item off one’s “to-do” list without ever having to do anything.

Reply to  Steve R
October 27, 2014 8:17 am

I wonder if there are any left of those cold war nuclear shelters in the suburbs of the USA, complete with stocks of baked beans and coca-cola? Could they be sold at a high price to the true believers?
There MUST be a market for this.

Jason Calley
Reply to  Steve R
October 27, 2014 8:24 am

To quote Ashley Brilliant (yes, that is his real name), “The nicest thing about being too late is that you no longer have to hurry.”

October 27, 2014 8:14 am

Thanks for this timely reminder of the upcomng climate disaster.
We should really have a comprehensive overview of all the predictions of doom made by climate scientists, politicians and media, as a reference page, so that we could confront them with all their failed warnings. As it is now, we see that they are trying to slip away from their responsibilities, hoping to get away by means of the public’s utter exhaustion with climate matters.
We need to have a documentation of their wayward warnings, and this could be a data base which was fed by readers in all countries.

October 27, 2014 8:26 am

Thank you, I so needed a good laugh! Who needs comedy TV when we’ve got climate alarmists?

October 27, 2014 8:32 am

Hence the mass migration to 30 year predictions

October 27, 2014 8:36 am

On December 04, 2009 Olga Galacho of the Australia’s Herald Sun reported that Australian Penny Sackett said the day before,
“The planet has just five years to avoid disastrous global warming, says the Federal Government’s chief scientist. ”

So is the predictor Penny Sackett preparing her scientifically professional apology for her naïve misapplication of reasoning about climate focused science?
What is her ‘belief’ now? Does she insist we now have certain doom in the future based on the past 4 years of fossil fuel use? Or will she now hedge and say we have another 4 years to do something or have certain future doom?
Penny Sackett, where are you now? Please finish the story. Tell us the actual outcome versus the prediction you believed in.

October 27, 2014 8:40 am

We had a parade of potential DOOM this week too!

Steve Thayer
October 27, 2014 8:56 am

There is an article from 2006 in Media Matters that said Al Gore’s quote in Grist magazine from that year of
it is “appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it [global warming] is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are.”
The writer of the article denied this was advocating exaggeration of scientific facts, saying this:
In fact, as the website News Hounds noted, Gore’s use of the term “over-representation” referred to the amount of time spent informing people about the dangers posed by global warming (at the expense of discussing possible solutions to the problem); it did not amount to an endorsement of exaggerating those dangers.
All I can say to that is bullshot!

October 27, 2014 9:19 am

Just 37 days left to PARTY like its (pick a year)

October 27, 2014 9:31 am

The best thing about doomsday predictions is that they all come with a credibility expiration date.

October 27, 2014 9:34 am

Some kind of 37 day advent calendar?

October 27, 2014 9:41 am

Who has more plausible integrity: (a) the author of the Homer Simpson comic; or (b) the politically / publically paid Penny Sackett, the professional scientist who alarmingly predicted doom that cannot be observed?
I will go with the author of the Homer Simpson comic.

John Montville
October 27, 2014 10:48 am

I would like to have a “End of the World” Predictions in Bullet Format so as to demonstrate, The Man – made Climate Change Cult are Soothsayers, doing THEREFORES BASED ON THE AVERAGE CONSCIENCES OF A MODEL BUILT ON FALSE STANDARDS. 1954 – PRESENT

Lloyd Martin Hendaye
October 27, 2014 11:17 am

Bunions-to-barnacles, odds are that competitive private-sector employment would have Mde. Sackett professing “Would you like fries with that?”

Matt G
October 27, 2014 11:49 am

“The risk of severe winters in Europe and northern Asia has been doubled by global warming, according to new research.”
Decades and centuries ago it must have been warmer globally then because there were colder winters. The risk of severe winters occurred more frequently back then in Europe. (Who would have thought, or that’s right the problem is they don’t)

October 27, 2014 12:08 pm

Since the 1960’s I’ve been waiting the “big one” San Andreas earthquake in Southern California that is “going to happen within the next 30 years”, said every few years since 1960.
Still waiting. Predictions are a bitch.

October 27, 2014 12:08 pm

“Children just aren’t going to know what hot weather is.” /sarc

October 27, 2014 12:08 pm

Winter is coming.

October 27, 2014 12:30 pm

The science is always settled – it’s just that the nature of the settlement changes from time to time. It’s like serial monogamists are always faithful to their woman, until they dump them to become faithful to another one.

Man Bearpig
October 27, 2014 12:31 pm

We should shame these people by sending them anniversary cards. Each one a countown to 0 then going back up again.

Steve Hill (from the welfare state of KY)
October 27, 2014 1:01 pm

The end is near, has nothing to do with climate change though….you will know the season.

Reply to  Steve Hill (from the welfare state of KY)
October 27, 2014 1:43 pm

Alright some vengeful God stuff. I thought CAGW was our punishment for daring to be comfortable.

Andrew Russell
October 27, 2014 2:22 pm

The cast of Game of Thrones approve of your message…and so do I!

October 27, 2014 2:40 pm

Well good that it’s over and we can now be certain of warming.
It’s at the same time too bad that here in Germany warming manifests as cooling (as proven by climate scientists global warming models), and I still have to have winter tires.

King of Cool
October 27, 2014 3:38 pm

The deeply worrying part is Professor Sackett was one of seven women chosen by the Office of the Status of Women to act as an ambassador to promote science to secondary school students.
She is also “a vocal champion of evidenced-based decision making” and is currently an Adjunct Professor at the ANU with her own consultancy enterprise providing “strategic foresight”.
Mmmmn, what was that phrase that Tony Curtis quoted in the beginning of The Great Imposter?

Bubba Brown
October 27, 2014 3:54 pm

Dr Suzuki, Harrowsmith Magazine, March/April 1990 edition,
“If we don’t do something in 10 years, the very support systems for civilation will dissapear”
So here we are 24 and a half years later Dr Suzuki, seas ain’t risin’ either good thing y’all didn’t sell off all your waterfront property.

Bill Sticker
October 27, 2014 4:36 pm

Now for the long range forecast.
There’s a broad front of CO2 related catastrophe failures about to sweep down from the Arctic, resulting in a pronounced wane fail of policy across North America and Europe. Like the ones recently experienced in Canada, Russia, China and elsewhere. At the same time we’re expecting an increase in the political temperature in the USA and Europe and an increased brief incidence of climate policy related snow jobs. Rotten tomatoes may well become prevalent as ‘experts’ find themselves ever more publicly pilloried, and roads could become slippery as panicking politicians throw ‘climate scientists’ and activists under buses. Winter tyres are recommended.
A flood of long term sceptical opinion is expected to swamp the mainstream, resulting in a major subsidence of climate related funding. Small grant warnings are to be expected in warming related academia.

High Treason
October 27, 2014 4:38 pm

Only 36 more days and Australia is ahead on time + another hour lost on daylight savings! Not much time to prepare for the Apocalypse. Better build those retaining walls to keep the rising seas at bay. They will be lapping at my door in days, despite being 60 metres above sea level. Better have those emergency food supplies ready too and protection from the searing temperatures. Now where is that really strong umbrella-the sky is falling.

J. Gary Fox
October 27, 2014 7:31 pm

From the comment section of his blog … a Masterpiece!
Tim – A lament and a recommendation:
Only thirty-seven days to go
And that’s not to Christmas my friend
For a lady who’s in the know
Tells us last year’s was the end…
“Gather ye rosebuds while ye may”
If that is your inclination
But time is short and age can gainsay
So let’s all drown in whisky libation.
GNG (Reply)
Mon 27 Oct 14 (04:39pm)

October 27, 2014 7:35 pm

This unexpected “change” in the climate from a heat death spiral of 5 years ago to a cooling trend is firm and absolute confirmation of the theory of “Climate Change”.

October 28, 2014 3:55 am

“Sackett – now the former chief scientist ”
Someone sacked it?

Pamela Gray
October 28, 2014 5:02 am

What a silly world we live in. Don’t like the weather? Blame it on your neighbor’s truck and then run for cover. It’s a wonder watermelons ever walk out their front door out of fear a sunbeam, raindrop, snowflake, or blowing leaf would threaten to strike them down.

Chip Javert
October 28, 2014 7:46 am

Call me a cynic (please!), but I believe even watermelons don’t believe this CO2 crap…it’s simply the tax-scam du jour.

Reply to  Chip Javert
October 28, 2014 9:31 am

They believe it. I asked some. They simply accept anything that is in the science section of their favorite newspaper.
When you ask them what the most important greenhouse gas is though, they smell a trick question, think hard… and think…and think.
Because their favorite newspaper never told them.
It is the pride of the intellectual to believe everything that a science journalist says, and never question it.

Reply to  DirkH
October 29, 2014 1:26 pm

Trouble is… the average science journalist knows nothing about science. They would not embarrass themselves writing the global warming rubbish if they did. Most of them end up writing about science because they are too geeky to understand sport and too left wing even to write anything slightly impartial about politics. They went to university and studied Journalism, NOT science.

October 28, 2014 4:28 pm

Every single person reading this must do their part and send a copy/link to at least one other person.

October 29, 2014 1:22 pm

I have decided that it is time to take those alarmist scientists seriously and finally bow to their scientific superiority and accept that they are right. We should take heed of their predictions from over a decade ago that we were months away from a tipping point, we passed it and it is too late to prevent the massive increase in global warming that must be presenting itself in stealth mode, by sneakily keeping global temperatures flat. It’s to late to stop it, so I am not going to bother trying.
No, you can’t convince me, after all, these are the best scientists in the world and they are all agreed and the science is settled. To suggest that I try to change things is to suggest that those eminent world class scientists are….. wrong!!! That would never do. It is now far to late to make any difference, so I am going to buy an SUV, turn my heating up full and enjoy the coming winter as it will probably be my last before I have to escape to a tropical Arctic island somewhere…. After all the scientists are not wrong…. are they? Or….. if they are, why should we listen to them at all?

November 5, 2014 8:18 pm

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